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André Chapelon's planned SNCF Class 232-01 4-6-4. Was planned to have a maximum speed of 150mph.
>>1636899I really hope some rich grenouille tries and revives it. Would be cash.
Addressing this fellow:>>1635473By what metric? Power per ton? Power per driven axle, factor of adhesion? Because by any metric known to me steam locomotives are inferior to electric traction.
>>1636908And to be on topic - steam HSR tank engine.
>>1636907Think with what Chapelon and Porta did with steam, you could easily have a fleet of highly efficient, high-speed steam locomotives that could also be smokeless and sparkless. But even steam like that would be seen as dirty and old fashioned. Of course it would never beat electric traction, but it could replace diesel.
>>1636925I would say a diesel locomotive designed to look like steam would be better. That would make it so engineers could see better and increase efficiency with the same sleek design
>>1636942Isn't the problem with diesel is that its days are numbered? Porta showed you could have steam engines (such as those he designed for the Cuban railway) that could run on any waste material (in the case of Cuba, Bagasse, a waste product of sugarcane). In general, it would be nice to see streamliners return to their Art Deco and Streamline Moderne period of style, they were sleek, colorful and confident.
>>1636851
what is the longest service life for a steam loco so far?, this Sharp 2-4-0 was built in 1880-1885 and the last ones retire in the mid 1980's
UP superpower in Wyoming
>>1637182City of Truro has a god tier aesthetic.
I'd like to see a pulling competition between one of these, 4014, and a restored N&W 2156
>>1637918I want to see the prr t1
>>1637919https://prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org/The t1 trust has been rebuilding a t1 from scratch only using blueprints of the train. When it is finished its going to be one sight to be seen.
>>1637919https://prrt1steamlocomotivetrust.org/The t-1 trust has been rebuilding one from scratch. Should be a sight to be seen
>>1637920What's with the crop, anon.
>>1637918Yellowstone would win
BBBRRRAAAP
So when is she set for her first excursion?
>>1637920>>1637921Heard of another group that wants to rebuild a NYC 4-6-4 Hudson. Anymore info?
>>1638303That's the first time I'll have hea4rd of it.Fuckin' A what was it with NYC and Pennsy that made them so averse to preserving anything?
>>1638305Attitude at the time was 'fuck steam, diesel all the way'
>>1638303>NYC 4-6-4for realz?
Freakbros, where you at?
>>1639163
>>1637276>what is the longest service life for a steam loco so far?The John Bull, it was in regular revenue service from 1836-1866, used as a traveling Smithsonian Institution exhibit on an off from 1885-1927, and was restored to operating condition and fired up one last time for its 150th Anniversary.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8dtJVvL8VQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNVUsHYSvQ>>1637918>mfw I went to see that locomotive as a kid and got in trouble for climbing on top of the front
>>1639166>>1639163Just doesn't feel right seeing her rods disconnected.
>>1638305NYC was worse than PRR for it.I think Perlman just wanted to get rid of the old, even though 2 or 3 donated steam locomotives would have been barely a dent on the railroad's finances.
>>1639215>got in trouble for climbing on top of the frontSounds like you were a chad kid.
old logging railroad that used to run near my house. hasn't existed in about 80 years, wish I could have seen it
>>1639983Looks similar to the east broad top. Guessing this is in pa or ohio?
>>1640033https://sites.google.com/view/va-rails/class-iii/the-dismal-swamp-railroad
>>1640078>Dismal Swamp RailroadThis sounds like the name of a model layout. I love it
>>1640078>>1640132Sounds like a dark souls area
>>1636867best steam turbine, coming through
Man I wish this was real.
>>1640375>implying the best steam turbine isn't the one that actually works
>>1640391you shut your whore mouththat aside I remember seeing something about that being restored to operational status on FB a while back wonder whatever happened to that
I'm not a huge trainpedo (not since elementary school anyway), but have any of you seen this before?Came across it looking at the Wiki page for Whyte notation, this comes up as 0-3-0.
