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Missing flight, most likely crashed into the sea north of Jakarta. Will post info ITT
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>>1594924
It losted 10k feets in one minute. Something bad happened.
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>>1594927
Yeah, it's fucking scary looking at the altitude data.
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It just keeps happening
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>>1594930
It's a 737-500
PK-CLC//27323/2617//1994-05-13 (26 years 8 months)
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Information.

Sriwijaya Flight 182, registration PK-CLC, is a Boeing 737-524 (not a MAX, don't salivate fuckers). The flight took off from Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta International Airport at 2:36pm local time on runway 25R, making a right turn towards 290, and appeared to be climbing relatively normally. At 2:38pm, the flight turned right again and began a heading of roughly 050, approximately in the direction of its destination, Supadio International Airport.

At 2:40:02pm, the flight peaked at 10900ft, and suddenly began to turn left. Then, it started nosediving whilst turning left. At 2:40:08pm, the flight had dropped to 10725ft (339). By 2:40:14pm, it had dropped to 8950ft (338), then 5400ft (011) at 2:40:20pm, and finally 250ft (093) at 2:40:27pm. That was the last known signal from the aircraft, about 10km west of Rambut Island. There are no known previous incidents from PK-CLC according to the Aviation Safety Network.
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>indonesian Airline
>boeing aircraft
Not
Even
Once
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>>1594933
Descent rates:
2:40:08pm - 3500ft/s
2:40:14pm - 17750ft/s
2:40:20pm - 35500ft/s
2:40:27pm - 44143ft/s
There is zero chance of survivors. And that descent rate looks a little suspect. 0 to 44143ft/s in only twenty seconds. It could be suicide by pilot.
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>>1594937
For comparison, PSA Flight 1771, the one with the hijacker shooting the pilots and then nosediving full throttle into the ground, was descending at about 67000ft/min when it hit the ground. That was both deliberate and full throttle.
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>>1594937

Find it hard to believe a descent rate could be achieved that quickly even in a forced dive, perhaps a bomb or the wings just fucking fell off
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>>1594933
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>>1594939
lol I'm no flightfag but I was about to post the same. Both fucking wings could come off and a tube going straight down aint' moving that fast?
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>>1594939
My first thought was a catastrophic explosion.
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>>1594924
is it possible to drop so fast in just a minute?
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Passenger manifest released.
>Captain: Didik Gunardi
>First officer: Fadly Satrianto
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>>1594943
Nope, something very suddent and violent happened here.
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>>1594943
In one piece? Most likely not.
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if it's boeing it aint going
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Bomb is unlikely, the timing would be too perfect? As soon as he went over the coast it was over.
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>>1594924
A plane crashing during the times when noone's flying is just bad luck.
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>>1594944
How are you able to get manifests so easily
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It's over
Boieng are finished
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>>1594937
Your velocity numbers make zero sense.
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>>1594944
F

>>1594952
>Indonesian
Bribe
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Were there any white people aboard?
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>>1594952
He's an international terrorist.
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>make fun of Chinese engineering

>Boing Amerifart airplane keeps crashing nonstop but does not get blacklisted, just because they are Amerisharts
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>>1594954
Maybe they are correct and it just engaged warp speed. Probably at Saturn by now.
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my mother made me promise to her that i would never fly on an airline that uses 737s
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>>1594950
You can make a bomb that explode at a certain altitude (le : metrojet)
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>>1594951
yeah real bad luck. certainly make u think.
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>>1594954
Sorry I meant feet/min, not feet/sec
44 thousand feet per minute, and 736 feet per second.
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Debris found in the area, not confirmed to originate from the flight.
Appears to be part of the fuselage, a mess of wiring, and a ripped piece of someone's jeans.
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Another passenger manifest released but the crew and flight attendants are completely different. No idea which one's correct now. The passenger list seems to be unaltered.
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>>1594967
>Imagine being a relative of the crew
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>>1594953
It's incredible how Boeing stll manages to blow people up out of the sky in the middle of a plane grounding pandemic.
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>>1594933
Engine flame out and stall?
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>>1594938
>I'm the problem!
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>>1594969
Kek
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>>1594930
>/n/ in charge of accurate descent rates

'Flightradar24.com said the aircraft had lost more than 3,000m (10,000ft) in altitude in less than a minute'
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>America
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Boeing has new seawater detection sensors/software, they just didn't tell anybody yet.
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>>1594961
can you even check before you buy the ticket?
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>>1594943
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If it's Boeing it ain't going
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>>1594967
It's actually the same.
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>>1594976
MCAS is now Must Collect Abundant Seawater
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Aircraft was involved in some sort of bird strike in 2012 with its previous owner.

