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Lakes and Locks edition

Previous: >>1704913

Sticky:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mfJknMp1KS2W8lOFB36nl6uJOjpAVIkm/view
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>>1727090
>Locks
Locks are for pussys
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>>1727533
how are they moving without their masts
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narrow boat blocks english canal
0 tonnes of international freight held up
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>>1727533
B-but you can't go uphill in a boat!
REEEEEEEEEeeeeeee

>>1727630
Yeah, freight on the canals is much reduced since Brexit...
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>>1727090
Port Colborne
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>>1727630
Telegraph chatter
>Oi guvna me ol' long shippy done clogged the wa'ah street
>'ave you tried givin it the ol' kick?
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If i’m joining a ship in the welland canal how does it work once I know what lock to go to? Is there a port authority I have to deal with or do I just hop the fence
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hey y'all, I'm almost done with getting my Ordinary Seaman credentials, and am gonna be looking at jobs to apply soon. I know MSC is always available, but what other companies do you guys recommend I look into? I really want to go out to sea as soon as I can :(
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>>1727816
Tugs are hiring OS on the gulf coast and PNW.
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>>1727817
You got a company name or website I could look into? I’m more than willing to move out of my state for a job desu
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>>1727686
Read the sticky idiot
There’s literally a company directory.
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>>1727938
Fuck you look at who you reply to next time
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>>1727957
Tru

>>1727816
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>>1727630
I'm Greek but I always felt that the only people who buy narrowboats are old retired homosexual men
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>>1727090
If you want to add this to the sticky, Greek shipping companies looking for people ashore will usually post their positions on this website:
https://marine.careernet.gr/

For example Enesel (Lemos family) is looking for someone to go to Korea and oversee their newbuilding Afras under construction.
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>>1727938
>pic
you had a leak? why are those booms out in the water
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>>1727577
they employ the rope people to drag the,m along, obviously. have you never wondered what the guys in picrel do? I'll tell you: they drag in the boat with their bare hands. I seriously hope you didn't think a larger ship could actually dock under its own power lol
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>>1727938
Why is the fence even there? You could just like...walk right past it. It even has barbed wire. What the fuck?
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>>1728055
you're fucking retarded, large ships aren't dragged in by shore workers holding the mooring lines
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>>1728056
To stop motorized vehicles. Not everything is about keeping people out you linear intelligence noob
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>>1728095
That doesn't explain the barbed wire. Is a bike going to try to jump the fence?
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>>1728122
Maybe, just maybe, the gate wasn't custom designed just for this specific location??
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>>1728046
I’ll add it to the doc

>>1728052
Idk Whenever we tie up near a coast guard base they always boom the ship for bunkering operations.

>>1728056
The fences at this port are pants on head retarded. They aren’t even the main fence keeping people out, they’re just in the way of fucking everything. I spent like three hours the other day moving a bunch of sections with the forklift so we could get a shoreside crane in.
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I am really torn between departments after getting both deck and engine rating licences. Redpill me on why I should switch to engi studies
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>>1728223
Less chance of being sent on deck during a storm
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>>1728058
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is it true that working onna boat is shit unless you specialize in something niche like DPA ships or LNG's?
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>>1728328
Guy I know is chief eng on a VLCC

Pros: $15k a month
Cons: it's a storage tanker so he didn't set foot on land for 6 months
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>>1728364
>didn’t set foot on land for 6 months
Thats a pro
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>>1728473
I was going to say that as well, Imagine not hearing about women, jews, and niggers for 6 months straight.
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>>1728055
Absolute chad has to catch that rope.
>>1728058
You probably think people just do this to look cool. Gotta stay in shape in your off time.
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Most captains and chief officers I know were promoted to CO at 26-28 years. All the cadets I see are not even 3O/3E at 25... This industry is fucked by the company requirements.
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Hey, I am currently in my last year at my school (Engine Department). I already did a few internships on some commercial vessels, and I was curious to hear your opinion on the work on Fishing vessels. I read both point of view where some would say it is a great thrilling experience, whereas some others would advise me to avoid the fishing industry at all cost because you would feel miserable as hell.
Also, how is the pay compared to a container ship?
Is it true that the sailors are crazy out there?
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>>1728788
idk how it is in the US but to me it sounds crazy that you'd go on a trawler instead of a containership
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>>1728749
Crew Matrix are evil and stupid.
It equiparates time in a grade to competency wich is in most case not true.
You can have 6 months as a chief officer and have done 2 drydocks + all the interting procedures. Or like 2 years with just standard laoding and discharge operations (then proceed to shit yourself at first gas freeing operation).
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how do taxes work in the USA/Canada for seafarers ? countries like UK, India, Singapore allow you to significantly reduce or not pay tax of you spend more than 180 odd days onboard. Salaries for us officers seems the same despite there not being a tax break, which means your net income is much less.
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anyone here ever sailed the great loop?
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>>1728913
Is it possible to sail this route legally?
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MSO here, gotta say, I don't envy anyone who actually does any work on these vessels. Being paid to stare at a radar and wave AKs at retarded fishermen is the best job I've ever had.
Additionally, any experiences you guys wanna share about security dudes aboard?
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>>1728916
yeah, its done all the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Loop
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Do the lakes actually get rough seas/storms? Please no ego posting
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>>1729566
Quite regularly in some places. The mouths of Green Bay on Lake Michigan and Whitefish Bay on Lake Superior are notorious for the number of ships that they've taken.
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>>1729566
I've heard a lot of stories of ships lost in the lakes so it must get bad
Although the ships seem structurally questionable, being such long bois.
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>>1729133
>Additionally, any experiences you guys wanna share about security dudes aboard
I remember the story of some security guys who got arrested in India or Pakistan for illegally entering the country with guns when their ship entered their waters.
Spent years in jail. Not sure if they ever got out.

Imagine spending years in a Pakistani jail as a foreigner.
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>>1728913
I've taken boats up and down the east coast, and taken a boat up the river, but never in one go.
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>>1729801
Yeah that's why we used to just have to dump them off the side back in the day. Mostly can check them in and out off floating armories now; wish they would just make some MARSEC exemption or license for on board storage and use though.
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>>1729848
>floating armouries
Damn, checked them up and found gigachad
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>>1729848
In my cunt companies themself break the law by putting security on board
>be Netherlands, no one except police and military are allowed to own a gun for purposes of puttin caps into asses
>somalia happened
>marines have no where near the capacity to provice security for ships under Dutch flag
>politicians argue endlessly wether to allow companies to protect crew
>companies step forward to press, "were gonna hire PMCs, sue us"
>they never get in trouble with law
>to this day PMCs are hired, politicians still arguing
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>>1729887
Better to pay a relatively small fine in comparison to the cost of having to pay ransom on a hundreds of millions of dollars in value ship and crew; or even a higher cost of losing human life. IMO needs to get their ass in gear and just pass something sweeping.
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>>1729566
There's a reason why the Edmund Fitzgerald went down into a watery grave.
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Reminder that a brand new 3rd mate out ranks a chief engineer with 40 years of experience
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>>1730127
Sure. When you take working hours in consideration it all adds up in the end.
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>>1730146
gottem
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whats a watch like for a deckhand with MSC, is it 12 on 12 off? 16 on 8 off? all i know is 6 hrs isnt enough time to clean up and sleep.
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>>1730341
>6 hours isn't enough to sleep and get clean
lmao ok
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Has anyone here managed to find work without getting the jab? To my knowledge its quite easy for US crew (for now). Wondering if any EU or UK blokes had success as to my knowledge its been made impossible to travel without it and I doubt the company is going to pay for pcr tests getting to the ship and back.
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Today's the day

