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>>1310469First for Reiwa-era
what are the best y2k or 2000s japanese train designs?
>>1310655Without a doubt pic related. It's literally peak early 2000s design.
>>1310469>>1310844>Shouwa Taxi>Heisei StationIs there a Reiwa Spaceport?
>>1310849R E I W A M O O N B A S E
>>1310469those bins look like a pair of lonely ghosts
>>1310849The only japanese spaceport/launchpad under construction currently is the one Canon is building in Wakayama-ken.
2020 dia-change: JR Central to have an all N700A fleet running on Tokaido Shinkansen topping 285km/h entirely.
Ah it's the Fukuchiyama accident anniversary again
>>1311284Trying to catch up to the 350 km/h trains next door?
>>1311284By the end of this year this is what JR Central should have in terms of rolling stock for the N700 seriesX Set - 80 (X0 aka the non-revenue service set has been officially removed from service)G Set - 51Considering that they will be building N700S sets starting next year (40 will be built by 2022) I wonder if they will retire some of the older N700 sets>>1312122They'll never catch up to any of the neighbouring countries in terms of operating speed since Tokaido Shinkansen has way too many tight curves for that to happen
>>1312122the piss-poor reliability of chinese built trains means they only really run one or two lines at that speed or else half the fleet would be out of service
>>1312128>Tokaido Shinkansen>tight curvesChoose one.Tighter than other HSR, absolutely, but not remotely near what usually would constitute a "tight curve".Remember, radii can go down as long as the maximum speed goes down as well.
>>1312122Tell me when they are tilting. Literally not an argument: 1. They aren't mindless drones trying to chase top speed pointlessly. 2. This is for Tokaido Shinkansen operation. 3. They are only trying to sell to overseas with N700S's 360km/h trial. The US and Taiwan aren't going to buy PRC HSR rolling stock.
When can train departure time information be connected to official apps and third party apps in real time?
>>1312998I know Japan loves their fax machines, but this is on another level.
>>1313211>The other guy asks for something from the 2000s>Posts something from the 1980sSo what's the point of using those chain link fences (?) to cover the windshield?
>>1312998You mean like Hyperdia? http://www.hyperdia.com
>>1314996Nah, it's mainly for displaying real time changes to train departure time due to delay and disruption, and especially when there are big incident that cause severe delays. Even if situation become worse enough for them to specially list the situation in official app and website, they usually won't have as much details as the display in the station. Not to mention in times when station staff simply choose to put a paper note on the display monitor. Would be nice of train companies online information can sync with whatever station staffs input into the departure time board and also make it allow free form input to conveniently display whatever information station staffs want it to display
>>1314974I think these are the Japanese trains being used in Indonesia or Malaysia, so the grating is probably to protect from rocks or vandalism or something.
>>1315202Didn't Ekikara have that?It has apparently been discontinued last month, though.
>>1315220Are there instances of old Shinkansen sets being exported? I know certain older series were demoted to all-stops service after being replaced, but it seems all the old sets were simply broken up when no longer in use, perhaps out of national pride.
>>1315583Nope, Ekikara was more of an aggregate site of all the train stations' schedules in Japan but it doesn't take any real time changes into consideration>>1315598None of the old Shinkansen sets have ever been exported as far as I know, regardless of MUH PRIDE I don't think exporting those after all those years / mileage on them would be a good idea regardless
>>1315614>>1315598There was an old Shinknsen 0 series train car being exported to Taiwan for checking construction clearance of the Taiwan HSRI believe there was also one of them being acquired by a British museum.
JR Central press releases: Tokaido Shinkansen rolling stock standardized top speed as N700A's 285km/h has enabled an increased Nozomi service frequency of 12tph, and all reaching a journey duration within 2.5h, reducing travel time. N7000 360km/h trial runs: Time: Mid- May to June nighttime Location: Maibara-Kyoto Vehicle type: 16M0T (enabled by standardized carriages/units)
>>1310469I find hankyu the classiest paint scheme of all.
MLIT launches Sagawa's mixed passenger-freight intermodal delivery service with JR Hokkaido's Soya Line local trains and Tenshio Hire's taxis, at Horonobe-cho from their Wakkanai hub.
Osaka Metro World Exo modified medium term plans (2018-2025): Pre-registered facial recognition gates and shops: 2019 trial starts. 2024 deployed to all stations, as part of a long term cardless and cashless goal (could include mobile device EMV in addition to national IC card)Bus Level 3 automation: 2019 internal and on-road testing, 2020 operational in 4 bayshore and island routes, 2024 reaches 20 routes Rail GoA 2.5 (driverless/attended (semi-)automatic train operation, attendant responsible for emergency stops in addition to closing doors) automation: 2024 Chuo Line Awaza -- Yumeshima trial
>>1317155>1時間あたり最大17本の運転が可能となる。>17 tphIs that the highest frequency among high speed railways in the world?
>>1317838>Using taxi for the last mile reachlel
>>1317931Not just cardless and cashlesss but they also want to make it gateless in the futureI guess that will probably be similar to those traveler temperature detector at various border check facilities around the world?
Mobile phone coverage within Seikan tunnel now enabled.
>>1318089I don't approve of all facial recognition for barrier-less gates. Surely mobile device NFC can enable open gate automatic fare collection, like far-field active RFID in open-road tolling.
>>1318206Can't run existing NFC with farfield easily due to tag density (every card/phone in field radius will respond, and separating is a major pain or impossible). There are reasons why only active tags are used for such places (active protocol control, negotiation, greater bandwidth).But, if you retired the existing NFC card fleet, and assumed powered/active tags (so phone or those new NFC cards with the ginourmous capacitor in the center of the coil), maybe.But it looks like the government wants active facial recognition, so there's no escape.
>JR Hokkaido Mid-term operation plan to 2023Can they survive till then?
>>1310469>Image powered by Bunshun
>>1318739Abe bucksJR Hokkaido is still owned by the government because no private party would ever buy it
>>1319708If they cannot financially sustain themselves and become JNR Hokkaido, that won't count as survive either
>>1319758JR Hokkaido is mou shindeiru
>>1318739>>1320104>Still worrying about long-term prospects when they are still losing money right now (and possibly in the near future)kekhttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190426_KO_kessannsashikae.pdfAlso they also had a "long-term" plan that they'll be fully independent (so privatized) and profitable by 2031 aka when the Hokkaido Shinkansen is finally completed, but I don't think that's happeninghttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190409_KO_plan.pdf
>>1310469why is japan the most aesthetic country?
