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/BBG/- catch all thread for questions regading the purchase of new or used bicycles.

places where you can get new bikes RIGHT NOW:
playtri
wiggle
ribble
canyon
poseidon

Old bikes:
Facebook marketplace
craigslist.org
your local bike co-op

REMEMBER: Nobody ever regretted spending too much to get a cool bike.
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>>1684541
don't just look at online retailers, check with the top brands like trek, cannondale, specialized, giant
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>>1684541
>nobody ever regretted spending too much to get a cool bike
pls stop
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>>1684569
That is true, however Trek is backed up about 6 months and I haven't seen a CAAD since before covid.
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>>1684541
>REMEMBER: Nobody ever regretted spending too much to get a cool bike.
wrong
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>>1684576
he didnt buy that bike though
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>>1684571
>>1684576
Here come the poors shitting up another /bbg/ thread.

>REMEMBER: Nobody ever regretted spending too much to get a cool bike

This is also generally true with cars.

In the end that $300 (bike)or $3000 (car) difference between 2 different bikes or cars doesnt matter. Buy the one you like better. Bang for the buck doesnt matter. A bike or car lasts 15 years. Any price differences are negligible over the life of the product.

In conclusion- shoot your shot, buy the red bike, don't let growing up in uncertain times make you have cheapness/money neurosis like the depression era generation.
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>>1684569
At least by me, playtri is brick n mortar
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>>1684580
this. anything below $3000 is well below the point of diminishing returns. if you live in a first world country your budget is completely arbitrary, if you have $600 you can come up with $1000 and get a bike that's on a whole other level. you will spend money on accessories, maintenance, upgrades, food etc over the course of your bike ownership that the few hundred bucks spent up front makes fuck all of a difference in the long run.
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I'm considering getting into bike riding around my city and was wondering if you could recommend me a dependable bicycle?
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>>1684602
cannondale quick 3
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>>1684584
friendly reminder that this poster literally does not even have a bike
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>>1684541
>Nobody ever regretted spending too much to get a cool bike.
Wat bullshit is this
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>>1684584
ignore this dumbass, he is poor and doesn't ride. having money left to get a good bike computer, saddle, pedals, bottle cages, saddlebag, lights, basic tools, and kit is far more important than the difference between ultegra and 105. even the difference between generic alexrims or vision crap and good entry level wheels is way more important than 105 vs dura ace di2.
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>>1684632
did you ever?
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are there any brands that sell steel road/touring framesets and SHIP WORLDWIDE?
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>>1684653
steel is poorfag cope memery. if you can afford to ship a frame from the other side of the earth you can afford a good frame made of carbon
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>>1684654
lmao, garbone retards are all the same
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>>1684654
and yet I don't want carbon
hard to believe huh?
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>>1684653
of course
for how much moneys ?
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>>1684676
If I could get a quality one for around $1k shipped that would be fantastic but I doubt that's realistic
size 54 btw
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I current ride a 90's rigid mtb on firetrails, what's a good hardtail upgrade? I was looking at the giant talon 1, cannondale trail 4, and scott scale 970, but I kind of picked the $1000 price point arbitrarily. Is there a good "best value" sort of price point, analogous to 105 for road?
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>>1684602
I would check your craigslist for a mountain bike you could convert into a commuter. Failing that, something LIKE but not necessarily the Jamis Coda.

See also mamacharis and commuter bikes. Heavy but reliable.

>>1684653
Each country has fucked up shipping regulations. 90 percent of those frames are from Maxway anyways.

>>1684781
Deore is about tiagra. Look at the suspension and get the RIGHT one for you, and the right geometry. All three of those are solid choices. At that price, I would hope to get out of Suntor crap range, have good hydraulic brakes AND be able to fit a dropper post in the budget, but that last is a stretch I think.
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>>1684781
$1500-$1700 is the sweet spot, same as road. That gets you a hardtail trail bike like a Kona Honzo or Specialized Fuze with Deore, a decent air fork (RockShox owns this segment for OEMs), and a dropper post. $1k bikes are okay if you can find one with Deore or even Advent (SRAM at this price point sucks) and a RockShox air fork. Suntour's air forks like the Raidon are good but they never appear on OEM bikes, while their XC* forks are varying degrees of sucky. Then upgrade the seatpost with a dropper like the PNW Bachelor.
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>>1684792
>At that price, I would hope to get out of Suntor crap range
sorry to break it to you but 1000 burgers (or equivalent) in 2020+1 barely gets you 3x7 tourney and a suntour pogo stick. And that's if you're lucky and can find anything in stock.
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>>1684602
Post your craigslist, budget and where you want to ride
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>>1684653
Fairdale? Salsa? All city? Merin usa? Marin?

>>1684828
Not the op but I was curious about this. I have a road bike and wanted an xc mtb. Didnt know if an air shock was necessary. Im not going over to the mtb park much. Whats the Marin one step better than bobcat trail? And should I go steel or AL?
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>>1684857
>Didnt know if an air shock was necessary
it isn't.
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>>1684683
ribble
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>>1684781
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/biking/best-hardtail-mountain-bike
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>>1684859
i know everyone says theyre shit and im still rolling around on a coil spring fork from 2014 on my diamondback sorrento beater.

I had heard the suntour xc line of forks were better.

How much more resistance to shocks does a basic rockshox provide compared to the top of the line suntour xc coil biatches?

I see there is a Scott Scale 970 Sram Sx here in 23" xxl frame....I might just impulse buy it this weekend

https://www.bikeexchange.com/a/hardtail-mountain-bikes/scott/mo/kansas-city/scott-scale-970-sram-sx-red-2021/211475717
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>>1684857
at the crazy high end of things, coil vs air is still a big debate and there are some great coilover forks and shocks that fuel the fire. At entry level and midrange I think the only coil forks left are the crappy Suntours, so air is the best choice. if you want to go rigid that's cool too but on the trails I ride in Oregon and Washington, anything more than green starts to suck on a rigid, at least on my oldass 26er. Too many roots and rocks and I just skitter everywhere. Although I haven't tried the Jones truss bike, which is supposed to be a great trail bike because of how crazy rigid it is.
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>>1684541
Grail AL 7 or CF SL 8?
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>>1685026
grizl
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>>1684908
stop thinking about it. Just ride.
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>>1685196
tech specs matter especially for mountain bikes
that scott scale looks alright, no dropper post though
set the tires up as tubeless
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>>1684908
I replaced my shitcoil fork for a RST First air fork.
I was pretty happy with it and the price isn't that high xompared to other air forks
I also weigh 100 kg so they're robust.
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>>1685215
I'll probably get the scott scale and add a dropper post later if needed. I don't really do down steep hills here so we'll see if I need it after a few hundred miles on it
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>>1684908
MSRP on that bike is $1199, so that bike store is gouging, the fuckers. The SX derailleur is garbage, constantly breaks. Upgrade it to GX, preferably with the shifters. But honestly I'd look for a better deal, overpaying by $300 is bullshit. The $1500 range is when dropper posts start appearing on complete bikes.
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holy shit bros is riding a road bike really like growing wings and flying
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>>1685857
yes
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>>1685857
yes but it will not make you into a cute girl
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>>1685866
hinako doesn't have an ass that fat
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>get the latest rivbike email
>maxway has delayed their 2h22 frames to 2023 because of lack of material and backorders
steelbros, not like this...
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>>1685867
but she does have a chest that flat
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>>1685341
Fuck those guys I have a strict notover msrp policy whether it is a mtb or an xbox. We are in heat advisory season anyway (ride and finish before 11am or you heatstroke)
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Good deal or not? Been out of the game for 5+ years and riding a terrible steel clunker atm but not wanting to spend over a grand.8RJP0
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>>1686922
i would value it at more like $400 tops pre-covid, but it's probably hard to find a better deal than that. looks like it has some nasty scuffs in the paint. everything is at an older spec so you might lose out on resale value when it becomes old enough to be considered fully outdated. keep in mind you may or may not need to replace some things like the brake pads, cables, tires, inner tubes, chain, cassette, saddle and bar tape.
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Need a tourer. Is this a good deal for £325? Should the slight rust on the chainrings worry me?
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So I’m 6’5 and about 350 lbs, looking for a bike in the range of 200 dollars for me to get around a little better. Im hoping someone can help out, not sure how to post the Facebook market place but my zip code is 18503

