Post obscure vehicles.Pic Related is argentine Catita Imperial tram.
Interior of the tram
New York Railways’ one of a kind “Broadway Battleship”. Double decker streetcars were rare in the U.S.
>>1564237The Daddy longlegs, a railcar built to rise above the tide while the tracks were submerged, sitting on the sand
I think we all know the Schienenzeppelin (rail zeppelin), a pre-war German experimental propeller driven railcar.
What probably fewer of us know is the railplane by George Bennie, an experimental propeller driven sandwiched monorail with a short demonstration track built around the same time of 1930 near Glasgow.
Oh my god
The first series of trolleybuses in Barcelona were designed and built in record time during the post-war scarcity years, by rebuilding old buses from the early 20s into trolleybuses. They went into service in 1941 and were in service for a bit over 20 years until 1963.
One of a kind PCC knockoff built in Mexico City by the local tram company in 1953.
>>1564497>2000hp>direct mechanical drive>4 main engines>2 auxiliary engines>that shapeStrong contender for "most retarded concept for a locomotive ever" and I'm including propeller & jet turbine locos in that.
>>1564685In a couple of years they got the real deal with a fleet of Detroit PCCs less than a decade old. Detroit agreed to deliver them in like new condition painted in Mexico City livery and ended up losing money on the sale.
Clark Equipment Co. built the trucks for PCCs and also built one demonstration car for Brooklyn. Aluminum construction and standee windows. It’s fugly compared to the classic air-electric but it’s unique and survives today at the New York Trolley Museum in Kingston, NY.
Storage battery powered cab
>>1564971WTFhttps://www.lowtechmagazine.com/overview-of-early-electric-cars.htmlThe range of electrics was also demonstrated by setting hypermiling records - staged events, run at slow and constant speed over carefully selected roads using special tyres.Already in 1899, two American engineers covered 100 miles (160 km) on a single charge. In 1909, Emil Gruenfeldt of the Baker Motor Vehicle Company covered 160.8 miles (259 km) on a single charge in his Baker Electric Roadster (illustration on the left). Two years later, he beat his earlier mark by travelling 201.6 miles (324 km) without recharging the batteries.Data of French record runs name a range of 190.76 miles (307 km) as early as 1901, set at an average speed of 17 km/h by Louis Krieger, a record that stood until 1942. In 2009, the Tesla Roadster set a new hypermiling record for electric vehicles: 311 miles or 501 km on a single charge. This result was obtained at a speed of 55 km/h.
>>1564709I wondered how loud four V-12s plus two more I-6s would be. Found this, which I'm sure is muffled from the real soundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCG7gRbT45w
>>1565059Electric cars, as well as delivery trucks, were very popular in the early automotive age. They appealed to women, or doctors making house calls, when simply turning the vehicle on and going was more appealing than an arm breaking crank or a full time chauffeur on call. I don’t know much about the technology but it’s remarkable that storage batteries were deemed practical in that era and were considered a serious alternative to internal combustion.
Siemens 3-phase locomotive from 1903.Why, yes, it is unbelievably retarded.
Even more ridiculous 2-phase one from Italy from that era.>But how do railroad switches work?They don't.
>>1564321What's even the reasoning behind these? You need propellers or turbines to propel yourself in air or water because there's nothing else you can use. With a train you can always just directly apply the motor torque to the rails and lose a lot less energy.
>>1565072Probably not as loud as the utter shattering of the driveshaft in the bolt incident
>>1565151You mean 3-phase.Cca. 20-30 years later a similar version of this technology was implemented in Hungary, but that worked well.
>>1565151lmao you dumb schmuck there's two lines in Switzerland alone that use double overhead wires. It's for three-phase power, the third pole is the rails.
>>1565133Early ICE engines were finnicky as fuck, and required quite a bit of operating skill to work properly. Especially considering synchronized gearboxes hadn't been invented yet and shifting gear was quite a bit harder than in a modern car with a modern manual transmission. A contemporary electric car was definitely a better idea for certain amount of people, like you mentioned. ICE development took off like a rocket though, while batteries lagged behind, and soon, ICEs were the superior choice. Only now is battery technology kind of catching up to the possibilities offered by ICEs. That said, steam was also a serious contender in those early days of cars. Some amazing steam cars were designed in that era: quiet and fast.