>>1321789They have government support in the next two or three years so they should still be able to stand for a while more
>>1321789>Also they also had a "long-term" plan that they'll be fully independent (so privatized) and profitable by 2031 aka when the Hokkaido Shinkansen is finally completed, but I don't think that's happeningFinancial performance of the line will be indicative to America if they still don't have a HSR by the time, given Hokkaido's population density
>>1321823I'd say that's most because you don't see "their" aesthetics in real-life.It's different from the Western way of designing shit.They'd probably feel similarly about our towns and cities. (If they weren't littered with graffiti, trash, garbage made by art majors, and homeless people.)
The best part comes at 16:30! (Woosh!!) I’m at one of my favorite train spotting spots in Tokyo!Between Two Moving Trains in Tokyo? | Yurakucho JR Stationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNHesr8P1Ak
京王線 朝ラッシュ時の運行略図https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_Gkmx8YGI近鉄電車 路線網の歴史(グループ会社線を含む)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nsIUizIiJk
Well I guess Odakyu is a bunch of rebel flag bro truck driving dumbdumds now since they draw inspiration from brotrucks for new EMU design. Can't say I'm a fan of the LED lightbar.
>>1324346Here is the photo.
>>1324347Also Keisei is also having new rolling stock. Looks like the Toei 5500 but even worse. Also Shin-keisei is getting the same trains just painted pink
>>1324348Also Tobu is also introducing the 70090 which is the equivalent to the 50090 on the Tojo line.
Shinkansen general when?
It seems that with the eventual connection of Toyama Light Rail (north side) and Toyama Tram (south side) at Toyama Station in 2020, Toyama Regional Railway who owns the city's tram network will acquire Toyama Light Rail on Feb 22nd, 2020https://news.mynavi.jp/article/railwaynews-171/
>>1325150>Toyama Light RailBased already for pic related.
So when they launch the Tokyo LRT within this fiscal year, it will not have its own right of way on most roads?
>>1324634No need really. Also the 800 series is getting a Mickey mouse livery for whatever reason.
JR East announced that they will increase the operating speed of Joetsu Shinkansen (Omiya ~ Niigata) from 240 km/h to 275 km/h, work will commence this year and lasts until 2023 and the switch to E7 Series Shinkansen sets will complete by 2022https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2019/20190504.pdf
Anybody got any good Jap steam photos? Maybe some mining narrow gauge?
JR East just announced the new E261 series. These are going to be running on the super odoriko service I believe.
>>1328548The announcement was made a while ago regarding the E261 Series EMU will replace the 251 Series EMU and Super View Odoriko service in 2020, the new service will be called Saphir Odoriko and runs between Tokyo/Shinjuko to Izu Shimoda. 2 8-car sets will be built and it will be Green Class only.
>>1328504>lasts until 2023Is this implying they will go back to the slower speed later?
>>1328599I guess I didn't word it properly, the work that needs to be done to increase the speed (surveying and soundproofing) will last until 2023. I would assume the speed increase will be pending on government approval as well
If you were orchestrating the breakup of JNR, how would you have divided the country up between rail companies?
>>1328605Why break it up at all?What gain was there to be made in the first place?
>>1328613The communist labor union will also be forced to break up in the process
>>1328605>>1328715Well, then give each prefecture its own JR.
>here's your new Shinkansen bro
Why is the Shinkansen so ridiculously expensive compared to other trains?
>>1329100It's not that much more expensive than limited expresses.
>>1329100The difference isn't that high IIRC (as long as you aren't comparing it to Seishun 18).The problem is rather that in Japan rail is expensive to begin with.You get something worth that money in return, though, so no one is complaining.I doubt you'll find a place in the West where the base fare per kilometer is remotely as high as in Japan.If it wasn't for the JapanRailPass, I'm not sure I'd primarily rely on rail when traveling Japan.Fucking planes are cheaper.
JR Hokkaido to install noise barrier for JPY12B to raise Hokkaido section of Shinkansen top speed to 320km/h.JR East Chuo Line Rapid and Ome Line interrunning section toilets to be introduced on in-bound Car 4 end from May 27.
JR Hokkaido increasing fares starting October this year. Note that this isn't just because the consumption tax is increasing but also because the company is trying to increase revenue as well. Pretty big impact for shorter distance tickets since the fare increase is proportionally bigger (1~3km, price increases from 170 to 200 yen; 7~10km, 220 to 290 yen; 11~15km, 260 to 340 yen). However, they are implementing special fare rules for tickets for journeys less than 100km between certain stations to remain competitive with alternate modes of transportation. The extra charge for the airport branch of the Chitose line is going to drop from 140 yen to 20 yen. All fare changes are subject to approval by MLIT and are not final.http://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190510_KO_Revision.pdfhttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190510_KO_Revision2.pdf
>>1329554wow, retarded autismNever thought I'd see it
>>1329554>JR Chibabased and peanutpilled
>>1329554>JR SaikaiWasn't JR Hokkaidou last, if you were to rank the JRs?
>>1329554for what purpose?
>>1329554>Separating San'in and San'yoWould be difficult to provide convenient&efficient In-yo connection?>Ito peninsula and southern Ito islands belong to JR Tokaiwhy?
>>1329908The purpose of retarded autism>>1329564Yeah me too (that's why I made the image).>>1329813It would be 西海旅客鉄道>>1329573Had that because of the dourou>>1330288>In-yoNo I don't think anything would change>IzunokuniI hate Tokyu
>>1330432>I hate TokyuAbsolutely based.
>>1330432>西海Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks.I didn't make the connection to/with JR Tokai.Although, wouldn't it be more appropriate to read that "Seikai"?That's also a homonym, but one without such negative connotations.
>>1330575>Although, wouldn't it be more appropriate to read that "Seikai"?No, as I took it from the Saikaidou (西海道) of the Gokishichido system.By the way don't take my posts seriously it's embarassing...
>>1330582Don't worry, I'm not taking it seriously, but that seemed like an interesting point to 突っ込み at, and maybe learn something.And I did. I didn't know about Gokishichidou before your post. Thank You!In Japanese you can decide the reading of proper nouns within the limits of all available readings for the characters (see DQN names etc.), and a potential misunderstandings as 正解 seems preferable over being mistaken as 最下位.
Wonder which foreign company Kintetsu has made agreements with to develop their third rail contact shoe & pantograph dual system EMU for Yumeshima--Nara through service on Chuo Line.
>>1328959Unless they have some sort of measure against snow buildup, that placement for the headlights seems to be a bad idea>>1331827The obvious plot twist is that Kintetsu will end up building them themselves anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5opcokV3ncKagoshima tram wenr multi-track drifting at a switch.
