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ayy, /bbg/, you want some bike? edition
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>>1631760
I don't understand the purpose of these threads. literally just buy a bike that isn't from shartmart and ride it.
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>>1631782

You underestimate how people need to be spoon-fed nowadays
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>>1631782
I don't think i've ever seen anyone here buy a new left field bike they wouldn't have otherwise but a lot of people have bought nice/cool old bikes with help from us, which i like a lot

and hell anyone might just want to talk to people about this stuff and that's good
anyone buying a bike or trying to ride more is good

>bikes are all the same
>just ride
true, but that makes all threads redundant, not just this one
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>>1631782
is decathlon the same as walmart?
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>>1631834
I think that of their mtb bikes are quite good, I would probably never buy one myself because I am not poor but there are way worse options to buy a mtb from.
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>>1631811
>but that makes all threads redundant, not just this one
Yes.
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>>1631760
Where can I buy spd pedals for a reasonable price right now? It's like they've all dropped off the face of the earth, I am seeing m520s that should be like $40 listed for $100. I have a beat to shit roadbike that I'm redoing and I don't want to bother swapping pedals from my nice bike to it every time I ride it, I figured I'd pick up a cheap pair of spds and use my mtb shoes for it, but I just can't find any pedals for sale online that aren't stupid expensive, it's weird
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>>1632124
>spd pedals on a road bike
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>>1632133
i bet you're a speedplay nigger
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>>1632134
That escalated quickly.
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>>1631760
I'm looking at buying a bike trailer for my two little nuggets. One nugget is 2 and the other is 1. Does anyone have a recommended brand or any brands to avoid?
pic related is a nugget wagon
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>>1632468
Burley. They pull and track nicely.
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i bought this bike, quite happy with it until now desu
got a carbon frame and carbon wheels and a shimano 105 for 1,9k€
saddlepost and handlebar/stem is aluminum

did about 150 kilometers in the last week
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>>1632133
There's nothing wrong with SPD on a road bike, especially for commuting. And as >>1632124 says, it's on an old road bike so I don't think the pedal system is going to be the limiting factor in how fast he goes.
On the other hand, durianrider uses SPD on his road bike and he is fucking mental so I would therefore avoid it
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WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BUY A ROAD FRAMESET EVERYWHERE IS SOLD OUT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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shill me some saddle bags I can buy in europe or aliexpress
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>>1632533
stfu
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>>1632748
what a retardedly vague question
saddle bag can mean one of several quite different things
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>>1632533
You don't happen to be rich and either 6'5" or a literal midget, do you?

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/émonda/émonda-slr/émonda-slr-h2-frameset/p/28103/
>$3629
>size 47, 52 in stock

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/émonda/émonda-slr/émonda-slr-rsl-h1-frameset/p/29864/
>$3629
>52 in stock

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/domane/domane-slr/domane-slr-frameset/p/23162/
>$3299
>54 in stock

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/émonda/émonda-alr/émonda-alr-frameset/p/23613/
>$1099
>47, 62 in stock
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>>1632752
small sadlle bag for multitool and spare 29" tube
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>>1632755
not your phone?
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>>1632756
I have zipped pocket in all my jerseys
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>>1632755
honestly anon do you need recs for this... they're a dime a dozen. Every shop sells them.

If you want a better one it's Jandd or Blackburn.
You might want to think about getting something waterproofed too if you are carrying your phone in it, and ride in the rain.
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>>1632759
yeah but it's still nicer not having stuff in them. I'd want a saddlebag that was the width of my phone.

Unless you're the type of faggot who checks their phone all the time.
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>>1632755
bike24 lad
and just get one you like the look of.
don't buy this kinda thing off aliexpress
it's the kind of item that gets so much use and wear that you'll get chinked on quality sooner rather than later.
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>>1632761
I've got now some cheap chink bag and it's ridiculous how hard it is to open it so I thought I'll ask
>>1632762
the pockets are waterproofed and on a side on my back, pretty comfy. and I'm never carrying my phone with other things in the same space
>>1632765
will look there, thanks
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What do you guys wear to stay warm/warmer when riding? Whenever I try and ride in 45F or below weather, even wearing all kinds of clothes and whatever else, I always still end up cold as fuck and I can't stand it. it seems like no amount of clothing really even helps, or buying specific "cold weather" gear doesn't actually do much of anything. Like at best it keeps you slightly warmer, but not by much.
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>>1632810
merino + synthetic layers + ride harder
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>>1631782
there are way too many pitfalls and things to learn if you want to be a somewhat non-retarded cyclist and you'll probably have to put more money into it than you initially had in mind
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>>1632124
lol, weird. lucky i got sub 300g pedals cheap. maybe try some bike forums, people should have some old ones that they aren't using.
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>>1632810
like above anon said
thin breathable layers
merino or polyester
longjohns
don't wear a raincoat unless it's raining, they trap sweat, but you do want a thin wind layer if it's very cold

the best mid-layer is down.

pic related is me down to about -5c
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>>1632124
or check local shops
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>buy a plastic frame
>crash lightly once
>whole bike goes into the bin

Why do people do this to themselves?
Why not getting an alu bike?
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Is this worth £80?
Want to make a cheap ass gravel bike for the summer.
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>>1632879
Hell yes. Probably needs a complete overhaul but it's a pretty nice bike. I wouldn't modify much at all.
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>>1632874
>Why do people do this to themselves?
Some people are highly suggestible by nature, so they get memed real easy and real hard, they get something into their brain - no matter how it got there, shitposting on 4chan or jew marketing campaign, to them it's all the same - they can't relax until they fulfilled whatever consoomer urge has been awakened.

THEY KNOW carbon is an absurd material for a bike unless it's for a pro, the shit is provided for free of charge and your earnings depend upon every millisecond off the lap time.
THEY KNOW that even a slight knock can cause catastrophic structural damage that may remain undetected until the moment they suddenly find themselves skidding face first across the tarmac collecting what remain of their teeth in their belt.
THEY KNOW it's a fucking meme that makes no sense at all, but they can't overwrite the lines of code already running in their pea brains. You ever heard of buyers remorse, these fuckers live like they're addicted to that shit.
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>>1632879
Thanks mate
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>>1632882
see
>>1632886
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>>1632879
That's a 1989 model with tange frame and chromoly fork, a very very nice bike, like the other anon says you won't need to do much at all, if you were to buy something of equivalent quality today (frame set only) you'd be looking to spend £200-£300+, the rust looks entirely superficial, you could tidy it up with just an afternoons work and a few quid spent on primer and paint.

I'd say give it the once over, make sure there's no cracks etc and if the frame is sound bite his hand off. Change all inner cables, get a new chain, service brakes, bottom bracket and gears etc, change only what needs changing and you have a very capable gravel bike right there, better than most of the new shite you see shilled on here.
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>>1632901
>very very nice bike
lets not get ahead of ourselves
it's the lowest model, with like ex or stx or something. Not deore or XT. Plastic brake levers for example.

It's like entry level of good.

Tomac era mongoose is a really nice marque and thumbies and cantis with a stop through the stem is nice spec but it's nothing to get wet over.
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>>1632902
For £80 anon? Spend another £50-80 on it, there are some nice deals out there at the moment for decent condition XT componentry, it would be fairly cheap and easy to elevate that bike into something worth much more than the sum of its parts.
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>>1632904
oh yeah it's a great buy for sure. I'm not saying those parts are bad either. They're good.

