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What's up with Boeing these days?
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>https://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/1363243840166100993
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so was there any actual danger here?
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apparently this happened in the netherlands today too
https://twitter.com/meraklihavaci/status/1363179519885119492
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Seems like Boeing is looking into the pod racing business.
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>>1612583
Neva Kee FTW

So t seems the FADEC continued to try and operate despite the pilots wishes? Also, fire suppression seems to fail if it was even deployed at all?
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777 is statistically the safest bird in the skies. I'm not going to defend the MAX but this aircraft comes from a different time in the companies' history when it was run by white people who cared.
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>>1612573
Tbh I dont think Boeing is responsible for an engine grenading itself

The question is what caused it not to be contained
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>>1612583
lel
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https://twitter.com/chrisvanderveen/status/1363232875232063493

>americlaps
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>>1612601
they really do be like that
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Airlines moving maintenance to non union shops in Latin America.
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>retards ITT think Boeing manufactures the engines
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>>1612622
>Imagine if Boeing actualy manufactured the engines
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>>1612573
The engines are not made by boeing.
The fact that it wa stabled airborne and landed safely and smoothly is a testament to boeing.
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>>1612580
Not really.

>>1612573
The plane was built in 1994.
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>>1612641
t. boeing engineer
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>>1612646
t. zhang
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>>1612648
sir pls do the needful
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>>1612622
Anyone with a brain knows it was GE being that it's United.
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>>1612573
>The state of United Airlines maintenance.
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>made in america
>it's garbage worse than chinese tier quality
everytime
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>>1612580
I’m going to try and strike a balance between informative and cutting out extraneous information here.
Any transport category airplane operated by a western nation is certified to safely operate away from any terrain along the planned route. In addition they’re certified to safely climb away from an engine failure after a predetermined go/no-go speed on the takeoff roll. As long as the engine failure is contained (this one was as the fire was successfully combated by the aircraft’s systems and there was no catastrophic to the fuselage or the superstructure of the wing) then the airplane should perform as advertised.

In short, with a competent crew and serviceable airframe (not engine, as this thread would have you believe) this jet was perfectly safe if in an emergency situation.
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would rather fly on two engines like that versus flying on anything made in china
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>imagine living in America, and having engine parts land in your garden
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>>1612573
>>1612575
If it's Boeing it ain't going.
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>>1612580
Not really. Whats the ETOPS on a 777? If its fine for it to lose an engine in the middle of the ocean then its fine for it to lose an engine a few miles from an airport.
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>>1612668
Here's the English version
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>>1612573
Gaan?
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>>1612668
New truck and home remodeling on UA.
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>>1612674
Forgot to post link
https://simpleflying.com/boeing-747-engine-parts-rain-down-on-dutch-village-after-engine-fire/
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>>1612683
Cargo 747s are usually ancient and not maintained rigorously
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>>1612586
does not mean that such people are currently maintaining them
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>>1612665
made in america from chinese components
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>>1612654
>retard ITT can't check tail numbers to know it was actually a P&W engine
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>>1612641
>The fact that it wa stabled airborne and landed safely
i mean it fucking better
if a plane cant manage an engine failure then its trash
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>>1612686
And maintained in Mexico
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>>1612586
By what metric? The A340 hasn't claimed a single life in 30 years, so what are we counting?
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>>1612573
Retard here. If you took away the engine covers in normal flight, would you see flames like that?

>>1612668
That would be pretty fucking dope. Imagine having that as a table or something.
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>>1612733
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj4w7i-TqsE
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If it’s Boeing, the engine ain’t going
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lol just me scattering engine casing into your front yards
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>>1612667
Read somewhere that the chinkies put less metal in the wing struts on their ARJ21 (clone of DC9)
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>>1612668
Reminds me of when Colombia blew up on re-entry and scattered parts across the Southern US.

