How are highways primarily funded?
>>1683690In the USA, a gas tax supplemented by a state specific electric car registration fee. You pay about 50 cents per gallon in fed and state gas tax.
>>1683690With the blood of cyclists.
Most of their funding comes from income and property tax. Gas tax hasn't ever covered the cost of roads.
>>1683705her dashcam is facing the wrong waywhat a dumbass
>>1683690Loans & public debt>but... but... this is economically sustainableshut up antisemite
>>1683832Women always have to be the center of attention.
>>1683831>Gas tax hasn't ever covered the cost of roads.This. It's the same in my country. Car drivers complain that bicyclists "don't pay road tax" but in reality someone who pays tax and doesn't drive is subsidising people who do drive.
>>1683863Deflection. You use roads and don't pay for it.
>>1683863That, and bikes don't wear down the road even 1% as much as trucks and SUVs. So the city is saving money when they convert a car line to a bike lane.>>1683891You seem to struggle with reading comprehension. If you pay taxes, you're paying for roads and highways. If you pay taxes and don't use a vehicle, you're just subsidizing highways for the car drivers.
>>1683941You're still deflecting. You don't pay registration/tag fees that go to roads. You don't pay gas tax. You want to use the road, but don't want to pay for it.
>>1683942That's not deflecting. You seem to have a learning disability.None of the taxes you listed are enough to cover the enormous cost of highways, roads, policing and signage, etc. in USA.
>>1683970>None of the taxes you listed are enough to cover the enormous cost of highways, roads, policing and signage, etc.You're still deflecting by changing the subject.
>>1683891>You use roads and don't pay for it.The other anon explains this. Assuming we are legal citizens and work in the city where we live, we pay taxes which DO in fact pay for the roads, so yes we do pay for the roads we use as cyclists. Taxes aren't often earmarked for specific things. The city and state taxes I pay go into large pots of money and these pots fund the city and state budgets which include roads and highways. All our taxes (here in NYC anyways) go into the same pots. Hell half the time cities steal money from their own gas tax income to fund shortfalls elsewhere lol, it's why maintenance is deferred so often and our roads are crumbling. So in reality, even people paying the gas tax may not fully be paying for the roads they use, half their tax could be going to shortfalls in the education or health department budgets.
>>1684109>we pay taxes which DO in fact pay for the roadsYou don't pay license & registration fees, and you don't pay gas taxes, I covered this here: >>1683942
The new infrastructure bills are going to fund new highway construction less because there’s currently no reliable way to fund them
>>1683891>>1683941Just because you keep repeating the same fallacy won’t make it true. If you pay taxes and don’t drive, you’re subsidizing roads for the Cagers because gas tax isn’t nearly enough to cover the cost of roads.
>>1684274Then nobody "pays for roads" unless you are using literal toll roads.
>>1684324Ok, well why don't you tell me what you think is "relevant"?
>>1684113Sure, but you said we don't pay for the roads we use, but we pay taxes so I would say we do. If we want to nitpick specific fees:-Trucks which refuel at state lines may effectively not pay at all for the damage they cause to roads in their destination state.-Cross-state commuters fueling in their home state but traveling elsewhere pay no gas tax at their destination nor registration nor license fees-MANY covid transplants to my state (NY) do not change their registration and license after moving here with their car despite it being required by law. Any non NJ plate you can expect is illegally dodging these rules. They therefore do not pay the fees-Toll evasion happens a lot by all sorts of drivers. Cashless tolls means you can obscure your plate number and the toll fee won't ever get to you in the mail.-Trucks often illegally do not delcare their overweight status nor obey regulations on weight restrictions, causing undue damage to roads which cannot handle them, yet pay nothing as recompenseIt's good you brought this up, this was more fee doding then I thought I could list desu.