It's just not very very nice.
It's nice.
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this one, the Tomac signature model with XT and tange prestige, is the very very very nice one
the team is very very nice
the pro is very nice
and the comp is a nice bike
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>>1632879
>£80
those tyres had better be fresh. if not, £6.50 in scrap
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>>1632908
Find examples of the very very very nice, the very very nice and the very nice in rideable condition for comparable prices and we'll have agreement anon, but my very very nice ranking was based upon the reality of the overall condition of the bike and its price, not in relation to how it may or may not compare to other cycles in the range.
And I stand by it.
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>>1632913
sure but that's just not what you said lol
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Is pic related a decent bike?
>Raleigh Grand Prix ( 1974) Eroica Classic Vintage
Apparently one of the last hand painted bikes from the fabled Leeds factory, in excellent condition - £525

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raleigh-Grand-Prix-1974-Eroica-Classic-Vintage/224392465274

I really like the look of it, I'd like to use it for summer rides in the countryside with friends.
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>>1632956
Forgot pic
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>>1632956
>£525
Did the british pound collapse or what?
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>>1632973
b-but steel is real
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>>1632533

theres gonna be a fresh batch of privateer frames on the somafab store soon i heard. not really road but honestly who the fuck rides road bikes
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>>1632753
>>1632988
Really just wanted to try to get into some local crit races this year until I got into a car accident a few weeks ago. Just want to get a Allez sprint or something similar. I think I may have found one in DC though. Not ideal, but could be worse. Im no midget but I am a manlet which it seems a lot of people also are around the 52 size.
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>>1632978
It is also cheap
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Marin presidio or san rafael for road + trail riding? (BC, Canada so not just flat trails)
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>>1632885
Holy based
Plastard carbonfags ion hiding
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>>1632994
>seems a lot of people also are around the 52 size

yeah, women.
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>>1632885
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>>1632756
Just fyi it is possible to ride a bike (or do damn near anything, in fact) without your phone surgically attached to you like a third nut.
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>>1632879
it's got decent cantilever brakes, looks kind of like Mountan LX,
Shimano BR-M454 and BL-M451
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>>1633047
just fyi that anon wants his phone in his jersey and i'm suggesting he carry it stored in the saddlebag for emergencies so i'm not the phonefag in this scenario
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>>1632956
>Is pic related a decent bike?
not really. It's handsome but it's not even chromoly. It's not on the 'good bike' spectrum.
Pair with a (true to form for old road bikes) obscenely high geared cottered (yuck) crank, 27" tires, a claw derailer, steel post, steel stem, aside from being really very good looking, it's more like the kind of bike i'd tell you not to buy for £50 than a decent riding classic.

It's offensively overpriced.
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>>1632533
Diamondback website. They are closing out their last podium frames. They also have andeans but... Yeah
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>>1633013
Lombardi
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>>1632956
anything from the 70s is complete shit
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>>1632902
You’re wrong, those are XT Shimano thumbshifters either the SL-M730 or 732... best ones ever made and they sell for 50-60 bucks per shifter even today. Have a friction/SIS dual mode switch too.
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>>1633144
hmm well the crank isn't xt and nor are the brake levers, that's for sure
maybe some upgraded parts.
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>>1632956
>>1632959
its strait up archaic, the frame material is not well advertised but its likely 1020 or 1030
the brakes are Weinmann 610, they leave plenty of room for fenders
RD is Simplex Prestige AR 637 P
FD is Simplex Simplex Prestige AV 223
the derailleurs contain Polyoxymethylene plastic, it does not hold up very well to sunlight or water
the RD has some metal reinforcement on the parallelogram plate to help resisting fractures
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how much is this bike worth?
ultegra 3x10 & mavic wheels
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>>1633241
tree fiddy
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>>1633241
$250
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>>1633241
100$
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and what about this one?
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>>1633332
>random fake DoF blurred blotches
Also Look where? Front axle?
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I want her so bad bros and she's too far away
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dudes, is this woirth bidding for, 1.5 hrs left and still at £102, what's she worth?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-p7-mountain-bike-Mens-1994-Vintage-Retro-classic-18-inch-frame/154392699631
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>>1633332
the value of it is probably quite high
personally, i'd much rather buy high end classic bikes that are in poor condition, and presented badly. I don't know why you'd want a bike like that. It's exactly the kind of deal i'd avoid.
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>>1633344
£150, 200 absolute max?
It's a nice bike but probably a project if you really want it running nicely.

personally the nickel plating or whatever just doesn't really do it for me.
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Why the fuck are mountain bikes so expensive now? Last time I bought a bike was 10 years ago. I paid $700 and thought I was buying something middle-of-the-road in terms of quality. I bike snob I knew at the time bragged that he spent $3000 on a Cannondale. Now I go to look for a middle-of-the-road mountain bike and the average price is $5000. High end bikes are $12000-13000. I know that there's such a thing as inflation, but that's insane.

You would think that with all the Chinese shit out there that the competition would have driven the prices down. Why the fuck should I pay more than $1000 for a bike?
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>>1633356
Well what kind of riding do you want to do? You shouldn't necessarily.
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>>1633346
seller priced it at 1200€, is that too high?
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>>1633356
>with all the Chinese shit out there
It never really made or makes sense how cheap a lot of chinese stuff was/is.
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>>1633358
Nothing too extreme. Most of the riding I foresee would be on flat paved or dirt roads. There is one river valley nearby that I would be crossing regularly using a rocky trail. I would prefer a full suspension bike because I don't see why I should volunteer to have my taint pulverized just to purity signal.
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>>1633364
Yeah so, as you describe, if you're not actually doing serious mtb riding, then an entry level 8/9 speed hardtail is really pretty good now for you.

Now you just need to reconcile the fact that you neither need nor can afford an expensive bike, and yet you think you should be riding one for your image and sense of self worth.

I guess, maybe go outside and scream ? Or try steal a bike? Or borrow some money?
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>>1633364
FS bikes suck ass to ride on anything other than downhill trails man. If you want your ride to be smooth that's best done using big tires at lower pressure. Suspension on a bike doesn't work like suspension on a car. Don't get a FS bike for paved and light dirt/gravel, that's just not going to be a good time. If you want something cheap-ish, easy to maintain and fairly comfortable, get a 90s rigid mtb, put some 2" tires on there and a comfy saddle
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>>1633368
I basically agree with you but XC fullies do exist and they're pretty nice. You don't get pedal bob.
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>>1633368
This is great advice, but it'll be ignored because it doesn't say what the listener wants to hear. I don't know what it is about front shocks, especially cheapo ones, they are heavy, exppensive comparatively, prettyy bad at what they are meant to do, another potential point of failure, more maintenance costs going forwards, they sap your energy on anything other than downhill surfaces. They are completely stupid things to not only have but to actively seek out.

Of course if you're hitting mountain trails on a regular basis but only have the cash or space for one bike then OK, sure, your passion for offroading might make the discomfort, inconvenience and frankly tedious road usage worth it, but even then... holy shit what's the point, just tell him to get his shitty meme forks and then come back in a year to tell us all how right we were and how he wished he'd listened. You can lead a horse to water and all that..
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I looked through the local second hand bike classifeds. Out of 132 posts I found exactly one 90's rigid mtb for sale.
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Lads, is this worth a punt? Titanium frame, XT and other top tier componentry, looks pretty sweet, currently at £410 with 3 hours left, I could stretch to £500, what's it worth in real terms and then I'll add my personal lust into the equation.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rock-Lobster-Team-Ti-MTB-retro-classic/164792204574?
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>>1633372
congrats, how do you like how it rides?
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>>1633364
>I don't see why I should volunteer to have my taint pulverized
You don't know how to ride.
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>>1633374
It's a piece of junk.
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>>1633372
Get on ebay, there are hundreds, and collect only ones go for a song, all you need to do is pay a man with a van to go pick it up and you can still come out with an absolute bargain.