I wonder what the legality is of keeping the debries if they fall in your yard.
I would say $50,000 and you can have it back.
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>>1612715
how many hours have 777's flown compared to A340's?
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>>1612765
I see why it failed
They let fucking BEES in
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Engines are not made by Boeing.
>GE
>Rolls Royce
>Safran
>Pratt Whitney
and whatever smaller companies or collab companies are the ones who make the engines. Now the maintenance of the engines after they have left the production line and are attached to the planes and delivered to the airliner, that's more on the airliners.
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>>1612766
you're not going to get a better statistic than 0 deaths/x flight hours
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>you will never stand autistically in front of engine debris at your own home
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>>1612771
That's one hell of an ornament, I hope he keeps it there
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>>1612774
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Third world shithole airlines are known to neglect basic maintenance on their planes. Where did this happen again?
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>>1612767
Nomex composite honeycomb, used as a filler in the sandwich panel. The black sheets on either side are carbon fiber
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>>1612573
>boeing makes engines

plzgo
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>>1612674
At least it’s not the Scottish version
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>>1612787
Too soon
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>>1612583
https://youtu.be/qWIh07-lyZ8
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>>1612665

To be honest any time I see something labeled as made in america I become very skeptical of the quality.
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>>1612767
Lmao
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>>1612763
>I wonder what the legality is of keeping the debries if they fall in your yard.
It's illegal but for the shuttle they offered an amnesty and got debris from both losses
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>>1612733
>Imagine having that as a table or something.
except they'll come and take it away for "investigation"
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>>1612853
>"investigation"
do you not think they want to know why the engine spontaneously disassembled?
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'I just knew something was not right. The dissasembled engine in the sky, the fire, the Boeing....'
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Clear penalty.
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>>1612937
Ok honest question. What if the incident were at 30000ft high and in the middle of the ocean? Would they be fucked? How long can a 777 fly with one engine? Can the damaged engine explode or something?
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>>1612941
>What if the incident were at 30000ft high and in the middle of the ocean?
a 777 has an etops180 rating

>Can the damaged engine explode or something?
not likely. its just hot deadweight at that point
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>>1612668
>28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds
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IF ITS BOEING I AINT GOING

The Americain industry is becoming the new "Made in China"
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>>1612573
They've gone to shit.
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People think everything is static and not subject to changes.
Nope, empires rise and fall.

Made in Germany was something introduced by the Britshits to denounce German products, a sign of inferiority, but later it became way better than anything Made in UK.
Same with made in Japan.

Also, if it's a Boeing I ain't going.

It's ridiculous how these machines are not blacklisted just because it's American.
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Both the exploded Denver engine and the exploded Maastricht engine were made by Pratt & Whitney.
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>>1612941
maybe im missing something here but is it really possible to control the plane at all if the other side does not have a working engine?
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>>1613007
Yes, the ETOPS rating is how far a plane is approved to go on a single engine.
777 has an ETOPS-180 rating meaning it is approved to fly for 3 hours on a single engine, and nowhere on its route will it ever be further than that from a diversionary airport
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>>1612998
>>1613000
>>1612961
boeing dont make engines tho...
a plane can operate safely with one engine in an emergeny

stop being so dramatic
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>>1612938
nah it's outside the box
but VAR is so shit that Mike Dean would give it a penalty
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>>1613001
Gee, sounds like Boeing's engines had a major Prattfall!
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>>1612843

Fuck that. You throw shit in my yard, it's mine now.
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>>1613091
>it's mine now.
its yours if the group with the greatest capacity for violence says its ok and they said its not
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>>1612573
>engine failure
>blame boeing
???
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If it's Boeing I ain't going
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>>1613210
>Boeing
>give it a bombardier nose

As a cartoonist they should be able to at least make it look close
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Avoid this meme company if you value your life /n/
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BOING
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>>1613245
Inb4 random small fatigue crack that was missed in maitainace becuse they're hard to find and nothing out of the ordinary apart from the spectacular nature of the failure happened
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>Americans circumcise their jet engines
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>>1612666
>no catastrophic to the fuselage or the superstructure of the wing
fuel lines and hydraulic lines are fine too
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>>1612683
noice
>>1612671
dont worry Boeing can come to you
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>PW4000 disintegrates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_2708
https://avherald.com/h?article=4b4e8ca7&opt=0
https://avherald.com/h?article=4e35302b&opt=0
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PW4000
coming to a town near you!
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Similar thing happened with the same engine in Japan last year, december.

