Which subgenre has the most intolerant group of metalheads? I think it’s prog and black.
I have never met a metalhead that isn't intolerant. They're all narrow minded, mouth breathing, obese degenerates.
>>105932486>åkerfeldt, ruch, aarsethThey’re not mouth breathers but you’re right about them being pretentious.
The prog fan is the most persecuted
>>105932486You're probably some holier-than-thou progressist asshole. If there something metalheads despise is someone that acts they're better than them.
In theory NSBM I guess but in practice any metal show will have a pretty similar crowd. The corpse paint guys wear it to see death metal bands too.
>>105932546Ah shit yeah I'm familiar enough with Akerfeldt to know he's pretty open minded, I retract my statement. >>105932635You mean like most metalheads?
>>105932444Based 30 year old Boomer opinion is the best, yet againHow do we keep doing it?
>>105932580thisdeath fans are the most intolerant
>>105932444Black metal fans aren't as bad as e-clebs make it out to be, prog fans on the other-hand...
Death and grindcore
Hipster black metal fans and pretentious prog fans are tied for absolute worst, close second being people who go to beatdown hardcore gigs and complain about hardcore dancing/crowdkilling.Playing generic riffs in major instead of minor is not edgy, not new, not revolutionary, and most importantly NOT FUCKING HEAVY. Low T faggots can fuck right off.
>>105932486holy based>>105932444black metal fans for sure
Dad is most based
>>105932486You ok bro?
Only black, primitive death, doom, melodeath/Opeth and thrash are metal.
>>105933226'true metal' autist detected
>>105932444probably black metallers and old school 'real metal' metal dudes. Prog fans tend to be more annoyiing than intolerant. They'll listen to any music as long as it's complicated, so they'll think they have a super wide and diverse taste in music but can't name a single motown song, that kind of thing. but they can objectively tolerate more styles of music than other metal nerds.
>>105932444>tfw DadHonestly everything post 90s just feels like actual larping.
heavy metal doesn't even feel like metal to meI need SPEED
>>105932444metal peaked with ride the lightning, perioddon't @me
>be metal fan>spend all of your time listening to absolutely unlistenable garbage>don't even like it but indoctrinate yourself into thinking you do so you can have a "clique" to fit into>only joy you get out of it is to scare away normal people who may potentially be interested in the genre
>>105932444NSBM fans are technically the most intolerant, but I don't think that's what you meant.
Probably NSBM lmao
>>105934799You fucking faggots who are allergic to testosterone have literally every other genre to listen to, be a fan and shape the subculture of. Go listen to indie, go listen fucking radiohead, go listen to shoegaze, go listen to literally anything else. Nobody who actually enjoys metal wants to have to walk on eggshells and change our culture to better accomodate faggots like you, we don't need you and we don't want you, fuck off and die in a car crash.
>>105935881>You fucking faggots who are allergic to testosteroneimmediately after opening your spergout with macho posturing you're complaining about hipsters invading your safe spacebeyond pathetic
>>105935903Yeah, because being macho is all about letting faggots take your shit, claim it as their own creation and ruin it without ever resisting.