>>1640551isn't that the weird defunct monorail in ireland? makes sense that it'd be 0-3-0 but the wheels aren't really visible
Posting in steamy bread :D
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>>1638836>>1640719I'd want her to haul my logs, if you know what I mean ;)
>>1640720
>>1640721Uuuuuuhuhuuuuuhhhhuhhuhhhaaaaaaaa mmmmmmmmmMMMMM I'M, I'M GONNA-
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>>1640724
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>>1640731Whoops
>>1640732
>>1640726What in the high hell is that giant box in the middle of the boiler.
>>1640736BASED ROCK ISLAND POSTERHere's one of her sisters out on the Golden State Route near Liberal, KS
>>1641164Shit I though this shit meme was dead, fuck off \b\
>>1641163>Golden State Route>Liberal, KSFunny how how synonymous these words are with each other now.
>>1641197Why must your ruin this picture of an SP northern with this bullshit.
>>1641526Here's your Baelight, anon
>>1640749Apparently a vertical superheatersee this thread:https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?10,5239068
Not many broadside photos of Rio Grande power
>>1641526Made it for a "what train would you name after Anne Frank" thread awhile agoAlso>pregnant Anne Frank>ruining any imageCringe
New York Central’s Mercury
>>1643121
shocking lack of terriers ITT lads
>>1637920>>1637924Does the US even have a stretch of track comparable to the Stoke Bank? If not, I don't see how it's going to beat Mallard's record.
>>1647932It's on CSX's line in NC. I dunno if it'll ever be clear enough to use for the T2 though. I hear it's a heavy traffic line.
>>1647944Forgot to mention, it's around 78 miles.
>>1647953Is that going to be enough track? Are there any curves to worry about?
>>1647932word is the pueblo test track is a possibility. most of the team think its so far above the mallard that it won't be close.
>>1649471We'll have to see. I just wonder why none of the PRR engineer ever recorded the speeds they say they hit.
>>1649486Probably because they weren't supposed to and the Pennsy was extremely by the book. The PRR was the definition of corporate autism.
Mexican Fairlie double enders
Milwaukee Road 4-4-2 streamlined Hiawatha
>>1649726gorgeous
>>1649471Still not very happy this is the intent, how do I stop being so autistic about it?
>>1650027>this is the intent,I thought the intent was just to build an extinct engine. Same as the Tornado.
>>1649730>reached speeds of over 100mph
>>1650056>Literally none preservedThe north really fucking hated their steamers, huh.
>>1650027>Still not very happy this is the intentThe speed record is just one part in a list of many reasons and one the T1 Trust doesn't even mention anymore - probably because of mallardcucks constantly seething at every mention of the T1. The performance of the T1, not just its speed, has been a matter of debate for quite sometime. It was the most hotly discussed topic in the PRR community for years. It's also a unique locomotive mechanically and one of the more successful of the PRR's special snowflake designs. Most importantly it wasn't preserved. The PRR did try to preserve at least one example of it's locomotive classes, and while none of the other special snowflake designs were preserved, the T1 probably fit the bill to join the survivors. >how do I stop being so autistic about it?Just remember the T1 probably wasn't the only Pennsylvania Railroad locomotive that was faster than the Mallard. By happy they're only building a T1 and not the S1 too.
>>1650131Didn't the S1 have even shittier traction/slippage issues though?
>>1650133>shittierThere's a theory that the T1's slippage issue was more attributed to engineer inexperience and having more complicated controls than the K4 for example. But yes, the S1 actually had design flaws that caused excessive slippage. It was also very limited to where it could operate. But that wouldn't stop it from reaching high speeds, just make it not worth using.
>>1649486I've heard the issue was that the PRR never bothered with the expense of putting speedometers in their steam engines.
>>1650205Maybe, but I don't think speedometers were even that common on steam locomotives in general. I've read once that T1's had speedometers, but they only went up to 125mph and weren't reliable. PRR management was a stickler for rules and being on schedule. As an engineer you weren't supposed to excessively speed, but you couldn't be late either. So if you magically showed up on schedule at your next stop despite being behind previously, the company would be satisfied without wanting to know how it was pulled off.
how do you feel about fireless steam locomotives?
if the t1 beats mallard's record does that mean she loses her special commemorative plaques that she carries on her sides? that would make me cry nigga
>>1650315They'll just have to upgrade her then. Introduce GPCS and replace the Kylchap with the Lempor exhaust and I'm sure Mallard could do 130mph with the right care.