Press F to pay respects
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>>1730516
Company will make you take PCR tests regardless of vaxxfag status for coming aboard and disembarking; at least for international servicing lines.
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>>1730494
>lmao
lmao it isn't
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>>1730599
>the pride of the American side
F
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I don't care about the Gaymund Fitzgayrald!
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>>1730599
https://youtu.be/PH0K6ojmGZA
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mary time is for fags
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>>1730494
it actually isn't unless your one of those bootlickers who gets off to corporations fucking you and your crew in the arse.
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>>1727090
Not sure where to ask, so I'll ask here. Do you know any books on marine navigation? Maybe some for beginners? Any titles or authors?
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>>1730647
based
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>>1730973
Bowditch is all you need
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>>1730494
Fagt never worked as a decka before
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>>1728328
I’m chief engineer on a tug. I make 120k, get my own room with a desk, don’t actually do much other than turn the engine on and off and do record paperwork. I like the life.

>>1728788
Absolutely not. Alaska fishing fleet is the refuge of the absolute worst people, the boats are totally fucked, you’ll be working your ass off trying to keep their fucked up deck and fish processing equipment going. Avoid it.
>>1728899
The USA makes zero special tax breaks for Mariners. Anyone who says otherwise, claims to be deducting a personal per diem for each day at sea or something; just hasn’t been audited yet.
There are shady accountants who will try to push this on you. Again, you will eventually get audited and fucked. I’ve seent it happen.
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>>1727090
hi /mg/
how do i get hired to work in a container ship?
i have a degree in ME
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>>1732240
Read the sticky dildo.
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>>1732310
>Inb4 muh jewgle
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>>1731955
Yea fisherman are fucking insane. Not a good place for any long term happiness l, although quite a thrill to experience if you get an opportunity IMO
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I'm a guy in his 30's that hasn't worked in several years.

I live near the outer banks. NC

I don't have any major health issues, 5'10" 160lb~ not very muscular, but I can toughen up.

I can swim and I am 100% fearless.

What's the worst job that no one ever wants to do? Could I get away with doing it?
I'm not looking for $$ or easy. I'm just bored, and I want some war stories. I like the beach, and I'm not afraid of the water.
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>>1732839
You might actually be a good candidate for Alaskan fishing, if you really just want adventure and fucked up experiences.

Generally speaking life in the merchant marine is very mundane. It’s definitely different but excitement and adventure are the exception not the rule. We do this for a career because the pay is great and we’re weird and unable to function in normal jobs.
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>>1732841
>We do this for a career because the pay is great and we’re weird and unable to function in normal jobs.
That about sums it up.
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How different are the qmed sample tests from the actual test? If i learn everything on the sample test and memorize answers can i pass the real one?
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>>1732914
Those sample test questions are real questions from the database. But there’s a couple hundred to a thousand questions in the question pool, and your test will be randomly generated from those questions.
The QMED stuff is pretty easy, mostly questions about tools and valves and shit like that.
If you really want to be certain, you can find any number of test prep software for sale which contains all known questions, so you can learn all of them and pass no matter what you get thrown at you.
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>>1732841
Yup there was a guy who categorized merchant seafarers into 3 categories:
>crazy
>idiots
>desperate for money

I was betweend the last two when I was onboard. Then I got a land job.
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>>1732841
>>1733056
Merchant marine life is definitely not for everyone but if you are the type of person that doesn’t mind being dead to the world for half the year and then living the neet life for the other half with tons of money then the career is great.
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>>1732839
You're literally me but alas I live in Canada and there are no ebbin seafarer opportunities for the average schmuck as far as I know.
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>>1732938
The only mariner advancement for the pumpman/mach is the jr engineer one. I have the sample questions but they are mixed in with all the others in general knowledge.
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>>1733268
Nvm theyre tagged
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>>1733109
>dead to the world for half the year and then living the neet life for the other half with tons of money
That's a good way to describe it
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I'll finally get to sail this January :)
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If any of you are a Long Beach pilot I'm sorry my captain was such a jerkoff to you
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Realistically, how many years are you going to sail? I’m thinking 10 would be enough to become captain and then start teaching at an academy or something
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>>1733827
we must capture the enemies mascot at all costs
once their avatar is apprehended by our forces,
enemies moral will be broken, having failed to protect their waifu, they will forever live in shame and dishoner.
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>>1734288
I just got a week on week off position on a harbor tug, I figure I can do this for 20 years and get the SIU pension.

Matey matey wheelhouse cagey all day long you stand and ragey.
Engie comfy engie cool, engie free from nav watch rules.
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>>1734313
Engineers aren’t sailors
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>>1733117
Plenty of maritime companies in Canada, you need to look harder.

https://shippingmatters.ca/about-cos/membership-directory/wpbdp_category/tug-operator/
https://greatlakesmaritimejobs.org/getting-maritime-job/employers-unions-canada/
There’s also a host of companies that operate out of newfundland or however it’s spelled that operate OSV’s and anchor handling tugs that I’m 99% sure require Canadian mariners.

