In your honest opinion, what's the dumbest decision a pilot/crew made that caused a deadly crash?>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90>be 1982>DC is in the process of being hit by a historic blizzard, winter weather infrastructure is ill-prepared to keep up with the snowfall>be the captain of a 737-222 waiting in an unusually long line for takeoff>notice your wings are completely covered in snow>instead of turning back to request deice, decide to exploit the jet exhaust of the DC-9 in front of you to clean your wings off so you don't lose your spot in line>its becomes your turn to take off>improvised deicing procedure leaves your trailing edges caked in ice and the engine inlet sensors iced over giving faulty instrument readings>end up trying (and failing miserably) to take off with iced over wings at ~70% power, only tasting flight briefly before hitting an expressway and crashing in the Potomac river>74 people on the plane and 4 people on the bridge die
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502You literally cannot make this shit up.
you gotta respect the initiative and resourcefulness though
>>1718306>>1718397>See also: Aeroflot Flight 593, a flight where minors were allowed to fly the aircraftHow the fuck have the Russians, as a race, managed to survive for this long?
>>1718474Vodka keeps them alive
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Staten_Island_Ferry_crash>2003>staten island ferry captian literally OD's at the helm of a 2000+ ton vessel in a major metropolitan harbor>misses the terminal completely an crashes into a concrete pier that slices open the side of the vessel>11 people die, one of which happened to be a survivor of the 9/11 attacks 2 years earlier (I shit you not)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amagasaki_derailment >be Japanese train engineer >so terrified of being reprimanded for missing a platform by a few meters that you derail a train killing yourself and 106 others Hows that precise train system working out for ya
>>1717894As a railfan I simply have to state the Eschede train disaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschede_derailment)> superior German engineers use shitty wheel design> superior German passenger fails to see a big red handle marked "emergency brake" in his compartment> superior German conductor follows a superior German rulebook stating that stopping the train is only the last resortUntil all superior German procedures are followed, the deadliest high speed rail crash is produced...
>>1717894https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Farnborough_Airshow_crashMy dad was at this as a child.>a prototype de Havilland DH.110 jet fighter crashed during an aerial display at the Farnborough Airshow in Hampshire, England. The jet disintegrated mid-air during an aerobatic manoeuvre, causing the death of pilot John Derry and onboard flight test observer Anthony Richards. Debris from the aircraft fell onto a crowd of spectators, killing 29 people and injuring 60
>>1717894>be train dispatcher>at a station on a double tracked main line>use new automatic dispatcher system that sets the train path automatically>be old and frustrated>want to quit the job>Christmas rush hour comes>high traffic>passenger train arrives>cannot set the exit path, machine doesn't allow it>override it, set it manually and give the call sign
>>1718825>be train crew on passenger express train>its and old steam engine>arrive at station, shouldn't have to stop>no exit>finally recieve call sign>disobey rules and accelerate to 40 km/h instead of 15 (max allowed at callsign)>get on the wrong side of the double tracks>suddenly a wild freight train appears coming your way>collide, killing 43 people
>>1717894>discover cool youtube channel about air disasters>wants to know what software the guy uses for his videos>looks at his twitter>guy is a trans womanEvery single time.
>>1718848What's the name of the channel?
>>1718624I remember someone dubbing eurobeat onto this kek
>>1718860crotch tunnel made of colon disasters
>>1719005>>1718624To be fair, the train's passengers were probably glad to be dead rather than late themselves.
For me, this was the dumbest crash ever.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502>be Russian>drink vodka>I mean, a LOT of vodka>make a bet to land without seeing fucking anything>get multiple warnings about descending too fast>ignore them>smash the fucking plane into the fucking groundSeriously...why?
>>1718616BING BONG>>1719045Yeah.... you didn't read the thread.
>>1718476He said dumbest, not based.
>>1718476>>1719379Lets be honest, the Tenerife Air Disaster was 100% the fault of the air traffic control tower.
