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Early Romantic edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjcDVmV0Zhw

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

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Cello >>>>>>> viol*n
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1VbmFC8988
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Bonjour
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hate jazz
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Remember to compose something everyday.
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I'm not sure if this is welcome here but hopefully I'll be extended some good given this is pretty thoroughly romantic.

I'm trying to make some solo guitar arrangements of romantic repertoire, inspired by how popular parlor guitars have gotten lately.

My starting off point for this one was this Schubert Waltz that my piano teacher assigned me, I at first tried to arrange it for a key that was comfortable for guitar but I think I ended up just using it as my launching pad. I am using a steel string guitar not a nylon, as it's kind of my pet issue that steel string guitars should have some place in the art music world as well, more in line with German, British and Italian traditions.

I'm not looking to be flamed or wanked off, but I'm too inside this piece - I am wondering how it sounds to outside ears. Does it have any sense of the melody carrying through, or does it just fall into guitar doodling?

https://voca.ro/1myMDaNbhC92
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>>111230422
That is really quiet. Did you write it down?
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>>111230506
I'm going to come off like a dumb kid but no, I don't have it written down and I just recorded it on my cell phone. I don't really have mics and stuff so I don't really know what I can do about the volume. I appreciate your time listening to it.
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>>111230422
its a bit sterile
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>>111230422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSaT6R4dgM
just write some variations and call it a day
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>>111230581
Thanks for the feedback. That's something I was worried about. It feels hard to strike a balance between enough ornamentation to be interesting but not just dumb guitar wanking.
Did you listen until the return to the original key? I only ask because I wonder if you think I should go for thay level of ornamentation (obviously more varied) throughout
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>>111230612
This is a really good repertoire suggestion, so kudos. But also - at the risk of sounding too prissy - I'm basically going for exactly the opposite of the Spanish guitar sound which is what seems to be fully embraced here.

I'm really interested in the 19th century parlor guitar style that existed I'm German speaking countries and Britain. It was like people using steel string guitars to play the same type of repertoire romantic pianists did. Silent Night was actually composed in that tradition.

I realize that Spanish guitars are really thoroughly romantic too - but to me there's almost like two "poles" of romanticism. The more twinkly, star like Germanic stuff and then the more fiery Latin stuff. If you'll bear with my autism, I feel like the classical guitar repertoire leans too far towards the "fiery latin" stuff. I realize that's really generalizing but I feel I'm not totally talking out of my ass.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYiQuNAuvJI

This is one of the best songs I've heard in my life. You guys have any suggestions for classical music that's similar?
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>>111230793
Without sounding like a douche, you'll probably have better luck finding this same type of sound by looking for European folk music, especially italian polkas Poland tarantella and Spanish flamenco. "Classical music" sometimes uses these types of mood as a flavor within a larger work- but if you're looking for solely this feel I think artists in Flamenco and European Polka are going to be more up your alley.
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>>111230893
Woops the word "Poland" literally just appeared in front of "Tarantellas".

I don't know if Polish Tarantellas exist- but you want Italian ones.
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>>111230793
https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0
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>>111231027
Fag
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>>111230793
Definitely Baroque. Maybe Monteverdi's Madrigals.

On the other hand this is very emotional, in a intentional and specific way which is only in contemporary music, like Sakamoto, or at least late romantic. Maybe Bizet?
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>>111231061
https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0
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classical is homosexual no exceptions.
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>>111230422
>>111230689

https://youtu.be/NO11jeFWgR0

Anon. You just check this out. I’m right up your alley.
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https://youtu.be/-CNrGqHKoa8
This is ridiculously better than sex.
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>>111229502
Salut poto
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Wagner if he wrote lieder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j6vy8M0KFs
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>>111231297
Wow thank you anon this is a great link. Is one of those guys you?!
I'm actually a voice undergrad so having lied with good guitar accompaniment are gold for me.
If you'll allow me to attention where a bit I'd really appreciate any feedback, positive or negative on this.
It's a lied Mozart wrote for mandolin and female voice. I'm doing it on the mandocello so the key goes down a 5th and it suits a Male voice.
https://voca.ro/1myMDaNbhC92
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>>111231530
Here's the second page for posterity.

