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Baroque Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Rv9ppP6A8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZJ__GIbms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVGYXFGaLqk

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:

https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

Previous Thread: >>106462853
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Let's kick off this thread with a positive vibe!
https://youtu.be/ezthDp7WjIg
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Baroque music is so dated. I only listen to older music, like early renaissance, because since it's older and more primitive it's clearly not as dated as the music that followed it. This makes sense, and I'm not a posturing dilettante.
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>>106484653
I've never heard anyone say this
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Let's discuss real classical music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOmHpI0MMKE
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>>106484678
cringe
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>>106484661
of course you haven't, you dated, immature brainlet. I, however, have outgrown baroque and can only listen to earlier stuff that doesn't sound as dated as it
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>>106484441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAZ8PA5_gVA&t=203s

Is it just normal for pianist to just ruin their own recordings now? Tell me I'm not the only one who hears this shit.
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>>106484513
*yawn* classical, huh? Have you tried something less dated, like des Prez or Palestrina? Maybe you just need to grow up for the coin to flip, you know?
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Neobaroque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUwFoghfWnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA4j3VhGY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cb5tIip04
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>>106484791
>Falla's Concerto for Harpsichord
dang, that's great, never knew he wrote something like this
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I have a serious question about what I should listen to next but after the fiasco of the past three threads I'm afraid I will only get replies like "tranny" and "Petzold" and "just listen to Wagner"
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>>106485006
There are still posters willing to respond to questions in earnest in my experience, but yeah, you might have to ignore or hide a few posts.
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there's something about baroque music that isn't superficial and posh like classical music. classical music feels so dated and anachronistic to be listening to it in 2021? do you get what I mean?
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>>106485019
>do you get what I mean?
No, because I was born with a functioning brain.
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>>106484513
that actor looked so breedable in amadeus
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>>106485018
I'm going through this vast music listening experience backwards, time-wise. Not to say I don't listen to "newer" composers now and again (I've been listening to a lot of turn-of-the-century french, russian and spanish pianists lately for example), but I like to work my way towards the past. Having listened to composers like Schubert, Mendelssohn, Von Weber and Spohr, where should I go next? Reicha? Dive straight into Beethoven's entire oeuvre? What's the immediately next (or previous, if you will) composer I should listen to so as to continue this unbroken chain?
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>>106485080
Wagner
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>>106485080
John Field, maybe? Famously invented the Nocturne that Chopin improved upon and later Fauré perfected
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>>106485080
Listen to Mozart already.
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>>106485080
Johann Nepomuk Hummel
>His music reflects the transition from the Classical to the Romantic musical era. He was a pupil of Mozart, Salieri and Haydn. He was also friends with Beethoven and Schubert.
sounds exactly what you're looking for in terms of continuity. But, Reicha's also a very goot pick though...
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>>106485080
Assuming that Schumann and Chopin are among the composers you’ve covered among those other early Romantics, then Beethoven does sound like the next step in terms of the most central figure to that transition from Classical. I would say try Rossini as a complement as well since he and Beethoven were sometimes contrasted in their time as representative of the differing directions that music was taking.
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>>106485143
there's a whole lot of important composers between him and Von Weber, though, which is what I'm asking for
>>106485115
>>106485151
hmmmmmmmmmmm intredastin
>>106485211
>Assuming that Schumann and Chopin are among the composers you’ve covered
They are!
>try Rossini as a complement as well since he and Beethoven were sometimes contrasted in their time
What, like a proto Wagner vs Brahms? Alright, I'll eventually listen to both, but for now I'm more interesting in someone whose oeuvre is mostly instrumental. Beethoven, though, even if I have already listened to the more notable works before I decided I'd do the whole degressive journey here still feels like too much. Schubert was pretty intimidating in terms of sheer hours of music, and I understand Beethoven was even more prolific. But if that's a better stop than the three already mentioned I guess I'll buckle up and dedicate a few months of my life solely to that. Still, I'll wait and see what recommendations others come up with.
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>1870
>goes to local hashish parlor
>takes huge hit from his hookah pipe
>"dude trolls lmao"
>*Writes greatest orchestral piece of the 19th century*
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>>106485257
he was a good unitarian christian boy and all he wrote is pure and clean
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>>106485277
Exodus 30:23
>Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus [Cannabis] two hundred and fifty shekels
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>>106485310
>Sweet calamus - The fragrant cane (or rush) was probably what is now known in India as the Lemon Grass.
>The calamus in Exodus 30 is a reed. The Hebrew root of the word myrrh means flowing, and the root for calamus means standing up. Calamus grows in a marsh or muddy place. But even though it grows in a marsh, it is able to shoot up into the air. According to the sequence of the spices, this calamus signifies the rising up of the Lord Jesus from the place of death. The Lord was put into a marsh, into a death situation, but in resurrection He rose up and stood up. Calamus, therefore, signifies the precious resurrection of Christ.
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>>106485358
That's a common mistranslation, because the reed it refers to is sweet flag, which is also psychoactive
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>>106485249
>What, like a proto Wagner vs Brahms?
Probably nowhere near as vicious, but a little like that. Taruskin devotes a chapter to it in his History of Western Music:

