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>>85838942nice edit of the pic op lmao
Why are all the online tutorials for basic bitch House or Techno shit
>>85839699Sadowick has some.
Please Demmy make them public again
>>85839824post something really not either of them
>>85839755>DemarcusN- never heard of him, Anon! Haha
>>85839893PLEASE!I BEG YOUWe all love you dude, don't get the trolls get to your head.The guy even said it yesterday that it was all a troll and your song wasn't that bad.Please.
>will toledo made twin fantasy age 17
DeMarcus, come back nigga damn
https://instaud.io/3i2ba small sketch, what do you thinkis the bass too overpowering ? i am aware the beginning part needs work with those squeals lmao
>>85838972i also have a high quality version but wasn't sure which to use
I have a question about plunderphonics. If I made plunderphonics where the samples are still fairly recognisable, including from mainstream pop songs and such (and had album art that violates copyrights as well) and put it up on Bandcamp, what would the chances of it being taken down or even getting sued be? I have sampled shit before, even from mainstream pop, without incident, but the difference would be that songs would be "sample-based" rather than "incorporate samples for tribute or parody purposes" which is what all could be said to be so far that I've done with samples. And would it make it worse or better to list every sample used?
>>85838942https://clyp.it/hrl345geThe MS20 bass sounds nice, but I think I might just strip this back, include the delayed percussion, kick, and just add a big sidchained 808 like bass with little crinkly paper textures. Thoughts and critiques?
>>85840278At the most you will get a warning. Look at Floral Shoppe, a massive album in popularity, but it's still around.
>>85840278It's as likely as it is to be heardDon't list shit dudeDon't steal album art lol>>85839699Wtf are you talking about barely anybody makes fucking techno lol. "House" got replaced with edm>>85840264>is the bass too overpowering ? iNah but the drums are a tad harsh when it turns up>>85840454Yeah but the original album upload got taken down because of the dianna Ross bullshit. There are people/companies that stand to gain from fucking people over>>85840435This is one of the better ones I've heard from you. I do not like your idea of changing it however, the 808 thing especially is a terrible idea and that sounds like how I expect one of your typical tracks to go awry. Imo if anything needs work it's really just the best. Give the kick a break every now and then... and idk like subtle hats and hand drums swirling in the background on occasion
How do I make this pad sound in the beginning https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQL5IhwGm4
>>85840454>>85840535Ok guys, here's my plunderphonics. It's all made from samples from four songs and they're all songs I like:https://instaud.io/3i2Ir8 plx, I know it's shit and it's not serious so keep that in mind
bumprate clyps or die
Hey guysI uploaded this track to soundcloud. It's a lot different than things I've tried making in the past. Can I get some feedback on it? Thank you!https://soundcloud.com/spacehash/cant-forget-you
>>85841372i choose the second one
>>85838976Weird, in a strange way. Maybe if it had a strong drop I'd like it. Right now it's okIs it me or the snare is a bit loud?
Boys where can I acquire splice sample packs, im trying to find 2 specific packs.
>>85839699Search on youtube, specifying the genre.There are tons of trap ones.I found some nice boom bap ones https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvrm14JUt8w33kqzbwpyDowAnd I bet you can find some for many many genres
>>85840435Fellow renoiser! I like it. If it wasn't such a build up by the end I could imagine it as a soundtrack for a dark game>>85840739The vocals and are too strange for me: Otherwise I kinda like it. I like the rhythm you give to it though, and some effects are nice. I think it would be hard for someone to tell what you sampled, so you should be safe (however I don't know the original songs, so you should judge for yourself)>>85841538Soundcloud is not anonymus>>85841977kek
Let's say that I want to become as good as Madlib in sampling. Do you think picking random songs that he made, go to whosampled to see where the samples comes from, and then try to recreate his music from those samples would be a good method to learn and train myself?
>>85842801>Maybe if it had a strong drop I'd like it.how to achieve this
>>85843360hmm go ahead try it and tell us if worked. actually telling us wouldn't be enough, you'd have to show too
>>85843795Ok, I will try. I just wanted to know if it was an effective way of learning and practicing and if I was going to waste my time or not. But I will try
How can I use 16 levels tuning on Audacity? I want to do something similar to that :https://youtu.be/42PXCz8fF0A
>>85843886nice. you could show us the first attempt and then when you're done it can be compared to the last one to see how much improvement you got
>>85843751I have no idea, I'm a beginner myself. Maybe try listening to stuff with a drop similair to the one that you think could fit this, then try to understand how it works, which instruments create which effect and such. Then create one
the guy who makes those airwindows plugins is streaming rnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVyyFHM8cw
>>85843922Audacity is not a daw, at least not a full one. So the only way (that I know of) is to record your "Booiii", then copy past it a bunch of times, then pitch-shift each copy and place it to create the melody you wantHowever it would he simpler with a daw, where you would actually get the possibility to actually map it on the keyboard and play notes in your computer keyboard (or enter them by hand. Still much faster than pitchshifting many times)There are free daws, the most popular ones being ardour and lmms. People say reaper is "free as winrar" (basically full functionality but nagging screens once in a while)
>>85844163Thanks. I tried LMMS and didn't really like it(sampling in it is very limited). Is sampling easy on Ardour? I just know that Ardour does pitch and time stretching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTkcegla5f4more allpass/disperser feticism, interesting stuff using ableton stock plugins only
>>85844432>I tried LMMS and didn't really like it(sampling in it is very limited)True. I have the same issue with it>Is sampling easy on Ardour?I'm not familiar with it so I don't know, I'm sorry. I know it has midi capabilities thoughI make sampled music on renoise
>>85844633Will take a look.>>85844724Yeah I will try Renoise too. Soudtrackers sound interesting for what I want to do.
https://clyp.it/51ew5evqmade another attempt at beat with underlying weird perc loop (not stolen ofc)what do you think lads
>>85845140the snare is a little too loud, nice beat tho
>show someone song>"Wow Anon, you made this? It sounds professional."