https://www.aeroinside.com/15113/jal-b772-at-okinawa-on-dec-4th-2020-engine-shut-down-in-flight-after-uncontained-failure-parts-of-engine-cowl-dropped
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>>1613452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZm9XLGCwrE
passenger footage.
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>>1613425
>>1613443
PW4000 engined aircraft banned from UK airspace.
Because most European 777s have either the Trent 800 or GE90 engines, they're deemed fine.
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how would /our maan/ have handled the emergency?
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>>1612573
>What's up with Boeing these days?
They took management lessons from the Chinese.
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>>1613470
Continued on to Honolulu
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>>1612772
Anon wants to calculate MTBD (mean time between deaths)
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>>1612941
>How long can a 777 fly with one engine?
Go look up the Gimly Glider.
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>>1613474
Then landed it on another plane taxiing onto the runway.
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>>1613482
>Gimly Glider
that was no engines on a 767 though
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>>1613453
That shaking of the air frame.
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https://breaking911.com/breaking-boeing-delta-flight-diverted-to-salt-lake-city-after-engine-issues/
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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IF IT'S BOEING
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are you ready to hear about everytime an engine farts for the next 3 months?
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>>1613527
Additional aircraft details: The aircraft is approx 16 years old and the engines on the #Boeing757 are made by Pratt & Whitney

https://twitter.com/SLCScanner/status/1364001880129507329
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>>1613541
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>>1612573
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>>1612843
>>1613091
>The official NASA report omitted some of the more graphic details on the recovery of the remains.
>Witnesses reported finds such as a skull, human heart, a portion of an upper torso, and parts of femur bones.
Imagine finding a human heart in your front yard.
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>>1613297
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>>1613578
>Imagine finding a human heart in your front yard.
Finally something to replace my broken one
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>>1612672
The thing is though, I *think* ETOPS assumes one engine shuts down quietly and spins in the wind. Not say, an engine seizing (stopped fan will generate more drag), falling off, or having a blade-out event.

I've tried to look for information on this, but haven't found anything.
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>The American Boeing F-15 GSE concept is used to launch satellites. If the Americans can continue to develop it, it will appear many years before the Russian Kh-47M2. In theory, F-15 can also be a strategic aircraft carrying ICBM.
a nuke....
on a boeing....
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>>1613627
Hollow chainring levels of autism
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>>1613633
That structure is more tough than a solid one.
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Boeing bros... I don't feel so good...
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Hey at least the earlier identical 'incident' was ok because that time the cowling didn't fall off and total some guy's truck.
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>>1613470
>b-but sir the engine is at risk of falling off
>I DON'T FUCKING CARE YOU INFERIOR FUCK, WE GAAN TO HAWAII AND YOU'RE GONNA WATCH ME FUCK EVERY LUAU DANCER
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> Boeing shills bleating about P&W engines
> implying Boeing didn't outsource maintenance of engines and parts to Eritrea or some shit
When they find human urine traces and metal shavings in 4/5 Boeing maintained engines, we'll all know who's to blame.
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>>1612777
requesting big guys edit
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>>1613578
>skull
>human heart
what pathetic loot after such a major quest
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>>1613547
EnGones
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>>1613547
You could say Engaaaan
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>>1613627
So yes according to the preliminary reports
Shit was cracked
Shit broke during a stressful period
Shit looked spectacular doing it
Nothing particularly unusual
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>>1613578
Also on challenger it didnt explode and kind of just broke up due to aero loads but the crew compartment was intact
They think it's likely the crew were conscious during the 2+min descent

Spaceflight is gnarly when it goes wrong
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>>1613640
"The cowling is technically not part of the engine, so it's perfectly fine, safe and normal"
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>>1613084
>nah it's outside the box
I've seen them given.
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This is a hull loss, right?
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>>1613823
Nah, they can patch it up an sell it to an african or indonesian airline
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>>1613823
Tim get me some aluminum and some rivets.
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>>1613547
pratt is too busy fucking whitney to notice his engines are fucked
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>>1613823
I'd call that more of a hull less
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>>1613823
even if the debris went right through out the other side of the passenger cabin it wouldn't be a hull loss
they probably won't even need to replace the entire starboard wing
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>>1613944
Are they going to bother repairing wingbox on a 26.3 years old airframe though?
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>>1613823
>This is a hull loss, right?
Maybe.
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>>1613823
ez fix
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>>1614089
You mean easy for it to deteriorate further underneath the fix
There were numerous cases where such things happened, usually in the air, with catastrophic results
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>>1612622
>we didn’t make the engine we just carefully selected it and installed it onto our plane

