I had a teacher in high school who loved these two dykes. Always hated them.Anyone else?
>>113755976honestly never heard of them
>>113756015You were lucky. Must've been born in the late '90s or later.
>>113755976I wouldn't go so far as to say 'hate,' but Bruce Springsteen doesn't have a single good song in his decades long career. Just a smattering of terminally mediocre and boring bullshit his whole life, and he'll go down as some kind of legend for it because people are idiots.
>The BeatlesI just don't understand the fanaticism. How you can say a single negative word about them and their fanboys will come out of nowhere and write you an essay about how important and innovative they are and tell you that your favorite band wouldn't exist without them. I just think they're way too boring to inspire this autism. >Pink FloydThey have some killer songs but for the most part they just don't do it for me. >SpringsteenI'm from the south so maybe that's why he's never clicked with me
>>113757331>>113756150SameI’m from the north and still Springsteen does nothing
>>113756150>>113757331>>113757531I'm with you guys. I wouldn't go as far as to say I hate Bruce Springsteen, but his music is just banal.
>>113757331these three plus the grateful dead
>>113755976Why haven't I heard their name in 20 years?
I hate Led Zeppelin.
Everyone here so far is correct. I would add XTC, prefab sprout, and John prone to the pile of overrated shit
>>113757941Lol Jesus died for nothing I suppose I hate that fucking cringe bullshit song
>>113757941shit, sorry.John Prone Bone *
>>113755976Do not get why people like Crass and I listen to some pretty fucked up shit.
>>113755976So, I don’t like Stephen Malkmus. In my opinion, he makes good music most of the time, but he is such an evil man. Because he feigns as a decent and liberal person, but I know deep down inside he is a huge nazi/authoritarian type. That man hates freedom with a passion, and for that, I have to say I am quite the anti fan.
>>113757590I hate him for the most part but "Im On Fire" is a decent song. He should have not wrote about my hometown though.
>>113757871Led Zepplin has been another band I have been grappling with. I love their music, but it gets subliminal in an uncomfortable way when you really listen to what they are singing about. It’s like they’re trying to program you at all times rather than simply expressing themselves to you. Again, I actually like Led Zepplin alot but, that was always something that made me appreciate them at more of an arm’s reach.
>>113755976David Bowie, pedo fuck was celebrated until the day he died and faced no reprecussions for his actions in the slightest.
>>113758182Crass is a subversion of what you would expect a seminal punk band to sound like; To me they were mostly playing what we would call no wave/noise rock/avant rock ect... But because they were in the punk scene that label just kinda got slathered on then in an awkward way. I feel like Crass is more akin to Sonic Youth in that they greatly influenced the scene and are loved by the scene, but where at the same time, not a part of it.
>>113758588Its not that its their lyrics
>>113758279Where you from? Youngstown?
>>113758615What do you mean?
>>113758244>Because he feigns as a decent and liberal person, but I know deep down inside he is a huge nazi/authoritarian type. That man hates freedom with a passion, and for that, I have to say I am quite the anti fan.You're making him sound based. What's your problem with him?
>>113758824My problem with him? Him talking shit about the Smashing Pumpkins on Range Life. That made me understand a little bit what he was about...But then, in Gold Soundz, when he is singing “Cuz you’re empty; And I’m empty, and you can never quarantine the past” “ We need secret cret cret cret cret cret crets right now.” He means every word of that. He is an empty souless person who has done horrible things to people, which is why his bands B sides and out take tracks are horrible. Because he’s fake. He has to put on a show to sound good.
>>113758824It’s beyond being a “problem”. There no problem, although I can point out instances of clarity of his character, those are not problems. The reason I don’t like him is because he is a of a different worldview than mine, but in a profoundly dark and negative sense. Sure, what ever black magic he uses helps him write hits, but it’s not worth that cost to listen.
>>113758665he must be from my hometown
>>113758917Alright, that's valid.>>113758971>The reason I don’t like him is because he is a of a different worldview than mine, but in a profoundly dark and negative sense. Sure, what ever black magic he uses helps him write hits, but it’s not worth that cost to listen.What about him is so fundamentally against your deep-seated beliefs that you can't separate the art from the artist?
>>113759014>What about him is so fundamentally against your deep-seated beliefs that you can't separate the art from the artist?Well, I still listen to and enjoy Pavement’s music. Everyone has a bit of a darkside, but let’s just say, I wouldn’t enjoy Mr. Malkmus’s company too long.How do you feel about Pavement and Stephen Malkmus. I’m curious to head your take on them.