>>17178942016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash. Happened down this road (taken about a week after an incident). Note the high-voltage lines.>pilot was taken a shitload of prescription drugs for ADHD and depression (Ritalin, oxycodone, Valium, cyclobenzaprine [muscle relaxant], and like three others)>cloudy and foggy, most other pilots cancelled flights that day>no one was employed to follow the balloon's path, no one had any pictures of the balloon in flight>balloon descends on a bunch of power lines>very rural, only a few pops were heard, so all the authorities had to go on was a "possible vehicular accident">emergency services arrive to find the balloon on fire and 16 people dead
>>1718863>disaster breakdown>is a trannyCouldn't make it up.
>>1719603>>1718863>So.... I'm a girl. Standby for new name drop.What pushed him to this point?
>>1719665Being a Geordie definitely didn't help.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balvano_train_disaster The now-forgotten Balvasno tragedy remains Italy's worst rail disaster; forgotten mostly because Italy was under Fascist rule at the time. Unlike most rail disasters, it never involved a crash or collision. Instead, a goods train doubleheaded by coal burning steam locomotives stalled in a long tunnel, which then proceeded to fill with toxic smoke that asphyxiated not only the crew of the train but the hundreds of illegal stowaway vagrants onboard. They were overcome by carbon monoxide poisoning before any of them could realize what was happening.
>>1718805>The restaurant coach, six, was crushed to a 15-centimetre (6 in) heightReading this sent shills down my spine. Fucking hell. This is why I donate monthly to my countries emergency services.
>>1720336>400 people literally BRAAAPed to death
>>1720336>forgotten mostly because Italy was under Fascist rule at the time.What are you talking about? this happened in the south in 1944
>>1719005>be me>Honarabu Nippon train driver man>train 0.03 seconds late>drive train faster to make up for lost time>train starts to drift off track>can't stop or i'll be late>relize that train will crash off track>relize that if i survive then i'll be punished for being late and crashing train>Notch throttle to max>as train leaves the track i shout BANZAI>plow into side of apartment just like grandad plowed into the side of USS Bunker Hill>die horrifcally>ancestors smile upon me
>>1719528pop pop pop watchin motherfuckers drop
>>1717894not sure if dumb decision, honest mistake, or accident, but the Mount Erebus disaster comes to mind.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Erebus_disaster>Air New Zealand Antarctic sightseeing flight, 1979>crashes into side of mountain on Ross Island, pilots thought they were flying on regular course, but flight plan was corrected by the department of transport after a printing typo was discovered and not disclosed to the pilots before they departed.>The computer program was altered such that the standard telex forwarded to US air traffic controllers (ATCs) at the United States Antarctic science facility at McMurdo Station displayed the word "McMurdo", rather than the coordinates of latitude and longitude, for the final waypoint. During the subsequent inquiry, It was concluded that this was a deliberate attempt to conceal from the United States authorities that the flight plan had been changed, and probably because it was known that US Air Traffic Control would lodge an objection to the new flight path.>Despite most of the crew being engaged in identifying visual landmarks at the time, they never perceived the mountain directly in front of them. Passenger photographs taken seconds before the collision removed all doubt of a "flying in cloud" theory, showing perfectly clear visibility well beneath the cloud base, with landmarks 13 miles (21 km) to the left and 10 miles (16 km) to the right of the aircraft visible.whole lot of mistakes.Also interesting to note:>Efforts for recovery were extensive, owing in part to the pressure from Japan, as 24 passengers had been Japanese.>Dignitaries including Sir Edmund Hillary (First Mount Everest Climber to reach the summit) had acted as guides on previous flights. Hillary was scheduled to act as the guide for the fatal flight of 28 November 1979, but had to cancel owing to other commitments. His long-time friend and climbing companion, Peter Mulgrew, stood in as guide.
>>1721105While I absolutely support your donation to the emergency services, I have to say that there isn't much, what the best equipped crew can do with human bodies that underwent a 200 kph to 0 kph stop with the simultaneous described compacting of the carriage. At that point you probably just need a plastic bag, water hose and a shovel... and a stomach made from steel.
>>1721200>>plow into side of apartment just like grandad plowed into the side of USS Bunker Hill
>>1718805What I heard the emergency brakes could only be activated by the conductor
Today another MD-87 bit the dust.Press F
>>1719665Severe autism, a sense of dissatisfaction with his life, and the encouragement of liberal masses that becoming a woman is a plausible and valid way to make a fresh start.