>>105932444what a terrible question I can't believe a thread died for thispeople who go outside and talk to people know that the majority of people you see at metal concerts don't have your subgenre fixation autism and are capable of forming nuanced opinions unlike wojak posters.belligerent closeminded morons are listening to every subgenre right now as I type. you people get your perception of the metal community entirely from the internet huh faggots?obviously the less popular a particular subgenre or artist is, and the less accessible it is, the more people will incorporate it into their identity as a coping mechanism, purposefully getting into arguments as a means of validating their ego. but the more popular, older metal bands have a much larger army of fanboys and boomers so every type of horrible metal subgenre opinion exists in relatively equal proportion. /metal/ leans towards preferring extreme metal so it skews toward heavy metal, melodeath, and prog hate but you see everything there.>>105932699thank you for not feeling so compelled to double down like the less mature folks on 4chan.orgalso I love Mikael Akerfeldt>>105932938>crowdkilling is anything other than utterly retarded ridiculous! in addition to looking stupid it also badly hurts people for the crime of being at a concert. in a perfect world anyone caught crowdkilling would get tackledthe people who do it deserve nothing but derision. the genre of the concert is irrelevant because getting decked in the face shouldn't be a requirement for listening to a band. 105935023never happenedsounds like you got utterly filtered as a consequence of your innate inferiority
>>105936032I somehow replied to >>105932938 instead of crowdkilling guy aka >>105933226 WOOPSIES
>>105935968keep resisting by seething on /mu/, brave alpha male warrior
>>105935968you would get beat up if you tried your virgin tantrum in real life
>>105936032>badly hurts people for the crime of being at a concertFirst of all people getting "badly hurt" from crowdkilling is extremely rare, the only case I can remember was in 2015. With that said, people who go to beatdown concerts know what they're getting into, if some hipster faggot wants to go to a beatdown concert to just stand there like a fucking pussy, getting in the way of people who are trying to have fun and on top of it all act like a fag when people start hardcore dancing too close to him, they deserve a good "accidental" kick in the head.I'll concede, however, that hardcore dancing in death metal shows is stupid and hardly ever ends well.
>>105936083Yeah bro, the hipster mafia is out to get me. They're going to club me to death with their dildos.
>>105936236mentally well adjusted people at metal shows hate morons like you
>>105936214>>105936032i saw crowd killing at a between the buried and me show last month. also, there were some prog purists talking in line behind me. memes are based in reality
Prog thrash fans are cool, while the absolute worst are the wine sipping Opeth fans. Second place goes to metallic hardcore tards and, God i hate this word, hipster metal fans, the ones that listen to shitty nu-sludge and concept albums onlyT>>105933226Hate to say it but he's right
Black metal dweebs are the most irritating. The edgy and elitist bullshit is off the charts.
Honestly everyone I've ever gotten into conversations with in real life about metal have been pretty cool. All the autistic screeching on the internet is just banter and a lot of you are just too underage to realize
>>105932444The black metal community is by far the most open-minded among all music communities..Open-mindedness does however require you to be intolerant sometimes.. For instance, when you're dealing with low IQ sub-humans with whom you can't communicate using logic
>>105936891Seems like someone was rightfully called out for being the poser they are.
>>105937892>newfag doesn't knowFuck you for making me side with a tripfag
>>105932444you forgot the stoner/doom metal purist
>>105932546Åkerfeldt is anything but pretentiousHe used to change tyres in the early days of Opeth
Imagine listening to metal, lol. Find a bass
I like power metal
this album is basically my metal taste in a shellnut dunno what category that is of OPs image
>>105938877Avantasia is my favorite.
If more than 300 people have listened to a band's demo, it's no good.
>>105932486Go to a metal bar one night when a band is in town and you'll see how wrong you are.
RUN TO THE HIIIIILLS
black metal is by far my favorite subgenre but I wouldn't even consider myself a metalhead
The way this is written makes it sound like literally everyone but this guy is a poser, is that intentional?
>>105939989The only non posers here are:>the gatekeeper>dad>the fuckin' new guy
>>105932486no lies detected
>>105932444Powerfags are by far the most autistic.
What metal music to I listen to If I almost exclusively listen to funk and boomer slow fuck jams/ yacht rock
>>105940557https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHHkxUqqnQ4easy question.To be fair though, yeah, I'd say metal is gatekeeped the hardest. Sometimes I wonder how meal fans feel when a lot of modern rappers like Zillakami mix black metal and their past experiences in the genre with new school hip hop, but then i realise I don't care.
