Please post your current projects, what you're working on, discuss songwriting and give feedback and encouragement to others.
https://vocaroo.com/1eN3qjauRGZKStarting off with a song I wrote three years ago and scrapped. I thought it was too religious at the time but I quite like it now. Your thoughts much appreciated.
What do you guys think of these? They are rough trackings but I need to pinpoint all of the shit parts and eliminate them.https://voca.ro/1eerLtQ1kEWBhttps://voca.ro/16k5nh521ium>>104877447Mabey instead of "we live in such strange times" you could say "we're living in strange times" as it fits a bit better syllable wise. Overall your song is good but at times it feels like you could workshop a few of these lines to fit into the song a bit better rhythmically. Could work as is though as long as it's stylistically intentional.
>>104877612Thanks for the feedback. I like the second song, great opening line. I think there's a tad too much distortion on the vocals on the first song, it's hard to decipher the lyrics at time.
>>104877659Yeah I'd agree that somehow the vocal effect in the first one feels off, I was also thinking about chopping the verses in half. Thanks man.
>>104877447Just started playing this in a minor key and I possibly prefer it. If thread still alive tomorrow will record it for comparison
>>104877612>https://voca.ro/1eerLtQ1kEWBkinda catchy but its also kinda long? could try switching up that drum beat unless you're going for the droney mood >https://voca.ro/16k5nh521iumalso catchy. fan of negative xp?>>104877447i like the vocal melody. im imagining someone like adrianne lenker singing this and bringing in heaps of character. i think that's what's missing heresome very short recent things that need a lot of work stillhttps://vocaroo.com/1iXZugAElTgKhttps://vocaroo.com/1hRvJN5wjkzfhttps://vocaroo.com/147nPmgCWXb9 (might hurt, very harsh)misc straight to vocaroo recordingshttps://vocaroo.com/1c6OVKR29hz4https://vocaroo.com/1dWAjbIdL0P2
>>104877419fedtobeasts.bandcamp.comit might be garbage, I don’t know.
I’ve been out of the loop with songwriting/new independent artists. Vocaroo? Is that what everyone is using now to share music ideas? Any other new sites I should be aware of besides the obvious ones?
>>104881377Vocaroo is just how people on these boards share. It just upload and link, no profiles.
Some low quality demos from a jam session between me and my friends, might as well throw it out here to see what happens. Since it's a jam it's a mess, but I wanted to hear the thoughts on some of the main ideas.https://voca.ro/1enjTz0B1q5Xhttps://voca.ro/1hQv8tMRS625>>104879475>https://vocaroo.com/1hRvJN5wjkzfI like this one a lot, though I can only imagine that drum come in as part of a chorus and I felt something was empty when it went out - like it needed something else to at least occupy that same space of attention if not noise.>https://vocaroo.com/1iXZugAElTgKThe MIDI is cheesy but I like the chord changes. Have you considered ripping off Jens Lekman and going with a sample here?>https://vocaroo.com/147nPmgCWXb9Silly, but I dig it.
>>104877419I'm working on a retro-style song, but I don't know if it clicks with other people.https://vocaroo.com/16FbIdJ9t2Gg
>>104882127You nailed the period down at least.
>>104877612First song needs a chorus
>>104882118Drums are bad on the first song. Doesn't blend well.Second song starts well, but when the drums come in later it gets bad.
>>104882188The drumset is fucked, especially the cymbals. It's part of the reason it sounds so bad - the cymbals are missing pieces, bent out of shape, all that.
>>104882214I don't think it's the cymbals, it's just that it goes too hard for something that should go a little slower. If you can keep up the drums how they were at around 25 seconds for the second song it would be a lot better.
>>104882127Drums are sloppy, falling out of time. But aside from that it’s very nice, your singing is good but falters when you try to push higher. So it’s good, just fix your drums.
>>104882239That one was a complete wash of a longform jam, there's two other recordings that are notable of that session:https://voca.ro/14ccT7jw66S0 (cutting down the jam into something resembling a song, more notable in that I hold back in the guitar department a bit to give the song more dynamics)https://voca.ro/1enRcxqB5zBj (this second one is faster but we didn't do anything with it)
>>104882127everything besides the drums sounds really damn nice. i wanna cry
>>104882157>>104882209Thanks, I didn't want it to sound to be sung too modern so I tried being a little operatic.>>104882292>>104882306I played each drum part individually in one take. If it's distracting I'll try harder to stay in time or just cut them into place. The snare is too rough as well.I envisioned it as a sort of urban ballet.
