Waltz edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CShopT9QUzw>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious: >>119194942
Khachaturian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPp3Qh-GRqs
Shostakovich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmCnQDUSO4I
i don't know, some perverted japhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJuEtmCUZ_w
This one I got from some polish anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPhnDLv_oAs
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTu6g2TqC8
You guys ever play Persona 5 Royal? I would recommend you give the game a try, that and its spin-off Phantom Strikers. Here is a ost waltz that I deeply enjoyed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRNANDjS6z0
Schumannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkxrPdBpgQ
>>1192668031st for Paganinihttps://www.youtube.com/MEWZR1SwlDQ?si=ix-aigkkzcWABmEv&t=73
>>119267006https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEWZR1SwlDQ&t=73
Purcellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7AbzbN-MqA
>>119266803currently listening to Verdi's Requiem, I feel.
>>119266863>>119266948not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
What is the goyslop of classical?
>>119269313Unfortunately debussy
>>119269313Brahms.
>>119269313chopin obviously
>>119269313John Williams
>>119269313All of 'new music'.
>>119269313John WilliamsHans ZimmerOrchestral-only renditions of WagnerVideo Game music
How do I listen to fugues? Should I always perceive the voices or is it a "texture" most of the time if I don't intently focus on a particular voice?
>>119269591Mindraped.
Why is he still remembered? What did he contribute to music again?
>>119269773by what? or is this just a bot replying to random posts? becauae out of all spammers these mind rape ones make the least sense
>>119269710Head and tail
>>119269803That one climax in the first movement of his 2nd piano concerto about 7 mins in (fricken sweet lois)
>>119269313Pachelbel's canon in D
>>119269803Some of the best melodies in the canon. Also the concept of developing variation and very inventive phrasing.
>>119269313Philip Glass and all memeimalism
>>119270346>Brahms>Some of the best melodies in the canonAlso he didn't even create developing variation, total meme.
>>119269313André RieuThose awful Rousseau-style piano videosTwo-set violinYoutube clickbait compilationsThose awfully overplayed pieces that you hear on every other commercial like 4 seasons and that Boccherini Minuet.
which composer would break the fishtank?
How do you go from this
>>119271774To this?
>>119270400Who created it then? Also nice contrarion opinion. Nobody but nobody calls Brahms an unexceptional melodist.
>>119271774>>119271789>retard learns about babyfat
>>119271805You're never going to make Brahms a great melodist. It's not a thing and never has been. Literally everyone shits on his melodic originality but praises his formal skill. That's what Brahms is, and expectably he had insecurities in this direction. Yes, he can make very moving music, but the melodies and themes themselves are all watered down Beethoven and Schumann. It's generically romantic and for that reason it's very rare anyone can remember a melody by him.>Who created it then?Obviously Beethoven, if you're aware of the diversity of his form, but more than that it's just something that's appeared throughout the romantic period except Brahms made it his whole thing.
>>119271970>It's generically romantic and for that reason it's very rare anyone can remember a melody by him.
>>119271970I mean I'm not even biased. I don't listen to that much Brahms but I can recall a ton of his melodies. This is absurd.
How can one man make so many people seethe?
>>119272105>implying there is anything wrong with righteous indignation
>>119272026>>119272070>doop doop- duhhhhh- deeh dooh dadaWow so beautiful and gentle Brahms melody!
>>119272138there is, you are just wrong.
>>119272146Melodies can be any number of things (in fact in any great composer's repertoire they ought to be) not just gentle and beautiful. This melody is killer but its neither gentle nor pretty (any good melody has beauty).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwy0F8CkuxlHowever the reason I didn't post Brahms is simply because I can't think of a particularly harsh melody in his catalog. Meanwhile as far as pretty and gentle melodies go, just take your pick!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWoFaPwbzqE
>>119272257Fucking youtube! Here's a replacement for the first link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJdAPnlL8kw
recommend me choral music based on this playlist i've been curating
>>119272257And fuck again! I forgot to add the timestamp. Anyway, I was talking about the third movement.
>>119272292https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rga_arg7JPo
>>119272292https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SDmbv6_yXo
>>119272795respectfully, this is operatic while the music on my playlist is largely subdued and meditative.
>>119273009You get what you get, faggot!