>>1722259You shouldn't believe hearsay then.1. All German trains must be equipped with passenger activated emergency brakes (regulation). The compartment of the guy where the broken wheel rim shot through had one directly over the compartment door.2. The failure of pulling the brake was actually one of the report points and the court case but since the guy survived and was traumatized enough, it was ruled out that he did nothing wrong...A bit of honesty: only very few people (me probably included) would react right in a shock situation..3. What you might hear was that the train was equipped with a NBÜ (Notbremsüberbrückung, translated as emergency brake override) where the train driver may override a passenger activated braking. This is also true and a standard here - if a brake activation happens for example on a high bridge, where evacuation is basically impossible, the train driver may override the braking and stop at a more suitable place. Since the wheel destruction happened on plain track without tunnels or bridges, the application of NBÜ by the driver was not probable and the train would be stopped.
>>1721293It was actually profitable to charter DC-10's for sightseeing flights over fucking Antarctica?
>>1718306imagine if he had managed to pull it off
>>1718848Holy shit, worst disaster in the thread
>>1718306>>1724663he did though, he landed the plane, he won the bet. it's the landing too fast and going off the runway part that was the issueunfortunately the first officer died trying to save passengers, so he never had to pay up
>>1724676the saddest part is that even if this didn't look like a bloke, it would still have a 9 in 10 chance of being a paedophile
>>1724676I would pay 1000 bucks to trap this tranny with Chris Chan in a zoo exhibit where you can throw food at them.
>2010 Filair crash in the DR Congo>be crocodile>minding my own business in sub-saharan africa>suddenly the world goes dark>hear engine humming and propellers whirring>figure out that I'm stuck in a bag and my captor is taking me on a journey across the land>holy shit I've never been on a plane before>I wonder what the world looks like from up high>spend the whole flight trying to get out of the bag>oh fuck, we're landing soon, I need to gtfo and look out the window>rip open the bag>fuck yes, I'm out!>rush out and try to find the nearest window>all the passengers start running to the cockpit>wtf are we disembarking already?>go to window>we're still above the ground>this must be what the giraffes see every day>woah the ground sure is coming up fa->wake up>plane's wrecked and only one dude lived>go check out the wreckage>get fucking decapitated by a machete
>>1718306late Soviet Union in a nutshelland this kind of fuckery was in every branch
>>1725250Interesting thing is that it's not THAT hard for a few strong men to restrain a croc, get all the men to the back to fight the croc while the women flee to the front and the center of gravity will even out and probably the worst that would happen is somebody loses an arm
>>1721293>>Despite most of the crew being engaged in identifying visual landmarks at the time, they never perceived the mountain directly in front of them. Passenger photographs taken seconds before the collision removed all doubt of a "flying in cloud" theory, showing perfectly clear visibility well beneath the cloud base, with landmarks 13 miles (21 km) to the left and 10 miles (16 km) to the right of the aircraft visible.>whole lot of mistakes.Only known film. I wish I could go back and warn this hottie. RIPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uthi8QAKboo
I was a kid on vacation in Portugal when this happened. During that time there was strike among transport workers. So what happened was 2 trains on a single line bearing down on each other crashed.>Foreseeing that the trains would collide, he tried to warn the guardsman on a level crossing between both stations by holding a banner or placing petards on the line; however, this action was not possible, as the train had already passed.>Around 18:37, the trains collided, while traveling approximately 100 km/h (62 mph) each. The shock destroyed both locomotives and some cars in both trains, and ignited several gasoline-fueled fires. Due to the fact that the materials used in the carriages were not fireproof, the fire spread quickly, producing great amounts of smoke.>Immediately after the crash, panic spread among the passengers, who were frantically trying to get out of the carriages. Many people, among them children, got out of the wreckage, having been helped by other passengers; others burned to death, or were asphyxiated by smoke and fumes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoWcTPWnpW4
>>1724513The 70s were a different time
>>1724513>>1726808They still do these
>>1724676My fucking eyes. Why does this creature exist?
