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>>1582312What was the reason for renumbering C11 1?
>>1582507The C11 "1" Tobu acquired and restored was from a defunct railway company called Kojaku Railways built in 1947, which was different from the original JNR C11 1 (built in 1932) currently residing in Ome Railway Park.
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20201207/k00/00m/040/153000cShizuoka governor latest speech on Chuo ShinkansenIn additipn to the water problem, which he deacribed it as "water of life", he claim that Southern Alps is a valuable natural environment of the world which have already registered, and claim more discussions and dialogue are necessary before necessity of the line and its construction permit can be approvedSomeone im.the local congress asked him "It's difficult to omagine it'd cause water lost 100km down stream", to which the Shizuoka Minister of Life and Environment responded by saying "If flow downstream cannot be maintained then it have possibility of impacting underground water in downstream area." He also claimed that, for soil beimg dig out during the construction of tunnel, they may include naturally occurring toxic substances like heavy metal, if those soil goes into river nd underground water then it might negatively impact the water quality, and that the soil around designated place to place these soil are said to be of weak foundation and he said they worry landslide would happen and cause outflow of soil being dig out with harmful substances insideAs for the dam that's currently discharging the river's water to Yamanashi, deputy governor claim the water flow near the dam is certainly exoected to reduce, and its impact on those with water right is something up to JR Central to think about.
>>1582861Isn't the prefecture's actual biggest problem with the Chuo-Shinkansen, that it won't get a station?
>>1582868Chuo Shinkansen in its current form is impossible to argue a station should be added within Shizuoka territoryWhat would be the fallback if the Chuo Shinkansen project fail? Quadrupling of Tokaido Shinkansen track? If that's the case that would benefit Shizuoka the most?
>>1582870That arguing with water simply feels reminiscent of what Tesla is currently facing in Germany.People from Bavaria hate that Tesla has decided to build in Brandenburg, and in order to fight that have formed environmentalist groups that mostly argue regarding the natural water supply in the factory area.Shizuoka should simply say what it wants to happen. That may get overruled, but this crooked way of trying to force one's will on other people is disgusting.政治家駅 need to go and stay go.
>>1582874Well they did have said they want a new station on Tokaido Shinkansen under Shizuoka Airport, they want Nozomi to stop in their prefecture after opening of Chuo Shinkansen, and now they want the Chuo Shinkansen project to not get built, but none of these are progressing.The Shizuoka governor have said that Chuo Shinkansen is not necessary in the post-coronavirus era where concentration at big cities are proved bad and remote meeting have become trend, and that it's time to focus on supporting local area instead of adding more infrastructure for cities, which in my opinion reflect a fear that Shizuoka will be bypassed and passengers do not need to travel through Shizuoka along Tokaido Shinkansen if Chuo Shinkansen get built, causing damages to economic activity in the prefecture, in tge same way how some rural area oppose construction of Shinkansen out of fear that travellers heading through the area will be lost to Shinkansen.
I will jump in front of a moving Shinkansen if the maglev gets cancelled.
>>1582882>Shizuoka will be bypassed and passengers do not need to travel through Shizuoka along Tokaido Shinkansen if Chuo Shinkansen get built, causing damages to economic activity in the prefectureHow does this logic even make sense? The majority of Tokaido Shinkansen services already bypass the prefecture, so it's not like they lose anything with those passengers using the Chuo Shinkansen. If anything, Shizuoka will stand to gain from the Chuo Shinkansen if more Tokaido Shinkansen services can stop at Shizuoka/Hamamatsu after it's built.
what still operational japanese steam locomotive would be able to tested out and pushed for high speed just for the sake of it?
>>1583024The value that Shizuoka is right on the artery between Tokyo, Nagoya and Osaka is immerse for both business or sightseeing industry in the prefecture. And the most popular image of Shizuoka is Mt. Fuji and the most popular view of it is the one that have Tokaido Shinkansen passing right in front of it from Shizuoka side of the mountain. They will still be there after Chuo Shinkansen finished, but travellers between Tokyo and Osaka will get a brief view of Mt. Fuji from Yamanashi side instead, and Chuo Shinkansen will also replaced Tokaido's role as the artery of Japan's major cities hence expelling Shizuoka from the range.
>>1583053Maybe the Limited Express Asia would still be operational if you can identify the whereabouts of that locomotive
The VR mode in Densha de GO! (PS4) looks fun:https://twitter.com/S130226/status/1334512859057975296
Updated seats in improved L0
>>1583112i think there's some preserved in Shenyang
2021 Timetable revisions for JR Hokkaido:https://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20201209_KO_kaisei.pdfQuick overview:-Cuts to Limited Express and Local services as announced back in October-Reduction in number of cars for some limited express services-H100 series to replace some/all older DMUs on Muroran and Soya Lines-18 stations with little/no ridership to be closed
>>1583500Interestingly, while Bakkai Station on the Soya Line was planned to be axed, the city of Wakkanai will be paying for its maintenance and thus it survices for another year, but Tokumitsu Station will be closed even though its closure was never announced beforehand.
