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Old Thread: >>1547545
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>>1582312
What was the reason for renumbering C11 1?
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>>1582507
The C11 "1" Tobu acquired and restored was from a defunct railway company called Kojaku Railways built in 1947, which was different from the original JNR C11 1 (built in 1932) currently residing in Ome Railway Park.
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https://mainichi.jp/articles/20201207/k00/00m/040/153000c
Shizuoka governor latest speech on Chuo Shinkansen
In additipn to the water problem, which he deacribed it as "water of life", he claim that Southern Alps is a valuable natural environment of the world which have already registered, and claim more discussions and dialogue are necessary before necessity of the line and its construction permit can be approved
Someone im.the local congress asked him "It's difficult to omagine it'd cause water lost 100km down stream", to which the Shizuoka Minister of Life and Environment responded by saying "If flow downstream cannot be maintained then it have possibility of impacting underground water in downstream area." He also claimed that, for soil beimg dig out during the construction of tunnel, they may include naturally occurring toxic substances like heavy metal, if those soil goes into river nd underground water then it might negatively impact the water quality, and that the soil around designated place to place these soil are said to be of weak foundation and he said they worry landslide would happen and cause outflow of soil being dig out with harmful substances inside
As for the dam that's currently discharging the river's water to Yamanashi, deputy governor claim the water flow near the dam is certainly exoected to reduce, and its impact on those with water right is something up to JR Central to think about.
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>>1582861
Isn't the prefecture's actual biggest problem with the Chuo-Shinkansen, that it won't get a station?
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>>1582868
Chuo Shinkansen in its current form is impossible to argue a station should be added within Shizuoka territory
What would be the fallback if the Chuo Shinkansen project fail? Quadrupling of Tokaido Shinkansen track? If that's the case that would benefit Shizuoka the most?
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>>1582870
That arguing with water simply feels reminiscent of what Tesla is currently facing in Germany.
People from Bavaria hate that Tesla has decided to build in Brandenburg, and in order to fight that have formed environmentalist groups that mostly argue regarding the natural water supply in the factory area.
Shizuoka should simply say what it wants to happen. That may get overruled, but this crooked way of trying to force one's will on other people is disgusting.
政治家駅 need to go and stay go.
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>>1582874
Well they did have said they want a new station on Tokaido Shinkansen under Shizuoka Airport, they want Nozomi to stop in their prefecture after opening of Chuo Shinkansen, and now they want the Chuo Shinkansen project to not get built, but none of these are progressing.
The Shizuoka governor have said that Chuo Shinkansen is not necessary in the post-coronavirus era where concentration at big cities are proved bad and remote meeting have become trend, and that it's time to focus on supporting local area instead of adding more infrastructure for cities, which in my opinion reflect a fear that Shizuoka will be bypassed and passengers do not need to travel through Shizuoka along Tokaido Shinkansen if Chuo Shinkansen get built, causing damages to economic activity in the prefecture, in tge same way how some rural area oppose construction of Shinkansen out of fear that travellers heading through the area will be lost to Shinkansen.
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I will jump in front of a moving Shinkansen if the maglev gets cancelled.
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>>1582882
>Shizuoka will be bypassed and passengers do not need to travel through Shizuoka along Tokaido Shinkansen if Chuo Shinkansen get built, causing damages to economic activity in the prefecture
How does this logic even make sense? The majority of Tokaido Shinkansen services already bypass the prefecture, so it's not like they lose anything with those passengers using the Chuo Shinkansen. If anything, Shizuoka will stand to gain from the Chuo Shinkansen if more Tokaido Shinkansen services can stop at Shizuoka/Hamamatsu after it's built.
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what still operational japanese steam locomotive would be able to tested out and pushed for high speed just for the sake of it?
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>>1583024
The value that Shizuoka is right on the artery between Tokyo, Nagoya and Osaka is immerse for both business or sightseeing industry in the prefecture. And the most popular image of Shizuoka is Mt. Fuji and the most popular view of it is the one that have Tokaido Shinkansen passing right in front of it from Shizuoka side of the mountain. They will still be there after Chuo Shinkansen finished, but travellers between Tokyo and Osaka will get a brief view of Mt. Fuji from Yamanashi side instead, and Chuo Shinkansen will also replaced Tokaido's role as the artery of Japan's major cities hence expelling Shizuoka from the range.
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>>1583053
Maybe the Limited Express Asia would still be operational if you can identify the whereabouts of that locomotive
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The VR mode in Densha de GO! (PS4) looks fun:
https://twitter.com/S130226/status/1334512859057975296
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>>1583112
i think there's some preserved in Shenyang
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2021 Timetable revisions for JR Hokkaido:
https://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20201209_KO_kaisei.pdf
Quick overview:
-Cuts to Limited Express and Local services as announced back in October
-Reduction in number of cars for some limited express services
-H100 series to replace some/all older DMUs on Muroran and Soya Lines
-18 stations with little/no ridership to be closed
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>>1583500
Interestingly, while Bakkai Station on the Soya Line was planned to be axed, the city of Wakkanai will be paying for its maintenance and thus it survices for another year, but Tokumitsu Station will be closed even though its closure was never announced beforehand.
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>>1583500
>-18 stations with little/no ridership to be closed
JR Hokkaidou really needs a Geoff to make those stations more popular.
I know stations in the far North of Sweden that see practically no passengers, and where you need to flag down one of the four or five trains a day yourself.
They never really considered closing those down, though. What's even the net gain there for JR Hokkaidou? That it gets easier to close down the line as a whole?
Is Tokyo giving up its northmost isle? Just give it to Russia, if you don't need it anymore. This is ridiculous.
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>>1583595
>What's even the net gain there for JR Hokkaidou?
At the end of the document, it says closing the stations reduce costs by 50 million JPY. That being said, reducing services/vehicle count saves far more money.
I don't think this move is as terrible as you're making it out to be. If you check out pics of these stations, you'll see that they're mostly just surrounded by farmland and a few houses or near a major road. Nothing particularly scenic or of interest for a tourist. JR Hokkaido was already hemorrhaging money before COVID, and they say in the PDF that they don't expect demand to fully recover even after COVID. JR Hokkaido can't survive on its own, and they've turned to the local municipalities for help to preserve low-ridership stations, and the running costs for 12 stations on the Soya and Sekihoku Lines are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.
One question I do have is why JR Hokkaido doesn't have flag stops. Is there a law against it in Japan?
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>>1583756
>12 stations on the Soya and Sekihoku Lines are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.
Corrected: 18 stations
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>>1583756
>are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.
So Suga (and maybe Aso?) wants to shift the financial load from the national fiscal budget (JR Hokkaidou remains at 100% state-owned) to the communal fiscal budget?
Great going there! That will totally save rural Japan!
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>>1583779
Rural areas in Japan (and elsewhere) are screwed regardless.
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https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?SerialNo=101797
Taiwan HSR operator and government think the price of N700S-based train they intended to buy is too expensive, costing 500 million TWD (1.8 billion JPY) per train set, which is 2.5 times the original 700T they brought.
And apparently one reason behind such high cost is they're only trying to buy 8 trains with 4 options, so the fixed cost like production line cost could not be spread out.
>>1583595
Main cost of a simple unmanned station is to maintaining and cleaning the structure of the station itself, for JR Hokkaido it additionally includes hiring staff to remove snow from stations during winter. Making the train stops only when being called isn't going to help save the cost. (And the system of notifying driver which stations it should stop will probably cost them more?)
Also, since all trains in Japan adheres to the timetable at each station, even if you make a stop optional, the train will still need to stay at the station until it's time for them to depart.
>>1583779
It's not a new arrangement. These stations will otherwise be abandoned by HR Hokkaido, so some local villages/towns would like to pay for the maintenance themselves to sustain their existence
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>>1582868
Yes, the environmental concerns have been proven many times to be over blown. Proposed construction techniques would have little impact on the water flow and the finished line would have a negligible impact from what I last remembered. It's literally because they don't get a station like they wanted because it would be too out of the way.
Even though it's BS, honestly at this point it seems like Shizuoka should just be offered some kind of compensation that makes the governor change his mind like a toll charge for trains passing through. It's obvious that the strategy of waiting and hoping he gets voted out isn't going to work, and unlike with small towns blocking the American Interstate system in the 70s, the Chuo line has no purpose if it has to be split in two with a bus transfer between Shizuoka since it would end up slower than the Nozomi and would only be a novelty.
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>>1583889
>Shizuoka should just be offered some kind of compensation that makes the governor change his mind
This.
That entire environmental bullshit distracts from actual solutions.
Unfortunately it's the only trump card left for Shizuoka to play, so they will naturally do it.
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>>1583889
Shizuoka proposed opening the line only until Yamanashi and sell package tour through it for people to travel around the Mt. Fuji area which also includes Shizuoka
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A summary of Yamanashi Prefecture's concept of a "Fujisan Tozan Railway" which would be built on Mt. Fuji's Fuji Subaru Line from Highway 139 to the 5th Station

https://www.pref.yamanashi.jp/chosa/fujisan_railway/documents/201202_material01.pdf

JR East has revealed the E235-1000 Series EMU entering service for the Yokosuka-Sobu Line to the press

https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20201212-e2351000photo/
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>>1584765
What the hell do they think "LRT" is by proposong it for the Mt. Fuji?
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>>1584765
>Exempted transportation system
>System that might not apply to the consecutive slopes of Mt. Fuji: Electric buses
What, pretty sure electric buses can handle slopes even better than regular buses?
>Special rail or guideway etc. that would present big impact on view amd affect vehicle operation: Monorail, New Transportation System, Guideway Bus, SkyRail, Steel wheeled linear motor car, Aeromobile
How's guidewat bus worse than regular train in this aspect?
>Systems that are not thematic and not advanced: Trolley bus
What