>>1734313
>>1734435
Both of you fags shut up and just agree to hate the steward department because they’re all made of lazy shitlords that can’t be bothered to put out a good meal when that’s literally all their job entails.
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>>1732839
you just need to read the sticky if you want to get into the industry
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Engie engie, my poo won't flushy, get your wrench and make it worky!
Deckie comfy deckie cool, makes the engie smell his stool!
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I just got my qmed endorsement, will any private companies hire me as one or do i have to get some sea time sailing as one first
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I sort of just wanna sail nonstop for twenty years and then uh, retire at 43
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>>1735101
Then die 5 years later of a heart attack having wasted your entire life
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>>1735103
too close to home. my bosun's dad just died after spending his whole life at sea. I hear he rarely asked for leave
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>>1735103
so doing what you love for 20 years is "wasting your entire life"?
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>>1735139
>>1735103
I dont get this idea that you cant have a good time on a ship. Some of us dont have family or good friends to go back to. If you have shit community onboard, you are on the wrong ship
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>>1735150
>>1735139
After 4-5 months at sea it starts to get to you, no matter how good a crew you have
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I have an interview with Curtin Maritime in Long Beach next Thursday, has anyone worked for them before and can give me a review? Also, what should I wear for the interview, I don't want to come dressed all fancy but I'm not gonna wear a shirt and jeans obviously. It's my first I've had that isn't online or over the phone so I'm a bit nervous about the dress code part for the interview
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I've almost finished my application for os deckhand with MSC. I have a few certs for cpr, fire fighting, and the like, can I expect to get hired in the next couple months?
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>>1735314
You will be hired. Might take a while but I’m with MSC right now and currently have a mentally retarded OS on my ship who is incapable of doing anything. Can’t fucking sling up a pallet after two months working here. For the fire drill he ran off without his helmet, gloves, and flash hood. And you don’t have to be physically fit either, this guy can’t lift fifty pounds and is so out of shape that he blows through all his air in fire drills LITERALLY twice as fast as anyone else, even the smokers.
You can even be a burden to the ship and still get hired. This guy is one of the people who always feels sick. So far he’s sworn he’s had Covid, which forced the ship to go gangway up for three days and made us all need to get nosefucked, only to find out this Nicaraguan sperg never had any sickness and just was tired so he faked it. Two weeks later, 8:30 in the morning on an overcast day he swears he has heat stroke and the chief mate needs to take him to urgent care. No heat stroke, not even a hot temperature, and he threw a fit when he found out the urgent care place didn’t take his insurance and that chief mate wouldn’t let him work OT that weekend. And then he gets a bit of sunburn on his arms. Wants the day off because he swears it’s a rash. We’re getting under next week for the first time and I guarantee he’ll be “seasick” in his bed the entire time.
MSC will hire dead bodies if they pass the coast guard physical.
Make sure when you go to training you pass Pistol and Shotgun so you can stand watch
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>>1734709
>engie, my poo won't flushy, get your wrench and make it worky!
>Deckie comfy deckie cool, makes the engie smell his stool!

Underrated post
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>>1735272
Jeans + long sleeve flanel, the modern suit
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Are ferries good for you?
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>>1735200
Truer words have never been spoken

>>1735272
Wear jorts

>>1735329
You an AB?
Come to NOAA I haven’t run into anyone who's nearly that bad yet. Similar pay scale to msc as well.
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>>1735403
AB yeah, gonna stay in MSC because they’re swearing my turd mate promotion is right around the corner. Of course they’ve been saying that for months, but at least the ports are nice
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>"yeah I'm a merchant marine"
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>"I serve in the merchant marines"
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>>1735073
You need RFPEW for offshore or deep
Sea, but you can get work on an inland or coastal tug down on the gulf coast right now as QMED/deckhand
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>>1735272
I got the inside scoop a few months ago from a tug captain I sailed with who’s worked for curtin off and on as both captain and shipyard manager.

They’re undergoing massive expansion recently and desperate for people. They’ve acquired a lot of tug-dredge barge contracts in SoCal.
They’re building boats and buying boats and renovating them at a very fast pace. Possibly too fast, things being pushed into service before they’re ready etc.

There’s absolutely no schedule, they just work you till you’re completely burnt out, lmao if you have a family or shoreside life.

Also they really like hiring young inexperienced people so they can train them up exactly how they want. But this is also usually a cover for “so we can exploit young guys who are desperate for industry experience and think they’re just lucky to be there and will do anything and everything we push on them”

So, lots of work to be had and you’ll probably get hired, but if you already have experience you might be able to do better elsewhere.
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>>1728552
And the rest of us get 6 months without you.
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>>1735677
So which of the three are you?
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>>1735650
I have rfpew too just never sailed as a qmed or with the rfpew
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>>1735851
Ok
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>The concept is based on combining LNG with steam to produce hydrogen and CO2. The hydrogen produced will be used directly in a mix with natural gas in internal combustion engines or in fuel cells, thus eliminating the need for hydrogen to be stored onboard.
>The CO2 will be liquefied using the cryogenic stream of LNG that would be used as fuel anyway, and later disposed ashore for carbon storage.
>Tankers can use the stored CO2 as inert gas during discharge.
Are H2-powered vessels a future or is this another eco meme?
https://www.wartsila.com/media/news/25-11-2021-wartsila-and-rina-partner-with-other-stakeholders-to-deliver-a-viable-hydrogen-fuel-solution-to-meet-imo-2050-target-3013516
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>>1736029
Sounds hypercomplex and I don’t understand how it provides any advantage. Typically using one type of fuel to generate another causes a loss of energy so LNG+steam (from what energy source?) to make hydrogen that you then…supplement with LNG and then burn it…you’re losing energy compared with just burning LNG from the start.

But this is probably being sold with a focus on C02 capture, green nonsense. Wartisla just doing this for PR as huge slow speed Diesel engines get a bad rep for burning bunker oil and being dirty.
But didn’t IMO 2020 mandate the use of #2 diesel and eliminate bunker C? Or did that not actually happen after the deadline?
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>>1736026
What are those crank handles for? Prelubing the cylinders before starting?
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>>1736034
*sipppp*
Well son, that there is a REAL engine.
Yessir, EMD, ElectromocomotiveDeesel. Had them in our submarines back in WW2. Mechanical fuel injection, none of that computer nonsense. Two stroke turbo, makes 3000HP at 900 RPM.
Sissy CAT 3516 can’t do that! No sir.
You don’t even change oil on this tank, you just pour more in every other week.
Yep, only reason we don’t still run these bad boys in everything is due to the got dam liberals and their communist environment laws, saying they’re “dirty” and “non compliant” nonsense.

