If I was a billionaire and I wanted to buy a super-sonic jet, just for fun, what should I buy?
A little more precious time before the guillotine.
su-27 in ukrainian livery
>>1513067A billion isn't going to get you supersonic afaik
Not the fastest but probably the best balance of performance to cost/cost of operating. It had a heavy emphasis on dogfighting ability in development so it would be very fun.
>>1513085List prices on supersonic jets that aren't bleeding edge shit are in the tens of millions, presuming it's legal to do>>1513093I'd got the F-16 too if I was OP
>>1513132>List prices on supersonic jets that aren't bleeding edge shit are in the tens of millions, presuming it's legal to doPurchase price has nothing to do with it
Its impossible to get through ITAR.The DOD, in its brutal and cold wisdom, has (correctly) figured out that money is not something they really care about. Jeff Bezos himself could be trying to liquidate his entire fortune into a factory fresh F-16 and they'd tell him no. There is absolutely no way to do it. Even buying from a foreign military isn't possible.
>>1513143Well, there is spacex and whatnot. But your point is well taken. Supersonic recreational aircraft are not a thing.
>>1513143If you're in the USA, or you're after a US-built/designed jet, yes either the DOD or ITAR pressures would stop you. It's not clear what would limit a Saudi prince from buying his own Su-27.
>>1513141Yes it does, if you want to purchase one
>>1513067>https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/24850533/1959-mcdonnell-douglas-f4h-1fHere's an F-4 Phantom that will go mach 2+
>>1513143ITAR only prevents export of anything from America. SAAB would probably sell you a gripen if you wanted one.
>>1513143There are quite a few privately owned fighter jets in the US. Paul Allen owns and flies a Mig29 for fun. Someone in Florida owns and flies a F-16. I know some guy in Burlington Vt owns and flies a Mig15 around. There are 2 privately owned SU-27s in the US (although most people suspect they were bought by a front company and are used by the USAF at Groom Lake for testing/analysis).
This guy's company just bought 46 Australian F-16s and he privately owns a Mig Fulcrum
>>1513260these companies provide testing and training for the DOD, they are contractors. approved parties under ITAR.>>1513259well Paul Allen is dead so doesn't do much of anything anymore. these are de-militarized so yes, you can own them but they lack a lot of capabilities of militarized aircraft.
>>1513339ITAR doesn't have much to do with it. If he can start a company and buy and operate them, anyone else with enough money could do the same>these are de-militarizedNo shit???????
>>1513067german 104 starfighterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JimYi8Fgo4s
>>1513067Go with Lightninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrqsDdY4A6URelatively cheap supported and damn good fun.
>>1513365That Lightning crashed and the pilot died because his ejection seat malfunctioned (canopy didn't jetison).
>>1513348The rules for those contractors are so onerous it hardly qualifies as private ownership.
>>1513419you made a retarded bullshit claim and were exposedjust stop posting
>>1513259There was a guy at my dad's hangar who had two mig 29s
>>1513259>I know some guy in Burlington Vt owns and flies a Mig15 around.
>>1513067Get a SAAB JAS-39 Gripen.
Just build your own starfighter with help of your grandpa and his boomer pilot buddies.
Add another vote for an F-104.
>>1513207I was about to link exactly that airplane, I daydream about owning it all the time. There's a better listing on the actual dealer's site: https://www.platinumfighters.com/phantom2
>>1514017>"only" 3M burgerbuxI honestly thought that they would be more expensive.How much fuel would one of them eat every hour tho?
>>1514054It's apparently "80-85% restored" so that probably accounts for some of the "low" price. Fuel would be bad but I think maintenance would be the real issue, the best number I can find is 75 hours of maintenance per flight hour, and finding qualified crew would be pretty hard too. I also have to wonder how the fuck you'd get checked out on the thing and what other ratings you'd need, and I think you'd have to go do a bunch of training in an L-39 or whatever's more accessible before flying the F-4 because you'd probably kill yourself trying to fly the thing if you weren't experienced in military jets.
