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What's up with Boeing these days?
so was there any actual danger here?
apparently this happened in the netherlands today toohttps://twitter.com/meraklihavaci/status/1363179519885119492
Seems like Boeing is looking into the pod racing business.
>>1612583Neva Kee FTWSo t seems the FADEC continued to try and operate despite the pilots wishes? Also, fire suppression seems to fail if it was even deployed at all?
777 is statistically the safest bird in the skies. I'm not going to defend the MAX but this aircraft comes from a different time in the companies' history when it was run by white people who cared.
>>1612573Tbh I dont think Boeing is responsible for an engine grenading itselfThe question is what caused it not to be contained
>>1612601they really do be like that
Airlines moving maintenance to non union shops in Latin America.
>retards ITT think Boeing manufactures the engines
>>1612622>Imagine if Boeing actualy manufactured the engines
>>1612573The engines are not made by boeing.The fact that it wa stabled airborne and landed safely and smoothly is a testament to boeing.
>>1612580Not really.>>1612573The plane was built in 1994.
>>1612641t. boeing engineer
>>1612648sir pls do the needful
>>1612622Anyone with a brain knows it was GE being that it's United.
>>1612573>The state of United Airlines maintenance.
>made in america>it's garbage worse than chinese tier qualityeverytime
>>1612580I’m going to try and strike a balance between informative and cutting out extraneous information here.Any transport category airplane operated by a western nation is certified to safely operate away from any terrain along the planned route. In addition they’re certified to safely climb away from an engine failure after a predetermined go/no-go speed on the takeoff roll. As long as the engine failure is contained (this one was as the fire was successfully combated by the aircraft’s systems and there was no catastrophic to the fuselage or the superstructure of the wing) then the airplane should perform as advertised.In short, with a competent crew and serviceable airframe (not engine, as this thread would have you believe) this jet was perfectly safe if in an emergency situation.
would rather fly on two engines like that versus flying on anything made in china
>imagine living in America, and having engine parts land in your garden
>>1612573>>1612575If it's Boeing it ain't going.
>>1612580Not really. Whats the ETOPS on a 777? If its fine for it to lose an engine in the middle of the ocean then its fine for it to lose an engine a few miles from an airport.
>>1612668Here's the English version
>>1612668New truck and home remodeling on UA.
>>1612674Forgot to post linkhttps://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-engine-parts-rain-down-on-dutch-village-after-engine-fire/
>>1612683Cargo 747s are usually ancient and not maintained rigorously
>>1612586does not mean that such people are currently maintaining them
>>1612665made in america from chinese components
>>1612654>retard ITT can't check tail numbers to know it was actually a P&W engine
>>1612641>The fact that it wa stabled airborne and landed safelyi mean it fucking betterif a plane cant manage an engine failure then its trash
>>1612686And maintained in Mexico
>>1612586By what metric? The A340 hasn't claimed a single life in 30 years, so what are we counting?
>>1612573Retard here. If you took away the engine covers in normal flight, would you see flames like that?>>1612668That would be pretty fucking dope. Imagine having that as a table or something.
If it’s Boeing, the engine ain’t going
lol just me scattering engine casing into your front yards
>>1612667Read somewhere that the chinkies put less metal in the wing struts on their ARJ21 (clone of DC9)
>>1612668Reminds me of when Colombia blew up on re-entry and scattered parts across the Southern US.I wonder what the legality is of keeping the debries if they fall in your yard.I would say $50,000 and you can have it back.
>>1612715how many hours have 777's flown compared to A340's?
>>1612765I see why it failedThey let fucking BEES in
Engines are not made by Boeing. >GE>Rolls Royce>Safran>Pratt Whitneyand whatever smaller companies or collab companies are the ones who make the engines. Now the maintenance of the engines after they have left the production line and are attached to the planes and delivered to the airliner, that's more on the airliners.
>>1612766you're not going to get a better statistic than 0 deaths/x flight hours
>you will never stand autistically in front of engine debris at your own home
>>1612771That's one hell of an ornament, I hope he keeps it there
Third world shithole airlines are known to neglect basic maintenance on their planes. Where did this happen again?
>>1612767Nomex composite honeycomb, used as a filler in the sandwich panel. The black sheets on either side are carbon fiber
>>1612573>boeing makes enginesplzgo
>>1612674At least it’s not the Scottish version
>>1612665To be honest any time I see something labeled as made in america I become very skeptical of the quality.
>>1612763>I wonder what the legality is of keeping the debries if they fall in your yard.It's illegal but for the shuttle they offered an amnesty and got debris from both losses
>>1612733>Imagine having that as a table or something.except they'll come and take it away for "investigation"
>>1612853>"investigation"do you not think they want to know why the engine spontaneously disassembled?