>>1583500>-18 stations with little/no ridership to be closedJR Hokkaidou really needs a Geoff to make those stations more popular.I know stations in the far North of Sweden that see practically no passengers, and where you need to flag down one of the four or five trains a day yourself.They never really considered closing those down, though. What's even the net gain there for JR Hokkaidou? That it gets easier to close down the line as a whole?Is Tokyo giving up its northmost isle? Just give it to Russia, if you don't need it anymore. This is ridiculous.
>>1583595>What's even the net gain there for JR Hokkaidou?At the end of the document, it says closing the stations reduce costs by 50 million JPY. That being said, reducing services/vehicle count saves far more money.I don't think this move is as terrible as you're making it out to be. If you check out pics of these stations, you'll see that they're mostly just surrounded by farmland and a few houses or near a major road. Nothing particularly scenic or of interest for a tourist. JR Hokkaido was already hemorrhaging money before COVID, and they say in the PDF that they don't expect demand to fully recover even after COVID. JR Hokkaido can't survive on its own, and they've turned to the local municipalities for help to preserve low-ridership stations, and the running costs for 12 stations on the Soya and Sekihoku Lines are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.One question I do have is why JR Hokkaido doesn't have flag stops. Is there a law against it in Japan?
>>1583756>12 stations on the Soya and Sekihoku Lines are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.Corrected: 18 stations
>>1583756>are going to be covered by cities and towns starting March 2021.So Suga (and maybe Aso?) wants to shift the financial load from the national fiscal budget (JR Hokkaidou remains at 100% state-owned) to the communal fiscal budget?Great going there! That will totally save rural Japan!
>>1583779Rural areas in Japan (and elsewhere) are screwed regardless.
https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?SerialNo=101797Taiwan HSR operator and government think the price of N700S-based train they intended to buy is too expensive, costing 500 million TWD (1.8 billion JPY) per train set, which is 2.5 times the original 700T they brought.And apparently one reason behind such high cost is they're only trying to buy 8 trains with 4 options, so the fixed cost like production line cost could not be spread out.>>1583595Main cost of a simple unmanned station is to maintaining and cleaning the structure of the station itself, for JR Hokkaido it additionally includes hiring staff to remove snow from stations during winter. Making the train stops only when being called isn't going to help save the cost. (And the system of notifying driver which stations it should stop will probably cost them more?)Also, since all trains in Japan adheres to the timetable at each station, even if you make a stop optional, the train will still need to stay at the station until it's time for them to depart.>>1583779It's not a new arrangement. These stations will otherwise be abandoned by HR Hokkaido, so some local villages/towns would like to pay for the maintenance themselves to sustain their existence
>>1582868Yes, the environmental concerns have been proven many times to be over blown. Proposed construction techniques would have little impact on the water flow and the finished line would have a negligible impact from what I last remembered. It's literally because they don't get a station like they wanted because it would be too out of the way.Even though it's BS, honestly at this point it seems like Shizuoka should just be offered some kind of compensation that makes the governor change his mind like a toll charge for trains passing through. It's obvious that the strategy of waiting and hoping he gets voted out isn't going to work, and unlike with small towns blocking the American Interstate system in the 70s, the Chuo line has no purpose if it has to be split in two with a bus transfer between Shizuoka since it would end up slower than the Nozomi and would only be a novelty.
>>1583889>Shizuoka should just be offered some kind of compensation that makes the governor change his mindThis.That entire environmental bullshit distracts from actual solutions.Unfortunately it's the only trump card left for Shizuoka to play, so they will naturally do it.
>>1583889Shizuoka proposed opening the line only until Yamanashi and sell package tour through it for people to travel around the Mt. Fuji area which also includes Shizuoka
A summary of Yamanashi Prefecture's concept of a "Fujisan Tozan Railway" which would be built on Mt. Fuji's Fuji Subaru Line from Highway 139 to the 5th Stationhttps://www.pref.yamanashi.jp/chosa/fujisan_railway/documents/201202_material01.pdfJR East has revealed the E235-1000 Series EMU entering service for the Yokosuka-Sobu Line to the presshttps://news.mynavi.jp/article/20201212-e2351000photo/
>>1584765What the hell do they think "LRT" is by proposong it for the Mt. Fuji?