>>1514060They're normally considered "experimental." At least that's how L-39s and other jet powered war birds are treated.
>>1514054filling the F-4's 1,994 gallon internal tank with Jet-A @ $US 4..27 will cost 8,514.38; more if you have external drop tanks. Combat range is listed at 370 nmi while ferry range is 1,457 nmi. >>1514060Ya the three engines awaiting overhaul will coat a pretty penny.Otherwise MiGs popup for sale now and then.>https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a25836654/for-sale-one-mig-29-fighter-jet/>https://www.9news.com.au/world/mig17pf-for-sale-by-former-us-navy-officer-who-restored-soviet-jet-fighter/1b833834-f6fe-4d87-9238-5e2ca1116aa0This old MiG-17 costs $3,000 an hour in fuel
>>1514062From what I can find, foreign warbirds are registered as experimental, but American ones aren't and the F-4 is a type rating perfect storm considering it's turbine, multi-engine, several times the 12.5klb limit, and a very high performance aircraft. Apparently the Collings Foundation has an F-4 that they do rides with, and I see that they do type ratings for Me.262s, so maybe they could help at least point you in the right direction if not do the F-4 training themselves, it'd be outrageously expensive though considering a 40 minute ride in their F-4 costs 15k.
>>1513067You could probably get a used t-38 talon rather cheaply. After that there are probably f-104´s, mig 21´s and mirage V´s available for a decent price overseas.
>>1514368>You could probably get a used t-38 talon rather cheaplyGood idea anon. Cheap, basically demilitarized, produced in large numbers over a long time period, parts are easy to come by, and the military is phasing them out so used units will be on the market. Still supersonic and very maneuverable. Not a true jet fighter but it would be close enough for me
>>1514044op said for funnot for suicide
>>1513067>unit cost: $34M>cruising speed: mach 3.2maintenance would destroy your budget but blackbird would be coolest pick
>>1514531>hard to fly>needs mid-flight refuelling>it flies so high you probably won't even feel the speed>as agile as the average obese americanit's cool because of the tech, the specs and the looks, but it would actually be one of the worst picks
Northrup T-38 TalonThey made 1100 since the 60s and they're still in use with several military services around the world. Now the pickle is finding airspace where your allowed to go supersonic. In north america, that means international airspace over the oceans. As the FAA and USAF will send some nasty people to your home. If you did it over land.
>>1514531>unit cost: $34MAround 260 million today when adjusted for inflation. Running costs per flight hour would be in around 185k. Not to mention minor problem of requiring several specially modified tankers for any long range flights.
>>151453130% of Blackbirds crashed because it was so dangerous to fly. You'd never be able to buy one or have one made though, I'd guess everything is still top secret with it. Max alt and speed is still classified.
>>1514610Also goes to show you what a crock of shit official inflation is, it would cost billions to have one manufactured today.
>>1514611As if you're going to know the trust cost of a plane like that
>>1513067A-10. Hands down the best plane I’ve ever had the chance to simulate. A real one would be so much fun.
>>1513260>1513082What line of work?
>>1514044Hard pass. I want it for the demilitarized tech.
>>1514531I can’t afford to weld it shut every two minutes.
>>1514609And the ridiculous fuel additives they need to use
The selection is rather wide provided you aren't a poorfag, but you will need to reserve significant time for flight training. Some people buy a L-39 and instruct in it before moving on to the Mig-21 for example. I'd probably buy a T-38.
>>1513073Is this before or after Stalin purges you and your faggot revolutionaries?
>>1513067get a MiG-25, and an oilfield to fuel it
>>1514904I realize that you flyovers think "ed-ju-ma-kay-shum" is satanic libtard brainwashing, but Stalin has been dead for a long time now.
>>1514907Confirmed as Stalin
>>1514907>flyovers think "ed-ju-ma-kay-shum" is satanic libtard brainwashingI used to think this was hyperbole, until I read the comments section on fox news articles
>>1514947Case in point.