I'm faking the German so if anybody has any pronunciation critiques thatd be welcome. Also, does anyone know exactly what "Vom Zeichen" means here? I took it to just mean play the chords with an accent.
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>>111231530
Sorry, I’m phonefagging and it corrected “it’s” to “I’m”. But I do know the guy, I wrote a song for him last year. Do post your voice though, since there’s a huge lack of musical OC on this general.
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Also to leave something that isn't me.

Some amazing solo vocal music from the French too. https://youtu.be/1cfBppWaSQA

"My thoughts are a swan on the water"
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>>111231778
That vocaroo is me, singing and playing mandocello accompaniment. I'm just a student so I don't have any good mic setup or anything but I'll try to post sometimes if it's welcome.

Obviously my voice isnt as developed as all these guys. Kudos btw, that's really cool
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>>111231530
>>111231778
>>111231831
Oh woops,
I got the wrong vocaroo link. Pardon me

This one is this singing and mandocello Mozart lied, if anyone is still willing to give it a chance after my absolutely retarded display above.

https://voca.ro/194WXEUgzOXL
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>>111230793
https://youtu.be/mmnkyqdZJfU
https://youtu.be/dSozk9R9ouI
https://youtu.be/MbbRTCaLOcw
https://youtu.be/2CC2wUmOD6Q
https://youtu.be/nIczjSfjq4E
https://youtu.be/NECXKAPwCjw
https://youtu.be/rLBdBhqSDgA
https://youtu.be/wvfz23jZz6c
https://youtu.be/qGIM5HdnY4g
https://youtu.be/xDy8kK1-g6A
https://youtu.be/I6Njg1LFxFk
https://youtu.be/Gv6SLY6t4rE
https://youtu.be/cKkDMiGUbUw
https://youtu.be/QxHkLdQy5f0
https://youtu.be/W0PFGvIYYR0
https://youtu.be/RZ0LtbQSqIQ
https://youtu.be/r0m21rGZXx8
https://youtu.be/KwQie_hc2uI
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>>111231364
https://youtu.be/1M9FKp89kj8
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>>111231870
>>111231831

I will not say that it is of great quality, but I will also not insult it. Thanks for posting your playing and singing, and for inspiring others to do the same.
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>>111230793
https://youtu.be/Mdr4nETvFKc?t=840
timestamp 14:00
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>>111231364
Wagner wrote some great lieder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4aIsk0JtE
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>>111232104
Oh, well if you want to criticize it that's what I posted it for. You need to expose yourself to objective reality to be able to move forward.
I just posted it here instead of /gg/ (where I did post it before) because that's just flaming about my voice sounding gay.
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>>111232170
I wonder, does the prize song count as a lieder?
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>>111232634
yes it even has a violin adaptation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4n9kUbzmGY
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>>111230354
luv I-IV-V
luv circle of meme
'ate minor fourths
'ate nigs
'ate japs
'ate improv
simple as.
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>>111232698
> 1-4-5

What is this Chineezy shit. We just need 1 and 4. We pelagial, dont need no rythm neither
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>>111232782
>I-IV-V
>Chinese shit
but muh german baroque, also it's not "rythm" unless that was intentional, idfk
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>>111232956
https://voca.ro/1miU9QAPlHI5
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Ponce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqevXZFPUM4
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>>111232689
Kek. Isn't that one of his least liked works?
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>>111233336
>u gay

Seems to be the refuge of a simple mind desu.
https://voca.ro/1lU06cu4aL8c
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>>111233335
is that a classical guitar or uke? sounds nice.
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>>111233652
Thank you anon. It's a little ukulele that's tuned like a mandolin.
Some well known composer actually wrote for the mandolin, but our modern bluegrass mandolins are pretty different than what they would have had.
(Kind of like a baroque violin -> a modern violin)
They would have had gut strings and only single strings while modern mandolins have doubled steel strings. My target was a "mandolin cremona" but without a bowl back.