>>119273009There's the more subdued traditional choral that comes later in it.
>>119273009>this is operatic while the music on my playlist is largely subdued and meditative
I don't really like Schoenberg's music and I know he is a jew but I just find something very endearing about him. Is this jew mind-control or something?
>>119274080no. Listen to whatever you want. Appreciate all the art around you.
what are the best and worst chopin pieces?
>>119274140Well like I say I'm not a big fan of his music but I am trying to understand it and I've heard some of his lectures and they are very comfy. I think maybe its just that somehow attractive people tend to not fill the old person niche well while some unattractive people grow into it better. Schoenberg just seems like a kindly old man. I looked at pictures of when he was young and he is butt-ugly same with Stravinsky but they really pull off the senior look. Or maybe I am just nuts.
>>119274234Like Liszt just doesn't make a very photogenic old guy. Brahms had to get fat and grow out a santa clause beard and looks like he would kick your ass up and down the street. And Bartok just looks like he visited the fountain of youth at some point.
least superficial /classical/ thread
What's the cutest classical?
>>119274234his use of developmental variation is interesting but you bringing up those lectures of his intrigued me just now. Is there a playlist or something you could link me?
>>119274506excellent question tranime sister
>>119274566Bad news. I just said I was listening to some of his lectures because I listened to one and saw there was another and was presumably going to watch it but apparently its just a mirror. As far as I can tell this is the only recorded lecture.https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=c_4LnBU8e_w
>>119274857I'd still save this for later. Thanks anon
>>119274506Mozart (very underrated composer underground)
I had no idea Purcell died at the age of 35, he was very prolific.
>>119275565It was a different time, that's for sure. By the time Beethoven comes around you have a fraction of the output of previous composers. The aristocracy was unironically a good thing.
>find mono recording>virtualization: 65%aaaah now it's listenable
>>119275738Quality > quantity you nitwit. But maybe quantity was good as learning exercises.
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5lQPhPbh-8
>>119275812You say that but at least 90% of all Mozart Purcell and Haydn works are good and people only ignore them because there's so many and they ASSUME they can't all be good.
>>119275857In Mozart the trend was already starting and the average piece by him is of a much higher quality than Haydn.
>>119275812Personally I can never get enough Mozart. I still think Mozart has more truly great pieces than Beethoven probably. Though obviously proving it would be prohibitively time-consuming.
>>119269313Wagner and all his derivatives. (ironically)
>>119272026He's right. I've listened to my share of Brahms and couldn't recall a single melody. I'm genuinely trying right now and I can't.
>>119275857Most based comment ever in a /classical/ thread
Was Milhaud the last great contrapuntalist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8iiXFmszuA&ab_channel=JacquesThibaudStringTrio-Topic
>>119276022https://voca.ro/1kS8lGU0NCLV
>>119275979Superhero theme comes on and I'm like "ohh yeah!".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_VfkgpQzOY
What is he thinking about?
So after Genesis Suite I decided to try Hexameron but I didn't see much point; its basically just a Liszt piece. The other composers probably make up a third of the entire piece at best. Even Chopin's movement is under two minutes. Liszt just runs roughshod over the whole thing.
>>119276344>why was i born in belgium
>>119269313If you aren't constantly looking at the clock and waiting for it to be over, it isn't real classical.
>>119271970so true sister
>>119276130Honegger was better.
>>119277121At counterpoint? Examples?
>>119275894>I still think Mozart has more truly great pieces than Beethoven probably.But Beethoven has more truly great 'stuff' pressed into each piece.
>>119277333Can't argue with trips I guess.
>>119275543so true tranime sister
>>119276683Yeah the country of Binchois, Obrecht, Des Prez, Arcadelt, Clemens Non Papa, Django Reinhardt, Brel, Toots Thielemans, De Rore, Willaert, Front 242, Peter Benoit, Wim Mertens and Adolphe Sax. What a terrible music tradition they have over there.
>>119278269https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrvXoin9NcA
>>119275543Which of his pieces are the cutest, anon?
>>119278321I don't know, which ones?
>>119278349Eine Klein Gigue definitely tops the listhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_e45fzNhWg
>>119274506Satiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuWmVaUoFw
Any composers who composed under pseudonyms?