>>1514947> that bulgekek
>>1514610>Max alt and speed is still classifiedThe only thing that kept the SR-71 from going into space was the fear of losing it, with Russia/aliens attempting to grab it the moment that happenedSource: Mad Magazine :^)
>>1514956>WE NEED MORE CHEAP LABOR FOR MR INVESTSTEIN>>1514965Based
>>1514968This isn't a joke, unidentified object sightings in Asia were at their peak back when it was being tested in Okinawa, the SR-71 was enough to get humanity noticed and evaluated. I'm 99% certain my dad "passed-on" something that was bestowed to him when I was conceived, along with all the other airmen who randomly forgot one day of their life there, and this is something a lot of Lockheed kids I've hit-up are certain of too. Each of us have random hovering toys/furniture stories from back when we were growing-up, aliens? Or something we did unintentionally?That, or all the airmen were getting the greatest crossfades of their life from tropical weed and smuggled Coors, and radiation mutated their sperm to turn us into spergs, who knows, all I know is that I get goosebumps, feel a happy cosmic dread, and want to absolutely lead Earth into a space conquest whenever I read shit or look at the Blackbird
>>1514610>You'd never be able to buy one or have one made thoughYou might be surprised.
>>1514952I want this framed in my living room
>>1514974Why the fuck would aliens give a shit about a toy like the SR-71? Stellar escape velocity is 26 miles per SECOND, or 93,600 miles per hour. Presumably this speed is trivial to achieve for a species that can kick around the cosmos with convenience, and you think they're going to give one billionth of a fuck about an atmospheric vehicle that can't even make it to the moon?
>>1514981>Why the fuck would aliens give a shit about a toy like the SR-71?For something from the 60's, it'd be like watching an ant farm on and off, and then when you come back to look after getting bored for a few days, the ants have turned the plastic farm into a functional dredgerI subscribe to the Mass Effect theory that humans are one of the most interesting things to spawn in this section of the galaxy, and our superiority is causing controversy
>>1514988When the fuck was the last time YOU watched an ant farm?
>>1514983ha, just noticed that
>>1514989Approx. two years ago, carpenter ants are cool
>>1513073leftoids can't run a shantytown for a couple weeks without imploding, and that's with the full cooperation of the local government. how fucking delusional are you to think you'll defeat western militaries, right-wing deathsquads, militias, armed citizens, etc., in open combat?
>>1515191You can just say "capital".
>>1513152no it doesnt, because they wont sell you one.
Qaherso stealth no one has ever seen it fly
>>1515409>only 461 hoursFor $4 million that is a fucking steal. Holy shit.
>>1515380>so stealth no one has ever seen it flyNot with those intakes it won't.
>>1514995Did you check on them?They might have gone through nuclear war already
>>1515212if right wingers did 1/10th of what leftoids are getting away with due to the overt support of the media/finance/levels of government we'd been fucking slaughtered in the street by the glowies. because we actually pose an existential threat to the liberal world order. old school lefties have these delusional 19th century conceptions of how things work, capital is on your side.>>1515463go join your comrades in catalonia l*ftoid
>>1516181Fuck 5th gen.
>>1515839That’s some "interesting" (read: retarded) delusion you’ve got there, but it’s an objective fact that rightards are literal golems for capital. Even your beloved second amendment freedumbs are designed to protect the wealthy elites from the common people. Every rightard "nationalist" leader of note (Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, etc.) is whore for global capital and Israel, and your "fascism" is just capitalism when they decide to drop the social liberalism.
>>1516189>Every rightard "nationalist" leader of note>proceeds to list a bunch of liberals that lean towards civic nationalismleftoids won't understand what the right is until it's lining them up against a wall. third positionism is not 'capitalism in decay' as is the common half-wit understandingevery single institution from academia to finance to every corporation to the media to the militaries and governments you pretend you oppose is overtly in support of the progressive-leftist status quo.