>>85845140the kick could be cleaner but overall it's really nice, I like the snare that way
>>85845408I've been making music for 10 years and it's 10 years that people tell me I make amazing music and it's 10 years that I think I make shitty musicguess that's what keeps me good in their ears
>>85846008keep it up Anon
>>85845140I like it, including the dirty kick and the snare
https://clyp.it/ngsfjum4I really hate thisNever gonna make it
OH BOY ANOTHER DAYI'm thinking TRAP today!
>>85840171>Kate Bush wrote Wuthering Heights at 18 and recorded it a single take Never gonna make it
>>85846826YeAh buoy! You finna drop a beat or you doin some trap nation shit?
>>85846750The kick a bit loudI think you're still not great at picking/creating sounds, but hey, nobody is in the beginning, chill! I made "ok" tracks, but I started out very bad. What I would recommend you to do is to pay attention when you listen to the music you like to all the different elements, such as: how does the kick sound like? What does the synth sound like? What changes from the verse to the chorus? This way you'll slowly gain understanding of how music works, so you'll make less obvious mistakes, and have better song ideas. Keep it going, you can make it!>>85846826Boooorrriiiing (jk, good luck!)>>85846846I think most artists felt this way some times, probably even many great ones. But in the end we are all different, and each of us can make something unique, and it doesn't have to be legendary for us to be happy with it or/and other people to enjoy and care aboutAnd you'll become good and will be proud if you put in the effort. It's hard, I'm struggling too (I like sampled hip hop, now guess how I feel when I hear j dilla's beats?), but we can make this happen. And we will. It's just a matter of dedication. Let's do it
>>85840171>never made anything good since
>>85845333>>85845989>>85846695hmmmmmm alright thanks for listening and the responses my mans
>>85847265I don't know the words you're saying but maybe!>>85847478I will make something more excite tomorrowGood luck to you too (;
how is the floor tom pattern on a rhythm like this when played by a real drummer? https://instaud.io/3i8u
I want to make future bass but I'm kinda scared, what do?
>>85846750keep it up my nigga, do you do sound design?
>>85847684hide under the bed
>>85847601drummers only have two hands sam>>85847684FACE YOUR FEARS
>>85847762one hand on the snare other hand on the tom remember, kick is not with hands
>>85847845that hat doesn't sound like a pedal to meeeeeeee
>>85847478>What I would recommend you to do is to pay attention when you listen to the music you like to all the different elementsEven if I could pay attention, it immediately leaves my head. I don't have focus or memory retention anymore. Besides a sound is just a sound, it can be replaced easily. It doesn't change the composition and what I really want more than anything is to be able to compose a song and have the structure I want to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdpKPSjQ37Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSTQ4oKNmEohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0axbemV5FncI don't know how to get this circular feeling. I feel like everything I make is smoother and less intrusive.
>>85847706I don't have the patience or focus for sound design and I figure it'd be useless at this point. Better/more intricate sounds won't make my compositions better.
>>85848009>Better/more intricate sounds won't make my compositions betterthey literally will wtfa huge part of what makes songs sound amateur is the sound design. also sounds influence the way you compose bro
>>85848009I'm telling you that because they will my man. Sound design makes a huge difference from experience. You just gotta stick with one synth and figure what sound you're looking to remake on Youtube and shit.Your shit could really improve man. The key to improvement is really to bite the bullet on what could improve your production even if it intimidates you.
>>85847903ill take off the hat
>>85847952can\t listen atm but i assume yours feels too 'smooth' because you aren't chopping samples like they are
>>85847952You need to switch up the rhythm of your drums then, your stuff sounds like typical trap because that's what you're used to doing.You really have to be conscious when doing this shit so you don't become a victim to your comfort zone.Grab a OF track, drag it on your DAW and try to recreate it. Make this your homework for the day, please post it.
>>85848166just make it a pedal or take the hand off when the crashes hit wtfyou play with a fucking drummer just think imagine yourself at a kit dude
>>85848036there's more important things to learn first than sound design... "crank dat'' literally uses stock FL sounds and yet people are STILL talking about itdemarcus, why not try to remake crank dat to get a feel for it
>>85848228i agree but demarcus uses straight shit soundsnot being good at sound design isn't an excuse to use crap sounds.
which of these bass tones fits better, and how are the drums' tone and programminghttps://instaud.io/3i9nhttps://instaud.io/3i9l>>85848203 i take the hat off then the crash hits, we're talking the tom section here
>>85847525>I will make something more excite tomorrowI was jocking, trap can be exiting, if you're creative with it>Good luck to you too (;Thanks!>>85847739Died.>>85847952>Even if I could pay attention, it immediately leaves my headI think that something is bond to stay, because in music different songs often have things in common, so you'll hear something in a track, then in another one, and you already noticed it, so in the end you'll remember it. But if you really striggle with this, a practical solution would be to write things down. Maybe you notice x in a song, and you really like the effect that gives, then you can write down x in a notebook with a short description and the song you found it in>I don't have focus or memory retention anymoreWe all have some degree of focus. If you make music, you must like it, that means that you manage to listen to songs. It's not required from you to grasp at first listen all the elements that compose a track, just from time to time pay attention to a thing or two, try to notice stuff. If you really like something, try to grasp what's that thing that makes it work. It doesn't have to be a lengthy and highly concentrated analysis. For the memory I told you above, you could have a notebook you carry around where you write stuff you notice and song ideas>Besides a sound is just a sound, it can be replaced easilyIn some contexes this is true, you can replace a sound, however sounds are one of the most important things there are in music. You know how often I tell a newbie for someone who started some time ago? The newbie has the default piano preset without reverb. Music is sound. Timbre is emotion. It really is important, don't underestimate that.I'll comment on the links in a minute, this is getting too long
>>85848582I'm this guy>>85848009Ok you can put off sound picking but remember that good composition sound lame on bad sounds. Unless you're really really good and take that as a challenge but it still woudn't sound nearly as good as stuff you'd make using good sounds>>85847952Sorry but I ain't got much timeThe first link. I listened to it, and I noticed something typical in rap/trap. Do you notice how first it's drums and sample, then they introduce the bass, and then they take it out? That something that is often used, when you take out tha bass it makes the beat feel more "suspended". To keep it interesting they also add a background synth, which remains when they put the bass back in. This variation keeps the beat interesting for the verse. The chorus: I just noticed the strings, which changed the mood a bit. I like when the mood in a song changes, it's not always necessary, but it can make the track more entertaining. That's just a quick listen. btw the baby with the grown up face was quite a surprise>>85848353This is... unsetteling? I think the sounds could've been a lot better, but it's very uncomfortable to listen to, so you've probably reached your goal. But yeah it's annoying and it doesn't sound cool
how to make the bass guitar tighter with the drums on the mixing
>>85848880what makes it unsettlinghow do i make it sound cool
>>85848755I like the melody. Instead of being so low for so long maybe it would've been cooler if it slowly became louder and louder.The kick snare and hi hat patterns are good. But I don't like the sounds, especially the snare, but maybe that's my taste. The build up sound effect is too loud imho. It seems like the world is going to explode when it comes. The bass could be better, it could go more along with the sample, to make the song more united, and not just random drums other a sample. Later your other bass does thatOverall not bad I'd say
Where do I pirate these seemingly great plugins like Nexus, Serum, etc.? TPB seems quite dodgy recently
>>85848995unsettling because of the harmony and melody. The very high pitched sounds are disturbing because they are very high pitched and are loud, also they don't "sound home" or at least "relaxed" (that's because of the notes you chose).The harmony jumps around a lot. Try making some music with 4 chords, which change every four beats (every four kick hits in your case). You need to learn basics of music theory. Scales, chords. You should try to understand how music works by listening to music you like and trying to pick up stuff, to see what you like and why you like it. How each instruments sounds. Try to listen to your song and to a similair song you like and try to find the differences. Antoher thing people suggest is to try to replicate tracks you likeThis way you will learn how music works. Good luck bro
>>85848941is it insulting if I say sidechain?
