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Igor Fyodorovich Stravinsky edition


>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #8. Deutsche Grammophon stuff. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy Folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Book Folder #1. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>Book Folder #2. Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
>Book Folder #3. A guide to the piano music
https://mega.nz/#F!1xJgVSLA!i2eLakjehx5DY8qYUzS0Zg

Having folders pertaining to specific ethnicities is highly reactionary!

Previous edition
>>86435550
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Petzold
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romantic era sucks
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>>86482251

your mama sucks on my fat cock
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>>86482258
just trying to bump the thread. looks like it worked (-:
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>>86482374

Eh. It'll probably end up dying since most posters here are asleep given that they have jobs in the morning unlike the rest of the degenerates on this board
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I'm trying to get into Classical again, so farv I've liked some works by: Bach, Stravinsky, Mahler, Bartok and Tchaikovsky. Any rec?
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>>86482405
stop listening to mahler and tchaik, listen to more of the rest
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I'm gonna post this anecdote of Dallapiccola meeting Webern
Any 20th pseuds in?
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>>86482419
Why? Mahler and Bach have been my favs so far
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>>86482427
>mystic short man
Kekel
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>>86482450
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>>86482442
because mowlah is boring melodramatic horseshit besides symphonies 1 and 9
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>>86482467
End
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>>86482479
And now Webern for starting the day
In the words of Webern
"""were you impressed by the sound also?"""
Op26
https://youtu.be/0RFeI9SpUI8
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>>86482405

Don't listen to

>>86482419

Keep listening to who you like. Listen to Beethoven's piano sonatas.
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for the guy in the last thread asking for choral ussr recordings, my favorites are the recordings of rachmaninov's vespers with alexander sveshnikov and the ussr russian academic chorus and also the one of the bells with kirill kondrashin. one cool thing about russian chorals in the ussr (and in a more modern sense) is that their bass sections are consistently stellar, at least as far as i've heard they're completely outstanding
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>>86482470
What a terrible opinion. Mahler is, likely, the greatest instrumental composer of his day.
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>>86482708
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU PLEB GOD I WISH I WAS A MOD SO I COULD BAN YOU
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>>86482701

but how can a vespers recording from the ussr ever truly be good
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>>86482405
Grieg, Janacek, Schoenberg, Schnittke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-DZWoU52E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV6GI3ROj8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJi_rb9D8I4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ZMnLENKVs
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>>86482879
are you retarded?
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>>86482885
>Schnittke
hows life treating you poly. any luck on that symphony?
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>>86482609
>were you impressed by the sound also?
I dont follow, was he talking about his orchestration or what?
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>>86482879
i was surprised it got produced but it's easily the best i've heard. favorite off of the recording, wait for the fortissimo: https://youtu.be/rWKA7i_JJ2M?t=1318
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>>86482946
shit forgot timestamp https://youtu.be/rWKA7i_JJ2M?t=1318
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>>86482938
I think it was more about the well known fixations in timbre Webern had in his late period
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>>86482893
Think they were Just assuming that Vespers was exclusively a Catholic thing.
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>>86482470
>boring melodramatic horseshit
Great impressions and non-arguments, faggot.
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>>86483189
KEK
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>>86482642
>>86482885
Thanks, actually I was into Schoenberg a couple years ago
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>>86483216
C U C K**
Fucking gookmoot with his word filters
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>>86481196
FUCKING SHITHEAD WHY YOU DELETED THE JEWISH FOLDER. GO FUCK YOURSELF
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>>86483373
Seething
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>>86483400
Do you think is funny to delete content from the lasts OP's files? Faggot?
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>>86483179

Nah I was just thinkin that it's weird the USSR would promote such an openly religious composition by a white Russian emigre
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>>86483587
Ethnic folders are reactionary and needlessly divisive. Besides, nothing really makes Mahler or Mendelssohn Jewish... they are composers in the Austro-German tradition

Worthless to categorize them as Jewish especially given they both converted too
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>>86482913
Symphony long finished anon - Entire score was finished by the end of January. Submitted it to NZSO SOUNZ readings, so may get a performance / recording of it this year if I'm lucky.