'I just knew something was not right. The dissasembled engine in the sky, the fire, the Boeing....'
>>1612937Ok honest question. What if the incident were at 30000ft high and in the middle of the ocean? Would they be fucked? How long can a 777 fly with one engine? Can the damaged engine explode or something?
>>1612941>What if the incident were at 30000ft high and in the middle of the ocean?a 777 has an etops180 rating>Can the damaged engine explode or something?not likely. its just hot deadweight at that point
>>1612668>28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds
IF ITS BOEING I AINT GOINGThe Americain industry is becoming the new "Made in China"
>>1612573They've gone to shit.
People think everything is static and not subject to changes.Nope, empires rise and fall.Made in Germany was something introduced by the Britshits to denounce German products, a sign of inferiority, but later it became way better than anything Made in UK.Same with made in Japan.Also, if it's a Boeing I ain't going.It's ridiculous how these machines are not blacklisted just because it's American.
Both the exploded Denver engine and the exploded Maastricht engine were made by Pratt & Whitney.
>>1612941maybe im missing something here but is it really possible to control the plane at all if the other side does not have a working engine?
>>1613007Yes, the ETOPS rating is how far a plane is approved to go on a single engine.777 has an ETOPS-180 rating meaning it is approved to fly for 3 hours on a single engine, and nowhere on its route will it ever be further than that from a diversionary airport
>>1612998>>1613000>>1612961boeing dont make engines tho...a plane can operate safely with one engine in an emergenystop being so dramatic
>>1612938nah it's outside the boxbut VAR is so shit that Mike Dean would give it a penalty
>>1613001Gee, sounds like Boeing's engines had a major Prattfall!
>>1612843Fuck that. You throw shit in my yard, it's mine now.
>>1613091>it's mine now.its yours if the group with the greatest capacity for violence says its ok and they said its not
>>1612573>engine failure>blame boeing???
If it's Boeing I ain't going
>>1613210>Boeing>give it a bombardier noseAs a cartoonist they should be able to at least make it look close
Avoid this meme company if you value your life /n/
>>1613245Inb4 random small fatigue crack that was missed in maitainace becuse they're hard to find and nothing out of the ordinary apart from the spectacular nature of the failure happened
>Americans circumcise their jet engines
>>1612666>no catastrophic to the fuselage or the superstructure of the wingfuel lines and hydraulic lines are fine too
>>1612683noice>>1612671dont worry Boeing can come to you
PW4000coming to a town near you!
Similar thing happened with the same engine in Japan last year, december.https://www.aeroinside.com/15113/jal-b772-at-okinawa-on-dec-4th-2020-engine-shut-down-in-flight-after-uncontained-failure-parts-of-engine-cowl-dropped
>>1613425>>1613443PW4000 engined aircraft banned from UK airspace.Because most European 777s have either the Trent 800 or GE90 engines, they're deemed fine.
how would /our maan/ have handled the emergency?
>>1612573>What's up with Boeing these days?They took management lessons from the Chinese.
>>1613470Continued on to Honolulu
>>1612772Anon wants to calculate MTBD (mean time between deaths)
>>1612941>How long can a 777 fly with one engine?Go look up the Gimly Glider.
>>1613474Then landed it on another plane taxiing onto the runway.
>>1613482>Gimly Gliderthat was no engines on a 767 though
>>1613453That shaking of the air frame.
https://breaking911.com/breaking-boeing-delta-flight-diverted-to-salt-lake-city-after-engine-issues/IT KEEPS HAPPENING
IF IT'S BOEING
are you ready to hear about everytime an engine farts for the next 3 months?
>>1613527Additional aircraft details: The aircraft is approx 16 years old and the engines on the #Boeing757 are made by Pratt & Whitneyhttps://twitter.com/SLCScanner/status/1364001880129507329
>>1612843>>1613091>The official NASA report omitted some of the more graphic details on the recovery of the remains.>Witnesses reported finds such as a skull, human heart, a portion of an upper torso, and parts of femur bones.Imagine finding a human heart in your front yard.
>>1613578>Imagine finding a human heart in your front yard.Finally something to replace my broken one
>>1612672The thing is though, I *think* ETOPS assumes one engine shuts down quietly and spins in the wind. Not say, an engine seizing (stopped fan will generate more drag), falling off, or having a blade-out event.I've tried to look for information on this, but haven't found anything.
>The American Boeing F-15 GSE concept is used to launch satellites. If the Americans can continue to develop it, it will appear many years before the Russian Kh-47M2. In theory, F-15 can also be a strategic aircraft carrying ICBM.a nuke....on a boeing....
