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Franck Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpdK_0upS0U

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFh

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Wagner
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cE1BDGjQjhE
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>>104131966
that ain't wagner
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Asking again: What is the best motif/melody in history?
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>>104132165
the sound of my balls slapping against your ass
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>>104132165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCtA-Y7n6Ck
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>>104132165
bae5 ofc
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>>104132165
mozart laudate dominum
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>>104132165
Reposting what another anon said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzR1B8kwGAU
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>>104132165
Durch Zärtlichkeit Und Cchmeicheln
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>>104132377
Schmeicheln
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>>104132165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ6W-0NVGkw
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Schumann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJ30hiPPE8
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The 200 year old techniques are impossible to out date. The greatest works 1700-1900 were written as much for the year 3159 as they were for 2021 as they were for their respective year of composition. There were many temporary fads in the western music cannon, but haydn and Mozart were the first to put their aesthetic truly beyond what was merely popular at the time, and catapult their art into timelessness.

The composers that we don’t remember today, they were just doing what was popular at the time. The composers we do remember are the ones who did what was right.

The current fad of making ‘interesting’ ‘influential’ pieces will be largely forgotten within a century. It’s just a fad.
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>>104133171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAwD0pLA8Pk
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>tfw forgot schumann's birthday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUaw4eiK5mM
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Dallapiccola
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ASQhQUAgu50
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All music after the 17th century is trash
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All music after the Neolithic Revolution is trash
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pleb: lute music transcribed to guitar
patrician: orchestral music transcribed to piano
king: any bach piece transcribed to analog synthesizer
god: opera transcribed to wind ensemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JssAGnq0nAk
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All music is shit.
Nine months ago, I was walking along a road and at the roadside, there were a few conifers, planted right next to each other, creating a dense barrier. It was a windy day. The sound the wind made when it hit those trees, this particular, well-tempered noise, it can only be described as a religious experience. Truly sublime. It stopped me dead in my tracks. I had the privilege to listen to it for half an hour before I had to get moving again.
Now, up until that day, I always thougt that Josquin Desprez or Orlande de Lassus were the closest semblance of what might be called "God's voice on earth". Not anymore. That half hour of divine, fractal noise of streams of wind, thousandfoldly bifurcated between the trees' needles, profanized those composers for me. For good. To say nothing about the rest of all musicians.
A few days ago, I segmented music into "art music" and "entertainment music". Not anymore. Art is entertainment. At the very best, it can point, like an index finger, to the divine and open our eyes and ears and soul to it. The noise of the wind hitting these conifers that day, however, WAS the divine itself. Never have I derived such deep satisfaction, found such profound and existential solace than I did that day next to those trees.
I stopped listening to music. I shall meet the divine on these rare occasions in nature. Listening to consumerist music - and ALL music is consumerist! - will not fill my cup anymore. If anything, it can only remind me of the cup's existence.
I hope, for all of you, that one day, just like me, you also will have an opportunity to discard this earthly, profane dirt called music. I so much wish it for you.
I will repost this every day from now on.
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>>104135841
fuck off
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>>104133171
based pasta
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>>104135841
How do I become this high IQ with such perfect command of the English language?
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>>104132165
Swan theme from Sibelius 5.
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Threadly reminder that opera was not meant to be listened to and if you listen to it, you are beyond cringe. Like, levels of cringe that haven't even been quantified yet.
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>>104131947
I've finally written enough decent pieces to attract the attention of musicians who like my music enough to play it and present it to the public.

Here is a page from the first piece of mine to be played in public. Besides the violinist, I dedicate it to you /classical/, for endlessly telling me that I'm shit so that I can get better eventually.
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>>104136381
dude, stop baiting
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>>104136460
I'm not even remotely baiting. It's cringe. It's like reading the screenplay to a movie instead of watching the movie.
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>>104136516
And yet reading the score of a piece instead of listening to it is kind of based.
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>>104136516
no you're just gay some of us like music and you can't stop us
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>>104136455
>that piano part
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Is there any sheet music in the sticky? Pianofag btw.
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>>104136698
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEwwDz_i9Yw
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>>104131947
If it ain’t Scriabin, then I don’t give a fuck.
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>>104136837
do you even know how to read music anon?
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>>104137538
yes
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>>104137538
no
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>>104136320
get buck broken
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>>104136455
where in public
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>>104139122
Padova, Italy
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>>104136358
absolutely based
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please dont hate on vivaldi
his music is nice
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>>104137538
maybe
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>>104131947
Question: which is better, all classical music written between 1800 and 1820, or all classical music written between 2000 and 2020?
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>>104131947