>>1584765>Exempted transportation system>System that might not apply to the consecutive slopes of Mt. Fuji: Electric busesWhat, pretty sure electric buses can handle slopes even better than regular buses?>Special rail or guideway etc. that would present big impact on view amd affect vehicle operation: Monorail, New Transportation System, Guideway Bus, SkyRail, Steel wheeled linear motor car, AeromobileHow's guidewat bus worse than regular train in this aspect?>Systems that are not thematic and not advanced: Trolley busWhatThen on page 19, they're saying rack railway is bad abd LRT are good because of noise and vibration and barrier free access? And ability for emergency vehicles to just drive on the track? Don't you still have other roads for thatAnd so they make LRT their baseline choice? Completely taking over the road's roght of way only for the LRT's use? And use ground level electric transmission method?And they're estimating fare of 10000-20000 Yen round trip for such LRT?Why they think making people access through LRT instead of their own cars can cut the peak of visitor there
A train station within Tokyo 23 wards
To me it's insane that Japan can have so many railway companies, my country only has 1
>>1585041Japan has a large population concentrated in small areas, and the government didn't nationalise all the train lines.
>>1585178They did, things like Tohoku Main Line were private before JNR absorbed them
>>1585186I am aware; there are still many private railway companies in major metro areas.
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201215_ho01_1.pdf JR East collaborate with KDDI to develop distributed satellite city, opening new distributed offices in different towns and ecplore turning some Shinkansen train cars to remote workplace with dedicated connection for remote meeting
335m? Why is the water there so deep
If this section could be completed in the JNR era, Yamagata Shinkansen probably wouldn't be needed as a Mini Shinkansen line?
>>1585958>If this section could be completed in the JNR era, Yamagata Shinkansen probably wouldn't be needed as a Mini Shinkansen line?I don't think so since this line doesn't make travel to Yamagata from Tokyo any faster.
>>1586070At the time, Yamagata's biggest complain was losing direct express train service to Tokyo. If this line was built, then direct service to Tokyo would have been possible through Tobu Railways even after the opening of Tohoku Shinkansen and the cessation of most express train service on the conventional Tohoku Main Line. The time needed might actually be a bit longer but they would be able to keep the same train service without building for the Mini Shinkansen
>If this line were built and achieved scheduled speed of over sixty kilometer per hour it would have been the quickest route from Tokyo to Takayama and appears to be the quickest route from Matsumoto to ToyamaIs this still something worth building in the modern time?
wait so the shinkansen has a metal bar that makes contact with the overhead wires for electricity? doesn't it get hot? don't the surfaces start to rub off?
>>1586611Read up on that here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph_(transport)
>>1586668>At sustained high speeds (above 300 kilometres per hour (190 mph)) friction can cause the contact strip to become red hot, which in turn can cause excessive arcing and eventual failurethe shinkansen goes at 320 km/h so this doesn't explain how it deal with the heating problem
>>1586716Well, you said "metal bar", so I was assuming you didn't even have a rough idea what you are talking about.Yes, it does use pantographs for power supply. Obviously ones designed for HSR.
>>1586748I didn't know what the contact surfaces were made out of but I still don't get how the HSR ones are designed to prevent overheating.
>>1586781I mean at 320kph you're moving a lot of air over it. If we can have air cooled engines that can go the same speed as HSR I think they can make a friction surface not overheat.
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20201218-00010014-norimono-bus_allUeno to Omiya section speed limit to be increased to 130km/h from 2021 March, shortening travel time by 1 minute>>1586829I don't think that's being used.
2021 Timetable revisions are out.TL;DR - Services cuts everywhereHokkaido:>>1583500East:https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/timetable/Central:https://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000040882.pdfWest:https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/2020/12/page_17103.htmlShikoku:https://www.jr-shikoku.co.jp/03_news/press/2020%2012%2018%2002.pdfKyushu:https://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/railway/dia/Are the JR East KiHa 40/47/48s kill?
>>1587089>Are the JR East KiHa 40/47/48s kill?Soon enough since Akita Branch is the only JR East branch left that still have KiHa 40s for active service
>>1585940That's where the Loch Ness Monster lives.
https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/75248Bad news for all "big depth underground" construction projects, especially Chuo ShinkansenIn Tokyo, when they're using tunnel boring machine to construct a "Big Depth Underground" road tunnel, the surface road collapsed.It have caused residents around the area to question the safety of such deep underground tunnel boring, and whether it really have "no effect to the surface" as advertised.With the deep underground tunnel boring of Chuo Shinkansen to start within Tokyo in the next year, similar concern could be raised by residents along the route.https://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/75237For the road tunnel project incident, it have been suspended for now pending further investigation, and as it seems like there are other places with similar curst compositions, additional pre-boring works including surveying and strengthening will be necessary. No doubt it will take extra times and no doubt Chuo Shinkansen will also be affected
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/denshadego/syodai/To promote/commemorate the upcoming release of new Dencha de Go! game on Switch/PS4, they have now officially released the early version from 1997 for PS1 onto mobile website for free
>>1587253>Loch>In an oceandoubt.
What are the technical limitations preventing the Tohoku/Hokkaido Shinkansen from hitting 320 km/h across its whole length, including the Seikan Tunnel? Currently its:110 km/h to Omiya (130 km/h in March)275 km/h to Utsunomiya320 km/h to Morioka260 km/h to Aomori140 km/h through the Seikan Tunnel to HakodateHow much distance does the average 16-car E5 series need to hit 320, and what's the minimum curve radius? Is noise pollution another reason it's so slow up to Omiya? Etc.
