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Post pictures of absolutely grim transportation infrastructure
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A classic
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>>1711416
BART isn't THAT good.
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>>1711420
>when you first unlock rail in cities skylines
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>>1711559
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>>1711505
What's the problem? I even see a rail trail

>>1711559
>Share the road cagies, it's the law!
>Noooo you can't just expect me to share the road with cagies
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>>1711408
that looks like California…no excuse for that bike to be off the sidewalk anyway, that’s their personal lane.
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>>1711574
I will say, on high speed highways you should not expect bicycles, and people who put bike lanes on those are complete retards. In town, sharing streets works fine. But with higher speeds you should definitely have fully separated traffic.
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>>1711574
>putting a bike lane down the middle of a cloverleaf intersection between an express way and a high speed arterial road
Oh yeah, there's absolutely no way this could possibly go wrong with cagers mowing down cyclists while changing lanes.
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>>1711408
I don't mind sharrows actually, they're better than being forced into incredibly unsafe lanes in the gutter
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>>1711559
that is a trap. they are straight up trying to limit the cyclist population
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>>1711714
They do that themselves, you can check anywhere on /n/.
>dude helmets are for weenies
>dude signs and signals are for cars, not for cyclists
>[collision/death rates go up]
>oy vey, this is a shoah, persecute the cagers now
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>>1711574
>>Share the road cagies, it's the law!
>>Noooo you can't just expect me to share the road with cagies
Not even they pretend it's really about "sharing". "Sharing" is just a stepping stone on the way to their vision of total car abolition.
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>>1711814
>"Sharing" is just a stepping stone on the way to their vision of total car abolition.
This but unironically.
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>>1711410
kek
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>>1711719
>>1711720
wtf i love europe now
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All of America
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>>1712196
Looks like bikes can only go left or straight (right seems to lead to an expressway) so putting the bike lane there is the most logical place for it
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I just want to live in the Netherlands
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>>1712226
>wanting to live in the nation state manifestation of "you will own nothing and love it" because it has ebin bike infrastructure
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>>1711811
this
bunch of faggot losers seriously
they refuse to even believe that michelin makes good inner tubes

>>1711559
that's fine, you have plenty of visibility to see if cars are coming from the side
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>>1712240
ok boomer, drop dead already
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>>1712226
how dark are you? could you pass for a black? could be very easy or very difficult if you look white or have an education
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>>1711505
woooooooow that's fucking hilarious
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>>1711522
soul
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>>1712240
>healthy distribution of wealth
>somehow a bad thing
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>>1712340
>a healthy distribution is when like 100 guys own everything and everyone else owns nothing and you put even Russia to shame
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>>1711413
>one car stops
>refuses to elaborate
>gets out the car and leaves
He would get charged with economic terrorism lol
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>>1712561
>He would get charged with economic terrorism lol
he would probably be charged with the normal type too
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>>1712561
>>one car stops
>>refuses to elaborate
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>>1712561
A DOT truck or wrecker would have that removed in 15 minutes or less
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>>1712574
In rush hour?
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>>1712582
Yes

It's common for relevant agencies to stage police, DOT, and wrecker vehicles in strategic locations before afternoon rush hour begins to handle incidents faster.
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https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8707034,-97.1122578,3a,15y,319.68h,89.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp0j1qCSVQoevJCYHMRUNMQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
this stroad is pretty much the only way 1/4 of a city of 600,000 gets to work lol
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>>1712574
Ive seen a sheriff's deputy get a car that was blocking a bridge out of the way by pushing on its bumper with the cattleguard in front of his truck while the cars driver sat inside and steered. Was pretty funny, scuffed up the bumper real bad
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>>1711420

the problem here is no bicycle highway, the presence of trains is overall a good thing
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>>1712778
Literally no different than a massive elevated highway for people on the ground
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Let’s see some grim transit infrastructure. Denver’s LRT lines along highways and empty industrial areas come to mind.
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>>1711409
absolutely atrocious
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>>1715371
MBTA has some post-Soviet-tier 40 year old stock.
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>>1712561
https://youtu.be/4PkcfQtibmU
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>>1715391
We've got older then that, the pccs are literally ancient at this point
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>>1711505

> if only someone could come up with an idea for something of a multi-story building where you can park your car
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>>1711420
Are those flood plains or swamp lands that they're all on posts? Why couldn't they just elevate them on sand and build passages?
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>>1711719
Ahh we have one like that in Riga. Best things it's on decline around corner, so you pick up speed, and BAM BUSHES. Even better in summer when foliage blocks view.