>>1650321she's basically museum piece quality already, the NRM doesn't want to run her again because they want to avoid damaging what is one of the most significant steam locomotives ever built
>>1640693Not defunct, it's still running as a tourist railroadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lartigue_Monorail
>>1650249Is that a thing?
>>1650327Maybe they'll go peppercorn again and rebuild another member of her class just to challenge T1?
>>1650351don't think most brits are that petty. non-americans who aren't spastic foaming autists can appreciate everything the t1 trust stands for. i hope so at least lol
>>1650377I'm American.But yeah, nationalist shitflinging over steam engines is retarded.
>>1650377>>1650380I wouldn't call it shitflinging, I'd think an attempt at a new A4 with the mods mentioned here>>1650321 would be more so just to watch technical marvels be recreated.
>>1650249>>1650349Fireless locomotives were pumped up with compressed air and used in sensitive areas like mines, gunpowder factories, etc. They look like a small steam switcher with a phat boiler and I guess technically they’re not steam locomotives.
>>1650520Many fireless locomotives used steam instead of compressed air.
>>1650520Oh those. Big ol' tin can looking things, right? Yeah I've seen them. Some places in eastern Europe still use them iirc.
>>1650377As much as I love British steam traction and the LNER, I really want to see the T1 smash Mallard's record to pieces.t. Britbong
>>1650743Question from a burgerWhy did LNER and all the other railroads get swallowed and turned into the BR? What was the motivating factor?
>>1650743same except i'm australian. wonder if myself in 2030 would have enough money to visit the states and see it break the record in person. would cream my undies right then and there
>>1650825How is preserved steam in shitpost island? I've seen some pics of Aussie steam posted here now and then (including this one, which was apparently inspired by the t1).
>>1650867pretty good all things considered, it mostly depends on the state. in NSW you've got the big names like 3801 and the AD60 garratts that do special runs and shit. in victoria we have occasional steam charter specials (pic related) that occasionally run on the suburban and regional lines, have been on many of them as a kid. no clue about any of the other states apart from the fact that there's a comfy little cog railway somewhere in tasmania there's also the puffing billy railway of course but that one goes without saying
>>1650907Man, you Brits and Aussies have it good, steam-wise. Why the fuck were we so scrap happy? Look at this beautiful motherfucker - not a single J-1 has survived to today.
>>1650911beautiful engine. reminds me of the victorian railways S class, fucking love aussie steam because it's such a unique mixed bag of yank and brit influence
>>1650913They just need to make some brass N scale models of that and I'd buy one.
>>1643121>>1645075i hate this stupid train. >HURR DURR ART DECO OMG OMG OMG
>>1650992Art Deco and Streamline Moderne are based lmao
>>1650759Deferred maintenance from WWII left the big four with massive debt and crumbling infrastructure. So instead of paying up, or giving the railroads loan guarantees/subsides gubmnt just nationalized everything.It was pretty much the approach of the time in europe.
>>1651002they are based i just hate everyone using that one train as an example when there are way better ones
>>1651120Ah okay. I don't have anything against it.Commodore Vanderbilt has to be my fav
>WAAAAOW IS THAT A STREAMLINED TRAIN? ART DECO? ART DECO STREAMLINED TRAIN? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOW!!!!
>>1651302What's you problem? They look good? If you're in a thread celebrating historic trains of the past, why should people not be allowed to enjoy the looks of the streamlined trains?I don't get you.
Some streamlined steam looks better than others. I like it, and I also enjoy some really fugly locomotives like camelbacks.
>>1651335i've seen this loco in person and want a model one so bad
>>1651333love streamliners too i'm just stirring shit lol sick of normalfags only caring about gay reddit meme trains
>>1651337I bet there’s a 3D printed shell out there somewhere and you just have to find the right chassis. It’s a Hudson, right? I’ve seen some nice projects with 3D printed streamlined steam.
hope this clears things up
>>1651345You know we like them a here so why bitch, ironically, with reddit memes?Just post some steamers, dude.
>>1651355i have been
call the A4s overrated but i adore how they're undeniably straight out of the 1930s art deco design era but still looked excellent alongside other more rugged utilitarian-looking locos well into the british rail era. they aged incredibly well
>>1651354hope you understand what the x and y axis on a probability distribution mean, anon
>>1651363i don't. you get the point anyway
>>1651356MY PINIS IN YOUR MOM'S VEGANA
India
Bump for Peak Performance
smol
>>1652761Cute!