>>1565505How does that work? I've worked with 3-phase high voltage and I shudder to think having one of the three phases accessible on the ground rather than safe up in the air.
>>1565551I don't know the details, Wikipedia says that the third pole is the grounding, so it runs through the rails. Does that make sense to you?I do know that with the Gornergratbahn there's no special precaution for walking over the tracks so it can't be dangerous.
>>1565549At some point gasoline-electric vehicles were a thing, I know this because these trolleybuses >>1564684 were easily converted because they were originally gasoline-electric, so they actually had electric motors. They just took out the combustion engines and added whatever transformer system was needed.
>>1565551Because all phases are potential free to the earth/ground in this case, other than modern grids.Eg. in the EU grid you have the 3 rotating field phases, 120° apart, with 400v potential in between.The potential of 230V to ground from each of these phases is because the star-point of the grid (N) is connected to gound/earth (PE). That way potentials can be detected easily and safety features like the RCD are possible. (detects a fault current running to earth that should not be there, eg you touching a life wire standing on the ground)>>1565559>third pole is the groundingDoesn't make sense to me. A 3-phase grid naturally does not have a ground.
>>1565159the train can be made lighter, well it kind of has to be given how little thrust is availableand no way in hell is it going to make it up a hill>dat smooth acceleration tho
>>1565159Back then a vague suspicion of "could be beneficial in some way" was reason enough to build a prototype. Maybe they had eliminating reliance on wheel friction in mind, I can see that being an argument.
>>1564684Why does nowhere but Britain have double deckers anymore?
>>1565957tunnels and bridges are too low
>>1565957Berlin has double decker buses
>>1565957>>1565959can we get a double decker vs articulated buses comparison going?double-deckers>more maneuverable>cheaper?>more seating spacearticulated>more doors>more space bc no stairs?
>>1565573>Doesn't make sense to me. A 3-phase grid naturally does not have a ground.Well no, the usual grounding is used as a third pole. That's the explanation. Apparently this doesn't suppose any danger. It's not extremely common, but there are like a half dozen systems using this more or less standard concept of two overhead wires plus rails for third pole.
>>1565966Lots of places in Europe have double-decker tourist buses so that can't really be a common issue.
>>1566032Goes around corners more easily than an articulated bus with the same number of seats (would probably already have to be double articulated), easier to reverse.
Funiculars aren’t super obscure but aren’t that common anymore. This one was a tourist attraction in the Hudson valley that ran until the 70s.
Saved this ages ago and forgot about it.Cessna apparently planned a family of 10-30 seat regional turboprop airliners back in the 80's but got cucked by economic depression and a spike in fuel prices.Pic related: extremely rare photograph of prototype commuter essentially a Citation fuselage with aft turbofans swapped with pusher props.
>>1564283or you could just not build your rails directly next to the water
>>1566470Or you could go be boring somewhere else, that looks like great fun.
>>1566470Running thru the water was the whole selling point.
>>1565957Come to Seattle (well, north of Seattle)
>>1565957Are you retarded?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-decker_bus#By_country
The Billerica & Bedford railroad was North America's first 2ft gauge railroad, located in Billerica, Massachusetts. It was partly inspired the success of Europe's 2ft gauge railways. After being completed in 1877, it ran for less than a year before going bankrupt. Shortly thereafter, the line was abandoned and the two locomotives and rolling stock were sold to other railroads.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billerica_and_Bedford_RailroadI'm posting this because I live right where this was built and am hoping to someday create a gauge 1 live steam model layout of their "Ariel" locomotive and the two passenger cars in my front yard, probably by kitbashing an Accucraft Ruby and some Jackson Sharp coach/combine kits.
>>1566765I've been up to Billerica before. Nice town.The railway is now a bike path or something, right?
>>1566771Yup. They tore up the tracks sometime around 2004.
>>1566771>>1566787Now I see why the framers hate the bikefags, it all makes sense
>>1566787The tracks were left there for 127 years?!
>>1566817My bad. After some quick research, it was the old Boston & Maine standard gauge tracks they tore up for the bike path.I'm an idiot because I personally saw those tracks before they pulled them up and they were way to big to be 2 foot gauge.
>>1566765http://wwfry.org/Anyone interested in New England 2’ gauge should check out this museum. They’re doing great work restoring one of Maine’s original two footers. I’ve never been but follow them on social media and hope to go some day.
