>ruins punk with retarded leftist drivel in your pathwhat the fuck was his problem?
punk was always trust fund vanity projects and was cringe
>>110507359only wankers (including joe) take strummer seriouslyhe wrote one good song, and its a pop song, not even a punk songthe whole rest of that brit gommie 80s scene kicked the shit out of the clash imohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIXnTIzRcIA
>>110507403explain the germs and gg allin then asshole ?
Dont care about his politics, but think The Clash are overrated. PIL mixed reggae/dub with punk better than The Clash ever did
>>110507403>be me >decide to watch the decline of western civilization >LA 1979/1980>it’s all ironic swastikas, punks calling each other faggots, causing a ruckus, FUCK THE WORLD mentality>watch decline of the western civilization part 3 >LA in mid 90s>it’s all filthy crust punks who don’t bathe as a protest against capitalism, woman screeching about abortion rights, fuck nazis that don’t exist >turn off tv in disgust
>>110507431the germs did too many drugs to be any goodthankfully someone gave em enough coffee before they recorded or theyd be entirely forgettable. miserable live bandgg similarly did too many drugshis saving grace is the jabbers album with wayne kramer shredding the whole timethat shit is TITShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4wiixYYtok
>>110507489What if I told you that both nazis and commies can suck my fuckin balls. Reactionary retards, they should all neck themselves. Grillers rise up.
>>110507489yea krustys are a blightand d-beat sux>LOOK MA IM RIPPING OFF DISCHARGE AGAIN>>110507512this guy gets it
>>110507512basedfuck authoritarian bullshit and the various "isms"
>>110507431based >pre-prison 1989 GG was his peak
>>110507534erryone thinks its gonna be them riding on the top of the tank in the peoples army paradedelusional faggots
>>110507359guilt for being a boarding school educated ambassador's son
>>110507512Based beyond all belief
fuck joes strummerpunkrawk thredayou guys like liquids?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTfEfQ_bltsall the tapes i have of them are btfo so im pretty stoked they re-recorded shit not in a tin can for once
>>110507715y tho?theyre pretty [spoiler]fun[/spoiler]
>>110507444That's because PiL actually mixed reggae/dub with punk, the clash just played a "punk" song and then played a reggae/dub song without any musical cohesion
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlsL5m1nirsthese guys were in the British punk scene?
>>110507788their 80s scene was a lot more lenient on bands that were doin weird shitin contrast w the US 80s HC scene where theyd prolly just get beat up
>>110507788Mick fucking Hucknall was in the British punk scene
>>110507849any dad says he saw them in New York in the mid 80s and it almost ended in a riot because they played a few songs then walked off the stage and left the guitar feedback blaring
>>110507900my dad*>inb4 zoomerI’m 33
>>110507900yea they had the whole "fuck you" thing down pat loland any other dad will tell you about the time TG played their last show and half of the crowd left after flippermany such cases>>110507917its funnier the other way desu
>>110507431He said>and was cringeLearn to read damn
>>110507504>the jabbers album with wayne kramerNo such thing; only a 7".
>>110508966a 7" IS a full punk album ya wanker
>>110509001You are young and retarded enough to believe this, faggot.
>>110509055no youre just a pedantic fag and im fucking with you cuz youre autistic>uhhhmm ACKSHUALLY its a 7" not an L.P.get a fuckin grip m8
>>110509105>I was only pretending to be a retard
>>110509137>maybe if i greentext at him hell stop bullying menope
what a bangerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPaupjFxoI
>>110509159>I feel bullied for thinking a 7" is an album; I will claim to be the bully and hope no-one notices I am the retard in the corner
>>110509220>record collectors are pretentious assholesim awarehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrbJZfbqzXk
Can we have a thread with more than 10 posts that doesn't mention political or social controversies?
>>110509394prolly not with punk desujust gotta roll with itwho gives a fuck?
>>110509344Enjoy your MP3s downloaded from YouTube, queer.
>>110509474cheers m8 enjoy correcting anons grammer on 4cucks
>>110509543>grammerIt just gets better.
>>110509159>>110509137>>110509105>>110509055>>110509001>arguing over stupid shit that doesn't matter>both people wanting the last wordunironically the most punk conversation itt
>>110509754this guy gets itsissy slapfights are based and at the core of the whole experience>>110509613better correct me then
>>110511131>grammer>better correct me thenLearn to spell grammar, you absolute retard.
Ear the goyslop
>>110507422>the whole rest of that brit gommie 80s scene kicked the shit out of the clash imoFor me, it's The Mob.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8xVkwiuLBoPure stinky cider Punk.
>>110512121>He voteslmao ok retard
Punk has always been leftist you fucking retard
>>110512502>MY ENTIRE IDENTITY IS POLITICS SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE POLITICAL AAAAAAHHHHHH SOURCEUnironically touch grass sweatie.