Then on page 19, they're saying rack railway is bad abd LRT are good because of noise and vibration and barrier free access? And ability for emergency vehicles to just drive on the track? Don't you still have other roads for that
And so they make LRT their baseline choice? Completely taking over the road's roght of way only for the LRT's use? And use ground level electric transmission method?
And they're estimating fare of 10000-20000 Yen round trip for such LRT?
Why they think making people access through LRT instead of their own cars can cut the peak of visitor there
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To me it's insane that Japan can have so many railway companies, my country only has 1
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>>1585041
Japan has a large population concentrated in small areas, and the government didn't nationalise all the train lines.
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>>1585178
They did, things like Tohoku Main Line were private before JNR absorbed them
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>>1585186
I am aware; there are still many private railway companies in major metro areas.
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https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201215_ho01_1.pdf
JR East collaborate with KDDI to develop distributed satellite city, opening new distributed offices in different towns and ecplore turning some Shinkansen train cars to remote workplace with dedicated connection for remote meeting
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335m? Why is the water there so deep
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If this section could be completed in the JNR era, Yamagata Shinkansen probably wouldn't be needed as a Mini Shinkansen line?
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>>1585958
>If this section could be completed in the JNR era, Yamagata Shinkansen probably wouldn't be needed as a Mini Shinkansen line?
I don't think so since this line doesn't make travel to Yamagata from Tokyo any faster.
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>>1586070
At the time, Yamagata's biggest complain was losing direct express train service to Tokyo. If this line was built, then direct service to Tokyo would have been possible through Tobu Railways even after the opening of Tohoku Shinkansen and the cessation of most express train service on the conventional Tohoku Main Line. The time needed might actually be a bit longer but they would be able to keep the same train service without building for the Mini Shinkansen
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>If this line were built and achieved scheduled speed of over sixty kilometer per hour it would have been the quickest route from Tokyo to Takayama and appears to be the quickest route from Matsumoto to Toyama
Is this still something worth building in the modern time?
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wait so the shinkansen has a metal bar that makes contact with the overhead wires for electricity? doesn't it get hot? don't the surfaces start to rub off?
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>>1586611
Read up on that here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph_(transport)
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>>1586668
>At sustained high speeds (above 300 kilometres per hour (190 mph)) friction can cause the contact strip to become red hot, which in turn can cause excessive arcing and eventual failure
the shinkansen goes at 320 km/h so this doesn't explain how it deal with the heating problem
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>>1586716
Well, you said "metal bar", so I was assuming you didn't even have a rough idea what you are talking about.
Yes, it does use pantographs for power supply. Obviously ones designed for HSR.
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>>1586748
I didn't know what the contact surfaces were made out of but I still don't get how the HSR ones are designed to prevent overheating.
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>>1586781
I mean at 320kph you're moving a lot of air over it. If we can have air cooled engines that can go the same speed as HSR I think they can make a friction surface not overheat.
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20201218-00010014-norimono-bus_all
Ueno to Omiya section speed limit to be increased to 130km/h from 2021 March, shortening travel time by 1 minute
>>1586829
I don't think that's being used.
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2021 Timetable revisions are out.
TL;DR - Services cuts everywhere
Hokkaido:
>>1583500
East:
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/timetable/
Central:
https://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000040882.pdf
West:
https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/2020/12/page_17103.html
Shikoku:
https://www.jr-shikoku.co.jp/03_news/press/2020%2012%2018%2002.pdf
Kyushu:
https://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/railway/dia/

Are the JR East KiHa 40/47/48s kill?
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>>1587089
>Are the JR East KiHa 40/47/48s kill?

Soon enough since Akita Branch is the only JR East branch left that still have KiHa 40s for active service
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>>1585940
That's where the Loch Ness Monster lives.
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https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/75248
Bad news for all "big depth underground" construction projects, especially Chuo Shinkansen
In Tokyo, when they're using tunnel boring machine to construct a "Big Depth Underground" road tunnel, the surface road collapsed.
It have caused residents around the area to question the safety of such deep underground tunnel boring, and whether it really have "no effect to the surface" as advertised.
With the deep underground tunnel boring of Chuo Shinkansen to start within Tokyo in the next year, similar concern could be raised by residents along the route.
https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/75237
For the road tunnel project incident, it have been suspended for now pending further investigation, and as it seems like there are other places with similar curst compositions, additional pre-boring works including surveying and strengthening will be necessary. No doubt it will take extra times and no doubt Chuo Shinkansen will also be affected
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https://www.jp.square-enix.com/denshadego/syodai/
To promote/commemorate the upcoming release of new Dencha de Go! game on Switch/PS4, they have now officially released the early version from 1997 for PS1 onto mobile website for free
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>>1587253
>Loch
>In an ocean
doubt.
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What are the technical limitations preventing the Tohoku/Hokkaido Shinkansen from hitting 320 km/h across its whole length, including the Seikan Tunnel? Currently its:

110 km/h to Omiya (130 km/h in March)
275 km/h to Utsunomiya
320 km/h to Morioka
260 km/h to Aomori
140 km/h through the Seikan Tunnel to Hakodate

How much distance does the average 16-car E5 series need to hit 320, and what's the minimum curve radius? Is noise pollution another reason it's so slow up to Omiya? Etc.
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>>1587517
All the non-Seikan Tunnel are probably noise and infrastructure (the catenary needs to be able to withstand the friction) related, as far as Seikan Tunnel is concerned I doubt it'll ever be able to go higher than 260 km/h as long as they'll have to share the tunnel with freight trains
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>>1587518

> freight trains
WTF? I thought most freight was via truck in Japan. Especially after the 1967 Shinjuku explosion and the 59.2 timetable revision that heavily reduced freight service. Freight and passenger trains sharing infrastructure is common in the US and Canada but it surprises me that Japan has it too
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>>1587089

Found this in the Hachioji Branch Office press release. One Chuo-Ome through service will instead turn back at Tachikawa, how's that going to alleviate congestion? I'm not the best at reading Nippon moonrunes
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>>1587533
Anon, it's one of the longest tunnels in the world (it was the longest for a while) linking two islands. Any choice other than railway transport would be stupid.
>>1587517
>110 km/h to Omiya (130 km/h in March)
>275 km/h to Utsunomiya
If I recall correctly, they announced the increase to 300 with the arrival of the E8, replacing the E3. I assume that means this section speed is either rolling stock or capacity limited, not infrastructure limited.
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>>1587533
It's more economical for shared use on the longest strait or mountain range tunnels, a la Channel Tunnel and Gotthard or Ceneri Base Tunnel. Freight brings in revenue too. Not like there's any other choice though.
Japan is going to face a labor shortage. Truck driver is the same.
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>>1587437
It's 10m deeper at its shallowest, reaching twice the depth.
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>>1587604
* The issue with Gaikan at Chofu between Chuo and Tomei Jct is groundwater near a river. It being parallel may also be a factor.
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>>1587533
Yes, most freight in Japan are handled through trucks instead, but there are no road tunneos between Honshu and Hokkaido, so their only options are trains or ferry.
Also, for all the remaining freight services in Japan, freight trains do share track with passenger tracks, but unlike North America, they are freight trains using passenger train company track instead of reverse
>>1587603
The alternative os ferry transportation of all freight and let Shinkansen take up the entire tunnel. But the econonic damage to Hokkaodo have been deemed too great for such act to he even worth considering
>>1587604
Would still vulnerable to the same mechanism
>>1587534
It might actually be the same train afterall but just people are being required to deboard from the train
According to my understanding,
First of all, some of those who make through journey from Tokyo into Ome area might take other trains instead, thus freeing up space for Tachikawa-originating passengers
Second, even if some still take the same trains, they will still be forced to deboard and let others waiting at the platform to board first, making seats available to passengers waiting at the station
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Densha de GO!! Hashirou Yamanote-sen! comes to Switch on March 18th:

https://twitter.com/sqexdenshadego/status/1340877154699988992
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Why is 上野駅 not located inside 上野国, and have a different reading?
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>>1588315
There are lots of fucking Ueno-s in Japan.
Joumou is present at Joumou Kougen Station on Jouetsu Shinkansen. Also related are Ryoumou Line and Toujou Line.
Did you read up on Kamitsukeno?
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>>1588553
Well it's to be expected that stations and such in that area are named after the local nation name.
But question is what relationship it have with the Ueno in Tokyo?
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上野: Ueno
上野国: Kouzuke no kuni
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>>1587608
>It might actually be the same train afterall but just people are being required to deboard from the train
Wouldn't that make the platforms in Tachikawa even more crowded?
Having another train waiting on the opposite track on the same platform before the one from Tokyo arrives at 18:13 would be more effective than emptying it onto the already crowded platform.
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From the proposed March schedule revision with more E7 sets entering service in Joetsu Shinkansen (which was delayed due to losses from flood in Fall 2019) the E4 Series EMU will officially retire from services in Fall 2021.

Some in-train service changes:

1. Prices for Gran Class services for Hayate and Yamabiko, which have no light snack + drink services will be reduced by 2,090 Yen
2. Certain Kagayaki and Hakataka services will no longer have in-train sales, more details will come when JR East releases the March schedule revision
3. All Inaho and Kaiji services will no longer have in-train sales

https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201218_ho04.pdf
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>>1588689
They should at least put vending machines back in trains without snack services.
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>>1588637
>Japanese location names with ノ thrown in without it showing up in the spelling
二宮, 三宮, 下関, ...
Meanwhile you have 一ノ関.
Why?
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>>1588613
None, end of story.

