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>>1310469First for Reiwa-era
what are the best y2k or 2000s japanese train designs?
>>1310655Without a doubt pic related. It's literally peak early 2000s design.
>>1310469>>1310844>Shouwa Taxi>Heisei StationIs there a Reiwa Spaceport?
>>1310849R E I W A M O O N B A S E
>>1310469those bins look like a pair of lonely ghosts
>>1310849The only japanese spaceport/launchpad under construction currently is the one Canon is building in Wakayama-ken.
2020 dia-change: JR Central to have an all N700A fleet running on Tokaido Shinkansen topping 285km/h entirely.
Ah it's the Fukuchiyama accident anniversary again
>>1311284Trying to catch up to the 350 km/h trains next door?
>>1311284By the end of this year this is what JR Central should have in terms of rolling stock for the N700 seriesX Set - 80 (X0 aka the non-revenue service set has been officially removed from service)G Set - 51Considering that they will be building N700S sets starting next year (40 will be built by 2022) I wonder if they will retire some of the older N700 sets>>1312122They'll never catch up to any of the neighbouring countries in terms of operating speed since Tokaido Shinkansen has way too many tight curves for that to happen
>>1312122the piss-poor reliability of chinese built trains means they only really run one or two lines at that speed or else half the fleet would be out of service
>>1312128>Tokaido Shinkansen>tight curvesChoose one.Tighter than other HSR, absolutely, but not remotely near what usually would constitute a "tight curve".Remember, radii can go down as long as the maximum speed goes down as well.
>>1312122Tell me when they are tilting. Literally not an argument: 1. They aren't mindless drones trying to chase top speed pointlessly. 2. This is for Tokaido Shinkansen operation. 3. They are only trying to sell to overseas with N700S's 360km/h trial. The US and Taiwan aren't going to buy PRC HSR rolling stock.
When can train departure time information be connected to official apps and third party apps in real time?
>>1312998I know Japan loves their fax machines, but this is on another level.
>>1313211>The other guy asks for something from the 2000s>Posts something from the 1980sSo what's the point of using those chain link fences (?) to cover the windshield?
>>1312998You mean like Hyperdia? http://www.hyperdia.com
>>1314996Nah, it's mainly for displaying real time changes to train departure time due to delay and disruption, and especially when there are big incident that cause severe delays. Even if situation become worse enough for them to specially list the situation in official app and website, they usually won't have as much details as the display in the station. Not to mention in times when station staff simply choose to put a paper note on the display monitor. Would be nice of train companies online information can sync with whatever station staffs input into the departure time board and also make it allow free form input to conveniently display whatever information station staffs want it to display
>>1314974I think these are the Japanese trains being used in Indonesia or Malaysia, so the grating is probably to protect from rocks or vandalism or something.
>>1315202Didn't Ekikara have that?It has apparently been discontinued last month, though.
>>1315220Are there instances of old Shinkansen sets being exported? I know certain older series were demoted to all-stops service after being replaced, but it seems all the old sets were simply broken up when no longer in use, perhaps out of national pride.
>>1315583Nope, Ekikara was more of an aggregate site of all the train stations' schedules in Japan but it doesn't take any real time changes into consideration>>1315598None of the old Shinkansen sets have ever been exported as far as I know, regardless of MUH PRIDE I don't think exporting those after all those years / mileage on them would be a good idea regardless
>>1315614>>1315598There was an old Shinknsen 0 series train car being exported to Taiwan for checking construction clearance of the Taiwan HSRI believe there was also one of them being acquired by a British museum.
JR Central press releases: Tokaido Shinkansen rolling stock standardized top speed as N700A's 285km/h has enabled an increased Nozomi service frequency of 12tph, and all reaching a journey duration within 2.5h, reducing travel time. N7000 360km/h trial runs: Time: Mid- May to June nighttime Location: Maibara-Kyoto Vehicle type: 16M0T (enabled by standardized carriages/units)
>>1310469I find hankyu the classiest paint scheme of all.
MLIT launches Sagawa's mixed passenger-freight intermodal delivery service with JR Hokkaido's Soya Line local trains and Tenshio Hire's taxis, at Horonobe-cho from their Wakkanai hub.