>The man who did inherit the Mozartean operatic legacy (albeit not “from the hands of Haydn”) was cast immediately—and in terms that resonated far beyond the confines of the opera house—as Beethoven's opponent, his rival, or (to use the language of German philosophy), his dialectical antithesis. In Gioacchino Rossini, the hardy pre-romantic temper survived into the romantic age, and thrived to the point where even Raphael Georg Kiesewetter (1773–1850), an Austrian nobleman who in 1834 published the first scholarly history of music in German (thus becoming the first “musicologist” in the present day sense of the term), found he had to title his concluding chapter not “The Age of Beethoven,” as national pride might have prompted him to do, but “The Age of Beethoven and Rossini.” This is well worth pointing out because a century and a half later, in 1982, the eighth volume of the authoritative and impeccably scholarly New Oxford History of Music was issued, its title page emblazoned “The Age of Beethoven, 1790–1830.” The only apology came in the form of an editorial introduction, which began, “The title of no other volume of the New Oxford History of Music includes the name of a composer. But no other period of musical history is so completely dominated by one composer.” Nobody during the period in question would have agreed with that statement. The word “history” in the second sentence should obviously have been replaced by “modern historiography.” A historiography of early nineteenth-century music that allows itself to be completely dominated by Beethoven is one that has deliberately read his antithesis out of the canon.
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>>106485387
just because it's called acorus calamus doesn't mean it's the one alluded to in the bible
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>>106485392
Wow, that's a lot of revisionism, but it's fine, I guess. Antiquity is not always the best authority anyway.

So, so far I'm torn between Reicha and Hummel. What can you folks tell me about each so as to convince me to choose one? Or are any other composers to consider before them?
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>>106485418
You'll probably find an easier time finding recordings of Hummel than Reicha desu. Also listen to Clementi after both of them. This cute little sonata later influenced Mozart in his overture to The Magic Flute.
https://youtu.be/oGxP-AtKRB8
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>>106485585
>Clementi
he should come after Mozart then. Hoo boy, gonna be a few years til then. I'm sad to hear Reicha would be hard to find, since he seemed like a very forward looking composers notably ahead of his time. Hummel wins so far, but I'll let the question rest so that other people can have a say, if they're so inclined
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BAKH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RisHO8FW90g
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18th International Fryderyk Chopin Piano Competition LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqKVPF0zwA
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>>106484653
That's crazy bro but who asked
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>>106484441
I can't stand the sound of the harpsichord, it just sounds really cheesy to me.
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>>106486170
who will win?!
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>>106486381
me.
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>>106486345
I can't stand the harpischord nor the piano. I like the fortepiano.
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>>106485151
Louis Ferdinand von Preussen and Joseph Wolfl are also great composers of the transition from classical to romanticism
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i believe in tchaikovsky supremacy.
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scriabin believes in scriabin supremacy.
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>>106486753
we get it, you’re gay
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>>106486807
And???
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>>106486878
enjoy your AIDS
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Are there any decent 18th or 19th century composers who weren't taught by other top composers/educators of their time?
Not necessarily self-taught, but taught by the kind of person who doesn't have a wikipedia page.
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>>106486885
haha verry funny
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>>106486955
satie but hes not decent

