What ruined country music? Excessive need to appeal to blue collar wagies? Emphasizing religion to the point where it blends with gospel? Some third thing?
>>105962218yea it fucking sucks
funny how you mentioned two things that are in the core of old country music
>>105962218The Nashville sound further refining itself to the point where it is almost indistinguishable from pop music.
>>105962284>nothin' about trains>nothin' about trucks>nothin' about mama>nothin' about prison>nothin' about gettin' drunkSounds like faggot talk to me.
>>105962279On the Road Again is one of the most famous country songs out there and mentions neither.
>>105962314His early period is hilarious.
>write a song about doing immoral things on a Saturday night>while begging for forgiveness Sunday morning>then doing the same stuff the following Saturday>and again begging for forgiveness on Sunday>ad infinitumNo wonder conservatives have mental problems when they listen to music like this.
>>105962380Life is more complex than Twitter hashtags, anon.
>>105962518>bringing up Twitter completely unpromptedtake meds
>>105962218If you have a deep rooted hatred for blue collar workers, Country probably isn't for you.
>>105962218Was never anything good to ruin in the first place
>>105962572I don't hate blue collar workers. Just wish the focus of the majority of these songs wasn't the same thing. It's expected with pop music but country can mix in blues and folk to tell interesting stories.
>>105962667AND THE STATUE OF LIBERTY STARTED SHAKIN' HER FIST
>>105962641I like the Devil Went Down to Georgia.
>>105962305Based and also this unironically. Country music is just pop music with cowboy boots on now.
>>105962218Country music used to be punk music for men who had jobs. Now it’s pop music for girls who ride horses.
>>105962218it's all written in new york city nowadays, what the fuck do you expect
>>105962830>new york cityYou mean Nashville, the NYC of the south?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUQg0bqhVw
>>105962667You do realize 20th century country fans would spit on you and call you a nigger for being black, right
>>105962969That's all country music fans. They have a couple of "the good ones" to make them feel better about themselves but they still cross to the other side of the street when they see anyone a couple shades darker walking towards them on the sidewalk.
Have you heard that song, “Fancy Like” that’s a top 10 hit on the Hot 100 right now? It’s poe’s law: the country song. https://youtu.be/G_zuB-ogIBw
>>105963152>fancy like Applebee'sDo you think Walker had to ask his failed high school friends what a fancy meal would be for them?
>>105963085oh nooo not the heckin blackerinos :,(
>>105963310I know, I'm scared of them too.
>>105963310With Lil Nas, it's only a matter of time before more blacks get involved in country music. The idea of a redneck having his favorite radio station become a russian roulette of "fuggin nigger music" is funny to me.
>>105962218>Excessive need to appeal to blue collar wagies? No. Country was always like that>Emphasizing religion to the point where it blends with gospel? No, that’s the best part of country>Some third thing?It’s the attempt at modernizing that ruined it. Country is a traditional kind of music, and making it with electronic drumbeats and auto tune just creates a soulless husk that doesn’t make you feel anything. You hear old country with banjos and jug players and that untrained natural harmonization, that shit is real.Modern country is pop music with a few vague trappings of old country. It sucks
>>105963085Okay, then why are you acting like country music fans were leftist anarchists that killed cops and worshipped satan
>>105963152This is just a bunch of advertisements thinly veiled as music. Every verse has at least one brand name in it and implies that engaging with those brands are what it means to live the “fancy life.” God, at least rap music is honest about its vapid materialism.
>>105962218>le enlightened leftist disparaging the working classjust another day
>>105963551The comment you were responding to wasn't mine, though both of those things happened in older country music. Not necessarily leftist anarchy or Satan worshiping, but distrust of authority and deals with the devil.
>>105963612>asking for better music makes someone a leftistokay
>>105963550That's the best response I've seen in this thread, though I do wonder if country is inherently incompatible with digital instruments/auto tune/etc. Has there been a good country song to use them?