>>104882299I like the bass work a lot, just sounds like 3 good ideas clashing a bit. Maybe trade between solos or something and then agree on a riff together.
i posted this track several threads ago, but only the acoustics, now it has drums :3https://voca.ro/14uhtpushTrK
>>104882453The quality is a bit low, like its recorded from speakers. But I like the groove.
>>104882505it was all recorded with my phone, i'm saving to get a mic. glad you liked it
I'm working on a song inspired by Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino. I like the guitar and bass on the track but I'm desperate for drums. I also want to write lyrics but I don't know where to start. https://voca.ro/1iuvRcy2gWxx
These are lyrics dedicated to my best friend. Are they decent or too cheesy?The tears of laughter, the feelings foundWith just hear your voice, is more than enoughNothing will ever change the love i feel for youWe are together againIt took so long to find a soul sisterTrue understanding, true honestyI don't know how can i ever thank youWe are together againI wait for hours till the night time it's hereBut when it comes, oh believe me when i say, that nothing else really matters anymoreSuddenly, night is on my sideIt gets a bit shorter, but so much bright I'll be there for you, in the good and badsWe are together again
>>104882565>>104882576Use fewer wordshttps://vocaroo.com/12IQf8njf2ph
>>104882631>https://voca.ro/14uhtpushTrKWe aren't the same people. I didn't post lyrics lol.
>>104882666Feel free to throw some ideas out thoooo
>>104882668You should listen to some French Chansons, the bass line sorta follows that appeal.
>>104882683link me some songs pls
This is my contribution, here's my bandcamp too since all of those are voice memos too lolhttps://vocaroo.com/1b6pLI4L2lC8https://quirkyer.bandcamp.com/l>>104877447love this shit, feels familiar... aren't you Neil Matthew Fox from those shill threads?>>104882453i like it, sounds like it'd be used for a commercial on anti-depressants or viagra or something
Does anyone here have any vocal melody tips? I'm a pretty advanced guitar player so I normally try and write a single string line and sing it.
>>104883022hum really cringy things that are out of your vocal range
>>104883058And then slam melodyne on it?
>>104883086shit i didnt finish my point. heres my process>hum nonsense things out of my range. i mean like real nonsense>find words later>change melody over and over again>have words>pretend im someone else and sing as some character (out of my range again)>change words over and over again
>>104883022Sing everything you play. Sing to a lot of sings of all different styles. Practice improvising on guitar and sing that. Then sing improv while playing and eventually it’ll come the same as guitar playing does. Probably even more naturally, but it’s still a “skill” you need to develop
I will post a song if it turns out “alright”!
>>104883196>>104883591Ty, I tried to take your advice to a shit beat I put together, is it awful? (not the mix, I'm aware of that)https://vocaroo.com/19AZ5Ek1vCRI
>>104884251its not awful. the melody is quite catchy, however it gets old quick because the delivery is your usual indie lethargic tone. you could either bring in energy through fx, or go back to the microphone and scream out some of those lines to spice it up
>>104884293Thanks mate, I've currently got covid-19 so my throats all kinds of fucked up, when I'm all good I'll give it some beans
>>104877419>>104877419All my fucking writing these past couple of months sound generic, uninspired, and boring. I dont know how to make my feelings interesting anymore ahhhhhI might write a few good lines but it ends there. Any ideas bros?
>>104877612these sound like steven universe songs
>>104882926Yep, I’m Neil. I recognise your Bandcamp, enjoyed Sacred Songs / Satan Songs.
>>104882118the first song is excellent, minus the drums obvthe second is also good, certain parts remind me of something from La Dispute
>>104882453Nice chords bro!
>>104882127Wow anon, this is lovely. Any tips on producing backing harmonies like this
>>104882127I really like it. You’ve captured the sound you’re going for really well. Congratulations.
Who invented swag?
>>104885220Possibly me, the OP. I first tried a songwriting general a few years ago but it didn’t take off that well. Maybe someone beat me to it before, not sure.