>>1727337Why do you?
>>1727342Defending a tranny? Really?
>>1727337Yeah only attractive cisthet people should be allowed to exist. Except you of course
uhhh this guy's entire profile. he does really detailed writeups on plane crasheshttps://www.reddit.com/user/admiral_cloudberg
>>1727377fuck right off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selby_rail_crash>An InterCity 225 passenger train operated by Great North Eastern Railway (GNER) travelling from Newcastle to London collided with a Land Rover Defender which had crashed down a motorway embankment onto the railway line. It was consequently derailed into the path of an oncoming freight train at an estimated closing speed of 142 mph (229 km/h). Ten people died including the drivers of both trains, and 82 were seriously injured. It remains the worst rail disaster of the 21st century in the United Kingdom.
>>1721293There were whiteout conditions making the mountain blend into the sky. Would of looked like there was nothing in front of them.
What went wrong?
>when you’re flying and feel uncommanded rudder
>>1718476>>1719379>>1719526Captain van Zanten did nothing wrong (according to the Dutch).
>>1729575It’s literally in the charter and everything>Stop at holding positions>Do not push back unless cleared>Do not taxi unless cleared>Do not take off unless cleared>Be aware of airspace boundaries>Jacob van Zanten can do whatever the fuck he wants and WHAT HE SAYS, GAANS, MOTHERFUCKERS.
>>1727609Fucking cagers, man
>>1726672are those bright lights at the end the plane actually crashing?
>>1722729This phenomena feels really insidious. Aspie guys who would otherwise be semi normal members of society turn into mentally ill sex addled medical dependants. Really horrific stuff. Sorry I know not on topic
>>1718306>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502> could make an instrument-only approach with curtained cockpit windows,My god>>1725077>first officer died trying to save passengers, so he never had to pay upThat's no excuse.
>>1721194I think he means to say happened during WWII when there were more important things happening in Italy
>>1719379>>1719526>Marty! We've got to go back to the past, Marty! Biff was supposed to make van Zanten absolutely based, but when you turned him into a wuss, you turned van Zanten into a responsible pilot and he never gaaned! At precisely six minute and eighteen seconds past five, we have to jam the tower frequency so that he never hears that Pan Am fucking shit on the runway, Marty!>But Doc, that'll change the future!>No, Marty! He was supposed to be gaan! Your father and mother's admiration for the superstar of KLM is a nexus point! If we don't restore that nexus point, we risk destroying the space-time continuum irreversibly! Put these doctored cockpit and flight data recorders in the trunk, Marty! Once the signal's jammed, we have to retrieve the real recorders from the burning wreckage and replace them with the fakes so that nobody asks questions!>Oh, Doc, this is heavy.>The recorders aren't that hard to carry, Marty!
>>1718805My ex had a ticket for that train. They missed it because she nagged her mum for ice cream.
>>1731948Kek. High effort
>>1730277found the zoomzoom
>>1717894First run on new route. Take 30 MPH curve at 80 MPH.
>>1733542Good ending.(Today was the first day of service back on the line)
>>1726616>worst that would happen is somebody loses an armThat's pretty fucking bad
>>1733542For freights that curve is ten
>>1733560It seems overkill to have two big locomotives pulling four passenger cars. Do Americans really?
>>1721293I worked in Antarctica for a lot of years and it was always interesting listening to the old timers talk about having to collect the bodies, and how when the body bags would heat up from sitting in the sun, they'd fill up with gas and burst, which would cause the Skua to show up and start eating the pieces.
>>1724676Autism to trans pipeline
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bayou_Canot_rail_accidentAmtrak's deadliest rail disaster. Some sources say at least one victim may have been taken by opportunistic alligators, but this was never proven.
>>1734351The one in the back has had its engine, motors, and fuel tank removed. It now serves as a cab car for push-pull service, with the engine compartment now used as a baggage car. Hence the railfan nickname "cabbage car".
>>1717894Damn. Even if more people survived the crash they still had little chance of surviving the ice. https://youtu.be/B2tzvmYFMJU
>>1718616>The ferry's pilot, Richard J. Smith, fled the scene and was found shortly afterwards at home. Smith had tried to kill himself by cutting his wrists and shooting himself in the chest twice with a pellet gun.He did OD but was high as hell and pretty damn stupid.