Osaka Metro World Exo modified medium term plans (2018-2025): Pre-registered facial recognition gates and shops: 2019 trial starts. 2024 deployed to all stations, as part of a long term cardless and cashless goal (could include mobile device EMV in addition to national IC card)Bus Level 3 automation: 2019 internal and on-road testing, 2020 operational in 4 bayshore and island routes, 2024 reaches 20 routes Rail GoA 2.5 (driverless/attended (semi-)automatic train operation, attendant responsible for emergency stops in addition to closing doors) automation: 2024 Chuo Line Awaza -- Yumeshima trial
>>1317155>1時間あたり最大17本の運転が可能となる。>17 tphIs that the highest frequency among high speed railways in the world?
>>1317838>Using taxi for the last mile reachlel
>>1317931Not just cardless and cashlesss but they also want to make it gateless in the futureI guess that will probably be similar to those traveler temperature detector at various border check facilities around the world?
Mobile phone coverage within Seikan tunnel now enabled.
>>1318089I don't approve of all facial recognition for barrier-less gates. Surely mobile device NFC can enable open gate automatic fare collection, like far-field active RFID in open-road tolling.
>>1318206Can't run existing NFC with farfield easily due to tag density (every card/phone in field radius will respond, and separating is a major pain or impossible). There are reasons why only active tags are used for such places (active protocol control, negotiation, greater bandwidth).But, if you retired the existing NFC card fleet, and assumed powered/active tags (so phone or those new NFC cards with the ginourmous capacitor in the center of the coil), maybe.But it looks like the government wants active facial recognition, so there's no escape.
>JR Hokkaido Mid-term operation plan to 2023Can they survive till then?
>>1310469>Image powered by Bunshun
>>1318739Abe bucksJR Hokkaido is still owned by the government because no private party would ever buy it
>>1319708If they cannot financially sustain themselves and become JNR Hokkaido, that won't count as survive either
>>1319758JR Hokkaido is mou shindeiru
>>1318739>>1320104>Still worrying about long-term prospects when they are still losing money right now (and possibly in the near future)kekhttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190426_KO_kessannsashikae.pdfAlso they also had a "long-term" plan that they'll be fully independent (so privatized) and profitable by 2031 aka when the Hokkaido Shinkansen is finally completed, but I don't think that's happeninghttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190409_KO_plan.pdf
>>1310469why is japan the most aesthetic country?
>>1321789They have government support in the next two or three years so they should still be able to stand for a while more
>>1321789>Also they also had a "long-term" plan that they'll be fully independent (so privatized) and profitable by 2031 aka when the Hokkaido Shinkansen is finally completed, but I don't think that's happeningFinancial performance of the line will be indicative to America if they still don't have a HSR by the time, given Hokkaido's population density
>>1321823I'd say that's most because you don't see "their" aesthetics in real-life.It's different from the Western way of designing shit.They'd probably feel similarly about our towns and cities. (If they weren't littered with graffiti, trash, garbage made by art majors, and homeless people.)
The best part comes at 16:30! (Woosh!!) I’m at one of my favorite train spotting spots in Tokyo!Between Two Moving Trains in Tokyo? | Yurakucho JR Stationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNHesr8P1Ak
京王線 朝ラッシュ時の運行略図https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6_Gkmx8YGI近鉄電車 路線網の歴史(グループ会社線を含む)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nsIUizIiJk
Well I guess Odakyu is a bunch of rebel flag bro truck driving dumbdumds now since they draw inspiration from brotrucks for new EMU design. Can't say I'm a fan of the LED lightbar.
>>1324346Here is the photo.
>>1324347Also Keisei is also having new rolling stock. Looks like the Toei 5500 but even worse. Also Shin-keisei is getting the same trains just painted pink
>>1324348Also Tobu is also introducing the 70090 which is the equivalent to the 50090 on the Tojo line.
Shinkansen general when?
It seems that with the eventual connection of Toyama Light Rail (north side) and Toyama Tram (south side) at Toyama Station in 2020, Toyama Regional Railway who owns the city's tram network will acquire Toyama Light Rail on Feb 22nd, 2020https://news.mynavi.jp/article/railwaynews-171/
>>1325150>Toyama Light RailBased already for pic related.
So when they launch the Tokyo LRT within this fiscal year, it will not have its own right of way on most roads?
>>1324634No need really. Also the 800 series is getting a Mickey mouse livery for whatever reason.
JR East announced that they will increase the operating speed of Joetsu Shinkansen (Omiya ~ Niigata) from 240 km/h to 275 km/h, work will commence this year and lasts until 2023 and the switch to E7 Series Shinkansen sets will complete by 2022https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2019/20190504.pdf
Anybody got any good Jap steam photos? Maybe some mining narrow gauge?