https://scranton.craigslist.org/
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Looking for a trail bike for about 3000 bong dollars, I have too many bikes already so need one MTB to do all disciplines

Local trail centre is selling rental fleet 2021 Rekt Fuel EX8 XTs and I'm first on the list for one in my size

Has anyone bought an ex rental before? Any alternatives I can get before 2023?
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>>1686926
seems a little high to me - that's what, maybe 10 years old ?
lightly rusted chain is fine - make sure it shifts thru all the gears though as replacing those levers would be a pita / expensive.
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>>1686922
the new equivalent is pic related for $1000 which is better because of the newer gen groupset. A new claris Allez is also $1000.

I think 1/2 the price of a vaguely equivalent new bike is a very generous price for something several years old like that. Over $500 is ridiculous. I'd suggest saving a bit more and waiting for a deal on something new if its gonna be $680
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>>1686922
like yeah anon, if you have $1000, get a new claris rim brake bike with a carbon fork. It should be doable.
Things to angle for would be in-series (shimano) brake calipers, in-series crank, wheel/tire spec, or sora over claris, and paint you like.

Personally I would not want that cannondale unless it was a very good deal (~$300) because I don't like the colourscheme.
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>>1686926
It's the cheaper aluminium frame one. I wouldn't buy it (at that price). To me it's not desirable for that reason. Not to mention with a very cheap groupset.
A steel rim brake dawes galaxy on the other hand, would be an excellent buy, and would be a very good example of a dying breed of bike. I think they made fancy 653 tubeset ones even.
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>>1686955
https://allentown.craigslist.org/bik/d/harleysville-nishiki-maricopa-large-21/7357164003.html

the frame is a bit small for you and the stem is tiny, you would want to replace it with maybe a 130mm stem. need pedals and bar tape too. you're a big guy but the owner probably didn't cut the seatpost so it might still have enough adjustment range for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8FyZWpUvFM
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Is a used Giant Defy good for £575? Listed as being in good condition.

I think it's a Defy 2 or 3 2013, judging from the pattern on the saddle.
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>>1687104
https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/value-guide/product/3045078/
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Here's my Specialized Allez Comp I bought for cheap (1150€) back in 2017. It is an ok ride, but I think it's rather ugly and would like to upgrade to a 2000-3000€ bike. Anything besides Canyon Endurance CF SL 8.0 I should be looking at? Carbon frame / ultegra parts preferred, but I'm fine with other options as well. I prefer a not-too-aggressive geometry, so was thinking that endurance would be the way to go.
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>>1687106
the claimed weight on the canyon is pretty low, but the other color options than the stealth might add a couple of hundred grams. some of the weight difference could be in the tires, inner tubes, saddle, seatpost, not impossible to upgrade later. it's not all about the weight anyway. you could look at emonda ALR 6 or emonda SL 5/6.
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>>1687116
also the ultimate might be better if you don't mind the integrated bar and stem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GE-02ndJxI
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>>1687105
Thanks. Might just stick with my shitter for now.
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>>1687116
Thanks for the input. I have also looked at the Emonda, but was curious if it were on par with Canyon. I think I slightly prefer the Canyon's geometry with its straighter top tube.
Is there any real difference with how the ultimate feels vs the endurance? I'm not a racer, just like to do 50-100km rides a couple times a week, and I was worried the ultimate might be too aggressive. The Di2 Ultimate version does look lovely though, amazing colour and the geometry looks great
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>>1686964
>>1687000
Thanks bros, what about this for the same price (325)? It's 653 and Deore all over, looks a better deal to me.
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>have the money for a new bike
>want a new bike
>started a new job in another country where they have a good cycle to work scheme
>Office is still closed due to covid so I can't justify buying anything
>pain
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>>1687134
Yes
I dislike several things about that build.
Whether it's a good deal or not depends on condition, but it is a fantastic bike at heart. I would go for that for sure. Lovely colour too.
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>>1687145
Thanks for the review, I think I want this one.

For me, I'd probably put a more upright stem on, raise the saddle and sort out the wonky rack/fenders.

What about the build don't you like?
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>>1687150
the cockpit. The cheap STI shifters, the interrupter levers, the ergo shape bars. With a triple I would rather have a friction shifter. So seeing as that bike has downtube shifter bosses, I would put a front downtube shifter on the left and replace that lever with a regular brake lever. Lance styles.
I would delete the interrupter levers.

the pedals are shit, but that's not really a piece of spec. I don't like marathon tires either. I also would get a smaller granny chainring on that crank. 22 rather than [28?].

Aesthetically a silver stem and seatpost would look better but that's whatever. I'd also rather have better metal fenders, but that's just money. The rack atleast, is a great design, with the twin rails allowing panniers and use of the rack top.

>put a more upright stem on
depends on if you're going to be raising the saddle much, no? do you really want the bars much higher than the saddle?
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>>1687150
If you do want a taller stem, I suggest you get one that points up, like the dirt-drop style on the left, rather than the trad 7 shape like a technomic.
I think they look better with a lot of rise, and it's more efficient, and removes a sharp bump from right there.

You could also look for a stem that has a canti brake stop in it. Those are very cool.
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>>1687152
I may well go full bar ends depending on how beat up the STIs are.

I like my saddle quite high as I get bad knees otherwise, so the bars probably have to come up to match.