>>1684503No>>1684529>-Trucks which refuel at state lines may effectively not pay at all for the damage they cause to roads in their destination state.Trucks pay state and federal diesel fuel taxes. The federal taxes go toward maintaining federal roads (US Highways and Interstates). They also pay taxes on tires, which other vehicles do not pay.>Cross-state commuters fueling in their home state but traveling elsewhere pay no gas tax at their destination nor registration nor license feesDepends on the location, but yes it happens all the time. You're not the first person to consider this.>-MANY covid transplants to my state (NY) do not change their registration and license after moving here with their car despite it being required by law.That's a legal issue unrelated to this>-Toll evasion happens a lot by all sorts of drivers.Separate legal issue>-Trucks often illegally do not delcare their overweight status nor obey regulations on weight restrictionsSeparate issue, that is why states have weight stations and commercial vehicle enforcement though.
>>1684538So you only count taxes on fuel as valid? What about an electric car, or a gas car that is very economical thus pays less tax?
>>1684316The cagetroll is going to keep deflecting and spamming bullshit as long as you reply to him.Obviously if you pay taxes and don't drive you're subsidizing roads for car drivers, since most road funding doesn't come from fuel tax.
>>1684540Separate issue, but I am certain that the state will find a way to get money from electric vehicle owners.
>CAGERS! CAGERS! CAGERS! CAGERS!Reminder that the word "cagers" is a motorcycle thing and motorcyclists hate you every bit as much as car drivers do.
>>1684561every motorcyclefag i know hates cagers tho and is cool with bikefags2 wheels good4 wheels bad
>>1684573Opposite has been my experience. No one likes bicyclists
>>1684573Same. Too many motorcyclists get killed by cagers.
>>1684538>Trucks pay state and federal diesel fuel taxes. The federal taxes go toward maintaining federal roads (US Highways and Interstates). They also pay taxes on tires, which other vehicles do not pay.As I said, not in the destination state. By your own posts they are as much a so-called leech on the roads they use in the destination state as anyone else not paying gas taxes. > That's a legal issue unrelated to thisIdk, you brought up license and registration fees which are minimal anyways but I'm pointing out how people dodge them, sounds relevant to me.>Separate legal issueAgain, sounds relevant to me. Tolls pay the roads, people dodging the tolls means less money for the roads.>Separate issueSeparate but still related man. You brought up paying the roads, you can't ignore the factor of truck damage which is costly to repair.
>>1685009>As I said, not in the destination state.Varies by circumstance and location>Idk, you brought up license and registration fees which are minimal anyways but I'm pointing out how people dodge themAnd again, that's an unrelated legal issue>Tolls pay the roads, people dodging the tolls means less money for the roads.Toll evasion is a separate legal issue>You brought up paying the roads, you can't ignore the factor of truck damage which is costly to repair.Correct, which is why they pay diesel excise taxes and taxes on tires, which private cars do not pay
>>1684561motorcyclists have always been cool with bikers what are you talking aboutt.motorcyclefag
I remember when I lived in Alabama, at one point the state used funds from the Education budget to repair the highways.
>>1685218>>1684573yeah this is true, most moto guys even me like bikers and many of us tend to be bikers too,i own 2 road bikes in addition to my two motorcycles
>>1683690Is Venice as bad as they say?
>>1686028I doubt that. It's probably a setup similar to Michigan, where gas taxes pay for highways and also education.
>>1683891Cyclists have an average salary significantly above the peasantry. Higher salary entails more taxes. A certain percentage of tax revenue goes to roads, and this percentage is the same for all tax payers. Thus, the average cyclist pay more for roads than than does the average motorist.
>>1688219There are a number of taxes and fees bicyclists don't pay which are used for roads, which have already been outlined itt
>>1686121Gas tax has never been enough to fund roads. Roads have to depend on several other funding sources.
>>1688283Maybe there’s some way to get revenue from the 72% of all freight in the US being shipped by road.
>>1688283>Gas tax has never been enough to fund roadsIn their case, it's a balancing act between using state gas tax revenues for education vs. transportation