so no.
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>>106484441
does anyone know the song that bands sometimes play at american football games? i liked it when i was in high school.
>da da da daaaa da da da, da da da daaa da da da
it's like that
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>>106486807
the slavonic march is one of the best marches
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>>106487197
Land of a Thousand Dances
Also not classical
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>>106487225
no, it's played with wind instruments
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>>106487232
Beats me then, your da da daas are too vague I'm afraid
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>>106487297
dada da daaaa
da da da
dada da daaaa da dada da da
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>>106486977
thanks
>>106487215
yeah if you’re gay maybe
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>>106487308
Oh shit I know what you're talking about I think. After the first bar the people sitting in the bleachers yell "Hey!" Right? Shit I wish I knew the name of that one
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>>106487325
>"Hey!"
ours didn't, but our crowd never said anything, so maybe other crowds did
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what are the properties of jewish music?
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Why is it that Chopin's etudes are so easy to play but Bach's music is so hard aaaaahhhhh
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>>106488247
*blocks your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XCj-j7TBTY
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>>106486170
stop shilling that
rigged shit
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>>106484653
>>106484661
I kind of get it. While baroque music is undeniably more advanced harmonically, etc, early renaissance polyphony has a kind of ancient timeless quality. Bach is still peak music though
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>>106487308
Can you record a vocaroo?
>>106487325
This would be Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part 2" but I think anon might be talking about something else
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Jessus Crist this shit is so fucking slow, the eroica takes 57 minutes.
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Price

https://youtu.be/A50gEwDu6bU
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No, seriously guys, is it only me? I compared it with Leibowitz's performance
https://voca.ro/1fnbfYaVDNey
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>>106489207
>>106489374
Ya that's pretty slow. Giulini always seems to take things slowly, at least what I've heard from him always has.
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>>106489374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAxtrBUtFBE
jesus even kna isn't that slow
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>>106488247
Because you don’t have any understanding of counterpoint or polyphony
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>>106489462
wtf is this shit, it has more white noise than music lmao
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Who's /bruckner/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfB27tyWr7I