>>104885363I should mention someone else suggested calling it /swag/, I originally went with /swg/
>>104884595Glad you liked it, what's the title of the one you posted? It's really good
>>104885972Thanks mate. I think I’m going with ‘There’s No Going Back’.
Again thanks to anyone who listened and gave any sort of feedback. >>104879475I'd totally agree that the first song feels too repetitive. I'm thinking of making a clearer chorus and then possibly cutting the verses in half to make it tighter. Personally for the first song I would add more reverb to the strings and piano(?) hits in this. It would make them seem more organic in the mix because right now its pretty clear that they are just plugins and although that isn't a bad thing it takes away from the overall feeling of the song. Your call. For the second track I really dig the percussion. I'd say the vocals are too quiet, pretty hard to make out what you're saying at times. Overall very solid though, maybe make the guitars at the end harsher? For the third track I'd say it's pretty solid. Might double the guitar tracking to make it feel a bit more fleshed out or add some bass or something, but the writing is there, and it's got a coherent feel. I'd say that these all feel pretty short and I'm sure thats by design, but you might wanna experiment with making them a bit longer if you want. As for the straight to vocaroo recordings, love the first one, I'm pretty sure I've heard it here before. Good shit. For the second one, I know this is just a rough tracking but for a slower song like that I'd say a kick drum could go a long way in making it feel more whole.>>104882174Yeah I'd agree. I was trying to make that shorter repeated segment work as one but I don't think I did nearly enough to distinguish it>>104884429Dear god I've gotten some harsh shit before but somehow this cut deep. I appreciate the honesty, I'm starting to hear it now. I guess I'll just keep going through and fucking with things until I can't anymore.
>>104883878https://vocaroo.com/1d236t0rBBJAprobably gayest thing ive made in a while, wasnt my intention, improvised singing and guitar and added whatnot, cringe singing, but realized couldnt sing on track i had actually writtenhttps://vocaroo.com/1CuFXDaNsjmKthe instrumental of track i had written, i would change some things
https://youtu.be/YhzliIWuwRgWrote some lyrics for this but thinking it's fine as an instrumental. I don't have the lyrics recording so basically asking - how does it sound?
>>104887517I don’t think there’s enough going on for it to be an instrumental. It didn’t hold my attention.
>>104887554It's only guitar because I don't have any other instruments/programs. What do you think it could do with?
I am planning on essentially locking myself in my room to solely make music for either two weeks or a month. Here are what my current guidelines are for myself>Dark room (trashbags over windows)>1 meal a day>Only work (which is sporadic) and necessary events are allowed>Aside from timers no looking at clocks>no wifi connection (aside from hour long daily intervals where I can look up questions)>No speaking unless it’s singing, talking to myself, or responding to someone shortly>1 shower a day after I wake up for 30 minutes>Booze allowedwhat else should I add rules wise and does anyone have any advice for as to how to implement these rules effectively? for instance, how can I set temporary restrictions on my laptops wifi connection since I need it to make music but I don't want it to have access to anything but my recording software. Also any opinions on wether to do it for two weeks or a month? Any other suggestions? I value any input here.
>>104887900Checked.I would add no fap to the list of rules. Sexual tension might help.
>>104888093You're right. I'm sure no internet will help with this too and I've been meaning to kick the habit anyways.
>>104886734https://vocaroo.com/1ACo9KasOj28alright wrote lyrics and tracked vocals. "rock" shit is retarded
>>104884892>>104882926>i like it, sounds like it'd be used for a commercial on anti-depressants or viagra or somethingHaha thanks guys. Glad you enjoyed it
I will listen to your songs when I wake up
>>104890847Hey... wake up!
>tfw I've failed at every instrument I've tried to learn>I have the music in my head, but can't figure out how to get it out>I have no close friends that can play instruments>I've been writing lyrics since I was 16, now I'm 29 about to turn 30 and haven't done anything with them, nor shared them with anyone because I feel like they're never goodHow does one break the wall down of over critical thinking and outrageous fear?
>>104892050Just adopt an artist pseudonym and post your stuff untied to your daily identity to insulate you from any embarrassment. And learn an instrument.