Can't find anything else about this aircraft, which is odd considering its been in service almost 30 years...
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>>1594977
No. Only on the boarding pass
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this plane is a fucking 26 years old plane and Indonesia's Ministry of Transportation said a plane that already passed the age of 25 years old cannot fly. I really mad at how fucking nigger-tier this country are.
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Will they blame him once again ?
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>>1594986
there are planes way older than 25 years old flying fine.

just train ur pilots and maintain your planes ffs
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>>1594988
corruption is a thing and sadly that probably effect the maintenance of our airplane or training for our pilot. thing is we also had a surplus on pilot so that pilot probably had low wages anyway.
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>>1594989
sad
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>>1594924
Was it a MAX?
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This is why indonesian airlines are banned by the EU
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>>1594992
No737-500, But it is Boeing nonetheless
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>>1594943
That right angle turn, must be a catastrophic explosion
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>>1594993
eu are control freaks

>>1594992
no
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Boeing does it again!
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>>1594966
A cyborg in human clothes
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>>1594967
>>1594944
Imagine being a Xcu right now
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>>1594996

Well they wouldn’t want jungle island scrapyard challenge shitheap airframes falling out of the sky onto residential area, would they?
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>>1595001
its political.

nothing to do with safety
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There’s a rumour that somehow local thunderstorms may have combusted something on the plane somehow.

Indonesia Airlines “It was gods will” “Definitely not poor maintenance”

I’m willing to bet the fuselage was fatigued and simply went DH Comet
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>>1594944
our Ministry of Transports said that only 50 passengers embark on those plane and there's 4 crew and 2 pilot in it.
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>>1595003
nah you probably misread it. from what i can gather, Local in some Islands hear a loud boom and they don't know jack shit about it since they assumed its another thunder (at that time there was a heavy rain) so they continue their routine as always.
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>>1595003
Old plane, previous birdstrike. Who wants to bet explosive decompression leading to rapid unplanned disassembly?
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>>1595005
Based stoic fishermen
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>>1595008
well the first witness of the crash arr some fishermans and what they only saw was that the Plane plunged into the sea.
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>>1594982
kek
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>>1594924
what is it with 737's going for a swim
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the wing fell off lol
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>>1595014
Umm... thats a wheel
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FR24 will be processing all the extra granular ADS-B data and uploading it soon.
The normal ADS-B data you see on the website is usually in five second intervals, but they have way way more in smaller intervals.
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>>1595013
reject modernity
return to boat
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>>1595016
That's what THEY want you to think.
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>>1594938
How difficult is it to an hero the plane with no survivors with a copilot next to you?
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>I have become Shiva
>Destroyer of Worlds
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>>1594943
yeah it dropped real fast

https://twitter.com/enhypengainmoot/status/1347885084905410563
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>>1595021
well there was that suicidal pilot (think it was a german guy) who waited for his co-pilot to go to the bathroom and then locked 'em out while he crashed the plane
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>>1595024
No way a pilot left the cockpit at this moment of the flight.
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The Kepulauan Seribu Regency has reported that the flight crashed and exploded on the island of Pulau Laki. This means that the latitude/longitude data at the end may have been glitched.
If the wing-broke-off theory is true, then it was probably the left wing, and we need to start questioning Ben Shapiro.
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>>1595024
And the Egyptian autist who pushed while the co-pilot was trying to save them all.
'p-pull with me' (repeats this a fucking lot)
'My faith is with god'.
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Crashly reminder
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>>1595024
They make a flight attendant sit in the cockpit if one pilot leaves now, because of that case.
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I found a calculator for free fall online.
The plane was at 10900ft, and assuming initial velocity was nil, the time for free fall would've been 26 seconds and the crash speed would've been 50000 ft/min
According to ADS-B data, the plane took anywhere between 22-25 seconds from problem to crash, and lost 5150 feet in the last seven seconds based on >>1594933, which would amount to a minimum value of 44143ft/min from >>1594937.