>>1588924
This is a general Japanese language question. Surely you are also going to ask Yamate vs Yamanote soon.
>一ノ関
It's in 一関.
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>>1588931
>Yamate vs Yamanote
* Which is more etymology than grammar
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>>1588931
>It's in 一関.
Well, since this is /jrg/, I was obviously talking about pic related.
Yeah, I should have mentioned the 山手線.
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>>1588933
It's in 一関市.
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>>1588924
>三宮
JR is 三ノ宮駅.
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>>1588933
The form of writing of "Yamanote" line actually switched a few time over the past century iirc
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What's up with the 号 I see at the end of named train/bus services? ときわ号, ニューブリーズ号, マロニエ号, etc.

>>1587533
>>1587608

My understanding is Hokkaido, has 25% of Japan's arable land but had no way of sending agricultural products to Honshu except via boat, until the Seikan Tunnel was built. And it's not like the Kanmon Strait between Shimonoseki and Fukuoka which is narrow enough that trucks can cross it no problem. The Tsugaru Strait is 20 kilometers wide at its narrowest, as in you can't even see Honshu from Hakodate because it's hidden behind the Earth's curvature.

A bit o/t but I've been researching the story of what a boondoggle the Seikan Tunnel was.In 1954, Typhoon Marie sank the Toya Maru (JNR ferry) killing 1,100+ souls so there was motivation to build a tunnel, but apparently the soil was a nightmare and I suppose the tunnel got caught up in the Kakuei Tanaka-esque cost overruns that defined infrastucture megaprojects in the Showa era. I wonder how much tunnel debt JRTT is shouldering, and how long it'll take to pay off.
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>>1588140

Do you think there will ever be another full Densha de Go game like Final? I'd love to play a game where I get to drive N'EX, Azusa, JR West Urban Network, etc., something to scratch the itch that BVE6, Railsim2 and VRM simply don't. The UE4 engine looks stunning.
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>>1589165
>What's up with the 号 I see at the end of named train/bus services? ときわ号, ニューブリーズ号, マロニエ号, etc.
It's just Japanese. Like Titanic is タイタニック号
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There's a signboard at Akabane (platform 3 and 4) that still has depictions of the 115 and 211 series. It designates "10両最後部" whatever tf that means.
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>>1589169
> It's just Japanese. Like Titanic is タイタニック号
But that's the name of a ship, and even then I thought vessels end in 丸.

I turned /jrg/ into /djt/ and I feel great shame, 切腹するしかないね。
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>>1589170
That just means you are at the end of a 10-car train set
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>>1589174
Do any other stations have this, or is it just Akabane? Suburban lines from Ueno are a mix of 10/15 car sets right?
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>>1589173
Maru is just a common part of the name. Meanwhile 号 here is a word used together with the name instead.
vessels or vehicles it appears to be same to me. Even aircraft use 号 when they're given individual name. I think Japanese language just isn't really used to apply a noun to a vessel or vehicle and call them using such name directly, hence the appendix of 号
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>>1589176
Most stations don't since they usually have door / car number indicators on the floor of the platform or overhead like that signboard, and most suburban lines from Ueno are 10+5 cars now
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>>1589165
It's similar to "The". This is a common feature in East Asian language.
>>1589173
That's a proper name suffix. Maersk uses "Maersk" suffix. Evergreen uses "Ever" prefix
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>>1589166
>Do you think there will ever be another full Densha de Go game like Final?
I don't know, but I'd be there Day 1 importing the first print edition with controller.

>>1589173
*数独せざるを得ないね
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>>1589166
I'd import a console solely for the purpose of playing a Densha de Go Final-tier game with current graphics.
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「南海電鉄、Visaカードで入場可能に=訪日客向け | 乗りものニュース」:https://trafficnews.jp/post/103276
Nankai will also support Visa payment
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https://trafficnews.jp/post/103139
Tokyu named the station on iys through connection line to Shotetsu as 新綱島駅

https://trafficnews.jp/post/103184
Tokyu partnered with a hotel to offer simulator room for people to simulate driving Tokyu trains in it

https://trafficnews.jp/post/103181
JR East trying the concept pf "Shinkansen office, which come with empty middle seat for no extra cost, and users are allowed to chat over electronic devices for like telemeeting in the train car.
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https://www.asahi.com/amp/articles/ASNDV6R6FNDVUTIL01W.html
Oedo line need to cut their schedule by 30% as 15 of their drivers have been confirmed infected with Wuhan coronavirus and another 6 have been identified as close contact, thus have to be quarantined and cannot drive the train.
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>>1589753
Also dumb QR Code
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>>1589758
>The whole "Shinkansen Office" business

I wonder if their little experiment with the currently surplus E259 EMUs stationing in the temporary platform in Ryougoku Station back in November actually yielded positive results for this to happen

https://www.jreast.co.jp/chiba/news/pdf/pre2011_nextere.pdf
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https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/397807?display=b
Shizuoka government found to made up fake professional opinion against what the professionals have spoken and then sent those fake opinions to national government
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https://www.sankei.com/economy/news/201230/ecn2012300016-n1.html
JR East may introduce dedicated cargo-car on Shinkansen.
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>>1591243
>JR East may introduce dedicated cargo-car on Shinkansen.
Didn't such an attempt fail last century?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKHqLWzWrgA
Granted, that was probably JR Central or JR West.
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>>1591243
>>1591280
This is different since they're converting one car in a single train set to carry cargo not an entire Shinkansen dedicated to carrying freight.
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>>1591280
Won't say it itself failed. Freight Shinkansen is dwarfed by trucks, and long standing ships. Conventional-speed lines also have capacity released for freight. JNR fucked up itself. Together with sleeper Shinkansen, they are made obsolete by road and aviation, as well as incompatible with higher speeds and frequency of Nozomi.

>>1591361
Although I prefer to keep it mixed traffic with freight perhaps as far as conventional-speed sleeper trains in the future, Seikan Tunnel matters to them, even if it's short. I can see them willing to explorer entire dedicated trainset in the future if this succeeds and grows. In the meantime, I would be interested in passenger-freight convertible combi-cars
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https://trafficnews.jp/post/103297
In the March schedule update, Sunrise's departure schedule slot at Tokyo station have been used up by another train.
>>1591469
This cannot solve the Seikan issue since the weight and maximum axial load of Shinkansen vehicle as well as the cost mean it is only optimized to carry parcels instead of agricultural products that are the main cargo being shipped through Seikan.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWaHRYWK4k
Traffic News' editor, A-Train development company manager, and Kami come together to talk about the history of Keikyu with urban development along its line and tried a bit the upcoming A-Train game on Switch
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Just saw a conspiracy book on Amazon claim that JR Central actually didn't have enough technology to build a Maglev line, citing the lack of toilet in L0 series train, and the existence of poles along the track, claim JR Central will ultimately open the line as a conventional Shinkansen.
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>>1591783
>前触れもなく突如廃止になるのは、考えづらいところです。
Well, let's hope so.
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>>1592064
Link?
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>>1592064
>JR central doesn't have the technology that already exists
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Responding to Taisetsu Liner bus competition, JR Hokkaido and Hokkaido Airports Co Ltd rumored to be exploring a Asahikawa -- New Chitose Airport stations Ltd Exp on Muroran Main Line section via Oiwake Station, in relation to Asahikawa Airport reconstructions and New Chitose Airport Station through line plans. Previously, Super Kamui and earlier White Arrow serves this route via Sapporo Station.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f5848b12488fa4532ec674f3ae2cde350e7a7f39
https://tabiris.com/archives/shinchitose-asahikawa/
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「静岡県知事が首相に書簡 リニア問題で“工事凍結”直訴(産経新聞) - Yahoo!ニュース」:https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9d10c910a1e66eaff0373ea235b700936d2f8d36
Shizuoka governor write a mail directly to Japanese prime mibister, asking him tp freeze the Linear construction, in addition to domestic production of corona vaccine as well as criticizing the Japanese government or excluding some pro-China acadenics with stances against Japanese government from the officially sponsored academic meeting
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>>1593036
Funny thing the airport authority is framing it as helping the Asahikawa airport when it can only hurt it
>>1592583
The book:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/479422480X/
An article on the book:
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/7adb07d26b9bea43e1d23faef03b2209d91089bc
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https://www.asahi.com/amp/articles/ASN1R4V2VN15UHBI007.html
Korean government and civil groups say railways built in Japanese colonization era are Remain of Japanese Imperialism, Scar of Colobization Control, and that they're happy to remove them by building a new, alternative high speed line to replace the old conventional line
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https://tabiris.com/archives/tohoku201805/
So the speed up from 110km/h to 130km/h south of Omiya was supposed to save two minutes time for Shinkansen, but as this time they're only improving the section in Saitama prefecture and didn't touch the section within Tokyo metropolis, it only saved 1 minutes
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>>1594155

In reference to >>1587517: The high-speed curve radius is 4000m. Between Tokyo and Omiya it's 600-800m. This portion was supposed to be underground but for some reason they switched to above ground. Which led to protests from landowners along the route, joined by the around the Japanese New Left and the anti-Narita Airport movement.