>>110512579fuck off back to pol, virgin
>>110512579Punk started as a political statement, it never was or ever will be for you. Goddamn you /pol/niggers are dumb.
>>110512502you are the retard
>>110512676fucking kek yeah sure pal the political statement against rush and boston and uriah heep and elp >all the fags in the audience raise ya hands!>…I see a buncha fags out there but none of youse are raising ya hands
>>110507512this. I'm a moderate liberal and I'm sick of all of the overly-idealistic leftism in my music scene. I'd take you guys more seriously if you didn't say so much dumb crap and hide it behind motte and baileys. Commit to the smart thing you said and never bring up the dumb thing ever again, because it was stupid. grillers unite!
>>110507551ThisThis dude knew what was up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqhkOSbEGfk
>>110512621>>110512676Is pol in the room with you right now? Meds.
>>110512676Umm...no it didn'tDee Dee Ramone: "We're about partying and having a good time".The British bands made it political. Joey Ramone: "[The Britsh Bands] are too political"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjd6-Heyjck
>>110512502>>110512621>>110512676The father of Punk.
>>110512379basedhavent heard that in agesits insane how good some of those recordings were in that scene. most punk bands in the states, if they even bothered to record, did so terribly
>>110513133i tell you what politics is:it aint funand it dont rockits also a very dangerous gamestare too deeply into the abyss and one day you might wake up and find yourself running for senatethe horror>>110513064this
is everyone here just bootyblasted that the clash couldn’t be confined to three-chord punk riffs after their first two albums and actually started making more interesting and experimental music? who are you guys, mike love? >don’t fuck with the punk formula!!!!!
>>110507431>Murder Junkies?!?!>…I thought it was the…GG Allin band…
>>110513633I actually think only their first album is legitimately punk, the rest is good too, but cmon. I actually think this is england is one of their best songs. but it’s a far cry from janie jones
>>110513666yea, my dad and I have always said that too about their fist album. there’s still some of that punk blood there in give em enough rope, but it’s definitely different. I’m way more of a london calling/combat rock/sandinista guy, so maybe I’m just not a big punk fan in general outside of a few bands.
>>110513633i just dont find most of what they did very interesting desuthey had some great pop songs but i dont think they really contributed too much to punk as a whole, other than establishing the precedent that you can "sell out" and still be "punk" (which is good imo. at least we get better quality recordings)and i like a lot of artfag punk bands so its not thatlike pere ubu is out past the moon, but they rulehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFYC3G8MUyM
>>110513723haha when I was like 11 my dad first showed me the clash by playing white riot and remote control, then threw on lost in the supermarket and I was like wtf
>>110513719>post ubu>scroll down>see dead boyswhat a weird synchronicitycleveland really is an incredibly important part of punk that gets glossed over in favor of NYC and LA and the like
The only good political punk bands are anarcho-punk groups like Crass and Rudimentary Peni because they actually live out their values and not aimlessly virtue signal.
>>110513559It's because most of the anarcho punk bands came up in the same free show circuit as the psychedelic/hippy bands like hawkwind and gong so they had a head start in that respect.
punk and rock n roll in general died with this man >I LIVE TO BE HATED
The only good political punk bands are RAC groups like Skrewdriver because they actually live out their values and not aimlessly virtue signal.
>>110513834Ray Cappo from Youth of Today also came from Cleveland originally iirc.
>>110513962For me, it's No Remorse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uWfpvNhvro
>>110513931thats a good point actuallymemetier politics it seems like it was a fun scene to be a part of
>>110514013>>110513962Recommend good RAC. Is Cock Sparrer considered RAC?
>>110513962You literally just copied my post verbatim but switched the political alignment. Skrewdriver makes crappy music. The guys from Crass are actually competent musicians.
>>110514166>skinheads copyin/inverting an established aestheticshockingthats punk tho innit?
>>110514094Nah Cock Sparrer aren't RAC althought they're popular with the old NF types. I like Brutal Attack a lothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXONs3-6CSEBut No Remorse are the best RAC band IMO
>>110514166>competent musicians.>PunkThe double standard lmao
Great live album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ZJdrHZy3I&list=PLiN-7mukU_RHmt_TE6SnjysUfHPSpT6vWJoe always came across as a middle-class tryhard who knew deep down he was a fraud. I believe he even ended up supporting the second Iraq war.
>>110514257>ended up supporting the second Iraq war.lolthese things happen i suppose
>>110514257Remember when they got chased out of Jamaica for being LARPers?
>>110514237ironic isn't it? The band who literally lives in a commune with no running water or electricity has better musicians than most punk bands.