I was learning a Mozart song for the mandolin and working at a music shop at the same time so I got to experiment. It's a standard soprano ukulele off the shelf.

The bottom string is a standard "low g" ukulele string, but the other three are actually fishing line. (40 pound 30 pound and 20 pound ).

There's standard sets of "ukulele 5ths", but everyone on the web says the top string breaks immediately and I had the same problem - so I stole their fishing line idea which comes from Tahitian Ukuleles which are tuned an octave e above a standard ukulele and tuned all with 20 pound test fishing line.

At first I had a set in 5ths and just the top string as fishing line, but I found it was really hard to transition between strings while tremolo picking like that because of the difference in thickness. The bottom g string is wound and so has a fundamentally different sound but I mostly use the bottom g string for a drone note anyway so I really like this setup.

Sorry for the blog post. Hopefully it stayed within "interesting" and not "info dumpy". I'd be happy if other people played the cremona ukulele.
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>>111233748
This is a cremona mandolin picture I found on the web
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>>111233766
And this is my "cremona uke"

I'm not a boomer I swear
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I don't like the Romantics. I switch off after Mozart or Beethoven and switch on again with Debussy. And I haven't got the patience to listen to all those bloody Biedermeier Lieder.
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I feel that a lot of 20th century classical music that is still regularly programmed in the 21st century, was composed by men and not women, and by men alone without any collaborators; in other words, I suspect that much of the "modern" classical music programmed today is not fully representative of the musical contributions that men and women - working alone and collaborating - made in the 20th century.
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>>111234002
Based
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>>111234002
Cringe
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Epic
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>>111234875
I agree
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>>111234875
sneed
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>>111234002
more like depussy LOL
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>>111235547
more like memesussybussy LMAO
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Is everyone here just a total poser? Or am I too intense?
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The only composer between Beethoven and Schoenberg that mattered was Wagner
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>>111234875
Well Messiaen is a great composer so that's a good thing
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>>111233748
sounds incredible. Love the interesting tid-bit too. Literally the only time a uke player sounds good and not that gimmicky shimabukuro player. Anyway, I want to return the favor so here's me playing some diapershit solos on guitar, feel free to ignore my pathetic instagram unless you want to witness cringe and swarthiness.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeNdRitl2yM/
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>>111236826
Speaking of Schoenberg in the same breath of Beethoven is sacrilege. As if Beethoven was leading to Schoenberg.
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>>111237357
Agreed. Obviously Schoenberg comes from the lineage of Mozart, not Shithooven.
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>>111237371
this, so much this
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>>111237371
HOLY FUCKING BASED
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>>111237371
OMG YAAAAS QUEEN SLAYYYYYYYY
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>>111237243
Wow I really appreciate it anon. I peeped your Instagram. You seem chill
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>>111237767
thanks man, best of luck to you. Try playing classical guitar, with good fingerpicking like yours it would be relatively simple. Plus it'd be really fun.
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Was Brahms the master of openings? He has so many iconic entrances in his compositions, even in his bad ones.
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>>111237967
Yeah too bad about those endings.
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>>111238303
what about em
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j6-spkGXjY

What a god tier opening, I mean really
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>>111238528
ikr so fucking metal
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>>111238428
N- nothing sir.
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https://bach-cantatas.com/Topics/Sex.htm

>His music is VERY sexy, actually. Every aspect of his life has to be somehow related to his music. Indeed, the soundtrack to a rogering is a pretty obvious possibility in interpretation of the keyboard fantasia BWV 922. Especially the buildup into the last page with the pounding chords in the left hand, and then the way the texture changes into the Presto...and then the more Adagio type of ending, after that.

it just CANT be real. it cant be. one of you guys better find this faggot's address. what you do with it doesnt matter to me just do SOMETHING to make them think twice about sharing their opinion.
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>>111238917
i sense a potential petzold copypasta material
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Found rare Wagner pic.
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>erhaps the Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue is a musical description of what Sebastian did to the unrelated young lady in the organ loft that day? We'll probably never know. But it is very sexy music. In years past, way past, I used to slip the George Malcolm recording of the CF&F in between a stack of blues and acid rock LPs and play it for my pre-stoner buds. They all loved the Bach, and some of them described it as "This is an orgy for the senses. A Bach orgy."