Any old recordings of full operas? As a proud hisster sister i like the early singing styles much more than the modern sound
>>119278321excellent question tranime sister
>>119278594excellent question tranime sister
>>119278594That's not a thing
>>119278574Yeah but I forget whom
>>119269313Vivaldi and Verdi
>>119278594Vibrato is for adhd sufferers who don't like to focus on hearing the overtones. They need the pitch to constantly "heckin' change" like a tiktok video.
>>119278692Opera never stopped using vibrato. Don't know what to tell you.
>>119278737But it did start.
>>119278737And that's the problem...
>>119278594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckkyOMSxBkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmLniM2cichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5vSRcgxA4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ryQa4Ozw0
>>119278798Okay but we don't have any recordings without it, except maybe some HIP baroque shit.
>>119278886thank you hisster sister
>>119278927It's only HIP or HISS. Caruso didn't use it and neither did any of the classic Bayreuth singers.
>>119278886Thanks lad. Any ones from Mozart?
>>119279093https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGfB1wMdgJIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS3z2yeNpqghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tn3AiU0HcU
>>119279201nice, any of tchaikovsky?
>>119279271mostly recordings of arias and shit that i know ofhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQGKNPr1ZLchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUVFay0oVsQdo your own reserch man
>>119278594https://www.marstonrecords.com/collections/opera
>>119279093>>119279271thank you tranime sister>>119279201>>119279302>>119280553thank you hisster sister
>>119269313That would be Dvorak
Do you imagine that a piece is an anime ost of characters fighting if it gets intense, or a cute SoL soundtrack if it's calm?
>>119266803How do I set text to music? What to look out for to make it better?
>>119281212>>119281246excellent question tranime sisters
>>119266803check it out, Armenian musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8CQLZu7DY
Recommendations for a good video recording of Saul? Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Stu7h7Qup8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWoMede2GlEWhat is the best Phillip Glass stuff?
>>119281828>glassTry >>>/vg/.
>>119281855KYS
>>119281828really foul
>>119282127Glassworks is very nice. The concerto is video game music tier though.
>>119272292https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-mSmEfLmZchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wk3-3tjAPA
>>119278692Vibrato was always present in music in some form, you're not a special snowflake for having stupid opinions.
>>119282837Sorry, I meant the operatic type of vibrato. Or just heavy vibrato in general when it's overused.
>>119282148insanely retarded
>>119282148>Glassworks is very nice.
>>119283021This piece is so simple and relatively easy to play, but it comes across as so full of feeling—as if an entire symphony were playing.
>>119283371totally braindead
>>119283383I had goosebumps again. I saw many pianists playing Glass' Opening, and all they was mading circles with them body. It is incredible the "round" state of mind this piece causes. It seems all the universe is moving in circles, and we can "listen to" it. Only Debussy did something like that.
>>119281828I discovered his music in 2008 when I was 14. On an autumn afternoon, It was a very overcast rainy day in Los Angeles and I looked out my window to see the skyline gradually disappear into the dense rainy clouds. The rain was cold and when I opened the window I can smell it and feel the gusts of wind blowing in. Again, I listened to this album in Washington D.C. and Virginia on a very grey and rainy afternoon as I rode past the Potomac river and all the large government buildings - the music emphasizing the gravitas of their brutalist architecture. But for some reason it made me think of rainy days in New York before 9/11. So grey, cold, wet and melancholy, yet so beautiful and ethereal. A chilly nostalgia rains on me when I listen to this.
How to get into classical composing? I need a manual for dummies
>>119283803Look into species counterpoint.
>>119283854Thanky you, this sounds very helpful for my interest
>>119284193Np anon, also look up Alan Belkin on youtube, he has some based playlists.
>>119283410absolutely moronic
Berliozhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWzyz0nnak0
>>119283021Nice analysis. You totally aren't a typical reactionary schizo. Let me guess, schonberg isn't music either?
>>119284376mindbogglingly asinine
>>119284486incomprehensibly shallow
>>119284514unimaginably dumb
I just found out otto klemperer was jewish and now I have find another recording of Haydn's Symphonies :/
>>119284803unspeakably pedantic
>>119284824resolutely idiotic
What is the background music of classical?
https://youtube.com/shorts/QVG2mItvCd4?si=ue3q7PWNEKYLPWEs
>>119285199Chamber music
>>119284376>schonberg isn't music either?He is.