>>1516252That’s "cute" (read: autistic) headcanon, but the fact is that the right-wingers have always been golems for capital. Even Shitler had to slob all over the knobs of Krupp & the like before he purged half of his party at their behest.
>>1516253nice cope tranny, now go lick some boots at your local government-approved BLM riot, freshly acquired from the generous one billion donation from Bank of America, before you go home and dilate
>>1516252>progressive status quothat's an oxymoron
>>1516258Not an argument, try again.
>>1516259Socialism is when Starbucks does gay rainbow lattes. The more gay rainbow lattes they do, the more socialist it is.
>>1516253>>1516258Lads the joke is that the contemporary American ""right"" AND ""left"" are both working for capital. Capital has simply expanded so far in the last ~fifty+ years that literally everything is in it's best interest.
>>1513238ITAR also gets involved when US components get used in a foreign design, like with avionics or engines. Gripens use GE engines built by Volvo, so ITAR will be involved.
Is there any program where you can learn to fly fighter jets? I saw you can buy a L-39 Albatros for less than half a million, surely there should be some program out there.
>>1514454>op said for funThis is absolutely fun.... for me. Did you ever hear one of these?
>>1516608Is it like a delicate fart in the wind?
>>1516550You can buy plenty of old trainer jets for relatively cheap. I think Fouga Magisters go for $100k or so. The issue with all of them is maintenance and fuel costs.
>>1516638There's a Magister at my home airport, not sure what the deal with it is but I've never seen any sign of it being used or moved and it's always parked outside with just a cover over the canopy. I assume somebody managed to afford the plane and then realized they couldn't afford to fly it.
>>1516645Oh, actually, I was able to look up the tail number and I guess it DOES get flown, just very occasionally, like two or three times a year.
>>1516648The Magister is sort of my dream plane, but even I can see that the fuel burn on that sucker is something like $400/hr. Just not realistic even for a middle class dude like me. Then add in the maintenance and it's out of reach. So close, but so far, with a price like this.https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/189777155/fouga-cm-170-magister
Would love to own and fly a Harrier jump jet>https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/191203255/1979-british-aerospace-sea-harrier-fa2
>>1516189>it’s an objective fact that rightards are literal golems for capital. EvenSubhuman leftists are literally the unthinking mutt pawns of Wall Street
>>1517139Which leftists are those supposed to be? Is this more "it’s communism when there’s gay CEOs" brain cancer?
>>1517340I don’t know why you’re screeching about trannies, but none of that has to do with the left.
>>1517146lmao if they think democrats are in any way leftist you're not going to get any good faith arguments out of them4/10 meme - interesting composition and format, but lacking in substance
>>1517394Not him but he's right
>>1517411If you mean right-wing retard, then perhaps.
>>1517403This seems like a post from one of these twitter socialist types who are in a state of eternal cope from having literally no success in a life where it’s not hard for anyone to work their way up and be making a cool 80k even if it’s in like retail
>>1517420Like the system isn’t built wrong, you just don’t want a job.
>>1517420Irrelevant screeching like this isn’t an argument.
>>1515191>think you'll defeat western militaries, right-wing deathsquads, militias, armed citizens, etc., in open combat?1945
>>1517423I wasn’t trying to argue, just insult you.
>>1517425You failed in either regard.
>>1517419>If you mean right-wing retard, then perhaps.
>>1517424without the massive material/military support of America and the Commonwealth the bolsheviks would have been pushed into the Pacific, let's not pretend otherwise.contemporary leftists are fat/malnourished, effeminate, mentally ill druggie freaks that have never produced anything material in their lives, not conscripted steelworkers and farmers.
>>1517469There’s no need to pretend, all of that nonsense was just something that the mutts invented to feel better about LARPing as the good guys despite the overwhelming support that the Nazis received from mutt kkkapitalists. Of course, it goes without saying that Nazi Germany has long-since been supplanted by muttmurrishart as the most destructive and objectively evil force in history.