>>1717894>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways_Flight_235>right engine fails>crew cuts power to left engine>.....
>>1717894Honestly don't know how this race of people has survived
>>1720041>>1724676So this is the face of Norf FC on estrogen.Simple as.>>1731948kek>>1739383Vodka. Plenty of it.
>>1737406That's just stupid.
>>1740650Damn I can’t believe he’s fucking deadMay as well get it in ahead of schedule
>>1718616>one of which happened to be a survivor of the 9/11 attacks 2 years earlier (I shit you not)You think that’s bad?>be restaurant worker at the WTC>fucking 9/11>escape with your life>the worst is over>board a flight for the Dominican Republic two months later to see your kids>it’s fucking American Airlines Flight 587Hilda Mayol was her nameGod just felt like a little trolling
>>1717894That was a rough day for tra/n/sportation in DC.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Washington_Metro_train_derailment>The 1982 Washington Metro train derailment was an incident involving a single Orange Line Washington Metro train during the afternoon rush hour of January 13, 1982, in Downtown Washington, D.C. in the United States. The train derailed as it was being backed up from an improperly closed rail switch between the Federal Triangle and Smithsonian stations, and caused the deaths of three passengers. Several survivors were trapped for hours, and 25 were injured. The incident was the first resulting in a fatality involving the Metro system and remained as the deadliest incident occurring in the system until the June 22, 2009 collision that resulted in nine fatalities.>The incident occurred only 30 minutes after Air Florida Flight 90 crashed at the 14th Street bridge complex, a short distance to the south, taxing emergency responders and paralyzing transportation across the Washington metropolitan area.
>>1740650Who were the 8 people that liked his post?
>>1744439Tranny and sissy chasers.
>>1744437how in the fuck does splitting a switch kill 3 people?!?!
>>1744437Fucking retards. Railroading 101 if you run through the switch you never back up.
>>1737300you mean>inadvertent autofeather on #1, engine otherwise functioning>Captain yanks the #2>last words on the CVR were the First Officer saying something like 'You fucking retard you've killed us'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graniteville_train_crash>The Graniteville train crash was an American rail disaster that occurred on January 6, 2005, in Graniteville, South Carolina. At roughly 2:40 am EST, two Norfolk Southern trains collided near the Avondale Mills plant in Graniteville. Nine people were killed and over 250 people were treated for toxic chlorine exposure. The accident was determined to be caused by a misaligned railroad switch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtNAGFITk8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3Ha087IRg
>>1739383Is this Fuku? TEPCO was completely at fault here but most people don't know it.
In light of recent events>OH SHIT, OH SHIT, OH SHIT, AAAAAAAAAAAA-
>>1746280>boomer yellingthis guy seems like a ding dong
>>1746297>hmmm today I will do a tight circling approach to another runway instead of just landing> <--- clueless
>>1718848>>1740650It's a tough job.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana_(steamboat)If negligence was a contest this crew would win hands down.