Personally don't mind those pedals - nice if I need to nip anywhere in normal shoes, good if I want to clip in for actual touring
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How well do old bikes compare to new ones? Someone in my area is selling an '08 Giant Defy Advanced Team, which reportedly detailed for $5.5k, for just under a grand.
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>>1687330
Retailed*
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>>1687330
Newer bikes usually have disc brakes, additional tire clearance, and meme aero tube shapes. The main thing is tire clearance. That bike probably has a max clearance of 700x23 if you're running c13 or c15 (13 or 15 mm internal rim width) wheels. I'm not sure if it even has enough for 700x23 on a c17 wheel. Newer bikes can easily clear 700x28 (and often 32), which makes a big difference in comfort and only a small difference in speed, except for rough roads where 28 is faster. Otherwise, great bike if there isn't any damage. Problem is telling if there's damage. Used carbon is risky like that.
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>>1687330
I don't agree that tire clearance, for road riding, is a big issue on a road bike, outside of certain niches like if you actually have gravel sections on your route or live in the country. Older road bikes will almost all fit 25mm tires, if not 28s, and that's absolutely fine for road riding, if not ideal.

The real distinction will be the standard crank vs a compact or semi-compact you'd get today. You don't get as low hill gears. Personally I think that's very bad. If you live somewhere flat maybe it's tolerable. You can change it of course but cranks aren't cheap.

And the real issue, isn't age, it's condition. A nice road bike from 2008, sold cheap, probably has all the parts quite well worn. It's not going to work as well as a new bike simply because it's very worn. And if you did buy it there would probably be quite a lot of work you'd want to do bringing it back to spec. If you're uninterested in doing work on it, i'd put the $1000 towards a NEW entry level claris/sora bike with a carbon fork, which will be a bit heavier, but actually will give you lower gears, and function smoother simply from being new.
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$85 from an lady.

Yep it's a Mercian and yep it's worth $GGGGG's
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>>1687430
ahem could we see a large picture please sir
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>>1687342
>>1687397
Thanks for the insight.
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Is this a good deal?
Bought this bike off an old lady with about 250 miles on the frame - parted it out and built up as follows. Added the Look full carbon fork (NOS) and a fun 1x drivetrain.

- Reynolds 853 Frame (very, very clean - no dents)
- SRAM build (Rival RD, Force shifters, Force brakes - all less than 100 miles)
- Thomson seatpost/stem
- Fizik handlebars
- Fabrik saddle
- NOS FSA SLK Carbon crankset w/44T ring
- Ultegra R8000 rear cassette (new)
- Mavic Cosmic UST wheels (50 miles, a few scratches in brake track that have been professionally sanded down - zero issues)
- Brand new Gatorskin tires (10 miles)
- Gold bling KMC chain
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>>1687578
That absolute fucking moron ruined the bike. Pic related is what it started out as. He turned a really nice bike into a monstrosity. He somehow managed to replace every part with something worse. It is worth nothing.
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>>1687578
>>1687631
Wait, it's possible to replace a threaded for with a threadless?
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>>1687635
As long as the steerer tube is the right diameter and you replace the headset, it's doable.
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>>1687636
>it's doable
but...?
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https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/
is anything this site sells worth getting? i know absolutely 0 about bikes but they look like a style over substance company to me
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>>1687631
Wow. That looks significantly better.
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>>1687635
He's probably using an adapter, they look decent but i kinda don't like the idea of them. I like quills
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>>1687647
Once upon a time they were a good bike company but looking through that website is just depressing. Buy something cheap from ribble if you are a bong looking for an entry level bike that's solid
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>>1687631
that is super nice but in truth his fucked up version does probably ride better. looks really shit tho.
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>>1687647
don't buy a raleigh this side of the millenium. what is your budget and what sort of riding do you intend to do?
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>>1687647
they're very low end. most of this applies to raleigh as well:
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/a20049269/6-reasons-to-avoid-walmart-bikes/

to get into cycling as an adult you should be prepared to spend a bit more money on a more serious bike from a top brand. it will feel much nicer to ride and you'll also be spending money on accessories and maintenance so you don't want the bike to be so cheap that you end up thinking you should just run it into the ground rather than keeping up with the maintenance.
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>>1687673
i don't want to say general riding and get laughed at by the anons/recommended a gravel bike, but i live in a mostly roaded area with occasional bits of rough terrain i'd like to visit. budget: completely new so i've no clue of the price ranges
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>>1687578
for $1250, hell no. compared to brand new bikes it might be decent in terms of pure spec but it's an unaesthetic hodgepodge build that won't hold its value after covid is done. the other week there were a couple of really nice modern bikes listed for $600 each on craigslist. for $1000+ used i imagine there would be better options out there if you're patient.
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>>1687687
>bike from a top brand
I've always been told, for as long as I've been hanging around /n/, that brand doesn't matter; it's all about the components.
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>>1687698
it's poorfag cope. even with aluminium frames there are many ways they could be inferior. the build quality of wheels can vary a lot as well, the top brand wheels don't go out of true or break spokes unless you abuse them. they can also cut corners with the components, you have to look closely at the spec sheet. don't sell your soul just to save a few hundred bucks at most for a bike that might be a kg heavier, have a misaligned frame, quick release disc brake wheels instead of thru axle, etc.
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>>1687698
also the brand doesn't matter as much if you're choosing between trek and cannondale for example, but if it's a cynical cheapskate boomer brand like bikesdirect whose only selling point is the price then it matters a lot.
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>>1687690
so the general spectrum for bikes is this:


<--- road oriented offroad oriented -->
road bike | cx bike | gravel bike | hardtail

If you're mostly riding roads a hardtail (front-suspension mountain bike) is a stupid decision because it will be slow and feel shit.

So assuming you want a suspensionless bike with drop bars, your choice is between road, cx, and gravel.

If you intend to do a substantial amount of riding on seriously rough / borderline mountainbike paths and trails you probably want a gravel bike. I doubt this is the case.

Now the decision between CX and road basically hinges on two factors -- how much will you ride off-road and how 'rough' is rough terrain? If you're on sustrans/national cycle network type routes then you may not need a CX bike. I ride my road bike (which has thinner tyres than most road bikes have today) on some woodland paths and old railway lines without too much trouble. It can be a bit sketchy at times but it makes you a better cyclist. However if you really feel you need the offroad capabilities a CX bike will handle better on rough and loose ground and the higher bottom bracket will stop you slamming your pedals into tree roots and ending up eating dirt.

Don't fall into the meme of buying an off-roady bike for 'flexibility' if 95% of the time you're going to be riding on roads. CX bikes are not terrible on road but nothing is quite like a true road bike which will be faster, handle better, and make you enjoy your cycling more. Best to get a road bike and borrow your mate's mountain bike once a year than buy a gravel bike that will be lethargic on tarmac.