>Speaking of 'sexy' music, I agree this Fantasia definitely requires a 'triple X' rating; with its unbridled passion it is not suitable for the devotional mood required in a church service.
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>>111238955
i hate that i agree
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Perhaps the Minuet in G major is a musical description of what Christian did to the unrelated young lady in the organ loft that day? We'll probably never know. But it is very sexy music. In years past, way past, I used to slip the Yo Yo Ma recording of the MiGM in between a stack of blues and acid rock LPs and play it for my pre-stoner buds. They all loved the Petzold, and some of them described it as "This is an orgy for the senses. A Petzold orgy."

Speaking of 'sexy' music, I agree this Minuet definitely requires a 'triple X' rating; with its unbridled passion it is not suitable for the devotional mood required in a church service.
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shit i confused yo yo ma and lang lang kek
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Schoenberg or Schönberg
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Damn. Ormandy's live Schubert Unfinished is pretty good. Maybe a bit too string heavy, but with how he gets them to play... I'm not complaining.
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what's the last thing you saw live
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>>111234025
women are terrible at composition
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>>111239659
when did he do a live unfinished?
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>>111239953
In 1967 with the Concertgebouw. It's in that Anthology Box, the 1960-1970 one.

https://files.catbox.moe/dk9ing.zip
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duHeV-a_lMw
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>>111236826
Is schoenberg actually good? never listened to him lol
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>>111231311
furtwangler sucks cock.
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Sturm und Drang was the greatest aesthetic western music ever achieved. It was just downhill from there (not necessarily technically, but aesthetically)
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>>111239522
Schönberg.
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Opera is the most beautiful music known to man maybe the most beautiful thing ever. Sucks it's gay to like though
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>>111242050
If you turn off rather than impress girls through talking about opera then you're beta.
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>>111242403
women who care about opera aren’t women, they’re wagnertrannies
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>>111242702
They don't need to care about opera, they just need to care about you talking about opera.
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>>111240953
Yes
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>>111242900
women who do either of those things arent women, they’re trannies
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This ars subtilior album is amazing.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m6BhIo4tDr3WZu52s0pNJJO9OYwVkhHCU
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>>111243558
Ars subtilior and music for the Chinese guqin/ch'in is the highest IQ music known to man. Renaissance Polyphony and Baroque counterpoint come after by a fair margin.
All the conceited Modernist/Postmodernist gimmicks are lame parodies of these ancient forms.
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>>111243622
hello zewen sama, go back to uploading gay score videos on youtube.
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>>111243642
You brought that guy up last time I mentioned guqin. I'm not him. I don't compose music or play an instrument, except guitar poorly.
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>>111243725
nobody believes this
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>>111243743
damn, I've been exposed...
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>>111243973
stick to your reddit account buddy
https://www.reddit.com/user/Zewen_Sensei/
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>>111237371
So true, so based, i kneel
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https://www.last.fm/user/ZewenSenpai
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Why do some people dislike Schoenberg so intensely?
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>>111239003
So this is what a superior German family looks like?
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Post some Schoenberg
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https://youtu.be/YSl33CgYwzM
Bartok.

Playlist https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLf0i_JoPQhI3j_f5gi99KTWqxk99zFzl
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>>111239003
Wagner looks like an old Oxford don there. Could be a history or literature professor.
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>>111244265
Lack of taste.
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>>111242050
I don’t like opera singing.
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>>111240038
Sounds pretty damn good for a live recording of 60s vintage
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>>111245598
Go on then. Post ONE Schoenberg piece that shows good taste rather than cheap dissonance gimmicks.
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>>111245686
Opera singing has to take on a very particular sound because of the nature of the performance.
Singers had to be able to fill an entire hall without amplification and over an orchestra. That's just the sound you get with a full voice.