When writing a fugue, how acceptable is it to alter the subject for the answer, for example so that P5s between subject and countersubject do not become P4ths when inverted? Or should I just try to avoid P5s as much as possible so that this problem doesn't occur?
>>119285199https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ISbKtpKdE
>>119285419source?
newfren here, qrd on the "hisster sister" meme?
>>119285719sorry. You're not as important as schoenberg's third string quartet.
>>119285719It's an expression used to denote a man of highly artistic and refined taste in recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5nDMiyDXgfinal movement sounds like circus music...
Listening to violin etudes and caprices is my crack cocaine.
>>119285919Favourite ones?
>>119285907What makes something sound circusy? Is there a music theory basis for clown music?
>>119281212No, I don't play make believe; I'm not a tranny.
Its up!https://thefim.org/fso/fsolive2/Password: 11182023
>>119286481Sorry, starts 30 minutes in. They play the overture to Bernstein's Candide before that.
>>119286114theory wise I'd think it has something to do something with harmony but basically I'd chalk it down to any set of melodies that sound overtly whimsical with a loud 4/4 rhythm (+ if there are accordions and harpsichords involved). Harpsichords are perfected by buxtehude.
>>119285812Meds!
>>119284376Schoenberg and Glass are binary opposites. It'd be like making a comparison between Wagner and Johann Strauss Jr.
Y'all don't know jack shit about music except maybe 119286563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PYNsiwmIOo&list=OLAK5uy_miN6cu7aXZQD_8Q5KppxU7Jto6HeFEbDA&index=1
>>119286928>t. 119286563
>>119285537P4s are consonances
>>119278594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TjEoAXzJ9E
>>119285537Invertible counterpoint is its own thing. You shouldn't invert the subject unless its designed for it.
>>119285852so true hisster sister>>119286093>>119286114thank you tranime sisters
>>119286481no one asked, retarded shill
>>119287362Did I ask if they asked?
>>119287420no one asked, retarded shill
>>119282837In Wagner it was only very rarely used by singers as a special effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gjbxJsg8mYTo an ordinary man it would sound like a jumbled mess, but in that jumbled mess lies the theophany. This is not merely music, there are visions and codes embedded in these notes. Wagner wanted to send a message to the future generations through his music, but we who drowned in superstition and materialism were too fucking blind to perceive his greatness and legacy. There lies something very dangerous in the abyss of Wagnerian music, be careful lest it rape your mind.
>>119284816just listen to Jews
Brahmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaNWjImTw6Y
>>119285719old recordings have hiss because recording equipments were shit. Lots of those performances are good though, so people listen to them anyway. There's an autistic spammer who hates recordings with hiss and so spams "hisster sister" as an insult to anyone that posts them implying they're transexual ("sisters"). It started with a hatred for wagner so you also see him spam "wagner sister" a lot. Most likely the same autist as the two-word poster.
>>119287347stupid stupid nigga
>>119269313Mozart and Beethoven are the Call of Duty and FIFA of classical music.>>119266834Why do so many women call 2nd Waltz beautiful when it sounds so sinister due to being in minor key and melodies evoking Jewish themes Shostakovich was so very fond of?
>>119287884>encoded messagesIs it something about transitioning or realizing your hidden self?
>>119287884>To an ordinary man it would sound like a jumbled messNo it sounds incredibly simplistic.
>>119287884Pure Dionysian sloppa
>>119287998thank you jokeexplainersister
>>119287980Before Brahms became a total bore.
>>119290030When was that exactly
>>11929004570s and 80s.
>>119290030>>119290072>Brahms>ExcitingWould rather listen to a shrieking mule for hours than any of his symphonies.
Brahms was the worst fucking musician in history of mankind.
God wept the day Brahms was pulled out of her mother's womb.
Fuck Brahms. Fuck his music and fuck everyone who listens to his music.
>>119290210>>119290223I see you have a new hobby horse
>>119266803Recommend me short modernist pieces from The 1920s-1950s if possible.
I don't get the point of this thread, you niggers don't even like classical.
>>119290459What? Book chapter verse
>>119290459I don't get the point of this reality, 5000 years of civilized monkeys dancing around to their interpretation of existence, but we never answered the main question itself.