>>1745722>>1745722Either you're trolling or you're born after 2010. It's of course Block 4 of the most known power plant in the world which taught the world many useful things...>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
AF447 without a doubt.The stall warning sounded 72 times but none of the crew did anything about it.When Dubois was on break, Robert, the senior FO, should have taken command when Bonin, the junior FO, lost situational awareness. This was not PIA or late-2000s Garuda, this was a major European full-service carrier, I would have thought that they had CRM down pat, especially after United 173, PSA182 and Tenerife.The end result was the uncrashable A330 ended up crashing and 228 bodies were left at the bottom of the Atlantic. This all could have been avoided if the crew had *not ignored the 72 stall warnings.*
>>1748251>be Airbus>masterful french technical design >when the airspeed reads slow enough, the stall horn warning shuts off>pilot stalls plane so bad the airspeed drops below cutoff and stall warning shuts off>falls to pitch black mid-atlantic in peaceful silence>decides to try pushing nose down>pushing nose forward causes speed to go above cutoff, stall warning starts blaring>pilot pulls back on control, reversing action which caused warning to sound>speed drops below cutoff, stall warning stops>plane resumes silent peacefull fall into back death>brilliant french design>no, of course it's stupid to expect french pilots to have experience actual flying experience in small piston planes>just have them sit in the cockpit of an airliner on autopilot for hours and hours... that's good enoughbig brained frogs
>>1748380Bonin is the sigma male pilot.>ignore captain's input>nullify it with your own by pulling up in a stall>take 227 other souls with you
>>1718805>Germans are so autistic about rules and trains that they won't pull the brake even if there is a piece of metal poking through the floor
>>1748396thanks for reminding me of that other absolutely wonderful french design feature>two pilots are applying opposite control inputs at the same time>violating the principle of pilot/flying and pilot/monitoring>traditional flight controls would transmit their inputs to each other so they could realize they could identify opposite inputs or multiple people flying>big brain airbus just sums them together>control sticks are on outside of cockpit, very difficult to see the motion of your copilots joystick>shitty little display of the computers average inputs>shitty little alert for cross controlwow great fucking job froggies
>>1748971>just sum the inputs togetherThis seems like a spectacularly dump idea. I can't think of one scenario when this would be desirable.
>>1748971>>1748980Are the inputs combined or is the second input just ignored?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYIwBY-h0yU
>>1747747>376 maximum certified occupancy>ship was carrying 2137 at the time of the disasterJesus fucking Christ
>>1718474no fucks given. too crazy to live, too based to die
>>1718805>superior German passenger fails to see a big red handle marked "emergency brake" in his compartmenti always thought he saw it, but didn't pull it because he thought he needed the conductor's permission. maybe i confused that with the conductor following the rulebook.
>>1730164If I was the other flight I would have told the dutch plane directly that I was on the runway Like wtf both planes are totally blind
>>1747747>all union pow'sDeserved it desu
>>1725250This is the closest we will ever get to seeing a dragon take down a plane.
>>1740761Still waiting for a movie to rival how good this looked.
>>1747747>Survive the horrors of war and being put through a POW camp>Get turned to chum for the price of a bacon egg and cheeseSome people just werent meant to win.
2003 Congo air disaster>The two-hour flight was chartered by the military to transport soldiers and their families.>At an altitude of 10,000 feet, the cargo door of the Ilyushin Il-76 suddenly opened, sucking many passengers out of the aircraft.>Several people were clinging to ropes, bags and netting on the interior wall of the plane.>The number of deaths are unknown due to the fact that everyone is covering their asses.>It could anywhere to 17 to 60 to even 129. Perhaps up to 160.The only consolation there could be it that this accident occured at night so the passengers couldn't see the ground as they fell.
>>1729327Lack of fuel, afaik
>>1740761WITH NO FATALITIES
>>1749212That's blown out.
>>1740761If there were no deaths then the pilots had parachutes, but why?
>>1717894Not sure if this is the best place to post it but on /x/ I posted about my dreams of a mid-air collision that kills 619 people, AND involves an aircraft that the public was told was never made
>>1724513Imagine if you were allowed to do exploration trips where people could land to explore the islands like they let you do with cruise ships that go down there
>>1727586DB, you only did this because you saw that other people around you were doing it, you do a disservice to women by presenting every one of them as being like yourself
>>1748380I'm surprised that an Airbus knows what a go around is considering that the A320 shits the bed when you attempt one (I'm looking at you, AF296)
>>1749913But that wasn't the airplane's fault. Arguably it saved lives because the computer prevented the plane from stalling out and thus crash violently into the ground instead of the gradual deceleration it ended up with. Plus it wouldn't have to interfere at all if the plane wasn't flying below minimum approach speed with the engines at idle before the captain noticed he was about to crash into the trees.
The dumbest attempted smash that didn't come off was a flight engineer taking a mallet to the skulls of the pilots. How the fuck they survived I can't remember but they took him down eventually. The black box is horrific but hilarious, will post some one day.