>>85849235it's in a scale im using Blues scale in F
>>85849255wouldnt sidechain make the bass die when the drum hits and thus decrease the punch instead of making them punch together
>>85846750there's just not a lot of drip sorry bro.Not gonna lie all of your shit is like caught between trying to be emotional and trying to be hard. You're trying to make melodic shit but don't understand music theory.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9200egdQPEIt's literally just I-I-I-VII chord every beat a bassline and some percsYou don't want to pay attention to the chords and sound selection but that's all that matters. Like, yeah dope melody, it doesn't matter because the construction of the song itself is shit. Why are you worried about the rooftop pool when you're living in a mud house.
>>85849470Ah I see, yeah just lowcut the bass and high cut the kick (or vice versa if it's trap). Then make sure they have a similar attack, or put a small negative delay on the bass if need be.
>>85849338Varius degrees in a scale have various effects. Sorry for assuming, but I don't know you, so I can't tell what you know and what you don't. Hope at least the rest of the advice is useful
>>85849641is it possible to make the drums and bass' attack tighter
>>85850439record it tighter you goofif you need more tranient use a transient shaper
How could I go about looking at the frequency responses of a song so I can mimic the timbre of the piano being used by adjusting EQ? I pulled up a frequency spectrum graph in audacity to do so but it’s not entirely helpful.
>>85850839>audacitybrofrequency response isn't all there is to timbre, it's about harmonics not just how you eq it
>>85850887Where I can read into this in full depth? I have no problem looking at the physics if need be.
>>85850839There are some EQ VSTs that have a "matching" feature. It will analyze a source track and a target track, then adjust the EQ until the spectrums match. Like the other anon said, though, that won't help much for mimicking a timbre.
>>85851193>I have no problem looking at the physics if need be.That's the attitude! But it won't help you hereWhat i'm getting at is that you can't eq a strat to sound like a les paul etc you know? Eq would mimic tone, not timbre. If you post somebody might be able to identify it and point you in the right direction. I am not well versed in distinguishing acoustic pianos though.
>>85849338That's no excuse, basically every scale has diminished or augmented chords and its up to the composer to administer these dissonances in a logical and satisfying way.
>>85851261That sounds pretty sweet thanks>>85851280I see what you mean now, the eq doesn't change the shape of the waves just the frequencies. While there is a certain piano track in particular I want to replicate, it's of more importance for me to get something like the sound of a grand steinway piano but through a DAW.
>>85851432You might consider checking out a Steinway grand sample library. Here's a free one I just found with a google search:https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/05/11/piano-in-162/
>>85851432you should look for kontakt libraries or other for samplers or you could look like pianoteq vst which is physical modeling
>>85851480>>85851493Many thanks /prod/ anons.
>>85848086where can I download Serum, Sylenth1, and Nexus >>85848185I don't think those songs use samples, except maybe Sam Is Dead. >>85848199>You need to switch up the rhythm of your drums thenI've really been trying to, I just have no idea what direction to even go in. I've looked in various places and haven't found any significant insight on making non-trap drum patterns. I've watched lofi tutorials to try and help but the drums in most lofi songs sound like generic boombap shit and that's not at all what I'm trying to do. >Grab a OF track, drag it on your DAW and try to recreate it.Like the drums? I don't know I'd go about recreating the whole song. I really need to re-learn piano.
>>85852032DEMARCUS HASN'T READ THE PASTEBIN
>>85848582>I think that something is bond to stay, because in music different songs often have things in common, so you'll hear something in a track, then in another one, and you already noticed it,I hate to be one of those "my music taste is so diverse guys", but I think what I listen to is more dissimilar than not. > If you make music, you must like it, that means that you manage to listen to songsBarely. I'm pretty sure I make music more than I listen to it. And while I did think to start writing in a notebook last night, I am very bad at analysis and thinking beyond a surface level. I think it's the accumulation of several years of brain damage. >>85848880>then they introduce the bass, and then they take it out?Wow, that's super fucking helpful. Like I'm not being sarcastic this makes. I don't know how to describe it, but it really explains so much.>>85849597>You don't want to pay attention to the chords and sound selection but that's all that matters.>Not gonna lie all of your shit is like caught between trying to be emotional and trying to be hard. You're trying to make melodic shit but don't understand music theory.Okay. This is really helpful too. I don't necessarily try for anything when I'm making a beat, I just kind of do shit, but I'm doing too much. That makes sense. Thank you. Damn I want to make a beat now but I just started rewatching Sleepaway Camp.