>>105962218Unironically the only country musician I’ve ever enjoyed is Johnny Rebel, mostly for lulz. Everything else I’ve listened to was just some retard rambling some shit over repetitive bland instrumentals. American primitivism (Fahey, Sandy Bull, etc.) >>>>>>> Country
>>105963551>leftist anarchists that killed copsThe people in those songs are more like the Posse Comitatus, right-wing sovereign citizens who believe that cops have no real power and are more than willing to kill them.
>>105962218>What ruined country music?Garth
>>105963550pop music has never been entirely separate from country. for example you can put on a 50s country tune and there's a bunch of cheesy "doo waa bah bah" backing vocals. put on a 70s country tune and it sounds like Seals & Crofts.
>>105963550>No, that’s the best part of countryIf I want to be preached to, I'll listen to gospel. Wanting to hear about a guy who's struggling with depression after his wife dies, mom goes to jail and his truck breaks down -- that's country.
>>105963758KekI was introduced to Johnny Rebel back in high school. Apparently he has been wiped from the internet. Fucking gay. You used to be able to listen to Alabama Nigger or whatever it was called on YouTube
>>105963970This, plus a lot of "real" Country like the Bakersfield guys would have been disparaged by older generations as "nigger music" because it had a pronounced rock 'n' roll backbeat.
>>105963551doesn't matter if you're leftist, anarchist, communist, conservative, white, black, asian, rich, poor, etc.--cops are your number one enemy.
>>105964142Yeah no shit, but rednecks in the 20th century didn't think that.
>>105963758american primitivism>art folk/contemporary folk>country rock>folk>bluegrass>traditional country>>>pop country>>>country rap
>>105964205you weren't even born in the 20th century, faggot.
>>105964205I would call you underage but then I remember that it's 2021, so there are people here who weren't even born in the 20th century.Outlaw Country became a genre in the 70's. Johnny Cash sang San Quentin in 1969. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e2B-thaJG0
>>105964205The idea that country music was police/authority cock sucking back in the "good ol' days" is a myth perpatrated by bootlickers.
>>105964325What about it?
>>105964205dumbest fucking thing I've read all day, congrats
>>105963970ha ha of course it does. this sounds exactly like 1955.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGpI4koy0Dgand this sounds exactly like 1978, all 'luded out hairy chest and shag carpet -corehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFXRIY6-fE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oodPqrjwNQcalso 78. Dolly goes disco. plus check out the melody that ended up reappearing in 9 to 5.
>>105963679wow not what I said, moron
>>105964657It's exactly what you said, faggot
nu country is just a shitty soundtrack for F250 commercials
>>105964444>>105964612Nice quads and I hope this shuts up people complaining about trap beats in 2010s country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLboy3aXA0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WtsJ5FxDRwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXhmrEizGBA1969. of course they sound like it. why wouldn't they?
>>105966525idk. the Conway Twitty tune is pretty basic and doesn't really feel like any era in particular but the Glen Campell tune is like bad 60s movie music.
I've never been much into country anyway.
country music is so manufactured and fake. its embarrassing they consider nashville the last place for real music and real musicians. what a joke
>>105966914i went to nashville once and was harassed and followed by the homeless
>>105966948yeah sounds about right
>>105962218the almost non existence of an strong alternative scene
>>105966914it's better than the LA industry, but that's more in the area of 5-10% better. and yes the 21st century mmuh baby mmuh Silverado mmuh flag mmuh 9/11 fug the liberalz kind of country is obnoxious and forced no matter what your politics are.
>>105962274second post best post. remember dixie chicks being cancelled for being antiwar?
>>105966914All music is manufactured and fake. You think rap and punk are real? Everything is just one big marketing gimmick.
>>105966525Conway Twitty's breakout hit was It's Only Make Believe which has a fucking doo-wop backing track so there you go.