But what's most puzzling that it terminates against a plot of land. No idea how they plan on extending it.
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>>1711415
it looks like there is a bike traffic light that would give cyclists a window to do this. The bigger danger is probably the 'no turn on red' sign that beaners might not respect, although I've seen these LED signs popping up recently. Some green thermoplastic markings might help too.
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>>1715710
This is what happens when there's a top down directive to build X miles of MUPs and absolutely no oversight into where they go
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>>1711413
Why is one fully white and one fully red?
Is it because the white ones are going towards the camers (therefore showing the front lights) and the red ones are going in the opposite direction (showing the back lights)?
If so, shouldn't there be some red in the left and white in the right, from the adjacent car being lit by the one in the front/back?
How do we only see one color super brightly and the other not at all?
Is it because the one pointing towards the camera is so strong that it makes the reflection of the other one too dim to see by comparison?
Is it becasue the cars aren't close enough together for the reflection to be visible from that distance?
Is it all these factors together?
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>>1712240
nigger, if that image is meant to imply usa is better than sweden and netherlands it would also mean brazil and ukraine were better than usa
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>>1711811
american spotted. helmets being 'protection' is just a motor industry fabrication. the vast majority of cyclist deaths would not be prevented with a helmet.
also, who actually says that signs and signals are only for cars? get a fucking grip mate
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>>1715883
retard
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>>1711811
>muh helmet
I prefer to keep my head unencumbered so I can look around and know where all the cagers are.
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>>1715391
Soviet trains aren't nearly that bad lol. They're actually important infrastructure.
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>>1711413
Thats quite pretty I have to admit.
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>>1711418
I think this call for some reasonable tresspassing.
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>>1715707
bruh you can literally see swamps and shallow lakes on the background.
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>>1716402
>heller everyone, today is gonna be epic, BECAUSE
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>>1715690
There is one
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>>1715882
It's implying that all the nations there are hellholes of Brazil tier inequality.
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>>1711505
>“parkersburg”
>literally a burg full of parking
Extreme kek
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>>1711408
/n/ightmares
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>>1711522
Pretty crowded, but from my visits there I'd say the public transit in Berlin is far from "dire"
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Legit question: why are cagers such pussies?
Some twat thought he could horn beep me to get off the road so i flipped him off in front of his missus. I wanted to fight the fucker but he just drove off like a bitch.
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Does this count?
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>>1715880
Shhh, don't let facts get in the way, only meme pictures and videos are allowed on /n/ anymore
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>>1711719
I love how the road owner didn't event thought of making a hole in the guard rail to allow pedal cycles to re-join the carriageway.
They can even fine you if you operate a pedal cycle on the sidewalk
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>>1716931
Ok so what is it then?
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>>1716840
I'm fine with that if they also ban all on street parking and use the space for bike lanes and sidewalks
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>>1716932
get off and walk retard
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>>1712340
>implying serfs get any ealth
lmao
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>>1716989 Not gonna even touch the brakes.
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Spaghetti junction in Brisbane. There’s also tunnels underneath. All of this makes my gps have a panic attack
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>>1716414
Stairser of doom.
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>>1716989
Pic is in Italy.
For the Italian Highway Code if you dismount a pedal cycle, a moped or motorcycle and you push it on foot it's still considered as operating the vehicle and you MUST NOT operate vehicles or drive animals on the sidewalk.
Also the maximum width for a pedal cycle is 130cm, the sidewalk is not wide enough.
The engineers who design this shit should have known better
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>>1716402
Imagine cycling down the ramp
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>>1717270
the cracks down the middle look like someone did
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>>1716931
>uh here's the pic from the side, the design of this town isn't bad because uh, there's trees!
lmao, amazing logic, still a car dependant shithole, which should not be the case for such a small town, it's the small towns that should be walkable.
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>>1715798
can confirm that no right turn on red signals are about 80% effective, nearly been hit multiple times by retards, even when just walking across
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>>1711814
maybe if less retarded drivers killed bikers they wouldn't want cars gone.
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>>1711574
>>1711814
The ultimate redpill is that Cyclists DON'T want to share the road with cars. It's a necessity born out of shitty infrastructure that forces cars and bikes to coexist on the same plot of pavement.
Cyclists and Drivers are both happier when the other isn't sharing pavement with them.
The difference is Cyclists want bike-only infrastructure and cagies don't.
As long as cagies keep blocking cycling infrastructure, they have to share the road.
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>>1717364
>The difference is Cyclists want bike-only infrastructure and cagies don't.
Speak for yourself, not everyone who rides a bike is a delusional batavophile
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>>1716931
the only thing this image shows is that those stores are literally isolated from any sort of livable space. Literally where do the people who work and shop there live? What's the point of this place?
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>>1717368
>delusional batavophile
lol