Currently writing a piano suite, first 2 movements done, working on the 3rd.
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>>86483688
put your trip back on i miss you poly
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>>86483675
>Ethnic folders are reactionary and needlessly divisive
Not an argument fag. Nobody has been discriminated or damaged by posting a folder with some jewish composers
>they are composers in the Austro-German tradition
And you know that it is another another ethnicity by itself right?
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>>86483717
Ok when you make the general you can readd it, I think it's stupid though
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>>86483705
There's no need of tripfags in /Classical/ you should go back to discord, Reddit or Talkclassical.
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>>86483750
this
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>>86483750
There's a classical discord?
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>>86483750
sorry anon. i just want to know my /classical/ bros are doing alright
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An absolute cringe-fest
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Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP0Lj41Kjno
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*ahem*
Petzold
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Pfitzner
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>>86482708
redpilled
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>>86483260
That's not what Berg looks like at all. Here's a picture of Berg.
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>>86482701
That was me. Please accept my most sincere appreciation.
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>>86481196
>mfw Stravinsky attitude suddenly made sense as soon as I discovered he had a big dick
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Post your favorite beat. Here is mine. :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBRH4aU9Hjg
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Today is telemann's anniversary, say something nice to him
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>>86489187
F
https://youtu.be/ufGl19HiAC0
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>>86489187
F
https://youtu.be/vQatlvFvGdM
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>>86489187
Well he sucks. No let me try again. His music is turgid and boring. Ah shit. One last try. The most dry powdered wig fluff I've ever heard (literally wrote something called Table Music). Nope, guess I can't do it after all.
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>>86481196
Hey /classical/, I'm about to marathon the fuck out of Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns. What can I expect?
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>>86489302
Mediocre romantic music with impressionist tendencies.
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>>86489187
F
https://youtu.be/aRLrqIjy9qA
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>>86489302
The music of a really creative musician fucked up by his own unnecessary academic constraints (and some good things here and there, not gonna lie)
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>>86489317
>Mediocre
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>>86489379
How the fuck is Saint Saens exceptional?
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>>86489368
explain? also are you saying most of it isn't worth it?
>>86489317
what's mediocre about him?
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>>86489302
An academic cringefest, respecting his third symphony which is a very respectable romantic work but sad to see that was the top of his creative power
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>>86489408
>what's mediocre about him

Nothing in particular (which is kind of the point ;^)
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>>86489396
>please enjoy a free serving of False Dichotomy® >>86489438
>maybe flush it down with some Goalpost Moving®??
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>>86489467
Mediocre just means unexceptional. A C-lister like Saint Saens is a perfect example of an unexceptional composer.
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>>86489408
It could be worth it, it depends on your taste. My remark was more meta-musical than about his actual music.
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>>86489482
Saint-Saens is at least a B-lister
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>>86489502
Lmao no way
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>>86489502
Okay fair enough. So is Johann Strauss and surely we can agree that he is unexceptional. I suppose Saint Saens would have more of his own niche if it weren't for Faure and Franck. Between those two Saint Saens doesn't really do anything too distinguishable.
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>>86489482
>Mediocre just means unexceptional
That doesn't solve the sudden change in argument. You went from "he's mediocre" to "he's not particularly mediocre, 'that's the point' hurr hurr"
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lol why does this general hate the french so much
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>>86489482
I bet you think Brahms is a "C-lister" too
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>>86489885
No, Brahms is a B-lister. But these lists have nothing to do with quality of music, just how well known the composer is known by name. In the case of Brahms he SHOULD be an A-lister
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>>86490042
pretty sure that if we're going by "well known name", Brahms is one of the most A-list A-listers ever
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Saint-Saëns was one of the most prodigiously talented musicians of his or any other era.
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>>86490077
And undeservedly so
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Glazunov
https://youtu.be/jq8oxIgyp8E
At 20:30 you can see the sheer envy of another female violinist
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The B-list is the highest rated list in classical music: Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Bruckner
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>>86490077
nah only Bach, Mozart, Vivaldi and Beethoven are A-listers.
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>>86490108
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>>86490161
No, those are just the A-listiest of the A-listers, but Brahms is still an A-lister, just not the A-listiest of the A-listers
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>>86490194
maybe you are right.
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Is there any edgy or abrasive classical?
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>>86490231
What a stupid question, almost all of it is edgy and abrasive and unapologetically so by the 1940s.
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>>86490231
yeah it's called post-modernism
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>>86489565
>So is Johann Strauss and surely we can agree that he is unexceptional
I don't agree on that. Only because his melodies are popular doesn't mean they aren't sophisticated. To come up with a melody like Blue Danube which sounds like it has always existed and didnt need to get invented is a blessing only a few composers have. Look at Tschaikovsky who tried to do so and mostly failed.