>>1587517All the non-Seikan Tunnel are probably noise and infrastructure (the catenary needs to be able to withstand the friction) related, as far as Seikan Tunnel is concerned I doubt it'll ever be able to go higher than 260 km/h as long as they'll have to share the tunnel with freight trains
>>1587518> freight trainsWTF? I thought most freight was via truck in Japan. Especially after the 1967 Shinjuku explosion and the 59.2 timetable revision that heavily reduced freight service. Freight and passenger trains sharing infrastructure is common in the US and Canada but it surprises me that Japan has it too
>>1587089Found this in the Hachioji Branch Office press release. One Chuo-Ome through service will instead turn back at Tachikawa, how's that going to alleviate congestion? I'm not the best at reading Nippon moonrunes
>>1587533Anon, it's one of the longest tunnels in the world (it was the longest for a while) linking two islands. Any choice other than railway transport would be stupid.>>1587517>110 km/h to Omiya (130 km/h in March)>275 km/h to UtsunomiyaIf I recall correctly, they announced the increase to 300 with the arrival of the E8, replacing the E3. I assume that means this section speed is either rolling stock or capacity limited, not infrastructure limited.
>>1587533It's more economical for shared use on the longest strait or mountain range tunnels, a la Channel Tunnel and Gotthard or Ceneri Base Tunnel. Freight brings in revenue too. Not like there's any other choice though. Japan is going to face a labor shortage. Truck driver is the same.
>>1587437It's 10m deeper at its shallowest, reaching twice the depth.
>>1587604* The issue with Gaikan at Chofu between Chuo and Tomei Jct is groundwater near a river. It being parallel may also be a factor.
>>1587533Yes, most freight in Japan are handled through trucks instead, but there are no road tunneos between Honshu and Hokkaido, so their only options are trains or ferry.Also, for all the remaining freight services in Japan, freight trains do share track with passenger tracks, but unlike North America, they are freight trains using passenger train company track instead of reverse>>1587603The alternative os ferry transportation of all freight and let Shinkansen take up the entire tunnel. But the econonic damage to Hokkaodo have been deemed too great for such act to he even worth considering>>1587604Would still vulnerable to the same mechanism>>1587534It might actually be the same train afterall but just people are being required to deboard from the trainAccording to my understanding,First of all, some of those who make through journey from Tokyo into Ome area might take other trains instead, thus freeing up space for Tachikawa-originating passengersSecond, even if some still take the same trains, they will still be forced to deboard and let others waiting at the platform to board first, making seats available to passengers waiting at the station
Densha de GO!! Hashirou Yamanote-sen! comes to Switch on March 18th:https://twitter.com/sqexdenshadego/status/1340877154699988992
Why is 上野駅 not located inside 上野国, and have a different reading?
>>1588315There are lots of fucking Ueno-s in Japan. Joumou is present at Joumou Kougen Station on Jouetsu Shinkansen. Also related are Ryoumou Line and Toujou Line. Did you read up on Kamitsukeno?
>>1588553Well it's to be expected that stations and such in that area are named after the local nation name.But question is what relationship it have with the Ueno in Tokyo?
上野: Ueno上野国: Kouzuke no kuni
>>1587608>It might actually be the same train afterall but just people are being required to deboard from the trainWouldn't that make the platforms in Tachikawa even more crowded?Having another train waiting on the opposite track on the same platform before the one from Tokyo arrives at 18:13 would be more effective than emptying it onto the already crowded platform.
From the proposed March schedule revision with more E7 sets entering service in Joetsu Shinkansen (which was delayed due to losses from flood in Fall 2019) the E4 Series EMU will officially retire from services in Fall 2021.Some in-train service changes:1. Prices for Gran Class services for Hayate and Yamabiko, which have no light snack + drink services will be reduced by 2,090 Yen2. Certain Kagayaki and Hakataka services will no longer have in-train sales, more details will come when JR East releases the March schedule revision3. All Inaho and Kaiji services will no longer have in-train saleshttps://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201218_ho04.pdf
>>1588689They should at least put vending machines back in trains without snack services.
>>1588637>Japanese location names with ノ thrown in without it showing up in the spelling二宮, 三宮, 下関, ...Meanwhile you have 一ノ関.Why?
>>1588613None, end of story. >>1588924This is a general Japanese language question. Surely you are also going to ask Yamate vs Yamanote soon. >一ノ関It's in 一関.
>>1588931>Yamate vs Yamanote* Which is more etymology than grammar
>>1588931>It's in 一関.Well, since this is /jrg/, I was obviously talking about pic related.Yeah, I should have mentioned the 山手線.
>>1588933It's in 一関市.