That fucking plane was in free fall.
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>>1595032
It flown at the speed of 110kts at the 5000ft which is relatively slow.

In my opinon, the plane's structure has been compromised at 10000ft.
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>>1595034
I think there are two likely options.
1. The wing was destroyed in some way, leading to a steep bank and crash
2. Regular loss of control leading into nosedive, like the Adam Air one from 2007
In-flight bombing or disintegration wouldn't return an ADS-B reading at 250ft. It'd probably get picked up as multiple primary spots on radar, but ADS-B is fucked at that point.
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If its boeing I’m not going
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It being a -500 is unusual. I didn't think the Classic had issues. Didn't the NG have some issues with pegs which attach the horizontal stabiliser having microfractures?
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>>1595019
kek
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>>1595037
The airframe is 27 years old. I doubt the budget airline in Indonesia was doing tons of extra maintenance required to keep flying such an old plane without compromising safety.
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is Boeing done?
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>>1594924
Are there any survivors?
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Granular (more detailed) ADS-B data got released
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>>1595047
Currently? maybe no. But at the moment of incident maybe yes.
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>>1595046
Of course not, the US government will make a lot of offers airlines can't refuse. Large cap companies in the national security game can do whatever they want. Their board of directors could go on twitch and rapeslaughter a school bus full of kids in a satanic ritual sacrifice and at the very most they'd have to hire a graphic designer to make a new logo and fire a few vice presidents and the US would make all the other problems go away.
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>>1595018
>reject modernity
>return to boat
unironically this, fuck these '''''''''''''flying machine''''''''''''''' death traps I'm out
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>>1595049
Heading data.
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>>1595055
How to read this?
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>>1595054
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>>1595055
Speed data.
>>1595056
Line go up = plane go right
Line go down = plane go left
Straight line down = plane go left but changes from 360 heading to 001 heading
Straight line up = plane go right but changes from 001 heading to 360 heading
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>>1595059
Reverse the straight line ones, I confused myself.
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>>1595057
i would much rather be on a sinking ship than a nose-diving plane
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>>1595049
>>1595059
at some point right after 7:40:00 it started losing altitude AND speed
what does that mean? engine failure?
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very quick and dirty
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And latitude/longitude granular data. Tried my best to fit it on the map.
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Now here's where things are a little more interesting
PK-CLC flew two similar Jakarta-Pontianak flights during the week, including one in the early morning. Both earlier flights were straight shots to Pontianak after departure. However, the accident flight appears to have deviates to the left.
It looks like there were problems before the descent even happened.
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WE GOT A HAPPENING
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>>1594944
>ticket numbers as floats
My sides are in orbit.
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>>1594984
Every time you buy a ticket they tell you the exact make and model of the plane prior to selecting a seat. If nothing else you can look up the flight info, which will have that data as well.
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>>1594959
ching chong ding dong
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>>1594971
No, even if they stalled if wouldn't have gone nose down entirely, it'd have generated lift while descending. Most likely an in-air breakup. Considering the left hand turn, the left wing may have came off.
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>>1595114
Die in a fire screaming you disgusting, morally bankrupt piece if shit yank parasite.
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>>1595114
>>1595143
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>>1595152
Tiananmen Square 1989 ding dong China Airlines 611 Massacre, free Uyghurs, you’ll never have AMWF, now unless you want to discuss the crash, go eat some honey Winnie.
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>>1594924
Looked at the flightradar track, the only reasonable way to explain that other than sensors just being yeeted is that the tail got torn off, and the aircraft pitched forward into an inverted high negative AoA powered flight. There's no way to lose 25k ft/min in an airliner, you won't get those numbers without overspeeding otherwise. The aircraft max speed was "only" 400kts. I don't think there's any controlled maneuver you can do to achieve that, you need a powered high drag configuration.
t. aero graduate
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Anyway if the Xi simp isn’t gonna contribute then I will.
I believe the likeliest causes are:
>In-flight separation of engine
An engine could’ve separated at about 10500ft while climbing. The pilots may have known only of an engine failure and attempted to turn back, but in doing so they threw the plane off balance and spiralled out of control. See AA191.
>In-flight separation of wing
This seems less likely. If the Boeing lost a wing, the spiralling would be much more instant, see the GOL 1907 collision.
>Pilot suicide
This is possible too, although it wouldn’t quite explain why the flight listed leftwards before diving. I’d say any pilot with a death wish would push the nose way down immediately.