>>119290943Instead of answering, we should have just listened. That's what nobody else did.
>>119290943>50007500*
Who are some composers that retired?
>>119286093https://youtu.be/YRwDEcRR3Wk?si=LuOUSpbE_8HObmDEhttps://youtu.be/QXy-IEoAPeQ?si=-RmeahymmrQriL8Phttps://youtu.be/G01Y2DRCkYE?si=FZkWTncHRyVItSOWPlease excuse the phoneposting.
>>119291534Phoneposting hasn't been a thing for the past decade. Everyone has a phone now.
https://youtu.be/0rkJqlIlK7Q?si=fVGgnUE3_23fUxTz
>>119291473Sibelius, and lived another 30 years.
>>119291721Bastard! His notes for his 8th are kino
>>119291773Didn't he burn it thoughever?
>mfw people ask me if I truly think Schoenberg’s music is noise
>>119292024Its okay anon, we need Uber Eats drivers as well as composers.
>>119292070
>Well, I wish you good night, but first,Shit in your bed and make it burst.Sleep soundly, my loveInto your mouth your arse you'll shove.> lick me in the arse, quickly, quickly!
Antonio Vivaldihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGvaBZtfks
>>119292070>not just being on disability neetbuxAnon...
>>119292215How do you think the composers are paying the bills?
Schoenberg tried to save music but failed
>>119292498He preserved it for like another 50 years from the influence of the eternal negro.
>>119292125Do you think he ever ate da poopoo?
>>119287682Any vibrato-less recordings of wagner that remain nowadays in that case?
https://voca.ro/1nuQtwiiVidaDoes anyone recognize this piece? It came to my memory, but I don't know the name of it.
>>119292865i recognize it but dont know what it's called or where it's from... feel like i've heard it in a movie or something
>>119292666With the influence of autistic academic Jews instead! So just further dividing art music from art audiences and even the possibility of the impetus behind popular appeal, leaving music to the satisfaction of the very lowest impulses.
>>119292865Delibes' Flower Duet
>>119292931The only Jews after Schoenberg in the atonal school were Feldman and Babbitt. Both tertiary American composers who embraced Jazz.
>>119292952It doesn't exactly change my point.
>>119293052It undermines the antisemitic conspiracy theory (this coming from a guy who thinks Jews control global finance).
>>119293083It's enough for them to disseminate their ideas and (((influence))) others to accept them to do the damage.
>In 1933, Schoenberg wrote an open letter to several Jewish musicians, emphasizing the need to “make the Jews a people once again, and unite them under a government in a determined and precise territory.”>"It is the task of Israeli musicians to set the world an example of the old kind that can make our souls function again as they must if mankind is to evolve any higher."
>>119293176Except Boulez did all the damage with this piece.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZpNlxoXpQg
>>119293083It was just a descriptive, the point is that atonality and the era of mere intellectualism it inaugurated killed music.
>>119293320Well blame the darmstadt school that excised theme and pattern from music, not the SVS (albeit Webern did a lot of damage).
>>119293320How do we revive music?
>>119293383Schoenberg might as well have no theme.
>>119293531Tonedeaf nigger
>>119292936You're amazing, thank you!
>>119293588Np fren
>>119293478Look back at the common practice period through the various alternative experiments of modernism (which in themselves unfortunately never led to a tradition-- but may still). Sibelius, Bartok, Strauss, Debussy, etc. Or just go full folk music.
Why did Schoenberg anon flip back to liking Schoenberg? Anyway glad to have you back.
>>119293634Sibelius and Debussy lead to neoromanticism, you dumbass!
>>119293650THAT'S A UNIQUE ALTERNATIVE IN MODERN CLASSICAL MUSIC YOU RUDE PERSON.