>>1717374
They live in the surrounding area
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>>1716931

This is Breezewood, PA

It's literally designed to be a stop for highway traffic
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>>1717055
I love Brisbane and it looks like they're starting to head in the right direction (green bridges, centenary bikeway is incredible) but the highway infrastructure here is the ugliest shit in the world. The Inner City Bypass is a blight on the best part of the city. T.bike commuting to the city.
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>>1711418
When you accidently throw your ball over the fence.
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>>1716402
Not too bad to negotiate with a light bike, but a nightmare with panniers. Cargo bike? Forget it.
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>>1712240
>Believing that wealth redistribution means lower wealth
Why are you even on /n/?
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>>1722194
for those of us who aren't failures, wealth redistribution would mean we had less wealth.
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Had to venture into the suburbs today for some CL bike parts, and drove through this thing. I've never seen an intersection quite like it--why build it this way?

>>1711505
I used to live in Belpre, and would ride through there everyday, on my way to work. Yeah, it's pretty bleak.
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>>1711413
Is that the LAX PAPI?
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>>1722284
>all this to avoid the roundabout
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>>1717506
The PA turnpike authority are complete faggots for not allowing direct access for crossing interstate highways.
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>>1722284
Because American road planners are retards stuck in the '60s.
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>>1722284
It technically improves safety and reduces 90-degree collisions.
t. traffic engineering professional
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>>1715883
Bro I got into an accident twice on my bicycle. Both times I slammed my head on the asphalt. Didn't feel a thing because of my helmet.
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>>1722284
That's a "Superstreet" style intersection. It avoids collision points and improves traffic flow on the main roads but it sucks for the cross street.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstreet
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>>1711522
this is like one of those photos of beaches in southern england from last year during summer. The types that popped up all over sensationalist covid tweets. It's a bullshit false perspective designed to make people REEEE about crowds and social distancing.
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>>1711505
is this real
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>>1711719
Based
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>>1722284
i live close to a roundabout (luckily they're going to reroute the whole thing and add sound barriers), it gets bottlenecked during rush hour and during the summer it gets ridiculous with the noise of the accelerations of the joyriders with their harley davidsons and trombone cars. that looks like it would maintain a more consistent flow of traffic and not bottleneck like a roundabout.
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>>1722380
also there has been a bunch of collisions in the roundabout
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>>1722381
>>1722380
>bunch of collisions in the roundabout
What third world country do you live in?
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>>1722358
That aerial shot is a couple years old, though it's much the same... one of the small parking lots turned into a Sheetz.
But there's more parking lots, and another garage just outside the frame. My pic is near:
goo gl/maps/E6EPkSqxcRAsSrFs9
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>>1722382
sweden
it doesn't happen all the time and barely gets mentioned in the local news but since i live so close i tend to notice it more
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>>1711559
>someone was paid to come up with this
lmao
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Pic is from a ride last week. These are not highways, numbered routes, etc. I was headed East and that merge, with the three white cars, is... suspenseful.