>>85852257I can't read.
is pro tools worth the money? anyone here use it?
>>85852738MaybeNo, it's an old people dawI'd say you should really only consider it if you're making rock or soundtracks... or you want to be a pro engineer
>>85852738i cant remember anyone posting recently that used pro tools
>>85851480that sounds fucking terrible lol
>>85852851what do you suggest?
>>85852738I prefer it, but I learned it because I'm an audio engineer. That being said, if you're on windows you can torrent pro tools 12
guys I just installed delay lama following this tutorial but it's not showing up in fl studio, what do?http://www.dlldownloader.com/delay-lama-dll/
>>85852981Well I use abletonImo fl studios interface is bloated but many people love it and it comes with great vstsReason has some cool ones as well, and it's an easy transition for hardware oriented people... iircReaper is free
>>85853136Reaper is free? The website says you have a 60 day trial period.
>>85853152WINRAR FREEyou have to wait like 30 seconds when you boot it up or something i think, haven't used it in a while
for me its cubase
how do you download from audioz
I'm just trying to find Sylenth1 and Nexus why is this so confusing
>>85853336buy them you stupid goy
>>85853246audioz has a lot of VSTs but none of them are cracked so it's pretty useless. Plus all the Serum skins, lolz
>>85852981What are you primarily trying to do with the DAW? (record a band, mix live instruments, compose music from scratch, use lots of MIDI, etc.)Some are a little better than others for certain things. I've only really gotten into Ableton and Studio One, but I like both of them (especially as creative tools). Maybe other anons can point you towards something that suits your specific needs
looks like Digital Performer 10 is going to have a clip launcher now.
>>85853392lots of midi
>>85853398holy shit this looks shameless
>>85853431oh yeah that's an ableton for sure>>85853336sylenth1 is kinda garbo compared to the other big synths out, what's drawing you to it?
if i install a new version of ableton will it transfer over all of my saved presets from the last version?
>>85853367I have $0.50 in my bank account. >>85853379sigh.>>85853550I just want some shit. Nexus, Sylenth, Ominsphere, Serum. Anything I can get.
how's this mixed by the way https://instaud.io/3icS
>>85853742you rich fuck, i'm in the negativefls audio exist too btw>>85853806thanks for namefagging so i know not to click your links
>>85853806cymbal is too loud and why is it only in the left channel? also, why do you only have one crash cymbal?
>>85853742first of all forget abour nexus, it's not cracked, you should try rutracker instead some stuff like serum is not available on audioz also if you can't understand how audioz works you might end up having troubles installing plugins
>>85853981because our drummer only has one cymbal
>>85854154if that vocal is supposed to be a lead it's way too quiet.
>>85853742helm is a good free synth
>>85853778I'll post it around midnight/1 EST
>>85854540You jerk, I have to work in the morning!
>dig up promising song from 2 months ago because cleaning out problems>mix sounds like shit>stubbornly rewrite half the fucking thing beause of your initial high hopesALRIGHT NOW IT'S AVERAGE WOOHOO
>>85844691I wanna thank you for bringing this to my attention.https://instaud.io/3ie0
>>85845140That's some really neat sounds there anon.
lol fuck ok this time for realhttps://clyp.it/2kj13tcjtrap wip, check it out, obviously gotta add some variation. Feedback besides that?
>>85850839Jesus Christ what a hellscape.
Ok I am getting really annoyed at mixing this thing. I like the sample I'm using but it sounds kind of too muffled. It need some more beef. I've tried add distortion to it, adding distortion only to certain frequencies, boosting the high end, adding an exciter, etc. Just sounds kind of muddy and I don't know how else to bring it out. If anyone can help that would be great.https://clyp.it/yzqn1xjd>>85856884It's decent. I'm assuming your'e not done mixing but I think making that second snare a little louder wouldn't be bad.
https://clyp.it/3mfriifqwhat am i missing here? i think a snare is too powerful for this
>>85852274I think a good start would be less fart noises.
>>85854566lol im gonna finish when you go to work because im following through a tutorial and its taking me some time
well this didn't work out too well https://clyp.it/afpl5gbb
>>85857060The melody thing?Maybe try eq it to be really clear and clean but super quiet and then just gain the shit out of it and distort to taste?
if someone knows how to design the sound at beginning on playboi carti - long time, let me know
>>85857141too much cowbell imo but your drums are improving. the bass is not bad but it doesn't fit in the mix imo. You might not see it, but you're actually getting better. You could make a legit beat tape right now with some samples and better mixing.
>>85857141btw what vst do u use?
>>85857089Sounds pretty full to me, maybe a light shaker for some high sizzle?
>>85856884This needs a lot of compression and decent EQing. One rule of thumb that does a good job at cleaning out a mix is to high pass basically everything that's not the bass at 100-150 Hz. Obviously that's oversimplifying things -- you should try to low+high pass (effectively bandpass) most tracks to the range they belong in. I'd like for that long droney pad to stand out in the mix more as well. The real gripe here is the lowend. Is the kick/bass just a single 808 or something that you're pitch shifting? That's kind of what it sounds like. My advice would be to (always, literally always) split the kick and the bass out into two separate tracks. It makes things much less muddy. As for that nice 808 sound, I typically would do something like a sine wave with no attack, no decay, max sustain, with a low pass filter on it. I also usually map an envelope to the pitch which starts it like two octaves above and brings it down to its root super super quickly -- gives it a really nice kick drum-y punch. I'd also recommend (sidechain) compressing the bass (against the kick), just to give everything a little more punchiness when the kick comes in, since they share a frequency band. You can also just compress the percussion track (all the perc samples together) -- that's something I often do to give stuff a bit more punch.I think some stereo effect on the pads or something could be neat too.Anyways, my main piece of advice is judicious use of compression.
>>85857141(honeslty though both the last two you posted were ok)
>>85857158I think the problem is the sample itself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXwjP-ZFDJkIt just sounds like that. I have the flac of it but that doesn't help. I pretty much want that synth without the out of date mixing and not as much reverb. I think I'm just going to have to put something else over it and use it as a backdrop or something.