>>104892050You need to try harder with an instrument. It’s not difficult to learn chords on guitar, after six to twelve months of dedicated practice you should be able to play at a basic enough level to write your songs. I was writing songs weeks into learning guitar.
>>104888270Nice guitar riff
You show someone your music. They say>"I like the vibe"What does it mean?You show someone your music. They say>"It's cute"What does it mean?Is it... bad?
How do you get the balls to sing in front of people? I can send stuff to people on the internet and its fine but live is just scary.
>>104893937The first is good, the second is probably bad. Like the time someone told me after an open mic “I like your music, it’s so quaint!”.
>>104893961Live is exhilarating. The first few times are absolutely terrifying but nothing beats that adrenaline rush of going on stage, especially if you are an otherwise shy person like me. It’s brilliant, I can’t wait to play live again and hold an audience’s attention.
>>104893982I imagine it's easier if you're confident in your voice, which I am not.
>>104894039I’m quite confident in my voice but I am not a particularly accomplished guitar player. This is me >>104877447
>>104893967>the second is probably badThis is how I interpret it, though I've shared songs by other artists (that I'm into) and have heard an identical>"It's cute"response>“I like your music, it’s so quaint!”Out of the two (cute and quaint), I'd prefer the latter. Calling something cute, to me, comes across like >"You tried. Here is a participation award">>104893961This isn't something I've done yet. I like being able to monitor myself as I sing so I don't know how feasible this would be. Also this >>104894039
>>104894064Your playing and your voice sound pretty good to me.
>>104894175Thanks. I’m a bit of a one trick pony on guitar, I can do fast fingerpicking patterns well. I’d like to be able to play more melodically.
Why do you hate it?https://voca.ro/11OBxYsPZve3
>>104879475>https://vocaroo.com/1iXZugAElTgKupdate on this one https://vocaroo.com/1jeZr4gJ57tG>>104886636>Personally...I completely missed this yesterday night. They're not at all short by design. I haven't got a good process for writing a full song, so I get stuck working vertically. I would love to make all of these longer.>straight to vocaroo recordingsI posted a recording of the first one in a previous thread but lost the link! Had to record it again. I think I wanna pull way back and focus on using 2-3 instruments, as opposed to throwing in every synth that catches my eye.>(You)Anyway, I haven't seen Steven's Universe so my unbiased opinion is that your songs are catchy. I've got one of your vocal melodies in my head atm. (kinda reminds me of that He-Man "Hey, What's going on?" song, specifically the line "feeling... a little peculiar") I'd love to record more instrumentals but it's so overwhelming. Here's an old guitar riff that I haven't used.https://vocaroo.com/1fpIwrqwnGziOther short / cheesy ones:https://vocaroo.com/14jzt7qo8bVihttps://vocaroo.com/196va7Fop2vOhttps://vocaroo.com/104XH7kqWVFX (definitely not "I Want Candy")https://vocaroo.com/15c4oMFR46Tmhttps://vocaroo.com/1jl3RS6a1oBJ>>104894260>Why do you hate it?Since you explicitly asked: The kick is thumpy but muddy. It very quickly becomes distracting. If you wanted to, you could widen the stereo image and pan all those synths. Might fix that muddy feeling.
>>104882127That's a beautiful song anon.
>>104895278>Sounds like whats going onthanks man that makes me feel better lol. I love that song. >Old guitar riffthat shit sounds dope man, if I were you I wouldn't be afraid to fuck around with guitar effects over synths if you want to pull back from synths a bit. Your playing style is very distinct and I feel like that could go a long way if you just started fucking around nonstop with tremolo, fuzz, and other wacky shit. Again though that's what I love doing so I'm biased, it did help me hide my own shit guitar skills though so for someone who's as good at finger style as you it would probably add up. >Cheesy onesthe line between cheesy and genuine is thin and sometimes undetectable. All of these sound catchy if not a little unfinished at times (at least for a few). The last one sounds the most complete to me but I'm a sucker for organs. I'd say a lot of these could benefit from more backing vocals, but do what your comfortable with. thing I've been working on for the last few days thats completely unfinished after the solohttps://voca.ro/1iZXUmRmveLY
>>104895926>tremolo, fuzz, and other wacky shit.Have only got an acoustic guitar so I gotta make do Ableton amp. sims. If it wasn't for the fact that I can't play it in real-time, I'd just stick with this. There's insane resonance when I live monitor with fx. slapped on.>the line between cheesy and genuine is thin and sometimes undetectableI feel like it's impossible to *not* feel all your shit is cheesy without having a complex to some capacity. >thing I've been working on>https://voca.ro/1iZXUmRmveLYThat first vocal melody is in line with something Bladee would release. >>104890847bros... they never woke upv,_>v
>>104884979Just listen to a lot of harmony stuff. I did a cover of Pet Sounds and other Beach Boys stuff over the years which helped. The parts just came out, I didn't write them down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T1bkFbeEdg>>104885172>>104895627Thenks
>>104898250I like it. Wonder what melody you have planned.