I think there's a lot of room for the repertoire to be reimagined now with more vocal subleteties now that we do have amplification. But of course there's always the purists.

Some of the best writing - musically and lyrically - done is locked up in arias that a lot modern people won't hear because they can't stand the opera belt.
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>The opinion that Beethoven is comprehensible and Schoenberg incomprehensible is an objective deception. The general public, totally cut off from the production of new music, is alienated by the outward characteristics of such music. The deepest currents present in this music proceed, however, from exactly those sociological and anthropological foundations peculiar to that public. The dissonances which horrify them testify to their own conditions; for that reason alone do they find them unbearable.
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violist composers: bach, haydn, mozart, beethoven
violinist composers: pagaynini, ysaye, sarasate
violincel sisters...... it's over
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>>111246001
of course shlomo doesn't understand that there is such a thing as innate god-given receptivity to truth beyond "sociological and anthropological foundations"
dialectical materialists are so cringe
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>>111246080
>god
not real
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>>111246096
yeah 4u
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Best recording of Schönberg's piano works?
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>>111246161
i like pollini
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>>111246161
Paul Jacobs
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>>111245988
I doubt that.
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>>111246420
ayo this nigga died from aids
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>>111246102
That’s not how reality works.
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>>111246096
>>111246493
le tip
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>>111246096
If God is not real, then nothing is real.
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>>111246493
>reality
not real
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>>111246461
What a nonesense response. What do you doubt? Well attested history? That purists gatekeep uneccesarily?
apply yourself.
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Tarrega

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehsu1WuKygk
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Big Welsh gilf tiddies on me 'ead

https://youtu.be/oDLMu4qvMYc
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>>111246785
It's amazing how awful Jenkins' music is. Soft Machine went to shit when he joined.
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https://youtu.be/am2bckxm0WE
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>>111246858
https://youtu.be/bpvRSPQW7nc
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>>111246938
Wow, great rec. I'm listening to the whole album. Kudos
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>>111246673
That the best writing musically/lyrically can be found in operas.
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>>111247301
bach cantatas > op*Ras
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>>111247323
I like instrumental stuff.
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>>111247301
Oh, well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, although I appreciate that you elaborated, at least a little bit.
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>>111247409
I hope this doesn't come off as really pretentious but in the interest of trying to share the music I enjoy, I'll say that I think you're missing out by not seeing the voice as just another instrument.

I also think that in terms of instrumental performance, some of the best are excerpts from operas as well, and often rely on the interplay between the instrument and the vocals.

Without getting into discussions of qualifying the Messiah as an operatic work, I hope you can appreciate this example.
"The Trumpet Shall Sound"
https://youtu.be/13DpmWPV9IU

I think the interplay between the bass voice and the trumpet here is one of the best call and responses in music, and it's really heightened by the lyrical content. Music is really about conjuring a fantasy or painting a moment to me, and so I can't overlook how potent a tool the voice is in thay regard.
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damn this is based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slgjC19XU5w
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It's so easy to spot a young composer's piece. They always want to show so much work. It's a lot of notes, a lot of dissonant harmonies, a lot of everything. It's quite delightful. Reminds me of Brahms op.25. A passionate young composer wanting to show all he can do. It's such a nice moment for composers. I remember mine.
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I like Alfred Schnittke, who else should I listen to? I already know of Gorecki, Ligeti, Scelsi and Schoenberg
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kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcb6kaNrnQc
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>>111247015
Vienna's Klassik radio were just playing it.
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>>111247636
John Tavener.
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>>111247567
>>111247664
https://youtu.be/ViGxMEJsJyQ
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>>111242050
Opera is the dumbest cringest gayest thing on earth.
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>>111248649
https://youtu.be/36TdZx8VgbA
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>>111249469
https://youtu.be/B3Bf2-I_0S8&t=373
Holy kino
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>>111246161
Pollini is good. Jacobs is good. Worth hearing Steuermann on the RIAS set as well; he was an advocate of Schoenberg before it was cool.