>>85857249Thanks for the feedback, I'll try to make the pad stand out more (the pad/chords and melody are on the same track) and add an imager or something.The bass is just an 808 yeah, there's no kick. I usually have an 808 and a kick, but given a lot of trap rap has just an 808 with no kick, I wanted to try that out.I'm surprised you say separating the low end it makes less muddy, in my experience the challenge with having an 808 and a kick is the muddiness when they hit together. Side chaining definitely helps but takes away a lot of the punch of the 808.I do have a filter envelope as well as a LFO on the 808. Generally I don't like max sustain 808s unless it's a super distorted saw or something, although that might actually sound good on this track. Interesting you say you don't like the bass, that's the part that I was most satisfied with.Basically, I usually just throw what sounds good on there and then worry about clashing when I mix it. But this beat I wanted to go in with the idea of giving each instrument all the space it needs during the sound selection stage, that way I preserve all the harmonics and don't "ruin" the sound during mixing. I guess that doesn't mean I don't need to mix it at all though.And yeah no mastering done whatsoever, definitely gonna add some compression.
>>85853379>audioz has a lot of VSTs but none of them are crackedwhat?
>>85853246Click on the peeplink links (might be behind a captcha), then choose one of the sites (most likely uploaded, rapidgator, or rockfile), then once you're in the download page, if the file is available, click on the slow download option, and after a timer and a captcha you'll have started the download.
>>85853738If you have a 9.* version and you install a newer 9.* version, it won't override anything. It's just gonna update it.If you have a 9.* version and you install a 10.* version it's gonna install it alongside the old version so you'll have both, and I'm not sure but I think it's gonna share the same library folder as the old one or create a new one in a new location.Either way it won't overwrite anything.
>>85857378I see, not interested in trying to recreate the synth?
this song is peaking at -4.5 lufstoo much you think???
>>85855349>hear a guy hate on quantisation>"muh quantisation kills the groove">J Dilla was revolutionary because he didn't use quantize>decide to not use quantisation>make track only recording midi keyboard>shitty timing>try to fix by re-recording small parts>realise the first three bars are way faster than the last one>It's fucking terrible>fuckk>redo fucking everything>now it's "ok">I spent 2+ hours between rerecording small parts and redoing everythingWill I ever learn to have decent timing?
>>85858548Ffffffuck I feel bad now I spent like 3 hours trying to figure out how to record and then recording takes for a video I didn't even upload because I was too self conscious... it was 911 and actually a good example for teaching about how it's not as simple as just "don't quantize."And some measures can be faster... or sound faster because of rushed/dragged beats:(
>>85853398this what autechre use?
>>85857054can you imagine the dust from that road? i know artists are usually stupid but there's a reason we started paving them
>>85857232Sorry, I was getting ready to tell you all the VSTs I use but got distracted by a VST I hadn't used and started working on another song. I have a lot of instruments but I mostly use Crystal, Creepy Piano, Keyzone Classic, DSK AsianZ DreamZ, DUNE2, Dexed, Helm, Iowa Alto Flute, BellsEbuth, JuiceOPL, Lokomotiv, Sinnah, Tunefish, Synth1, SuperWave P8, Cute Emily Guitar. Triple Cheese, Sonatina Cello, and Zebralette. For FX plugins I have Izotope Vinyl, FuzzPlus (don't use), RoughRider (don't use), Transpire (don't use much anymore), Sausage Fattener (same as Transpire), TubeDriver (don't use), TAL Reverb, TAL Filter, SGA1566, a lot of shit I don't use basically. When it comes to adding effects I usually use Izotope Vinyl, Fruity stock effects, CamelCrusher, and then a few FabFilters I downloaded from some guys Mega link here even though he said not to.
>>85857214>You could make a legit beat tape right now with some samples and better mixing.I really want to make something, anything, even if it's garbage. I want to make something complete. >>85857349saved. Also, yeah, I'm listening to the song again. The bass doesn't fit and it is too much cowbell. I arp'd the synth cause I was actually attempting to make it sound a bit like Angela's Theme from the movie. I should've actually arp'd it instead of using a filter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hv47GeVdtk
https://clyp.it/hmuxy5e3I don't know I worked on this for a long time but its still not where I wanted it to be
Any Linux bros here what daw do you use?
>>85860481>look it up>it's non-existentheh
https://clyp.it/fiqkxis3do you think this is rappable? >>85860611you have been epic trolled my friend :-)
>>85861616The bass and drums are too loud compared to the rest, which makes everything but them sound too quiet.
Why do all the clyps and snippets people post here sound so "sterile" and clean compared to tracks you hear on other platforms?
>>85862112Everyone on the other platforms uses the dog, while people here use the cat.
>>85860102Yessssrenoise. I know I'm sorry, but I know not of foss daws good for sampling
>>85860481That's actually a cool daw name.If I ever write a daw I'll name it that way
>>85862112Because nobody here knows how to properly mix and master, I doubt 70% even use tape saturation on their clyps, let alone know what it is.
>>85862633autism>lol beacuse they are new lol cucksgod forbid
>>85862670are you stupid?
>>85840739hey fellow plunder bro, ever thought about making "house" with it?https://clyp.it/5dxhfl1g
>>85862698epic reply bro
>>85862112that's been my biggest gripe with my prods, thanks to this guy >>85862633 I know for sure why my latest song sounds so much better (i did this in the master track)
>>85862735>guy asks why people's mixes here are too sterile>guy responds that it's because they're not good at mixing>you respond by calling him autistic and saying that it's not a big deal because they are new, as if he were calling them idiots or something, which he didn't (he just stated a simple fact)>I chime in, asking you a rhetorical question.
>>85861616Tone down the bass, and the snare a bit, then add some watery sounds in the back and then I'd spit the fuck over this.