bruckner symphonies ranked:
5>7>9>4>6>8>3>1>2>0>00
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>>106489753
8>9>6>3>7>5>1>2>4>0>00
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>>106489753
>>106489825
actually I should have put the 6th before the 4th, 4th has a good first movement but the 6th has a great 1st, 3rd, and 4th movement although the coda is lackluster imo
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OH NO NO NO NO
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>>106489927
F
did the jury pick the pieces?
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>>106489927
He actually played that shitty fugue?. RIP if yes
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>>106489855
I'm actually considering putting the 0 before the 4th
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>>106489927
A bit rude to play Chopin's posthumous works ain't it?
I'm pretty sure he asked for them to be burned.
I understand going against his wishes for historic preservation, but to actually perform them is a bit much.
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>>106489825
What good performances are there of 0 and 00? Are they even really worth listening to? I assume they aren't.
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>>106490169
What a faggy take.
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>>106490169
Performing the shit ones is a bit too much. Chopin's fugue is laughably bad.
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>>106490185
>What good performances are there of 0 and 00?
Studiensymphonie: Georg Tintner, Royal Scottish National Orchestra
Die Nullte: Georg Tintner, National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland
>Are they even really worth listening to?
yes
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>>106490228
>>106490007
What's bad about it? I like it
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>>106490275
It's just a parody of a fugue by how badly it is
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>>106490315
Ok but what's bad about it
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>>106490328
the way it's written
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>>106490328
It's a two-voice fugue so it is much less interesting than three or four voice fugues, which usually are the norm when writting a fugue. Now the rest is rather subjective but to me it is unimaginative and poorly written. It reads and sounds like a student attempt of a fugue, and not a good one.
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>>106490409
it sounds like the shit people post here asking us to rate it
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post the /classical/ chopin fugue meme
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https://youtu.be/-16xPNpnM1o?t=11
it's a good fugue
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>tfw /classical/ was a shittier as it is now back five years ago
https://4chanarchives.com/board/mu/thread/63359179
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>>106490605
not as much
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>>106490563
>fzsss shhh crakc pop
it sure is
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>>106489927
>no one picking any preludes
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>>106491031
i think the 24 preludes were meant to be played all together or something like that
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>>106491053
I just now saw that the last guy tonight was gonna play all 24 of them lol, so I guess I'll listen to that
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>>106489927
just waching the replay, what did he mean by this ?
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>>106491261
he means that the World Trade Center can't write a fugue for shit
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I was searching the other day for a porn movie related to classical music and, to my suprise, there is none. I expected something at least about Mozart or Beethoven, but there is nothing. The closest thing are some old italian movies ambiented in the victorian era.
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>>106491753
degenerates out
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>>106491753
Boy do I have a composer for you
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I can't find a download for Turina's Margot and Jardín Del Oriente and it's got me really fucking moody I gotta say
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>>106491873
go to spain
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Outside of the last three, I haven't ventured much into the Schubert piano sonatas. What are some of your favorites /classical/?
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>>106492414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGg5dVoNB6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzUELBVgVD4
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>>106489753
I’ve been on a Bruckner kick lately, bought the scores of 4 5 6 7 8 and have been reading them to study form, counterpoint and motivic development. Can some Brucknerfags here recommend me good performances of all those symphonies?
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>>106492493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIrWYqQ5bPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTP0p5giNdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_uiiGRBVVg
ahhh... i'm hissing
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what kind of piano music is much harder to play than it sounds?
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>>106492593
yeah fuck this, from now on im just going to read old talkclassical threads for recommendations
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Kuhlau is such an underrated composer
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https://youtu.be/cdYTHXz2ibg
Imagine waking everyday to this organ chord, I bet your life would improve considerably
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>>106492606
Satie
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>>106492614
>https://www.talkclassical.com/18147-bruckner-addicts-only-bruckner-16.html
lmao
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Hissbros, what was the first good recording of Chopin?
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>>106492493
4: Karajan [EMI]
5: Dohnanyi [Decca]
6: Sawallisch [Orfeo]
7: Bohm [DG]
8: Boulez [DG] (Yes, for real)
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>>106492650
don't mind if i ignore that page and read the other 22 pages with normal non-ancient buttfuck literally who recommendations
>>106492668
i heard sawallisch's bruckner 5 on hurwitz's recommendation and it was resoundingly meh compared to jochum's (which he shat on earlier in the video), is his 6 any good?
also maybe it's just me but i've kinda avoided dohnanyi ever since i heard his painfully dull bartok MSPC, what a disappointing recording.
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>>106492668
>Karajan
Opinion automatically discarded
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>>106492651
Pachmann comes to mind also Raoul Pugno
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Hypothetically, would a castrato sound any different from a transfemale singer who took HRT before puberty?
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>>106492729
HIP was a mistake
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>>106492729
One day I will track and hunt you down if you keep being this obnoxious.
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>>106492706
>is his 6 any good?

I honestly wouldn't recommend it if I didn't think it was good. I haven't heard his fifth and also don't generally consider Sawallisch a great conducter for what it's worth. But that sixth? Yes!