>>119293642 It's a complicated issue.>immediately found I could still into similar-style thematically driven atonal pieces I hadn't heard before, like Stockhausen's Formel>around Canadian thanksgiving suggested the Piano Concerto as halloween music my brother could use for his display (at the very least its probably unsettling)>he says its "beautiful and peaceful">play opening of the piece for everyone else in my family there >they all think its nice. My step dad says he could see it as old movie music but its not his cup of tea. He is a lounge-singer who has made his own songs, albeit few and more arrangements. >assume its just how normies hear orchestral music>play a bit of Cage's Prepared Piano Concerto as a control>nobody likes it (things are looking good) >even play Stravinsky's Movements for Piano and Orchestra>they don't even like that (its a good piece but this means the late-Stravinsky is even less accessible than the Schoenberg)>tell Ratner the opening of his Trio reminded me a lot of Schoenberg >he says he can see that harmonically but asks does Schoenberg have as much of a sense of melody?>overall I think Schoenberg is probably a better melodist than Ratner (though I didn't say that to him to avoid the resulting flamewar) but in particular that melody is not even that strong. >If Ratner's issue with Schoenberg was melodic and not harmonic, then I really had to reconsider taking his opinion on Schoenberg seriously in the first place. I mean my entire issue was that some of the harmonies sounded ugly again and I couldn't anticipate what notes phrases would come in on.>make a third transposition of the piece a minor 6th up >weird I can follow along a lot better. Not as powerful as the original but I can anticipate or am at least not surprised when various figures come in and most importantly nothing sounds ugly in this new version. Its like I triangulated the objective piece from acclimatizing to the other two transpositions
>>119293698There is no "tradition" anymore, just various schools. The tradition should just be classical form thoughbeit.
>>119293856Also, I got to thinking maybe the concept of roguelike music is actually pretty cool. There are some roguelikes with nice assets, like Shiren the Wanderer and Schoenberg is probably more aptly compared to these than Dwarf Fortress, which would be like Babbitt. Cage would be more like a random code generator where no game could exist to begin with.But I'll say upfront I was completely biased and looking for any excuse to recover my opinion of Schoenberg.
>>119293864YOU ARE DUMB. The point is that a tradition or various traditions should be made from one or many of those schools. Though they can hardly be called schools since for the most part they were just dependant on a single famous composer.
>>119293966I don't even know what you are trying to say. I think all contemporary classical music needs is a return to a melodic sensibility. This is what is missing from all classical music now, be it tonal modal or atonal. What you said should happen is happening already. Are you saying it should be taught in schools or what?
>>119293899>roguelike music>>>/vg/
Any good contemporary Russian or Japanese composers? I mean those who haven't taken the no-melody jewpill.
why is fagner considered so important for film scores when verdi was clearly so much more influential?
>>119294255Most tenable retarded /classical/ take.
>>119293991>What you said should happen is happening already.No it's not. You suffer from retardation and can't read properly.
>>119294255Lmao
>>119287998>>119288015thank you hisster sister
Could a HymnChad give a recommendation? I'm trying to find a good version of Stille Nacht that starts with a good soloist beforethe choir joins. This version would be perfect if the audio quality were good, so anything like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxrBhZvvSIQ
>>119276154Here's 5 more Brahms that came to mind. The first 3 come from just one movement of the Piano Quartet. Brahms is maybe even the greatest melodic inventor. The third one is my favorite Brahms melody.https://voca.ro/1n5sEaqA7OnB
>>119294754https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0?si=QT6ntuiYb9jNkTqi
>>119294838I thought you were getting better
Recordings of operas with less obnoxious vibrato that aren't 100 years old?
>>119275749for me, it's only fixing the pitch
>>119295196https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLqXimltxsg
>>119294866https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0?si=QT6ntuiYb9jNkTqi
>>119295196excellent question tranime sister
>>119295238Fuck home, fuck sleep, come clean, zonin'Can't forget that I'm golden, can't forget where I'm goingFuck popo, police, enemies, fake homiesCan't forget that I'm a OG, better act like you know itBlunt smoke, smoke weed, codeine, coughTell that bitch that I'm awesome, better back the fuck up off meCoco, Céline, Tiffany, she flossing
>>119295238I have a first pressing
>>119295501What?
>>119295250Come on, you're not even trying. That's barely anime. The character has a nose for one thing and its clearly not avatarfagging anyway.
>>119295196Just listen to the Bayreuth classics. 60 years is less than 100.
>>119295196 Seconding this>Listen to an Opera>Beautiful orchestration>Great composition>Voices are absolutely unlistenableWhere did this cancer trend of adding so much vibrato you can't even tell what fucking note is supposed to be played come from anyways? Why did it get so prevalent in opera?