The red handles are cylinder blow down valves, I open them all up and crank over the engine without fuel prior to starting to make sure the engine is not hydrolocked or otherwise mechanically prevented from turning over.
There is a prelube system but it’s a separate electrical pump that I turn on after opening a valve on the front of the block, and then turn off and close the valve after it’s up and running and good pressure.
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I'm going to get fired on January 4th because I won't get the heart attack injection. I was getting tired of going to sea anyway, this is a bit sooner of a separation than I would have preferred though.
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>>1736087
It's a gay, retarded world and we're just living in it. Industry was already hurting for people as it was...
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>>1736087
Exactly the reason i just took the damn thing. Company i applied to asked me if i got the jab because in a couple months it will be mandatory. I dont like goverments forcing whatever big pharma shits out into people. Can't wait to sail again, though.
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>>1736087
Make them let you go, document everything and be polite the entire time.
I have faith that the mandates will be completely overturned in federal court in 2022. However in the mean time a lot of companies aren’t requiring it, at least in the tug world.
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>>1736094
The only problem is that when you submit to bullying, you end up getting bullied more, not less.
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>>1736090
I think it's a safe bet that my company will have to downsize, sell a boat or two maybe.
>>1736094
This is the worst of it, new guys or men looking for a different company are getting screwed right off the bat and forced to get it. Personally I figure that I've given enough to the company over the years, I'm not going to add bodily autonomy to that list.
>>1736098
I'm doing all that, only way I'll be able to sue is if some outfit does it pro bono because I can't afford years of litigation *and* live a normal life at the same time.
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>>1736087
My country made the 3rd dose mandatory, and it's looking to make you have to take them every 6 months
Fuck everything
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>>1736087
Good, means you really dont need that work.
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Post your galley thanksgiving.
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>>1736137
lmao looks like how mine usually are. We forgot to buy Thanksgiving food this year so we just grilled some chicken
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>>1736112
The risk with this shit is that you can get fucked by not having it in time. Being on a ship for long periods dont exactly help. I dont want to be stranded somewhere if i didnt have my 7th booster because the new ebola-aids-delta mutant just came out
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>>1736137
Mine was better than that at least, no pie though. I didn't take a picture this year because it wasn't impressive like last year's.
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Just started working as a surveyor after 6 years at sea. Take the land job pill, guys, this shit is cash. 32h/week, most of it is looking around at empty ships and shooting the shit with dockworkers and Ukrainian deckies.
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>>1736636
What qualifications did you need for this survey job?
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>>1736137
Lmao do you work on a pleasure craft?
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Looking through old pictures on my phone, reminiscing about all the times I've been seasick and on which boats I puked on.
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>>1736855
Do you take a picture each time?
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>>1736942
Only for the impressive ones.
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>>1736815
I recently switched from Alaska/North Pacific Ocean towing to gulf coast ship assist. That picture is the galley of my current boat, a 50 year old single screw tub.
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>>1735200
>After 4-5 months at sea it starts to get to you

I've been rethinking everything since I got home 2 weeks ago from a 6 months for my second half of cadetship, I really love this job but it got tiring towards the end and the only thing I looked forward to was my girlfriend who in the last few days says she can't deal with me being absent for such long periods and that we don't have anymore time. Now that I'm back she has to move for her own work. So that's pretty much over, next week is probably the last time we'll be spending together and I am just stuck here cursing myself for ever getting into this while at the same time wanting to go back because there is nothing left for me back home. I think I am lost.
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>>1727090
this is a dumb question which is why I won't make a thread about it but whats stopping people from living on a cargo ship outside of the people that already live there?
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>>1737047
stop letting a woman control your life it’s pathetic
cadetship may be long but mate contracts are generally month on/month off
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>>1736087
I never understood why 30 guys floating in a tin can in the middle of ocean needs everyone aboard to be vaccinated, you'll think they''ll be at the least amount of risk of getting it. Especially as others pointed out that the whole shipping industry is fucked in general, and this is adding gasoline to the fire. But it is kinda sad to see human rights die and the Unions aren't doing shit because a few boomers died of virus.
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>>1737112
>What are port authorities
>What are surveyors
>What are agents
>What are shore leaves.
>What are crew changes
>What are transfer flight

>>1737112
>>1736087
Stop posting in a marine general thread and go back to your schizo containment board please.
I'm glad they fired you. You are clearly a danger to your fellow cremembers because you are clearly a cretin.
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>>1737116
How about you go back to your favourite subreddit?
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>>1737116
I'm the one who posted that and I'm actually offshore right now. Are you upset that I'm offshore right now, unvacsedated?
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If you were transported back in time to before you started sailing would you pick this career again?
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>>1737446
Depends on how far back in time. I started in my later 20s after realizing that my skill set was not going to be valuable outside of these types of jobs; harsh conditions far from civilization and gone for long periods of time. So unless I could completely start over again from high school, I still made the best career move available.
And if I had known about maritime academy when I was in high school I would’ve/should’ve gone and graduated and sailed deep sea.

Really this has been a great career and industry for me. Got a license after 4 years of sailing, 6 figure income, and lots of job opportunities. Only downside is being gone from my family but now I’m week on week off doing ship assist with an SIU company, so I’m really not gone at all compared with my previous job and many others.

No regrets.
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>>1735851
Mud tk21? Wtf the biggest osv ive been on had 8 of them. Cleaning and stripping automated. I never got this even on tankers. Pretty noice
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>>1737446
I wish I'd started down this path right away, gone offshore at 22 rather than at 27. Would have had more time to build up savings AND would have seen so many more places, now being at sea just sucks because I can barely get off the boat when we hit the dock and forget about leaving the dockyard at all.
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>>1737200
>>1737119
picrel

>>1737446
It got me a cozy officejob right now, so I kynd off steered it in the right direction, but boy those years were hard at sea. I think I would pick a better engineering degree if I had a chance to go back. Like automation and stuff like that.
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>>1735653
At the moment this is really the closest place to me that is within the maritime industry for work, so I'm just going to have to deal with it. I'm looking into just saving up from this job and moving away from LA, maybe to NC or VA and getting a maritime job there, but thanks for the info
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>New Zealand
>Isolated maritime nation
>Reliant on sea routes
>One (1) NZ-flagged container ship
Name a country with a more embarrassing fleet. I'll wait.
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>>1738489
You will rely on chinese shipping companies and you will be happy.
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>>1738489
Your country isn’t really its own entity and never has been.
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Why are captains always either gigaboomers or late 30s basedboys?
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>>1736137
Glooming. Yaay.
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>>1738553
Because in the USA maritime got closed off for about 25 years to any new entry, as the industry contracted consistently and so every available position was snatched up by boomers who absolutely refuse to retire untill theyre 70+ despite being in the top 10% of income earners for the last several decades.
This meant an entire generation was unable to enter maritime, and it was only in the last decade or so that hiring opened up again in any real amount. As the boomer captains retired en masse the CMA classes of 2005-2015 have moved into their positions, at least on the west coast. Ive sailed with quite a few academy grad captains who are younger than me, (im in my 30s) who got promoted to master after 5 years at most.
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>>1733056
Almost all people at my uni say they're in it for money, but I'm just curious what's it like to live and work at sea, far from civilization.
I guess I'm between the first two.
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>>1738853
fr no cap ong there is adventure and excitement to be had in the merchant marine, and you can have that while making amazing money, but you cant have both adventure, excitement, money, AND chill cool easy lifestyle and job duties.
Pick two: chill cool easy lifestyle and job duties, money, or adventure and excitement

all three preclude normal shoreside relationships and include divorce and estranged children.
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>>1738990
Why is money an exclusive option? I thought sailors have good wages.
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What were the largest sea's you've sailed? Have you crossed the atlantic or pacific?
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>>1739695
I’ve done Miami over to just off the African coast then back to Miami, and in the pacific basically just sailed from Dutch harbor 1200 miles out to a point, and then turned around and went back