Dohnanyi is hit and miss but I really like his Bruckner (incomplete) cycle. Only no. 7 is a dud imo.
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>>106492493
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>>106492706
>hurwitz
Pleb.
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>>106492850
at this point i only really watch hurwitz to know what recordings exist, his top recommendations have done me dirty so many times i don't take them seriously anymore
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>>106492861
>have done me dirty so many times
The fuck does this mean?
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>>106492888
Bareback
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>>106492888
as in they fucking suck and i waste my time downloading them from private trackers and listening to them only to be disappointed
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>>106492493
>>106492614
calm down, serious answer coming through
4: Eliahu Inbal, Radio-Sinfonie-Orchester Frankfurt (1982[84?])
5, 6, 7: Gennadi Rozhdestvensky, USSR Ministry Of Culture State Symphony Orchestra (85-88?)
8: Georg Tintner, Ireland National Symphony Orchestra (1996)
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>>106492633
that's possibly the worst, blandest, most soulless recording of his organ words I've ever heard. Try pic related for a proper interpretation.
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>>106492942
Post link fag
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>>106492958
download soulseek, shit eater
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZxQ87xX88A
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>>106492970
Yeah, not going to your tranny site, post link or you actually didn't prove anything and my pick recording remains supreme
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>>106493006
>tranny site
what
>you actually didn't prove anything and my pick recording remains supreme
you know what, you deserve mediocrity. Have fun with your garbage recording.
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>>106492781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjvfqnD0ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLRUPTX3am0
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>>106493024
Cope
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>>106493026
"she" has a penis doesn't it
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>>106493040
>no tits
>has to suck his stomach in and lean back to have an illusion of a waist
>incredibly skinny
take a wild guess
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>>106493026
Shame he was the only castrati to make it on record because he sucks desu.
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>>106493006
>slsk
>"site"
lol fucking retard
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>>106493063
She still mogs your gf (if you even have on lol)
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>>106493040
>>106493063
quick google search says filipino ladyboy, 18 years old, 5'4''
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>>106493122
YWNBAW
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>>106493026
>Allegedly
Americans are gay btw, they can't stop thinking in dicks
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>>106493109
t.ranny
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>>106493133
YWNHS
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>>106493133
that's not how you use that acronym, but thanks for trying hard anyway
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great, thread ruined
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>>106493155
>>106493157
You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.

Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>106493159
Blame wagner tranny poster deviating every thread
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>Why yes, I do indeed play the violin; how could you tell?
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>>106492958
>>106493006
>>106493038
>>106493142
>SPOONFEED ME!
>ok get this p2p it has everything you need
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT THAT!!!!!!!
>fine
>T-TRANNY ;_;