And the unlikely ones
>Terrorist bombing
I don’t think a flight like this would be a target for a terrorist attack, nor would any flight be able to nowadays thanks to security. A terrorist would probably choose a bigger jet with more people on-board to bomb. Additionally, bombing would likely create weak spots in the fuselage, resulting in an in-flight breakup that would destroy the ADS-B transmitter, but we know it was working right up to the crash.
>In-flight break-up
See above.
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>>1594937
per minute, not per second ffs
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>>1595158
Can an ADS-B transmitter be ejected from a Boeing 737 while still functioning? Curious to know.
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>>1595023
Looks like the speed dipped below 200kts and then went back up right at the end
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>>1595023
>>1595167
Where does this data come from though? Radar image or telemetry?
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>>1595158
25000ft/min would be an average speed of 250 knots though. Before the plane began to drop it had slowed to 120 knots, so 250 would be roughly midway between 120 and 400.
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What's Boeing's kill count in the last like five years? Surely over 500 by now
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>>1595171
Do we count MH-17 and PS-752, since those got SAMed?
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>>1594930

IF IT'S A BOEING, I AIN'T GOEING
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>>1595170
That's ground speed, it is 0 when flying vertically. It could be the aircraft rapidly changing orientation
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>>1595174
>MH-17

Yes, because the United States backed the Ukrainian Junta in Kiev, which downplayed the insurrection in the East, and they sent civilian air traffic over an active war zone with SAM systems bringing down the entire Ukrainian air force in the months prior.

An since Boeing is part of the Corporate-Media-State Security Oligarchy, it is liable.
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>>1594937
>44143ft/s
nigga that's 7800 knots or about mach 12
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>>1595164
ADS-B needs data from somewhere, and needs power from somewhere. So no.
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>>1595179
wrong math lol its actually ~26000 knots
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>>1594930
I swear at this point I’m better off flying in a de Havilland Comet than in a Boeing 737
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>>1595174

Did any AIRBUS get SAM’d?

I thought not
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>>1595199

A big problem of modern airlines is, if it’s fixed we can be complacent/we put in the work already so we don’t have to care anymore.

They should be treating every Aircraft as if it is already broken and then approve it for flight when even the things that look ok have had a thrice-over by at least two different people with no contact with each other
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>>1595206
Fucking zoomers I swear to god
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Literally in free fall. It's over for Boeing.
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>>1595213
Based, airbus bestbus.
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>>1595213
crash was already priced in bro
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>>1595064
stall but dunno what caused the stall
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>>1594974
what's the issue here? 22 seconds is less than a minute
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>>1595002
If it keeps them from crashing planes and killing EU citizens then it's okay no matter how political it is
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>>1595225
On a plane that old at a LCC? Almost certainly maintenance issues. Probably had a ton of cycles.
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>>1595231
Sriwijaya isn't quite a LCC. I flew with them and they're much better than Lion Air or Wings.
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AA77 was a B757
UA175 was a B767
UA93 was a B757
AA11 was a B767
MH17 was a B777
MH370 was a B777
PS753 was a B737
JT610 was a B737
ET302 was a B737
Hiroshima was a B29
Nagasaki was a B29
Hmmm, is there a pattern here?
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>>1595258
The 737 is the most popular plane in history. Makes sense that it'd have plenty of incidents to pull from over 60 years.
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>>1595000
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>>1594950
that's how bombs in planes work, they have an altimeter and explode when plane goes above that altitude.
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And still airlines are too Fucking cheap to give passengers parachutes to at least have a Fucking chance at survival if something like this happens!

Fucking fighter pilots get parachutes and ejector seats, but nothing for the average passenger! Bullshit!