Tozai line of Tokyo Metro suck.Why the fuck with the 200% congestion every morning rush hour?
>>1333012It's supposed to be the busiest. Otemachi is also being redeveloped these years. More of a Sobu corridor problem. Will be alleviated by Sobu-Keiyo through line and Keiyo Line common section quadrupling, with some relief further inwards from Yurakucho Line Tokyo Line 8-11 branch extension. For some historical background: Before Narita Shinkansen failed, there was a Keiyo-Yurakucho line through service concept floating around. Toei Shinjuku Line was devised to extend towards Hokuso Line had Chiba New Town didn't collapse, although how much this would divert Musashino and Noda lines may be doubious. Noda Line had a Tozai Line interrunning branch studied.
What is with the crazy overcrowding on some Japanese trains? How do you even get off in amongst so many people?
>>1333048Japs are really good at pushing on the train. I got shoved into a train somewhere in Tokyo before, but it was a nice experience. Everyone was very gentle.People in Taiwan don't do that. Even when there are open gangways, the middles and ends of the carriages away from the doors will be empty because people are afraid that they won't be able to get off at their stop.I think the difference is that in Japan people are just more aware of their surroundings and will let people off if they realize someone wants to move. People will step out of the carriage at stops for others to get off. It's very cordial.
>>1333048>What is with the crazy overcrowding on some Japanese trains?That's getting a bit outdated. Against the decade-old backdrop of reurbanization/recentralization and reducing commute distance, some lines has been quadrupled (eg Odakyu) or diverted (eg Ueno-Tokyo Line, which also allowed an increase in frequency), and there's aging population with reducing birth rate to come. Crowdedness is at its lowest level, and decreasing in general. Take your pic's Joban Rapid Line as an example, it's at 157% (32th in Tokyo) in 2017, dropped 10%pt every 5 years in the past decade. Joban Local Line is at slightly lower levels too. The former has been benefited by Ueno-Tokyo Line, and the latter will have the CBTC-Radio moving block ATACS installed in the near future. Long term, the parallel Tsukuba Express line is eventually going to be extended to Tokyo, Ginza, and the Seafront. It, and he feeder Musashino and Noda Line will be diverted by Sobu-Keiyo-Rinkai Line interconnection and Yurakucho-Hanzonmon Line extension >>1333027. >How do you even get off in amongst so many people?Apathetically.
Seems like even BRT will be too costly for Tadami line and JR East want to turn that into a simple road with bus running on it instead?
>>1333371I thought JR East is reopening the line, since Fukushima prefecture agreed to pay for repairs and take ownership of the line afterwards.
>>1333075Isn't 100% capacity still pretty tightly packed though?
>>1333075>Crowdedness is at its lowest level>>1333543>capacity The "capacity" doesn't mean what you think. The standard is apparenty 0.35m^2/pax=2.86pax/m^3, very comfortable and relaxed. The global standard is 3~4pax/m^2, with crush load at 4~6pax/m^2, safety limit at >=7pax/m^2.
>>1332506Not like they actually need the headlights anyway.
>>1333563>* global service standard >* with comfortable crush load at 5~6pax/m^2>* discomfort limit at >=7pax/m^2Need to check safety limit.
>>1333563>very comfortable and relaxed* Don't forget this is for Japanese. A very high expectation in ride quality even for Asians when you consider average crowdedness rate is at 120~130% in Nagoya and Osaka. Tokyo aims for <150% overall, and <180% as a bar to individual lines.
>>1333075>>1333543>>1333563>>1333565>>1333567I have been talking with Japanese from all over the country (including Tokyo/Kanto) about the crowdedness on trains, and they all say they have NEVER experienced those pushers we see webms of all the time.So that's probably an extreme situation even by Japanese standards.
>>1333583>from all over the countryIsn't it pretty much common knowledge that it only happens inside the Tokyo area?I don't think anyone was thinking that they're pushing people on to other trains.
>>1333584see>including Tokyo/KantoActually mostly. It's by far not as severe as in, say, France, but in their perception almost anything but Kanto is 田舎.Which, looking at pic related, almost seems plausible.
>>1333587As a % though how much was from Tokyo specifically?
>>1333589How does that matter?Have asked 6 people from the area so far, but if it actually was a regular thing even a single person from Tokyo denying it should not happen, and all of them have done it so far.It obviously does happen - otherwise those videos wouldn't exist -, but it's probably by far not as prevalent as many of us make it out to be.Usually being able to sit down doesn't appear to be a major plus in their eyes anyway.They are REALLY annoyed about railway in the West. Punctuality and frequency seem ridiculously bad to them. They even badmouth lines that I'd perceive as comparatively good. Which is great, I love Japanese stating their actual opinion instead of attempting to keep a straight face, while saying shit they don't actually think.
>>1333594All I'm trying to say is that the way you are making your argument is completely flawed.You're practically dismissing the problem of overcrowding with "well I spoke to some people and they said it doesn't happen".You aren't accounting for all like variables, like location (which I already mentioned) and what time they travel.
>>1333597I'm not dismissing it, I'm saying it's probably not as big of a problem as we make it out to be.It is definitely a problem, but probably limited to extremely well-defined line sections and time periods. It's not something you'll certainly experience, if you ride a train in Tokyo in the morning rush hour.I can also speak from experience on that. Riding the Yamanote and Chuo Line on a workday morning with luggage isn't much of a problem. Obviously wouldn't recommend it, though. Avoid it, if you can, or use a Ltd.Exp., if available, but if it cannot be avoided, it should work out. At least it did for me.
>>1333512Ah right, to be open in FY2021, the report I was reading was outdated
>>1333565I thought it would become a safety hazard when the load factor reached 300-350%?
JR Hokkaido upgrading Hakodate-Sapporo shinkansen route from 260kmph to 320kmph with their own money, could reduce travel time by 5 minutes
>>1333898Cost will be 12 Billion Yen, JR Hokkaido want some support from National government, national government say it would need JR Hokkaido improve their situation by the end of next fiscal year
Why not let JR Freight operate railroads that are parallel to Shinkansen? That way they can be optimized for Freight transportation while still maintaining certain degree of localized regional railway transportation ability like Amtrak
>>1333898>100 million USD to save 5 minuteswhy tho
>>1334224100 Million USD is still just a minor percent of the total project cost.And you need to add speed improvement from different sections together in order to reach a significant overall speed increase. JR East have also planned various other speed increase projects along the Tohoku Shinkansen, and then there's also plan to increase the Seikan tunnel speed, all these factors combined together would mean the trip time from Tokyo to Sapporo can be reduced to near 4.5 hours mark, which could be somewhat competitive given the New Chitose airport is pretty far away from Sapporo. JR Hokkaido estimate is that if all these projects can be done then the volume of passengers it can attract on the Tokyo-Sapporo route can be three folded, which could result in 14 Billion Yen additional revenue.Also, 320km/h between Shin Hakodate Hokuto and Sapporo will also put the journey time of nonstop trains between the two cities down to within 1-hour mark, which they hoped to use this travel tine to dominate the market entirely.