I would say that about 500 quid is a good amount of money to get a very respectable entry-level road or cx bike (depending on what you choose). You can spend less than this and still get a good bike but as other anons have said it really is better to spend a bit more money to get something you're proud of and are going to look after.
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>>1687712
anon you're a guru. you've actually just saved me 10 hours of dumb question asking and lurking when you didn't have to at all. thank you very much
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>>1687712
There is absolutely no reason for anyone, and particularly a newbie, to get a CX bike unless they are planning on riding cyclocross.
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>>1687714
no problem at all if you're starting to have a better idea of what sort of bike would suit you and how much you're willing to spend myself or other folks here can perhaps point you in the direction of some specific bikes that might suit you.

although i suggested 500 quid as an entry level price point you should not treat this as gospel.

in the current market if you spend much less on a new bike you will probably get a shitbox unfortunately, unless you find a cracking deal. a few years ago you could get a fantastic new bike from a serious brand for as little as £350 so long as you were prepared to put up with last gen components, but that just doesn't seem possible these days. so if 500 is too much of a stretch you should look into buying second hand. a bit of a minefield for a new cyclist but you can get lovely bikes for very little money if you're prepared to plough hours of your life into eBay. when you're buying second hand you should also be willing to learn bike maintenance because more likely than not things will break or need adjustment. I bought a '97 steel bianchi a couple years ago for about 280 quid and while i adore it and ride it most days owning it has definitely made me a better mechanic :-)

on the other hand, if you've got more money to spend, every hundred quid more as far as £2000 or so will get you a significantly better bike. For not much more than a grand you can get a bottom-spec Ribble or a Canyon Endurace which is a fantastic bike and for a grand and a half you can get an Allez Sprint which I'm pretty sure people have won professional bike races on.
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>>1687718
they ride pretty well on road, are super versatile off road and can even handle tame singletrack, and are normally priced fairly sensibly. in my opinion if every normie who bought a halfords 'hybrid' hardtail went and got a CX bike instead cycling would be much more popular.
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>>1687723
CX is for CX racing, it comes with compromise from strict UCI rules and only intended for riding a single CX heat at once with supporting staff and team around you.
What you are talking about are actually the gravel bikes that ride well on road as well on singletrack, they have bosses for bottle holders and racks, have the option to use fenders.
Know this, racing bikes are for racing, they are shit for everyday use. CX is for CX racing, gravel bike is for everyday use.
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>>1687724
gravel bikes have bad geometry for road riding
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>>1687725
you have bad geometry for thinking
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>>1687727
would you seriously suggest a gravel bike to a new cyclist who probably is going to spend 80-90% of the time on roads?
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>>1687728
Yes. I do as well.
They are great for new cyclists, good on climbs, take potholes, large cracks and curbs like champs and can be fitted to carry a lot.
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>>1687730
i recommend that new cyclists learn to cycle around potholes. if you want to slam into potholes go buy a carrera vengence from gary in the pub.
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>>1687731
And you expect a newbie to perfectly avoid everything in an instant? How stupid are you?
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>>1687733
I think it's patronising to recommend that new cyclists buy a bike that 'goes easy' on them. I'm sure anon knows how to ride a bike and is sensible enough to ride cautiously while they get to grips with things. In any case, a CX bike can definitely eat the odd pothole without too much trouble, though it's not something to make a habit of.
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>>1687723
>cyclocross bikes are normally priced fairly sensibly

>>1687722
Please show me where the fuck you find a decent road/cx/gravel bike for £500.

>>1687725
>>gravel bikes have bad geometry for road riding
>recommends a cyclocross bike instead
Honestly, this anon doesn't know what they're talking about. Be wary of anything they say.
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>>1687735
> Please show me where the fuck you find a decent road/cx/gravel bike for £500.

Most online retailers have their entry level 'real' road bike for sale for about 500 quid. I believe it is still possible to find last-gen entry-level CX bikes for similar money.

A CX bike is objectively better for road riding than a gravel bike. I'm astonished this is a contentious point.
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>>1687725
most of them are basically just road bikes with half a degree slacker geometry, wider tire clearance, rack/fender mounts, possibly a more compliant seatpost and mild suspension gimmicks. they ride better than anything else on roads short of dedicated road bikes and they ride especially well on rougher roads, unpaved roads and cobbles.
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>>1687736
like what lmao? inb4 some decathlon or similar turd bike. priced have been jacked up by at least like $100 with covid and even before covid the CX bikes from reputable brands were more niche and starting at like $1500. ribble CX AL with sram apex 1x is £1399 and i think it's probably about to be discontinued because CX is a niche sport and they have newer gravel bikes. ribble CGR AL (more like a gravel/allroad bike, the cross/gravel/road name is just marketing speak with them touting its versatility) starts at £999 for the most basic builds, one with tiagra and the other a flat bar sram apex build. the new ribble gravel AL with shimano GRX starts at £1599.
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>>1687736
and CX bikes are said to have twitchier geometry to tune them for nimble handling at slower speeds on CX courses rather than stable handling at higher speeds on roads, and the CX bikes from some brands (generally older frame designs) have a stupidly high bottom bracket for obstacle clearance and to avoid pedal strike (not a problem with modern clipless pedals), and purebred CX race bikes might not have rack/fender mounts and the design of the main triangle might be compromised to make the bike easier to carry on your shoulder
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>>1687798
don't be an elitist. a vitus or a triban is a good bike for a new cyclist. they ride well, and current claris is as good as top end groupsets from twenty years ago.

that said the more i look the more i see that i probably was a bit low on my price recommendation (fuck me bikes are expensive these days). the 600 to 700 region is probably a better entry-level sweet spot because you can get a bottom spec Allez or Defy or similar which are very nice bikes.
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>>1687815
you're still lowballing the price, the allez is £799

https://www.specialized.com/GB/en_GB/shop/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/allez/c/allez#/sort:ss_price:asc

the vitus for £549.99 i guess is just about acceptable if you absolutely must save the couple of hundred pounds

the £599.99 triban RC120 has microshift not claris
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>>1687816
also the claimed weight for the vitus razor claris is 10.33 kg (size medium) whereas the allez 2020 according to the road.cc reviews weighs 9.66 kg (size 56cm), the weight difference alone is nothing to scoff at, people pay big bucks to save a few hundred grams
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>>1687578
god what a fucking retard
I was about to defend him and say old bikes are often totally shot and warrant rebuilds but he bought it complete and basically nos... and even got rid of the fork
deserves a bullet.
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>>1687647
literally 2

https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/strada-city/?attrMarketingColor=Black%20and%20Blue
this is not ideal but it's an ok comfy-spec entry level hybrid

or this
https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/ti-raleigh-anniversary-edition-bicycle/?attrMarketingColor=Red

everything else is shit
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>>1687712
the big difference between casual suited bicycles and serious bicycles is not versatility, or tire clearance. It's relaxed fit, head tube length.
CX bikes technically are as aggressive as road race bikes.
Endurance road bikes have much more relaxed fits than CX bikes (and often as much tire clearance). They are more suited to normies. Gravel bikes also technically should have a more relaxed fit than a race bike, any kind of race bike. In reality, the distinctions between those genres, and what bike mfg call them, CX, gravel, endurance road, 'adventure bikes' are totally blurred. It's essentially meaningless semantics to argue about which is suitable for whom.
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>>1687833
>this is not ideal but it's an ok comfy-spec entry level hybrid
for just a bit more at £800 you can get a cannondale quick 3 which is so much nicer
https://www.cannondale.com/en-gb/bikes/active/fitness/quick/quick-3
https://www.cannondale.com/en-gb/bikes/active/fitness/quick/quick-womens-3-remixte

if you're paranoid about the carbon fork or you're a stingy jew you could look at quick 4/5/6 for £700/£600/£500
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>>1687712
>>1687690
The vital issue for noobs getting a road-esque bike, is simply
>can this bike, fit to me correctly for saddle height, have less than 10cm saddle-bar drop
If you're not sporty or flexible, maybe that's 5, or maybe it's 0.