Give them a Fucking chance!
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>>1594937

Is this another Alaska Airlines Gimbal nut type of failure?
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>>1595275

I've heard that 737-500 has never had a single crash attributed to any sort of mechanical failure. The only crashes that happened where all 100% pilot error.
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>>1595390
see. >>1595029
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>>1595392

I was able to locate all 737-500 crashes with fatalities

Asiana Airlines Flight 733
>Pilots have no idea how to land on a runway without ILS installed
>3 Failed landing attempts
>Crash into mounting during 4th landing attemt

EgyptAir Flight 843
>Terrible weather conditions during landing, plane flying in IMC
>Crash into a hill/mountain

Aeroflot Flight 821
>Captain was drunk, tissue found to contain BAC between .05% and .11%. ATC confirms he sounded intoxicated
>During landing loss of spatial orientation and altitude is all wrong
>Plane crashed while trying to turn the plane for another go around to land

Tatarstan Airlines Flight 363
>Crew unable to follow standard landing pattern. Plane is on wrong approach for landing, needs to perform go around
>Autopilot switched off during landing attempt, never turned back on
>Pilots stalled the plane while climbing during go around
>Plane goes into death spiral and crashes
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>>1595390
This would be exceptionally bad pilot error for it to happen in 23 seconds. Far more likely that it was a rudder hardover over the right wing separated and the left engine accelerated them into the ground.
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>>1595029
In any flight investigation human error is usually only considered once every other avenue of failure is rejected
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>>1594937
what
the
fuck

I had a dream about this last night. I'm fucking spooked...
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Speed is too high for stall, AF447 impacted at ~10k fpm. Maybe loss of control surfaces -> stall (initial decrease in speed) -> nose drop -> nose down and engines running until impact.
The speed the plane impacted with is too high to be freefall speed, at pretty much any angle of attack, *maybe* if it's pointing directly down, but reports indicate an AoA in the -40 to -60 deg range, which rules out a straight down fall. Extreme, uncontrolled descent after an initial stall, both with engines still running. Why though?
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>>1595387
I wonder has any mad man ever brought his own parachute. There must be at least one guy. Even DB didn't do it.
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>>1594942
The pieces would actually fall slower than a full hull with no wings.
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>>1595387
It's either a free checked bag or a parachute. Guess which one most people will pick, illiterate boomer.
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>>1595209
this never gets mentioned for some reason tbf
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Is the extremely high descent confirmed or is it just data from one flight radar website?
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>>1595387
>And still airlines are too Fucking cheap to give passengers parachutes
>ejector seats
I've often wondered why they haven't redesigned aircraft innards so that everyone's sitting in individual launch tubes. If something crazy happens then everyone gets ejected out of the top of the aircraft (think of nuke missiles being launched from subs) and has a chance of surviving.
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>>1595387
that's because it doesn't happen enough to be economically viable
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>>1595387
I'd rather die more or less instantly instead of drowning in icy water, fully aware of my situation.
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Any word on any survivors yet?
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>>1595571
waiting to be checked out from trauma counseling
the ice cream got delayed
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>>1595571
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>>1594937
>44143ft/s
wtf
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>>1595164
>>1595180
if the APU was on and the tail fell off, would it continue to provide power?
or more plausibly, is the battery located in the tail? and is the transmitter located in the tail too? if so they could keep transmitting even without the rest of the aircraft.
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>>1595387
you're not getting out of a plane doing 20,000ft/minute diving straight down within 20 seconds unless you've got an ejection seat.
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>>1595258
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>>1595571
this plane crashed with no survivors