>>1565072What a fucking unit
>>1566538I see them in Seattle occasionally. and on the sodo busway too.
Remember that time the Staten Island Ferry captain OD'd on heroin at the controls and crashed the 3000 ton ferry into a stone pier killing 11 passengers, one of which happened to be a 9/11 survivor?>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Staten_Island_Ferry_crash
>>1564244now there is something i haven't seen. seems a bit blasphemous putting an Isetta on 4 wheels, but i guess it makes sense to put it on rails, which i'm sure there was, uh, a good reason for?reminds me of this article i saw recently on crazy-modded Isettas: https://www.hagerty.com/media/lists/3-utterly-wild-bmw-isetta-engine-swaps/
>>1568445>seems a bit blasphemous putting an Isetta on 4 wheelsonly the UK models were three-wheelers because of some retarded tax-loophole.Everywhere else the Isetta had two rear-wheels, but close enough together to make do without differential.
>>1568403I was working in lower Manhattan and remember that well as I used to joyride on the free ferry all the time just to get out in the harbor. It was just one more crazy thing along with 9/11, the 2003 blackout where I was stuck in a train under the East River, and the plane landing in the Hudson, which I got close enough to touch after it drifted downstream and was tied to the seawall in Battery Park City.
>>1568403>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut4QRiniPWEWhat bothers me is why they didn't just have everyone disembark onto the maintenance pier they slammed into instead of limping the ship over to the ferry terminal which was damaged enough to potentially capsize.
The narrow gauge Rio Grande Southern in Colorado came up with the “Galloping Goose” during the 1930s to save the expense of a locomotive and full crew to haul passengers and mail. They originally had Pierce Arrow auto bodies but later were refitted with school bus bodies. Most of them survived and some are still operable in Colorado.
1902 Vickers armored railcar
>>1568403>be random New-Yorker>survive the worst act of mass murder in American history that effectively changed the political landscape of the west forever>die 2 years later when ferry driver OD's at controls and crashes the ship in the now forgotten accidentImagine being that person. What the fuck.
>>1572910How does this stop? It looks incredibly steep and I can't imagine the wheels generating enough friction against the wire for stopping them to stop the cart
>>1572928It doesn't. They fucking die.
>>1565538people still do this mostly retired boomershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8mhIdZoVow&ab_channel=PeterHoffman
>>1572928i presume it's cable hauled, i can't see how they'd get back up again otherwise
>i am forgotten
>>1572825>personal transit>is still a trainProbably the most based post in this thread.
>>1572964https://www.narcoa.org/This is another cool boomer hobby, taking a speeder or “putt putt” with your bros and riding some branch line or tourist railroad. You can pick one up for the price of a used car.
1930s Soviet sci-fi
>>1573005All illustrations from what people thought the world would look like by now are awesome and show how retarded humanity became.
>>1572884I want to believe
>>1573188I was think about it, someone mentioned having low pressure blimps and the same can be done for ship hulls.Low pressure hydrogen would give more buoyancy per volume than air.
>>1573005> the year is 2007> get onto magno-loop train> have to put all of your electronics into a faraday cage otherwise they get bricked.
>>1573364> the year is 2020> get onto a slow train with the same technology that existed near the 50's, dirty and full of niggers> have to put all of your electronics into discreet bag otherwise they get stolen.
>>1573232In airships the "hull" is way bigger than the rest of the aircraft so it could work, but ships don't have such a big difference. Still you can store hydrogen as an energy source depending if its energy density and the hull volume is enough, even using light pressurization.
>>1568824This looks like a Mad Max timeline that ends well.
>>1565946How hot did that get?
>>1573005>dat lowkey Lenin
I doubt Double Fairlie's are obscure, but they sure are neat
>>1568445Look again, there are six.
>>1573507Sovietpunk is best future
>>1573563I remember them at Mirabel Airport. It made travel to the place excruciatingly long. Since they had to load the passengers. Lower down. Drive to the plane. Rise up. Unload. It seemed faster to just walk to the plane imho.