No one who gets on a road bike for the first time is going to actually want more than 10cm.

Now it is technically possible to setup all bikes with more bar rise, through extreme measures, but you don't want to buy an aggressive bike and then stick a huge silly flexy stem on it and have to recable everything to reach it. The reason why casuals/normies don't like drop bars is they don't like riding much bar-drop. But for some reason we hardly even mention this. It seems to all be about tire size.
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>>1687838
£225 is a huge bump up.
>so much nicer
It's really not.

It's past diminishing returns. Both have very similiar drivetrains, with a sensible subcompact double spec. Actually the shimano crank on the Raleigh is better. Both have tektro hydro brakes. The 8 vs 9 speed is a non issue. Both mechs/shifters are good. It's a quality increase but not a significant one. You get good tires with both of them. One is just sportier one comfier.

I do think the carbon fork is a good bump up but those thicc 650 tires are a good cope for it. The weight difference is less than 1kg. Either bike is a good buy but the Raleigh is actually better value.
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>>1687846
this is ridiculous, like saying a camaro zl1 is as good as a porsche because it has 650 hp. it looks good on paper but try them in real life and it's not even close. and £225 is not a lot of money in most contexts, even people who are massive fuckups manage to find money to spend on gambling and drugs, you can come up with the money in one way or another.
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>>1687850
It's not like that at all anon. What specifically do you think the big difference will be?
and £225 IS a lot of money in most contexts.
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>>1687855
you're giving straight up bad advice, it's well known that raleigh is a shitty brand whereas cannondale is a top brand. the raleigh will at best be "good enough" as a meh-tier normie pleb commuter bike, not as a fun bike for leisure. as for the £225, you could try quitting cigarettes and stop going to the pub and to football matches as often or whatever it is that you low class brits like to do. i'm done wasting my time on you until the original anon comes back and asks for more specific advice.
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>>1687866
Do you even have a bicycle at all yet, projecting nobike fixielad?

You are fucking retarded. Expensive cannondales are FAMOUS for being badly made and causing real issues.

It's the worst possible example you could give, and you don't understand the spec which is what actually matters in this case.
What exactly do you think is unfun about cruising around on some 'decent enough' entry level hybrid? Because that's what they both are. They both have very similar good enough spec, and nice tires. Neither of them are that good. They're both fine.

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>>1687866
>don't buy bicycles with good spec from low-prestige brands because the frames might have problems with them like the bottom bracket shells being poorly engineered
>buy a cannondale
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>>1687855
>£225 IS a lot of money in most contexts.
Genuinely stop being poor.
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>>1687884
what did you have for dinner yesterday?
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>>1687890
Prawns and smoked salmon on wheaten bread.
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>>1687904
>a fake sandwich that doesn't even make sense
poorfag
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>>1687647
I bought a good step thru from Raleigh USA but thats a different company now. Raleigh Detour.
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>>1687647
This one looks cool enough

https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/pioneer-grand-tour/crossbar/
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>>1687905
Not everything with bread is a sandwich you philistine.
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>>1687905
You can put anything inside a baguette.
Anything.
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>>1687905
Anything
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reminder that this website is 18+
reminder that most hobbies cost money, it is specifically cycling that attracts lowlifes who "need" some form of transportation and want to pay as little as possible rather than "want" to enjoy it, and who hate on people with nicer bikes as a coping mechanism
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>>1687931
That diagram is wrong. The median wage is about £30k.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1002964/average-full-time-annual-earnings-in-the-uk/
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>>1687920
Everything between two pieces of bread is a sandwitch. Everything else on top of a piece of bread is an open sandwitch.
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>>1687647
Raleigh USED to be one of the UK's greats, but it failed to innovate, and got torn to pieces. The new owners are the dutch behind ghost, so they CAN put out a good bike, but that doesn't mean you're going to get one.

>>1687687
Raleigh, much like Diamondback is/was a big supplier to big box stores. It's important to avoid them, but pretty easy to. And UK is NOT the same as US here.

>>1687698
That is correct.

If you have a chance to test ride, the most prospective one is probably the Grand tour. This version has no suspension.

https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/pioneer-grand-tour/

But there's nothing particularly special about it. Treat it as a baseline and check out other options.

>>1687866
>>1687850
What the fuck is this dumb /o/ comparison? And Cdale has really fallen off the pace for at least the last 5 years after getting bought out by schlockmeisters Dorel/Pacific, and dumping all their US operations. They're still ahead of raleigh, but don't really deserve to be mentioned in the top tier. It's not like the UCI stickers they pay for is of any interest to anon?
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>>1687953
>beans on toast is a sandwich
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>>1687959
Yes.
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Im about to buy a Bianchi C-Cross, because there are a lot of light offroad trail around here and I want to start doing miles on a bycicle since I didnt properly ride one in years.

I still dont get why they push the disk brakes but I guess they look cool.
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>>1687970
If you're actually going off road, you need them.
If you bought a gravel to be comfy on the road, you didn't need a gravel but a touring bike.
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>>1687970
That bike is not for off-road, not even light gravel.
It is a city fitness bike for riding around the block. If you want offroad trails get a gravel bike or a hardtail alloy XC MTB.
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>>1687996
but that IS a hardtail alloy XC MTB
just a very cheap one
perfectly adequate for light offroad
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>>1688001
>700-750 eur price range
>Cheap