>>1334215>operateWhat does that suppose to mean? Those are third sector, and JR Freight is already a Type 2 Railway Operator.
>>1334356As in let them own and maintain those tracks instead of leaving it to local thord sector companies
Are there really cities in Japan with train operations ceasing at 20:00? Starting at 7:40 would also be really late.
Do they keep track of suicides by train? How many so far this year?
>>1335281Watanuki has a video on both.The latest first train in Japan (11:47 a.m.):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw9YsClFfn0The earliest last train in japan (6:47 a.m.):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpXHJazQSToSeems indeed weird, though. Where does that anime take place?
>>1335296It's the west side of Tokyo as the rolling stock shown in the show is pretty close to a Tokyo Metro 10000 series.
>>1335281I think that says 定(期?)券うりば, so it would be the ticket office, not the station itself.
Okinawa Yuirail extension to open in October this year.
One off special night train service between Kumamoto and Osaka announced.Salon Car Meisei, to be operated by Salon Car Naniwa trainSchedule:August 23: Osaka 16:18 - Kumamoto 11:17 (+1)August 25: Hakata 16:00 - Osaka 06:06 (+1)Group travel only, so you would need to purchase group tour via Japanese travel agencies if you want tp use the train.
>>1335946*There are also many other special train plans for Kumamoto this summer but all of them are available via travel agency only
>>1335281No, use your eyeballs and brain instead of looking at the subtitles.
Yamanashi governor Nagasaki Kotaro studies Mt Fuji (funicular?) railway (Kawaguchiko-machi -- Go-gome) for two years. https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/05/308ed3308788-governor-looks-to-draw-up-mt-fuji-railway-plan-in-2-yrs.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmQ3QPqFX4Q
Okinawa Monorail to accept the Suica-led National IC Card Interoperate Service Network in spring 2020. >>1335943
I fapped in my sunrise izumo cabin AMA
>>1338112what did you clean up with?
>>1338112What did you fap to
>>1338203Paper from the toilet.>>1338253Mana Izumi lotion dance JAV.
Tobu network evolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYVh2qgyjs
>>1338112did you cum buckets?
From the last thread about how in-train sales were being scaled back in JR East on various services, it will apply to Kagayaki / Hakutaka as well starting on July 1st this year. In addition JR East will no longer sell hot coffee in all JR East limited express / Shinkansen services where in-train sales are still available.https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2019/20190528_ho04.pdf
>>1338521only average amounts as it got dicey at Okayama station when I could hear the workers outside uncoupling the train.
>>1338826>no longer sell hot coffeeWhat the flying fuck?Even otherwise shitty railway companies like Deutsche Bahn still do that.Considering they aren't stopping selling most of the rest, why specifically coffee?Coffee seems like the one thing I'd prefer freshly made, instead of bought at the station.
>>1339015>not wanting a crisp sugarbomb UCC
>>1339015https://tabiris.com/archives/shinkansen-coffee/This article speculates that it's because to cut costs. Coffee is relatively labor-intesive to serve compared to other products. By cutting out coffee, they can have the attendants perform some duties performed by conductors and have fewer conductors per train.
if you had one week in japan to see trains where would you go?
Went to Japan in May 2017. All the transit there was comfy, clean, and punctual. Hope to go again in the future and do a bike tour to see more of the country.
I went to the Odakyu Family Railway Exhibition
Haneda Access Line Higashi-Yamanote Route track line (environmental impact assessment studied no intermediate station), and Odakyu Tama Line Sagamihara extension towards (investigation reported to be 2023 till Sagamihara Station) announced. https://tabiris.com/archives/jr-haneda20190531/ http://www.kankyo.metro.tokyo.jp/assessment/information/toshokohyo/publishdetail/359_hanedaaccess_tosho_kei.htmlhttps://tabiris.com/archives/odakyu-tama201905/http://www.city.sagamihara.kanagawa.jp/_res/projects/default_project/_page_/001/004/842/01houkoku.pdf
>>1339487>* Odakyu Tama Line Sagamihara extension towards Kamimizo
>>1339015>Even otherwise shitty railway companies like Deutsche Bahn still do that.Station and platform shops are more extensive in Japan. >Coffee seems like the one thing I'd prefer freshly made, instead of bought at the station.Vending machine, or a train bar at the conductor/sales room may not work out. >>1339097
>>1339015My guess is,Because those weaker railways around the globe need to attract more passengers and also have these extra amenity that are higher yield than their lower ticket price to partially offset their cost. While railway ticket cost in Japan relative to the standard of living there is already high enough, it make more sense for them to concentrate on the passenger carrying business
>Local people organize a Shintoism ceremony at Mt. Aso, wish to appease the deity there so that they can start restoring the ropeway from the next financial year>The volcano immediately started another eruption o. the earthquakeIs that a clear signal of NO rejecting desire of those tourism promotion group by the mountain's deity?
>>1339487From the article there are a few interesting notes about the Haneda Access Line- There are no plans for any new stations between Shinbashi and the one in Haneda Airport (15km)- The section between the Tokyo Freight Terminal and Haneda Airport (5km) will be fully underground with the deepest point being 48m deep- The station will be located between the two domestic terminals, and the platform in the Haneda Airport will be 311m long which will be enough for 15-car sets.- Each hour will have 4 services each way (15 minutes), which means a total of 144 trains a day (service runs at 18 hours per day) with no plans for express services yet.
>>1339491>Station and platform shops are more extensive in Japan.Actually, not really. Stations over here got largely turned into shopping malls in order to increase revenue.As far as food and drinks go, you get absolutely everything. Including coffee at Starbucks.There are even stations with a fucking full-size LIDL in them.