My favorite 3 pieces is that live Arrau on BBC Legends though. He just nails the eeriness of the second piece like no one else.
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>>111247588
Op. 25 is still one of the most banger finales Brahms ever wrote.
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Bach cantatas are the dumbest cringest gayest thing on earth. Prove me wrong.
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>>111250751
operas exist
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what are some good viola lines in orchestral works? been looking for a list online but all i found was solo/concerto repertoire
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>>111250799
i said prove me wrong not prove that you want to be a woman.
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>>111245686
Dumbass
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>>111246080
>there is such a thing as innate god-given receptivity to truth
haha imagine believing this
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>>111251163
yes it's called the holy spirit chud
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Backhaus
https://youtu.be/HPAB0DzYlEE
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Llobet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVrv2xCL2VA
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>>111248649
I think this anon is stupid but anons how do I get into operas?
I can’t help but laugh when I hear them singing.
The only classical piece I can hear without laugh Is this vivaldi, and I think it has to do with the bad ass music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIxXMIie9XI
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>>111252669
Your gut instinct is correct. Opera is very cringe. Brahms was correct in that only instrumental music matters.
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>>111251559
i gave your mom the holy spirit last night
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Why is everyone shitting on operas? Good opears exist. Tchaikovsky's Voyevoda. Schnittke's Fausten. Zimmerman's Die Soldaten. Maybe you plebs need to lurk some fucking more
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>>111253070
repent subhuman
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>>111253091
Repentance is nothing more than a mask for algolagnia
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After listening to this entire piece, I've realized that, there's no need to create new ,music, only to perform it, and honor it:

https://youtu.be/8JZGiY--2LM
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>>111253173
So music died in 1822? Wait till the wagner sisters hear about this, you're dead biggot
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>>111253498
It doesn't matter.
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>>111253156
u're mum is nothing more than a sleeve for my cock
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>>111253084
all trash
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>Repentance is nothing more than a mask for algolagnia
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Simply the best music humanity is capable of producing. Even 1,000 years in the future it will be unmatched

https://youtu.be/8zR6kCD5HKs
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>>111230412
I don't know how to write music though
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Massenet

https://youtu.be/xLpAPsithig?t=79
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serious question. how do you not burst out laughing when you hear a bassoon
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>>111255359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXymDZdzeeQ
fagott
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>>111255404
none of those were written for bassoon, plagarizing cretin
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Simply the best music humanity is capable of producing. Even 1,000 years in the future it will be unmatched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjmT2joURLY
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>>111255460
I disagree
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>>111255460
>marriner
quite repulsive
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>>111255564
if you refer to yourself then yes
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>>111255574
mentally retarded
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>>111255639
you are mentally retarded.
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>>111255776
moronic beyond belief
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>>111255784
imbecile
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>>111255794
begone from my midst
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>>111255805
vile
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why didn't Wagner write any quartets? you're not a real composer until you write a string quartet.
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>>111245686
You might as well just listen to Ariana Grande.
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>>111256229
idiotic quip
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>>111253034
Brahms along with all the other conservative composers desperately wanted to write opera but couldn't. After Wagner put out a series of articles on how to write opera libretti and music Brahms advertised in newspapers for a librettist which led to Wagner's remark 'he think he's found a formula!'.
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>>111253084
Shit operas
Shit composers
Shit taste
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>>111255460
Yes, it's great.
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>>111239522
Schoenberg, as per his explicit wishes
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>>111252669
Have you listened to literally nothing? Start with the obvious excerpts and bleeding chunks from Mozart:

https://youtu.be/pDUyA-fVie8
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>>111256623
Did he hate Germany or something?
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>>111256387
do wagnertrannies actually
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>>111256661
do you have to ask
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>>111253084
>Zimmerman's Die Soldaten
Only good opera you listed.
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>>111256626
See I laughed, I didn’t wanna laugh though, what do I have to understand in order to not laugh
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>>111252669
how can you listen to a countertenor without laughing
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mid-to-late Romantic music is so disgusting. Thankfully Impressionism came in to save music somewhat at the end of the century, but it didn't manage to redeem the dark age that was the Romantic era
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>>111256895
Everything I said is a provable fact.
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>>111257392
Impressionism is utterly insignificant next to late Romanticism.
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>>111257597
>insignificant
hurr durr music has to be big and bombastic and have #deep serious themes to be great
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>>111257454
you not being a real woman is a provable fact, wagnersister
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some of my favorite pieces come from operas but i have never sat down and listened to one. it feels like most the time when i listen to opera music its like there's a tonne of generic filler-music that exists more for the sake of telling the story and depicting dialogue between characters than it does for the sake of presenting actually good enjoyable music. every once and a while there is an absolute gem of a piece that is god tier regardless of the context
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what part of don giovani is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdusbl-lJ3A
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>>111258175
Leporello Aria
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>>111258175
the better question is which performance is it?
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>>111257781
If you can't understand that some music is greater and more important than others, without recourse to the literal size of the orchestra, then you understand nothing about classical.
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>>111258619
schubert's g major piano sonata is greater and more important than any schmahler symphony
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Bros I gotta make a confession...
Barenboim's is my favorite Tristan
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Barry Harris is the greatest musical theorist of the 20th century... but /classical/ isn't ready for that conversation yet
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>>111258658
schubert sucked cock (literally)
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>>111259059
>isn't ready for that conversation yet
twatterfag detected
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>>111259101
Nah chud that was you last night
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>>111259117
well i am a chad stud so yes i was the one getting my cock sucked
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>>111259128
evidently not
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>>111259132
evidently so
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>>111259140
evidently i fukkked u're dad last nite
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>>111259144
evidently you did
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7hJvHaO_CA
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>>111259059
Finally a based take
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>>111254203
currently cumming in your whore mom's asshole
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>>111254629
Nietzsche didn't even say that quote you pretentious failure
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>>111259416
she has no asshole chud she donated her lower intestines for my neovagina
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>>111259456
nigga what the fuck is this image, kill yo self
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>>111259463
Answer my question low t anon
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>>111259475
you are a fucking fag nigga
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>>111259456
>>111259475
americano moment
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>>111259486
>>111259487
Get your t levels checked
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>>111259500
you first fat
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>>111259500
stfu clown you are a sexual deviant, rope immediately
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>>111259516
>>111259522
I could pin you both to the ground and fuck your twink ass out and you wouldn't be able to do anything sub-200lbs """""""""men"''"""""""""
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>>111259549
oh nevermind, if you tried to rope the noose would probably snap under your weight. just give a shotgun a blowjob then.
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>>111259549
go ahead and try ytboi
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>>111254946
if you thought the chorus for BWV 102 was good just wait til you hear the one for 103 pal.
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>>111259562
>>111259573
>t.
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>>111259650
no one asked for your gay reddit memes queer
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>>111259650
this but unironically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ei3ggrSARc
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>>111258984
Which Barenboim?
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Jordi Savall's HIP Mozart is really pleasant.
https://youtu.be/shgvgsSZ2nY
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>>111259713
The old one with Jerusalem and Meier
>>111259987
Love his recording of the last three symphonies but not a fan of most of his other Mozart for some reason
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>>111259650
I mean if he is fast enough then he can't be hit and if he can hit back he will win eventually
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Why listen to Schoenberg when Messiaen exists. It's like all the difference between German Jew autism and French Catholic taste.
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>>111260143
This but the exact opposite
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>>111260143
the french are homosexuals
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>>111260116
Yeah I just tried listening to his Night Musik and and Requiem. To be honest the post-romantic luscious sound made those pieces objectively better. Going back to a more classical evenness is a mistake.
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>>111257597
Impressionism brought texture to the forefront of music in a way we hadn't heard since Renaissance Polyphony.
https://youtu.be/gN_iQQVVZLM
https://youtu.be/TcJwaPGm-YI
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>>111260134
>and if he can hit back he will win eventually
No. He will just get tired eventually and wont be able to run away.