>>1517471>muhhhh capitalists supported the nahtzeeswall street has been funding marxoids from lenin to BLM
>>1517686You’ve never read Marx (you’re too dumb if you tried), hence why you don’t understand that BLM is liberal controlled opposition that doesn’t actually threaten the establishment. Wall Street did fund the Nazis too, I don’t understand why you’re chimping out about that, I thought that Hitler was supposed to be le based and tried giving you IRL anime waifus or whatever?
>>1517690>controlled opposition>literally founded by self proclaimed marxistscope.leftists are the establishment, the status quo, and confronting that fact makes you extremely uncomfortable for some reason. 20th century history can be summarized by marxists and liberals synthesizing to crush the last vestiges of traditional europe, revolutionary third positionism, then moving on to wreck the last illiberal, traditional remnants of the islamic world.
>>1517765The only thing that makes me "uncomfortable" is the realization that you're unironically retarded enough to think that corporations support socialism because there are gay CEOs and black police chiefs.
>>1517768i didn't say that you stupid nigger i said that marxists have been actively cooperating with/overt golems of capital since the beginning. the right is the only thing that threatens the world order.
>>1517770>look at these kids pulling down statues on cnn>clearly this means that wall street is marxistwtf i love hitler now???
>>1517772more that capital tolerates/encourages marxism in its institutions as an impotent pressure release valve with the added benefit of destroying the last vestiges of non-material institutions like religion, community, or national identity. this isn't the 19th century anymore, get with the times gramps.
>>1517774>more that capital tolerates/encourages marxism in its institutions as an impotent pressure release valveSo that’s why they’ve been destroying social democracy, unions and welfare states for the last half-century, it all makes perfect sense now.
>>1517776>this fucking dense'they' haven't destroyed shit. there's still century-old relic orthodox marxist parties in every western country. they're just completely impotent hence why they still exist when right-wing movements are treated with hostility ranging from media slander to police raids.what's happened is the 'long march through the institutions' worked, synthesizing capital and marxist social thought to form woke capital.
>>1517782>the last 40-50 years of austerity, deregulation and privatization are actually marxism because there are some ancient parties around still waving red flagsI’m not even trying to be rude, m8, but I think you might be unironically retarded.
>>1517782>>1517797"History is the laboratory in which we learn that nothing works or ever can." ~Michael Swanwick
>>1513067Contract whoever Republic turned into after sixty years of mergers and have them build you Thunderwarrior. Mach 3 interceptor concept that made it as far as the mock up phase.
>>1513067>super-sonicbuy one of these instead
>>1513067If money were no object: One of these refitted as a business jet.
>>1526688I've talked to a couple of guys who have flown the Tu-95/114. They say that if you can fly a fucking 210, you can fly this thing. Let the FE manage the incredibly complex propulsion system, and the plane itself flies great. Loud as 47 kinds of fuck, though.
>>1513067> ME262> lovely 30mm machine guns> can reduce a B17 to rubble> contemporary interceptors can‘t match its‘ superior velocity
>>1513067Su are very VERY sexy but I might still fly a Strike Eagle.
M I K O Y A N
>>1532076>can also catch fire at the slightly mishandle of the throttle lever
>>1532709People do run some repros with J85s, which would probably just be better to use than the original engine all around.
>>1532719Yeah that's definitively for the best.
>>1531025Pretty sure there was only one and it got rekt
>>1513067no ww2 plane instead?
The fleet of the company this man founded>10 Hawks>4 L-39ZAs>2 L-39s>5 PC-9 Turboprop Trainers>17 Highly-modified Cessna T337 Turbo Skymasters>10 F-5E Tiger IIs>4 MiG-29 Fulcrums>46 F/A-18 Hornets
>>1536886I'd probably go this route, as the costs of operating a jet are exorbitant even for billionaires unless someone else is footing the bill. I'd personally go for a P51 Red Tail Mustang, and a Bearcat
>>1513073vallankumouksessasi metsä puhuu suomea, toveri
I heard that A-10 are cheap and very damage-permeable. It isn't super sonic, though
>>1537235I'm pretty sure they're not for sale. They flyover my house in Maryland to the National Guard base once in a while.