kill yourself today, nigger
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Remember, only old recording bros know what they're talking about. Everyone else obsesses over trannies and represses homosexual urges.
https://youtu.be/4Zw_3aGh9a8
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>>106493184
because you're a soulless chink
>>106493199
grainy is tranny
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>>106493222
Awful trips, kys
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Transphobes and Brahmsians OUT
This general is Wagnerian and PROUD!
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>>106493175
>someone wrote this in earnest before it became a copypasta
rent free
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>>106492606
Bach's prelude and fugues
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>>106493301
join the 40% already you schizo freak
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>>106493301
what's your favorite recording of Tristan & Isolde, sister?
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any suggestions of where to start for getting into classical music? currently only know the famous composers that everyone has heard of, and dont really know how the Ops and numbers and stuff work for the names
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>>106493333
Why, Wilhelm Furtwangler's of course!
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>>106493333
Solti
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>>106493199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL97cMr2EI4
does this board has mods or something? it's tiresome
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>>106485080
How far back do you plan to go?
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>>106493316
seethe
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>>106493346
Watch the anime Nodame Cantabile.
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>>106493346
Beethoven: Symphony No.5, moonlight sonata
Mozart: Symphony No.40, Requiem
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>>106493360
>Schumann
Great UwU
>Brahms
Get OUT evil Brahmsian
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>>106493346
You'll get to know opus and numbers once you get familiar with the pieces, to get into classical the best way is to tell us what piece you like already and we can tell you what other pieces or composer you'd be more likely to enjoy
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>>106493376
as far as I can. I reckon Palestrina? I've already listened to all I could find by Hildegaard Von Bingen so I suppose that's the limit. Anything before that requires specialized ensembles with restored instruments and a whole lot of speculation. How far do you reckon I can go?
>>106493346
I'd say pick a composer you're at least somewhat familiar with, go to the wiki article on their compositions, listen to as much as you can bare and then come back to us with what you particularly liked and disliked from it. That way, also, you'll begin to become familiar with things like op numbers and also with the genres/forms within the music itself and their characteristics
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Sweelinck
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwuFNCxDl_I
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>>106493360
Staff have never cared about this board.
https://youtu.be/J18wFaVjbPw
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>>106493431
>Palestrina
Sorry, I was either thinking about Du Fay or Des Prez
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>>106493431
Perotin/Leonin/Notre Dame polyphony is probably as far as you can go (besides von Bingen but you already listened to her)
If you want to be totally competitionist you can do Gregorian chant too.
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>>106493431
>as far as I can. I reckon Palestrina

You should at least listen to Machaut (14th. c) and Dufay (15th. c). Forget about Hildegard. Leonin and Perotin are mere curiosities.
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>>106493497
>Perotin
>Mere curiosity
KYS.
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>>106493484
>you can do Gregorian chant too.
I've listened to about six hours of it by the people at Santo Domingo; I reckon that's enough
Pérotin and Léonin seem like a good place to stop, then, but are recordings of their works readily available? More to the point, did they bother writing down and organising their oeuvre?
>>106493497
>Forget about Hildegard
Well, I fucking loved her stuff personally
>mere curiosities
How so?
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>>106493556
>How so?

Little artistic worth.
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>>106493577
KYS.
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Ah, so it's happened again. Looks like it's time for the smart and civilised European hours posters to depart from /classical/ with dignity, as the tranny-obsessed shitposters have returned to reply to every post with 'cope' 'seethe' 'kys' and other uncouth buzzwords. Then they're reply to themselves until the sun rises on the old continent once more.
Good night.
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>>106493585
You first.
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>>106493497
>origin of polyphonic Western art music
>mere curiosities
Actually retarded.
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>>106493577
Why? Was what they did not historically important/influential? Were there other composers doing the same/better stuff at the time? If it's relevant to understanding and appreciating the development of western academic music I'm listening to it, curiosity or not
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Could you tell the difference between a cylindrical record and a disc record in a blind listening test?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_g4cAXkz80
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>>106493657
why would I bother when both sound like shit
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>>106493657
blind listening is for söyence faggots
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>>106493595
you're leaving just as we're discussing 13th-15th century composers?
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>>106492414
D537, 568, 575, 664, 784, 840, 845, 850 and 894 are the great ones (beside the last three).
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>Renaissance anon has probably stopped posting here for a long time
>no one will be here to post twinkcore vocal music recordings
Tragic.
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>>106492606
Mozart's and Haydn's sonatas
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>>106492606
Ravel
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>>106492606
Albéniz
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>>106493431
>as far as I can.
good luck and godspeed
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>>106493897
Oh shit.
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>>106493897
post 1425~
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>>106493897
where's Du Fay??
>>106493959
what, so none of them in that chart
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>>106493897
>>106493959
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>>106493959
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>>106493897
Actually never heard of any of the people before von Binden lmao. Any of the particularly notable?
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>>106493814
yes
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>>106494009
no idea, I just looked up early composers and was as surprised as you. Though I have heard of Notker the Stammerer and Alfonso X before
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>>106486345
>>106486392
grow up
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>>106493419
>>106493431
particularly interested in piano pieces rather than orchestral
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>>106494068
Well then I guess just limit yourself to Chopin, Valentin Alkan, Liszt, Mendelssohn, Thalberg, Czerny and Beethoven
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>>106494111
thanks, will definitely check all out. I'll branch out to the other stuff afterwards
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>>106494068
Why not both
https://youtu.be/NMa_S5ZPxa4
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>>106494148
>1959
How does it sounds this good?
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>>106494221
negro magick
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Chopin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ReWp5dAXnA
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Anyone before Josquin is not worth remembering.
>Lol, guess which note I want you to play
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>>106494262
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Any other fugues like RV 565? I find it more interesting than keyboard fugues
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>>106494297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3a77JpE8HU
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>>106491831
he's unironically a genius
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>>106494376
decent but not really the sound I was looking for
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Is this as hard as it looks?