>>1572825VGH... mid century america... they took this from us
>>1564321Hydraulic gearboxes weren't available for the amount of torque
>>1567036Fellow diesels we have to let in Electric locomotives or diesel society will not survive
>>1572993you can actually take a hovercraft between the Isle of Wright and mainland Britainaccording to wikipedia, it's the only regular civilian hovercraft service in the worldit's definitely something I'd like to do when covid ends
>>1574351Isle of Wright being stuck in the past how unusual
>>1574351>when cov*d endsyou need to stop thinking in these terms, there IS no end to this because there IS no v*rus. all that will happen is The Brave New Normal, and no earlier than March 2021 at that.https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/?fbclid=IwAR1M4W01f4GIg_hPE5wGiz59sm_h4Xv0dhBYvGlI7wtQ9AMyvJOIJ1J90Dg
>>1573489>This looks like a Mad Max timeline that ends well.In a post apocalyptic solarpunk utopian future, the Rio Grande Southern will be rebuilt and Galloping Geese will run on hemp biodiesel.
>>1573196It was an actual prototype, it balanced using large gyroscopes.
>>1570148god i hate japan.
A snow sweeper in New York. They used a giant rotating brush to clear the tracks. Note the lack of trolley wire as it runs off underground conduit power.
Airport bus made for direct plane boarding.
The road trains of Australia
>>1572884obvious balance problems
>>1574837the reason why trains use railed tracks instead of roads and tires is because controlling a road vehicle becomes harder the more trailers there arehow those are even practical is beyond me
>>1575509It helps when these are only used in the middle of nowhere, going from point A to point B with fuck all in between
>>1575509>how those are even practical is beyond meGreedy transport companies (not wanting to pay an extra driver), and powerful road lobby preventing spending on rail.
>>1572884That thing would be hellish to ride when drunk.>Another beer, my friend?>No thanks. I gotta take the Tilt-n-puke home.
Angel’s Flight funicular in 1950s Los Angeles. It was later rebuilt in a nearby location and is seen in a lot of TV and film
>>1573005benis in bagina :-D:DDDDD
A wrecked Pennsylvania Railroad GG-1 converted into a yard switcher/de-icer
>>1572928>>1572961And that's why they didn't put anything of value into it.
>>1564322lol that Milngavie claim to fame (besides being pronounced completely different to how its spelt) is this fucking bullshit
Behold! Speedboat with a car engine
>>1573562its a scam
Die Reißzug in Salzburg, Austria is the worlds oldest cable railway still in use. It was build some time before 1500.
>>1564237>>1564239We used to have an amazing transport system. Feels bad, man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bach_Super_TransportDouble deck biplane airliner concept from 1928. Killed by the great depression.
>>1564237i just like it bros
>>1565573>>1565992They use what is known as corner grounded delta, where the rails constitute a current carrying conductor operating at or near ground potential. This is why the rails are safe in an operating system.
The four-cylinder 4-2-2-0 James Toleman, designed by the English civil engineer F.C.Winby 1893. A machine in the books of history as one of the worst locomotives ever built (Perdue Uni had it in its collection as a example of bad engineering sadly scraped during WW2) . Duplex Drive, Oval Boiler, and Special Alloy Parts. It was displayed at the 1893 Columbian Exposition in Chicago and ended up running for short time on the C&NWR.
>>1578744got a goldwing vibe to it.....
>>1578215me too, they could have made the idea work. the name fits also
>>1574555and I thought the yard bulls were tough....cool pic.
>>1573005The early USSR seemed to have a lot of aspirational, creative people who wanted to build an actual socialist utopia that looked like this instead of a failing shithole it would eventually become. What happened?
>>1579874Imagine the mess when some kid runs out in front of that car
>>1566034The main downside is that they do a lot more damage to the road substructure than single deckers (due to the much higher axle loading).
>>1575509>how those are even practical is beyond meThey're only really practical when there's no rail route, and when there's enough traffic, it become worth it to run rails.The main route that used to be done with road trains was between the rail head at Alice Springs (about as middle of nowhere as you get on this earth) and Darwin up on the north coast. That's now a railway.
>>1578865>What happened?They got sidetracked into being a military superpower, and spent more on that than they could really afford.
>>1578840I was in Manitou Springs a couple of summers ago and the cig railway was shut down for repairs. They say it might reopen in a year or two.
>>1565957They're all over the place where I live. Tour buses, Megabus, etc.
>>1580534how many gallons to the mile does it get
The Lisbon has a line where the tram is like this one.
>>1581658Of course i forgot the picture.
