Holy fuck this album's boring. I've listened to this thing dozens of time and I still don't see the appeal.
based and redpilled
>listening to something you don't enjoy a dozen timesYou're not very smart
Listen to an earlier MBV album and then loveless again and see whether you prefer the vacuum cleaners turned on or off
>>85843676Join the club
>>85843794I listened to the retards on this board telling me it would click with repeated listens
>>85843797I've already listened to their older stuff. All of it sucks
>>85843860whos the real retard, the retard or the retard who follows the retard?
>I've listened to this thing dozens of timeBAHAHAHA
>>85843905You need to learn to appreciate noise and walls of sound. Loveless is an album you experience
>>85843797there early stuff is like saying hi to a girl, loveless is like eating a pussy to slow music and scented candles
>>85843676unironically listen to this when ur going to asleep
>>85843676ive given up on this album bro, its just not meant to click for some people
... you don’t have to like something.You’re not entitled to enjoy something because other people do.Stop being insecure. It also doesn’t matter if you don’t like it.
>>85843676>zoomers dunking on canonical albums thread #943,539,485
>>85843676Are you listening it on good quality equipment? You don't find I Only Said hypnotic? Sometimes relaxing? To Here Knows When unironically euphoric?
>>85843676most /mu/core albums are shit
>>85843797>>85844949>>85845489>>85845518all wrongloveless is a very easy record to like and if you dont instantly than you propably wont ever. its fucking indie rock people. yeah it invented shoegaze (inb4 proto shoegaze, eat my ass) but its not a challenging listen in the slitest. now i fucking LOVE loveless, its propably unironically my numero uno record of all time but its pretty reasonable for someone to just not like it.
>>85846313I remember my first time. Belinda's boner-enducing voice coming in over that harsh yet beautiful noise on Only Shallow, it was like getting put back into the womb.
>>85846313Based and redpilled
>>85846313ThisIt’s literally just a normal, accessible 90s alternative album but noisier.
>>85846313>>85846662hurrrr durrrrrrit was a fucking revolution and you know it. and still is, otherwise there wouldnt be plebmasters like you both dismissing it as simple accesible alternative 90s. it has the curve of the great ouvres: its catchy at first listen, then you discover all the layers and interstitial tracks, then you can enjoy it again. its an album that normans can listen, advanced users can too, but middle of the road people always struggle with it.
>>85843676>this album's boring>I've listened to this thing dozens of timeWhat a fucking pleb retard. If I don't like something on the first listen, I never listen to it again. But you're a tone deaf retarded pleb so you have to listen to something you don't like a dozen times.Fuck you I wish you were dead.
>>85844949>some noisy pop album>noise and wall of soundsLOL
Loveless is for people that like staring at lavalamps
>>85846742Of course it's revolutionary, it invented and popularized a genre basically. But it's a challenging listen today. Today it's accesible and easy to digest, meaning also it's easy to instantly tell whether you like it or not. There's no mystical second layer or revelation after multiple listens, it's still shoegaze.
>>85847081>But it's a challenging listen today.Obviously meant "not a challening listen" but I'm retarded and now everyone will dismiss my point.
>>85847081>it's still shoegazeNo, it's still noisy pop.
>>85847124>Loveless is not shoegazeIt doesn't get any more contrarian than this tbf.
>>85847155He must think shoegaze=dream pop
>>85847155Well back in the days, Loveless was just another noisy pop album.The "shoegaze" thing was all about Ride, not My Bloody Valentine.Just look at old music magazines.
>>85847183t. clueless zoomer
>>85847331I’m an old man
>>85847429t. an old man with Alzheimer's disease
>>85843915nice obi-wan quote lmao
>>85847155eh tbf songs like I Only Said and To Here Knows When are definitely more dream pop then shoegaze
Snare x4*vacuum noises*
>>85843676Listen to Slowdive.. way better than this trash
>>85847529Only Shallow isn't even the vacuum sounds track. I Only Said is.
>>85846155This.Move onto something else OP, be confident in your tastes. Find something better.
I thought Loveless was ok, but Isn't Anything is better
>>85846313idk anon, on my first listen I didn't like it, now it's my favorite album.tbf at the time my taste in music was shit and I was one of those dorks who was like "hurr why the voices so quiet??? can't even hear!!" but then I revisited it after my horizons were expanded and I started listening to different kinds of music and I fell in love with it.I feel like it's an acquired taste. Maybe it's just me.
Slowdive and the new wave of shoegaze is much more exciting than MBV
>>85843676This album is so shit. More like Lifeless. Repetitive, annoying ass "ooohhh""ahhhhhh"" vocals annoy the hell out of me. Trebly static ad nauseum. It sounds stunted and castrated. Just a fog of loopy noise and not-even-half baked musical ideas played over and over again. This album should be half as long as it is considering the amount of actual ideas there are in this thing. Literally one of the most embarassingly autistic albums I've ever heard. /mu/ really does have shit taste.
>>85845518I've already fallen asleep listening to this album. Not intentionally, it just bored me to sleep.
>>85846773>I wish you were deadDon't cut yourself on that edge bubba
>>85846297>Are you listening it on good quality equipment?Idk I think my headphones are decent. I own a pair of K240's & a pair of M50X's>You don't find I Only Said hypnotic? Sometimes relaxing? To Here Knows When unironically euphoric?Not really. I find the haziness of them all really irritating
>>85843676Stop looking to /mu/ to decide your tastes. They’re a pseudo intellectual hivemind that will circlejerk to anything for the sake of feeling smart when they really aren’t. If there’s anyone who are NPCs, it’s people who follow “/mu/core”.