https://youtu.be/sEQf5lcnj_o?t=191
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>>106494503
>Is this as hard as it looks?
>
>https://youtu.be/sEQf5lcnj_o?t=191
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>>106494517
Obsessed
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>>106494517
based tranime destroyer
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Lully
https://youtu.be/MGKeI8hrFEI
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>>106494137
Debussy and Ravel are worth checking out as well
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>>106488790
sure
https://voca.ro/174GSddCeVBX
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>>106494262
>I don't like being challenged
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>>106496328
what the ever loving fuck
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>>106496328
this nigga fr?
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>>106496502
should i record it again?
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>>106496577
No. No, no no.
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Mennin
https://youtu.be/V4ffrqlNhDk
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>>106496629
i see that you understand the rhythm of the song. i have done my part
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>>106496577
Yes. Yes, yes yes.
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>>106496650
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>>106496657
https://voca.ro/16I01feri44v
it gets lower in tone for the second part
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>>106496670
I bet you didn't even listened to the first five seconds.
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>>106496678
this nigga fr?
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>>106496823
oh how I wish you were right
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>>106496867
Tell tell me what's bad about it
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>>106496867
Tell tell tell me what’s bad about it
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>>106496914
>>106496922
the music
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>>106496867
Tell tell tell tell me what’s bad about it
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>>106496867
Tell tell tell tell tell me what's bad about it
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90% of the posts in this shit general consist of one or two sentences. Absolutely zero music discussion going on. Most of the arguments that take place here can be reduced to "Composer A > Composer B." Actually, no, they don't even have to be reduced -- they're literally just that. Worst place on the internet to talk about classical music. How do you guys manage being so terrible at this?
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>>106497064
>>>/blogpost/
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>>106497064
please tell me the name of the song in the vocaroo
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>>106496867
Tell tell tell tell tell tell me what’s bad about it
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>>106497064
rampant shitposting destroyed /classical/
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>>106497098
rampant shitposting is* /classical/
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>>106497088
What do you get out of spamming this general with your low-effort 'kys', 'seethe', 'tranny' posts? What a pathetic life you must have. You call this humor? Well, have at it. Goodnight.
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>>106497126
cope
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>>106497064
>>106497126
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Feeduck and Seeduck."
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>>106497125
it wasn't before coronavirus
atleats not that much
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>>106497126
See you in an hour you needy faggot
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>>106497174
the language was different, for sure, but the quality has been the same since at least 2013
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>>106497348
No, it's definitely got worse.
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>>106496914
>>106496922
>>106497008
>>106497091
this reads like a (((NYC))) school composition