So I’ve been across oceans but never to any foreign country yet hahah

At the end of this month though I’m crewchanging to a ship that’ll be out of the country so that’ll be cool
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hey guys, im the same anon that applied to curtin maritime. Thursday I had my interview. Basically they had a bunch of appicants come to the shipyard, and interviewed us one by one. they were fast though, my interview was only 5 minutes and it was basically my experience, what i applied for at the yard, "how do you do under stress? are you ok with long hours? being out to sea in a matter of hours? etc". They hired me on the spot but didn't say when they will contact me to start work, just "you'll hear from us soon".
They were really pushing into the fact that working on ships is hard work which i understand, but it felt almost as if they didnt want any of us to be hired. They're starting us at 15/hr while going through the company "training academy" which has 3 phases. Supposedly we get pay raises after each phase but they didn't specify how much. That's really all i got from the interview, but they are desperate for new employees, most of the applicants I spoke to have had prior experience in their job, just not doing these jobs on ships.
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Who else here is onboard for xmas :(
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Is there any chance of getting a US-based job as a non-citizen? Been sailing 3 years as a first engi on EU-flagged ships and tired of the shit salary
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>>1740288
It can't be that bad.
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>>1740288
Do freelance jobs in banking and finance. Supereasy, often 100% remote and big money in it. Dialy rates of 500+ euros (vat excluded) aren't extraordinary, and if you use a Swiss/Luxemburg satellite company that handles the administrative side you can avoid most of the taxes and get some nice bonuses.
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>>1740300
Chiefs and captains struggle to break $50K a year here. Combined with the taxes making sure I will do this for the rest of my adult life
>>1740319
I only know how to twist big wrench, not shit about finance
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>>1740349
I'll ask the obvious question, but have you considered moving to the US?
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>>1740350
Are you aware as a burgher that with a tourist visa you cannot work in the US?
A working visa requires sponsorship (something drumph made even harder to aquire from what I understand.)

Best chance for anon would be to marry some of you faggots and get a green cardu.
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>>1740357
I'm not a burger, though.
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Why do sailors gossip like a bunch of school girls, talk shit and complain about every single person they’ve ever met in their entire life?
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Did Covid restrictions ruin the marine industry?
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>>1740456
Depends where you are in the world. Nordic/Scandinavian/faro island mariners in the offshore north sea are unaffected by the covid situation. It's not even mandatory to be vaccinated to operate on the norwegian side of the north sea.

However earlier this year I was working on a vessel in Guyana, and before entry into the country a mandatory 2 week quarantine on hotel was required. I guess it was okay, being paid to stay locked in a hotel room. Anyway it seems the less developed a country is, the more paperwork and hoops you have to jump trough.

ALSO, WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THIS CAPTCHA
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>>1740288
What is the pay as a 1st eng. on a "EU flagged" vessel(what flag??")? Where I live a 1st engineer would make around 70k eur/year, and while not spectacular it's alright.

>>1740438
Depends on the sailor I guess. But we spend quite litterly half our time onboard so talking about other people is a common topic to make the time pass. Honestly far better than listening to some idiot who believes he has figured out the answer to every political question ever asked.

>>1739714
Hey anon congrats on getting a job. Seems like "Curtin Maritime" has fleet of tired small boats. It wont be luxurious, and from my experience hours of rest is more of a guideline than a regulation on these small vessels. Regardless, it's a good place to start. At least health and safety won't get in the way. Also recommend reading some safety flashes from IMCA if youre going to be working on a tug or barge. I don't know if people on these vessels are stupid or just want to die, but they sure love getting crushed to death and dying in enclosed spaces.
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>>1737487
We have 6 mud/brine tanks. The numbering starts with 1 for the forepeak and increases as you go further astern on the vessel. The stripping and cleaning is not really that effective. But as long as the charterer is taking the bill for slop delivery we don't mind using the system. A single flushing sequence generates 3-4 m3 slop when cleaning, so it's not too efficient.

>>1737492
Where in the world are you anon?

>>1738489
Honestly, why pay expensive kiwis when filipinos and indians will do the job for very little money.
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>>1737446
If I were transported back in time I would buy bitcoins and live off the interest. Jokes, aside, I'm 30 and can't imagine working a 07:00-15:00 job mondays to fridays. The change I would make would to to go petroleum and get a 2 week on/ 4 week home rotation on a platform in the north sea.

>>1737047
If your girlfriend can't handle that you are away half the year, fuck her. If you are cadet you are about to be mate or "engine person", so then you will make money and actually have an interesting job.
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>>1740549
Always thought that class of tidewater boats was horrific.
At least the MMC887’s and VS480’s look nice.
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>>1740549
Under Finnish flag every company pays basically the same, ~40k€/year for 1st engi. Should I try to get a job in some other EU country like Norway?
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>>1740591
And yes, I know Norway isn't a EU country, my bad
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>>1740593
I guess, Norway has one of the highest wages in Europe.
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>>1740591
Switzerland is richer so logic dictates you should try to join the swiss merchant marine
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>>1728913
fugg. this moment is the only moment i've ever wanted to own a boat.
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>>1740591
If your pay is 40k eur/year as a 1st engineer you absolutely should try to get a job in norway. In the offshore fleet, which is large in norway, there is a lot of faroe (danish) and swedish sailors. The only requirement is that you speak something that will be understood by norwegians.
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>>1740683
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Here's another
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>>1740723
Forget pic
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>>1740723
Sometimes photographs are the only thing we bring home.
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>>1740736
Dam bro
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>>1740681
There are some small french colonial ferry towns on the Illinois.
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The great lakes sucks ass
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>>1740854
B-but muh Gaymund Fitzgayrald
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>>1740736
I know this feel.
Did a year in Alaska and only brought home pics.
Should of at least got a jacket or a hat or something.
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>>1740683
How much does weight distribution matter for that ship?
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>>1736029
bro hydrogen combustion makes a lot of cyanide
those fucking retards need to stop with their green shit
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>>1739528
Pick two you illiterate swine:
Money, adventure, or comfort.

Example; Alaskan fishing: money (hopefully) and adventure, but awful experience.
Or deep sea container ship: Money, comfort, boring as fuck.

If it’s adventurous and comfortable it’s going to be something like yacht crew which mostly pays in sex with the stewards from what I’m told.
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>>1739695
From Seattle to Kwajalein atoll on a tug built in 1968. We went south to SoCal then west to Hawaii and onward to the Marshal islands. Fishing was amazing between SoCal and Hawaii. Did a swim call on the international date line.
Air conditioning machine broke and I had zero parts or tools to fix it, so that was uncomfortable.

Also been up to the Arctic circle and back and to Hawaii few times, all on 120ft tugs.