>>1339511I've been to Mt. Aso last year. The ropeway is pretty fucked, especially the top station. Walking up from the base station doesn't take too long, though. Plus you can also just drive up with your car now.
any aesthetic videos on jap trains?
the first Odakyu Romance-car"SERIES3000 SE"and the latest Odakyu Romance-car"SERIES70000 GSE"
the Romance-car "SERIES 3000 SSE"(modified from SE)
>>1340526While I'm not a big fan of branching from Tamachi, why not?
>>1340001Even on platforms? How often are those food and drinks brought onto the train?
>>1340880>Even on platforms?Sure, way less often than in Japan, but stores and vending machines like that also exist on a large scale.>How often are those food and drinks brought onto the train?All the fucking time. Recently even more so, since the "Bordrestaurant" has been massively downgraded across all trains, while prices have disproportionately risen.Back when I was a child, there were trains with a fucking McDonald's on board. That was awesome.
Tsukuba Express will lengthen its trains from 6 to 8 cars, in order to do so they will to perform various major works on its infrastructure and it wouldn't be complete until early 2030shttp://www.mir.co.jp/company/release/2019/8.html
News from Overseas :Former Musashino Line 205-50F train consist has been converted into 12-car consist from the previous 8-car consist
continuous stream of former Musashino line 205-5000 series EMU to Jakarta prompted various operational tests session with original Musashino Line Livery
KeYo M35 / 205-145F is already waiting for Transport to Jakarta and soon become the first "unique-faced" 205 series in Jakarta
>>1341368God I remember when they where building tsukuba express. Hell they didn't even have commuter rapid services when it opened. It's great I guess granted it's still going to cost too damn much to ride on still.
JR East just announced that they will be building a new experimental train set (FV-E991 Series) to test the feasibility of using hydrogen fuel cells on train sets. The test unit will enter service by 2021 and will have test runs on Nambu and Tsurumi Lineshttps://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2019/20190603.pdf>>1341839Is it actually that bad on a per km basis compared to other companies' railways?
>Dead threadWith the platform extension work for the 3 stations in the Honancho branch line of the Tokyo Metro's Marunouchi Line being completed, they will start having 6-car trains serving the branch line starting from July 5thhttps://www.tokyometro.jp/news/images_h/metroNews20190606_3.pdf
>>1341839Who cares how much it is. 99% of the riders have their commuting pass covered by their company.
>>1342290It's 20yen/km while JR is 16yen/km.Before Tokyo Metro raised their fares I would actually get off the train at Kita-Senju and take the Hibiya line to Akihabara to save 20 yen.
Can someone tell me what a typical Super Azusa service looked like? The E351 series (an 8 + 4 set) split somewhere after Kofu(?) and I can't find out where they went after that.Anyone got pics of the E351 4 car set running by itself?
Is the loading gauge on JR narrow gauge lines too narrow for normal-sized shipping containers?I've been in Japan for a few days. I've seen lots of freight trains with those mini-sized JR Freight containers, but not a single train with a regular ISO shipping container.
>>1346392The koki 110 can carry 40ft containers. If you want to see freight look at kita-asaka on the musashino line you will see them.
Kintetsu considering dual-source battery-packed EMU as Keihana Line - Osaka Metro Chuo Line Nara-Yumeshima through train for World Expo 2025.
How can I book tickets for the Shikishima?
>>1347339Currently it's not possible.https://www.jreast.co.jp/shiki-shima/en/topics201904.html
>>1347478>2020fug it's that popular huh.Think I might actually do it, it's like $7000~ for a single or something right?
Mitsuboshi Colors posters in JR, Tokyo Metro, Keisei Ueno stations between mid July and August. >>>/a/189508242
Can someone tell me which station this is?
>>1341807long train is long
Is it true Japs don't have a centralised train time system? As in you can't just go to a website and see if trains are late etc.
West Japan Railways just announced that they will build new train sets to suppliment the current 281 Series EMU for the Haruka service by 2020, 6 3-car 271 Series sets will be built for the sole purpose of lengthening the 6 6-car 281 sets (current configuration has 9 6-car sets and 3 3-car sets) so that the service will be running at 9-car full time. The design motif will be similar to the 281 Series EMU and it is pretty much assumed that more 271 Series sets/cars will be built as the 281 EMUs reach end of life in mid-2020shttps://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/2019/06/page_14402.html
>>1350419No - if the train is significantly late it's generally national news
>>1350611That's not what I mean, I meant a system like http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/ or https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ like we have here.There's a post above that's just a picture of a departure board and that's why I was asking.>train is significantly late it's generally national newsIsn't that quite common though? I read a story 2 weeks ago about a train that was late due to flooding.
>>1348930God I love this train set... the blunted nose, high driver's cab, and purple paint is just kino. Which series is it?
>>1350419>>13508141. No, they have real-time position-based ones, only not all in English. 2. Yes, because the whole non-limited mainline train system is operated on the commuter model. You don't book tickets or reserve seats for any specific ordinary suburban or regional trains. They are organized as lines, not individual trains, so delays are reflected to the line and train class first and foremost. You don't check train numbers or their stations calling at.
>>1350854>the whole non-limited mainline train system is operated on the commuter modelVery interesting, thanks for the info.How does this work though with smaller rural stations that may only get an hourly service?
>>1350817E351 - they've all been retired and scrapped though.
>>1350866Many of those operate as something akin to a railbus service. But you can see where theyre at on navitime usually. You can see delays and etc on navitime as thats what I use.>>1350817E351, All retired and scrapped and thank god pendulum tilting trains are literal cancer.
>>1350973>railbus serviceAs in? Also, there is nothing wrong with tilting trains.
>>1350984You get in at the door in the front and get a ticket or tap the ic card reader. When you leave you pay at pic related or tap out when you leave. A lot like a bus as most rural stations are unattended. Also pendulum style tilting trains are literally ass. In fact they had retired the E351 as they where getting extremely expensive to run due to its type of inferior roll system damaging the body of the train. Thankfully I only had to ride a E351 once to realize how bad it was considering i get motion sick pretty bad thankfully the last time I went to Matsumoto I didn't have such an experience due to how the E353 doesn't pendulum back when leaving turns.
>>1350984Oops this is what you pay at.
>>1350984And fare work no differently than any bus in Japan when you ride.
>>1351024>>1351026>>1351028This is all very interesting stuff anon, thanks so much for sharing.Here in Bongland rural stations (hell, even a lot of large ones) the train guard sells you a ticket instead or you can buy a digital ticket on your phone.I only mentioned the tilting trains as we have Pendolino trains here and they are some of the most well regarded.
>>1351031Yeah those arent bad as those are hydraulically regulated tilting. The E351 used rollers to tilt the train about 5 degrees and as a pendulum would it would roll back over the centerline to even itself out until it was back completely level so the train would sway laterally for about a bit after the turn.