let's post good modern fugues, in honour of the brainlet who was whining about them in the previous thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dcdQHDsMNQ
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>>106497413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyxtwDhbrUo
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>>106497393
stop it then
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>>106497413
What is so bad about the NYC school composition? He wasn't jewish btw, he was of italian ancestry
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>>106497064
faggot
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>>106497413
this is good outside of the first 30 seconds
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What was the hottest opera singer ever?
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>>106497638
who*
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>>106497638
>>106497661
sex
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>>106497413
>Ctrl-f fugue
>18 results
>Ctrl-f symphony
>16 results
>Ctrl-f sonata
>9 results
>Ctrl-f concerto
>6 results
why are you so obsessed with this highly specific composition style? even Bach wrote 80% non-fugal compositions
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>What is so bad about the NYC school composition? He wasn't jewish btw, he was of italian ancestry
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>>What is so bad about the NYC school composition? He wasn't jewish btw, he was of italian ancestry
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>>106497625
>>106497700
>reeeeeeeeeeee
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https://open.spotify.com/track/50pCVVT9LXBjD37uq8uEDw?si=92de3546ba1d49d6
this one is good
>>106497785
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>>106497785
t. ranny
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>>106497163
lol
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>>106497795
lol
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>>106497739
lol
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>>106497739
what does this mean
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this board is lower quality than /qa/
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>>106497912
that's impossible
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>>106497912
tranny
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>this is good outside of the first 30 seconds
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>>106497912
ok maybe i was wrong: >>106498034
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>>106498049
you're basically always wrong
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>>106497739
based soijaks sending noses to the oven
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>>106497912
/mu/ may be the worst board, but at least our general isn't as bad as guitar general.
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>>106498184
or /metal/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKs1WpMJ0X8
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Satie > Bach
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>>106498373
the nocturnes suck
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>>106498373
well that’s one way to announce your homosexuality
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Shostakovich > Mozart
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Tfw when you go from rap to jazz and finally arrive home at classical:). Ravel and samule barber all day
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>>106498432
Are you black?
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>>106493082
>Although known as ''The Angel of Rome,'' Moreschi was probably not a great singer to begin with. He certainly was not a tasteful musician; his singing is afflicted with a constant sobbing quality that he thought was expressive. The production generally is unsteady, sometimes painfully so.
Explains a lot
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>>106498432
lol you're still not "home", nigga
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>>106498432
well that’s one way to announce your homosexuality
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>>106498477
whatever, we wouldn't have this gem without him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfiapMYwHW4
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what is the most /classical/ video game OST?
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>>106498598
Transylvania: Castle Of Night
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>>106498598
Metroid: Ocarina Of The Time
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Has anyone here read Reicha's treatise "Cours de composition musicale" / "Course of Musical Composition" ?
There's a free english translation on google books.
I couldn't find his other writings, but I read somewhere that his "Traité de mélodie" was well respected at the time.
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>>106498677
I've been meaning to, but I hate reading on the internet. I don't suppose physical copies are readily available.
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>>106498709
The one on google books can be downloaded as a PDF so you can open it in your own viewer (I use sumatraPDF, which does the job well enough)
It's an option in the gear wheel menu.
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>>106498873
I did say "internet", didn't I? Sorry, I meant on the computer
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>>106498902
Yeah it's not great. I've been thinking about getting something like a 10 inch e-reader, which would be good for stuff like this, but probably still too small for scores.
10 inch readers are more than $400 though, and a 13 inch (letter size) reader that would be okay for scores is more than $800.
I have a 6-inch e-reader, but it's too small for most PDFs, which is what most of this type of material is in.
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>>106498598
cod 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k6Z19ZjV2I
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New
>>106499461
>>106499461
>>106499461
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>>106486170
How do people remain composed like that while playing? Even recording myself playing alone gets me real nervous about making a mistake
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>>106499829
practice
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>>106485392
Definitely placing way too much importance on Rossini. He was an important composer no doubt, but not everything needs a counter proposition, given the similarity between Weber and Beethoven, and Weber being what Wagner would call a dramatic composer in both programmatic and absolute music in utter contrast to Beethoven, he would offer a much better comparison.
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>>106493181
Who the fuck mentioned Wagner? It's you anti-Wagnerians that have to talk about trannies all the time.



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