I bought my old 94 clockwork like that, £106 plus £50 for a fella to go get it, sold it a year later for £245
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>>1633373
for what ?
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>>1633378
For downhill trail riding of course, in the peaks round here (Matlock Bath).
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>>1633379
i mean yeah man? If you don't already have a decent more modern mtb. For that use i'd probably rather have 1 nice thing than cobble together a bike collection and the collectable nature of that bike to me is not that high.

but purely practically as a first nice mtb for the price, yes
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What are some bike brands that I should avoid at all costs? I would like something to commute around the town.
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>>1633381
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, I have a 2016 trek marlin which is showing its age, and honestly I had a lot of fun on it but would love to try something slightly different. That Rock Lobster gave me an instant boner ngl.
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>>1633382
specialized, trek, giant, rivendell, cannondale
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>>1633382
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>>1633384
Why tho? I thought those were good.
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>>1633386
>specialized
Sues everyone. Sued a small bike shop called Café Roubaix over the Roubaix trademark which is a classic race in belgium. Probably will sue you if you buy from them.
>trek
propped up a drug cheat psychopath for nearly a decade just because he had ball cancer and won some races in europe. Threw AllUSA goodlad Greg Lemond under the fucking bus over it even after his brother in law shot him in a hunting accident.
>giant
illegal company based in Chinese Taipei which needs to submit soon or there will be consequences.
>rivendell
Supported BLM. But not enough.
>cannondale
>crrrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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>>1633387
>Probably will sue you if you buy from them.
They'll sue you for not buying from them
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>>1633371
I mean if you really want a hardtail then some front shocks have a lockout that will make it rigid while on the road, so you only have to put up with mtb geo and extra weight, you at least avoid having to deal with suspension on the road. But most cheap shocks don't have a lockout, you really only get that if you go midrange, and if he doesn't want to spend more than 1k he's not going to get a good shock, it'll be something really shitty
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>>1633369
this is true, if you're willing to spend the big bucks for a modern suspension frame and good shocks. But for less than 1k, hell no
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>>1633364
Honestly you'd be fine just getting a cheapo hybrid used (not one with a shock, all cheap shocks suck), and running wide tires on it
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>>1633373
Probably would be fun as fuck to ride that on the hardest trails you can find just to see what will happen
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>>1633387
>Chinese Taipei
FUCK OFF CHANG NOBODY BELIEVES YOUR LIES
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>>1633385
i'd ride that right into the hospital man, something about retardedly designed chinesium frames makes me want to do stupid shit
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>>1633416
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>>1631834
no, decathlon is good
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Hi /bbg/, can you help me tell if this is a good deal?
I am looking for my first road bike. I've been mountain biking for 20+ years and own a Canyon Neuron AL 6.0 trail bike, but would like to get into 20-40+ mile road bike rides in the SF Bay Area.
>2017 Trek Emonda SL6
>lightly used, has been upgraded
>seller says bike is about 15 pounds as-is
>$3000
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-2017-trek-emonda-sl6-52cm/7298542819.html

>2021 model is $3800 new
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/performance-road-bikes/%C3%A9monda/%C3%A9monda-sl/%C3%A9monda-sl-6-disc/p/32561/

Upgrades, copy-pasted from the CL ad:
>Like new 2017 Trek Emonda SL6 climbing machine. Lightly used Trek Emonda, I rode it for around 10 rides total. Bought a new bike and I don't have room for two so selling this one. This Trek Emonda is between 14-15 pounds and rated one of the best climbing bikes. This is the best climbing bike I've ever ridden. Absolutely flawless, no scratch, dent, crack....etc. This bike is like new and you are welcome to return this bike to me if you find anything wrong with it. This bike will fit anyone 5'5" to 6'3" tall.
Total upgrades to the bike is $2,000+ as listed below with links.

>Handlebar and Stem: Fully integrated one piece Internal routing Cinelli Ram Carbon handlebar. Best aero/ergo handlebar for climbing. ($450 + tax)
https://www.cinelli-usa.com/cinelli-ram-3-carbon-bar-stem-combo/

>New Supacaz super sticky kush bar tape Galaxy stars. Different color from different angle

>Wheelset: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3 Full Carbon Wheelset. Best wheelset for climbing. ($1300 + tax)
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-components/bike-wheels/road-bike-wheels/bontrager-aeolus-pro-3v-tlr-disc-road-wheel/p/27195/

>Saddle: Specialized Power Expert Carbon Saddle ($160 + tax)
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/power-expert/p/155978?color=230517-155978&searchText=27116-1508
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>>1633373
Beautiful, but I hate that the hubs don’t match
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>>1633490
>https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rock-Lobster-Team-Ti-MTB-retro-classic/164792204574?
Half hour left, it's gone past my limit sadly, I could go higher but I have a rule with ebay auctions and always stick to it, set a price limit before the first bid and never go above it.
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Can you get a better bike for the price than the Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8 for 2300€?

It weighs 7 kg and there is still the option of saving weight with saddle and wheelset.
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>>1633492
>set a price limit before the first bid and never go above it
Prudent.
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>>1633543
ngl, I feel a little disappointed to have not got the bike, but for me it's important to have some rules and that I stick to them. There will be other bikes of course, and so the search goes on which is a large part of the fun anyway.
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>>1633488
>BB90
aww hell no

Also if the only place he cut weight is the wheels, sub-15 lbs is bullshit.
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>>1633534
>Canyon
Depends, do you have medical insurance?
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>>1633566
elaborate
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>>1633608
>he doesn't know
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>>1633618
this poorfag cope is identical to /o/ when you ask something about a 2021 BMW
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>>1633644
>poorfag cope
>buying a budget mail order bike from a company currently dealing with two separate scandals involving their shit self-destructing because of critical design flaws
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>>1633362
i wouldn't buy it. it's carbon from a good brand, but it's old. the wheels are not up to modern standards. now maybe it's hard to find alternatives because of covid and with manufacturers moving toward disc brake bikes, but a brand new aluminium bike with a carbon fork from a good brand would be fine imo.
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>>1633362
It would be functionally outclassed by a new modern bike.
The price is maybe fair but as a classic collectible.
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>>1633356
mountain bikes are for extreme sports, not for casual riding. you can get a nice hybrid or entry level hardtail for less than $1000. keep in mind these prices are because they are bought by self-respecting adults who wouldn't consider a walmart kids bike in a million years. also inflation is a thing.

>>1633364
even the "rocky trail" could probably be handled by a nice hybrid (like with a carbon fork) or a gravel bike.
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>>1633648
t.shill for other overpriced companies that sell their shit bikes manufactured in China mostly for huge margins

Go away
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im in the market for a touring bike, and i think i've settled on this. thoughts? Going to visit the shop next week for a test ride.

https://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/model-
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>>1633852
yuck.
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>>1633852
unstealable, so yeah, save money on locks if nothing else.
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>>1633852
Why does it have a doorstop spring mounted on the fork?
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>>1633852
>good quality components, designed to last the lifetime of the bike.
Translation: the frame will be the first thing to fail.

>The whole groupset is Shimano Deore
Crankset is Acera or Altus depending on which spec listing you believe, levers are Claris, and brakes are from the third-world variation of Deore with extra parts that they don't sell in good countries

https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/component/deore-t610.html
https://bike.shimano.com/de-DE/product/component/deore-t610.html

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264572165314
>PLEASE NOTE THE BROOKS SADDLE SHOWN IN THE PHOTO IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LISTING PLEASE SEE THE DETAILED SPEC BELOW
lol
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>>1633878
You literally didn't say 1 helpful thing. The man is looking at the bike on a product page. He can just read what the specs are.

>>1633852
I would much much rather tour on drop bars, but that bike otherwise, is excellent. Near perfect. Especially the fact you get a handbuilt high spoke count wheelset with deore hubs. That's the weak point on a lot of cheaper touring builds and the most common serious failure on touring bikes in general. And with silver spokes and rims those look great. The one thing i'd suggest you consider if they offer it is speccing a dynamo hub for lights. Maybe also asking to spec metal fenders, or set those up yourself, they cost a bit more but function and look better.