>>1348930Might be Kami-Suwa but I'm not sure.
>>1348930>>1351068The website that reverse image search brings up says Matsumoto: http://www.johnharveyphoto.com/Japan2/Matsumoto/LocalTrain.html
>>1346069>>1348930Here's the E351 4 car set on its own
>>1351082That makes sense - I think a Super Azusa service would be the 8+4 car E351 from Shinjuku to Matsumoto.Then, at Matsumoto, the train splits, and the 8 car portion continues to Minami-Otari (which is on the admin border between JR East and JR West (?)) I think this portion of the journey was referred to as "Azusa" (rather than "Super Azusa").I wonder what happened to the 4 car portion that was left behind though. Was it used on any services, or did it just sit at Matsumoto waiting for the 8 car portion to return?Like >>1350817 I too adore the E351. I have the KATO n-scale model and I have entered to the world of miniature scenery-making just so the model can sit on a diorama that is worthy of it.I haven't really found much english-language resources on the E351, so anyone can point to me to, or tell me about, interesting stuff about it, I'm all ears.>>1351024I didn't know that the pendulum tilt was actually damaging the train. Is that why people say the E351 was expensive to maintain?
>>1351501Yeah, the body of the E351 would twist as it wasn't as rigid and the rollers would wear out pretty quick due to the high degree of tilt. The airbags on the E353 fix most of that since it tilts less and the body isn't rounded like the E351 was.
>>1351561I thought the rounded body of the E351 was so that if the tilting failed and the train was stuck at full tilt, it would still remain within the loading gauge for the Chuo mainline. But the E353 doesn't need this and has straighter, taller sides. Because it doesn't tilt as much perhaps? (1.5 deg compared to 5 deg?)
>>1351580Take a look at >>1351024 you can see the E351 is rounded at the bottom as it moved in between the rollers in order to tilt versus the E353 that uses airbags to tilt the body instead.
Tomorrow night, NHK's Tokyo Miracle program will air an episode that details how JR East's operation center at Tokyo deal with irregular operations.Anyone going to watch them, or better yet, record, archive, and share them?
>>1351035>hydraulically regulated tiltingNot true, the 390s use an electromechanical system, it's the 221s that use hydraulics.
Planning to buy a JR rail pass for my holiday, is the green car worth it?I've had a look at the page for it but it just seems like a really shitty first class.
>>1353958Depends where you're going and how much time you want to spend at a Midori no madoguchi.
>>1353958Green Car is literally that, just an equivalent to most modern "business class" trains. First Class trains of old in Japan were fancier as there were three classes before it was reduced to two classes we see today>>1353963Regardless of which pass he gets he'll still have to spend time at Midori no Madoguchi since he'd be stupid not to take advantage of free reserved seats
>>1353965Literally why. I never do that when I go to Japan. Unless I'm taking a specific limited express train somewhere there is no need since I never had an issue with non-reserved seating ever. It's a waste of time really.
>>1353963>>1353965Cheers, I'm probably not going to bother with it, you don't really get much more for the money, and the mandatory reservations is really off-putting.
>>1353971You can do reservations on limited express and most shinkansen services for free if you really want to but just not for green car services free of charge with a normal Jr rail pass.
>>1353974Point is I don't want to do seat reservations in the first place, I much prefer the turn up and go approach.
>>1353976You can still do "turn up and go" for most limited express / Shinkansen services with the JR Pass, but certain services (Hayabusa and Kagayaki in particular) will require reservation since they have no non-reserve cars, and depending on what time you want to take the train reserving seats can help you secure a seat since non-reserved seats can fill up very easily especially on rush hours.
>>1353976I know mate but depending where you want to go you might have to do it. Example if I am visiting Matsumoto I'm not riding a normal train out there and the best way to get there is a limited express train and it's just easier to reserve a seat than play musical chairs the whole time. But consider it when planning out where you're going.
>>1353978>>1353980What a pain in the arse, I thought it would just be a case of buying a pass and then being able to use the railways as you wish within the time period you bought.I guess I'm going back to the drawing board for a bit.
>>1353983It is. If you're taking a normal train or any non reserved train you show your pass to the station attendant and they let you through and you go board your train. But not all trains are like that. You should be fine. Just be aware while taking some limited express and most shinkansen not all cars function that way. It would be cool if you could post where youre going so we can help you some more.
>>1353985>It is.>But not all trains are like that.Erm, what?Regardless, thanks for all the help. I'm still working through plans now so you might see me ask a more detailed question in a week or two.
>>1353987On a normal commuter train you can just hop on and off if you take a limited express train most seats are reserved with the exception of a few cars. Same with the shinkansen pic shows that only set cars you can go on without reservations. So cars1-3 on the Sakura service you can just walk on and take a seat.
>>1353958>is the green car worth itIf you don't want to experience crowded trains, sure, but generally the regular JRP does its job perfectly.This guy rides green cars a lot, if you want to get an impression:https://www.youtube.com/user/usiusa7991
>>1354118>Suit trainI didn't realize there are such men of high culture and taste here.
>>1354118>>1354127It's pretty crazy how far he's come since his first longest round-trip ticket series. He could barely afford food or lodging, and now he can ride Shikishima.
>>1354513I know right. My buddy in Japan is a train autist and posts photos and stuff on Twitter and managed to get a picture of Cassiopeia running and I was like ayy yo is that suit train waving in the back. Man this dude does so much now.
>>1354127You immediately get him recommended by YT once you watch a few Japanese railway videos, I think.His videos are extremely interesting and enjoyable, but I personally am more of the Aokuma/Watanuki type, i.e. no face cam and subtitles in Japanese in order to correctly detect new vocabulary.It's nice there are all types of people doing videos on (Japanese) railway, though, and he is one of those.Also loved his ride on the Transsib. That was kino.His video about getting a glimpse of the parked Airforce One in Osaka was also fun.
>>1354827I love the one where he finds monkeys on the tokaido line. That was pretty fun.
so all 351 / 189 style designs are gone now? no working preserved ones?the new styled ones look so soulless compared to them
>>1355162>so all 351 / 189 style designs are gone now?You mean limited express train sets with the high cab? There are plenty of those, but if you're talking just about older JNR sets, there's still the 381 series Yakumo running between Okayama and Izumo. They'll probably be around for a couple of more years. The 381 series is a mechanically tilting train, so they're notorious for inducing motion sickness however.