>>105932486most metalheads I know listen to a much greater variety of music than the average normie
>>105932444I can't even be considered a /meal/fag nowadays, in fact I'm a fucking indeh fag, but back in my teens I was kind of a metalhead so unlike most Indiefags that started listening to metal because of p4k, consuming every fotm Blackgaze/Drone/Post-metal/Avant-garde death metal album, I know what metal niche I truly love and that's Thrash and maybe 1st Wave bm, because they're just fucking punkspecial mention to Technical/Prog thrash which I absolutely adore because of albums like >>105938872 (sounds like punk too they're basically canuck Die Kreuzen with Post-punk bass), still love all that stuff nowadays, Sadus, Holy Terror, Mekong Delta, Artillery, SOD, Megadeth whatever about the metalheads I know in real life, I've never truly met a massive asshole, just ignorant people sometimes and then lots of regular metalheads, maybe I WAS the asshole when I teased some of my best friends for listening to modern metalcore, Sabaton or Dream Theater... aaaaah I remember when me, my bro and some other friends listened to Death Angel, Metallica, Pantera and Exodus togetherbtw one very good friend of mine who's a Deathcore bitch knows this guy who is apparently a gargantuan asshole, and he's a technicalfag band / drama kid and a massive Dream Theater fan always talking shit about other music cause it doesn't have wank, so I guess those people do exist
>>105932444fixed your image
>>105932444yea probably the black metal fans. i like black metal but there's alot of elitists more so than other genres>>105932486most metalheads are probably more open minded than the aversge npc and probably more friendly as well
>>105941253What are those lyrics from?
>>105935173>>105935712I still don't understand what, other than lyrics, differentiates NSBM with regular black metal
>>105941641Nothing, ns is an adjective, bm is the genre
I'm one of those "listen to anything" guys so I often wonder if my taste in metal is enigmatic because I'm just a deep lover of music. Some metal bands that I really enjoy>Black Sabbath (Ozzy era in particular though Dio era certainly has some good songs) >Megadeth>Messugah>System of A Down>Slipknot>Neurosis>Earth>Sunn O)))>Melvins>Thrones>Harvey Milk>Electric Wizard>Dio>Mastodon >Ulver>Corrupted>Deafheaven>Pall Bearer>Baroness>Converge ("hardcore" band sorry I hear metal when I listen to this shit. It's not a punk sub genre band I can't agree with that. Sure they're very raw and have punk like moments but they're too god damn heavy to not be metal sorry.)>Rage Against the MachineIs there any through line with these bands or am I just a "like what I like" metal listener?
>>105942746Diverse but surface level
>>105935881>muh testosterone>muh culturehate to break it to you but metal has never been a chad genre. The only time actual high test chads were into metal was when Limp Bizkit were big. This isn't about 'faggots' taking 'your' shit, it's about you being heavily autistic and therefore reacting badly to change in your comfort music.
>>105942843U ok bro?
>>105935881Genuinely one of the most pathetic posts I have ever seen in my near-decade on this board. I'm both embarrassed and sad for you, anon, and I hope you find the help you need. Go outside, exercise, fix your diet, please, it's not too late.
>>105942746Ulver is a synthpop band
>>105942746You are just a tourist
>>105942746>Megadeth>System of A Down>Slipknot>Rage Against the MachineThese ones are all pretty gay dude, get better taste.
>>105932444hardcore or punk anything its not even a debate
>>105942884that's as wrong as calling them metal,they do some sort of downtempo electronic dark wave music.
>>105942849i'm doing good thanks bro, how bout u?
>>105942891>>105942904You ok bro?
>>105932444The gatekeeper is unironically correct, except thrash is mostly gay and most tech death is good
>>105942938I'm great thanks for asking :)Have a wonderful day!
>>105942782Yeah I'm not really listening to obscure stuff but when I'm also listening to jazz, classical, indie, electronic, folk, edm, rap, I'm less inclined to do deep dives into any genre in particular. I'm not mad about it though. I have a long time to get to more bands. >>105942891That's fine I'm a tourist in every genre except maybe rap which I can say I've listened to hundreds of records. Doesn't bother me. >>105942884>>105942914And I'm the tourist somehow lol their first and third records are black metal so I mentioned them.
>>105942941Why would I not be?Just saying your taste is bad, it's not subjective
>>105942960the first albums are just distorted pop music, they have always been a pop band
>>105942978U ok bro?
>>105935881Extreme spergout post
>>105942978It's not weak to reach out for help. Praying for you.