Also, if faced with a price gap between 9spd and 10spd, the 10spd deore components are better, but 9 speed ones are more compatible and still quite good. So i would happily have, and even situationally prefer alivio/altus spec on a touring bike.

I also dislike that rear rack. The better touring racks have dual sets of parallel rails, so you can run panniers, and the panniers hook onto the bottom rail and don't mire things on the racktop. That lowrider rack is well designed though.
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>>1633860
Stops the front wheel from turning and making the bike fall over when you leave it standing with just the kickstand supporting it. It's more commonly seen on city bikes in areas where you can just lock the bike standing by itself, rather than locking it to something
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>>1633860
stabilizes the front steering, stops the heavy loaded front end swinging around and falling over quite so easily.

It's a good idea kind of but really it's unnecessary when riding and when parked you should just strap your front wheel to the down-tube to achieve the same thing but more secure.
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>>1633852
ok two more things i dislike about this bike
firstly, they spec a deore rear derailer which doesn't have a barrel adjuster. So the only barrell adjuster is on the shifters. But they don't put a barrell adjuster on the cable stop. What if you run bar end shifters in future? Boom, doesn't work, have to use some janky inline bullshit and those slip. Fucking stupid.

Secondly, bottle cage placement. They are wasting all this space. The seat tube cage should be as low as possible. And the downtube cage should be hard up against it. A LOT of people run frame bags and that would give you more space for one, especially if you use big bottles. And give better low weight distrobution.

Mention these things to them please.
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>>1633878
>third-world variation of Deore

>the trekking version of deore is bad for a trekking bike

are you even listening to yourself
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>>1633892
>when parked you should just strap your front wheel to the down-tube to achieve the same thing
What a faff.
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>>1633898
it takes less than 5 seconds
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Found a mtb i like but it has these tires. I’m a total noob. What are these good for? Seems too slick for winter riding. Am i wrong?
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>>1633946
riding on a road or smooth dirt.
you can ride them in the snow but something wider might be better. You can always switch tires.

Are those VO brakes? They're $145 lol. And with a sheldon device to catch the straddle cable. And kool stops. How expensive is this meme build?
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repost from /bqg/


newfag here. what brand would you go for if you are looking for a city/commuter bike?
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>>1633960
budget?
do you live in an american city?
I'd strongly consider used if under $500

but yeah
marin or linus
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>>1633900
>5 seconds
What a faff
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>>1633962
I'm in North Side Chicago. Budget isn't an issue, as long as I can prevent it from being stolen
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>>1633966
well if you want recs on used bikes post your height and link your cl

otherwise looking at new bikes i'd say just avoid suspension for a city bike (heavy) and avoid new 7spd bikes (excessively shit quality), get 8/9/10/11spd
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>>1631760
is there a bike maintenance guide? What should I check before riding?
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>>1633970
fuck me wrong thread
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>>1633970
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
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>>1633970
>needing to be spoon fed this much
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>>1633949
They are VO. $200 for the whole thing. What is meme about it?
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>>1633960
Cannondale. Because Cannondale is awesome
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>>1633977
practically everything, but in a good way
get it
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>>1633969
>i'd say just avoid suspension for a city bike (heavy) and avoid new 7spd bikes (excessively shit quality), get 8/9/10/11spd

thanks man
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>>1633984
Already emailed the guy. Hope to pick it up tomorrow
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>>1633960
cannondale quick 3
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tell me why I shouldn't buy this bike
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>>1634003
It’s a Trek for one
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>>1634003
You don't need it.
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>>1634003
it's a black and red trek
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>>1633890
>>1633896
thanks for the advice. The specc on their site is the suggested one, and i think i'll probably discuss changing some of it from the suggested when i talk to them, ie racks and fenders. im a flat bar man myself so the lack of drops or stop barrel adjuster doesn't really bother me too much. Dynamo hubs would be nice, but i don't think its something i would be able to afford at the moment. one of things i'll make sure to talk about is making sure its built / specced in a way which can be upgraded, as i think this will be a long term investment for me. definitely also considering asking for 9 speed over 10 for ease of finding components if i ever decide to venture out of western Europe with it. I've not made the decision to buy it yet, i think i'll only know after the test ride and get a feel for it. I do know two other people who have brought them and they were pretty happy with them, touring around the world with them. but i'll see how it is in real life.
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>>1634003
>dick brakes
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>>1634008
>>1634009
>>1634015
>>1634024
>color
>brand
>too expensive

any actual reasons?
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>>1634038
the brand really does have some connotations to it and domane is their boomer geometry, maybe look at emonda instead
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>>1634038
>what is 2+2 and don't give me 4
durr. do whatever.
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>>1634042
I read somewhere that Domane is more comfortable for boomers while Emonda is more sporty for zoomers
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>>1634043
>color and brand taste is the same as a mathematical question
why do you have to be like this?
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>>1634049
>brand doesn’t matter
Just go get a Huffy at walmart then retard
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Steel rigid 90’s rockhopper, beautiful condition, all original parts (looks like it was a collector’s, or refurbished really well)
What would you pay? Even the cassette is spotless and the teeth look completely unused
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>>1633949
>you can ride them in the snow but something wider might be better
Yes, you could remove the tire altogether, then pack butter around the rim. That would work about as well but have the added benefit of consumable fuel after you break you legs and start to get cold.
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>>1634082
$150 max
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>>1634082
>What would you pay?
nowhere near as much as a "collector" would accept for it
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>>1633121
>hey which $700ish bike should I get?
>recommends a $1300 one
thanks, lots of help.
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>>1634131
it is
save up and get something worth getting
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>>1634137
I have a car, this is just a bike to go biking for leisure and short trips in the city, nothing serious. unless you think a $600 bike is going to just fall apart
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>>1634131
get the nicasio then it's a better bike at that price point
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>>1634139
I like the look of it, but still too expensive for my needs, this is CAD btw so the cheapest nicasio is $1099
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YT Capra or Jeffsy?

I want to have fun on trails and also do the occasional tour (50 miles max)
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>>1634138
it won't, you just won't enjoy riding it as much
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>>1634141
>too expensive for my needs
this is completely arbitrary
let's say the cheapest toyota shitbox car is what 15-20 grand
and then you come demanding a car for 10 grand
maybe there's some shitty car made by pajeets/gypsies but it's no good
you would look at used cars but there are lots of pitfalls with those as well
it really takes an expert refreshing craigslist all day looking for deals and knowing what they'll need to fix
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>>1633013
the one without suspension. Although the other one is good it isn't geared particuraly low and the igh will be a bitch if you are actually riding bigger hills. Muirwood is the better hybrid they sell.
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>>1634216
YOUR preferences are completely arbitrary. You're just telling him he needs to get a drop bar bike because you're trapped in this ridiculous dogma.

The bikes he's looking at are not equivelant to a tata nano
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>>1633013
the cheapest presidio is really excellent spec
Chromo fork
Altus mech
hydros
35mm tires

because it's 1x, but not actually 1x with a system designed for 1x (very wide cassette) the 38-34 low gear is not all that low, but you could upgrade to a double or triple crank in future easily enough if this becomes frustrating. Really the gear range is excellent for many purposes.
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>>1631760
3 questions:
- the chain of one of my bikes seems to have enlengthened or some shit, because it keeps sort of "skipping" . how do I determine the cause of the problem? I made a video and it's clear to me that the pin falls on top of the sprockets teeth and sort of jumps when I apply a lot of force.
- I actually have 2 trek bikes and because of the above I want to use the chain from one bike in the other. how do I find out if they are compatible? are all chains compatible?
- how do i buy a new chain? what are the specs/measures for these things? how the fuck do I find them? what are some keyword to find replacement parts?
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>>1634144
If climbing is even a concern at all for you whatsoever, get the Jeffsy. The Capra is a lot of fucking bike and the jeffsy itself can handle bike park duty
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>>1634262
firstly if your chain is skipping you've left changing it WAY too late and will need to replace your chain and your cassette. The badly worn chain will have badly worn your cassette and a new chain will skip on it as well. You'll be lucky if your chainrings don't skip too, although try it and see.