>>1588924>三宮JR is 三ノ宮駅.
>>1588933The form of writing of "Yamanote" line actually switched a few time over the past century iirc
What's up with the 号 I see at the end of named train/bus services? ときわ号, ニューブリーズ号, マロニエ号, etc.>>1587533>>1587608My understanding is Hokkaido, has 25% of Japan's arable land but had no way of sending agricultural products to Honshu except via boat, until the Seikan Tunnel was built. And it's not like the Kanmon Strait between Shimonoseki and Fukuoka which is narrow enough that trucks can cross it no problem. The Tsugaru Strait is 20 kilometers wide at its narrowest, as in you can't even see Honshu from Hakodate because it's hidden behind the Earth's curvature.A bit o/t but I've been researching the story of what a boondoggle the Seikan Tunnel was.In 1954, Typhoon Marie sank the Toya Maru (JNR ferry) killing 1,100+ souls so there was motivation to build a tunnel, but apparently the soil was a nightmare and I suppose the tunnel got caught up in the Kakuei Tanaka-esque cost overruns that defined infrastucture megaprojects in the Showa era. I wonder how much tunnel debt JRTT is shouldering, and how long it'll take to pay off.
>>1588140Do you think there will ever be another full Densha de Go game like Final? I'd love to play a game where I get to drive N'EX, Azusa, JR West Urban Network, etc., something to scratch the itch that BVE6, Railsim2 and VRM simply don't. The UE4 engine looks stunning.
>>1589165>What's up with the 号 I see at the end of named train/bus services? ときわ号, ニューブリーズ号, マロニエ号, etc.It's just Japanese. Like Titanic is タイタニック号
There's a signboard at Akabane (platform 3 and 4) that still has depictions of the 115 and 211 series. It designates "10両最後部" whatever tf that means.
>>1589169> It's just Japanese. Like Titanic is タイタニック号But that's the name of a ship, and even then I thought vessels end in 丸.I turned /jrg/ into /djt/ and I feel great shame, 切腹するしかないね。
>>1589170That just means you are at the end of a 10-car train set
>>1589174Do any other stations have this, or is it just Akabane? Suburban lines from Ueno are a mix of 10/15 car sets right?
>>1589173Maru is just a common part of the name. Meanwhile 号 here is a word used together with the name instead.vessels or vehicles it appears to be same to me. Even aircraft use 号 when they're given individual name. I think Japanese language just isn't really used to apply a noun to a vessel or vehicle and call them using such name directly, hence the appendix of 号
>>1589176Most stations don't since they usually have door / car number indicators on the floor of the platform or overhead like that signboard, and most suburban lines from Ueno are 10+5 cars now
>>1589165It's similar to "The". This is a common feature in East Asian language. >>1589173That's a proper name suffix. Maersk uses "Maersk" suffix. Evergreen uses "Ever" prefix
>>1589166>Do you think there will ever be another full Densha de Go game like Final?I don't know, but I'd be there Day 1 importing the first print edition with controller.>>1589173*数独せざるを得ないね
>>1589166I'd import a console solely for the purpose of playing a Densha de Go Final-tier game with current graphics.
「南海電鉄、Visaカードで入場可能に=訪日客向け | 乗りものニュース」:https://trafficnews.jp/post/103276Nankai will also support Visa payment
https://trafficnews.jp/post/103139Tokyu named the station on iys through connection line to Shotetsu as 新綱島駅https://trafficnews.jp/post/103184Tokyu partnered with a hotel to offer simulator room for people to simulate driving Tokyu trains in ithttps://trafficnews.jp/post/103181JR East trying the concept pf "Shinkansen office, which come with empty middle seat for no extra cost, and users are allowed to chat over electronic devices for like telemeeting in the train car.
https://www.asahi.com/amp/articles/ASNDV6R6FNDVUTIL01W.htmlOedo line need to cut their schedule by 30% as 15 of their drivers have been confirmed infected with Wuhan coronavirus and another 6 have been identified as close contact, thus have to be quarantined and cannot drive the train.
>>1589753Also dumb QR Code
>>1589758>The whole "Shinkansen Office" businessI wonder if their little experiment with the currently surplus E259 EMUs stationing in the temporary platform in Ryougoku Station back in November actually yielded positive results for this to happenhttps://www.jreast.co.jp/chiba/news/pdf/pre2011_nextere.pdf
https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/397807?display=bShizuoka government found to made up fake professional opinion against what the professionals have spoken and then sent those fake opinions to national government
https://www.sankei.com/economy/news/201230/ecn2012300016-n1.htmlJR East may introduce dedicated cargo-car on Shinkansen.
>>1591243>JR East may introduce dedicated cargo-car on Shinkansen.Didn't such an attempt fail last century?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKHqLWzWrgAGranted, that was probably JR Central or JR West.
>>1591243>>1591280This is different since they're converting one car in a single train set to carry cargo not an entire Shinkansen dedicated to carrying freight.