>>1355201>They'll probably be around for a couple of more years.West JR indicates that they will replace them soon enough, the bottom of the PDF file indicates the following:~60 cars to replace the 381 Series from 2022~23~170 cars to replace 113 and 117 Series from 2022~25~110 cars to replace 281, 283, and 681 Series from 2024~27Considering that West JR will be building 271 Series cars to lengthen the current group of 281 Series for Haruka service next year, more 271 Series will probably be built in mid-2020s to replace all the limited express EMUs built in the 90s as indicatedhttps://www.westjr.co.jp/company/business/material/pdf/list_rolling_stock.pdf
Joban Line Ltd Exp service north of Iwaki to resume by the end of this year, Tokyo--Sendai E657. "Super Hitachi" once more?
>>1356296>end of this yearEnd of this *fiscal* year which means Spring 2020.https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2019/20190709.pdfPretty cool since I thought they would split Joban line limited express services between Tokyo and Sendai at Iwaki like they were planning before the earthquake.
>>1356296>>1356330The PDF file also indicates JR East will build additional E657 sets as well. However, isn't it better off for them to split the the services at Iwaki due to logistics and having a 10-car set running between Iwaki and Sendai overkill?
>>1356330Missed the " 度" in " 年度"
>>1356333Probably cheaper to have all the train sets running on a particular service be the same, kinda like how the Hokkaido shinkansen operates 10-car E/H5s.
>>1356296>>1356330>東京都区内と仙台市内を直通で結ぶ特急列車を運転する予定です。So they cancelled their pre-earthquake operation reform plan
>>1357214>cancelled Could be suspended only. Even for reinvigorating the area, ridership may prove to be too low to justify, especially if shorter trainsets aren't used to formation.
>>1357360I believe the pre-earthquake plan was to split the limited express services at Iwaki and move the so it will look like the following:Tokyo - Iwaki: E657Iwaki: Sendai: E653 (not sure if they'll use the 7-car or 4-car sets though)Due to the Tohoku Earthquake nixed the original plan and the E653 sets ended up being moved to Niigata yard for Inaho and Shirayuki services, so I guess JR East pretty much decides to just go "eh" and make it a single service that serves the whole Joban Line which is kinda non-sensical due to ridership concerns
July 11th 10:25, Nagasaki Tunnel, Nagasaki Main Line Uragami - Utsutsugawa stations, Nagasaki City: Kamome 16 (Nagasaki - Hakata) was hit by JRTT boring equipment testing Nagasaki Shinkansen tunneling groundwater dry-up measures from above. Leading car of the 6-car trainset was damaged on the left side.
>>1358928>groundwater dry-up measures* well-drilling
>>1358928What does this mean? They bored into the side of the locomotive?
MLIT is now floating the idea of using dedicated Shinkansen trainsets to move freight in the Seikan Tunnel to reduce bottledeck and reduce transportation times. The concept is that the dedicated freight Shinkansen sets will be taking shipping pallets and have depots in Sapporo and three throughout the Tohoku area. It is kind of flawed in execution though since it'd only have a capacity of around 65 tons when a typical freight train is at around 500 tonshttps://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190710-00010000-doshin-hokFirst two of the six 3-car sets for the JR West 271 Series EMU has been delivered and revealed to the publichttps://news.mynavi.jp/article/20190710-jrwest271/>>1359189The boring machine probably bored too far, drilled through the tunnel and hit the train. We will eventually find out what happened when MLIT releases a full report on the incident.
Rail link from Kansai to Shikoku via Awaji when? Seems a bit crazy that you have to go through Okayama to get to it by rail.
>>1359293>MLIT is now floating the idea of using dedicated Shinkansen trainsets to move freight in the Seikan Tunnel to reduce bottledeck and reduce transportation times. The concept is that the dedicated freight Shinkansen sets will be taking shipping pallets and have depots in Sapporo and three throughout the Tohoku area. It is kind of flawed in execution though since it'd only have a capacity of around 65 tons when a typical freight train is at around 500 tonsIt's not wrong to load pallets into Shinkansen and help express delivery of them, but what's wrong with that is they forget the main objective of the freight shinkansen proposal was to transport those agricultural products and raw materials into and out of Hokkaido. Even if you ignore the fact that most tonnage currently transported by pallet Shinkansen will need to be transported using alternative methods instead due to the capacity restrictions, I am sure farmers won't want to pay the Shinkansen rate to get their products down to Honshu.
>>1359953Probably never since the Akashi Kaikyo bridge wasn't built with space for future rail lines.
News release on the Sotetsu - JR thru service coming in the fall:https://www.sotetsu.co.jp/news_release/pdf/190716_01.pdfhttps://www.sotetsu.co.jp/news_release/pdf/190716_02.pdf-46 round-trips per day-Morning rush hour: 4 services/hr, off-peak: 2~3 services/hr-10-car Sotetsu 12000 series and JR E233 series EMUs-Thru services will operate as ltd express or local trains on the Sotetsu Main line between Nishiya and Ebina-All services stop at Nishiya-New commuter ltd express and commuter express services on Izumino Line (some commuter express services will also operate from Ebina)-Futamatagawa - Shinjuku: 44 min (fastest service)-Yamato - Shibuya 45 min (fastest service)-Ebina - Musashi-Kosugi 36 min (fastest service)This article claims that services will run to Omiya during the morning rush hour while at other times they will terminate at Shinjuku:https://tabiris.com/archives/sotetsujr201907/
I still amazed on how double decker green cars on some consists like E231 able to perform nicely on 1067mm gauge
>>1359953>when Never. >Seems a bit crazy It's sane. There's not that much on Awaji and longitudinal Shikoku that deserves Shinkansen anytime soon. The effort will be on Hokuriku, and Chuo Shinkansen. >have to go through Okayama to get to it by rail.Connect thru the Wakayama-Tokushima ferry.
So the Kyoani attacker seems likely to be a Japanese railway fag?
>>1361983Yes but also a yurifag who watched yuribait shows. Movie that he went murderous over was both hetero and included some train stuff.Probably won't get anything concrete on his motives until media get some info or it goes to trial.
>>1362047But his complain was people watching moe show, thus it doesn't seems like he watched it himself
>>1362050Yurifags don't consider their trash to be "moe".And more tellingly>doesn't watch it himself>went out of his way to watch the pandering movie from a yuri-bait show
>>1362051What sort of shit are you making up?
>>1362052Hibike is a yuri-bait show aimed at /u/ faggots.The movie he went and watched, from that yuribait show, that "destroyed his life" in his own words is where they went hetero.