Secondly you should buy this, a chain wear tool, it's like a $5 thing and it tells you when your chain needs replacing. If you replace chains on time, then your cassettes and chainrings (much more expensive) last a lot longer.

thirdly chains are basically all compatible for the number of cogs on your cassette, 7,8,9 etc.
7 and 8 speed chains are compatible
I would recommend KMC brand as they're easier to change.
You also need a chain breaker tool to cut it to size when installing. Look at Sheldon Brown for how to size a chain.
and overhaul your jockey wheels when you change it.
You can look at RJ the bike guy for tutorials on youtube about how to change a cassette.
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>>1634262
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>>1634268
>firstly if your chain is skipping you've left changing it WAY too late and will need to replace your chain and your cassette
:(
is it not possible to change only a couple of chainrings? I almost always use the same speeds... I don't ride lengthy trails and the bikes are not even 2 years old

>Secondly you should buy this, a chain wear tool, it's like a $5 thing and it tells you when your chain needs replacing
right, will do.

>thirdly chains are basically all compatible for the number of cogs on your cassette, 7,8,9 etc.
>7 and 8 speed chains are compatible
I have no idea what that means t b h. this is a trek marlin 5, it has 7x3 speeds

I just read the specs,the bike has a KMC Z51 chain. the one I could find in my country costs $50. is that a good price?

>>1634268
>You also need a chain breaker tool to cut it to size when installing. Look at Sheldon Brown for how to size a chain.
>and overhaul your jockey wheels when you change it.
>You can look at RJ the bike guy for tutorials on youtube about how to change a cassette.
will do. thanks m8
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>>1634289
>I have no idea what that means t b h. this is a trek marlin 5, it has 7x3 speeds
So you have a 7 speed cassette.
So you need a 7 or 8 speed chain.
>$50
should be more like $15

>is it not possible to change only a couple of chainrings?
chainrings are in the front. You have a cassette (or a freewheel) in the back, which have cogs. And technically yes, functionally, no, you change the whole thing. A 7 speed shimano one, cassette or freewheel, is not particularly expensive. Nor are the tools to change. Again, sheldon or RJ. You could chance it, and just put on a new chain first, if it doesn't skip, ok, if it does, you need to change the cassette/freewheel.
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>>1634289
left is better right is fine.
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>>1634289
seems like KMC Z51 was renamed to Z8.1 but it doesn't have to be the exact same

>Z8
https://www.bike24.com/p295723.html
>Z8 EPT
https://www.bike24.com/p295724.html
>X8
https://www.bike24.com/p2328727.html
>e8 EPT
https://www.bike24.com/p2456009.html
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>>1634003
>Domane
Heavy upright 'endurance' bike. An emonda will be faster.

Also that color is meh, the orange one is better.
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>>1634042
What 'connotations' does Trek have that the other normie brands don't?
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>>1631834
their cheap low end bikes, yes
their higher end bikes, no
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>>1633241
$200
>>1633332
$1100
ancient drivetrain tho
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>>1634291
>>$50
>should be more like $15
ended up buying the chain from amazon for almost $30

>>1634293
>>1634295
see above. anyway, thanks m8
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Dogshit market here, but how dogshit is this bike posted at $200? I can barely find info on it but I'm just looking for a 2nd bike to get Round town on. Current bike is fixed gear Dawes bikes direct cheaper than Kilo TT and that's great for my needs.

Guy claims it rides smoothly despite the obvious rusted condition. Shimano Altus derailleur, im assuming the grip shifter sucks. Considering the circumstances, are there any good reasons not to buy this as a beater?
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>>1634345
No idea what it's worth in real terms, but it's a pretty bike that would be a beauty with a bit of TLC, if it's local it's got to be worth a test ride if nothing else. If you decide to buy it bring up the rust and make an opening offer of about $120, but i'd probably pay the 200 if he dug his heels in, looks like a lot of potential there for a nice summer bike.
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>>1634345
You can buy a brand new one with free shipping for $329
https://www.citygrounds.com/products/golden-cycles-velo-7-sport-hybrid-bikes-2018?variant=31394408169583

For $329 you could get something really nice used though, depending upon your tastes, I picked up an 1993 Orange Clockwork with full XT/DX componentry in excellent condition for $280 a couple months ago, probably worth $400+ to the right buyer.
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>>1634354
Yeah think I'm going to just give it a test ride and see if it feels nice. Not a long term bike so if there's no obvious major defects you guys point out it's worth a try. Going to get the price down for sure
>>1634360
Sorry should've mentioned that it's also prohibitively expensive to ship things here to Hawaii. So there's a lot of Walmart bikes, high end bikes, and overpriced decent bikes. And then bikes are constantly stolen so its not worth investing in one since always locking it outside. That's why I'm considering this one.

Thanks for the help. Here's another rebuilt one at $300 to give an idea of options
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>>1634362
pic is tight buy that
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>>1633979
>>1633992

It seems the only cannondale bikes with a rack are the e-bikes, which is shitty
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>>1634418
you know you can attach a rack right
it's like 4 bolts
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>>1634420
I'm a white collar cityfag who has never touched a bolt before
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>>1634422
they're very small bolts
thinner than your dangus
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>>1634424
>thinner than your dangus
I don't think so, he said he is white collar, those faggots have needledicks
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Looking for:
>Upright riding position
>Hub gears
>Availible in UK
>Doesn't look gay
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>>1634434
>Looking for:
>>Upright riding position
fuck off
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>>1634453
wow, rude alert
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>>1634434
I think the part where you're looking for something available in the UK is going to be your sticking point right now, since pretty much everywhere is sold out. I can't help you but good luck regardless. My best bet would be to contact a local bike shop (not a chain but a smaller good one that sells actual brands and not cheap heavy single speeds with bright colours) and ask them to let you know when they have something that suits you in your size, and then you go and try it then buy it pretty much straight away.
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>>1634362
>steel bike in hawa-i
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$700 overpriced?
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>>1634535
I'd say it's about right. That's a damn nice bike.
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Tell me why the Kona unit x isn’t the ideal gravel bike for $1400 (plus tire swap and possibly bars)
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>>1634572
that's a mtb
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Want to buy new bike. I'm amateur.
Found this used one for 1200€.
From 2018
Claim to have 4k km behind.
Shimano 105.
Also bike size is 56 and I'm 188cm (6'2) is this bike too small?
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>>1634591
deal souds right, maybe a tad pricy but these times everything is
would keep looking for something that fits you better
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>>1634590
noooooooooo it's a Gravel Bike™ it's different nooooooo
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>>1634592
How big problem it is if i buy too small bike?
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>>1634590
I’ve never owned anything other than hardcore mountain bikes, this is the closest thing to a road bike I could see myself buying
I’m sure it looks different with small tires
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>>1634605
you can get away with riding it if you get a long ass stem and seatpost, but then you're fucking with your weight distribution, and your saddle-to-bar drop will be huge, so you won't be able to get a relaxed riding position
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>>1634605
I'm also just retarded but I rode a 56cm road bike at 190cm and it hurt my knees pretty bad after awhile. It's possible a professional fitting could've moved the saddle and everything so my knees would have felt better, but at that point just buy a bike that fits if you have money. Got a 62cm bike after
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>>1634606
the frame geometry is 100% that of a MTB
kona has plenty of gravel bikes, not sure why you'd pick a MTB and try to turn it into one
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Interesting in buying a used mountain bike with a budget of around $1000 (preferably less). Looking mostly at hardtails but honestly don't know what I should be looking for. Any brands or specific years I should look out for?
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If you want a gravel bike buy the best 90's mtb you can find and afford and go ride gravel
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>>1634605
Depends how much you value your knees.
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>>1634632
just look for any hardtails that don't have tourney/acera/alivio components or suntour forks
also look for hydraulic disc brakes
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>>1634422
the bike shop can do it for you. but you should try to be self reliant to some extent, it doesn't take a genius. keeping your tires inflated and changing tubes is essential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_2dAQvxvI
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>>1634418
and you know racks are supposed to be used together with bags right? in my country nobody knows shit about anything, they have racks that they don't even use.
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>>1634434
hub gears are cancer forget about that shit