Anyone know why JNR's original plan to underground the Tokyo~Omiya portion flopped?
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>>1594164
https://twitter.com/FanTaiyo/status/859412429410676737
While curve radius is also a problem, it's apparently part of the agreement to build the segment with tight curve in order to ensure the low speed limit into the future
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A E217 EMU set (Y44) is seen being transported from the Kamakura Yard to assumed to be Nagano General Yard, which signifies the slow phasing out of the EMU for the Yokosuka-Sobu Line. I wonder how will the rumours of KCI buying the old E217 will pan out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-X1SCQL5I

>>1594164
It was initially planned for being in underground, but they realized it wasn't possible due to geological reasons so they were forced to change it to being a corridor. That in turn actually caused quite a bit of unrest for the residents along the route throughout the 70s to early 80s and the Saikyo Line was actually one of the results from those unrests.
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>>1594164
>Anyone know why JNR's original plan to underground the Tokyo~Omiya portion flopped?
Wikipedia: その後、当該区間において顕著な地盤の沈下・隆起がみられることを理由として、1973年(昭和48年)3月10日に地下区間を高架方式とする計画変更が発表される
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>>1593063
How can he be stopped?
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https://trafficnews.jp/post/103515
Operation of DMV in Shikoku delayed by a bit
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https://trafficnews.jp/post/103295
Among plans to vitalize the Sapporo Okadama Airport, there's a part that suggest giving it a new nickname, and one of the proposal is Sapporo Hatsune Miku Airport
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>>1594507
>Sapporo Hatsune Miku Airport
>Sapporo Clock Tower Airport
Cringe. Why do Japs do this
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Put up enother DDGFINAL guide - 201 Series, driving Shinjuku to Mitaka. Please enjoy.

https://youtu.be/Ttb6taiE18Y
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>>1594768
Nice video.
Going along with the 発車メロ using the brakes is a nice touch.
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>>1594530
>Clock Tower
While I didn't know Crypton is headquartered at Sapporo, this is not much better than Sannomiya Hanadokei-mae Station
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>>1594865
* Worth mentioning it's dubbed one of the 3 disappointments in Japan. It looks overblown beforehand only.
Harimaya-bashi in Kochi attests to the sadness of canals lost in history from land reclamation.
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>>1594173

> That in turn actually caused quite a bit of unrest for the residents along the route throughout the 70s to early 80s and the Saikyo Line was actually one of the results from those unrests.

JNR also built the New Shuttle and capped Tohoku Shinkansen speeds at 110 km/h (to limit noise) to placate residents along the route.

JR East has a 40% stake in New Shuttle, Saitama Prefecture has a 35% stake, and the rest is held by Tobu, Resona Bank, the municipalities along the line, etc. It's also one of the few third-sector railways in Japan to be profitable.
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JR Central decides to cancal all seasonal Tokaido Shinkansen services starting from January 18th onwards amid Emergency Orders and recent surge of staff being infected with COVID-19

https://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000040909.pdf

A more detailed design for the new 315 Series EMU had been released by JR Central

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/94499d142ed746b9839d39ae49cc2066958b0b79

>>1595270
>JNR also built the New Shuttle and capped Tohoku Shinkansen speeds at 110 km/h (to limit noise) to placate residents along the route.

Given how tight some of the curves are and there are quite a lot of them they really couldn't up the speed that much either. I wonder if JR East was able to up the speed to 130 km/h after doing extensive work to reduce noise
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>>1595278
>I wonder if JR East was able to up the speed to 130 km/h
They are upping the max speed to 130km/h between Ueno and Omiya this March.
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201006_ho01.pdf
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>>1595406
I know that they are doing it, but I was wonder if they got the permission to increase the speed due to the assumed infrastructure work
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>>1594530
At least it's not another English-inspired name like 高輪ゲートウェイ.
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>>1595850
They did proposed names like Sapporo *City* Airport
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>>1595870
Well, it's a シティ="shitty" airport.
The name would have fit.
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>>1582312
recently got back into model railroading, and have a 500 series shinkansen. I want more Japanese stuff. Can you guys post your favorite Japanese trains so i can get some inpiration?
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>>1596111
Sunrise Seto/Izumo - the last remaining traditional sleeper trains in Japan.
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>>1596111
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>>1595870
>>1595951
Hope there won't be any arguments with the local sushi and wok restaurants.
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Japan's 1st urban cableway, Yokohama Air Cabin between Sakuragi-chou Station and Shinkou (Red Brick Warehouse, Cup Noodles Museum, etc) along Kisha-michi (former railway) across the Canal Park, to open in April.
Also Kobe City to budget study for a larger system connecting Shinkou (another "new port" between Sannomiya and Port Island with ferry and cruise terminal), Meriken Park (south of Minato-Motomachi Station), and Harborland (Kobe Station)
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>>1596549
No stop inbetween for the Yokohama system?
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>>1596745
Nope. It's really short anyway (630m).
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JR East will cease all in-train sales including Gran Class services (Gran Class seats without food continue as normal though) until further notice

https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20210113_ho02.pdf
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>>1597024
What do "Gran Class" cars get called anyway?
ロ like the Green Cars, or do they get an イ?
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>>1596745
Detachable gondola stations and stopping are still more complex among cableways. You want to minimize stops, or co-locate them at turning stations, etc.
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>>1597051
If JR East ever introduce Gran Class in non-Shinkansen services those cars will probably get イ instead of ロ (Green Car) just like the 87 Series DMU used for Twilight Express Mizukaze
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Did 113/115 series get green cars from the start in Tokyo? Also why did all the suburban lines switch from 11+4 formations to 10+5...except the Yokosuka Line?
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>>1597477
>why did all the suburban lines switch from 11+4 formations to 10+5...except the Yokosuka Line?
There's rumours that they'll switch it over from 11+4 to 5+10 once all the E217s get phased out, in order to make the Green cars line up in the same spot as E231/233s
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>>1597477
>Did 113/115 series get Green Cars from the start in Tokyo?

The 113s did have single deck Green Cars since the 60s and there were plans for the 115s to have Green Cars but that never materialized
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>>1597726
When did the first double-decker green cars arrive?
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>>1597577
Doesn't explain why Yokosuka didn't give a fuck and stayed with 11+4.
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Question: When JR Hokkaido and Hokkaido Airport management company propose having direct service between Asahikawa and New Chitose Airport, are they having this in mind?
https://news.mynavi.jp/article/railwaynews-120/
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>>1597878
According to JP Wikipedia, double-decker Green Cars first came out in 1989 with the SaRo 124/125 (for 113 Series) and SaRo 212/213 (for 211 Series), which increased the seating capacity from 60 to 90

>>1597886
Seems like a lot of work since they'll have to make the infrastructure safe for DMUs
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>>1598016
> The New Xhitose Airport station have used by DMU express trains in the past and is still used by DMU temporary trains nowadays as per the article
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20210117-00010002-norimono-bus_all
Comment say the proposed freight transportation over Shinkansen nowadays appears to be closer to baggage transporting trains in the past than actually freight
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e3e8c8c71d18248f174a9f585fc98135ce3883d0/images/000
Apparently idea for a second Seikan tunnel have been converging, it's suggested to be a double decked tunnel, with road on top and rail at bottom, but the rail will only be single tracked and the road will only allow autonomous vehicles with those that aren't autonomous to be transported over dedicated carrier truck. The author of this artocle question the capacoty of single tracked freight railroad and the use of yet to mature technology
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>>1598189
>nowadays appears to be closer to baggage transporting trains in the past than actually freight
They are different plans. http://kakuyodo.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2020/12/post-82da04.html
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>>1598208
I won't say "they're a different plan" given the information as the information also pointed out different versions of cargo services being possible on Shinkansen and the advantage and disadvantage of each of them.
And are we sure that blog's title isn't about https://ingsoc.fandom.com/wiki/Oceania ?
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>>1598221
It's one of Yokohama baseball team's former name. The author's Twitter and old website shows this.
The title and the center paragraph "対し「令和の貨物新幹線」は、現在のところ貨物列車を運行するのではなく、旅客列車に荷物輸送の機能を付加する方向性で、「昭和の貨物新幹線」とは異なります。そのため大掛かりな貨物駅は不要かもしれませんが、自分で乗降してくれない荷物をどうするかは、どうしても考えねばならない部分です。" aren't accurate. I don't see materials about palletized cargo on Tokaido Shinkansen, or actually implementing containerized cargo on Touhoku Shinkansen not favored according to that source, being discussed
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>>1598321
You probably missed the news
https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/388599
> 新幹線による荷物輸送を事業として軌道に乗せるには、専用車両の開発が欠かせない。今回の取材で、JR東日本が荷物輸送の専用車両についても研究を進めていることがわかった。
> 内藤課長は「我々はあくまでも旅客会社。全車両を荷物専用車両にすることはありえない」と否定的だが、「例えば、7両を旅客用、3両を荷物専用とする発想はある。専用車両の勉強はすでに始めている」と話す。
> 詳細は明らかでないが、荷物をパレット(荷役台)に載せる「パレット式専用車両」を検討しているようだ。
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>>1598323
What are you trying to point out? This is parcelized, not containerized.
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>>1598582
>This is parcelized, not containerized.
It make absolutely zero difference on the topic we are discussing
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20201204-03607805-saga-l41
Saga governor claim FGT is still among the choice for Nagasaki Shinkansen, say it was abandoned due to maintenance cost and time, but Saga governor think that it would still be cheaper than building a new full shinkansen line across Saga
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>>1598601
*Development cost and time
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JR East has announced that it'll build two prototype trains for maintenance work

GV-E197: Diesel-Eletric cars for transporting ballast and transporting rail cars
E493: DC/AC EMU for transporting rail cars.

https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20210119_ho01.pdf

>>1598601
>>1598679
I wonder if he's legit delusional thinking that a FGT with such a large change in gauge would be cheaper to run in the long term
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>>1598934
Well, running FGT wouldn't cause Saga any further amount of money, while most other options will cost Saga a lot so it's definitely cheaper in long run for Saga. The question is what about other parties involved.
And the Safga governor was comparing the development cost and time of a usable version of FGT Shinkansen with the construction cost and time of Full Shinkansen across Saga, it didn't mention operational cost, which I wrote in mistake in my previous post.
Also, the problems Japan is now facing with the FGT iirc isn't the change of gauge being too large, but is instead about the Spanish system cannot be downsized to fit in Japan's narrow gauge system, and hence they need to develop their own alternative system which now proved to be have less reliability, and such lower reliability resulting in the necessity of more frequent checkup and more frequent component replacement, together with the higher cost of FGT trains as well as their heavier weight making the cost of operation much more than regular Shinkansen.
And somehow, China now magically come up with a FGT train with mechanism similar to Spain's yet claim it'll be able to operate and change gauge between anything between 600mm to 1886mm, and can operate with speed up to 400km/h, which sound much more like magic than real technology but if they really can do this then as Toyo Keizai's article describe it'll be possible that we will see Chinese trains running in the Japanese system.
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JR Central announced that it'll go ahead with the production of the HC85 Series Hybrid DMU to replace the current KiHa 85 Series DMU fleet, 64 cars (16 sets) will be produced from 2022 to 2023 and the current prototype will be modified to match the production sets. This also means it'll be a -12 car replacement for now (80 cars + 1 replacement car were built for the KiHa 85 DMUs)

https://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000040930.pdf

>>1598943
>And somehow, China now magically come up with a FGT train with mechanism similar to Spain's yet claim it'll be able to operate and change gauge between anything between 600mm to 1886mm, and can operate with speed up to 400km/h, which sound much more like magic than real technology.