>>1739714 congratulations swab, welcome to the best worst decision you’ve ever made.
Just do what you’re told, and be self motivated to learn. Life will suck for a while and you may be working with people who take pleasure in washing out young greenhorns. Don’t let them win.
Get that sea time and get licensed ASAP, then you’re basically made and a six figure income is pretty easy to come by.
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>>1740683
Prob not so much as for longer ships but i have a friend whos grain surveyor and he told me that he actualy witnessed 2 barges with hull rupture coz of improper weight distribution.
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I work 8 months a year for 26k€ as third mate. Someone give me a good reason not to lock the bridge doors and set course for the ice walls at full ramming speed.
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>It’s a chief mate is a raging bullying asshole episode
I hate these ones
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>>1741320
Thanks man, I was in the navy so I kind of already know what I've gotten myself into and am prepared somewhat, but I know where I will be working is going to be different than being on a carrier. I'm hoping to get my MMC and other certs as soon as I can
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What's it take to be an engineer on a large container ship? The shore leave sounds nice
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>>1742034
If you want shore leave stay away from containers. Last contract I was on had the longest port stay 24 hours. Most of the time was 6-12 hours depending on the port but it gets very tiresome.
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must've been great all those centuries ago as a sailor (when it went right)
adventuring across unknown, uncharted seas, happening upon never before seen lands, stealings brown gfs (latin america) etc.
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>>1742112
Dont forget dying of scurvy at age 19, pirate attacks, running out of supplies in the doldrums, 50/50 shot at shipwreck because nothing has been charted. We aint got it that bad, you can still breed latinas today
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Where did you guys get your STCW?
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>>1742112
you wouldn't have lasted a day, dumb frogposter
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>>1727090
I hate the application process so much especially if there's a time constraint. How do you guys do it? Just turn your brain off and keep calling/writing companies?
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>>1742034
Be an engineer on passenger ships instead. Plenty pussy, shore leave and generally a good life.
Note, passenger ships engines are shit and tend to explode/catch fire often.
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>>1742112
Fuck that, I’ll take my comfy cabin with Wi-Fi and AC.
My boat goes to 3rd world shitholes and stays for days/weeks at at a time anyway

>>1742120
MPT in Fort Lauderdale.
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Today is my last day at sea, probably forever. I'm going to miss it bros.
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mfw work cuts my off time short so I can work Christmas and not finish the sea school courses I was registered for
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>>1742540
Are you forced to quit because of the "vaccine"?
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>>1728043
Do homosexuals ever really retire?
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>>1742572
Yes, but I was also looking for a shore job long before this and happened to find one within the same week that my company denied all exemptions. So this day was coming soon anyway.
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How tall is the average mariner? Can I work on a ship as a 5'8 manlet?
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>>1742758
The average height (statistically) would be that of a pinoy. Also small dudes are useful to stuff into small spaces so youre good lad
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>>1742758
You won't hit your head going through sea doors, your gtg
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why is the galley staff always women and black people
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>always wanted to work at sea
>seizure at 17
>diagnosed with epilepsy
>on medication ever since
Is there any employer in europe that doesn't care about medical fitness? Everywhere I look they need these medical certificates and I get it but I haven't had a seizure in years and it's just not fair
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>>1742982
Better luck next time.
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>>1727090
Panama canal
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>>1727090
The Falkirk wheel
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>>1727090
Loch Katrine
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>>1727090
The Caledonian Canal
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>>1727090
Taunton
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>>1727090
Loch Lomond
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Anybody know of a school where I can take Apprentice Mate (Steersman) online/remote?
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>>1742982
>Is there any employer in europe that doesn't care about medical fitness

I think your only chance is working in black as a yacht crew. I dont recommend it.
Also you didnt have seizures because you are taking meds. If you loose your pills lets say at sea how you are going to retrive some new ones?
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>>1742963
>they dont have a full southern italian galley staff.

Sorry YNGMI
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>>1742175
>the virgin modern sailor furiously masturbating to tranny porn in his cabin cagey even in port.
>the chad old time sailor getting venereal disease in african ports and singhing and getting drunk happily with his cabin mates.
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How much time off do you guys generally get? I'm in my late 20s looking to make a career change. My 9 to 5 pays well but doesn't really let me have much room for time off just like one vacation week a year.

Something that requires me to work months on end with some months off sounds appealing but there isn't many jobs that are like that. Wouldn't mind something that requires travel I've been stuck in the same city my whole life anyway, got lot of money saved up but no time to use it to visit places I've never been to.
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>>1743247
Try get into offshore first. Better work periods and sometime even better money. Now wind turbines is the sector to look at for future developments.
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>>1743334
Yeah that 28 days on then 28 days off with offshore sounds pretty good to. I'll start looking into offshore but with the way things are headed there will be lot less jobs in oil.
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>>1743474
Oil
Gas
Windfarms
Pipe lay
Cable lay
Dredging
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My uncle said that in the past it was easy for deckies and engies to change their departments, or something like that.
Why did they change that?
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>>1743790
Its STCW fault.
Also STCW is just a conspiracy to allow third world crew to be seen as good as western nations crews.

Also fuck shadow flags. A ship flag should be registered were the REAL owner decisions are taken, not a forsaken PO box or bogus office.
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It has been six months since I disembarked from my last ship. I passed my new résumé 2 months ago and no one called me back yet. In summer there's always shortage in officer ranks but in the winter season it's quite opposite in addition recent hyperinflation of Lira worsen the situation, no one wants to leave ships I guess. I renewed my passport along the way it's in the mail should reach me next week so I will contact with more companies this time with crystal clear intention to get onboard. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>1743901
Good luck foreign anon. What country do you live in, just out of curiosity? Pic unrelated.
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>>1743933
Thank you I'm from Turkey.

Also are there anyone who does side business along with seafaring?
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>>1743116
based
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All that wagecuckery was worth it. After 3 months sailing in MSC as an AB, I am going to be a third mate. My future is secured at the cost of my shoretime becoming nonexistent.
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>>1743115
There's like a 90% chance I don't even need them but they only make me moderately depressed so it's worth not risking that 10% all the time and being able to smoke and drink, if i stopped smoking and drinking i'd probably be fine without meds
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>>1744058
And that will be your life until you gain some exp as a ch mate or captain and you will be in the position to chose if you accept contracts or not.
Implying you are not a retard that blows all his money and has loans
In that case that will be your whole life
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Are there any european companies which offer good benefits and haven't been completely overrun by pajeets, flips and slavs? I understand I'm only delaying the inevitable but oh well.
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>>1744268
Any that have their ships flagged in eu countries ( not fiscal paradise like malta, Cyprus etc) as thei are required by law to give benefits that are required for shore companies.
Pension
Medical insurance for you and your family

Even paid leave - worked for a french company that was required to pay 30% of your stay ob when you were home. So for every 3 months spent ob you got 1 paid for staying home, the catch is that you must be french for this to apply to you and i believe be part of the sailors union
In italian flagged vessels you can file for medical leave and can get up to 70% of your salary for as long you have medical leave but no more than 2 or 3 months at a time. If after 2 3 months you go back ob you could file again after you get home again. The catch is if you get more than 75k € per year they tax the shit out of you. This what i know from the italian guys that I've sailed with, don't know the exact details
German and belgium flagged vsls - the company pays pension and taxes for you. If you sail for a short time and don't want to benefit from pension in said country you can file for part of those money back. I got like 1200€ back for 3,5 months spent on a belgium flagged vsl