JR East just announced the new E261 series. These are going to be running on the super odoriko service I believe.
>>1328548The announcement was made a while ago regarding the E261 Series EMU will replace the 251 Series EMU and Super View Odoriko service in 2020, the new service will be called Saphir Odoriko and runs between Tokyo/Shinjuko to Izu Shimoda. 2 8-car sets will be built and it will be Green Class only.
>>1328504>lasts until 2023Is this implying they will go back to the slower speed later?
>>1328599I guess I didn't word it properly, the work that needs to be done to increase the speed (surveying and soundproofing) will last until 2023. I would assume the speed increase will be pending on government approval as well
If you were orchestrating the breakup of JNR, how would you have divided the country up between rail companies?
>>1328605Why break it up at all?What gain was there to be made in the first place?
>>1328613The communist labor union will also be forced to break up in the process
>>1328605>>1328715Well, then give each prefecture its own JR.
>here's your new Shinkansen bro
Why is the Shinkansen so ridiculously expensive compared to other trains?
>>1329100It's not that much more expensive than limited expresses.
>>1329100The difference isn't that high IIRC (as long as you aren't comparing it to Seishun 18).The problem is rather that in Japan rail is expensive to begin with.You get something worth that money in return, though, so no one is complaining.I doubt you'll find a place in the West where the base fare per kilometer is remotely as high as in Japan.If it wasn't for the JapanRailPass, I'm not sure I'd primarily rely on rail when traveling Japan.Fucking planes are cheaper.
JR Hokkaido to install noise barrier for JPY12B to raise Hokkaido section of Shinkansen top speed to 320km/h.JR East Chuo Line Rapid and Ome Line interrunning section toilets to be introduced on in-bound Car 4 end from May 27.
JR Hokkaido increasing fares starting October this year. Note that this isn't just because the consumption tax is increasing but also because the company is trying to increase revenue as well. Pretty big impact for shorter distance tickets since the fare increase is proportionally bigger (1~3km, price increases from 170 to 200 yen; 7~10km, 220 to 290 yen; 11~15km, 260 to 340 yen). However, they are implementing special fare rules for tickets for journeys less than 100km between certain stations to remain competitive with alternate modes of transportation. The extra charge for the airport branch of the Chitose line is going to drop from 140 yen to 20 yen. All fare changes are subject to approval by MLIT and are not final.http://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190510_KO_Revision.pdfhttp://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/CM/Info/press/pdf/20190510_KO_Revision2.pdf
>>1329554wow, retarded autismNever thought I'd see it
>>1329554>JR Chibabased and peanutpilled
>>1329554>JR SaikaiWasn't JR Hokkaidou last, if you were to rank the JRs?
>>1329554for what purpose?
>>1329554>Separating San'in and San'yoWould be difficult to provide convenient&efficient In-yo connection?>Ito peninsula and southern Ito islands belong to JR Tokaiwhy?
>>1329908The purpose of retarded autism>>1329564Yeah me too (that's why I made the image).>>1329813It would be 西海旅客鉄道>>1329573Had that because of the dourou>>1330288>In-yoNo I don't think anything would change>IzunokuniI hate Tokyu
>>1330432>I hate TokyuAbsolutely based.
>>1330432>西海Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks.I didn't make the connection to/with JR Tokai.Although, wouldn't it be more appropriate to read that "Seikai"?That's also a homonym, but one without such negative connotations.
>>1330575>Although, wouldn't it be more appropriate to read that "Seikai"?No, as I took it from the Saikaidou (西海道) of the Gokishichido system.By the way don't take my posts seriously it's embarassing...
>>1330582Don't worry, I'm not taking it seriously, but that seemed like an interesting point to 突っ込み at, and maybe learn something.And I did. I didn't know about Gokishichidou before your post. Thank You!In Japanese you can decide the reading of proper nouns within the limits of all available readings for the characters (see DQN names etc.), and a potential misunderstandings as 正解 seems preferable over being mistaken as 最下位.
Wonder which foreign company Kintetsu has made agreements with to develop their third rail contact shoe & pantograph dual system EMU for Yumeshima--Nara through service on Chuo Line.
>>1328959Unless they have some sort of measure against snow buildup, that placement for the headlights seems to be a bad idea>>1331827The obvious plot twist is that Kintetsu will end up building them themselves anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5opcokV3ncKagoshima tram wenr multi-track drifting at a switch.