>>1513259There's some guys in Texas who operate a Mig-23. A billion is more than enough to get a supersonic jet.
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>>1537234piipiipuupuu vyborg :D:DD
>>1513067unrelated but I'm buddies with a billionaire who bought 15 MD80s and is looking at getting them flying and getting us rated on it.
>>1513067>Just for funT-7
>prototype flight pushed back to 2025AAAAAA I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER.
>>1514531exactly how loaded was prof X to own and operate one of this on the regular?
>>1519448>wiki:>During the fall of 1987, Fairchild Corporation (then Republic's parent company) destroyed Republic's corporate archives.Sigh.
>>1542987They already have 20 orders tho
>>1513143I'm sure if you had a good enough lawyer you could make a second amendment case.
>>1536954Mustangs are still roughly $3500-4500 per hour to operate, which is higher than many light and mid size biz jets.
>>1545129who let the boomers in?
>>1542954This render is outdated. They changed the design again so now it has cranked arrow wings.
>>1543975lol no matter how good your lawyer is the court system tends to treat fighter jets a little differently than rifles
>>1543975Imagine thinking the 2A or any other part of the constitution is valid anymore
>>1515273Those with this kind of budget have plenty of money to grease the appropriate palms. I used to collect military vehicles and a guy in the club owned an Mi-24 Hind with fully operational weapons. He used his prodigious cash and influence to bend the rules in his favor. People with multi million dollar toys like this do not care about the regulations that you have to abide by.
>>1513073Reminder that leftists are faggots, niggers, lardasses, trannies and retards.
>>1548394imagine being as massive of a bootlicking faggot as you are
>>1513073that's not really how it goes downits just new pigs in the trough
>>1552945>he doesn't know
Tupolev 160 painted black with gold spinners on the hubcaps, call sign “steal yo bitch”
>>1552762Probably the comfiest ITT
>>1513067>If I was a billionaire and I wanted to buy a super-sonic jet, just for fun, what should I buy?Well you're not actually going to war so don't worry about how effective it is or its ground/air attack roles. It's probably not legal to arm it unless you build a private estate in Somalia or something.You want something that is easier to fly so you don't fly it into the dirt, something you can land in as many airstrips as possible, something you can fuel and something you can get replacement parts for easily.Something like an older MiG or Sukhoi probably, then you could fly it from your private island in the pacific to continental USA. Easy to keep a stockpile of parts in both locations and ex-USSR mechanics trained to service it shouldn't be too hard to come by and probably happy to get out of their shithole countries and come to USA or wherever on a multi-year contract to service your engines after every flight.
>>1552945Is it really not?
>>1513073People actually fell for this bate? I genuinely want to know how someone can be that retarded
>>1513067These are beginning to be retired
Why not go with a timeless classic?Pic related.
>>1513067F-104 Starfighter. Because if you can fly that you're a skitz cunt.
When is the Boom XB-1 going to be available in X-Plane, bros? I want to fly a small supersonic jet so badly...
>>1517424i do have a line of thought where the new radleft actually wins, then they liquidate all the twitter libarts lumpenproles.>noooooo we were supposed to get free tendies>but you are not a worker, are you? tell me what use the state has for 'liberal arts' or 'content creators'>but i did memes for you! i shitposted irl! I AM THE REVOLUTION!!>yes, yes. now face the wall.aside from that most hilarious of circumstances, fuck commies. get a job.