>>105932444Thrash, because most of them are really young fans just getting into "extreme" metal and they generally take the whole metal image very seriously. Hard Rock fans are as cancerous because they believe the classics are the pinacle of music composition. As of now (post-web2.0) metal fans (of any subgenre) seem to be relatively tolerant. There's some maturity implied in branching out within subgenres, or at least that's what I've observed. t.32 yo loser
>>105942938you too buddy! :)
>>105943008wtf are you saying bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDMDV6kO-4&ab_channel=Ulver-Topic
>>105932444Fells good to be a gatekeeper, all the rest sucks.
>>105943323Well memed fren
>>105932486I still think Punk fans are the absolute worst. They want their music to be as shitty and dumbed down as possible
>>105942746All good popular bands, nothing wrong with this.
>>105939017you're the new guy (that's not a bad thing)
>>105941430>X-Japantoo based for life
>>105937957The most based. Though we're more rockers than metalheads
I like dio
>>105942904>filtered by Megadeth
>>105932444At what point can one be considered a metalhead? Do you have to dress the part and be active in the scene or is simply knowing and listening to a lot of metal enough?
>>105946492If u have to ask, then it's not for you
>>105932814Dont know but I fucking love motorhead. Cant seem to find a good alternative. There was a temp band Speedwolf which I liked but it seemed that they quit.
>>105932444what a reddit imagei only listen to dsbm and other suicide motivator metal subgenres
is alternative metal considered "real" metal?
>>105947390Name your favorite band and I'll judge if you like metal or not
>>105947403SOAD are pretty good
>>105947428But what's the heaviest band you like? That determines if u meal or not
>>105947390Depends, alternative metal is an umbrella term like progressive metal is.
>>105942746>>Converge ("hardcore" band sorry I hear metal when I listen to this shit. It's not a punk sub genre band I can't agree with that.Well, you are right about this. Converge, Earth Crisis, Hatebreed and their followers (Code Orange, Knocked Loose) are much more metal sounding than 1980s hardcore sounding. I think the differing subcultures and lyrical topics is the only reason people tried to separate them from metal.
the fool thinks that there are good and bad genres of metal. The wise man realises that every genre of metal has 4 or 5 great artists and hundreds of mediocre imitators and none are better than the other in this regard
in any case, this days, metal is not as intolerant as it is hypster indie rock and folk.
>>105934799Hipster “intellectual” faggot spotted
Listen, I’m not some fucking incel autist but elitist behavior IS a good thing for metal, especially nowTo give you people some perspective on why black metal fans hate blackgaze so much you have to understand that they think of it as a mockery of the genre, imagine if a rap music fan hear music made by a white person whos never stepped foot outside of the suburbs or a prestigious collage, and this guy is “rapping” about how awesome and rich he is, and the beat is just a trap beat with banjo music, and you can tell by how he raps that he hasn’t even actually listened to that much rap in the first place, you can imagine how rap fans would feel about thatHopefully someone got some insight and now understands why us black metal fans hate blackgaze, and other shitty soulless trends that have emerged in the genre recently
I think the black metal elitists are right about the impact that blackgaze is having and how it's ruining the genre. However I also think that black metal is among the worst subgenres of metal with one of the most autistic fanbases, and it's fun to watch it get ruined.
>>105948829whats are your favorite bands?
>>105949358in metal? off the top of my head Atheist, Gojira, Iron Maiden, Limp Bizkit, Meshuggah, Megadeth are all in my top tier.
>>105933226One of the best metal albums of all time is proggy brutal death metal played in major scales.
>>105949840Looks like a pretentious Nile clone. Proggy shit is not heavy and major scale riffs are (with very few exceptions) not heavy either.
>>105950803Checked it out just to be sure and as expected, it's not all that heavy (especially considering it's a brutal death metal album), it's not entirely in major (the only good riff in the first song is a chromatic caveman riff) and all the "le happy brutal death metal riff in major xD" pretentious shit and jazzy prog sections suck.
>>105935023That's probably the same case for indie, jazz and rap.