>>1591280Won't say it itself failed. Freight Shinkansen is dwarfed by trucks, and long standing ships. Conventional-speed lines also have capacity released for freight. JNR fucked up itself. Together with sleeper Shinkansen, they are made obsolete by road and aviation, as well as incompatible with higher speeds and frequency of Nozomi. >>1591361Although I prefer to keep it mixed traffic with freight perhaps as far as conventional-speed sleeper trains in the future, Seikan Tunnel matters to them, even if it's short. I can see them willing to explorer entire dedicated trainset in the future if this succeeds and grows. In the meantime, I would be interested in passenger-freight convertible combi-cars
https://trafficnews.jp/post/103297In the March schedule update, Sunrise's departure schedule slot at Tokyo station have been used up by another train.>>1591469This cannot solve the Seikan issue since the weight and maximum axial load of Shinkansen vehicle as well as the cost mean it is only optimized to carry parcels instead of agricultural products that are the main cargo being shipped through Seikan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWaHRYWK4kTraffic News' editor, A-Train development company manager, and Kami come together to talk about the history of Keikyu with urban development along its line and tried a bit the upcoming A-Train game on Switch
Just saw a conspiracy book on Amazon claim that JR Central actually didn't have enough technology to build a Maglev line, citing the lack of toilet in L0 series train, and the existence of poles along the track, claim JR Central will ultimately open the line as a conventional Shinkansen.
>>1591783>前触れもなく突如廃止になるのは、考えづらいところです。Well, let's hope so.
>>1592064>JR central doesn't have the technology that already exists
Responding to Taisetsu Liner bus competition, JR Hokkaido and Hokkaido Airports Co Ltd rumored to be exploring a Asahikawa -- New Chitose Airport stations Ltd Exp on Muroran Main Line section via Oiwake Station, in relation to Asahikawa Airport reconstructions and New Chitose Airport Station through line plans. Previously, Super Kamui and earlier White Arrow serves this route via Sapporo Station. https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f5848b12488fa4532ec674f3ae2cde350e7a7f39https://tabiris.com/archives/shinchitose-asahikawa/
「静岡県知事が首相に書簡 リニア問題で“工事凍結”直訴(産経新聞) - Yahoo!ニュース」:https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9d10c910a1e66eaff0373ea235b700936d2f8d36Shizuoka governor write a mail directly to Japanese prime mibister, asking him tp freeze the Linear construction, in addition to domestic production of corona vaccine as well as criticizing the Japanese government or excluding some pro-China acadenics with stances against Japanese government from the officially sponsored academic meeting
>>1593036Funny thing the airport authority is framing it as helping the Asahikawa airport when it can only hurt it>>1592583The book:https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/479422480X/An article on the book:https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/7adb07d26b9bea43e1d23faef03b2209d91089bc
https://www.asahi.com/amp/articles/ASN1R4V2VN15UHBI007.htmlKorean government and civil groups say railways built in Japanese colonization era are Remain of Japanese Imperialism, Scar of Colobization Control, and that they're happy to remove them by building a new, alternative high speed line to replace the old conventional line
https://tabiris.com/archives/tohoku201805/So the speed up from 110km/h to 130km/h south of Omiya was supposed to save two minutes time for Shinkansen, but as this time they're only improving the section in Saitama prefecture and didn't touch the section within Tokyo metropolis, it only saved 1 minutes
>>1594155In reference to >>1587517: The high-speed curve radius is 4000m. Between Tokyo and Omiya it's 600-800m. This portion was supposed to be underground but for some reason they switched to above ground. Which led to protests from landowners along the route, joined by the around the Japanese New Left and the anti-Narita Airport movement.Anyone know why JNR's original plan to underground the Tokyo~Omiya portion flopped?
>>1594164https://twitter.com/FanTaiyo/status/859412429410676737While curve radius is also a problem, it's apparently part of the agreement to build the segment with tight curve in order to ensure the low speed limit into the future
A E217 EMU set (Y44) is seen being transported from the Kamakura Yard to assumed to be Nagano General Yard, which signifies the slow phasing out of the EMU for the Yokosuka-Sobu Line. I wonder how will the rumours of KCI buying the old E217 will pan outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH-X1SCQL5I>>1594164It was initially planned for being in underground, but they realized it wasn't possible due to geological reasons so they were forced to change it to being a corridor. That in turn actually caused quite a bit of unrest for the residents along the route throughout the 70s to early 80s and the Saikyo Line was actually one of the results from those unrests.