Tozai line of Tokyo Metro suck.Why the fuck with the 200% congestion every morning rush hour?
>>1333012It's supposed to be the busiest. Otemachi is also being redeveloped these years. More of a Sobu corridor problem. Will be alleviated by Sobu-Keiyo through line and Keiyo Line common section quadrupling, with some relief further inwards from Yurakucho Line Tokyo Line 8-11 branch extension. For some historical background: Before Narita Shinkansen failed, there was a Keiyo-Yurakucho line through service concept floating around. Toei Shinjuku Line was devised to extend towards Hokuso Line had Chiba New Town didn't collapse, although how much this would divert Musashino and Noda lines may be doubious. Noda Line had a Tozai Line interrunning branch studied.
What is with the crazy overcrowding on some Japanese trains? How do you even get off in amongst so many people?
>>1333048Japs are really good at pushing on the train. I got shoved into a train somewhere in Tokyo before, but it was a nice experience. Everyone was very gentle.People in Taiwan don't do that. Even when there are open gangways, the middles and ends of the carriages away from the doors will be empty because people are afraid that they won't be able to get off at their stop.I think the difference is that in Japan people are just more aware of their surroundings and will let people off if they realize someone wants to move. People will step out of the carriage at stops for others to get off. It's very cordial.
>>1333048>What is with the crazy overcrowding on some Japanese trains?That's getting a bit outdated. Against the decade-old backdrop of reurbanization/recentralization and reducing commute distance, some lines has been quadrupled (eg Odakyu) or diverted (eg Ueno-Tokyo Line, which also allowed an increase in frequency), and there's aging population with reducing birth rate to come. Crowdedness is at its lowest level, and decreasing in general. Take your pic's Joban Rapid Line as an example, it's at 157% (32th in Tokyo) in 2017, dropped 10%pt every 5 years in the past decade. Joban Local Line is at slightly lower levels too. The former has been benefited by Ueno-Tokyo Line, and the latter will have the CBTC-Radio moving block ATACS installed in the near future. Long term, the parallel Tsukuba Express line is eventually going to be extended to Tokyo, Ginza, and the Seafront. It, and he feeder Musashino and Noda Line will be diverted by Sobu-Keiyo-Rinkai Line interconnection and Yurakucho-Hanzonmon Line extension >>1333027. >How do you even get off in amongst so many people?Apathetically.
Seems like even BRT will be too costly for Tadami line and JR East want to turn that into a simple road with bus running on it instead?
>>1333371I thought JR East is reopening the line, since Fukushima prefecture agreed to pay for repairs and take ownership of the line afterwards.
>>1333075Isn't 100% capacity still pretty tightly packed though?
>>1333075>Crowdedness is at its lowest level>>1333543>capacity The "capacity" doesn't mean what you think. The standard is apparenty 0.35m^2/pax=2.86pax/m^3, very comfortable and relaxed. The global standard is 3~4pax/m^2, with crush load at 4~6pax/m^2, safety limit at >=7pax/m^2.
>>1332506Not like they actually need the headlights anyway.
>>1333563>* global service standard >* with comfortable crush load at 5~6pax/m^2>* discomfort limit at >=7pax/m^2Need to check safety limit.
>>1333563>very comfortable and relaxed* Don't forget this is for Japanese. A very high expectation in ride quality even for Asians when you consider average crowdedness rate is at 120~130% in Nagoya and Osaka. Tokyo aims for <150% overall, and <180% as a bar to individual lines.
>>1333075>>1333543>>1333563>>1333565>>1333567I have been talking with Japanese from all over the country (including Tokyo/Kanto) about the crowdedness on trains, and they all say they have NEVER experienced those pushers we see webms of all the time.So that's probably an extreme situation even by Japanese standards.
>>1333583>from all over the countryIsn't it pretty much common knowledge that it only happens inside the Tokyo area?I don't think anyone was thinking that they're pushing people on to other trains.
>>1333584see>including Tokyo/KantoActually mostly. It's by far not as severe as in, say, France, but in their perception almost anything but Kanto is 田舎.Which, looking at pic related, almost seems plausible.
>>1333587As a % though how much was from Tokyo specifically?
>>1333589How does that matter?Have asked 6 people from the area so far, but if it actually was a regular thing even a single person from Tokyo denying it should not happen, and all of them have done it so far.It obviously does happen - otherwise those videos wouldn't exist -, but it's probably by far not as prevalent as many of us make it out to be.Usually being able to sit down doesn't appear to be a major plus in their eyes anyway.They are REALLY annoyed about railway in the West. Punctuality and frequency seem ridiculously bad to them. They even badmouth lines that I'd perceive as comparatively good. Which is great, I love Japanese stating their actual opinion instead of attempting to keep a straight face, while saying shit they don't actually think.