>>105941253>babymetal most pit>rym core bandsdamn, the "weeb" sounds like the biggest fag ever.
Tfw I am confined to power and progressive metal because I am pianist and I only like music if I can imagine me playing it.
>>105937892U ok bro.?
>>105950974Metallum disagrees with you.
>>105951586Metallum is gay.
>>105947487Below the lights is a lot of fun.
I'm the "listened to Electric Wizard and Sleep and Melvins and lost interest and went back to techno"
Honestly, anyone who becomes a purist/gatekeeper for any genre kills it slowly. Music exists to be changed over time, to reflect the change in the world, like most great art does. If you are just adhering to a genre's rules because some faggots had a really fun moshpit in 1987 and can't imagine anything more fun than that, then you are killing the genre. You are dating it. Bands that play "pure thrash" are the most boring bands out there and it fucking shows.This goes for all genres too. Not all Indie has to sound like one Pavement song on loop. Pop music should've moved on from Britney Spears clones by now. Drake has released the same album for 10 years. Whoever thinks that Classic Rock is the only good music out there makes the genre a laughing stock.Seriously, grow up. Allow the art to change and see the beauty that comes from it. If not, then you are just listening to content, rehashed like vomit.
>>105952168I understand the point you're making but there is a difference between innovating a certain genre and then stripping all of it's qualities and shifting the sound completely. This isn't always the case but blackgaze among other certain genres attach the label of "black metal" simply due to the loose blast beats and shrieking in their vocals, ignoring the fact that there are a handful of extreme and post metal bands that do the exact same thing. There can be more nuances to a genre that still keep true to the prospects of what said genre is, but then there's slapping a label and trying to jump into a scene just for the sake of it. But that's just me.
>>105952168The music can change. Metal is staying where it is.
>>105949478>gojira>meshuggah>atheistinto the trash it goes
>>105952168U ok bro?
>>105952457How can you talk with my balls in your mouth?Just because we pwnd you guys in the court today doesn't mean you can come and crash my par-tay
>>105952528An then my mom god scared and told me I'm moving with my auntie and uncle in belair
>>105952528U ok bro.?
>>105932635>If there something metalheads despise is someone that acts they're better than themWhy do they hate themselves so much?
>>105952550ay yo fat boy, I brought some chocolate tooyou probably need it to replace some energy after the game.
>>105952573U ok bro?
>>105952585chow down fat boy.
traditional doom metal > funeral doom > nwobhm > heavy metal > classic thrash metal > osdm > black metal > everything else > prog metal > stoner doom
>>105952596U ok lass?
>>105952550>>105952585>>105952600wow this shtick is so funny and original
>>105952600hey there, I noticed you on the court today *ffff* I love your uniform shorts *ffff* they're so fabulous *ffff*, are they sergio valente?
>>105936423I saw them last month too but fortunately no crowd killing. Only the usual retards who can’t stay in the pit and run into everyone else.
>>105952618>>105952638U ok bro?
>>105952727slim, you white trash con, I knew you'd amount to nothing, I knew it, well I just cam to gloat. These titties you got me, they're paying off, and I got a rich man now, and he's got me wrapped in minks and diamonds and you are just smelly shit
>>105952778U ok bro?
>>105952597Power Metal >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>traditional doom metal > funeral doom > nwobhm > heavy metal > classic thrash metal > osdm > black metal > everything else > prog metal > stoner doom
>>105952428but you're keeping limp bizkit?
genres and elitists aside, I think we can all agree that metal has been and always will be inferior to rap
>>105953008rap isn't a music genre.
>>105953008>rap>musicPick one wigga
>>105932444ok but actually any bands like Metallica or Megadeth?
>>105953409A bunch go look for them
>>105953429thanks I'll look them up soon
>>105953409>>105953442toxik, havok, reign of fury, evile, annihilator, testament, death angel, artillery, exodus, xentrix, testament, flotsam and jetsam
>>105932580they hate us because we speak the truth
>>105932444Seems like prog metal has a reputation of pretentiousness but I don’t know anything about music and the stuff I like always turns out to be prog. I don’t even really know what qualifies something as “progressive” to be honest. I guess I just like that the music is always changing and isn’t very repetitive, and it usually tells a cool story like Parallax II by BTBAM or anything by Haken.