"Everything is political, Everything is Propaganda"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbfa86bTD34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHn0gUAAado

?
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>>104140312
Beethoven's 6th is very political
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>>104133171
cringe pasta
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For the past few months I've been finding tons of lovely songs to play, here's one if you want to take a whack at it.
>>104136907

https://sheet.host/sheet/VZ6vKx
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>>104140312
promoting nature is rejecting urbanization
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Purcell was the greatest of the Anglo composers and easily ranks with Lully, Handel, Bach, and the rest of them; although he had excellent predecessors (Dowland, Byrd, Morley, etc.), to my mind he had no singularly good successors until perhaps Edward Elgar (with the exception of Thomas Arne, William Boyce, William Crotch, William Sterndale Bennett and, I'd argue, the honourable mention of Arthur Sullivan). Why do you think this is? (I'm not counting Handel and Haydn as Anglo composers kek)

Btw, I'd recommend the following video if you want to get into Purcell:
>https://youtu.be/NVZ0RW6Y6N4
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>>104140312
>>104140811
>>104141129
Correct.
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I'm composing a strings concerto, rate what I've done so far
https://vocaroo.com/1n03oV9iGISD
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>>104132165
Selig, wie die Sonne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQizi3-pINo
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>>104140120
That’s not even a question, no sane person would choose the latter.
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The most beautiful piano trio movement Haydn has ever written : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y77X6cqabzo
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Does anyone know of a mattaus passione recording that takes the recitavos similar to that of Phillipe H. (Fast/Musical/non-Dialogic in nature) and the Arias and Chorales similar to that of Klemperer or Richter (slow and intricate)? Thanks
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People call Die Meistersinger the Bach opera, and although I like the name, is it really fitting?

The main reason it's called that is that, more than being set in Nuremberg and being a testament to German art history, it utilises traditional musical forms such as the counterpoint in the overture. But what else is really similar to Bach in it? Does anyone know? I can only think of the use of organ/church music in the very first scene.

Meistersinger seems like the least studied opera of Wagner's because it's one of the least groundbreaking, and I think this is a negative.
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>>104143701
>recitavos similar to that of Phillipe H. (Fast/Musical/non-Dialogic in nature)
but why, it dimishes the dramatic effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrayWqANOdY
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>>104140120
I mean is there even 1 (one) good classical composition from 2000-2020?
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>>104144351
There are many (but no, I won't post them).
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What are your favorite one-act operas? Mine is Bluebeard's Castle by Bartók
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>>104144351
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQjPUb-X_oE
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>>104144128
Wagner and Bach (and their extensions in the form of music) couldn't be further apart. While Meistersinger, in typical 19th-century nationalistic style, celebrates German culture, Bach is much more universal and composed in a time when there was no such thing as a one German identity. He also had no business composing in a form of music where his love for God couldn't permeate the music (opera). I don't know why this is even a debate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yDX87VwPKM
Post a better cantata challenge
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>>104145217
>Gardiner
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>>104145217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTtRBeOnD5M
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>>104145276
he's a vocal music God listen to his Mozart seraglio and his live c minor mass which is one of the best I've found. also he has one of the best beethoven 9th finales even though the rest of the movements are just OK. his bach is great too (vocal stuff specifically) he just has a magic ability to make vocalists do the most satisfying possible pronunciations and inflections of the words possible.
on the other hand, DO NOT listen to his mozart symphonies or his zauberflote overture, it is terrifyingly bad.
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>>104144336
I understand the point of the recitavos however I want to listen to a recording that focuses purely on the musical aspects. I mean if you sit down with a score and listen to an hour of richter or klemperers recordings of mattaus you too would probably be bored when the recitavos played unless you were focusing on the lyric.