>>85862779>as if he were calling them idiots or somethingthat's how I read it>let alone know what it isthe way i see it, this guy needs to shut the fuck up
>>85862818t. guy who found out about tape saturation thanks to this post >>85862633
the soundcloud thread wasn't shit for help. I have a question: what are my options to touch up a vocal recording from a built-in laptop microphone? I already try my best with EQ and compression with a little bit of reverb to soften the edges, but it still sounds like there's more to be desired.Here's an example: https://clyp.it/ucydrufj
please help by giving me the business, i'm new and shithttps://instaud.io/3ihS
>>85862818Just because a factual statement is about something negative doesn't mean it's an insult.It's true that most people here don't know how to mix, and his "70%" hyperbole is entirely plausible.
>>85862871did you EQ the hi hats
>>85862873>factual statementwutit is an insult, bro, and he saying 70% hyperbole or not means the majority and I as a part of this epic general consider myself offended and if the other posters are too cuck to tell him to fuck off well *I* am not and I motherfucker am saying it - fuck off BRO
>>85862919nah I'll admit I don't know how to master. Ableton comes with presets that I use to save myself the trouble. If I were going to make money off my tunes as a primary form of income, then I'd do more
>>85862919>he saying 70% hyperbole or not means the majority...yes?Are you implying that the majority of people who post clyps here are good at mixing?
>>85862952no i am implying that the insult is also aimed at me as i do not consider myself one of the best producers here or anywhere and i am also saying that i do not care what he thinks or what question he is replying to as it could be about reverb or whatever and still be the same, but if he's calling me an idiot ima tell him to FUCK OFF and SUCK my DICK
>>85862885fuckin shit, i def didn't m8 thank you
>>85862985Lmao so you are actually a bad producer who's butthurt about being called what he is (a bad producer).Good to know.
>>85862997I'd EQ the whole drums, then turn down one of two things: either I'd lay off the S-chain some, or I'd re-EQ the kick to make it less punchy. Are you using a vinyl kick drum sample from a hip hop sample collection?
>>85862997I also want to say that personally I think your song is a bit boring. If you're going for a minimalist theme, less is more. here's an example I personally like. Am I basically judging you based off nothing but my subjective taste? Absolutely. https://soundcloud.com/schmorko/hoosenot me btw
>>85863020lol really what do you care when you don't even know who i am? what really boggles my mind actually is how OK you are with the guy who is calling the majority of this general stupid. this leaves 3 options -1.) you are the guy, in which case - kys, fuck off2.) you are a cuck because he is calling you stupid and you are defending him , in which case - call me to fuck your wife because i WILL3.) you consider yourself better than the majority of this general and are making a show of it (the post i'm replying to) which means that you are either deluded and insecure or it's true and you're just an asshole in which case i challenge you to post a clyp so i can know who exactly is talking to ME telling me that i am part of the 70% part of prod that is shitter than him
>>85863130>what really boggles my mind actually is how OK you are with the guy who is calling the majority of this general stupid.He didn't call them stupid. He just said they're not good at mixing, and I'm ok with it BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING TRUE.We're on 4chan dude. Do you expect me to take offense from a fucking anonymous post, let alone one that's not even directed at me?>>85863130>1.) you are the guy, in which case - kys, fuck offlmao>2.) you are a cuck because he is calling you stupid and you are defending him , in which case - call me to fuck your wife because i WILLlmao>3.) you consider yourself better than the majority of this general and are making a show of it (the post i'm replying to) which means that you are either deluded and insecure or it's true and you're just an asshole in which case i challenge you to post a clyp so i can know who exactly is talking to ME telling me that i am part of the 70% part of prod that is shitter than himYep.I am better than the majority.Here's a clyp to prove it:https://clyp.it/user/o3dm5i3pAlso I'm not making a show of it (anonymously nonetheless lol). I just said you're stupid because your post here >>85862670 is retarded.
>>85863026It is a hip hop kick drum sample. I'm guessing if I'm already using a punchy kick, adding in too much sidechain is overkill? I'll try both re-EQing and maybe finding a better sample and starting from there to see which sounds better.>>85863057Wouldn't say I was going for a minimalist theme, I'm really just trying to learn as much about making shit sound nice, mixing shit together better and hopefully that will help me express ideas better. I'm just sort of picking different genres and trying to make very basic version to see what I enjoy making the most. I might just be destined to make super generic/boring music. Couple older things likely all suffering from similar problems.https://instaud.io/3ii8https://instaud.io/3ii9https://instaud.io/3iia
>>85863226>>85863226when i call a gay FAG and he is offended does it mean he is not gay? think about it troll ass cuck boy>Do you expect me to take offenseit's not about taking offence. Its about realizing when the anonymous poster is talking about YOU and telling him to FUCK OFF with his gay ass attitude
>he fell for the tape saturation meme
>>85863226and i wanna add if you really are decmarcus.. well i always thought you were retarded but then even retards have some dignity and stand up for themselves so i don't know what THE FUCK you are(don't read the following if you were not pretending to be demarcus) demarc, if you're looking at this thread sorry man i didn't mean it when i said you're retarded
>>85863386dont say sorryi really am retarded
>>85863252I respect that, forget what I said then about the boring part. Keep on grinding. I figured you were using a hip hop kick because I do that too (I have a big ass collection of vinyl recorded drum samples) and I've made a similar "piercing" punch kick in my older songs. I also used them for house and the like too, we have a lot in common around that! If you're lazy, the sample is fine it just needs to be balanced with EQ, and yeah that side chain doesn't need to be there as much because your kick already has the presence.Please don't resign to being a boring musician because there's lots of fun in experimenting. I can't help with the chord progression or whatever because I write my midi by ear. The biggest problem I think you have is not giving your hit hats and drums enough love. 3iia is REALLY nice, compared to the others. Sounds like trillwave. If you're ever willing, lets work together, my contact via soundcloud is my secondary account "https://soundcloud.com/niffstazzy." >>85863283BASED
>>85862791aight i'll make those less loud.. guess this is a result of the speakers I listen on, I get told this a lot. watery sounds like what tho?
>>85863421Thanks for the help brother, I'll for sure keep workin' at it. I'm guessing by giving the drums more love, you mean carve out a bit more space for them, and give them a bit more emphasis? Also, thanks and it was legit me just trying to make some shit that sounded like Clams lmao, oh and I'll make sure to keep your info around for the future
>>85863594rain, water drops, underwater bubble noises, water draining, that kind of thing.>>85863630sounds good, gg, have a good day
>>85838942On vocals EQ first or creative effects first?