Press X to doubt for that one
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https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/219241
Japanese government approved the construction of Haneda Access Line, route expected to open on FY2029
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>>1599526
4tphpd appears to be at half the frequency of what previously expected at 8tphpd
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New rail-only game, how do you translate NIMBY in Japanese >>1599658
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>>1599670
"ニンビー" probably does the job best.
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https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/6a471813b90645d47fed63f8eab411cc51e95298
From March JR East will allow using IC card to enter ekinaka without riding train and users will no longer need to get paper ticket
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>>1582312
Is Nikkin Kyoiku still a thing in Japan?
And if it is, is it still as harsh?
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>>1599670
I would call it 我田引鉄 but that mean yes in my backyard (to a degree that negatively influence the railroad)
>>1599680
I think Latin character "NIMBY" would work better even in Japanese
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>「ムーンライトながら」運転終了 大垣夜行、歴史に幕
https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2021012200978&g=eco

RIP
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https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2021/sendai/20210120_s01.pdf
Akaiwa Station on the Ou Main Line to be closed on March 12. Note that this station has had no service since 2017.

>>1599945
Seishun18fags btfo
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>>1600074
>Akaiwa Station

And getting there is somewhat of a trek in itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzYNZpRYZnc

>>1599945
>>1600074
Wouldn't this just means people will just use overnight buses instead of Seishun 18 ticket?
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>>1599742
There's no way to write 'by' in japanese. 'bi'/'bii' is phonetically correct.
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>>1600146
I mean, just write it oyt as "NIMBY" in latin characters, like Osaka Metro is now being written as "Osaka Metro" and JR is now being written as "JR"
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>>1600125
>Wouldn't this just means people will just use overnight buses instead of Seishun 18 ticket?
I don't think so since Seishun 18 is specifically targeted as those who would like to travel cheaply on railway and buses are, first, not railway, and second, while cheap still cost some more than an entire day's Seishun 18 in most cases.
There might still be some who wull use other methods to travel between the two area but I don't think JR would be too bothered by them, as those are extremely low yielding passengers.
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>>1600125
>Wouldn't this just means people will just use overnight buses instead of Seishun 18 ticket?
The buses already won that war. Look at how many overnight trains were discontinued in the 90s and 00s. Overnight trains as a practical form of travel are moushindeiru. Plus the tetsu-ota aren't gonna stop using the Seishun 18 ticket just because Moonlight Nagara got cancelled given how cheap it is.
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>>1600162
>Look at how many overnight trains were discontinued in the 90s and 00s.
Wasn't that mostly due to the end of JNR?
A "privatization" where exactly the loss-makers remained in the public's hand, and the profitable parts of JNR were further "optimized" towards profit.
I'm really no socialist, far from it, but great fucking job, Japan.
>Overnight trains as a practical form of travel are moushindeiru.
In Europe they are currently going through a revival.
There are 100% private companies running night trains in Europe these days.
Profitable even during fucking 2020.

Weren't the Moonlight Nagara trains always completely booked?
You can't tell me those weren't profitable. Maybe not "profitable enough", and too much of an oddity. That would be a more convincing argument.
出る釘は打たれるということだな
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>>1600187
>Overnight trains as a practical form of travel are moushindeiru.
In Japan they are. The only one left that isn't a luxury cruise train is the Sunrise Seto/Izumo.
>You can't tell me those weren't profitable.
Highly doubtful the Moonlight Nagara was profitable in recent years. A reserved seat ticket only cost 520 yen, and the majority of the passengers were likely Seishun 18 ticket holders given that the Moonlight Nagara was a seasonal train that only ran when said ticket was available, so JR certainly wasn't making any money off of fares.
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>>1600198
Addendum:
Forgot about West Express Ginga, which isn't a luxury cruise train, but the journey on it is designed to be an enjoyable experience in and of itself rather than simply being transportation from A to B, so the previous point still stands.
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>>1600187
>>Look at how many overnight trains were discontinued in the 90s and 00s.
>Wasn't that mostly due to the end of JNR?
If you have to find a reason for it then Shinkansen would be a more proper reason.
Shinkansen are much higher yielding than night train and don't need all the specific trains or keeping people working at night to operate, which caused them to be consecutively scaled down even in JNR era
And when you compare the demand of overnight travel, what travellers want is to depart later than last Shinkansen and arrive earlier than the first Shinkansen, which isn't actually that time sensitive, and can fully be fulfilled by buses, given that you usually won't experience traffic jam over the midnight. Bus are also much more flexible than train given the much lower capacity and thus much easier to offer point to point services catering the need of different passengers. And they also have lower cost and fare.
>A "privatization" where exactly the loss-makers remained in the public's hand, and the profitable parts of JNR were further "optimized" towards profit.
>I'm really no socialist, far from it, but great fucking job, Japan.
In JR's privatization plan, the three Island JRs were planned to be supported through the operation stability fund. Unfortunately, they calculated the funding support using interest rate of bubble era and is too different from.the real world situation as the bubble bursted shortly after JR's privatization, and thus lead to the current situation we're facing.
>In Europe they are currently going through a revival.
>There are 100% private companies running night trains in Europe these days.
>Profitable even during fucking 2020.
There are a number of differences between Japan and Europe. One of them being the lack of overseas workers in transportation industry. Thus both maintenance and operation staff are in shortage and especially in the midnight, which is part of the reason most Japan rail lines shortened operation time recently
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>>1600208
>Shinkansen would be a more proper reason.
That's part of the reason JR doesn't want to run the night trains. There are more than enough passengers that would prefer a night train.
Which can be summed up as "the end of JNR" being the ultimate reason.
>One of them being the lack of overseas workers in transportation industry.
I haven't seen "overseas workers" on German trains. Not even a single conductor from that spectrum.
(Yes, the ticket controlling staff on trains employed by the transport authorities has a few foreigners, but even among those it's exceedingly rare. So much so, that you'll remember each occurrence for ages.)
There were massive ad campaigns trying to get refugees to do the "Eisenbahner im Betriebsdienst" in Germany.
They aren't enlisting, despite the industry being starved for workers, and salaries being rather appropriate.
At most you get a few long-time unemployed doing a 10-month cheat qualification, that is (rightfully) frowned upon, but those usually don't come from overseas either.