Tl;dr J. Strauß is great
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>>86490337
Shut up Hans, you gaynigger.
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>>86490252
>>86490265
gibe more specific recs pls and be patient I have autism
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>>86490389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3BlFZWJNA
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>>86490389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2vX8JXfKEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV5HnpkgCBw

Its really easy to find this kind of music but I cannot, in all good conscience recommend a great deal of it.
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>>86490431
>>86490445
thanks
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Have you guys seen this music video


https://youtu.be/1g1drZ1j-C0
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>Beethoven had no illusions about its merits, and responded to similar criticism in his own time: "What I shit is better than anything you could ever think up!"
Based
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>>86490667
what was the piece?
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>>86490601
Fuck off Jakeyboy
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>>86490679
Wellington's Victory
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>>86490734
Even I've made better music than Wellington's Victory and I fucking suck.
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>>86490850
No, you haven't (but yes, you do)
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>>86490850
post your music
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>>86490875
You know my music ;^)
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>>86490850
Considering how shitty it is that's not an accomplishment
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>>86490905
That's my point exactly. I'm not saying I can hold a candle to Beethoven, not even something as unremarkable as his 2nd symphony but Wellington is so fucking bad that I wonder what toilet hooch he was drinking at the time to even think it was a good idea.
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>>86490894
Fuck off Hill.
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>>86490960
you still can't do better, or even good at all
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top ten Saint-Saëns compositions GO:
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>>86491081
shut up, you bitter asshole.
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>>86491143
I might be a bitter asshole, but I'm right
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>>86491110
1.
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10. ur mom
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>>86491161
No you aren't. With hard work anyone can become at least good at whatever they set their mind to. Greatness might be reserved for those with innate talent but its not necessary to be great to enjoy doing something. Also Bruckner didn't compose anything until he was 37. Rautavaara had no musical training of any kind until he was 17. Stop being a jerk.
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>>86491252
Based optimist anon
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>>86491252
None of that changes the fact that >>86490960 is utter shit and should probably die
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>>86491522
(literally) No u
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Skryabin/Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ii-nIjmDU
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>>86491588
literally nonsense post
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>>86491602
How is it nonsense? You told me to kill myself and now I am telling you to kill yourself.
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>>86491622
Firstly, I said you should die -I didn't specify how. Secondly, the relevant bit is the first one. Stop fixating on mere death wishes, you ponce
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Scriabin/Gould
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT2FXqUJLls
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>>86491655
by saying "no u", I meant the whole thing, both that you were utter shit and should die (presumably by your own hand).
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>>86491110
I don't know his catalogue well enough to fill out a list, but the Clarinet and Oboe Sonatas have to be up there
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>>86491744
are you going to die away from here or what?
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>>86491895
I'm not going anywhere, jizzface.
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>>86492056
fucking amazing, you can't even do that, you worthless shitstain, I don't even know why I'm surprised
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>>86492197
literally kys yourself
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>>86489302
unironically some of the best music of the period/country in pretty much all genres

a crying shame that only two or three of his several operas have been recorded
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>>86492216
Don’t worry, I will soon rip in peace
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>>86481196
What classical music to listen to, /mu/?
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>>86492337
Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns
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>>86490231
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HilGthRhwP8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sykB4znEk2Q
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>>86489187
Telemann is based af

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D-y2kJU0lg
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>>86492424

>>86490431
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>>86492424
>Ferneyhough
Wow, what a hack
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>>86492577

>Ferneyhough is a hack

I bet you like Feldman you fucking pleb
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>>86492605
>defending new complexity
you absolute tourist
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>>86492577
How is he a hack?
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>>86492611
have you watched the video
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>>86492610
Wouldn't the tourist be the one dissing Ferneyhough?