>>85848780I think that's more of a case of you being open to more music than Loveless specifically clicking after multiple listens. >>85847583Please tell me you're joking. Slowdive are worse than measles.
>>85848977Hey, just here cause I didn't tag you in >>85851699 to tell you that Slowdive is propably the worst thing to come out of the shoegaze genre. I understand not liking Loveless but pulling Slowdive as an example... simply embarassing. Cheers!
>>85846155>You’re not entitled to enjoy something because other people doThe word you're looking for is obligated
>>85846129Yeah I guess so. Kevin himself said 1/3 of the people that listen will hate it
>>85843676Watch the film Lost In Translation and you'll get it
>>85851141Might just not be for you. That's okay.
>>85843860>listening to retards on this boardThat's not very smart
>>85852610I've already seen it. What was I supposed to get from it to make me like loveless?
>>85852828>That's not very smartI know. That's the last time I'm letting myself get memed into repeatedly listening to a bullshit album
>>85852860Nothing, don't listen to him. >>85852954It's not bullshit, but listening to something you clearly dislike multiple times, yeah, pretty rarted. Don't listen to mu.
>>85852860The scene where Sometimes is playing and they're driving through the city. The images and context paired with the music perfectly capture the feeling of Loveless. It's like being deep inside a warm and cozy mist, with a hint of sadness and regret. Maybe the Loveless aesthetic just isn't for you. I feel the same way about the latest Daughters album. Everyone seems to love it but I hate that macho/aggressive vibe with a passion.
>>85853199>The scene where Sometimes is playing and they're driving through the city. Yeah I figured that scene is what you were talking about.>The images and context paired with the music perfectly capture the feeling of Loveless. It's like being deep inside a warm and cozy mist, with a hint of sadness and regret.I'm kinda jealous of the romantic language people use when describing Loveless. I've never loved an album enough to prose any musings about it. >Maybe the Loveless aesthetic just isn't for you.Maybe it isn't. I can't say I didn't try>I feel the same way about the latest Daughters album. Everyone seems to love it but I hate that macho/aggressive vibe with a passion.Ugh I fucking hated that album too. It's so try-hard. I kept thinking about how much I'd rather be listening to early Swans.
>>85844949>You need to learn to appreciate noise and walls of sound.I like noisy music but Kevin Shield's guitar work is some of the most hideous shit I've ever heard>Loveless is an album you experiencei.e. the music sucks and the album is only being carried by it's aesthetic
Really? I always thought the last song was pretty catchy. I like the rest as well. Try listening it to it while you're busy doing something, sometimes listening to it in the background lets you hear it differently, just a suggestion.
>>85854333anyone gonna at least acknowledge my trips?
>>85854333>I always thought the last song was pretty catchy. I like the rest as well. It's not the worst thing I've ever heard. What You Want is the only song on the album I like tho.>Try listening it to it while you're busy doing something, sometimes listening to it in the background lets you hear it differently, just a suggestion.Idk I've listened to this album roughly 25-30 times, if I haven't gotten it now I don't think I'm gonna get it. But I guess I'll do it while cleaning the house or something
>>85854931honestly i’d just stop listening to it. at that point i think you can say you gave it a chance. you don’t have to like everything (especially if it’s lauded by this board)
>>85843676Are there any shoegaze albums you like?
>>85854971No, I guess? I honestly don't even know wtf shoegaze is at this point. You see even people on this thread can't seem to agree
My favorite shoegaze song <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZTfvJ23Wwk
>>85855269Wow imagine that, the tourist doesn't appreciate or understand the genre of which he speaks. Loveless is cancelled
>>85855455I'm willing to bet you don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of every musical genre/subgenre ever so how about you kys and stfu in that order?
>>85849750Based and redpilled
>>85848728All of it is shit
>>85845518Who can sleep with all that fucking noise?
>>85843676It literally took me about 60 plays until it clicked. I always liked it, somewhat, but it took years until I realized just how much of a masterpiece it is. Listening to it right now actually.
>>85856903>It literally took me about 60 plays until it clickedNow that's dedication
>>85857014Well, "clicked" as in I finally saw what everyone else sees in it. It's one of those albums I listened to a lot in high school but I never actually realized how frequently I revisited it. Then I realized I'd listened to it so much and the love kind of began to bloom from there, if any of that makes sense. I always liked it but didn't know why, but then one day I finally started to appreciate it on a whole other level
>>85843676>boringNice buzzword. Go listen to Kanye zoomer
>>85854050Music is literally aesthetics and sound
>>85856903>took me 60 plays until it clickedI listened about 30 times and I'm done this album isn't for me
>>85843676It's just simply not for you. This album clicked the first time I listened, mostly out of subtleties in production and playing rather than the songwriting itself
>>85857313>"Nice buzzword">acts as though buzzword isn't a buzzword
>>85857445If course you don't enjoy it for the songwriting. It's because the songwriting is non-existent
>>85857344If the music doesn't SOUND good then what's the fucking point?
>>85857154Yeah, I thought it was just ok for a few years. I wasn't very open to genres outside of what I was used to so I guess I just didn't "get" shoegaze. Now that it's clicked it's one of my favourite albums. Definitely an album you "feel" rather than enjoy for the complex song structures
>>85843676It's something you won't truly appreciate until you're older/have more music listened to under your belt. You've got a ways to go.
>>85847081I've never heard of shoegaze as a genre. You learn something every day.
>>85843794It unironically took me 6 listens before ITAOTS clicked