Gassing out is the most common mistake of people who have never fought.
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>>111260705
He's fast that means he will untire very quickly by regaining his breath faster
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>>111260816
You can 'regain your breath' in a fight (though unlikely), but that's not the same as regaining your larger sum of energy which you simply cannot gain back during a fight. It doesn't matter how fast you are, fight drain needs a very different endurance to running.
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>>111260978
>be fast
>get tired
>regain breath really fast
>eat really fast
>regain energy
>opponent hasn't even hit you yet
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>>111259463
It's a weight gain fetish (based) image. You're supposed to masturbate to her chubby belly and thick thighs.
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>>111261027
So you're just going to run away from the fight then run back and sucker punch your opponent?
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>>111256661
He changed his name to Schoenberg in "Deference to American practice" and also in the context of fleeing Nazi persecution.
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>>111261299
So we should call him Schönberg?
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>>111260243
What's the technical mumbo jumbo behind this?
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>>111261051
so retarded and gay
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Gradually, I learned to love Herr Wagner...
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>>111262507
congratulations on your transition sister
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>>111257597
Both are shit
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>Wittgenstein's father forced all of his children to memorise the entirety of Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg
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>>111263055
Based Austrian parenting technique
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Strauss
https://youtu.be/t8bC8WB9TgA
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>>111263288
>marriner
extremely rancid
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>>111263288
This is what Beethoven's Grosse Fugue was trying to be.
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>>111263345
How so?
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>>111263410
metamorphosen has next to nothing in common with the grosse fuge
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>>111263421
dogshit dry metronomic soulless conductor, should have stuck to dilating to HIPshit
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>>111256009
Chamber music is so fucking boring that the cliburn took it out of their competition
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>>111256009
Guess Bach isn't a real composer.
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>>111263589
Bach isn't a real composer, he is a Jewish composer like wagner considers mendelssohn who just copies existing composers like buxtehude
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>>111263607
So why did Wagner consider Bach the greatest German composer?
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Absolutely delightful.

https://youtu.be/R9982wYPPm0
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Western Art Music General
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>>111264385
the only kind of art music that matters
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>>111263942
Because hes a npc hypocrite like anyone else
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>>111256009
This pic is very funny
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>>111263589
Bach's concerti count as string quartets
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beethovens 9nth does not exist
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viola is such a gay sounding word and if you play viola cut your balls off.
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How to start with Mozart without the obvious pieces ?
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>>111263055
No wonder he was so smart
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>>111265642
Get a good box set of his chamber works. Specifically his string quintets.
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>>111265642
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m5X4kxf9cBtxr5_TgDwzBxlmSQvjDQlv4
Kino early symphonies.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL514BABEF0DA2FF51
Clarinet concerto.
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>that video of Glenn Gould explaining how (late) Mozart was a bad composer
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>>111265642
Haydn quartets
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>>111266424
is he right ?
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>>111266700
No.
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cockring +nietchze + wagner > bach
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>>111266700
Don't worry, this guy has autistically DEBOONKED it
https://youtu.be/LO4GtfSgp2E
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>Rush E
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>>111260143
Or listen to both and stop autistically squealing over pedantic nonsense like a woman
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>>111259451
guess i'm fucking you instead
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help an anon out. more like these victorian bangers? such strange songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GauIMo8Manc
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>>111268676
https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0
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>>111268734
holy shit anon what a trickster you are
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>>111268676
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m2o18V32I4ASWXKEQKNlLrY2Us-yy8z4w
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>>111268777
https://youtu.be/zpMdr9nBJc0
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>>111268822
>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m2o18V32I4ASWXKEQKNlLrY2Us-yy8z4w
cheers bratochka
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>>111268676
https://youtu.be/kKlPoRH9j2M
https://youtu.be/i3RYiLyAN0s
https://youtu.be/xGNKZaKTAQc
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>>111268934
it gets funnier each time you post this
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>>111259101
based schubert
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>>111264111
prefab sprout is /classical/
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stop liking schubert its cringe. stop it.
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>>111270647
he seems really good to me, whats wrong?
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>>111270666
he's a pedophile
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>>111228703
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