>I can't understand this
>therefor bad
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>>86492634
Of course, I posted it. I've watched it 3 or 4 times, as well as listening to, and enjoying many Ferneyhough pieces.

It seems you are the tourist anon - don't expect to 'get' Ferneyhough after watching one video.
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>>86492635

This

>>86492660

This

>>86492610

I have more classical training than you've been alive you fucking underage pleb
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>>86492635
>>86492660
Uncompelling pseud wank that's not one step above "experimental" popular music. There isn't much to "understand" when it comes to tourist-tier "classical"
>>86492683
Sure you do
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Camille Saint-Saëns
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>>86492696
>Uncompelling
for you (a pleb who only just discovered him, and probably can't into 20th century music)

>pseud
Spent his whole life learning about and innovating composition, far from Pseud. Pseud is your position, attempting to judge him from a position of ignorance.

>There isn't much to "understand"
There is a lot. You will probably never dig deep enough to get there though.

>tourist-tier "classical"
not sure where this meme comes from, but wouldn't that be music like Pachelbel's canon and Ravel's bolero?
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>>86492782
>only just discovered him, and probably can't into 20th century music
both wrong
>Spent his whole life learning
Being learned doesn't save you from being a pseud composer
>You will probably never dig deep enough
Nice argument
>not sure where this meme comes from
/metal/, I'm afraid
>wouldn't that be music like Pachelbel's canon and Ravel's bolero?
not when it comes to /classical/. Pleb/entry-level doesn't immediately = tourist
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>>86490337
This
Pseuds will never understand
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>>86492815
>/metal/
That explains it. Perhaps you should return there?
I thought /metal/ posters would have a bit more of an open mind when it comes to unusual and aggressive music, I guess I was wrong.
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>>86492742
Charles-Camille Saint-Saëns
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>>86492885
>not liking pseud complexity means being narrow-minded
oh the Ironee
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>>86492885
>I was wrong.
No, you still are, no worries
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>>86492932
>>86492961
Not liking Ferneyhough is a fairly common position for plebs. We've had this discussion multiple times over the years here in /classical/
We've even had the same discussion with Schoenberg and the basic Second Viennese composers. Anything that people can't get on the first listen tends to cause problems for people with small minds.

I don't really care if you like Ferneyhough or not - I love him, as do many professional composers and performers with an interest in 20th century music.

He certainly isn't entry level though, you want to be very comfortable with Schoenberg, Webern, then Bartok, Penderecki, Stockhausen, Berio and Carter (in that order) before going anywhere near Ferneyhough.
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>>86493055
>you want to be very comfortable with Schoenberg, Webern, then Bartok, Penderecki, Stockhausen, Berio and Carter (in that order) before going anywhere near Ferneyhough.
I don't care for carter, though I'm very comfortable with everyone else on that list, and of course others from the XXth century
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One thing that /classical/ underrates is technicality. I presume its because the proportion of people who are actually classical musicians here is fairly low

Certain pieces have more artistic merit because of the technical feat they represent, in my opinion. For instance, Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto isn't very innovative or experimental, but it is quite a good showpiece for talented violinists. To me, it represents the efforts of so many Russian-Jewish youngsters who, as Milstein put it, wanted to be the "messiahs" of violin. The technicality it demands represents a unique human condition. Very neat stuff
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>One thing that /classical/ underrates is technicality.
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>>86493663