>>110514257Crass wrote a song about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycBTNdk0mN8
>>110514237youd be surprised my dear jagsguyfor ex, afaik everyone in FEAR was musically literate. the drummer was a session guy
>>110514349id like to know EXACTLY how they used to mic their snareits very distinct
>>110514310>no running water or electricityLARP
>>110514450you seriously dont know about the farm?
>>110514351So lefty punks give it the big one about being untrained when they're not and then have a meltdown when RAC bands are self taught? Typical really.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vWZrAQbAE
>>110514166>You literally just copied my post verbatimHow fucking new are you?>Skrewdriver makes crappy music.You've never listened to Skrewdriver.>The guys from Crass are actually competent musicians.N. A. Palmer literally plays like a retarded child.
>>110514483I do, they're just known liars.
>>110514485I didn't say the members of Crass were trained, the rhythm guitar player was completely self-taught; you can be an untrained musician and be very competent (e.g. Jimi Hendrix).
>>110514485>fear>leftylol aight m8
>>110514501I did say in my last post that he was self-taught. And Skrewdriver are no musically better than any of their contemporaries.
>>110514013Great band. A lot of commercial bands have straight up stolen from them and Skrewdriver, because they knew the'd get away with it.
>>110514554>And Skrewdriver are no musically better than any of their contemporaries.Which era of Skrewdriver are you referring to? (I already know you've not heard their catalog)
>>110514520>e.g. Jimi Hendrix>>110514525Lots of smackhead cope in here
>>110514737I skimmed through a handful of random songs from various periods of their career and honestly, that's all I need to hear.
>>110514975see this why youll never rockfor one, you NEED music that affirms your worldview. even a lot of top 40s junkies arent that far gone. you crave more than anything to be told what to do.pathetic, and also severely limits what you can listen to, which itself is just a shamebut more important, youre incapable of separating any idea, be it an old or new one, from being viewed through modern full retard politics. its all us vs them/carrot + stick manipulation being played out in your psyche, likely done BY the guys you claim to hateyoure a dog being fed gunpowder, trained to go out and fight in this decades costume partyall i can say is good luck bud, and remember the guy telling you to go bomb federal buildings is NOT your friend, he works for the FBI/ATFtl;dru look retarded and ur shits all fucked upget it together man
>>110515001You're a coward and a pinko faggot, and honestly, that's all I need to hear.
>>110515534>tl;drSummed it up there shandy sniffer, we've done you.
No problem; you’re the problem.
>>110515876I'm a libertarian retard. I'm against all forms of authoritarianism. Yeah socially, I lean moderately liberal, but that's because it's retarded to hate people for things they have no control over, like race or sexual orientation. Go back to /pol/ faggot.
>>110515929lol yea i figured youd need the spark notes version
>>110516046Woah, this is heckin' epic.
>>110516206>spark notesThat a list of the times you've been sparked out by wogs?
>>110516212lol go shoot up a tops ya spedeor wait.... thats too cliche i guess
>>110514501I've heard Skrewdriver's music. They suck. White Power, Boots and Braces, Anti Social all the other crap, it blows
If a punk LARP themed cultural battleground exists, it's going to be on /mu/
>>110515534>guy telling you to go bomb federal buildings is NOT your friend, he works for the FBI/ATFThis is some of the most based schizo-posting I've seen in weeks.
>>110516254i do what i can
>>110516046>I'm a libertarian retardAt least you don't hide it.
>>110516243why would I do that? I don't work in Langley, Virginia
>>110516243Only thing I'm shooting up is your mum you smelly scrote? Btw your dad owes me a tenner.
>>110514677like who? I would like to see some examples.anyway here's a huge plagiarist who I guess got away with it at the time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux5ACEYD5gAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcPp22N2cD8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYy2hR19Pgkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXkSG71ie74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxxg2BFYqu4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0dEdK8Ehk
>>110516504neither did ol jimboboii apparentlyjust ODed on redpills and got goaded into irl schizopostingmany such casesadvice stands thodont listen to that guy, hes not your friend, im tellin ya
punk is about telling the man to shove it up his ass. some guy telling you what to do or that you need to join his club to save civilization from xyz boogeyman spook is not your friend, he is trying to use you as a puppet and manipulate you on his quest for power/social climbing/other nefarious methods. they are the modern day missionaries and preachers. be a free thinker and shove all dogmas, secular and religious, state authoritarian policy, back in their face if they are trying to use force on you or are really pressuring you into believing their idea. theyre recruiting you for their cult, especially if they claim their ideology has all the answers or is the solution to fix everything wrong with the world
>>110516599Rancid rips off Hail The New Dawn wholesale.
>>110512984liberals like you sound like gas huffers.
>>110517151Are you a tankie or a fascist, cuz I honestly cannot tell with this stupid website anymore?>>110516777Based Stirnerposter
>>110517564>Are you a tankie or a fascist, cuz I honestly cannot tell with this stupid website anymore?arr rook samebut if its the guy posting RAC shit id assume the latterthat RAC shit always cracks me up tho desuits like if pantera started covering random NYC HC bands poorly
>>110517713Who hurt you?