I don't think ending the Moonlight Nagara saves too much on staff either. You need to keep rail traffic controllers on position for freight trains anyway.
I suppose that means JR Freight is the next one to get guillotined.
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>>1600329
>>Shinkansen would be a more proper reason.
>That's part of the reason JR doesn't want to run the night trains. There are more than enough passengers that would prefer a night train.
Hard to say, as the cost structure mean not even 100% load factor can guarantee profitable operation with all the soecial considerations needed to be given to night tine operation, and it's not essential when those who would travel at night is still a sheer minority compares to passengers of Shinkansen on same route
>Which can be summed up as "the end of JNR" being the ultimate reason.
It started before the end of JNR
>>One of them being the lack of overseas workers in transportation industry.
>I haven't seen "overseas workers" on German trains. Not even a single conductor from that spectrum.
No maintenance workers either?
And DB didn't run night train anymore either
>I don't think ending the Moonlight Nagara saves too much on staff either. You need to keep rail traffic controllers on position for freight trains anyway.
There are also things like stations that need to be keep open in the midnight
>I suppose that means JR Freight is the next one to get guillotined.
JR Freight is a separate company and they don't own tracks or passenger stations so their cost base would be different
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>>1600332
>No maintenance workers either?
I don't know, but that's completely unrelated to the operation of night trains.
>And DB didn't run night train anymore either
They said they weren't profitable - akin to what the JRs said.
Then ÖBB (as well as RDC/BTE) came around, and showed them that was but their own fault.
Now they are coming back with full force and across Europe.
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>>1600335
>>No maintenance workers either?
>I don't know, but that's completely unrelated to the operation of night trains.
It is related, as fewer trains in the night mean more time for night time track maintenance to be done without having to hire more people to do thing parallelly
>>And DB didn't run night train anymore either
>They said they weren't profitable - akin to what the JRs said.
>Then ÖBB (as well as RDC/BTE) came around, and showed them that was but their own fault.
OBB doesn't own tracks in Germany so they have different cost bases from DB
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>>1600339
>OBB doesn't own tracks in Germany so they have different cost bases from DB
They have to pay for usage. Do you seriously think you can put a train on German rails, and drive it around for free?
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>>1600341
Thing is, like JR Freight, they only need to pay for the incremental cost of usage, aka the variable cost, to other JR companies who own the track, based on like the number of train cars passed through each rail line, and thus operating at noght time wouldn't incur extra cost for them as a rentee of the railway, unlike those passenger JR companies who own the track.
I have no knowledge of Germany's railway usage right agreement, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar
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>>1600345
In Germany you order a route, and pay for it the due price determined by DB Netz. (publicly accessible: https://www.trassenfinder.de/ )
The price is not necessarily only covering the actual costs associated with that route. There is obviously some profit margin included in that.
That margin is kept in check by federal agencies, since it's a de facto monopoly, but it's there.
I have no fucking idea how that works in Japan. The JR companies aren't obliged to allow other companies to use their infrastructure, are they?
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>>1600388
JR companies have no obligation to let others use their track, except JR Freight, and as JR Freight was being deemed as a lose-making companies together with the three Island JRs, the cost of using those tracks as paid by JR Freight to other JR passenger companies are extremely favorable with only variable cost being covered.
This is the reason why JR Freight cannot become public even when it keep recording profit, as it depends on such unfair advantage from the other JRs to maintain profit, and also the reason that some want JR Freight to increase their payment to JR Hokkaido in order to help maintain JR Hokkaido's rail network, and is also the reason why a significant amount of JR Freight trackage fee actually goes into third sector railway despite they only form a small part of the railway network as they don't follow the agreement between JRs
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Haven't read into the discussion. Since JNR vs JR corporate is mentioned, I should point out the Group's passenger companies themselves already run overnight bus under their respective JR Bus subsidiaries.
Intermodal-wise, bottom line, it's fortunate enough Japan is a thin island that overnight car-ferry can work ok, with a walkable space and enjoyable amenities.
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https://merkmal-biz.jp/post/1162
JR East adding QR code ticket reader to manned ticket gate at some station along Eto line for the convenience of the area's free pass users
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About the emergency door in the front of subway trains, I saw the following description on a Japanese rail magazine
> As emergency door is necessary for subway, trains that run in such section usually have a door in front of middle of the train like through door on trains that would couple and decouple in operation, and the structure of the entire cab also need to avoid the door like those coupling trains with through door.
But, situation changed with the launch of Eidan (Now Toei)'s 6000-series, which shifted the emergency door to the aide's side, and the door itaelf would open frontward to become a stair. This arrangement allow driver's equipment to be paced in a way similar to other non-through trains, and more and more trains opted to use the same arrangement.
Recently, with glass cockpit becoming mainstream where all information are displayed on screen and most trains use three screens, a central exit door would be a significant limit against the placement of three screens and thus offseted emergency door have become mainstream, although there are also like Tokyo Metro series 16000's forst batch that somehow managed to did this
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>>1600801
>which shifted the emergency door to the aide's side
Doesn't that lead to trouble with trains only being able to couple on one side?
You may need to send a train through a wye to get it to couple with another one.
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>>1601040
Moving the door position doesn't mean you also need to move the coupler position to the side. It's not like you need to open the door when the yhe goal is just to move it away
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>>1601152
But then the whole "emergency door" thing becomes void, doesn't it?
You can't necessarily leave the train through the "front door" anymore, if the doors between the cars aren't connected, and allow to get from one car to the other.
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>>1601156
In the cases when trains need to be pulled back to depot, I would assume passemgers would already be evacuated, or that the train will be first stop at the nearest station for deboarding
And each trains usually have two doors on both ends of the train
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvVbycp5aU

The current hot topic.
A conductor shows toritetsu the middle finger.
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It appears that the completion of the Utsunomiya Light Rail will be delayed by a year to 2023 due to Corona and modifications for certain infrastructures.

https://www.city.utsunomiya.tochigi.jp/kurashi/kotsu/lrt/1026119.html
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>>1602046
>Still need about one more year to acquire unacquired lands
what
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https://tabiris.com/archives/shinotaru202004/
Hokaido Shinkansen Shin Otaru station will have no restaurants, no convenient store, no shops, no kiosks, only toilet, waiting space, locker, and tourism information will be in the station.
Even Anaka Haruna station have a restaurant in it.
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>>1601611
based
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>>1602857
I wouldn't call it a proper resturant either since it is basically just a booth that triples as rental car and tourist information office with some foldable furniture, and there are no conbini in the station's vicinity either.
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>>1602857
Great opportunity for the revival of food vending machine.
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The second KiHa 261-5000 DMU set (in Lavender) has been delivered to JR Hokkaido's Naebo Depot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbqKRTauio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcwO8lHckgI

>>1603545
Since it is Japan, what could be sold besides the "usual fare" like oden, udon, and perhaps onigiri (or whatever that has a relatively long shelf life)?
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>>1598934

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nahlnKcCYQ4
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>>1606167
I would I say I don't know what isn't sold in some vending machine. You could look at all the "convenience store" machines, drink or food machines in PA-s on roads, and ferries. Some combini machines replaced shops in train stations, which before have mostly been trending in private facilities (eg factories, offices, schools). The pressure against 24/7 and labor-short combini in general drew more attention to these as an alternative/complement.
Most common is Family Mart which acquired and rebranded Automatic Super Delice <"ASD"> from Am/pm of BP. Seven-Eleven is a recent new comer.
>oden
Canned only
>perhaps onigiri
Yaki-onigiri is a common hot food item. Boxes of hot snacks and small hot meal servings.
>udon
>(or whatever that has a relatively long shelf life)
Prepared noodle bowls (only heated soup added) is what has been going extinct, with machines being obsolete and unsupported. That's the origin of retro Showa vending machine nostalgia. Cup Noodles machine is the newer choice.
The former obviously needs to be restocked frequently.
Cold crepes machine is a newer one. Before that, there are fresh bread and pastry machines, so not those combini packaged desserts and sandwich.
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>>1606512
You can occasionally see this type of food vending machines. I think they just microwave whatever frozen food they sell.
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JR Freight puvlished long term vision for 2030 last month.
https://www.jrfreight.co.jp/about/csr/plan
http://cargo-news.co.jp/cargo-news-main/2757
They want to add more block train https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_train
And also addimg temperature-controlled train service.
There are also brief mention of evaluation with passenger JR companies on Freight Shinkansen.
JR Freight president say they released such long term vision as they feel the need of it, and coincided with the plan to expand operation support measure by reforming JNR debt law
They think discussion on the rail usage fee will be brought up in the next ten years but the long term vision is made assuming it will remain unchanged.
They want to continue keeping operational profit (of 14 billion yen per year according to previous mid-term repory) even with natural disaster or economic turbulence, and to reach the goal of total privatization.
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>>1589165
>The Tsugaru Strait is 20 kilometers wide at its narrowest, as in you can't even see Honshu from Hakodate because it's hidden behind the Earth's curvature.

Is this true? Not that the Earth is curved, that's obviously true, but that the Tsugaru Strait is so wide that you can't see Honshu from Hokkaido or vice versa.

I heard the Kanmon Strait is so narrow you could walk across it, which is why extending the Sanyo Shinkansen to Fukuoka wasn't the financial and logistical nightmare that the Seikan Tunnel was.

> apparently the soil was a nightmare

I've heard the same thing about the soil as well. 34 workers died in the construction. Maybe someone who reads moonrunes can explain why the tunnel was so hard to build, why it took so long and why it ballooned so much over budget.

> Kakuei Tanaka-esque cost overruns that defined infrastucture megaprojects in the Showa era.

Hiroaki Taya, the bureaucrat in charge of Japan's transportation budget during JNR's privatization, famous called the Seikan Tunnel one of the "Three Boondoggles of Showa" (昭和三大馬鹿査定) alongside the battleship Yamato and the Ise Bay reclamation project in Nagoya. Joetsu Shinkansen should have been considered the fourth.

> I wonder how much tunnel debt JRTT is shouldering, and how long it'll take to pay off.

JRTT pays off the construction debt, and JR Hokkaido covers rail maintenance plus one third of the tunnel renovation project which has been going on for more than 20 years now. Couldn't find hard numbers though. Again, somebody who can read moonrunes, please help out
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I've seen レ in two different types of contexts:

-On schedules, to denote a station that express trains skip. But why レ, where did it come from?
-As part of train numbers in the 1960s. e.g. 121レ was a local train from Ueno to Koriyama that took 5 hours and 17 minutes. There was also the 123レ to Ichinoseki and 125レ to Fukushima. vgain, what does the レ represent?
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>>1607931
>Is this true? Not that the Earth is curved, that's obviously true, but that the Tsugaru Strait is so wide that you can't see Honshu from Hokkaido or vice versa.
I don't think so. Japanese site say you can at good day
https://world-note.com/tsugaru-strait-size/
>I heard the Kanmon Strait is so narrow you could walk across it, which is why extending the Sanyo Shinkansen to Fukuoka wasn't the financial and logistical nightmare that the Seikan Tunnel was.
I have walked across it, took about twnety minutes
>I've heard the same thing about the soil as well. 34 workers died in the construction. Maybe someone who reads moonrunes can explain why the tunnel was so hard to build, why it took so long and why it ballooned so much over budget.
Few days ago I heard a Japanese mentioning that don't forget work on Seikan tunnel actually started "before" the age of economic boom in Japan, with technology at the time. It was year 1946 when they started investigating the soil, 1960s when they started cutting the earth. And the depth and the length of such tunnel was also never done before.
>cost overruns that defined infrastucture megaprojects in the Showa era.
The economic boom during the era would also explain such cost overrun among projects at the time. (As economic boom, everything including salary are becoming more expensive, those aren't something you can foresee before hand
>> I wonder how much tunnel debt JRTT is shouldering, and how long it'll take to pay off.
>JRTT pays off the construction debt, and JR Hokkaido covers rail maintenance plus one third of the tunnel renovation project which has been going on for more than 20 years now. Couldn't find hard numbers though. Again, somebody who can read moonrunes, please help out
https://s.response.jp/article/2020/12/25/341663.html
As part of new support measure to HR Hokkaido and JR Shikoku, JRTT is now taking over the maintenance cost of Seikan tunnel and Setouchi bridge line
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>>1607986
>I've seen レ in two different types of contexts:
>-On schedules, to denote a station that express trains skip. But why レ, where did it come from?
https://trafficnews.jp/questions/183
Reportedly it represent an arrow
>-As part of train numbers in the 1960s. e.g. 121レ was a local train from Ueno to Koriyama that took 5 hours and 17 minutes. There was also the 123レ to Ichinoseki and 125レ to Fukushima. vgain, what does the レ represent?
Apparently it stand for 列車, Ressha, aka Train
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/列車番号の付番方法
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Can I get a quick rundown on why the 700 series is generally disliked?
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>>1608295
>why the 700 series is generally disliked
By whom?
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>>1608336
Some guy in another thread
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>>1608091