Well I mean, we talk about composers a lot, but performers only infrequently. In classical musician circles people tend to devote a lot of attention to performers and recordings. This place is kind of more of a constant shit flinging session about who is pleb and who is patrician among composers
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>>86493646
Are you paragraphautist? I miss you :3
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>>86493704
One could argue that discussing composers can be more technical than discussing performers if done properly
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>>86493646
I rate it fine but you're correct in that most people here don't really know how difficult certain pieces can be to perform. Not just the notes, of course.
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>>86490960
>unremarkable
>the second symphony
Bitch delete that right now
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>>86492886
there you have it, I listened to Samson et Dalila. Here's the Bacchanal. I'm not a fan of Jimmy, but it's really good. Maybe it's the ballet, that forces conductors to play a regular tempo and not to fuck around with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdpmTuxzs3Q
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Petzold
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>>86494706
did you expect any sense or taste from someone implying they can do at least as good as Beethoven's worst
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>>86494864
>Bacchanal
More like Bach-anal lmao
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>>86496010
I cant do as well as Bach or Mozarts worst but Beethoven set the bar so low literally anyone could do better.
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>>86493139
>out of all these names he singles out Carter
>not Berio
>not Stockhausen
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>>86497409
FUCK Off Hill (you) are the most pathetic /classical/ poster
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>>86497484
No, I am not Hans. I single-handedly keep /classical/ afloat.
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>>86497841
Bullshit. Prepare to have your dreams crushed forever.

https://www.strawpoll.me/17605100
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>>86498030
Pfffft, like I'm going to let some 4chan jagoffs discourage me from spending my free time how I want. At least its a better use of time than your practice of the 8 hour fap session.
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Still sad about Gielen bros ;_;
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Rameau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQCRvXXcFY
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Weber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZT81GmyqM
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Guys, should I subscribe to Jstor to read musical analysis papers?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2foPnq6XK3M

10/10
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>>86499805
Do you have any specific articles you really want to read?
If you're a Boomer you should just go ahead with it, personally as a young common man i really wouldn't pay for that kinda stuff
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>>86500158
"Octatonicism in The Serial Works of Dallapiccola" is the latest jewel to seduce me from that Jewey site.
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One time I said to my dad that one of the movements of Mendelssohn's Scottish Symphony reminded me of The Ants Go Marching. And he said "Those are some pretty ponderous ants."

Fuck that guy
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>>86500180
Have you read this book i posted>>86482427
""The Music of Luigi Dallapiccola ""
This can get pretty technical about Dallapiccola's procedures, i dont know if it talks about the use of that scale though because i didn't read it all lmao i dont like reading
This is for free just google it and you will find the book
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX8tvEa-p8g
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Baroque: soul
Classical: soulless
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Ta Ta Ta Taaan
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Dallapiccola

https://youtu.be/T7E-o1zz9-M

Another Cantata with Spanish text
Basado
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Santiago de Murcia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ru27xynh8
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How wholesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHQ2ybTejU
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I dont usually like the Reddit Gooks but this was good because they called out boomer Beato

https://youtu.be/WaOySImzXEQ
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sup nigguhs, please keep your firetruckers on a leash >>>/lit/12761416
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Mompou
https://youtu.be/WvmIBbulwMM
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Ok this may be a bit of a stupid question but it seems like you guys (and pretty much everywhere else) only ever talk about the 100 or so same composers. What obscure composers are worth checking out, or should I not even bother and just stick with the greats?
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>>86505529
Robert Fayrfax, Lera Auerbach, Lili Boulanger, Anton Arensky, Anton Reicha, Froberger, Dieupart, Anthony Ritche, Morales, John Psathas.

Kinda depends what you're familiar with - not many people know the Renaissance greats, so some of them might be considered obscure, while early music specialists probably wouldn't think they were, but those people probably wouldn't have heard of contemporary composers.
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>>86505529
The list of great composers as you called them is the result of centuries of natural selection. If they are well-known is because they were basically the best of their time. There are a lot of good (or even great) lesser known composers, if you are interested you might wat to take a look at this forum:
http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php
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>>86505578
Social darwinists be gone
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>>86505529
Classical music is full of shit because mots of anything is shit. The 100 or so relevant composers are the ones worth talking about, most of the rest are obscure for a reason.
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>>86505529
listen to geirr tveitt, the eternally underrated norwegian
>inb4 hurrrr stop shilling this composer
no fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7MTZP0jAxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9079w0iJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaKcBrlLDtg
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>>86505578
>erik satie was the best of his time
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>>86505578
Nice forum. I like how most posters there are calling Alma Deutscher out as hack.
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Jón Leifs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA40UkPhgBw
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A medieval classical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1y0aj43B8U
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>>86506576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyzpYmszYZ4
nothing compared to german minnesang
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpZ4JDE9ux4
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Braunfels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTjjSaS8K4
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Is there classical music that one can lift to?
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>>86508075
>F sharp minor
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>Voice not high enough for tenor or bartone
>Voice not low enough for Basso Profundo
What classical can I sing when I'm stuck as a D2-C4 bass? There is fucking nothing for us and fuck bass-aritones for stealing the "manly authority figure"-character from us
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>>86508457
>Wagner
>Tchaikovsky
>literally any military march
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>>86508457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81OOdiA2vrc
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>>86508457
the most crappy one
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>>86508581
So?
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>>86490161