So how do you call those mountain bike that are sold for around 300 euros?
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>>1688014
bike-shaped objects
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>>1688001
It's a hybrid POS or as they are called in Europe, a "cross" bike. Not a XC, not even near, in fact very very far from it.
Made the mistake before going with a bike like that only to find out it is shite and having to buy a complete new bike actually fit for my needs.
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>>1687931
reminder that you literally don't even have a bicycle and i have many
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>>1688038
Give'em back, Tyrone!
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>>1688029
Bruh thats your problem. I dont need a cross country mountain bike. I will do more asphalt than offroad and I'm not gonna larp as a racer. I also added a rear rack to carry some shit while touring around. Tomorrow I'll go pick it up and post some picks.
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>>1687078
A 21 inch frame wont fit 6ft5. Hes a larper anyway Ive recced him like 6 bikes dont waste your time
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>>1687935
still plenty to pay for a nice bike if you aren't reckless with your spending on other things
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>>1688098
yeah it's not the easiest to find something decent for $200 though. i used the default scranton craigslist, might get some different results on craigslist with the zip code and x distance. better to come up with more money but i get wanting to save money if it's just a temporary bike until he gets down to a weight that won't be too sketchy on a fancier bike. and yeah i think he's the same anon as >>1687295.
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Would I regret buying something like a CAAD or Contend over a SuperSix or TCR? Assuming I had the same wheels and groupset and finishing kit regardless. How much is the final bike going to differ? Would I be a fool not to pay a little bit extra at the outset to have a carbon frame, and how much weight would I stand to save?
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>>1688132
The frame material really doesn't matter that much. Imo a CAAD with nice wheels and a nice groupset is going to be a great bike for almost any roadie
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>>1688076
Sure, pay $700 for a cheapo Suntour coil fork
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Ordered pic related for late august for 580 euros. Shimano hydraulics etc. It was the only medium sized they had. Also beginner in pro mountain bikes is it a good buy?
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>>1688132
bikes at that level are nice, it's up to you really. a wheel upgrade might make more sense than getting a higher tier frame but with stock wheels. if you're a beginner, going straight to a full carbon bike might be a bit overkill, but it depends on your financial situation. getting a slightly cheaper bike now might help you save money for another new bike in 3-5 years or so with next gen components and with potential innovations/incremental gains in frame/wheel design, maybe 12 speed groupsets will be the norm for high end bikes, maybe disc brakes will be improved, maybe the price of higher grade carbon fiber will come down, etc.
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>>1688169
>bikes at that level are nice
btw i mainly mean high end aluminium like CAAD13 or allez sprint comp. but a more basic bike like CAAD optimo or contend would also be a sensible beginner option, less worry about damaging it etc
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>>1688159
It's a hardtail. If you're looking for "pro" that should answer your question
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>>1688159
>>1688228
Also the frame geo looks more like a MTB looking cross, not a true MTB. Fork looks fishy
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>>1688076
Here it is. I already had fun this afternoon trying it around for 10 minutes. Feels like the gears will not allow for extreme speed, but at least climbs will be easier since I'm out of shape (not fat but I lack legs).

It's so much better compared to the basic mountainbike I used to ride ages ago.
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>>1688230
>>1688228
Shop owner told me is for both which is what I want it to be desu since I want to use it for mountain forests with hills etc.
Good or bad?
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>>1688244
My bad didn't meant pro pro bike just a serious one compared to conventional bikes.
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looking for a commuter bike for an 8 km (5 mile) commute, mostly on paved roads

there's a local store that carries Trek bikes and I've been looking at the, Trek FX 3, Trek DS 3 and Trek Verve 3 (or others in the lineup), anyone have any experience with those or know what the real differences are between them?
also does anyone know how they compare to the Scott Sub Cross 30 or the Cube Nature (Pro) Allroad?
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>>1688245
yes, it's a good starter mountain bike. as you get better you will want to buy a more aggressive fork for going down crazy ass shit but if you are going to pedal on 95% of trails on a mountain that'll work great. You'll notice the mech discs will be a little soft but that's the way it is.

oh and take off the kickstand when you get it
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>>1688247
you would probably be happiest with the trek DS3 but at that price you could buy a cooler bike from someone like, say, Jamis that would work better for commute.

Do you need a shock in the front? would be a lot cooler if you didn't...

Google Marin Presidio or Marin nicasio is that more of what you'd like?
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>>1688249
>at that price you could buy a cooler bike from someone like, say, Jamis
problem is I live in Narnia and only have a few bike stores within a reasonable distance and most of them have no inventory as they're all sold out
I've got Conway, Focus, Kalkhoff, Marin, Fuji and Reid dealers nearby but they're all mostly sold out in this price range and size
looked at the Marin Presidio 2 and Nicasio but in my local area they're about 50% more expensive than the other bikes mentioned so a little out of the price range
so basically it's gonna be a Trek, a Scott or a Cube
>Do you need a shock in the front?
do I? I'll be going over curbs and stuff but I won't be going on trails or anything
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>>1688253
>>Do you need a shock in the front?
>do I? I'll be going over curbs and stuff but I won't be going on trails or anything

then definately no, you wont need a shock and it will be counterproductive.

look up Poseidon bikes. anything there you like? Because the DS3 is 900 USD here.

Also check out ribble, wiggle, performancebike and bikeexchange they will all ship a bike to you.

If you don't want drop bars you'll want a bike that looks like that presidio or the cannondale bad boy, etc.

and you can totally go 15 miles or so to work on a fuji nevada you'll just have more fun on a bike with a frame like a road bike that has nice wide-ish tires.
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>>1688257
with shipping to Narnia and import taxes I'm not seeing the same prices you are
the DS 3 is ~$1100 here which is the same as the FX 3
the Scott Cross Sub 30 is about $940 and the Cube Nature Allroad the same with the Pro being $1270, the Marin Presidio 2 about $1380 and the Nicasio $1620
I could import bikes myself but with shipping prices and import duties it won't be any cheaper

if I don't want the shocks, isn't the FX 3 a better choice than the DS 3? they otherwise seem pretty similar
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>>1688132
There is a SIGNIFICANT amount of difference in the geometry of those bikes. Make sure you get the one that fits you and your riding.

LIGHTWEIGHT/CLIMBER
AERO
ENDURANCE

and CRIT
>>1688159
Suspension is RST Blaze-ML 100mm. Coil spring, mechanical lockout.

Give us a link to full specs so we can take a look, but I'd guess its the lowest end of "use this on an actual mountain" class.

>>1688247
FX3 and verve are the obvious choices there, Pick the one that matches how agressive you're riding. Verve is more upright and casual. The suspension on the DS are garbage. Extra price probably isn't worth it.

Your distances are so short that you could even consider things as laid back as the electras. Not that I'm suggesting you give up your testicles.

Scott and cube are very competitive but you probably don't want suspension. Look at the Cube Travel series or Scott sub cross 50 for a commuter,
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>>1688279
thanks will be going for the FX 3 I think
kind of prefer the look of the Cube but it's more expensive, heavier and has front suspension
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>>1688292
I actually prefer the FX1 for that use because of the extra performance of disc brakes aren't going to help you any, and it's like 40 percent cheaper. The drivetrain is significantly worse on the 1 though, so it's not a straight tradeoff.