>>85846846>>85840171Zappa and the mothers released freak out in their late 20s
>>85863872https://clyp.it/jb5n41dnadded some quiet water dropsand also constaint rain sound, but that ended up sounding like static. went to remove it but i kinda missed it so left it in. a lesson to be learned here
>>85862856I don't think it'll ever sound like it wasn't recorded on a shitty laptop mic if that's what you're asking.
>>85863384It're really not a meme, I just se all my gains right and run the master through two tape saturations in serial and boost the out gain on the frst til it sounds loud enough.
>>85865368post an example
>>85865368what's the point of using tape saturation for boosting the output? why not a simple trim/gain instead?
>>85865313fuck it, then.>>85864616I think it sounds a lot better, needs more polish ofc but its a big step in the right direction. Less is more when I say that chirpy keyboard doesn't NEED to be in there as much as it does, with reverb on the drips and some chords here and there to guide the progression it can sound just as good. Going for a jazzy sound?
>>85866449do you mean the keyboard as it is in the beginning or the middle part where it's just chords?i'm kinda having trouble following your second sentence lmao, do you mean you find the reverb too much on the keyboard or too little and what do you mean by drips?
>>85838942Lol, how many of you fags actually bought pricey equipment only to learn you don't need it and you suck anyway?
>>85867159not met. pirated ableton and use laptop mic
>>85867159Are people actually dumb enough to not learn how to use gear?
>>85867159Imagine calling yourself a “producer” and not even be able to conceptualize plausible benefits of a hardware workflow
>>85868659i love all music regardless of how it was produced (BYOND gaming midi DJs represent) but there is something different about physical instruments creating sound than synthesizers. The church I sing at from time to time has an excellent reverb that makes my $50 yamaha acoustic sound absolutely gorgeous
>>85852378>>Not gonna lie all of your shit is like caught between trying to be emotional and trying to be hard. You're trying to make melodic shit but don't understand music theory.What that other guy seems to be saying is that you need to pay more attention to the arrangement aspects of your music. Your tracks suffer basically because they lack tension and release, which critically depend on elements like development (i.e. introducing your main melody gradually over time, teasing the listener with changes and surprises along the way), variation (the most basic way to introduce surprise), and functional harmony (i.e. the dominant chord (tension) and the tonic chord (release)). These things are simply not optional, they are that important. You will hear them nearly everywhere.
OH BOY ANOTHER DAYImma finish a trappy from earlier and then make some TECHNO (:
>>85865801Not at my desktop rn.>>85866078So you get the effect of it being recorded to tape nicely (some light saturation) then rerecorded louder (saturating that saturation and hysteresis).
>>85869931What is techno?
Thoughts on this?https://clyp.it/tqvxj1rfI've still got a lot to do, and need to mix it when I get my monitors, but how does it sound overall? I don't hear lows at all on my speakers, so I don't have idea how it even sounds.
>>85870504were they fucking with you about it? i missed that what happened???i don't have a good definition but i disagree with "oh you know, just anything that's 4 on the floor 909s that's not house lawl".... because that's not even close to a strict rule.it's like uh.... beep boops.... and it's repetitive. the grooves are quantized..... you got acid that focuses on 303 sounds.... ambient that's like ambient... dub mixing techniques to varying degrees.>>85870473>then rerecorded louderalways volume match mate
>>85862633how do I properly mix and master
>>85862779I CHIME IN WITH A HAVEN'T YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF MIXING YOUR GODDAMN SONGS!!!!
how to sing high notes without hurting my voice >>85862112except for mine, you forgot that
>>85863386Not me. I probably shouldn't have made my profile public again. I thought I was doing a good thing because some people here seem to genuinely likely me for some reason and I'm "inspiring". Even if I hate myself and hate what I make and get made fun of I figured it was worth it if I'm helping other people in some way. Is that cucked to say? >>85869370>Your tracks suffer basically because they lack tension and release, which critically depend on elements like development (i.e. introducing your main melody gradually over time, teasing the listener with changes and surprises along the way), variation (the most basic way to introduce surprise), and functional harmony (i.e. the dominant chord (tension) and the tonic chord (release))Yeah I've definitely been ignoring all of that because of not being able to focus (I really need some fucking weed) and I don't take trap music seriously. But now I want to make real music, or something, I don't fucking know.
>>85871710>except for mine, you forgot thatlol
>>85871934 you can be sure
>>85871739>I figured it was worth it if I'm helping other people in some waynot cucked, pretty based. The work ethic is admirablebtw download the 9th wonder kit so you can copy tyler
which key, /prod/ https://instaud.io/3ip7https://instaud.io/3ip6
does ableton have something like fl's zgame visualizer?
>>85872206>btw download the 9th wonder kit so you can copy tylerI didn't know about that, I'll try to find it.
>>85872419No, but there are many visualizers you can use as MaxForLive, and you can do some basic video editing.I don't think there's a way to do both those things combined.
Is Max for Live still fucked in ableton 10?
>>85871739Yeah, that was me.Thanks for making it public again man. Pretty based thing to do.
>>85872781crashing on loading often
>>85872717>>85872820they updated the bundled version to 8.0.2 I'm not sure if this is bad in terms of bugs but loads faster than before
hello /prond/ I was very bored so I made a boring trackhttps://instaud.io/3ipqit really isn't music, is it?
>>85872755You're welcome, man. I'm gonna try and release an EP soon. To Bandcamp. And hope niggas buy it. So I need to go all out and try to get good.
>>85872853fuck you this is great
>>85872853how the fuck did you even make this
>>85872853OH OH AN AMBIENT BUDDYQUICK what delay and reverbs do you use???
>>858730451. go innawoods2. record rain on shit-quality phone* in different locations (by pond, in field, in dense bushes, etc.)3. mash it together with a couple ambient loops I hadn't done anything with4. add 'verb, echoes, etc.walah*phone quality is important because it makes it sound like its being played on a burning log
>>85873209I'm stealing this from you I downloaded it and I'm gonna use it for my Twin Peaks themed mixtape
>>85873141whatever sounds good>>85873335hell yeah
>>85873402>whatever sounds good.........OH THANKS
https://clyp.it/user/0nhqlukhtried the tape saturation meme. but I think my compressor settings ruined the master. what do you think boys
>>85873638why do you have cool sounds but the songs and mixing are like ????