Vivaldi ?
Why would you include him in A-list ?
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>>86490960

Because a programmatic nationalist battle tune is a great and easy way to make a quick buck.
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>>86508968
Ugly key
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>>86505529
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1y0aj43B8U

You should totally bother !
I'd recommend Josquin, palestrina, de lassus, gesualdo, ockeghem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvYwoGdD8Y

Also, for a masterpiece of medieval music, listen to de Machaut's messe de nostre dame.
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>>86509022
Scriabin used it too
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>>86509022
What the fuck is an "ugly key". It only has 3 sharps
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>>86509050
As did Bach, Pachelbel, Beethoven, Haydn...
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>>86509075
>It only has 3 sharps
That only is relevant in how difficult to read/play it is. I mean ugly aesthetically compared with other minor keys, but of course this is my opinion.
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I only like the rite of spring, tabula rasa, some retarded John cage and xenakis shit, gimme reccs.
Bonus points for wierd time signatures, rhythms or timbres
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>>86509277
>john cage
Stopped reading there. I recommend you the death
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>>86509277
'tók
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>>86509264
Its a stupid opinion, unless you have perfect pitch.
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>>86509389
If you think so... after listening so much classical music in minor modes I have developed like some preference to ones like D minor, F minor or E flat minor than others like F sharp minor, E minor or B flat minor
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>>86491664
a bit too slow but nice
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>>86509677
whoa nice oc. Truly scriabros are the most creative anons of this general
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>>86508457

>Is there classical music that one can lift to?