what we all are waiting on is the inevitable haunting CVR on live leak
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>>1595759
The pilots were indo, I hope you speak bahasa
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>>1595761
you dont need to translate screams of horror
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>>1595782
Sometimes you do though. What's the Indonesian equivalent of 'blyat'?
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>>1595785
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/features/5-colorful-curse-words-all-over-indonesia-every-jakartan-should-know/
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>>1595571
All 62 on board survived the crash but tragically they crashed in an area with a high concentration of nerve gas where they eventually died from eternal bleeding
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>>1595258
try as they might they will never live up to the king
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Some more math because I was bored.
If everything is to be trusted, the rate of descent at the time of impact was roughly 57500ft/min.
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>>1595387
You're not getting a plane of any large size with ejector seats on every seat.
With that in mind, as for parachutes:
>Plane crashes in one piece
>No chance to use it
>Plane breaks up midflight
>Explosive decompression kills/knocks out everyone
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>>1595387
I did a 2,000 ft static line jump once. That is the lowest leve pleb tier form of solo jump.
Two days training, the instructor puts on your chute and all they tell you is any attachments are RED HOT DO NOT TOUCH VERY FEAR.
I'm pretty sure I blanked out as I went out the door despite two days of being told to do exactly three things.
tl,dr chutes are not going to save you if plane breaks.
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ITT: Eurotards trying to pin this on Boeing... The fucking plane was 26 years old, this likely has nothing to do with them. (I'd still be saying this even if it was an American airline.)
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>>1595387
What do you think would happen if 300 people deployed parachutes in close proximity?
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boeing? more like BOING
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>>1595258
>Hmmm, is there a pattern here?
Boeing salesmen like steak?
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>>1595922
I did the same, only training here was 6 hours, jump the same day. We basically trained movement for removing failed chute and deplying backup to muscle memory. I felt nothing going up in a tiny piece of shit plane, and nothing when jumping, shut down completely. Anything gone wrong with main chute, and I'd be fucked. Nice view, never again.
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>>1595181
It's 1.2 times Earth's escape velocity.
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>>1596045
This just in, plane found on the Moon next to MH370.
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>>1596004

Some of them would survive!
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I wouldn't be surprised if we get a few more incidents in the near future. Thousands of mothballed planes hurriedly being brought back into service, there's bound to be the odd thing missed that's seized up despite the best efforts of the engineers to make sure everything's airworthy.
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Black box has been found, just a matter of time now
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>>1596272
The ralism in this post hits hard
Almost as hard as a 737 in free fall
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>>1596403

It sounds like whatever happened isn't too bad if they already found the Black Box!

I think suicide by pilot is the most likely explanation at this point.
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>>1596403
>Black box has been found
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>>1596476
I mean, they didn't exactly have to look very hard. The main obstacles with sea crashes are usually the precise location, which gets harder and harder to pinpoint as wreckage drifts (extremely easy this time) and the depth, which makes debris fields spread out more the deeper you go (again, very shallow this time).
It was shit that a fatal accident happened so soon after takeoff, but it's going to make finding the cause a hell of a lot quicker than with most water crashes.
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>>1595756
>if the APU was on and the tail fell off, would it continue to provide power?
No.
>or more plausibly, is the battery located in the tail?
No.
The primary problem is that all of the power feeders and distribution circuits are routed to or from panels in the electronics bay or cockpit. Both forward.
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>>1596495
It's shit when fatal accidents happen, regardless of the stage of flight.
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>>1594959
>>1595114
fucking BASED ahahahaha
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>>1595230
1000 eurocuck lives are not worth 1 indo soul (eurocuckistanoids do no have souls LOL)
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>>1596494
So far they haven't said much except about decent rates which isn't terribly illuminating. They're still looking for the audio recordings
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>>1596600
Seethe more incestoid
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>>1594996
>Why are the EU so fussy about our old-ass leftover planes that are vastly more likely to fall out of the sky than ones half their age?
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Why are there so many suicidal Indonesian pilots?
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>>1596737
They're Indonesian
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https://ekonomi.bisnis.com/read/20210109/98/1340808/sriwijaya-air-sj182-hilang-kontak-nelayan-lihat-ledakan-di-langit
>Nelayan bernama Solihin tersebut mengatakan ia sedang menaiki bubu (alat tangkap ikan tradisional). Kemudian, ia melihat ada ledakan di langit yang diikuti oleh serpihan api yang turun ke laut.
>“Dari atas ada serpihan api langsung turun ke bawah air, langsung ada ledakan air dari bawah muncrat ke atas,” ungkap Solihin, dikutip dari YouTube CNN Indonesia TV

>The fisherman named Solihin said he was riding a trap (traditional fishing gear). Then, he saw an explosion in the sky followed by fragments of fire descending into the sea.
>'From above there were flakes of flames that fell directly under the water, immediately there was an explosion of water from below spurting upwards,' said Solihin, quoted from YouTube CNN Indonesia TV.

https://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasional/20210109191349-20-591588/sriwijaya-air-hilang-kontak-nelayan-lihat-api-jatuh-ke-laut
>"Sekitar 14 meter lah [lokasi], dari atas begitu sampe air dia [serpihan api] langsung kayak gimana kalau bom jatuh ke bawah air langsung ada ledakan dalam air. Bubu saya juga hampir kena serpihan ledakan itu," jelasnya.