>>1581660But they also have this one that stays horizontal.
Electrically heated steam switchers built by the Swiss during World War II because resources were scarce and they couldn't afford to build new Electric locomotives from scratch.
>>1581660With the slot between the rails, isn’t that a cable car with overhead for the electric lights? I’ve seen video of this line.
>>1578865they all went into a room in Lubyanka where the floor sloped towards one corner
>>1565957Vancouver Island has them
>>1581922No. First off, it's technically a funicular, as what we call "cable car" has a grip which can grab and let go of the cable, while the cable is always moving. In this case there's two cars fixed to a cable, and they are counterweights to each other. In this specific case there's an added element: the overhead wire forms an electric circuit that passes through both cars. So both cars have to give power for the mechanism to move (as they're fixed to the cable as a funicular railway). That way either car can stop the motion if there's an obstacle. And that's why there's two overhead wires. Simple yet brilliant.
>>1569853That's such a fantastic pic
I got a jetfoil - possibly the one in this picture - back to the UK with my family from Belgium one time in the 80s as we couldn't get a ferry for some reason. Crazy thing to be in, more like a plane than a boat. It had gone dark by the time we left and perhaps because it was so late we were pretty much the only passengers on it. Imagine how much money the ferry company must have lost on that crossing.
The Mount Adams incline in Cincinnati, a funicular that carried streetcars up and down the slope.
>>1582114We're reaching levels of kino that shouldn't even be possible
>>1582114I see you watch The Failure and Success of Great American Transit.
>>1582321No but I’ll look for that. I just got this from a Facebook trolley foamer page.
>>1573364I think that Soviet futurists didn't take personal electronics into account when scribbling that pic... I mean would anyone before 1980 believe that a microprocessor will power a powerful computing machine the size of a 10 ruble banknote?
Southern Pacific’s Sunset Limited being barged across the Mississippi River, decades before a bridge was built.
>>1582260That man's body will be ruined before he's 40
A Philadelphia trolley Railway Post Office. They sorted mail enroute and were common in American cities at one point. I have a postcard with a Brooklyn trolley RPO postmark.
>>1578865They got caught up in Murrika's arms race.
>>1564237Woodgas powered buses in rome, made during fascism for a attempt to curb oil importing
>>1584436Based and independentpilled.
SR Bulleid Leader Class. Prototype 0-6-0+0-6-0 articulated steam locomotive.
>>1577647>Thailand.jpgThey literally connect the propeller directly to the driveshaft on those, it's hobo as fuck.
>>1584538These things are so cursed
>>1584436Germany did also fuck around with a lot of wood gas powered vehicles during the war and after. Behold, a woodgas powered Panther! (It was a training vehicle)
>>1584538the finest product of oliver "i hate firemen" bulleid
>>1575876absolute bitch to ride on if you're over 5'10
>>1584887>Los Angeles>soonBoy were they off
>>1584857maybe you shouldn't have had so much rbgh milk as a child then, fucking beanpole freak
>>1584887Suspended monorails are legit massively better investments than existing subway and light rail systems, especially in areas that flood frequently.
>>1585138>manlet copeIf you're under 6 ft 8 you may as well give up, shorty
>>1585138Wait people are actually under 5’10 tall? I thought that was just a meme on here
>>1581918Why was electric steam not tried elsewhere?
>>1585156I think it’s very inefficient way to produce heat and I’m guessing they did it because they had a lot of hydro generated electricity.
The mast on the Empire State Building was intended as a zeppelin mooring port but was only used one and converted to a radio tower.
>>1585297this is what could have been
>>1585155It's like the dick size thing, people add a few inches on to their real height because they feel inadequate. I'd actually say 5'10 is more or less average height for an adult male, but it depends where you are in the world. maybe amerisharts are taller due to hormones in the water idk.anyway I have a 3 inch cock and I'm barely 5'10.5. but on the internet I could be 9 inches and 6 foot 2.
>>1585344Not really, it didn't work because of the strong winds. Not because they didn't want to.
Bronx monorail, 1911
>>1584673they had many woodburners
>>1585787most people don't remember that when the Nazi's went to the moon the spaceship was woodburner, too
>>1582114Another shot of the Mt. Adams incline in Cincinnati
Posting this very rare, by westerns standards, chopper.
>>1587215Just to prove it's not a toy. It really flew.