>>1333594All I'm trying to say is that the way you are making your argument is completely flawed.You're practically dismissing the problem of overcrowding with "well I spoke to some people and they said it doesn't happen".You aren't accounting for all like variables, like location (which I already mentioned) and what time they travel.
>>1333597I'm not dismissing it, I'm saying it's probably not as big of a problem as we make it out to be.It is definitely a problem, but probably limited to extremely well-defined line sections and time periods. It's not something you'll certainly experience, if you ride a train in Tokyo in the morning rush hour.I can also speak from experience on that. Riding the Yamanote and Chuo Line on a workday morning with luggage isn't much of a problem. Obviously wouldn't recommend it, though. Avoid it, if you can, or use a Ltd.Exp., if available, but if it cannot be avoided, it should work out. At least it did for me.
>>1333512Ah right, to be open in FY2021, the report I was reading was outdated
>>1333565I thought it would become a safety hazard when the load factor reached 300-350%?
JR Hokkaido upgrading Hakodate-Sapporo shinkansen route from 260kmph to 320kmph with their own money, could reduce travel time by 5 minutes
>>1333898Cost will be 12 Billion Yen, JR Hokkaido want some support from National government, national government say it would need JR Hokkaido improve their situation by the end of next fiscal year
Why not let JR Freight operate railroads that are parallel to Shinkansen? That way they can be optimized for Freight transportation while still maintaining certain degree of localized regional railway transportation ability like Amtrak
>>1333898>100 million USD to save 5 minuteswhy tho
>>1334224100 Million USD is still just a minor percent of the total project cost.And you need to add speed improvement from different sections together in order to reach a significant overall speed increase. JR East have also planned various other speed increase projects along the Tohoku Shinkansen, and then there's also plan to increase the Seikan tunnel speed, all these factors combined together would mean the trip time from Tokyo to Sapporo can be reduced to near 4.5 hours mark, which could be somewhat competitive given the New Chitose airport is pretty far away from Sapporo. JR Hokkaido estimate is that if all these projects can be done then the volume of passengers it can attract on the Tokyo-Sapporo route can be three folded, which could result in 14 Billion Yen additional revenue.Also, 320km/h between Shin Hakodate Hokuto and Sapporo will also put the journey time of nonstop trains between the two cities down to within 1-hour mark, which they hoped to use this travel tine to dominate the market entirely.
>>1334215>operateWhat does that suppose to mean? Those are third sector, and JR Freight is already a Type 2 Railway Operator.
>>1334356As in let them own and maintain those tracks instead of leaving it to local thord sector companies
Are there really cities in Japan with train operations ceasing at 20:00? Starting at 7:40 would also be really late.
Do they keep track of suicides by train? How many so far this year?
>>1335281Watanuki has a video on both.The latest first train in Japan (11:47 a.m.):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw9YsClFfn0The earliest last train in japan (6:47 a.m.):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpXHJazQSToSeems indeed weird, though. Where does that anime take place?
>>1335296It's the west side of Tokyo as the rolling stock shown in the show is pretty close to a Tokyo Metro 10000 series.
>>1335281I think that says 定(期?)券うりば, so it would be the ticket office, not the station itself.
Okinawa Yuirail extension to open in October this year.
One off special night train service between Kumamoto and Osaka announced.Salon Car Meisei, to be operated by Salon Car Naniwa trainSchedule:August 23: Osaka 16:18 - Kumamoto 11:17 (+1)August 25: Hakata 16:00 - Osaka 06:06 (+1)Group travel only, so you would need to purchase group tour via Japanese travel agencies if you want tp use the train.
>>1335946*There are also many other special train plans for Kumamoto this summer but all of them are available via travel agency only
>>1335281No, use your eyeballs and brain instead of looking at the subtitles.
Yamanashi governor Nagasaki Kotaro studies Mt Fuji (funicular?) railway (Kawaguchiko-machi -- Go-gome) for two years. https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/05/308ed3308788-governor-looks-to-draw-up-mt-fuji-railway-plan-in-2-yrs.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmQ3QPqFX4Q
Okinawa Monorail to accept the Suica-led National IC Card Interoperate Service Network in spring 2020. >>1335943