> As part of new support measure to HR Hokkaido and JR Shikoku, JRTT is now taking over the maintenance cost of Seikan tunnel and Setouchi bridge line

Are hard numbers available for Seikan construction + maintenance debt?
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>>1608466
The support mentioned in the report seems to be referring to the cost from now on, instead of past debt
On another news, while there are no specific break down, but the amount of JNR debt inherited by national government have already been down by 8 trillion to 16 trillion Yen left by the end of FY2019, comparing to FY1998
https://s.response.jp/article/2021/02/05/342870.amp.html
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https://www.fukuishimbun.co.jp/articles/-/1245131
JRTT to compensate 3-sectors for Hokuriku Shinkansen delay
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https://merkmal-biz.jp/post/1725
Japanese train company JR Kyushu is now trying to use Quantum computer, AI, and advanced arithmetic modelling to make time table for its own trains

https://trafficnews.jp/post/104537
Kyoto municipal transportation authority will cancel a number of discounts amid coronavirus-caused financial difficulty

https://trafficnews.jp/post/104491
Trolley train operation on part of the now-abolished Sanko line have been planned, with trial run to begin tomorrow

https://trafficnews.jp/post/104556
NEXCO to compensate ~1000 houses around tunnel boring failure site
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>>1608606
>Japanese train company JR Kyushu is now trying to use Quantum computer, AI, and advanced arithmetic modelling to make time table for its own trains
There isn't much a quantum computer could optimize in a system with fewer and fewer trains and lines.
The exponential blow-up starts becoming very manageable for JR Kyushu on regular machines.
That is not to say that it won't help, but there are way better places to start using your money on.
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>>1608606

> Japanese company
> quantum computer
> AI

Press FAX to doubt

>>1608693

> in a system with fewer and fewer trains and lines.

Yeah isn't JR Kyushu hemorrhaging money due to the extreme depopulation crisis on the island? Everyone's moving to Tokyo.
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>>1608409
That qualifies as "generally" to you?
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>>1608693
"Optimize" in company financial speak is another word for "cutting resource", I think
The article also mentioned the goal of such optimization is to fundamentally cut cost
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>>1608606
>>1608693
>>1608875
>>1609017
what that probably means is that they will be subscribing to some big data company services to predict demand levels beforehand using data.
Its used by McDonalds and other companies in the US, however the results are not known yet.
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>>1609136
No, it's specifically talking about forming time table instead of predicting demand.
It say that, until now they have to have experienced staffs to decide train formation and when trains get sent to cleaning and at what places, and to form time table based on such restriction, but they hope that by automating and optimizing it, they can reduce the number of train cars needed in their fleet and thus will be able to reduce their maintenance and replacement cost.
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Road news:

https://www.mlit.go.jp/report/press/road01_hh_001413.html
MLIT designates 3 pedestrian-friendly street/boulevard sections in Kansai for relaxed streetside outdoor seating and event space rules. Somehow they decided to use Google My Maps...

https://www.city.chuo.lg.jp/kusei/kohokotyo/press/puresureiwa2/press210208-2.html
Tokyo Chuo Ward budgets investigation study into Toshin--Rinkai metro , and Shutoko Inner Circular Loop Tsukijigawa section landscape deck covering in conjunction with its overhaul and renewal

https://www.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/tosei/hodohappyo/press/2021/02/12/13.html
Tokyo Metropolis strategy to accelerate utility pole removal on Metropolitan Route-s by 2040s.

https://www.mlit.go.jp/road/ir/ir-council/chicyuka/doc13.html
MLIT discusses utility pole removal on emergency transport routes by 2050s, and restraint on new utility poles, as well as setback of utility poles on private lands.

>>1608606
>https://trafficnews.jp/post/104556
>NEXCO to compensate ~1000 houses around tunnel boring failure site
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https://news.livedoor.com/lite/article_detail/19560579/
Fare for the ropeway in Yokohama will be 1000 Yen per head per direction for adult, 500 for kids. Which is comparable to nearby attractions like observatory deck of Yokohama Landmark Tower or ferris wheel
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210123/k10012829171000.html
Tokyo Metro privatization discussion have started, with revenue to be use on Tohoku area recovery from 2011 earthquake
.... While supporting Tohoku is nice and all, I feel like the money, especially for Tokyo part of the share, could have been better spent at building Kannana and Kanhachi railway, or the extension of Keiyo Line toward Chuo Line direction to support quadruple tracking of Chuo line section further out.
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210214/k10012866691000.html
https://tetsudo-ch.com/11196620.html
Tohoku Shinkansen need about 10 days to restore service amid yesterday's earthquake
At least 20 poles confirmed broken or fallen
Conventional line service will fully restore tomorrow, with additional trains to be operated on Joban line and Uetsu Main Line, in addition to cooperation with airlines and bus companies, to cover travel demand between Tokyo and Tohoku cities
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Akita Shinkansen will only operate 6× pair of trains between Akita and Morioka each day for now as the Tohoku Shinkansen pending to be fixed, with headway of 2-3 hours
Limited Express Inaho #11 will extend from Sakata to Akita as temporary (non-limited) express train 8011M and arrive Akita station at 22:55

Tohoku Main Line, while service have restored, is still experiencing some delays due to the earthquake

On Joban Line, the northbound train Limited Express Hitachi 9 and 25 and the southbound train Limited Express Hitachi 22 will also be extended from Iwaki to Sendai as temporary (non-limited) express train
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The new Aomori Station building and a new passageway to the west of the station will open on March 27th this year to replace the current station building, which has been in use for more than 61 years..

https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/morioka/20210215_mr11.pdf
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The Hitachi 22*, which travels from Sendai to Shinagawa eventually arrived at Ueno at around 2:37 am on the next day (16th) after going through 8 hours worth of delays throughout the Joban Line due to inclement weather. Apparently the train didn't depart from Sendai until around 6 pm, which basically caused a cascade of delays

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/33b9df4ac3bddf5c1f13d6b54f66a875b0c206a7
Suit filming the station when the train finally arrived at Ueno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qps-3LmPyM
Gami waiting for said train at a railroad crossing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQv7ypGa770

*Due to the current problems on the Tohoku Shinkansen it runs as a Seasonal Rapid between Sendai and Iwaki before contiuning to Tokyo as Hitachi 22.
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Would you recommend this book?
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>>1611500
Watched as soon as he posted it, i just wish they added captions in japanese, YT auto translate doesn't make any sense.
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>>1611657
>>>/int/djt
If you are interested in Japanese railways, it pays off thousandfold, and you also have a clear-cut vocabulary to learn.
Admittedly 遅れ/delay doesn't belong there in Japan most of the time.
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https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2021021801248&g=eco
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20210218/k00/00m/040/221000c
JR West: due to coronavirus, it will be very difficult for them to keep operating lose-making local lines. They will talk with local areas on future of those lines with options like converting into bus or LRT services. It's said that vast amount of lines are in trouble.
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>>1611825
I'm no communist, but privatization of railways really is a mistake.
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>>1611867
Just let them stop the services while corona is still there.
Its not like buses and cars stopped existing.
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>>1611901
I think this would be fine, but the issue is they are thinking of permanently suspending the service.
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>>1611901
Stopping services during Corona looks acceptable at first glance.
The thing is, that would ultimately be used as an excused to close those lines down for good.
Service frequency is already horrendous in the 田舎 to begin with, and infrastructure has been cut to a bare minimum in many places. They aren't as much of a money sink as they try to make them out to be.
The thing driving the big JR companies into the reds at the moment is the massive drop in ridership on their usually money-printing Shinkansen and metropolitan lines.
It's completely unrelated to the "loss-making local lines". It is part of the deal that they'd keep operating those in exchange for keeping control of the money-printing machines mentioned above.
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>>1611825
The report is misleading. The article only cited the short single-digit passenger section on Geibi Line. Other <1k sections are all in the hundreds, should mostly be >500. It overstated their difficulty.
JR West itself stopped Kibi Line tram conversion together with Okayama and Souja municipalities

>>1611867
It works where it works, for the 4 listed companies.
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>>1612003
* This and the adjacent sections have operating ratio calculated at ~1k, ~100k, ~10k. The line overall should be ~700, benefited by ~200 close to Hiroshima. It's crucial not to forget both Tokaido Line (JR Kyoto and Kobe lines) and Sanyo Line are ~110 and ~120, being >100.
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>>1612006
>Tokaido Line (JR Kyoto and Kobe lines)
* Including them, as it calculates Biwa-ko Line
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>>1612003
>The article only cited the short single-digit passenger section on Geibi Line.
The line being cited is only an additional information attached by the news publisher. All reports said JR West didn't name specific lines, but they mentioned they have already been in discussion with localities along some line sections and they want to expand the coverage.