>>1513143can't even own a super jet fighter to protect your familylmao, land of the reee
>>1513067If someone was to buy a demilled supersonic aircraft and sort out the parts and maintenance issues, is flying it even the kind of thing that an average person could handle? Not so much any super high G tactical maneuvers, but just normal takeoffs, landings and cross country supersonic cruising. Basically apart from aerobatics is it that difficult to fly with proper training?
>>1570387youd need a license
>>1513067MIG-25. Fastest plane money can buy, and they're only $5M
>>1514609Look at this poorfag whining about petty shit.
>>1532721Two, one got starfightere'd but the other completed the test program and is now a museum piece.
>>1513067SU-57 don't even have to think about it
>>1578714I want to go see this semen demon.
>>1560942America made that plane already, and better.
>>1513082that skin is in AC7 for the Su-37based
>>1548394sadly, you aren't wrong>>1548747I don't think anon is bootlicking. Just giving us a blackpill.
>>1578714REEEEEeeeeeee!,,,hackcough,,,ahem,,,REEEeeee!~!,,,,,,ooooyou FAKES!,thinkyoursmart?,X-24A?,,,,NOT!,,,X24 was canibalized to make the Heritic X-24B sitting beside FAKE!,,,,ooooo animosity Growing!,,24B was trying to cover the 24Amazing!,,,all that surface area added,,,,funky wingythingys.,,,,24B lands on Tarmack first? SOOOWHAT!,,X-24A best lifting body!,,,,,so, its likly a modifyed X-24J (jet)>>1539551
Unless I've missed it no one wants a Harrier? Hear me out, yes not super sonic BUT...can be stored in your garage (big garage) no need for full runway just roll out into a bit of clearing and take off, can do fun tricks other planes can't, plenty of planes still available still so parts are around, looks cool.What more do you want?
>>1585959Rather sensible, indeed; after all, you do have to land the damn thing and not just on - inconveniently located - airports.So a VTOL capable plane, ergo, a Harrier.Though I'd prefer a helicopter; bit more room for stuff in them. Not as fast, but really quite fast for the fighting choppers. And turning is rather more comfortable.
>>1513067The contractors ATAC have 60 Mirage F1s which are pretty cool. They have a hanger/base in my state that has their F21s (Israeli licensed Mirage 5s), an L39, some Hawkers, and a Draken.
>>1585959>can do fun tricks other planes can't>>1585971Ya'll have fun with that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harrier_Jump_Jet_family_losses
you aren't too smart.... flying a L-39, HAWK, C-101 or Alphajet is funnier than flying a F-16. They are easier to fly, more stable, and ... you don't feel the difference between flying at 500kts or 250kts, the important factor is height... it's funnier flying at 250kts at 1500ft rather than 500kts at 3000feet... and obviously you aren't going to fly at 500kts low as it is illegal, even for the military
I know exactly the answer for this thread, believe me, the coolest planes to fly are jet trainers. They are easy to fly, easy to mantain, they have a good balance between stall speed, acrobatics and speed
>>1513067I would buy my self a Viper Jet Mk.IIWhen comes to aircraft the maintenance is the hardest and most expensive problem. Thats why only governments can afford fighter jets while the Viper is particualry aimed for rich guys who can affor maintance for the jet. And it is a beautiful jet with large canopy and mean design. God, I love that jet.
>>1513067Sukhoi SU-34 ( Cyхoй Cy-34 )
>>1513152Yes you can purchase one just to seat like a monument in your back yard. Do you have any idea what is the yearly cost of owning, just owning and not flying a plain old Cessna 172? Do you have any idea what is aircraft maintanance? How much does it cost to take of, use the airspace and than land on airstrip?! The engine and countless other systems? If the jet costs 10 million then youll need 10 times more than that if you want your, lets say F-16 to be operational. Plus you need a crew of engeneers and what not with full time jobs in your hangar. Go watch Kermit Weeks on JooTube. He collects WW1 and WW2 planes and he is like rich before any of your imagination and he doesnt own a F-16 Fighting Falcon haha
>>1587792Do you know what ellipses are used for? Do you know what a comma is?