>>113759097I don't know their music, so I want to know what exactly is "Nazi like" about this musician. I ask this as a lifelong listener of Ian Stuart Donaldson and Skrewdriver.If anyone would know what Nazism in music sounds like, it'd be me.
>>113759277Look at the prominency of the colours, Black, White, and Red on Slanted and Enchanted. It’s just like what they say, a picture paints a thousand words.Everything that the band Pavement does has an undercurrent of objectification, of unrepentent desire, and a masked, impotent rage. It’s like they were trying hard to be themselves, and they gave up and chose hate instead. That’s what’s nazi about them. Because being a nazi is sublimating who you are to something greater than yourself, but which is ultimately finite. The opposite of self-actualization. When someone chooses infinity, they never end, they are timeless. Pavement is very much of their time.
>>113759277By the way, ISD was ironically a decent person, and less of a nazi than Stephen Malkamus, simply because he was being real about how he felt. ISD might go ahead and beat up people he didn’t like; However, people like Malkmus, if given the chance, would systematically plan the murders of thousands of people.
>>113759369Again, I never listened to a note of their music, so your assessment is about as valid/invalid as anything else you've said. I don't feel possessed to check them out, but this assessment you have of their music appears to come from a liberal framing of Nazism. Undercurrent of objectification, unrepentent desire and masked impotent rage? This academic word soup doesn't at all convey a coherent message without any reference to their actual lyrics. On the contrary, what's an example of someone who has chosen infinite and self-actualization? I don't mind others that engage in the abstract or theoretical, but I personally prefer the concrete and real because that's what counts in day to day life.
>>113759414That's an interesting assessment. How would you compare GG Allin, Penny Rimbaud, Jello Biafra, Poly Styrene, Vi Subversa or Kathleen Hanna?
>>113759431>but this assessment you have of their music appears to come from a liberal framing of Nazism. Undercurrent of objectification, unrepentent desire and masked impotent rage? This academic word soup doesn't at all convey a coherent message without any reference to their actual lyrics. You’re seeing the forest for the trees; The actual national socialist ideology and their values is not what I’m referring to, or most normies are referring to, when I say “nazi”. What I mean is that, those emotions of the desire, rage, masking, lead people to create ideologies like nazism to cope with the feelings, but it’s a negative reaction; A deducing reaction, A destructive reaction. “Nazi” is more of a shorthand for “controlling; bad” both coloquially and the way im using it.>On the contrary, what's an example of someone who has chosen infinite and self-actualization? I’ll give you three:Warren ZevonAdam DuritzMike Shinoda>I don't mind others that engage in the abstract or theoretical, but I personally prefer the concrete and real because that's what counts in day to day life. I feel you, but you gotta understand that most of what I’m saying is based on what I listened to on Pavements albums. I could give you more song quotes showing it; Showing the void, but it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because, when you listen to Pavement’s music with a full and lucid awareness, you become aware of their nature, on the very way their sounds are structured and produced. It’s like the difference between hearing a acoustic guitar playing a G chord, and an electric Guitar playing a G chord, with loud distortion. When that distortion comes on, you know shit’s about to go down.
>>113759450I only know GG, Biafra, and Hanna, so I’ll go with those three.GG Allin was an autistic psychopath that, rightfully so, desired revenge on his abusive family and the society that rejected him, and others like him. To me, GG Allin is a hero amongst me.Jello Biafra is a boundary pusher. He likes pushing the boundaries of what’s acceptable to induce goodness and chaos in the world. Sometimes he can push a little far, but his judgement is sound. Kathleen Hanna is a smart woman with a lot to say, but too frigid and scared of herself to be a force for good. I feel like she has fallen to the void over time, but Bikini Kill was cool and it gave women a brave alternative voice to listen to, that they never had. In many ways she reminds me of Sigourney Weaver, but unlike Sigourney, I feel like Kathleen Hanna has many authoritarian tendencies.
>>113759431Also, ISD chose the infinite. Listen to boots and braces again.
>>113759450Also, listen to The Other Side by The Anti Heros
>>113758244Of all the ways you could attack Pavement/Malkmus, that's the approach your taking?
>>113759542>Adam Duritz>Mike ShinodaSo you're a legit schizo now aren't you? You say Pavement sound of their time yet two of those are so tied to their time that no one outside it isn't even aware of them.
>>113759369I mean I kinda agree, but I don't think its cause he's a nazi. I just think that's more him being a young slacker and a smug smartass
>>113755976Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen
I absolutely loathe Brandi Carlile and how she's dragging Joni Mitchell out of retirement to further her own career. Disgusting.