>>105962281southern flavored pop rocks, and you know that truly what it is too
>>105962218Politically, Nixon, Reagan and Dubya and their crooked administrations effectively killed any attempt to proud of being a conservative. Nobody can defend shit like Vietnam, Watergate, the Plumbers, Iran-Contra, Reagan's pre-presidential involvement in the Iran hostage crisis, the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan. That's essentially why Trump was elected against the wishes of the Republican establishment, because almost nobody fucking believes or respects the conservative establishment of America anymore, not even American conservatives.Socially, the white country type areas have become ravaged by drugs. Meth, dope, it's turned into a crisis.Economically, lots of old production jobs have disappeared.An important thing to notice however is that hippie revolutionary music is also dead, all we have is its super-commercialized corpse puppeteered by big business, the fake "woke" shit that is enough to make anyone with a brain vomit. Country would be zombified too if there was enough money in it, but there isn't.
>>105962305WELL I WAS DRUNKTHE DAY MY MAWGOT OUTTA PRISONAND I WENTTO PICK HER UPIN THE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINBUT BEFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHCOULD GETTO THE STATION IN MY PICKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPTRUCKSHE GOT RUN OVER BY A DAMNED OL TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINAND AHHHHHHHHHHH'LL HAAAAAANG AROUND AS LONG AS YOU WILL LET ME
>>105962274Good answer.But honestly I've gone all the way down the country music rabbit hole and emerged on the other side with the realization that its always been demoralization propaganda designed to make people content with a poor quality of life by promoting alcoholism and ironic fatalism with basically zero optimism. I dont care how based or old your favorite country singer is, if they don't fit this criteria then their music was written to sell beer and boats.Take the classical pill and thank me later bros.
>>105971749not everything in life is a /pol/ MS Paint comic about the Jews doing this and that, dude
>>105971749>with basically zero optimismt.neveractuallylistenedtocountrymusicreally retarded and ignorant opinion.
>>105971848Who are you thinking of?
>>105971787I'm not trying to imply its a conspiracy. Self-deprecating humor and irony form like 80% of country music's lyrical DNA and that is purely a white Germanic/Angloid/Irish phenomenon that doesn't need any external push to appeal to whites of all walks of life. I just think its not healthy to indulge in music that's on the whole very negative and fatalistic. Like, sure, Hank Sr wrote about pain and heartache in incredibly accurate and beautiful detail, then he drank himself to death because he was a self-destructive degenerate with horrible taste in women.
>>105966988Well yeah, you've got people like this>>105962969>>105963310>>105967677Alternative scenes don't tend to be accepted in insular communities.
>>105970758Pretty spot on. I'm genuinely curious as to where country music will head in the future. They had the patriotic stuff on lockdown after 9/11 but that was 20 years go. Most of the incoming generation are tired of war and the ones I knew who were excited to join the military have lost their enthusiasm for service (and life in general).All that's left is cowboy pop music for meth-head trailer trash and dying boomers.
>>105972144>Self-deprecating humor and irony form like 80% of country music's lyrical DNA and that is purely a white Germanic/Angloid/Irish phenomenon that doesn't need any external push to appeal to whites of all walks of lifeChuck Berry borrowed many of his ideas from country it goes without saying, as black music wasn't really known for that slightly ironic, humorous type of storytelling.
>>105971855Country music is filled with optimism amidst the hard times. Its a major theme right from the very begining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHjm5sRqSA
>>105971848Yeah, I think the choice of zero optimism wasn't correct. A lot of the pop-country I hear is about being happy with the absolute minimum. You got your trailer, your truck, your beer, your girl, your god -- what more do you need? Oh, you want to study and get a degree so you can be white collar, maybe move up in the world? Fuck off with that shit, we don't like your kind round these parts.Pop country's moral is "ignorance is bliss."
>>105962218it has become inauthentic corporate trash cashing in on a specific sound and image. made for dumb retards
>>105970667that fucking hair
>>105962218Any country music before 1990 is good.
>>105975462Aside from early George Strait and Garth Brooks, the 80s were objectively worse than the 90s for radio country. 90s country was pretty good