>>1749079Also if you saw one of the wheels shattered and poking through the floor of the train car you wouldn't be inclined to think the emergency brake was trustworthy or would not actively make things worse>>1721293The mountain's namesake is a decent example tooI wish the names of the ship and her sister, or at least the mountains, had been switched around so that the plane could have crashed into Mount Terror
>>1750972The captain didn't even intend for the engines to idle, he wanted to so a simple slow flyby. Airbus since then has NEVER invested or attempted to make a plane that can do slow flight
>>1748251>tfw there's likely an alternate timeline where Swiss 111 was an A330 instead of an MD-11
>>1751159Sure, tell yourself that. meanwhile in portugal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26H-WzIe858AF296 was a french shitshow from the organizers that approved a demonstration with near maximum number of passengers on board, a captain that didn´t practice the maneuver beforehand and did it on an airport he wasn´t familiar with, and airbus for coming up with the idea in the first place, and agreed to disable the system that automatically throttles up at low altitude to pull it off.
>>1751166The A310 is an older model than the A320, its interface requires more manual input
>>1751178A310 uses an analog trim fbw as opposed to a full digital fbw like in the 320, and a yoke instead of sidestick, but it´s also electrically operated. You can completely disable computer control on the a320 with two cockpit switches, sending it into alternate/direct law that even requires manual trimming, so there´s nothing stopping the maneuver if the pilot could pull it off...
I hate faggots
>>1751196OK, GOOD 4 U DUDE..ITS OK AND GOOD TO GO..
>>1744692never gets old
>>1717894Honestly? Any non-IFR pilot that takes passengers (usually family/friends), intentionally flies VFR into IMC, and then doesn't squawk mayday when they get disoriented and ends up pancaking. If you're talking airlines/big kill count only, then probably that Aeroflot flight where they let the kids fly and then decided to perform acrobatics instead of just engaging the emergency autopilot and letting it level out automatically.https://youtu.be/RrttTR8e8-4https://youtu.be/RrttTR8e8-4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Lambert_International_Airport#Accidents_and_incidents>August 1, 1943: during a demonstration flight of an "all St. Louis-built glider", a Waco CG-4A, USAAF serial 42-78839, built by sub-contractor Robertson Aircraft Company, lost its starboard wing due to a defective wing strut support and plummeted vertically to the ground at Lambert Field, killing all on board, including St. Louis Mayor William D. Becker; Maj. William B. Robertson and Harold Krueger, both of Robertson Aircraft; Thomas Dysart, president of the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce; Max Doyne, director of public utilities; Charles Cunningham, department comptroller; and Henry Mueller, St. Louis Court presiding judge. The failed component had been manufactured by Robertson subcontractor Gardner Metal Products Company, of St. Louis, which, coincidentally, had been a casket maker.
>>1753018>coincidentally, had been a casket maker.[117That is what we in the business call foreshadowing.
>>1751166Uh what's the issue, they didn't crashProbably shouldn't do it with passengers on board and it looked a little dangerously close to stall speedBut overall these bureaucrats are way anal about stuff that doesn't cause accidents, while actuql accidents due to archaic systems happens every day
>>1718616>one of which happened to be a survivor of the 9/11 attacks 2 years earlier (I shit you not)>>1744209>You think that’s bad?Look up the guy that survived the Vietnam War & was portrayed in the movie We Were Soldiers.>Survives Vietnam>Become Security Head in the WTC>9/11 happensGod is the master troll indeed.
>>1718823Still happenshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Shoreham_Airshow_crash>As it neared the airport, it pulled up into an inside loop. This manoeuvre started from a height of 200 feet (60 m), which leading aviation expert David Learmount later said "left no room for misjudgement". The loop should have been started at a height of 500 feet (150 m) and a speed of at least 350 knots (650 km/h), attaining a height of 4,000 feet (1,200 m) and 150 knots (280 km/h) at the top of the loop. Only 2,700 feet (820 m) and 105 knots (194 km/h) were achieved from an initial entry speed of 310 knots (570 km/h).>Before it could complete the loop, the aircraft crashed in a nose-high attitude
>>1749904Because that's the smart thing to do
>>1754697Video of it
>>1755395And a pretty well-captured photo from the ground
>>1754697>>1718823>tfw Heart Piercer is still the only banned aerobatic stunt