When they used the wording "local lines that are consistently making losses", I think the consistently making loses criteria actually cover everything outside Kansai, Thunderbird's service area, or Setouchi Bridge Line are lose making, but Sanyo Main Line, San'in Main Line, and Hakubi Line aren't "local lines".
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「JR西日本「危ういローカル線」はどこか。社長が今後のあり方に踏み込む | タビリス」:https://tabiris.com/archives/local-rail202002/
This is a more detailed report on JR West's announcement
>>1611998
Of course it is not loss-making local lines that cause them become red, but lacking revenue from Shinkansen and long distance express trains cause them to have no money in excess to support those loss making local lines.
>Stopping services during Corona looks acceptable at first glance.
>The thing is, that would ultimately be used as an excused to close those lines down for good.
The problem is not excuse, but that the maintenance cost. Maintenance cost is the biggest cost fot low frequency local lines, if you pause service on a line but intended to continue using it in the future, you will still need to maintain it thus cannot save money, if you try to also pause the maintenance, then the maintenance bill will quickly adds up when you try to resume service, and will become economically unfeasible really quickly. Hence they aren't talking about suspension, instead permanent cut.
>>1611901
See above
as for buses, many smaller settlements serviced by local lines don't have buses in the forst place, so additional vehicles and drivers will be needed. Which actually is also a problem given the aging population in Japan.
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>>1612163
>Geibi Line, Tojo-Bingo Ochiai
>営業係数: 106,801.9
Holy shit lmao
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>>1612189
It's not that surprising when that portion of the line has barely any customers in the first place with a passenger volume of 9 person / km / day back in 2016 (seen in chart)
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>>1612003
https://www.nishiuraexp.com/entry/2020/05/31/185500
The Kibi line conversion plan wasn't a plan to cut lost, instead it's a proposal to increase the number of stops and frequency in order to attract more ridership. Of course it's going to be interrupted amid the current usage situation.
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>>1612166
>The URL
> JR West president said, after the spread of coronavirus disease, "The future that's supposed to come in 10 years suddenly arrive in 1 year, change in movements that are not temporary have extended," and thus "acceleration in structural transformation and further cost cutting are essential", and it mentioned some of the changes will not be able to wait for next year's schedule change, and that "for local lines that can currently be aubstained through subsidies from within the group, discussion on their future are to be imitated at an accelerated rate, and to achieve a sustainable future of local transports, they'll be reviewed with abandonment of line in the view.
The report also quoted the president of saying "kanari" line sections are troubled.
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With freight transportation to take a significant role in Hokkaido's upcoming expanded third sector railway, will JR Freight become a shareholder of it like Kashima Rinkai Railway and Mizushima Rinkai Railway?
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>>1612375
>えちごトキめき
>あいの風とやま
Cringe.
>IRいしかわ
>しなの
>北越
Those are pretty much okay, aren't they?
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>>1612379
I mean talking about their new collaborated product from a few months ago as depicted in this image, which is a sort of fukubukuro, but they name it as tetsubukuro since tetsu=rail, and then decided to write it as "Fe-bukuro" because Fe=Chemical symbol of Iron=tetsu, and "Fe"="/F/ive /e/lectric railways"

Also one of the reason why IR is named IR was because I come before J in the alphabet so as to signify their goal of IR > JR, and IR=アイアル=愛ある
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>>1612383
The Fe=鉄(道) thing is awful, yeah.
At this point we should simply be glad, they didn't call themselves えちごハートビート and ラブタイフーン.
The IR tidbit is interesting (and cringe), thanks for pointing it out.
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>>1612204
It's the same for Ube Line and Onoda Line "BRT" conversion this month.
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Tokyo Metro 17000 EMU has started operation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqkh-7ZvXKc
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>>1611825
God it’s such a shame Japan completely fucked up the coronavirus response and companies are doing shit like this. It’s no secret that the countries best off are island nations and Japan could have been one of them. They could have closed the borders, wiped out the virus (to zero cases) with a national lockdown and then used hotel quarantine to prevent subsequent outbreaks. They had 3 chances to get it right and to this day they still have no hotel quarantine system. You can fly into the country infected and transmit it to thousands of people on your way to your residence. Japan could have had no long term masks, or business closures and could be living normally right now but the fucking ancient government completely underestimated the situation like they do everything else
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>>1612839
No island nation has done well. Australia is still dealing with it despite having turned itself into a police state. New Zealand has become a hellhole English speaking North Korea driving people away with the only people praising it being the people who tongue their awful prime minister's arse and Britain keeps locking down harder and harder and screaming at people while the economy goes to shit. It's almost as if there's no real effective way to contain this thing and lockdowns were a stupid idea.

>But China did i-

China keeps having outbreaks, keeps imposing lockdowns, blames foreigners, then repeats the cycle.
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>>1613348
>New Zealand has become a hellhole English speaking North Korea
lmao
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>>1613348
steady on now, looks like someone's had a little too much to think.
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>>1613348
Example of Island nations performing good if you exclude Australia and New Zealand: Taiwan, Iceland, Singapore, a number of Caribbean countries, and vast amount of countries in South Pacific, including those formerly administered by Japan
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20210223-00000012-sut-l22
Yamanashi governor ask Shizuoka governor to cooperate on Mt. Fuji railroad project

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/d80f730ae61655e5775fa0836516928d13079b36
JR Shikoku recorded lowest monthly revenue record for the 11th month consecutively with January only reaching 31.5% previous year figure. They hope it can recover witj the start of vaccination campaign.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/001be246c327e28eff21374c6c36f3df8f3a425f
Crowdfunding for nekomimi train started

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/80a7884bc9db332d78fdc08b5c36bc421d79b06d
Tohoku Shinkansen service will restore tomorrow but the trip will still take an additional hour due to speed limit and most Hokkaido Shinkansen trains will terminate at Aomori

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c9d97c00ac47a101e52cd4a6232900f0f9d24432
Local governors along Oigawa river urge JR Central not to start work on Chuo Shinkansen until "obtained understanding and cooperation from.lpcal area" as national government have made such a stance

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/pickup/6385913
Not rail, but Peach will end Takoyaki in flight meal

Corona:
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/pickup/6385919
On Japanese media, a news say Japanese government might finally upgrade the request to shorten restaurant opening time to be a mandatory requirement.
But a comment say, as a restaurant worker, while they comply with the government request to shorten opening time to until 8pm, it get noticably more busy and crowded during the remaining opening hour, and thus think the rule is meaningless and should be ended

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/pickup/6385922
Japanese government internally floated the idea of only admitting vaccines once to each receivers, seeing as there are report of certain degree of effectiveness even with only one dose and vaccine supply is limited in general, but health department rejected it saying there are no sufficient data, unscientific
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>>1613726
>Mt. Fuji railroad project
Wouldn't that kind of desecrate Mt.Fuji?
Good to see Yamanashi and Shizuoka are trying to get along, though.
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>>1613348
>New Zealand has become a hellhole English speaking North Korea driving people away
fuck off we're full
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>>1613745
No, the plan is to build it on the existing Fuji Subaru line and replace all bus services.
https://www.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1306065.html
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>>1613745
>Wouldn't that kind of desecrate Mt.Fuji?
Recently there is an article on Toyo Keizai, saying the two prefectures trying to impose tax on hiking the Mt. Fuji is in infringement on the religion of worshipping Mt. Fuji and would deprive donation to the shrine on the mountain, and claim that since the defeat of Japan in WWII and the emforced separation of the national government and religion, the national and local government have consistently ignored the religious side of the Mt. Fuji in administrative work and tried to deny the shrine from administering the mountain with the desire of controlling it directly
>Good to see Yamanashi and Shizuoka are trying to get along, though.
They actually get along pretty well in a number of issues.
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>>1612839
>God it’s such a shame Japan completely fucked up the coronavirus response
Compared to any Europe+NA nation they've done tons better.
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Really want to go back lads.
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>>1614106
why did it rotate? fucking hell.
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>>1613348
>despite having turned itself into a police state
Oh no not the heckin maskerino I'm literally dying having to put a piece of cloth on my face

>there's no real effective way to contain this thing
Implying the system isn't perfect therefore it's useless. The current daily case rate in Australia is 0 (zero). Apart from the random outbreaks quarantine obviously works to keep it out you fucking moron

>lockdowns were a stupid idea
Proven to work 3 times so far

>the economy goes to shit
Countries that locked down first, shut their borders and imposed quarantine have the least economic retraction.
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>>1614107
Because photo taken by smartphones have their orientation data stored in photo file meta data which the imageboard wouldn't recognize.
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>>1614107
>>1614183
*which the imageboard removes

There were major EXIF-related incidents way back (self-doxxings through included GPS data and such), so moot made the board software remove that by default.
>>>/p/ doesn't remove them for obvious reasons.
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>>1614142
just... wow. had to fetch my sunglasses to read this post.
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>>1614238
He's right though.
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>>1614674
yeah nah.
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>>1614142
>>1614674
>arguing with a retard
Its only you to blame.
>going to war and dying for oil companies profit=good
>using a protection to save your grandma=bad
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I tried googling, but it didn't help.

What's the full story behind "ど〜け〜よ〜ど〜け〜よ〜こわすぞ〜"?
I know as much as that it imitates the 警笛 of 名鉄 trains, but nothing more.
Is it exclusive to 名鉄?
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>>1596111
Don't have a pic, but get the Super View Odoriko.
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>>1615083
Probably something that someone made up and caught on since there's so many variations of the "lyrics": e.g. ころすぞ or はねるぞ instead of こわすぞ.
Meitetsu also has an audio clip of the horn on their website for anyone who wants it: https://www.meitetsu.co.jp/train/guidance/museum/panorama_car/movie/
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>>1615193
Thanks for the link!
I actually only knew the ころす one before, but then saw the こわす one in a YT comment, and thought that had to be the proper one for obvious reasons.
So I suppose it's Meitetsu-only, right?
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>>1615216
>So I suppose it's Meitetsu-only, right?
As far as I am aware, I believe so since they are the only company to use this specific melody.
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Yikes Michael
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>>1615421
I tried
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>>1615423
Hey man, I understand, I once sent a dicpic to my sister by mistake.
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>>1615424
Thanks man

Here's the picture I meant to post
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>>1615423
>>1615425
Don't forget to also ask the archives to take it down.





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