this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYof7P0-oVk
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>>86510030
>classical music compilation
Big yikes
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>>86510053
couldn't find a better recording...
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>>86510062
At least is wagner so no problem
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Weber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO4xdlPCjIM
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>>86509648
that's the dumbest most pretentious shit I read today... you know that keys changed over time and Beethoven's c minor was something different then ours? The only way keys affect the music is that keys with more sharps or flats have some impact on the interpret while he performs the piece
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>>86510273
>that's the dumbest most pretentious shit I read today...
I haven't disrespected you in any moment of our discussion
> you know that keys changed over time and Beethoven's c minor was something different then ours?
Yes of course, I'm fully aware of that.The thing is that for me keys have their own personality but maybe it's justa thing of mine since I can't comprehend it.
>The only way keys affect the music is that keys with more sharps or flats have some impact on the interpret while he performs the piece
How is that so? As much as I know it makes a piece more difficult to play if there are several flats/sharps or even double sharps or flats
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>>86509677
It's very slow but I actually don't mind it; it's an interesting interpretation. Nice OC btw.
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>>86510389
>that for me keys have their own personality
as I pointed out that's impossible at least regarding the frequency
>How is that so?
because of 1) playing techniques and 2) understanding music. Ever wondered why Chopin pieces have often lots of flats? That's because you have your hand deeper in the keys when playing in Ab, Db or Gb. Same goes for the Schubert impromptu in Gb that's often published in the easier G version. 2) in the process of composing the inner picture the composer has of a key determines the character of the piece since most composing takes place in the head. That's why for example Beethoven has typical Ab major or c minor idioms.
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Bruckner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=862S7uoRAvA
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Who is Gould and why do we hate him?
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>>86510708
only plebs hate him
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>>86510708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtJvnth3YI
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>>86505754
He “survived” because he was one of the best in being interesting and still is
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>>86511678
>he was one of the best in being interesting and still is
When someone has to use the word "interesting", for me seems like he can't really tell why something is good or relevant in any way, so interesting is the only (vague as fuck) positive adjective a person can think of anything.
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>>86511786
He was interesting by being weird and different from anyone of his time. Obviously he wasn’t a top notch, cutting edge, innovating genius composer but he found a niche for himself with his unique style. Besides I’m not even that much of a fan of Satie, I’m just saying that his posthumous fame isn’t completely unjustified.
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>>86498228
it's pretty hard to find opera recordings he conducted. I hope they find some live recordings in the radio archives and will release it.
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Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2qky2vJBc
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Rimsky-Korsakov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgFIQa98Znc
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Brahms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jbzf-n4LqQ
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>>86514889
>Hissy coughgy recording
I dont care if it was God himself conducting this, i'm not going to listen to noise
Anyway Bruns a cute a CUTE
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>>86515251
fag
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it may seem unrelated but I just saw the Mishima: a life in four chapters with a soudtrack composed by philip glass
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>>86510708
Gould is an autistic pianist who does terrible interpretations of Bach and can't help but humming quietly off key on every recording / performance.
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>>86515251
you better not get into opera anon
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>>86518485
There are plenty of good non-hissy opera recordings anon
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i need some happy uplifting energetic stuff
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>>86519418
Vivaldi and Mozart
Both underrated
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>>86518485
opera is shit anyway
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>>86512163
he got famous for being friends with famous people. thats about it. he was such a failure that he was kicked out of the paris conservatory and then was such a coward that he gave himself bronchitis to get himself kicked out of the military. there is no way youre unironically telling me satie had more talent than florent schmitt, honegger, tailleferre or joseph jongen or something. all superior french area composers who aren't as well known.
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Bump
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>>86521297
>there is no way youre unironically telling me satie had more talent than florent schmitt, honegger, tailleferre or joseph jongen or something
I never said anything like that in my post, if anything I said the exact opposite. Anyway, thanks for the names list, I’m gonna give a listen to Jongen.
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>>86523528
>I’m gonna give a listen to Jongen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riHBnLbAkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zVlXK_8zR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8uqkotfDZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46w5fz4wY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSifi8246YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-j3Ci4l-1k
enjoy anon.
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>>86523620
I’m listening to the Symphonie Concertante and really enjoying it so far. It sounds so fresh. Thanks!
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>>86523652
No problem anon! It's one of my favourite Concerto works. Jongen's orchestration is amazing in it. The bassoon lines in the first movement are so expressive
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>>86523706
>Jongen's orchestration is amazing in it.
I definitely agree. It’s so clear and yet so rich, it’s incredible.
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ten Holt
https://youtu.be/mjJUArTi2BY
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>>86523754
twenty Holt
https://youtu.be/Pzp1-oeNL5E
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>>86523785
thirty Holt
https://youtu.be/b1jILV6rv2Q
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P.D.Q. Bach
https://youtu.be/ZQVehnkc68M
https://youtu.be/68_j6yU4Whg
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>>86489565
Johan Strauss fucking sucks.
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>>86509264
>Not understanding equal temperament.
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>>86524362
Explain me please. I'm open to learning
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzVf19c6Q34
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>>86524372
google it.
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>>86524544
:(
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How do I learn to appreciate slower movements? They drag on for so long.
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>>86525991
Just grow up
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This orchestration of Brahms' G major quintet is really sweet. It's a shame the last movement isn't uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQZpJuLBsN8
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>>86525991
Slow movements are the hardest to perform effectively because you don't have anything to hide behind. Listen to the second movement of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYxCTiNrlI
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My face when people try to claim all music has equal artistic merit and trap music is just as legitimate as classical music
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Constanzi (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i78IhMViDU
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>>86525991
look at the theory behind them
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just saw a pretty ballsy production of lady mcbeth of mtsensk
entirely crude
but very good
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Thoughts on Richard Wagner's 'Das Rheingold'?
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Stupid general, be more fast and funny
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Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_0FHyF3Pyk
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>>86527457
It's musically the best thing Wagner wrote next to Parsifal.
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How I tell to a classical cute that I like her?
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Meyerbeer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs0rNKS8Bjg



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