>'It is about 14 meters [the location], from above when the water reaches it [the flames] are immediately like what if a bomb falls under water, there is an explosion in the water. My bubu was almost hit by the splinters of the explosion,' he explained.

Could the plane have exploded (if just partially) from the forces involved during such a harsh descent? It sounds like it at least broke apart moments before hitting the water; investigators are already fairly certain the engines were still running at the time of collision so it wasn't already completely in pieces.
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>>1596793
Also here's radar data they already have. It was definitely doing just fine until the drop started
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>>1596793
>aerodynamic forces during high-speed uncontrolled fall
>fuel explosion
>spontaneous deconstruction (e.g. a wing just tore off due to the metal being weak due to someone fucking up a weld three months earlier)
These could all leave a plane in several pieces, though I don't really know how large they would be.
Could also be
>military action
>terrorist action
>aliens
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>>1596797
link?
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>>1596821
https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2021/01/12/13113191/knkt-menduga-mesin-sriwijaya-air-sj-182-masih-hidup-sebelum-membentur-air
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>>1595759
>moments before loss of control
>”Well, you’re caught. What’s the next step of your master plan?”
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>>1594988
Yeah large planes who have one or two cabin compression a day
Not 737s that take off every 4 hours
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>>1596839
IIRC there was a Japanese plane that had a rapid decompression in the tail throwing the plane right out of the sky
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>>1596793

I don't believe the fisherman's accounts. It wouldn't descend fast enough if it exploded and fragments fell, not like what we saw. The plane was diving!
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>>1596884
if it was diving it was accelerating, why is it implausible that it would lose structural integrity shortly before impact?
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>>1595884

Dayum, that’s approaching the speed of sound on impact
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>>1596951
>>1596889
Wouldn't be too surprising if that did happen then
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We know it couldn't have been a missile because it was too close to the coast, the radar would have easily detected it!
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>>1596987
sounds just like what a missile would say
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>>1596995
Yeah, a missile would know exactly where it was or where it wasn't
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>>1597055

But’s that’s because it’s subtracting from where it is
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>>1595819
I don't miss the death cruiser 10
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>>1596797
>It was definitely doing just fine until the drop started
sums up these retarded 'sky velocipedes'
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>>1597162

Kek isn't that basically all plain crashes?
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>>1597151
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>>1597162
>sky cages
ftfy
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>>1595819
>>1597151
dc 8 is the real meatgrinder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Douglas_DC-8
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Which crash was the one where like a $2 part snapped and they could no longer pitch the plane so it went into an uncontrolled dive?

And then like the ATC recording had these other planes commenting all nonchalant on it like "Looks like he is trouble" and "I concur, he's in an uncontrolled dive" and "He just hit the water" like it was no big deal.
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>>1595258
poor B777 is an exemplary plane yet suffered the two highest profile air disasters of the last decade through no fault of its own.
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>>1597963
alaska airlines 261

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ewehd9b0_o

It wasn´t as nonchalant as you make it sound
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>>1594924

Any updates? They have the Black box so we should Fucking know what happened by now!
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>>1598002
wiki:
>During the search and rescue operation, three fishermen had reportedly fallen into the sea, having been hit by high waves which capsized their boat. At least one person died and two others were evacuated.
>The casing of the cockpit voice recorder was recovered, along with its beacon, but the memory module inside was missing
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>>1594924
>Jakarta
No she wanted to go.
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>>1598002
update: they found the FDR and downloaded the data, they are still looking for the CVR memory module.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-15/indonesia-downloads-data-from-flight-recorder-of-downed-air-jet/13062898
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>>1598070
Can the pilot access the CVR from the cockpit? Or can be the massive impact energy that ejected the memory module?
I'm inclined on the possibility of pilot suicide
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What was in the cargo? Maybe some juicy semiconductors

http://muslimnewsmagazine.tv/disappearance%20of%20malaysian%20airlines%20mh-370.html
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>>1598240
I believe the CVR can be turned off at any time though it's not supposed to be done by the pilots, only the maintenance workers.
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>>1598273
>3 not connected to the other 3 at all

chud self harm
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>>1598273
>>1598312
Yeah at least swap porn and the government





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