>>1513067If you want speed, MiG-25.
>>1587982speed is stupid, i bet none of you have ever flown a plane... those planes need to be high to be fast, and once you are about 10.000 feet you don't have sense of speed, only when you are at 1-5k feet
>>1587962>collects WWI and WWII era planes>doesn't own F16wow, big surprise
>>1587792>flying 500 kts low is illegal, even for military>laughing bucaneer/mirage/tornado/viggen/f104/f111 pilots.mp4https://youtu.be/ZFz326Rzr-Qhttps://youtu.be/cK6V4Kt_Ejwhttps://youtu.be/nltc_dq_VXI
>>1513339>these are de-militarized so yes, you can own themno shit, do you think OP wanted to engage in warfare or just fly/own it
>>1587962>If the jet costs 10 million then youll need 10 times more than that if you want your, lets say F-16 to be operational.so?? your poorfag is showing. like anyone could easily afford a $100 or $200 bicycle, or $500 or whatever arbitrary budget, but $1000, $2000 or $5000 is suddenly unattainable richfag territory to some anons. you can't even comprehend the level of baller some poeple are on, and how some people have 10x, 100x or higher gains in the stock market, crypto, business ventures and whatnot
>>1514907Judaism is satanism, and all communist leaders have been either Jewish or funded by jews. This is easily verifiable.
>>1513145How else would I transverse the globe? In a hot air balloon? Absurd!
>>1589293Jesus was a jew too. Hope you're not a hypocritical jew worshiping christcuck
>>1587957this guy knows what he says, he truly knows. Those that say they'd fly a huge fighter like a f-15, a multiengine jet, a russian plane (where you don't understand the controls) have no clue ...
>>1593648maybe something like red bull air race would make sense if you want to have fun on a budget, you might even turn a profit from sponsorships
>>1593704>Red Bull has decided not to continue the Red Bull Air Race World Championship beyond the 2019 season.aw shit nvm
>>1593561Not who you replied to, but Jesus was the last good jew. All jews after him are kabbalistic aka satanic.
>>1593704if you want to fly one of these planes is really cheap, by having PPL and acrobatics course, you can rent one for about 200 euros/hourwhat i want people to know is that flying at 1500mph is not more interseting than flying at 500mph, once you are flying high you have no sense of speed... it's like wanting to have 100kg of cake to eat, you will be tired of it once you have eaten 300gr
>>1548254the second amendment covered fucking war galleons, why wouldnt it cover jets
>>1594011You feel it while accelerating. So with faster top speed you get to feel the acceleration heavier or longer.
>>1594043man, i know what i say because i've flown many airplanes (even jets when i was young) and you don't feel acceleration unless you are doing acrobatics, throotle will not make you feel acceleration unless you are making a touch and go on the runway
>>1594052If you don't feel acceleration then you're not accelerating quickly enough. A plane that can do 1500 mph certainly has enough power to accelerate quickly enough.
>>1594089a plane doesn't have traction like a car does, it's a smoother acceleration
>>1594097doesn't matter. Acceleration is acceleration.
>>1594098You're an idiot. An aircraft has a completely different feel than an automobile and causes sensory illusions.
>>1513067How about rich enough for X planes?X29 for me thx
>>1594098when you are flying you don't feel throotle aceleration, but you can feel g-forces by doing step turns, acrobatics, etc...
>>1513067A mig 21 is less than $100k, just get one of those. Keep in mind it takes about 800 gallons of fuel which will be gone in 30 minutes or so
>>1516652>$400/hr>45 minute flight timeYou wont be able to fly it as much as you think if you have a full time job so it will be fine. Getting certified would cost a fucking fortune though because you have to spend at least ten hours with an instructor in it to get a type rating plus god knows what else since its a jet. t.owns radial piston shitbox with similar fuel costsd
>>1594371man, a 60 years old russian supersonic airplane is not nice to fly, why not that small jet they posted before?