>>1594164>Anyone know why JNR's original plan to underground the Tokyo~Omiya portion flopped?Wikipedia: その後、当該区間において顕著な地盤の沈下・隆起がみられることを理由として、1973年(昭和48年)3月10日に地下区間を高架方式とする計画変更が発表される
>>1593063How can he be stopped?
https://trafficnews.jp/post/103515Operation of DMV in Shikoku delayed by a bit
https://trafficnews.jp/post/103295Among plans to vitalize the Sapporo Okadama Airport, there's a part that suggest giving it a new nickname, and one of the proposal is Sapporo Hatsune Miku Airport
>>1594507>Sapporo Hatsune Miku Airport>Sapporo Clock Tower AirportCringe. Why do Japs do this
Put up enother DDGFINAL guide - 201 Series, driving Shinjuku to Mitaka. Please enjoy.https://youtu.be/Ttb6taiE18Y
>>1594768Nice video.Going along with the 発車メロ using the brakes is a nice touch.
>>1594530>Clock TowerWhile I didn't know Crypton is headquartered at Sapporo, this is not much better than Sannomiya Hanadokei-mae Station
>>1594865* Worth mentioning it's dubbed one of the 3 disappointments in Japan. It looks overblown beforehand only. Harimaya-bashi in Kochi attests to the sadness of canals lost in history from land reclamation.
>>1594173> That in turn actually caused quite a bit of unrest for the residents along the route throughout the 70s to early 80s and the Saikyo Line was actually one of the results from those unrests.JNR also built the New Shuttle and capped Tohoku Shinkansen speeds at 110 km/h (to limit noise) to placate residents along the route.JR East has a 40% stake in New Shuttle, Saitama Prefecture has a 35% stake, and the rest is held by Tobu, Resona Bank, the municipalities along the line, etc. It's also one of the few third-sector railways in Japan to be profitable.
JR Central decides to cancal all seasonal Tokaido Shinkansen services starting from January 18th onwards amid Emergency Orders and recent surge of staff being infected with COVID-19https://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000040909.pdfA more detailed design for the new 315 Series EMU had been released by JR Centralhttps://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/94499d142ed746b9839d39ae49cc2066958b0b79>>1595270>JNR also built the New Shuttle and capped Tohoku Shinkansen speeds at 110 km/h (to limit noise) to placate residents along the route.Given how tight some of the curves are and there are quite a lot of them they really couldn't up the speed that much either. I wonder if JR East was able to up the speed to 130 km/h after doing extensive work to reduce noise
>>1595278>I wonder if JR East was able to up the speed to 130 km/hThey are upping the max speed to 130km/h between Ueno and Omiya this March.https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20201006_ho01.pdf
JR Central released an update to what the upcoming 315 Series commuter EMU would look like to the press.>>1595406I know that they are doing it, but I was wonder if they got the permission to increase the speed due to the assumed infrastructure work
>>1594530At least it's not another English-inspired name like 高輪ゲートウェイ.
>>1595850They did proposed names like Sapporo *City* Airport
>>1595870Well, it's a シティ="shitty" airport.The name would have fit.
>>1582312recently got back into model railroading, and have a 500 series shinkansen. I want more Japanese stuff. Can you guys post your favorite Japanese trains so i can get some inpiration?
>>1596111Sunrise Seto/Izumo - the last remaining traditional sleeper trains in Japan.
>>1595870>>1595951Hope there won't be any arguments with the local sushi and wok restaurants.
Japan's 1st urban cableway, Yokohama Air Cabin between Sakuragi-chou Station and Shinkou (Red Brick Warehouse, Cup Noodles Museum, etc) along Kisha-michi (former railway) across the Canal Park, to open in April. Also Kobe City to budget study for a larger system connecting Shinkou (another "new port" between Sannomiya and Port Island with ferry and cruise terminal), Meriken Park (south of Minato-Motomachi Station), and Harborland (Kobe Station)
>>1596549No stop inbetween for the Yokohama system?
>>1596745Nope. It's really short anyway (630m).
JR East will cease all in-train sales including Gran Class services (Gran Class seats without food continue as normal though) until further noticehttps://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20210113_ho02.pdf
>>1597024What do "Gran Class" cars get called anyway?ロ like the Green Cars, or do they get an イ?
>>1596745Detachable gondola stations and stopping are still more complex among cableways. You want to minimize stops, or co-locate them at turning stations, etc.
>>1597051If JR East ever introduce Gran Class in non-Shinkansen services those cars will probably get イ instead of ロ (Green Car) just like the 87 Series DMU used for Twilight Express Mizukaze
Did 113/115 series get green cars from the start in Tokyo? Also why did all the suburban lines switch from 11+4 formations to 10+5...except the Yokosuka Line?
>>1597477>why did all the suburban lines switch from 11+4 formations to 10+5...except the Yokosuka Line?There's rumours that they'll switch it over from 11+4 to 5+10 once all the E217s get phased out, in order to make the Green cars line up in the same spot as E231/233s
>>1597477>Did 113/115 series get Green Cars from the start in Tokyo?The 113s did have single deck Green Cars since the 60s and there were plans for the 115s to have Green Cars but that never materialized
>>1597726When did the first double-decker green cars arrive?