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/bikes/gravel-bikes/
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>>1634636
I actually was looking a few days ago, a clean 89 rockhopper was already sold, but also do I really want to spend $500 on something with cantilever brakes
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>>1634594
adventure bike desu
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>>1634572
they are sick
i demod a regular unit once in the city and was surprised at how bmx-y it felt
bunnyhopping up curbs and riding down stairs all day
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>>1634630
A lot of gravel bikes seem like they’re 80% roadworthy, 20% dirtworthy. I want 80% dirt and 20% road, and I’ve used drop bars for maybe 4 hours of my entire life compared to decades of flat bar, I’m hesitant to spend any real money on an actual road bike
I’m really looking for something to spice up the trails, the possibility of having smooth tires and rigid for road would be a bonus
And yeah the geometry is super close to my Enduro SL bike and my YT Capra in a lot of ways, I’m hoping I’ll feel right at home on a mtb geometry bike
I’ve been looking into rigid lately because I’ve seen a lot of multi-day trail routes in my state and I’ve been thinking of trying one sometime this year
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>>1634572
Because every single steel marin is at or around that cost and are more beautiful bikes.

Check out Jamis if you want mtb geo with drop bars. The renegade is the one everyone luvs
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>>1634535
Yeah but the fork upgrade on there is 250 usd alone. And thats a great carboni forko.

Nishikis are hit and miss depending on build quality and level.
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>>1634434
State bicycle co makes a 3spd igh bike. Do they send em to bongisyan?
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>>1634743
Marin doesn't even have a competitor for it at the moment. They used to, that orange rigid pine mountain with QCd forks. I've ridden both and the unit is a nicer bike, by far.
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>>1634741
I would go for it. The issue to look out for is a rim width which limits you to plus size tires. So work out what you're getting. It changes between models. I think 2" is ideal for mixed gravel/road touring and anything bigger than 2.3 is just a drag.
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>>1634741
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>>1634744
the carbon fork COST money and i can see buying one situationally, like if you needed a new fork for a bike you really loved, but really, most people would maybe even prefer just a stock fork. I don't think it should be reflected in a sale price.
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>>1634751
this, any current bike from a top tier brand would have a nicer carbon fork
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>>1634741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng8__-8OgNA
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>>1634737
cantis can be sweet for gravlel unless you're planning on tackling garlier shit. lower weight and (probably) more compliant frame.
>>1634741
modern gravel bikes are optimized for more dirt than road, specifically doubletrack and gnarless xc where there's a shitload of climbing. tire clearance keeps going up. I think everyone's dick got hard for mega-endurance xc shit like the great divide race, so they want bikes that are capable of that, even tho they will never ever do anything of the sort

most road bikes are now for that 80% road 20% dirt road scenario, aside from the hardcore race bikes that nobody was buying pre-covid

that kona is in the niche of "I want a mtb and I also need to mount a bunch of shit on the fork so that I can cross mongolia unsupported," so basically your use case of multi-day trail routes. kinda weird how they put an ass-destroyer zero setback seatpost on there, and the front triangle is a wee bit tight for a large framebag
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https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/sacramento-carbon-fiber-road-bike/7301641534.html

They're asking $700
>Great condition road bike that is read to ride and does not need extra tuning
>Extremely light carbon fiber frame
>Only 15 lbs
>9 speed in rear cassette
>Size 54cm medium frame size (fits people about 5’6”-6’+)
>Rides very smooth, has good tires and tubes
>New grip tape
>Paint in great condition
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>>1635003
>carbon
>Only 15 lbs
>only
that's got to be some thick ass garbon right there.
also a 54cm frame will NOT fit someone "6 foot plus", holy fuck. yes you could physically ride it, but it won't by any means "fit".
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>>1635008
In 5’7”, I think 54cm is the right size for me
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>>1634751
>I don't think it should be reflected in a sale price.
it shouldn't but the used bike "market" is full of these "I know what I have" types who think a quick wash, splash of oil on the chain slapping fresh tyres and brake pads on (the latter is almost never done, they always have "plenty of wear left") constitutes "restoration" and doubles the value of a 90s shitmobile.
meanwhile, you're still looking at new wheels, entire drivetrain and bottom bracket/headset that need doing. "oh no but I put X worth of new parts on it and that's reflected in the price". fuck off.
you don't ask more money for a car because you've just done the timing belt and fitted new wiper blades, do you? this shit is exactly the same.
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>>1635010
it will be fine for you then, the seller is just full of shit about 6'+
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A Jones h-bar for gravel with mtb drivetrain/brakes? Stupid idea or not
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>>1634750
I mean the fact that non-mtb bikes actually come with 27mm rims is mind boggling enough, that was downhill-spec over a decade ago, my 2008 Enduro bike has 27mm rims
I’m coming from a lifetime of 2.2 - 2.6 tires and I’m scared that i won’t even feel fast on what is essentially a road bike with 2.2 tires, seems like you’re sacrificing the one thing that makes road bikes so god damn fast, to become a less-capable mtb rather than a more-capable road bike
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>>1635010
Sounds about right
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>>1631760
I'm a clueless beginner who is trying to buy a cheap and simple single speed bike for my short urban daily commute. I found one that fits my needs and budget, but I'm not sure which frame size I should go for.

I'm 180cm/5'11 inch tall and my inside leg measures around 85-86cm, so the ideal single speed/fixie bike frame size (based on some chart I found) is 56cm.

Sadly, this bike isn't available in that size. 54 and 58cm are my only options. Which one should I go for? Slightly bigger or slightly smaller?
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how did I do? bike was $178

2 year coverage (whatever that means) for $18

rode it 13-14 miles in the city and was very pleased. It's my first road bike.

the old school shifters are tricky because I have to take my hand off the bars, other than that it did good
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>>1635164
your legs are long for your height. This means that your torso is probably short for your height. Thus, I suggest buying a smaller bike, which will have the handlebars closer to the saddle, thus accommodating your shorter torso. Leg length isn't a problem, you can merely raise the seatpost (within the minimum insertion depth). (the distance of the handlebars to the saddle is adjustable, but requires changing out the stem, which is tricky if you aren't buying from a bike shop).

Furthermore: in general, smaller bikes are easier to adjust for larger riders, so it's always the safer option.

Of course, if you're buying directly from a shop, just try them out and have the shop help you pick what fits best.
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>>1633829
Not him, but I'd rather shill for buying an old steel bike off craigslist, getting some nice wheels and tires, and not worrying about garbon
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>>1633977
That's an amazing deal for a bike almost certainly built by some bike forums nutter, nice find
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>>1635166
trash
enjoy it while it lasts
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>>1634418
a good rack costs $40, get the topeak explorer
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>>1633970
poke holes in the tyres with a fork for weight reduction, and make sure you don't have your break qr locked so you don't fly otb the second you touch your break
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>>1634082
rockhoppers turned into a meme and collectors overpay for them, so I'd maybe pay $200 if it really is pristine and the tires are new, but the seller may be able to get more than that by waiting for some ebay boomer or /xbiking memer, so I'd keep looking
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>>1635170
That's helpful! Thank you (:

I can't try it out at the store sadly. I'm gonna order the smaller one now.
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>>1635175
I put like 4000mi on my last walmart bike... v2100 650b version

knowing what I know now this bike only really needs to do hard labor for 3 months until I get a motorcycle
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>>1634632
What type of riding are you planning to do? Riding a mtb on the road is going to kinda suck unless it's a 90s rigid meme machine, so unless you're actually going to be going offroad you may want to reconsider
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>>1635088
I'd ride it, but then again i'm also stupid
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>>1635088
>>1635185
I don't see any problems with it. Just don't do something stupid like change out road shifters/brakes for new mtb stuff just to use it.
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>>1635166
people will say its shit, but desu it's probably fine. Just don't expect it to last a long time, but it should ride ok-ish for a while. Make sure and triple check the brakes and tires before you ride, and listen for weird sounds
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need a recommendation for a road bike that will function comfortable on rail trails and other man made dirt paths, looking for comfort and longevity more than lightness/speed
AU$2000/US$1500 budget area
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>>1635103
the main thing that makes road bikes fast is aerodynamic and efficient pedaling body positioning from drop bars and their overall geometry.