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ExPHfyL6Q
>>119295974Snooze
>>119295591>>119278692>>119278737>>119282837>>119283006>>119295196>>119295591Its called wobble, not vibrato that you're having an issue with. It's fine to use vibrato, wobble is the obnoxious loud screaming "vibrato" that fluctuates a whole step
>>119297600Bro thats tremolo at that point
>>119297607This. Wobble is not a technical term
>>119297637Got a better name? Wobble is a type of vibrato that is unpleasant to listen to and doesn't follow the Bel Canto style of singing (which does have vibrato, but a much less obnoxiously and more listenable than the wobbly mess that is opera singing post 30s).
>>119295484>>119295501https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0?si=QT6ntuiYb9jNkTqi
>>119295553so true tranime sister
Any opera recordings with this kind of singing? Something focused more on beauty than loudnesshttps://youtu.be/jsy5IfueNBc
>>119298592excellent question HIPster sister
dear wagner group sisters, I watched Lohengrin yesterday, it was really great. now I finally saw all Wagner operas live he approved for Bayreuth except the masterrace singers of the Nuremberg trials, which I simply don't get warm with.and no seat neighbor this time telling me that he watches the same Wagner production for second time already.
redpill me on developmental variation
>>119295591it's just bad singing technique. good vibrato sounds beautiful.
>>119295553Anon, it's a bot.
>>119298753>rifkin>HIP
>>119299041so true tranime sister>>119299398so true HIPster sister
>>119299041I wish
>>119299024Wagner recording wtih good vibrato right NOW
>>119299513https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUWsyVJzWV4
I listened to Wagner this morning and fell asleep.
>>119299822How is he going to respond?
>>119272292you probably already know ockeghem but incase you don't he was a major unifying figure in terms of the bringing together the styles of the different regions of europe particularly the netherlandish, english and central french ones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cIrSw7XLFcpierre de la rue was a belgian composer from the period just after ockeghem at a time when the franco flemish style of music was arguably at its height during the time of say, josquin. and you can even hear some of the trademark technicality of ockeghem in his music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIHnBKULrr4john dunstable or dunstaple was among the most influential english composers of his time, known for cementing a style that was called affectionately by foreign composers as the 'contenance angloise' or english countenance which attracted much interest from the bergundian/french composers who subsequently would take this influence back home with them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QPm2FE-bVktallis shouldnt need an introduction as he's the poster child of the choral composers of the tudor period in england and is still relatively popular especially his spem in alium, a motet for 40 voices, although my personal favorite is his third mode melody, which has a number of settings, some being purely instrumental.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4fHU0Naleswhen most people think of the venetian school, monteverdi comes to mind, but he wasn't born in venice. maybe adrian willaert comes to mind, but wait, he wasn't born in venice either... giovanni gabrieli on the other hand was a bona fide venetian who lived and died in venice. in my opinion the best representative of the venetian school, unique, slightly eccentric, industrious, maybe even a little too overconfident or sure of itself, a sign of the optimism of the times. times that wouldn't last.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdo_o_ibUb0
Reminder that microtonal music is trans-coded.
>>119301207that doesn't mean anything + not funny + you're underageI hate modern 4chan humor so much
>>119301432Post I least agree with albeit ong no cap sheesh
Vocal wobble is annoying as fuck to us, too, I am so glad I don’t have a Wagnerian fach so I don’t have to listen to that shit on the regt. professional opera singer
>>119301628>t. professional opera singerhow good is your head?
>>119301724unfortunately I’ve never had the chance to suck dick so I couldn’t say
>>119301745today is your lucky day! Open wide
>>119299589Would be better with no vibrato.
>>119301761Being gay isn't funny bro.
>>119299822>>119301761thank you tranime sisters
What are some very chromatic modern masses?
>>119303528Ligeti Requiem
confess your sinshere's mine: I don't care for much of Beethoven's Missa Solemnis
>>119304242I believe Wagner both blessed and cursed the earth with his creation. I just can't move beyond him. Its truly over for me.Valhalla awaits.
>>119304242I don't really compare recordings much. Most pieces I just listen to the most popular result with a recognizable name.
>>119304242not understanding the missa solemnis just means you dont understand late beethoven.
>>119304242bach is probably overrated
>>119304242I don't really like Stravinsky much.
>>119299822Tfw Wagner melody randomly pops into my head throughout the week even though I don’t listen to him.
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