>>104898250another lil tunehttps://vocaroo.com/12wL6Sjm0Vel
>>104877447overall its fine. lyrics maybe a bit stilted and awkward, as well as the vocal performance, but this isn't a studio sesh so its forgivable. I like the riff, but I ended up getting a bit bored after the first refrain. its not by any means a 'bad' song however.>>104877612the first track starts okay, but the lack direction in it is very palpable. it's got a bit of a mark kozelek feel, but not in a good way. the loop really gets to me after a while. the solo at 2:25ish is just annoying due to the mixing. i would change the chorus and perhaps give more of a power pop edge to the guitars in the b section to have more of a feeling of movie somewhere. this reminds me of a demo to a driftless pony club song.the second song starts stronger, but the mixing again is very strange. imo the drums should be more present, and the effect on the vocals should be dialed back. i think the bass would sound better if it was just a deep chugging, and usually its good practice to mono the bass. a good thing about this track is it clearly has more actual direction and form over the previous. really the mixing is the main thing holding this back, its just strange. of course thats my opinion.1/?
>>104882127step 1. fix the fucking timing. many times the vocals and guitar are out of sync with the drums, guitar falls out of sync, and it just sounds amateur.step 2. fix the mix, specifically how the vocals are so far forward and loud, whilst the actual instruments are lacking and almost sound like they're raw and acoustic compared to the plate reverb spacey vocals.besides that very nice harmonies, very period. nicely done.>>104882565the guitar intro sounds fine, but when we actually get to the A section, the mix falls apart here. the bass has too much room noise, and the noise gate turns on and off and random intervals, almost like you're chopping up the bass part. besides that I get the vibe, and its sounds fine. work on that and you'll be able to get a lot of it. also, speaking of vibes, find a way to include a vibraphone for peak lounge sound.2/2
>>104898578>https://vocaroo.com/12wL6Sjm0Velthis is pretty good
>>104898652>almost sound like they're raw and acousticThey kinda were lol. I was just miming the bass with my voice, didn't record it yet. Not sure how finely I should match to a tempo, I'm trying but it loses a bit of its spontaneity and magic. I already made an A-Side to it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JACUAWgWEok
>>104897676https://soundcloud.com/averygoose-835648508/dont-talk-put-your-head-on-my-shoulder-guitar-only-coverI tried to cover Don't talk some time ago, figuring out the harmony was bloody hard
>>104898896I think there was a bootleg where you could hear him do each voice in sequence over itself, though I hadn't heard that in a long time. If you've heard the strings only it's basically the same thing but more complete. I like your version, it feels as if they put it in the place of Let's Get Away for Awhile instrumental.
>>104898945This is great>>104893374Thanks breh, I assume you mean verse riff, which is just power chords starting on 7th fret of E (B5) and then picking muted string/harmonic
Newest track I made, shit on me my body is ready. https://voca.ro/17FPjA5je9Bu
>>104898706unless you're literally metronomic, the human intricacies will still come thru i assure you. i suggest, if you REALLY dont want to record everything to a metronome, record the drums with the metronome, then record everything else to the drums.this A-side is beautiful, i assume you dont want much critique considering it seems to be already released lmao. it is nice though, almost like a song I would use in one of my screenplays. anyway, keep making music, you have a real nice voice and a knack for the harmonies of the doo-wop style.>>104898896now this is actually very reminiscent of something I would write on guitar. this is beautiful. despite a few playing flaws, which are very subtle, i enjoyed it thoroughly. almost wish i could take this and sing over it.