You're not -really- getting that on a unit either. It IS a rigid mtb.
Perfect for your supposed use case. It's not a 'versatile' version of a mtb or a road bike. That's a ridiculous idea. ALL bikes are versatile. It simply fits within its own niche.

Maybe you want pic rel instead though.
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>>1635088
I met someone on tour who had one and he hated it and hacksawed off the front part.

I guess it's good if you want to run a bunch of retarded accessories and like riding with your hands next to the stem.
I don't think it's a particularly useful aero position. You'd be better off with centrally mounted barends
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>>1635190
GRX is the shimano gravel groupset
It has hydraulic disc brakes and ability to run slightly wider gearing than the road groups, and the derailers work better over bumps

Sora/Claris are specced on lower end gravel bikes. They're fine but you often get chinked on brakes.

Basically you want a gravel bike, and you're on the fence between those two levels of spec for price, say with a Giant Revolt 1 vs 2.
I'd also suggest you look used at high-end steel touring and meme bike builds because people often sell those at well below cost of parts to build and that would suit your purposes well too.
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>>1635198
thanks anon, gives me a great place to start
had an old steel marin rigid moutain bike once, definitely wouldn't say no to trying that out again on the second hand market
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>>1635200
all good
For your budget I meant more like a <5yo Surly or, better yet, something with higher spec steel tubing like a Ritchey. Ie, paying new bikes price for what would have been a $3000-$5000+ bike. People regret sell those pretty often. Really though, a new modern allum/carbon gravel bike like a revolt is very good for the money, just it's a bit sketchier if you crash it than steel.

The classic steel route makes sense if you luck out on a find, but only if you'll enjoy a project and atleast try to do most of the work yourself.

I'd offer to look through gumtree for you but fuck gumtree. If you find things you're thinking about post em here and we can give hot takes.
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>>1635206
Just looking at new bikes for new it looks like im looking at

Giant Revolt 2 (1 is a bit over budget desu unless I can find a sale on a new bike)
Merida Silex 300/400
Norco Search XR A2

Honestly feels like they'd all fit my needs and are in budget.

Searching bikeexchange and gumtree has netted me few results and nothing that looks tempting, but Aus is very big with a small population so finding used stuff within range is often difficult.
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>>1635193
I’m feeling this thing honestly, don’t know how much of the road/gravel experience I’m getting but it’s not quite mtb geometry and it has drop bars
But wtf this thing costs $1000 more than a unit x it has a dropper and road drivetrain but what else is the difference
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>>1634345
Got it for $150. Seems to shift well and run well and the guy cleaned up the rust. He knew even less than me about bikes which is impressive. Didn't know how to adjust seat or handlebars but very transparent. Gear shift feels very goofy.

Front brakes rub so I need to adjust basic stuff like that from the owner's assembly out of box. It was only ordered in December 2020 so I'm hoping rust hasn't done too much to speed up the inevitable. Going to put racks on it. Thanks for the help/advice.
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are tektro brakes as utter dogshit as they used to be? swore off them a while ago but i've found a gravel bike i like and the only 'issue' i have with it is the tektro brakes (MD-C500 Dual Piston to be exact), but given this is just for light gravel i assume i can be less picky than with my mtbs
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>>1635250
M A X X I S
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>>1635250
The Unit X has the lowest-tier Eagle groupset and Level brakes, while the road has Rival, which is solidly mid-tier, with better shifting and braking. Also it's around 3 pounds heavier. SRAM's road group is something you should try before you buy, though. I really dislike the controls. They don't fit well in my hands and the doubletap shifting sucks, particularly on rough terrain.
For multi-day bikepacking trips I like the Unit more, honestly, tho I'd really prefer something with Deore, like a Breezer Thunder. For riding trails but not racing, and you're routinely encountering stuff where tires wider than 50mm are good to have, drop bars don't make much sense to me, compared to flat or trekking.
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>>1635340
i drafted a guy who was sramed the other day every shift he made was painful *wait* THUNK
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>>1635308
not bad. be careful while shifting, because those aren't components meant for a 1x setup, so there's a high risk of dropping the chain. consider rotating the brake levers forward a bit, so your wrists are in a more natural position
also small tip, on most brake calipers there's a little round nut with flat sides which you can grab with a cone spanner or one of those cheap multi-spanners to adjust the caliper's position without having to loosen it or anything
pic is the cheap spanner I'm talking about, they usually come for free on brand new walmart-tier bikes
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>>1635164
>>1635180
Looks like you've made the right choice, but I'm the same height and inside leg as you. I went for 56 cm and it was a bit too big. I now ride 54 cm and it's perfect. Just wanted to let you know that you've made the right choice bro
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>>1635003
he's full of shit about the weight, the frame isn't the whole story, 15 lbs is hard to hit with those shitty components
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>>1635011
>you don't ask more money for a car because you've just done the timing belt
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>>1635003
>Wow, was it impossible to find out the weight of this bike, or what?! The guys at the store didn't know - all they knew was that the Team Squadra [odd name: 'Team-Team'...] was supposedly 16½lb. So I listed the differences in build-up between the Squadra and the 'Team-Team'[!], ok, the 'Team Squadra', and from the various manufacturer's sites, I came up with a 475g difference, making the Squadra 17.55lbs [based on the rep's quote of 16½ for the Team].There was nothing for it but to buy it and see!! No really, I was dying to get it - I just wanted to know for myself if it had much of a weight difference over my own '04 Tre k 2300. It did, by almost 1½lbs, with the Squadra [size large/56cm] weighing 17.6lbs [digital hanging scale & verified on balance weight scale].BTW, if you research the bike on the web, there's a video showing on bike and video sites [not Novara related], where a Novara guy says that the Team Squadra is 15¼lbs and that the Squadra is 16½lbs. The video is now viewable on many sites, but like Flavor Flav says, "don't believe the hype!" Lighter than a Cerv Soloist? Actually, no! And the only difference with those bikes in the video is what looks like a different stem on the Team, and Fulcrum 3 & 7 wheels [swapped to Ksyrium/Aksium for production, making the Team even lighter, by 3oz - what, 15lb even?! Nope... So the Team and Squadra are 1¼lbs & 1lb heavier respectively than claimed in the video.
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>>1634105
>>1635179
Why the fuck are these a collector's item? Maybe a stump jumper, but what's next? Hardrocks?
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>>1635011
i agree but if you're looking for a used bike you shouldn't be too greedy and picky about finding a real bargain or you might be looking for months and still not find something that you're happy with. if you aren't a desperate poorfag you might as well accept that things cost money and get yourself a decent brand new bike. most used bike will seem like a terrible deal once you find out how much money you'll spend on repairs and accessories anyway and when you learn more about how technologically obsolete the bike is and what it might have gone through in terms of wear and tear. it almost needs to be a poverty commuter bike that you're going to lock up outside at school or a bike that you have some kind of boomer nostalgia boner for.
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>>1635440
you are retarded. Don't jump on a sensible thing that I said without a 'not me but'.

btw do you even have a bicycle yet?
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>>1635441
cope
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>>1635443
cope about what?
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>>1635444
by complaining about sleazebags who ask a bit too much for their bike (probably leaving room for negotiation anyway) you risk being as obnoxious as the people you're complaining about. from their perspective you're a tire kicking lowball cheapskate.
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>>1635446
>by complaining you risk being obnoxious
That ship has long since sailed for the both of us, friend
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>>1635446
>they're probably leaving room for negotiation
>saying the price is too high, ie, it warrants haggling, is tire kicking lowballing

which one is it?
Of course 'i know what i got' boomerfags think they're being lowballed by everyone. The real question is if they are or not.