>>1722341
>"Superstreet"
Cool to know the name & the reasoning. There must not be many of these, because that specific intersection is mentioned in the wiki article.
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>>1711559
I slow down until someone sees me and slows down enough that they're obviously letting me go then I make sure I take like 10 minutes to cross the turn off so that the cars never ever let a cyclist out again
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>>1715882
Think it is implying Gini is not a good measurement on its own.
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>>1722694
That's casual.
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>>1722426
I’ve never seen a problem so easy to solve with some yellow paint. Jesus, whoever designed that but of road must be an actual retard. The problem spot is the north-bound off ramp next to the southbound road.
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>>1711505
>Parkersburg
Top kek

To be fair it looks like they’re building a parking garage in the middle there. Although there’s a good chance it’s to increase capacity rather than to replace any of the lots.
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>>1722713
r u even trying
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>>1712564
Holy shit his car fucking “crashed”? How often has this happen to Teslas? Imagine driving a car that can’t even start without software allowing it, fuck.
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>>1715707
For one, you can literally see the marshes in the picture. For two, those crazy Chinese really love putting railroads on those concrete viaducts and will take any opportunity to do it. To be fair, it does look breddy gud.
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>>1715880
>Is it because the one pointing towards the camera is so strong that it makes the reflection of the other one too dim to see by comparison?
Yes
>Is it becasue the cars aren't close enough together for the reflection to be visible from that distance?
Also yes but mostly the first one
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>>1715883
>helmets being 'protection' is just a motor industry fabrication
Do cyclists really?
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G-guys, don't forget about Florida!
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>>1717374
The point of the place is it’s a truck stop. No one lives there. It exists to consume while delivering consumables.
>>1717385
You can see in the image that there’s no “surrounding area”. People live in nearby towns. No one lives there.
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>>1722738
just /n/ autistic freaks who are insecure about how they look and can't cope with new things or how the helmet/straps feel against their skin
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>>1722284
I could see this as forcing highway traffic to slow down before entering town, along with what other anons said about reducing 90 degree collisions. Also prevents backflip on the highway from traffic entering town that a regular traffic light would create.
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Bank now is closed to traffic, but it used to be such a clusterfuck junction that many cyclist and pedestrian died trying to cross it.
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>>1722824
What's the highest number of intersection approaches you've seen? Anything higher than 6 is pretty rare in the US, but I know there are several 7-way intersections in London (Seven Dials, etc).
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>>1722398
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>>1722824
Amateurs

>>1722857
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>>1722892
Now we are talking
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Budapest has some of these abominations. This in particular is always clogged up. There are the station of three major tram lines and the M2 metro line.
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>>1722946
this was just an experiment if I remember correctly.

>>1722892
LMAO what the fuck
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They redesigned the plaza in fron of Keleti railway station and this what it became. It's better than what it looks but it still qualifies. This was finished in 2014.
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>>1716409
>I think this call for some reasonable tresspassing.
NOT IN MY AMERICA
*cauks gun*
*dials police*
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>>1722284
looks like they have a high traffic road going through there with two side streets that service a small housing development and a church or somethign across the street. probably very few people crossing from one side to the other so its not worth making huge floods of 60mph cars slam on the brakes so one car can cross every once in a while. i wish there were more intersections like this.

always drives me ballistic when a flood of a bunch of gas guzzlers at top speed have to slam on the breaks and stop for one or two cars, the slam on the gas again to re-accelerate back up to speed. uggggh, the wasted resources and emissions

there is a high crime area by me where the lights are triggered to turn red as the cars approach them. wow. most annoying thing in the world driving through there at 4am becuae you will litereally hit every red light
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In Maryland they're converting the shoulder of highways into "bike lanes".
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>>1722947
It was built in 1972 and it's still there now, so that's some experiment.
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>>1723259
That's how it is back home. A literal shoulder, speed limit 65mph. Every exit is a chance for your life to end.
I can only figure that these serve some legal requirement, to access funding.
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>>1723286
If you let bikes ride on the shoulder, then your project is multi-modal. Some project will build a 5ft MUP on the side of the highway and claim it's increasing livability and quality of life while adding 2 lanes in each direction. But the project is multimodal so how can you argue against it. :^)

t. transportation planning pro
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>>1722734
>whoopsie looks like your car "accidentally" crashed you have to wait for the tesla service team to repair