There should be rigid cubes and scotts, but they might be sold out. `
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>>1688363
I like disc brakes though but maybe the FX 2 is worth a consideration
and yeah the Cube SL Road is the alternative but you guessed it it's completely sold out
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>>1688279
Here's the exact picture of the bike and the specs

Hardtail frame, AL6061-T4 / T6, , , internal gear cables
Size 44/48/52 cm
RST Blaze-MLC fork, 100 mm, 30 mm stanchions, mechanical lock, adjustable preload
Shimano Altus FD-M2020-TS Front Derailleur
Shimano Acera RD-M3100-SGS Rear Derailleur
Shimano ST-EF505 gear lever
Medium Friction Shimano BB-UN101
Shimano FC-MT101-2 36-22T disc arm
Shimano CS-HG200-9 11-36T cartridge
Shimano chain CN-HG53
Shimano HB-TX505 Front Center, center lock
Shimano FH-TX505-8 Rear Center, center lock
Wreaths Cross X-6, 622-21 x 20.5mm
Kenda 60-622 tires (29 × 2.35), K1153, 30TPI
Shimano BR-MT200 / BL-M505 hydraulic disc brakes, 180/160 mm.
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>>1688248
>oh and take off the kickstand when you get it

How come? Is it for weight reduction or something?
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>>1688445
https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/7413/kickstands-and-mountain-bikes
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>>1688159
>>1688443
Congartulations, you paid nearly 600€ for Shimano Acera and coil fucking fork
Don't be surprised that we won't praise you for paying 600€ for a 200€ bike
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>>1687722
https://www.raleigh.co.uk/gb/en/pioneer-grand-tour/crossbar/
Many people here seem to be suggesting this and it seems pretty spiffy for the price, though I know you recommended me to steer clear of Raleigh. If it isn't too much trouble could you spoonfeed me as to why this would be a bad purchase? I have decided that a road bike is what I'm looking for. I didn't realise how specific each type of bike is for terrain and so vastly overestimated how much off road stuff I'd really be doing.
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>>1688521
>a 200€ bike
Bullshit. You're not getting that for 200€ anywhere retail.
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>>1688527
Looking at the main parts that is a common BSO, going for 200€
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>>1688523
That's a roadster, not a road bike. And a not a very nice one.
It's heavy, but at least they're listing a a weight.
Rear derailleur is Shimanos cheapest named groupset and they don't even list the front derailleur. No mention of brakes either, so I'm assuming they're shit as well.
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>>1688530
A 200€ BSO is much shittier than that.
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>>1684541
>ribble

>Brand-X Road Bike

Is it actually worth getting this since every other budget bike has been sold out for months or is that just a waste of money?
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>>1688536
>ribble
looks like decent bikes

>Brand-X Road Bike
looks like a BSO
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>>1688521
No way it amounts to that also the other option for me is a Cannondale Trail 7 at a larger size which isn't ideal at all. The supply in my country has completely run dry its either the bike i showed or nothing and what's the fucking point on waiting for next year since we are going to have another lockdown
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Welp, my new Emonda has gone back to Trek for a creaking bottom bracket
Such is life
; _ ;
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>>1688571
Also from the looks of it its upgradable so if there's a lot of fuss with the fork I can change it. Any suggestions for good types?
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>>1688577
Trek? More like Drek
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>>1688577
Shoulda gone threaded
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>>1688523
it's a fruity upright bike for casuals like what a boomer or a fat chick would ride a couple of km into town
>i live in a mostly roaded area with occasional bits of rough terrain i'd like to visit
this sounds like you'd enjoy a more serious road/gravel bike like what they ride on GCN on youtube
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>>1688536
ribble is actually quite good these days. they had a reputation of being a bit dodgy from back when used to sell random parts and accessories as a competitor to planet X basically but since 2019 they've been transforming into a proper bike brand with good design and working with quality manufacturers and investing in racing and advertising. now with covid though they're still having quite long delivery times on some of their bikes.
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>>1685866
>will not make you into a cute girl
what's the fucking point then
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My Windsor tourist blew a tube (I over inflated) and got a replacement tube to the specs of the bike listing but 700c tubes were too big (it’s 700 x 32). Should I bother buy more 700c tubes and try with those or just get a 26” tube?
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>>1688781
too big huh? this is a common mistake. First time i got a replacement tube i thought it was too big as well.
You tried to fit the tube inside the tire, off the wheel right? Or some such nonsense? Look up how to change a tube. It's NOT too big. You're just doing it wrong and there's some fuckery involved.
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>>1688789
I took off the tire, put a bit of air in the tube, put it around the wheel, but it was always sagging at the bottom. I fit the tire around the wheel and inflated it thinking that once it pressurized fully it would adjust, but there’s a visible lopsidedness in the tire and it persisted when rolling the bike. Still, I will do as you said and watch some videos on the matter.
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>>1688794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_2dAQvxvI
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/out/ fag here. I want to use my local rail trail to bike since I am too much of a fat fuck to walk the distance I want to go (300lbs I am working on it). I eventually want to add saddle bags to this so I can take enough gear to go bike camping as well with my hammock. I dont mind saving a bit for a bike that is worth it but I will be honest with you anons I know nothing about bikes at all other than I know how to ride one. Can anybody point me in the right direction for what I want? I wont be mountain biking but a fair bit of its use will be on rougher terrain & gravel vs riding on pavement.
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>>1688794
unless you have a 27" tube (which ARE larger) you are definately doing something wrong
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>>1688814
I would recommend a Marin or Kona rigid (no suspension) steel hybrid (relatively fat tires), with a bent for touring (fork mounts for racks).
A Kona Dr Dew or Marin Muirwoods would be great.

Those chromoly frames are somewhat unique amongst hybrids in that they're comfier and better for your purpose.

A (cheaper) aluminium hybrid would be ok but not ideal. Beyond that you might look at drop bar gravel bikes, and touring bikes.
If your budget is sub $500, rather than around $1000+, I would strongly suggest looking used, and look at the rigid 90s mtb thread to see what kind of thing a lot of us ride. If you want recs on a bike like that, post your height and craigslist and I can make some.
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>>1688814
this would probably be the kind of thing you'd look at for a drop bar option. ~35mm tire clearance on a 700c bike is good enough for touring/ gravel/ fatties
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>>1688828
I am a poorfag so craigslist is the most likely option or my local bike shop. I live in the Jefferson City/Columbia MO Area outside of Jeff City.
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>>1688834
post the craigslist link and height lad
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>>1688523
14.7kg

It's a heavy, low end commuter. A lot of the shit on it, like the fenders, rack, stem, and chain guard make it more suitable for commuting, but add weight that will hurt ride quality you take it on anything but light duty hard pack offroad. Because they're vauge on some of their naming, theres a chance that some of their shit has poor QC. Test ride the thing if at all possible.

If you have used old 90's mtbs in your area, that would be lighter and better for offroad, but be worse as a commuter. But covid has fucked supplies.

>>1688582
It's not worth it financially to swap forks, unless someone crashes their bike and you get it for practically free. Fork is good enough to start with. This is a "ride it into the ground" sort of choice. Not a upgrade it as you get better choice.