>>85873667might be a few reasons.. i mix on old ass shitty speakers, i tend to mix every other track differently because i'm a plugin hoarded and i gotta try every plugin out (this particular one is a tape saturation plugin + that CEIL thing that's free, maybe the sounds i make are kinda cool but they are hard to mix?? idkalso my computer starts getting underruns halfway through the mixing stage and sometimes i make decisions without hearing what i'm doing (cause it's crackling)wow writing this out was kinda helpful actually
>>85873768>sometimes i make decisions without hearing what i'm doingbro why
>>85873868idk, cause I think I know how it's going to sound I guess
>>85873638I dunno about that saturation thing.But I do like your songs man. I think I heard already some of them hereThing is your melodies combined with decent song structure actually create an emotion. And while maybe I don't love the drums and the bass (they're ok) and there is definitively room for improvement overall, you actually have vibe in your songs, which is the most important thing in the endThanks, maybe I learned something from this
>>85869210You're aware most gear talked about here is in fact one form of synthesizer/drum machine or another, right?
>>85874198That's bad!print to audio!!!Learn your plugins!>>85874329can of worms there bro
>>85874299thanks man :) although i'm kind of hurt on the drums and bass thing>>85874502>That's bad!you know, until I actually wrote it out here it didn't cross my mind it could be hurting my mixes... lesson here is we should keep diaries
>>85874588>although i'm kind of hurt on the drums and bass thingsorry I know you put in a lot of effort in them, but I dunno that's just my taste. They might grow on me with time
>>85874588>lesson here is we should keep diariesi keep a text document on my desktop and look at it every day before and during producing. >habits to stop doing>concepts to try >sounds from other people to copy>sound design to do listdoubles as a writers block buster to.... or for days when i'm too depressed but can still manage to work on something more brainless like just experimentingiirc in a RZA interview he talked about the routine for the Kanye crew while recording MBDTF and over breakfast everybody would discuss how yesterday went, what they're going to accomplish that day, and then what they'd probably do tomorrow.Everybody needs planning and reflection man
time to die, thread... PSYCH
i dont know if either i actually killed my brain and creativity with work, or if it's bad depression summed with that i grew such a large ego that i can't consider anything good enough to be recorded and saved on my ideas/riffs folder.,
should i start focusing on improving my homestudio for i can start ad'ing (and charging) for recording people?
>>85876688I wouldn't pay you to record me
>>85876688Focus on your own skills first dude
Why does everyone in these threads always shill Serum? What's so good about it?
>>85873638piano beat is best. fix the bass though.the first three tracks' melodies don't match the carti beat like bass
>>85839699They are the easiest because they are "on-rails".
>>85876736 thats included on improving the homestudio , kekbut my skills are pretty good already, look https://instaud.io/3irD
>>85870969>https://clyp.it/tqvxj1rfsounds good anon, maybe better arrangement towards the latter parts, would dance
>>85876741the fact that you can make your own wavetables inside the synth in different ways and the way you can modulate things is also good but everything else is absolute shit imho, at the end it barely matters because it's the only synth capable of doing what it does currently
>>85866602bass is way too muchpiano sounds very muddy, focus on higher freq and add counter melody
>>85876818Stop telling me to listen to you wtf>>85876741Custom wavetables and very good effects/filters. Clean sound. A lot of wave morphing options. TONS or resources and tutorials.Serum doesnt even so everything massive does though, it's not the end all be all. It's a must have for most people though>>85876932>it's the only synth capable of doing what it does currentlyFucking thisI prefer everything about massive that's not exclusive to serum apart from some of the effects
>>85876984>>85876932Thanks. I don't know Serum at all, and I have massive but I barely understand how to use it. Embarrassingly, I still use 3xOSC for everything. Guess it might be nice to pick up and learn about.
>>85876984LISTEN TO ME
>>85877029Posting it over and over doesn't make it better fuck off Sammy we'ee not here to pump up your ego
>>85862112Softsynths instead of hardware
>>85877147 you talked about my skills so i posted it to show im good enough to start producing others
>>85877286Not to be mean but you're not
>>858770243xosc is great, being so minimal and lightweight it pushes you into doing interesting things and it cuts through the mix nicely with its shitty digital sound, you should also look into sytrus and harmor, I actually learned fm synthesis from a sytrus tutorial on deviantart
>>85877370Sytrus confuses the fuck out of me with the giant switchboard of knobs, and I don't understnad FM synthesis all that much. I watched tutorials before but i've forgotten. What's the difference between FM and subtractive?
>>85877400subtractive is all about carving frequencies from waveforms using filters, fm is more about adding them by feeding an oscillator into another and essentialy creating something comparable to distorsion while doing that, you can find a more technically correct explanation if you're willing to searchhere's the first part of that tutorial, you should be able to find the resthttps://www.deviantart.com/blackhole12/art/Sytrus-Synth-Creation-Part-1-75704794>furry avatar
listend 2 sum flume and made dishttps://clyp.it/lap3gqz1
>>85877636Sweet thanks, I'll give them a look.
>>85877953not him but yah you should probably start recording others. you're def a better producer/songwriter than an engineer though.
>>85878084>songwritersimply covering others work does not make one a 'songwriter'
>>85878084>producer of rock>engineerBro
>>85878114oh thats not his song?
>>85878197All of his uploads are covers lol
>>85878197he is incapable of writing his own music
>>85878278>>85878318oi shit mates hes fucked
somebody please give me Ominsphere, Nexus, or Serum Please If you have it Upload it for me
>>85878639look on rutracker or whatever site has been mentioned a million times here
or ElectraX>>85878711torrenting gives me anxiety and I can't do it on my current laptop
>>85878735anything someone will upload if they would will be from a torrent
>>85878834>anything someone will upload if they would will be from a torrentyes but I would not be torrenting it