>>1362055The thing that "destroyed his life" was some fucking train song in the movie, anon
>>1362056He mentions the train song but says the movie ruined his life. It's not really clear (cuz it's literal mentally-ill rambling) if he's being upset about the yurishit or the trainshit.
>>1362055he specifically cites not that, but some sort of train song cover that is in the movie as why he did itI'm here to ask this thread what exactly that could possibly be referring to
>>1362058Learn to read Japanese instead on relying on translations that are mostly bait
>>1362059He isn't as specific as saying the song is "why he did it".Anyway it's this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb2w2m1JmCYWhich the Hibike movie has a cover of with a sax bit by one of the girls who were turned from dyke to hetero.
>>1310469What's their endgame?
>>1362055Just noticed>/u/ is an inversion of /n/Fuck.Well, I hope this blows over fast, and won't deal lasting damage to railway enthusiasts in Japan.
>>1362047I think he did it because supposedly the studio plagiarized something he wrote and put it in one of their songs.
>waaa waaa they stole my special word>better murder 30+ peopleFucking trainspergs
>>1362739It's been confirmed by now that that was bullshit.The culprit actually told the police it was about some "novel" he wrote, that KyoAni supposedly "stole".He told them that before falling unconscious, apparently.
>>1362922it never occurred to him that if he has a case he can approach it in civil court? surely such a thing exists in japan
>>1362975Well, KyoAni has already come out and said, that that "Shinji-kun" has never sent anything in to them or that prize they are handing out.
JR Shikoku's "new" 2700 Series DMU will officially enter service on August 6th with the limited express Uzushio and gradually on Shimanto, Ashizuri, and Nanpu as well. 16 cars (with 2 half regular + Green cars) have been delivered so far and more will be delivered in 2020.https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20190729-868147/>That arson attack somehow managed to almost kill this threadOk.jpg
>>1368318>somehow managed to almost kill this threadNo?
https://twitter.com/kakara/status/1156478684376657921I was surprised by the last point in this (5).I always thought train delays in Japan were no problem at all for employees as long as they prove the train was late handing in the papers given out by staff at the stations (the 遅延証明書).
>>1358928Preliminary report from JRTT suggests that the location they did the boring test was 80 meters off the intended target (and they bored right above the tunnel as a result) since the map they relied on was apparently incorrecthttps://www.jrtt.go.jp/08-2Press/pdf/2019/press20190724-1.pdf>>1370020So what is that about? Did someone get sacked or something?
>>1372625>So what is that about?In Japan there is often talk about "black businesses". Companies that treat their employees like shit. Generally, it turns out, that every Japanese company is "black".So that Twitter user was writing about things that are so blindingly white, that it's already an incident, if they happen.To quote myself:>I always thought train delays in Japan were no problem at all for employees as long as they prove the train was late handing in the papers given out by staff at the stations (the 遅延証明書).After reading a few of the replies, it turns out, he probably meant that they receive their full salary anyway, like if they had arrived on time.Well, it's a fucking salary (and no wage), so that should be normal, right?
>>1310469I don't know why but Japan somehow manages to make a run down and rusted industrial aesthetic look good. God bless their country
Nippon Sharyo celebrated its production of the 4000th Shinkansen car, which coincidentally finishes JR Central's order for its N700A fleet (Car 16 of G50 set). Wonder if Kinki and other companies will also celebrate their production milestones as wellhttp://tetsudo-shimbun.com/article/topic/entry-1806.html
>>1373522I think you'd have more luck in Northern Europe, though.Our women are weak to the "Mediterranean" type.
Does anyone have the video this image supposedly stems from?
>>1376027Thanks a lot. That image doesn't really tell the full story like that video.Are dead-man switches not a thing in Japan?Although one regularly hears about drivers that keep destroying their bed in the sleep, since they have learned hitting the switch (with their feet) in regular intervals, so that it's become a thing like breathing to them.
>>1376205They are. In the 209-2100s the dead man switch is the metal button on the right. I know keisei uses pedal dead man switches and a few others. But mascon switches are what you mostly see.
>>1377482The concept of a Shikoku Shinkansen always feel like a pipe dream since digging tunnels through Awaji and Beppu Bay seems like a colossal waste of money for whatever ridership it'd have>Actually thinking of branching out to KochiW E W
>>1378118Only have been to Kochi once on a day trip, but it seemed in line with Takamatsu, if you consider the scale.Sure, no oversized business hotel tower directly at the station exit, but that cannot be the measure, can it?
>>1378118>>Actually thinking of branching out to Kochi>W E WNo, because Shikoku Odan Shinkansen (together with Chugoku Odan Shinkansen) is more sensible infrastructure-wise and operationally than Shikoku (Chukan) Shinkansen and Sanin (Chukan) Shinkansen.
First special Ltd Exp Mahoroba (doesn't run into Sakurai Line nicknamed "Manyo Mahoroba Line") on Osaka-Higashi Line; returning to Kansai Main Line Yamatoji Line after 2010's 1300th anniversary of Heijo-kyo capital establishment. Nov - early Dec, 1 return per weekend day and holidays.. Non-stop Shin-Osaka -- Nara service (50/51min); timed with Nozomi and Sakura (no Mizuho?) Shinkansen connections. 3-car 287-series, Car 3 non-reserved.
227-1000 series to be fully deployed on Wakayama and Sakurai lines from Sep 30, replacing 105-series.>>1379787
>>1379788>All 56 cars (28 2-car sets) will enter service by September 30thThat's pretty quick since they took delivery last September and only began entering service this fiscal year (March), and it seems that they'll also replace the 117 Series as well
>>1379850>117 SeriesThey have been replacing it gradiallu, only to annouce the date for the entry of the whole fleet replacing 105-series now.
JR West mentioned the possibility of regular Ltd Exp Mahoroba service, big for the lines and Nara.>>1379787
>>1380622* I imagine it too can be extended to Kita-Umeda Station, and fantasy-wise Kansai Airport (although I would take a bus). More choice for JR passes holders.
/jrg/ autis/n/ is leaking into manga now>>>/a/192387789>>>/a/192388024
What does /jrg/ think of JR Kyushu?Their new and refurbished commuter trains seem to be pretty well thought-out and the seats are actually comfortable.
>>1381223Pretty top-tier design, the only problem is, the only material they get creative with is the same light-brown shade of wood.
>>1381225That's usually what happens when you have a single industrial designer (Mitooka Eiji) doing the majority of JR Kyushu's train designs since the early 1990s
>>1310469those bins are spookin me mangfuckin yokai