Sailed on uk flagged vsls and didnt have any benefits, uk was in eu at that time

But you must look out for agreements between countries.
For example i know that norway had an agreement with a couple of eu countries where the crew is forced to pay taxes and shit in norway
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>>1743755
Thanks for the suggestions anon.
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Bros
I got the raise
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>>1744443
Good job anon. Tbh with the labor shortage and inflation we should all be asking for and receiving raises.
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>>1743933
>menthol
Where are my unfiltered rollup chads at?
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>>1744443
Nice, you got a good %?
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I ctrl-f'd for vaccine. I guess the odds of my exemption against the gene therapy getting accepted anywhere are shitpoor. Are inland companies hiring unvaxxed?
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>>1744477
Double digits on a net basis
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>>1744664
Nice lah
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>>1736026
Hnnnng wish I had an emd to work on. Never had an issue with an old 2 stroker
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>>1744471
Those old Dutch tugs were fantastic looking boats.
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>>1744624
>muh gene therapy turning the frogs gay
lmoa. literally not how it works. stop getting your worldview from conspiratard boomers on facebook.
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>>1744624
>Are inland companies hiring unvaxxed?
Yeah my niggga, mine's hiring all positions and is positively desperate for ABs. I'm sure others are the same.

>>1744857
>believing in the fake and gay virus
You're just simply not going to make it
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>>1743474
Oil is primed to explode on the next decade long super cycle. What commie green bullshit nonsense have you been slurping? With oil just flirting with $80 in October, Gulf of Mexico offshore maritime has started poaching guys from inland/coastal in preparation for the post covid energy demand boom and supply shortfall that literally everyone with a functional (non libtard) brain knows is coming.

>>1743838
STCW also makes it very expensive to hawsepipe your way up from small vessels to large ships. It’s a fucking racket.

>>1744068
Find a medical center who can do your mariner physical who doesn’t have access to your digital medical records, lie about not having any medical problems. Get medical card. Get job. This is how it works in the USA. Lotta guys keep separate medical providers for this purpose.
>>1744857
Lmao at anyone who was either scared of the coof or allowed themselves to be coerced into taking the experimental clot shot.
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>>1745126
I've said it before but i'm just glad I got the jab so I can do my last apprenticeship. Only now I'm worried that I can't get a booster before it's mandatory worldwide.

Also merry fucking christmas, especially to the lads with an actual dry ship
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I may have the opportunity to work on a tug on the Mississippi shipping out of Iowa. The only experience I have is two years working on seaweed and construction barges in Lake Country (inland lakes, not Great). Thoughts?
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Christmas table at colleague's ship. His company sure does know how to hire proper Ryback.
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>>1745126
>STCW also makes it very expensive to hawsepipe your way up from small vessels to large ships. It’s a fucking racket.

It’s by no means prohibitively expensive if you’re able to just not buy dumb shit while you’re on your hitch.

You can start on a 100 ton boat with just a TWIC, spend like $1500 to get your basic STCW, keep working on the 100 ton boat and save up like $3500 for AB classes.
From there get a job on a larger better paying boat/company and start working on anything from 500t mate or 3/m depending on tonnage.
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>>1745280
Tugfren, I’m not talking about RFPNW/RFPEW. You’re an AB with RFPNW sailing for NOAA. Do you have OICNW? Did you get it without NOAA programs designed to train NOAA Mariners?

STCW III/ RFPEW requires $25,000 worth of classes and a couple of months in a classroom, and these classes aren’t available in a timeframe where they can all be done in one cohesive block of time off the boat. You gotta schedule them out every couple months.

Then you also face this catch 22 where in order to get STCW OICEW you need to have sailed under an STCW engineer, so if you’re the only engineer on something like a coastwise tug, you’re screwed. “Just take a single hitch job as QMED on a bigger vessel to get your STCW sea time” isn’t practical when you’re supporting a family and mortgage back home.

I have Chief engineer limited 1600 tons unlimited horsepower but I’m not seeing how I can get OICEW without these damn classes and specific STCW sea time. There used to be a way to demonstrate competence in front of an STCW evaluator but the language in the CFR now seems to require the classes. I’ve sat down and gone over it with an REC commander or whatever the title is and he was surprised and all he could say was “send a packet to the NMC and see what they say”.

I’ve had a 30 year master and SIU rep tell me something similar, basically go sea lawyer on them and prove my demonstrated competence via my decade of sea time and duties I’ve filled, and hit them with some shit about impediment of my livelihood etc, he claims they fold under that type of legalese pretty often.

It’s not a simple thing, brüder.
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>>1745282
CORRECTION: OICEW requires the expensive classes, not RFEW.
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>>1744780
These fish-freight vessels are good looking. Is that in BC or Norway?
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>>1745282
Jesus Christ, why is it so complicated
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>>1745290
To stop white people from working on ships.
Makes it easyer to automate them lather on with the excuse that crews are useless or just legal scapegoats.
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>>1745257
Yeah, we’re Americans.
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I'm taking my first STCW course soon. It's an extra $100 for PDSD, is that useful?
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>>1745525
Yes get it. It’s a common requirement for STCW regulated vessels. Eventually you want VSO if you’re getting licensed but PDSD will cover you as a rating.

Always get any and all certifications that you can. You never know if you’ll come across a job that requires them and it’s usually too late to get them by the time you see the job listed.
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>>1745531
Thanks, I went for it
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Hey lads, anyone having trouble with the shot should open up instagram and search for the hashtag #vaxxed or anything along the sorts and see if you cannot find some funny numbers in the pictures!
If you're concerned about your paper not being the correct thickness all you need to do is laminate it :^)
I'll be keeping my job along with a bonus for having it! Teehee
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>>1745282
Now that I’m thinking back about it I suppose for people who aren’t coming to the industry as their first career might have a harder time doing upgrades and stuff.

I started in this industry when I was pretty young (19) and more or less haven’t had a particularly hard time getting endorsements and classes done when I needed to since I didn’t have a wife/kids/house/large bills to worry about


>tfw 77 day hitch starts tomorrow and I feel nothing
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I saw photos of a 5 year old Newcastlemax today and she looks like a scrap candidate
She's due for her first ever special survey soon, and she's in worse condition than most ships at Alang right now.

Chinese built, Chinese owned, Chinese managed, most likely under Chinese CoA.