the right to repair isn't fucking there anymore.
we already see this with large car manufacturers or tractors the vehicle stops working and you have to wait for a specialized service team to fix which takes some time for them to arrive which farmers have not oh have i mentioned those repairs are fucking expensive
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>>1715690
Anon, they have enough parking as it is, they don't need more. All that land is parking lots because they demolished the buildings back in the 60s and parking lots are more functional than empty lots.
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>>1723286
what mad man would ride here?
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>>1716402
Are cyclists really supposed to ride down the grooved edges?!
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>>1711409
Holy shit I was just there and drove through that interchange a million times. That is Lehi, Utah I believe. Pic related looks similar but I could've sworn this was it.
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>>1723348
No, you dismount and walk your bike up or down.
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>>1723352
>Veterans Memorial Highway
Do Americans really?
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>>1723341
I've done it out of desperation when there was no other way. You just gotta put on your headphones, hug the outer edge of the road, and try not to shit.
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>>1723415
Is it hard to pedal with balls that massive?
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>>1717364
Given the prevalent "fuck you, your rules, and your signals, I will ride where I want, when I want" attitude seen on this board, bike-only infrastructure won't do shit. Even if you're not a massive hypocrite you never call out those that act that way.
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>>1723352
I almost moved out there for a job (Micron), but man, the smog can get so bad. It's unfortunate.
I'm used to the Appalachian mountains, I don't think there's anything like that over there.
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>>1711409
isn't this like one of those cross diamond intersections where you drive on the opposite side between the two merging points and no one turning left gets stuck?
it looks horrible but works surprisingly well
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>>1723286
>>1723289
>>1723424
I don't know how it is elsewhere, but in rural Colorado there are stretches of interstate that are signed for bikes too - the reason for that is to signal that those are exceptional areas where bikes are allowed because there's literally no other alternative route to places served by that highway.

>>1723424
Not that guy, but if you can ride in stormy crosswinds then you can ride next to an interstate, it's not that big of a deal. It's unpleasantly noisy, but most interstates have HUGE shoulders so it's not particularly unsafe. The potential conflict point is entry/exit ramps, but since you'd only ride on a highway in a very rural area anyways there's not likely to be much traffic, and if you're uncomfortable you can just ride off and back on via the ramps instead of crossing through them anyways.

Admittedly I say this as someone who grew up and learned to ride bikes in a city where 6-lane arterial roads bigger than many interstates are common, so I have a very high tolerance for stressful riding situations...
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>>1723611
Car guys will blame the smog on everything besides cars.
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>>1723621
Hey, I've rode through one of those. Industrial area, but therer were bike lanes the entire length, both directions.
You can just see the green bike boxes in this pic.
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>>1723647
Los Angeles smog is caused by the topography of the area and the direction of air flow (as well as air elsewhere in the area, like forest fires)...I imagine it's similar in other places. I've never seen outright denial that cars have anything to do with it, but I guess when you spend so much time around people bitching about cars and how they're everything wrong with the world, anything less than that is heresy.
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>>1723811
>he actually did it
lol
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>>1723811
LA is one of the most cager places in the world though
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>>1723811
Topography doesn't cause air pollution.
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>>1723917
It definitely worsens it though. Thermal inversions are real.
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>>1723847
Thanks for proving MY point.
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>>1722736
The viaduct spam might be because they’re afraid of flooding
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>>1721599
nigga!
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Earlier today I looked up US Rep Jim Jordan's hometown... and it has a roundabout with integrated parking.
I fucking hope this never catches on.
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>>1724436
It looks a little impractical, especially if parking isn't plentiful. The "parking in the roundabout" has been in that city since at least the mid-1990s, the main improvement being actual concrete in the roundabout and between the lanes instead of just yellow striping. Otherwise I really don't see anything inherently wrong with it.
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>>1724436
roundabouts waste enough space in the first place that I dont see a problem with this approach
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>>1722765
The pedestrian signal is probably timed for like a full minute or something, though. Those ultra-narrow bike lanes that go nowhere (and are at risk for cars turning from the north-south) need to be eliminated and replaced with a MUP though.
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>>1724470
didn't even notice there were bike lines there
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>>1724436
desu if you're going slow that's not so bad but I doubt you'd really wanna park and walk around the average US highstreet
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>>1724436
Every day we stray further from God's light.
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>>1711415
I ride that street everyday. I never take that gay turn. Most people ignore it and just ride on the and do wheelies
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>>1712692
That was probably me. My cars battery shorted in the middle of rush hour traffic on one of LA's most busy freeways. I was just chilling in my whip so I told 911 to send someone to push me off the freeway. It took a good half hour for highway patrol to show up and push me off the freeway. The wagies were fucking seething lol.





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