>>1587217>>1587215What's with those weird-ass engine cowlings?
>>1577701Pero si solo es un colectivo!
>>1587377It's by Kamov they do things their own way.In other newshttps://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/russian-helicopters-to-merge-mil-and-kamov-design-bureaus/134783.article
Gazelle, the smallest Standard Gauge locomotive
>>1564245if only we still had these
>>1582977i think i remember seeing this somewhere, like in one of those school candy gram things lmao
>>1587650The Broadway Battleship was a one-off double decker version of these low floor “hobbleskirt “ cars, so called because it was easier for fashionable Edwardian ladies to board. They were a very innovative design but couldn’t be converted to one man operation and were junked after a little more than a decade in service.
>>1585297Ok but how do you step out as a passenger
>>1587690what is this? a steam diesel engine?
>>1587714>>1587690It's a prototype gas turbine locomotive, apparently the "tender" bit of it carried kerosene. not sure why it's styled like a steam engine, when the earlier prototypes looked more like diesels.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_GT3https://youtu.be/Stgzn7yK8lM?t=10
>>1585156A decent steam locomotive from the 20s had an efficiency of around 10%. Those little old switchers probably less. It was an emergency solution during WWI. The swiss had been busy electrifiying their whole net for a while back then, largely because they had no coal on their own and all their neighbors had a habit of trying to kill each other every 30 years ago. That did just start a bit before they were done. Thanks to mountain-rivers, hydropower was a decently available power source. Alas, these switchers were still needed when the war happened, and newly built replacements could not be sourced at that point. Neither were all sidings electrified. So they turned them into hybrids. A little fire was kept alive in there, but when under wire a simple electric heater helped out to lower consumption.Overall that was a very very inefficient way of doing it, but one that they could improvise to make do. >>1587377They ran radial engines and had to keep them cool somehow. Guess this seemed like an easy solution.
>>1587700You don't. Port is probably a misleading word, you moor the ship there and land it at an airbase.
I don't know how obscure this is.
>>1587720I heard that it was styled like a steam engine to help reduce the fear of drivers and unions.
>>1585787The jew fears the woodburning vw thing
I was looking for a concept helicopter from the 1950's or 60's for a one man transport. I can't remember the name. However, i found this. The HZ-1 Aerocycle
>>1589745I think that might be it. It was a personal transport for the business man.
>>1575509They're practical because central Australia is nothing and there's few rail lines between regional communities built around resource extraction.
>>1589514imagine slipping on this
>>1589507Oy vey, the carbon emissions, goyim!!!!!!!!!!
>>1587700There would be an internal catwalk from the cabin to the nose, and the airship would lower a bridge to the mast
>>1590711Here's a photo of the British R-100 actually using it (not in NYC)
>>1586804Shame transit oddities like this are all pretty much gone.
>>1575547>>1574837imagine trying to overtake one of these fuckers
Sail rail cart thing in Rio Grande City, Brazil.Takes you down a very long jetty.I rode it when I was a kid, some 25 years ago.
Startup company hopes to build a supersonic bizjet.>https://aerionsupersonic.com/as2/Believe it or not they already have 20 firm orders. They've settled on their final configuration and hope to get their prototype flying by 2023.
French excursion rail car X 4200
>>1594603a thing of beauty.
>>1594341Biden should unironically ask Aerion to commission a bigger, 4-engine version as a supersonic presidential transport.
>>1573531I highly recommend the Ffestiniog railway. Welsh rarebit and beer over some of the best scenery I've ever seen, can't be bad
>>1594603Hnnnnng im gonna cum
For me, it's the Breitspurbahn
1964-65 New York World’s Fair monorail
>>1597389Give me the rundown on suspension railways.Could they actually be cheaper to build and operate than conventional subways and metros? Particularly in areas that flood frequently?
We need more jet-powered trains.
>>1597621Still waiting for that Atomic Super Chief
>>1564685Speaking of Mexico, TTC tried to convert a PPC with a door behind the driver for Mexico City to try and sell their old street cars to them. Nothing came of it.
>>1598696I'd like to rail them if you get my drift
>>1564971>she gets to ride in a safe warm cab while he braves the elements in a rigid seat which could kill him in any collisionWomen were clearly oppressed back then, thank goodness we gave in to them at every tantrum.