>>104899020I'd send the stems but I reset my PC a while back, thanks for the compliments mate!
here's three tunes im working on/worked on.>https://vocaroo.com/19hk88VyU5j4 (the death of zhang xueliang) this was just an improv thing i made. was gonna start a post-punk darkwave poopoopeepee bullshit project called zhang xueliang and the xian incident but never did.>https://vocaroo.com/1gEicULd9THL (summertime demo)just a cover/arrangement of a sex bob-omb (beck) song. made in under an hour yesterday>https://vocaroo.com/15HT7i3f5wzi (working title)i guess this is something im working the most on. dont know how to describe it. synthy, lofi, breakup song about a girl who cheated on her bf with me.btw im this >>104898596 anon
>>104899020Nah critique is alright, I couldn't find the effort to change the song anymore so that's what I put out.I just re-recorded the drums for the B-side now but it makes me realize the big problem is the guitar which is the most off and throws everything else off. I'll mix around when I find time.
almost done writing our third album, covid can go FUCK ITSELF in the ass, jesus christhttps://voca.ro/12zRTavpasHH
>>104898692thanks i made it a little longerhttps://vocaroo.com/1dPxR8mZKKbF>>104899153>https://vocaroo.com/15HT7i3f5wzidios mio
>>104899495simple and sweet. nice.>dios mioim sorry anon i didnt mean to offend
>>104899662>offensiveno way, i liked it. sounded kind of haunting desu
>>104899692thanks. it's pretty incomplete right now. i def will add a second verse and a proper refrain, and keep the 'it's hard' as an extended outro. its a very simple and by the books progression and bassline, but i tried to counter ear-fatigue by having it change keys everytime we enter a verse and chorus and it modulates 3 times in the outro.
>>104899495>https://vocaroo.com/1dPxR8mZKKbFlast update for the night. sounds shitty but its at the sketch phase https://vocaroo.com/1ehVmhgqvvRf
would appreciate if someone can give some feedback advice on the more recent stuff posted on this page:https://soundcloud.com/birdideasIn a bit of a rut.
Bump. Fuck you
>>104887900Two weeks and see how it goes. Throw in some psychedelics and uppers
https://voca.ro/1dSRUByUzqOcGuitar/bass riff alternating with synth/maybe vocal melody
nothing new that i've written, but check out this cover!i really like this band and the singer's voice which i tried to emulate herehttps://voca.ro/112hNOP44V4a
https://vocaroo.com/1fPY6yyoXV9nmade this today. Singing is shit, feel like a retard recording music like this. I have a hard time making recordings cohesive with my process. I think it turned out alright altogether.
>>104904864Vidya bass. Even had some ff at the end kek
>>104904864https://voca.ro/1dSRUByUzqOcits really murky but i like that throwback melody youre doing. could be used in an advertisement especially right now that retro shit is big with the kids--i'm thinking some company like Twitch / Doordash. One of those straight-to-streaming-platform ads.>>104904975>https://voca.ro/112hNOP44V4aporno digiornowhy the subway is porno?(nice voice, throw in another instrument so the guitar pattern doesnt feel so repetitive)>>104906751>https://vocaroo.com/1fPY6yyoXV9nare you recording these vocals around other people? it sounds well put together.>>104906353>>104901310>>104902725>Bump. Fuck youyou should respond to posts instead of doing this. f U
>>104902737Listening to "frozen". I could totally see this having mainstream appeal. As a whole, it's not something that I'm personally into, but I like your production>feedbackLot of mixing work needs to be done. I suck at mixing myself so I can't help you there, but that's what I feel they need. Composition and all that other stuff sound great to me.
>>104900353If you made an emo indie album this would be a good slow track. >>104907570>are you recording these vocals around other people? it sounds well put together.No. idk what you mean, I don’t really know how to mix vocals too much, use presets or do whatever to them.
>>104908247>No. idk what you meanshit i never finished my point there, got distracted. i meant that the vocals are full of feeling, and often it's kind of embarrassing (at least for me) to record things like that living with other people. I'd like to though.
>>104908264Oh yeah I know what you mean. I hate it too, feel like a fool. I just try to tell myself at least I’m expressing myself even if it makes me cringe.
>>104902737your accompaniments never change with the verse