>>1597577Doesn't explain why Yokosuka didn't give a fuck and stayed with 11+4.
Question: When JR Hokkaido and Hokkaido Airport management company propose having direct service between Asahikawa and New Chitose Airport, are they having this in mind?https://news.mynavi.jp/article/railwaynews-120/
>>1597878According to JP Wikipedia, double-decker Green Cars first came out in 1989 with the SaRo 124/125 (for 113 Series) and SaRo 212/213 (for 211 Series), which increased the seating capacity from 60 to 90>>1597886Seems like a lot of work since they'll have to make the infrastructure safe for DMUs
>>1598016> The New Xhitose Airport station have used by DMU express trains in the past and is still used by DMU temporary trains nowadays as per the article
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20210117-00010002-norimono-bus_allComment say the proposed freight transportation over Shinkansen nowadays appears to be closer to baggage transporting trains in the past than actually freighthttps://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e3e8c8c71d18248f174a9f585fc98135ce3883d0/images/000Apparently idea for a second Seikan tunnel have been converging, it's suggested to be a double decked tunnel, with road on top and rail at bottom, but the rail will only be single tracked and the road will only allow autonomous vehicles with those that aren't autonomous to be transported over dedicated carrier truck. The author of this artocle question the capacoty of single tracked freight railroad and the use of yet to mature technology
>>1598189>nowadays appears to be closer to baggage transporting trains in the past than actually freightThey are different plans. http://kakuyodo.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2020/12/post-82da04.html
>>1598208I won't say "they're a different plan" given the information as the information also pointed out different versions of cargo services being possible on Shinkansen and the advantage and disadvantage of each of them.And are we sure that blog's title isn't about https://ingsoc.fandom.com/wiki/Oceania ?
>>1598221It's one of Yokohama baseball team's former name. The author's Twitter and old website shows this. The title and the center paragraph "対し「令和の貨物新幹線」は、現在のところ貨物列車を運行するのではなく、旅客列車に荷物輸送の機能を付加する方向性で、「昭和の貨物新幹線」とは異なります。そのため大掛かりな貨物駅は不要かもしれませんが、自分で乗降してくれない荷物をどうするかは、どうしても考えねばならない部分です。" aren't accurate. I don't see materials about palletized cargo on Tokaido Shinkansen, or actually implementing containerized cargo on Touhoku Shinkansen not favored according to that source, being discussed
>>1598321You probably missed the newshttps://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/388599> 新幹線による荷物輸送を事業として軌道に乗せるには、専用車両の開発が欠かせない。今回の取材で、JR東日本が荷物輸送の専用車両についても研究を進めていることがわかった。> 内藤課長は「我々はあくまでも旅客会社。全車両を荷物専用車両にすることはありえない」と否定的だが、「例えば、7両を旅客用、3両を荷物専用とする発想はある。専用車両の勉強はすでに始めている」と話す。> 詳細は明らかでないが、荷物をパレット(荷役台)に載せる「パレット式専用車両」を検討しているようだ。
>>1598323What are you trying to point out? This is parcelized, not containerized.
>>1598582>This is parcelized, not containerized.It make absolutely zero difference on the topic we are discussing
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20201204-03607805-saga-l41Saga governor claim FGT is still among the choice for Nagasaki Shinkansen, say it was abandoned due to maintenance cost and time, but Saga governor think that it would still be cheaper than building a new full shinkansen line across Saga
>>1598601*Development cost and time
JR East has announced that it'll build two prototype trains for maintenance workGV-E197: Diesel-Eletric cars for transporting ballast and transporting rail carsE493: DC/AC EMU for transporting rail cars. https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2020/20210119_ho01.pdf>>1598601>>1598679I wonder if he's legit delusional thinking that a FGT with such a large change in gauge would be cheaper to run in the long term
>>1598934Well, running FGT wouldn't cause Saga any further amount of money, while most other options will cost Saga a lot so it's definitely cheaper in long run for Saga. The question is what about other parties involved.And the Safga governor was comparing the development cost and time of a usable version of FGT Shinkansen with the construction cost and time of Full Shinkansen across Saga, it didn't mention operational cost, which I wrote in mistake in my previous post.Also, the problems Japan is now facing with the FGT iirc isn't the change of gauge being too large, but is instead about the Spanish system cannot be downsized to fit in Japan's narrow gauge system, and hence they need to develop their own alternative system which now proved to be have less reliability, and such lower reliability resulting in the necessity of more frequent checkup and more frequent component replacement, together with the higher cost of FGT trains as well as their heavier weight making the cost of operation much more than regular Shinkansen.And somehow, China now magically come up with a FGT train with mechanism similar to Spain's yet claim it'll be able to operate and change gauge between anything between 600mm to 1886mm, and can operate with speed up to 400km/h, which sound much more like magic than real technology but if they really can do this then as Toyo Keizai's article describe it'll be possible that we will see Chinese trains running in the Japanese system.