Disgusting.
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>>1743247
I recently cemented myself on a crew working 2 weeks off in the harbor. I crew up less than an hour’s drive from home. Cell service the entire time makes it easier on the home life. After starting on skiffs, I went on work oceans and near coastal, 1-2 month hitches, and I don’t ever want to go back to it. I’m much happier being local.
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>mates gets his wife’s son a job as a deckhand
>his only previous job was minimum wage at Subway
>18 years old fresh out of high school, and now making $350, as much as ABs with 10 years experience
>terrible attitude, terrible cook, terrible janitor, and no work ethic to improve
>excessively swears constantly
>”it’s the best fucking goddamn shit” as I once heard
>earned the nickname “Rerack Zack” because he can’t set an alarm, or get out of bed
>chased off every boat in the last year, until he ended up on his step daddy’s boat, since they won’t fire him
>the kid bought a brand new truck, paying $700 a month, and still lives at home
What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?
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>>1745902
Why can't I benefit from nepotism like that?
Though at 18 I was probably an even bigger runt and would have ended up shoved overboard in the dead of night.
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>>1745902
>What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?
Their Gen X/younger end Baby Boomer parents raised them to be lazy shits. I know how you feel, I'm 28 and not to much older than zoomers, ones I've worked with half ass everything while a small few actually care about how they do a job. Dating them can be a nightmare not a single early 20s Gen Z woman I've been with can cook, I've taught my current one how to cook and for some reason her Gen X mom never taught her how to even scramble eggs.

>>1745905
>Though at 18 I was probably an even bigger runt and would have ended up shoved overboard in the dead of night.
Yeah to be honest I was a piece of shit at 18 to but I still put effort into work I mainly just had an attitude problem.
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>>1745902
>now making $350

Three hundred and fifty dollars a day? A week? Please don't say day.
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>>1745918
What Maritime gig pays $350 a week? Most likely a day, if it's a week sounds like it's with some 2nd world Maritime company.
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>>1745917
I’m 27 now, and thankfully been with my old lady for 5 years now, and got a house with her.
I couldn’t fathom dating anyone 8 years younger.

>>1745918
$350/day of course. West coast, not those Mississippi slave wages, $180/day as a deckhand. Unless it’s changed?

When I got stuck moving back south at 18, I was trying to get on a boat, or go offshore. I opted to move across the country than work for those shit wages the Mississippi and gulf pays for deckhands. I made more with overtime, at the factories, and was able to go to community college.
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Shoreside company willing to pay for in person training, what are some good engineer classes to take? I'm in mechanical design but have my 3rd A/E. Anyone do the MEBA school and if so how was it?
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>>1746293
Is there any option that relates to LNG dual fuel propulsion, open-loop scrubbers or bwts retrofits?
Those are all hot
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>>1746308
It's called sxuppers sweetie looke it up
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Happy New Year!
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>>1727636
The canals haven't carried freight in years. "Brexit" is a piss poor excuse.
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Is my only 2 major options for entering the industry through either MSC or SIU?
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Do you guys get stillness illness for a few days after disembarking a ship?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDXNSWJLuo
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>>1747012
https://youtu.be/ZP2jYXPgJc4
My personal fav
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>>1730647
>>1731140
>Being so envious of America, you turn into miserable subhuman who disrespect sailors lost at sea
Writhe in pain and jealousy, turd-world subhuman
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>>1747151
>at sea
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>>1729566
Don't know if true, but I've heard many times that storms on Lake Erie are dangerous because it's so shallow that it allows things to get scary very quickly.
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What are you supposed to do when the previous 3rd mate was super disorganized and all the paperwork is impossible to complete now?
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>>1748045
Show the captain
Start doing it right from the time you came ob.
Do the minimum required from his contract so things go smoothly ob if said docs make your life easier during a vetting or whatever
If you take it personal or he made that shit on purpose not coz he s a retard and you don't want to relieve him again push the captain to send an email to the company so he gets kicked out
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Would you recommend working on a gas carrier vs an oil tanker as a deck officer? Im still at maritime school and try to get every certificate i can get my hands on, already got Basic Training for Oil and Chemical, wondering if a job on a gas tanker wouldn't be comfier. Honestly Im lost at what type of vessel to strive for, any general advice would be appreciated.
t. 3rd world eastern european about to sell his life for below average wage in America
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>Tfw show up to Cape Verde to join the boat for a 75 day hitch and catch the coof
Now I’m stuck in a hotel for the next five days minimum before I even have a hope of getting to the ship, if it’s even still here by then.
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>>1748172
Gas tanker might be: LNG, LPG, Ammonia carrier, Chemical (Ethilene).
I liked working on LPG compressors are fun. Ended up on LNG for career choice.

Avoid Oil tankers, they smell like shit due to Inert Gas and H2S.
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>>1748175
So wtf are you anyways? AB or mate? how much are you making every two weeks after taxes
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>>1748178
Thanks! I think I could deal with the smell if it was the biggest disadvantage. I know work on oil tankers can be very stressful due to cargo operation complexity though, are LPG/LNG vessels better in terms of work environment?
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>>1742175
What type of ship do you work on?
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Anyone ever retired a ship in one of those shipbreaking places?
Must be so cool running a 200 000 tons ship aground...
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>>1748182
AB, working on 3m classes in my time off.
If I work 12hr days it’s usually around $3200 every two weeks after taxes. Give or take $100 or so


>>1748223
Been on research vessels for the last two years, OSV’s before that, and started on tugs.
Still go back to tugs from time to time. Pic related
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>>1748267
>Post paystub.
This is my most recent, one week and some OT, due to the holidays at the end of last month.

I need to get licensed. I usually make around $5k every 2 weeks, after taxes.
Not bad for an OS running as engineer, with no maritime certs under my belt.

Getting pretty close on my seatime to just go for the DDE4000 and get my AB, and skip the QMED, and save myself $3k.

I don’t understand the commonality of spending problems with mariners. I know a licensed engineer who works 243 total days out of the year, $150k annually before taxes. He just had to take a $40k hit on a truck he couldn’t afford anymore. He near annually kept rolling over debt from some monster truck mall crawler to the next one.
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wtf im with one of the largest container shippers in the world as 3/O and only make 3200EUR/month. It would seem the term "europoor" really applies.
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>>1748413
On the other hand, you earn more than poos.
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>>1748413
What's 3/O? Third officer?
What would you make doing the same job for an american company?
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>>1748488
Close to $1000/day in some cases
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>>1748488
3rd mates make usually around 10k per month
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>>1748524
>>1748547
To America it goes then. What are some drawbacks with American vessels?
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How common are filippinos and other third/seccond worlders on western owned ships?
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>>1745257
Where's the main course?
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>>1748524
>>1748547
I know USA has the highest maritime wages but I find this hard to believe. Got any active listings to prove it?
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>>1748596
Because many western owners have their vessels are under flags of convenience, their crews are full of sea Mexicans.
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Yeah they are very common. I am surprised though since they employ them as officers too.
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>>1748858
>>1748858
>>1748858
NEW THREAD
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>>1748858
>>1748858
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>>1735616
>>1735626
kill yourself wojaknigger



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