>>1688781
Wait, what are the tube and tire sizes?
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>>1688582
Wait until you bend it like I did
Then I slapped an RST First air fork
But destroy your first
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>>1688838
It sounds heavy but to be fair I used to ride an early 00"s cross hybrid with fenders and rack that was about the same weight and that was perfectly fine and even fun to ride on gravel and smoother dirt trails.
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>>1688836
6ft 5in give or take I havent measured my height in years.
https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/d/bicycles/search/bia
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>>1689013
https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/bik/d/jefferson-city-schwinn-mountain-bike/7357527275.html
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https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/bik/d/jefferson-city-stromer-st1-ebke/7344859906.html
ohno ebikebros
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>>1689013
smaller frame size but nicer overall, maybe the sizing isn't as critical on mountain bikes as long as you don't feel overly cramped like you're riding a clown bike, the stem looks more forward than on the schwinn
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-louis-trek-21-speed-mountain-bike/7355448515.html
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>>1689013
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-charles-fuji-touring-series-iv/7341640874.html
For me, it would be this. This is an incredible deal. This bike is high end, in the perfect niche for you, and has practically never been ridden. The drivetrain wear is nonexistant and the factory dust stickers are still on. AND it's been recabled. AND it has a gorgeous paintjob. Like seriously go and get this right now.


the Schwinn the other anon linked is the next best buy. These also I wouldn't bother detailing because go and get the blue trek now.
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/arnold-vintage-26-bridgestone-city/7359338842.html
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-louis-specialized-hardrock/7339164473.html
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-louis-specialized-hard-rock-21/7338522090.html
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/belleville-mens-windsor-carrera-sport/7335952218.html
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-louis-jamis-27-speed-road-bike/7354749815.html

It's also worth saying, you're very tall, these bikes we've listed are all large or XL, but you're really an XXXL man. The only XXXL bikes available on your craigslist are pure skinny tire road bikes which would not be so good for your purpose. Making an XL bike fit you will not be that hard though. We can help you modify it for higher/ further forward bars and seatposts can just be very long. You just may have to re-cable some of the bike, which is often a good thing. It's fine. Don't worry too much about size.
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>>1689167
ooohhh actually hold up
the description for this is a totally different bike. I was just looking at the pics. If it's pic related get it.

The Fuji Touring described could also be good but i'd want to see pics to pay that much.
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>>1688849
>>1688838
Alright last question, should I change the Shimano CS-HG200-9 to something larger? I noticed most mtb have a larger one so I was wondering or does it also require to change the Shimano FC-MT101-2 36-22T as well?
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>>1689399
Do you want lower gears?
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>>1689403
Don't lower gears help climbing hills faster? If so yes.
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>>1689404
not exactly. It might help you climb hills slower.
why don't you ride it first and see if you actually struggle to get up hills because the gearing is already very low unless you're riding very steep hills
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>>1689405
Alright will do.
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>>1689399
I wouldn't touch the cassette yet
Ride it, figure out what you want to do with the range you have then start thinking about gearing
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>>1689405
>>1689406
even if you struggle with it, you might improve a lot in a matter of days/weeks as your body adapts and you figure out your saddle height and pedaling/pacing technique. a mountain bike should have low enough gears for most hills already on it.
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will I regret not getting drop bars right away as a commuter?
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>>1689567
some flat bar bikes like cannondale quick 3 are decent allrounders, you get a carbon fork and hydraulic disc brakes etc, it's not completely terrible like most of the cheaper flat bar bikes. a drop bar bike like trek domane al 2 is generally slightly faster, you get more varied hand positions and it's narrower so you can filter through traffic more easily. but it's very much a personal preference thing, and road bikes are arguably slightly overkill if you aren't doing like 20+ km rides on rural roads.
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>>1689570
posted earlier in the thread, really considering a Trek FX 3, it too has the carbon fork and hydraulic disc brakes
just read somewhere that some dude who bought it ended up selling it a year later for a drop bar bike as he felt limited by it
my commute is about 8km each way and only urban so probably shouldn't worry about it but made me wonder if I should be looking at a more road oriented bike
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Considering between a Trek Domane Al 5 and a Specialized Allez Elite. Going to use the bike as an all-round all-year road bike (commuting and cycling for fun).

The main difference I can see if that the Trek has a full Shimano 105 groupset (the Allez Elite is mostly 105), disc brakes, and is 600 euros more.

Any thoughts?
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>>1689580
if your budget allows, maybe look at allez sprint, emonda alr 5, caad13 to save some weight and gain in aero/stiffness/compliance. i checked the european websites and it seems there's not much to choose from if you prefer a high end bike with rim brakes. caad13 still has a rim brake version on the US website. but disc brakes are nice to have in wet weather and you don't wear down your rims like with rim brakes.

these are rim brake:
https://www.canyon.com/en-de/road-bikes/race-bikes/ultimate/cf-sl/ultimate-cf-sl-7/2751.html
https://www.canyon.com/en-de/road-bikes/race-bikes/ultimate/cf-sl/ultimate-cf-sl-8/2752.html
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Just bought a Nukeproof Digger. Anyone have any experience with this bike? Reviews are scant.
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>>1689612
Thanks for the recs. I'd eliminated the CAAD13 and Specialized due to their lack of rack mounts. Canyon bikes don't even seem to have mudguard eyelets (let alone rack mounts) which I need (I live in the UK so it rains a lot).
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>>1689873
Geta gravel bike, put on road tires
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>>1689890
Who gave you permission to share my secrets like that?
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>>1689873
I don't think I've seen road bikes with mudguards for years. Mine had them (installed by the previous owner) but they were shit and rattly and only allowed me to run 23s, so I took them off. Never looked back. I think most people just accept they're going to have to get a bit wet and maybe repack their headset bearing after 5 years instead of 15. If you're putting in any work on your rides you'll want a shower afterwards anyway.
>but
no. A performance/recreational road bike is really not practical for utility cycling, plus you'll wear it out sooner (so you can't use it for rides you actually want to do). I know you don't want to hear it, but I think you really are actually looking for two bikes. Telling yourself a fredsled can also be a grocery getter is pure cope.
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>>1689873
you can always get those road bike mudguards, the ones where the front one is attached on the downtube
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>>1689873
Check out the Portland Design Works origami fenders. They’re a pretty decent road bike fender solution. I used them to commute on my Allez.
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>>1689890
>>1689891
Looks like a promising idea, thanks.

>>1689909
I don't really give a shit about the added weight. I'm currently using a very heavy BSO so any road bike will be like a feather in comparison.

>>1689912
>>1689911
Thanks. I'll look into them.
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>>1689990
If you go with the gravel bike, look into SKS Speedrocker fenders
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>>1689873
>I live in the UK
could look at ribble as well although they have long wait times on a lot of their bikes
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>>1689990
I never mentioned weight you brain dead cunt
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I haven't ridden a bike for 10+ years but I bought myself and my GF k mart bikes. I even bought myself a women's one by mistake (k mart montreal). naturally it is broken weeks later, headset fell apart. I ordered a cane creek complete headset because my plan is to replace all the really shit parts on the bike with entry level stuff until it's reliable. is this a wild goose chase





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