Your idea that used bikes don't actually make sense to buy also doesn't gel with your idea that they are fairly priced.
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is there a cheap shimano with hydraulic brake on a drop bar lever for 9 speed?
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>>1635451
no
hydro STIs start at 10/11spd GRX or 11spd 105

better mech discs are ok though. Spyres etc. Make sure dual piston.
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>>1635452
thank you, am I wasting my hard earned money for a folding bike with dropbar and hydraulic brake setup?
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>>1635453
gratuitously nice bicycles are not a waste of money
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>>1635455
okay thanks, any cheaper alternative aside from grx and 105?
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>>1635456
to hydraulic braking shimano STIs?
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>>1635458
yes
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>>1635459
No retard, i just fucking said that
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>>1635461
okay sorry
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>>1635435
everything is a meme collectors item now, didn't yuou get the mememeo
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Trek is a great brand
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Is this brand worth the money?
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>>1635499
>tourney
>quill stem
>re:zero
no
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>>1635446
you're replying to at least two different people anon. I'm >>1635011 but not >>1635441 or >>1635444
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>>1635502
also I'm willing to bet you're one of these "I know what I got" cunts who think people are lowballing you for your shitty used bike that's immediately going to need at least what you're wanting for it in new parts.
>>1635440
>most used bike will seem like a terrible deal once you find out how much money you'll spend on repairs and accessories anyway and when you learn more about how technologically obsolete the bike is and what it might have gone through in terms of wear and tear.
nice blog post, but I do actually agree. shit, I was GIVEN a used bike (in good condition, at that) and I've still pissed away at least as much as it cost new in parts.
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>>1635503
(You)'re the schizo, friend.
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>>1635503
/n/ is just one schizo talking to themselves
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>>1635510
no I'm not
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Is 105 really the minimum if you’re buying new?
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>>1635555
hydro tiagra
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>>1635555
claris is the minimum, everything more is bling
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>>1635375
Ah that's the exact sort of thing I don't know about. Can you explain or link reading/video on why these components aren't fit for 1x chainring? I'll rotate the brake levers and learn other adjustments.
I appreciate the caliper tip - lbs gave me that wrench once. Thanks again
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>>1635555
Just get a used bike a few years old with 105 and spend the difference between the cost of a new bike and the used bike on a really nice set of wheels
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>>1635499
Looks like walmart-tier junk for people who never plan on breaking the 10mph barrier, but it's a lot cheaper than a Cannondale so if you want it and it's in stock, whatever.
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>>1635499
low end new bikes are almost never worth it compared to quality used bikes. Unless you're just planning on hanging it on your wall and never riding it or something, in which case, yea it looks kinda pretty
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>>1635448
you have to face reality, there are desperate poorfags/cheapskates who won't spend $900+ on a bicycle, so the demand will be inflated. while you can laugh at 'i know what i got' boomers, your opinion is mostly irrelevant, because most of them will find a buyer eventually, and the rare good deals that come up will get flooded with dozens of messages within minutes. if you're desperate enough to look for a used bike you have to accept that you will likely pay a premium over the bike's "true" value, there's no free lunch. even real shit bikes are thought to be worth $50+, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
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in my country there's a $5 listing fee for the craigslist equivalent, and 10% commission on the ebay equivalent. there's little reason to bother selling a $100 bike when you lose $5 instantly with no guarantee of selling it. so you'll ask $150 or $200. people are delusional enough to ask like $200 for a bike that cost like $250 new. when dealing with bikes in general you're saying your time is basically worthless because you have to interact with scummy people (both on the buy and sell side) and spend hours ordering parts and wrenching on the bike.
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>>1635894
>in my country
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pls tell me that a bike like this couldnt possibly be worth 900 euros
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When should I buy a gravel bike and when should I buy a mountain bike?
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>>1636117
Mountain bike is for mountains
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>>1636117
gravel bikes are better at going up, mtbs are better for going down
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What do you think
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Thoughts? Aussie Dollars BTW (1500US give or take)
Never had experience with Merida
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>>1636261
Meridas are just Speshs with a slighly worse agent. The scultura is the classic road I assume thats an all road bike of some sort?
>>1636117
Do you do technical trails? Then mtb.
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>>1635894
My neighborhood has a big garage sale twice a year and the Mexicans and hicks come by and buy everything from old grills to bikes to fridges. Flippers and collectors hit up all the neighborhood sales.
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>>1635750
Idk I think you can get 5000 miles out of a 350 usd Dicks or Target 3x7 freewheel bike. Thats not bad bang for your buck.

An old bike lasts longer but is like a tempermental old woman. A doofy 3x7 sporting goods bike is easy mode.
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>>1636224
Best value bike in existence. Brakes should be
upgraded to TRP Spyre or Yokozuna Ultimo tho. Fucking amazing that any are in stock anywhere. Hope 52cm is a good fit for you.
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>>1636311
It's their 'Gravel' model Want it for the fiance for gravel road and path stuff
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Is this a legit site?
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Custom frame build
I have to make some decisions
My aim is to have a really nice Sport Tourer, big budget

What width to build the frame too
What brakes
What groupset

I'm really not sure at this point
Currently thinking about
35 mm width
Force wide groupset utilising Tektro mini V brakes

Thoughts? Stanforth seems to use road bike group set, 35 mm and disc brakes

https://www.stanforthbikes.co.uk/stanforthconway
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Alright, need some opinions on the Priority Continuum Onyx as a city commuter bike. It retails for $1200, but I placed a hold on a returned bike that's $800.

The salesman was pimping out its internal drivetrain with a belt rather than a chain, said it didn't need oil and wouldn't slip. Seems like marketing BS to me but the reviews for the bike are good, so I'm just wondering if anyone has thoughts on if it's just a gimmick
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>>1636411
>custom build
>doesn't know what he wants
yikes
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>>1636548
it's cancerous normie bait
heavy and low drivetrain efficiency
get a cannondale quick 3
cannondale is a top brand, priority is a dime a dozen hipster ripoff brand
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>>1636548
also the fact that it was returned is a red flag
these small brands can't even get the manufacturing right, it's all too common for the frame to be warped (hard to spot with the naked eye) and it won't have the stiffness/weight ratio that it should have
and they cut a lot of corners, only 3 different frame sizes etc
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>>1636571
>>1636574

Thanks for the response and good points. The extra 6 lbs of the drive train isn't ideal but I'm mainly using it for commuting and running errands. The continuous drivetrain is a loss of about 1 mph on flat ground (my city is completely flat).
>it's cancerous normie bait
Indeed, I am a normie upgrading from bikeshare.
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>>1636668
>my city is completely flat
a fixed gear bike would be incredibly based
>fun
>lightweight
>low maintenance
>good quality for the price
>not very desirable for thieves
>steel frame can take a beating
>nice ride quality from the chromoly steel
>severely underrated performance wise, faster than most bikes if the elevation changes aren't too bad
https://www.fujibikes.com/usa/bikes/pavement/urban/feather/feather
https://wabicycles.com/collections/ssfixed





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