>>110517713>t. pronouns: them/they
>>110507617i like them anon
>>110518176>Who hurt you?kek, not him, but what a faggot thing to say. you come up with that yourself there?
>>110513910anarcho-anything is the textbook definition of aimless virtue signaling. literally promoting ideologies that cannot function in the real world.
>>110518630sickthat whole indiana scene is fucking greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbOe7ua6IUYhavent been there since before memefluthere still cool house shows goin on out there?
>>110518870At least Crass actually lived in a commune. Of course their ideology cannot be universally implemented, but I think Penny Rimbaud is smart enough to recognize that and at least he is constructing such at a significantly smaller scale. That's more commendable that what any of my "anarchist" friends are doing, which is basically what you described. >>110517713Why can't /pol/lacks just stay on their containment board? They're infesting this whole site and I hate it. Also, agreed on the RAC shit lmao.
>>110519721>their ideologyWhich is?
>>110520110I think the title of this documentary sums it up perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIa_jVDRYg4Tl;DW: Basically they advocate for individualism, self-sufficiency, pacifism (Fight War, Not Wars) etc. Steve Ignorant doesn't give a fuck anymore and lives like a normal person with eccentric interests in puppets. Penny is still living true to the ethos
>>110519721>Why can't /pol/lacks just stay on their containment board?Is this your safe space, where politics is permitted only if they're your politics?
>>110517564I'm the anon who called you a gas huffer. I'm neither to be honest. It's just embarrassing to read someone expressing its political stance in a way that's no differently retarded from the others.Just enjoy music, the politics don't really matter if its good.
>>110520527How is my stance retarded? My point was to point out retarded reasoning in other political stances. Like, the point I was making is a massive problem in the reasoning of progressive circles. Motte and Bailey is a logical fallacy specifically utilized by left-wingers. Maybe because you were annoyed that I was getting too emotionally involved into my own point, and in that case, I sympathize with you. I'm similar in the sense that I find anyone else's political opinion other than my own annoying, so I think we're on the same boat here. >>110520518Not necessarily. I just remember there being significantly far fewer neo-Nazis on /mu/. Fascism is an objectively abhorrent ideology and the proponents of it are retards. I used to live in a part of California that had a massive amount of skinheads. I used to be like you and defend the rights of Nazis, but I lost good friends doing that crap. You can be free to express your opinions, but don't let them go unchecked or escape my vitriol.
>>110520762the neo nazi scum is just a wider symptom of a larger issue with this website. /pol/ being the new /b/ (the most popular board and place where all the new users flock to) and spamming their culture war word tracts everywhere. they have stock copypastas for all sorts of racial, sexual, social issues that they spam incessantly for the past 5 years across boards, and the young impressionable kids trying to be edgy contrarians + newfags dont know any better and eat it up, almost like they have propaganda bots or something going that respond to a trigger phase.
>>110520762You're investing too much time on politics anon. And for starters, this is a music board.You're either going crazy, or you're making bad bait. Relax.
>>110520762You write like a queer. Did you move to Castro?>or escape my vitriol.What's your Twitter, faggot?
>>110520909Y'know what. I like you. And you're right. Honestly, I'm under a lot of stress right now, and when I am, I get extremely argumentative. Thanks for the mental health checkup, fellow anon. Much appreciated.>>110520819I partially blame this due to moot selling the site. /pol/ was much more of a containment board back in the day, and the lack of moderation makes it evident that this is case. At least I can tolerate /b/ because they're being IRONICALLY racist, and they're so degenerate and ironically pro-LGBT (especially the T part I've noticed, even more so than the /lgbt/ board) even though everyone throws around the word "faggot" like acid rain. >>110521010oh shut up
dont do politics kids
>>110507489gen x were a funny bunch
OP, the answer to your question is very easy to find. Just check Wikipedia and you'll read it.
>>110507359>Leftist drivel>Signs to Sony Entertainment.Yeah, talk about turning rebellion into money....
>>110524033>absolutely meaningless word whoa u got me, come up with that one yourself?
>>110524448Wow this is the most pathetic attempt I’ve ever seen on this entire website, congratulations kek. Very impressive failure.
>>110518756Homophobic scum, get out of Punk NOW!
>>110507359Most musicians are left wing by default. If they have any success, they ditch the left wing politics, because you know taxes and such, and keep those grubby kids off my mansion lawn. Then they just pay lip service to left wing shit, but stopped living it decades ago.
>>110521404You need to stay in your containment board /lgbt/
>>110525423>You're just a pile of shit, you're coming to this>You poor little faggot, you're sealed with a kiss
>>110512502>Punk has always been establishmentok have fun with that