>>1652744fucking SIZE of those front cylinders, phwoarrr
>>1652825b e e g
>>1659358any idea where this is?
>>1659479Wish I could tell you. I found the pic here.
>>1659479>>1659516google reverse image search is your friendhttps://www.american-rails.com/logging.html
>>1647932>Stretch of relatively straight track, slightly downhill.That’s the entirety of the Midwestern United States.
ha ha!Time for Meme Boys
>>1660588>Meme BoysThey're alright but I think there are far more interesting giant articulateds, I think Challengers look better desu (especially the first set of them)
>>1660593The pre-3900s were pretty cool yeah. Liked the up-centered pilot. Made them look bulkier and meaner.
bump
>>1663450Why did Pennsy love duplexes but never wanted to go articulated?
>>1636858Those things apparently had a top speed of 70mph.Those fuckers were designed for light freight & yard shunting, yet could outspeed the EMD SD40-2, a mainline freight diesel. I just have a hard time reconciling that in my mind
>>1663505Maybe to get more power behind a smaller frame of wheels?
>>1665428Thomas could haul ass.
New York Central inspection locomotive
love looking at pics of japan's 3'6 gauge tracks and laughing lol. they got real life N scale hahahaha
>>1665432welp, at least you won't be cold if you operate in winter. Summer must be hell tho.
>>1665431Believe it or not, the fastest North Western engine for its size is Oliver. Great Western 1400s could hit 80mph
>>1665431>>1665774>t.
>>1666194t. CEG
>>1636872It's a shame about the U1, it could've been a great engine (like the pic related SAR garratt) if Beyer Peacock had been given a free hand in designing them.I reckon if Gresley hadn't insisted on two 3-cylindered engines and stuck with the original plan of two O4 engine units instead it would have been a far better locomotive.Or better yet, put smaller wheels on it (around 48") and shrink the cylinders too.
>>1667586south african or south australian?
>>1669795South african, just like this small Berkshire
lol
>>1670212What happened now
This just showed up in my recommendations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLT0IZiP90w
>>1675569what
>>1651369A bit of a basic choice but honestly 4014 is what got me back into rail fanning, model railroading and trains in general so it’s gotta be my favorite
>>1649730always loved the paint scheme makes me want a 50/50 bar
>>1651337prepare to burn your wallethttps://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Broadway-Limited-Imports-HO-4557-L-1-4-6-4-Hudson-Chesapeake-and-Ohio/
>>1651840India stands out as a former colony that was smart enough to not tear up their infrastructure after the Brits left, no? I assume most track I'm African countries were torn up by retards during decolonization elsewhere.
>>1636858Sadly, Thomas was not a very useful engine. :(
Got my good pc back after a year.
>>1679875Looks like he's steaming again this yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TYwtJBEnk
For me, it's the N&W A-class
>>1681518There certainly were some closures, and other attempted ones that failed after meeting local resistance.But India had too much of a complex railway network for it to be ever completely closed.
>>1684431Did they paint his drive rods or was there just rust on them before?
I sure hope all that talk of Ed Dickens wanting to make sure 3985 is kaput forever is just hearsay. I'd really like to see her steam again one day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7mrqFbMn4I mean, just look at her move, man.
>>1686125Cute!
Well what do you knowLook who's backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wPILfsxuTY
>>1650913In my humble opinion, the S looked even better without the streamlining
Is C&O/WM 1309 just parked or what? They showed it under its own power over a year ago and there's been nothing new since
>>1688208>a year agoyou mean this January.Either way, I wish I knew.
>>1688208>>1688432https://www.times-news.com/news/scenic-railroad-sweetens-excursions/article_1aeace7c-e9d3-11eb-9cc7-0f6938ceaad7.html
>>1688458>1309 is now essentially the world's biggest ice cream truckSounds frivolous, but I can't bring myself to hate it.
>>1688458>>1688602Wait, nvm, 1309 isn't pulling itAh well. Long as it garners interest it can't be a bad thing.
>>1651369https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ezjQx_6pH4