>>105955833Seeing pretentiousness in others is the most pretentious thing someone can do. There's nothing worse than faggots complaining about a thing being pretentious. Yes, this post is pretentious and it is because it has to be.The problem with prog metal is that you have some truly great bands that simply make good metal and don't write something within a genre, like Edge of Sanity or Opeth who end up in the same category with some of the dullest, blandest shit possible that also gets called prog metal. Most bands fall in the second category, you have tons shit of prog metal bands who have no idea about Magma or Gentle Giant and their influences are the same old Metallica, Pantera and some other bands that everyone is listening to. I love prog rock, but I can't stand prog metal.
>>105955880What makes something progressive?What is the difference between rock and metal? In your opinion obviously
I don't really care to define genres all that much and i tend to just listen to what sounds good to me but what the fuck is supposed to be the difference between power, thrash, and speed metalFor example to my ear mega death and blind guardian should be in the same genre
>>105955949Speed metal is not a genre, it's an idea of playing fast.Megadeth and Blind Guardian are nothing alike.Also note that Blind Guardian has changed their sound a lot through the ages.Power metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9k5fi_A0chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTuLG-9aw30Thrash metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkpOuqJbh0Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKanmLGBEJA
>>105955949Speed metal originated in the mid-late 1970s and early 1980s as a much faster subgenre of traditional heavy metal. There's traditional heavy metal bands with speed metal songs like Judas Priest, but speed metal bands almost exclusively play fast. Power metal and thrash metal both split off from speed metal in the mid-80s.Thrash metal is a combination of speed metal with early 1980s hardcore punk.Power metal was more of an evolution of speed metal in which often played in major scales, were very chorus centric, and tends to be very dramatic and melodic.Speed metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKfNrRC3DIcThrash metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smt50tVpS0cPower metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkndcGUCZ4>>105956522Speed metal is a legitimate subgenre, saying it's just "metal played fast" is like saying that doom metal isn't a real genre becaucse it's metal played slow.
>irlnice people in my experience>onlinewaste of fuckin air
>>105932444The stages of a metal fan:1. non-metal but similar music2. obsessed with the new sound but not comfortable with expanding beyond the first few bands he found3. starts adventuring and collecting as if it's an all you can eat4. starts getting picky5. starts becoming elitist6. remembers he likes more genres than metal and that can apply to the subgenres of metal, begins to loosen up7. listens to and enjoys a wide range of good metal, thinks most metalheads are retarded for being elitists8. metal? yeah have you listened tojudas priest or melo death?
>>1059574189. the prog fanYou either die as an elitist or live long enough to become too careless to even give a shit about new music.
>>105957474i never had that transition. i've heard prog metal, some of it is alright but it never had a mainstay effect on me. i prefer other genres of music nowadays.
metalfags are only elitist and intolerant to other subgenres of metal they think are shit. outside of metal they don't care.
>>105957536I should generalise, it can also be classical.
>>105957418>The stages of a touristfixed that for you
>>105952554I don't hate myself. I hate everyone else. But I'm not enough of a narcisist to think I'm any better, thus my anger being directed to people that think they are.
>>105957905>getting mad because someone is better than youClassic narcissism
I only listen to Type O Negative
>>105960220>saying someone is getting mad because someone is acting as if they're better than him then calling him a narcisist>no, u
>all this seethe towards BMThis truly was: Fuel For Hatred
>mfw I'm a prog purist>*cries in 7/8*
>>105942843>The only time actual high test chads were into metal was when Limp Bizkit were big>the epitome of masculinity are pretty boy high school jocksThe absolute state of /mu/. Tbf this is to be expected, considering 80% of /mu/'s userbase is underage.
>>105960719och så en apa på axeln
>>105932486I'm not obese
>>105968646but you're a mouth breather?
>>105932444Most definitely either black or thrash.