>>1613627Hollow chainring levels of autism
>>1613633That structure is more tough than a solid one.
Boeing bros... I don't feel so good...
Hey at least the earlier identical 'incident' was ok because that time the cowling didn't fall off and total some guy's truck.
>>1613470>b-but sir the engine is at risk of falling off>I DON'T FUCKING CARE YOU INFERIOR FUCK, WE GAAN TO HAWAII AND YOU'RE GONNA WATCH ME FUCK EVERY LUAU DANCER
> Boeing shills bleating about P&W engines> implying Boeing didn't outsource maintenance of engines and parts to Eritrea or some shitWhen they find human urine traces and metal shavings in 4/5 Boeing maintained engines, we'll all know who's to blame.
>>1612777requesting big guys edit
>>1613578>skull>human heartwhat pathetic loot after such a major quest
>>1613547You could say Engaaaan
>>1613627So yes according to the preliminary reportsShit was crackedShit broke during a stressful period Shit looked spectacular doing itNothing particularly unusual
>>1613578Also on challenger it didnt explode and kind of just broke up due to aero loads but the crew compartment was intactThey think it's likely the crew were conscious during the 2+min descent Spaceflight is gnarly when it goes wrong
>>1613640"The cowling is technically not part of the engine, so it's perfectly fine, safe and normal"
>>1613084>nah it's outside the boxI've seen them given.
This is a hull loss, right?
>>1613823Nah, they can patch it up an sell it to an african or indonesian airline
>>1613823Tim get me some aluminum and some rivets.
>>1613547pratt is too busy fucking whitney to notice his engines are fucked
>>1613823I'd call that more of a hull less
>>1613823even if the debris went right through out the other side of the passenger cabin it wouldn't be a hull lossthey probably won't even need to replace the entire starboard wing
>>1613944Are they going to bother repairing wingbox on a 26.3 years old airframe though?
>>1613823>This is a hull loss, right?Maybe.
>>1614089You mean easy for it to deteriorate further underneath the fixThere were numerous cases where such things happened, usually in the air, with catastrophic results
>>1612622>we didn’t make the engine we just carefully selected it and installed it onto our planeWow that makes me feel better
>>1614104>catastrophic resultseven that is underselling it
>>1612775ooooooor they can get a shitload of money from boeing to avoid a lawsuit
>just realized what Boeing stands for now:BitsOfEngineInNeighborsGarden
>>1613354>dont worry Boeing can come to youShit, now I'm scared
>>1614220Are you having a stroke?
>>1612573yep IM STILL AINT GOING
>>1612667the difference is the average chink drones are probably smarter than the chicanos and blacks assembeling in the car and aviation plants in the US nowadays
>>1613646>TOWER SET UP THE RUNWAY>WE'LL GAAN FOR THE HIGH SCORE
>>1614268Not really, the average chink """"person"""" is surprisingly stupid
>>1614363if they're in a row like in the image, how many planes would the landing one even go through before being stopped by the wreckage?
>>1614363>>1614410This almost happenedhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-ETmZU0u8https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7FR7TjnME
>>1614471Doesn't SFO have much narrower gap between the runway and the taxiways than most airports of that size? They also seem to have ILS go out of service very often. What's going on there?
>>1614471If visibility had been very bad would a 'reverse gaaan' have occured here? because it looks like that plane was about to plough into four or five fully fueled other planes.
>>1614471Both pilots sound like fuckups. Captain was "too tired" to report it until the CVR was overwritten. Co was passed over twice for promotion as a weak candidate, lack of situational awareness. You should get to see your surgeon or pilots record beforehand.
>>1612715three accidents involving 777's have had fatalities:one was shot down by some idiot vatnikone was presumably flown out into the indian ocean as part of the captain's suicideone was flown into a seawall by some non-whites who didn't even bother to monitor their airspeed and then stubbornly refused to go around. even then the 777 held up astoundingly well and there were only three fatalities (it could have easily been 100% fatality crash)
>>1614771At least one of the Asiana fatalities was because the fire department ran over someone at the crash
>>1614778>During the crash, two of the inflatable chutes deployed into the cabin. The first chute, which blocked the forward right exit, nearly suffocated a flight attendant and was deflated by a pilot with a fire axe from the cockpit.The second chute expanded toward the center of the aircraft near the fire. It trapped a second flight attendant until a co-pilot deflated it with a dinner knifeWhat a shitshow
>>1614787"plane angered by mishandling attempts to take revenge on flight crew""we had to stab it into submission" one unidentified crewmember claims
>>1614858you will never be a woman