Wow that makes me feel better
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>>1614104
>catastrophic results
even that is underselling it
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>>1612775
ooooooor they can get a shitload of money from boeing to avoid a lawsuit
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>just realized what Boeing stands for now:
Bits
Of
Engine
In
Neighbors
Garden
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>>1614214
Bix
Ot
Egain
Ioni
N
G
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>>1613354
>dont worry Boeing can come to you
Shit, now I'm scared
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>>1614220
Are you having a stroke?
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>>1614220
Aound
In
Road
Bead
U
S
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>>1612573
yep IM STILL AINT GOING
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>>1613547
top kek
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>>1613646
>TOWER SET UP THE RUNWAY
>WE'LL GAAN FOR THE HIGH SCORE
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>>1614268
Not really, the average chink """"person"""" is surprisingly stupid
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>>1614363
if they're in a row like in the image, how many planes would the landing one even go through before being stopped by the wreckage?
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>>1614363
>>1614410
This almost happened
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-ETmZU0u8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7FR7TjnME
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>>1614471
Doesn't SFO have much narrower gap between the runway and the taxiways than most airports of that size? They also seem to have ILS go out of service very often. What's going on there?
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>>1614471
If visibility had been very bad would a 'reverse gaaan' have occured here? because it looks like that plane was about to plough into four or five fully fueled other planes.
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>>1614471
Both pilots sound like fuckups. Captain was "too tired" to report it until the CVR was overwritten. Co was passed over twice for promotion as a weak candidate, lack of situational awareness. You should get to see your surgeon or pilots record beforehand.
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>>1612715
three accidents involving 777's have had fatalities:

one was shot down by some idiot vatnik
one was presumably flown out into the indian ocean as part of the captain's suicide
one was flown into a seawall by some non-whites who didn't even bother to monitor their airspeed and then stubbornly refused to go around. even then the 777 held up astoundingly well and there were only three fatalities (it could have easily been 100% fatality crash)
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>>1614771
At least one of the Asiana fatalities was because the fire department ran over someone at the crash
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>>1614778
>During the crash, two of the inflatable chutes deployed into the cabin. The first chute, which blocked the forward right exit, nearly suffocated a flight attendant and was deflated by a pilot with a fire axe from the cockpit.The second chute expanded toward the center of the aircraft near the fire. It trapped a second flight attendant until a co-pilot deflated it with a dinner knife

What a shitshow
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>>1614787
"plane angered by mishandling attempts to take revenge on flight crew"

"we had to stab it into submission" one unidentified crewmember claims
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>>1614851
cringe
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>>1614858
you will never be a woman
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It keeps happening!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-26/boeing-777-makes-emergency-landing-in-moscow-with-engine-trouble
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>>1615098
>Boeing
>going
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>>1615098
>Boeing
>Russian airline
horror combination
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>>1612580
Yep, primarily at the moment of engine failure. The engine slung a fan blade which could have caused injuries and death had it struck the passenger area. Fortunately it looks like it (or some other part at least) struck the baggage/landing gear bay area instead.
>>1612666
>As long as the engine failure is contained (this one was
Contained my ass.
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>>1615190
>Contained my ass.
The fan blade was contained. The regulations say nothing about containing the containment. You need Xzibit if you want to contain your containment.
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>>1615261
Moot figured it out as well
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>>1612573
when is boeing going to install ejection compartments? we've had this capability for 30 years, just because its not 'cost efficient' is not an excuse.
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>>1615266
frankly, if you can't afford to fly safely, they you can not afford to fly at all.
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>>1615268
fuck that. If it flies, it floats.
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>>1615270
If customers want to strap themselves to a jet turbine and commute across the grand canyon in a sofa seat strapped to it with duck tape, thats their prerogative. So long as the public are made aware of the dangers of flying, I don't see a problem with it.
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>>1612573
word of advice, buy now during the stock dip.
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>>1612607
this
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>>1613823
wing-to-body fairings retard
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>>1615266
>ejection compartments?
why?
major passenger airline incidents are usually fairly binary so its either basically nothing or you get identified by dental records
i see no issue here
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>>1612770
>>1613001
>>1613541
God, Pratt & Whitney is such shit these days. Except the PW100, everything they make is archaic and outdated. Seems like they fanatically resist innovation at nearly every possible turn. And yet their inferior engines still somehow win contracts. They must have some DAMN good lobbyists, their R&D sure isn't getting those sales.
>B-but dependability! Muh TBO!
Maybe if they stopped acting like "tried and true" is somehow a total substitute for maintenance and inspections their engines wouldn't literally be falling apart.
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>>1613823
Bit of tape will fix that
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>>1615872
sand and paint make me the welder I aint
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>>1615274
Lol, no, gtfo you little shit devil





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