https://youtu.be/uhC-hvmvb-k
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>>104145484
Meant to say of an hour of richter or klemperers recordings a day.
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>>104144665
Ariadne, Daphne and Capriccio. I love Richard Strauss.
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>>104141154
Byrd is easily the greatest though.
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>>104145484
just skip the recitatives then
well there's a matthew passion in rutracker (biller 2013), try that one
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>>104145787
Ill listen to said recording, thx.
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>>104144852
How can you be this retarded?
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BACH RICERCAR A 6
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>>104146090
Not an argument.
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>>104146145
What's the best recording of the Musical Offering?
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Post guitar concertos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JfSSRtXvvw
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>>104146158
To say opera is incapable of being Christian is just stupid, if Shakespeare can be Christian then so can opera. I could understand a claim that tragedy/drama is pagan by nature, but you don't even say that, you're just saying the dullness of a cow "it can't be Christian!". Everything you say in your post is just wrong, like how is Wagner "less universal" than Bach? Even if you could say there's nothing German about Bach, it's still not related to what I was saying, which is that Meistersinger has been called "the Bach opera" by many because of how it relates to and uses traditional German musical forms, such as Bach used.
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>>104145329
His Mozart symphonies are just so boring
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>>104145329
he should stick to baroque
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>>104146958
I meant Wagner prescribes to a less universal concept than Bach. Nationalism is less universal than God. Are you fucking retarded or something? And calling it "the Bach opera" is ridiculous, and neither did Bach use "traditional German musical forms", he used just as many if not more Italian and French forms as well. Fuck you.
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great another pointless argument about wagner
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>>104147255
>Nationalism is less universal than God
Not true
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why is there never mendelssohn in these?
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>>104147666
Some of his chamber works and organ fugues were posted last thread I think.
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>>104147666
I think a lot of people just haven't got around to listening to him. for a while i've had a recording of his 3 piano quartets and I love the first but could never get into the other two
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>>104147691
oh i'll have to take a look
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>>104147666
the ghost of wagner haunts these threads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsPyDx-wsQ
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>>104147666
mendelssohn is an entirely disposable composer
if all of his compositions were lost tomorrow, no one would miss them
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>>104147908
Cringe
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>>104147666
HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>Jew poster is literally satan
HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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David Diamond should be a porn name not a composer name.
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>>104147908
Are you fucking kiddding me? Mendelssohn is one of the most delightful composers
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there is nothing of value beyond mozart
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>>104145542
The Baroque era and Early Classical is easily the best era for music and of the renaissance Byrd isn't even better than Dowland.
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>>104148374
this is even worse than anti-mozart contrarians
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Bach is great and all, been a lot of greats, but can it even be disputed that Palestrina was the greatest writer for the voice?
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>>104148532
that would be mozart
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i cant believe that bach is still releasing new stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_484a5cuyh4
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>>104147349
Only if you're fucking retarded, yeah
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>>104148730
takes one to know one
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>>104147908
Cringe. He has some fantastic and very underrated pieces, the 3rd symphony is particularly based.
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>>104148532
>>104148598
*blocks your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yEZwpANUO0
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What to learn after the beginner counterpoint stuff, ?
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>>104148598
It would actually be Wagner, who perfected the voice in drama, taking from Palestrina, Bach, Mozart and Beethoven.
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>>104148887
intermediate counterpoint stuff
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>>104148887
What is “beginner counterpoint stuff”?
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>>104148811
https://youtu.be/x2O5KG4uQu8?t=6582
shut
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>>104144665
salome
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>>104148598
Yes
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How the fuck do I get to enjoy Webern
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>>104148920
you cant perfect something thats already perfect (mozart)
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I kinda like it
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>>104149261
INFLUENCED BY MOZART!!
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>>104149084
How did Wagner literally kill opera? Like I get he was groundbreaking and basically put all of his artistic ingenuity into his operas, but really no one else felt like trying to write an opera afterwards?

I really don't understand it.
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>>104149392
>What is Britten Stravinsky Puccini and Berg
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>>104149408
All terrible
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>>104142730
>>104144351

Since this is the response, as any reasonable person would expect, then I have another question for you.

If someone found himself with the urge to compose, and for whatever reason was forced to choose between writing in the style of the year 1810 or 2010, which should be choose if his goal was to write the best music he can?

Another (separate) question: if Mendelssohn was deleted from history, and was instead born at the turn of the century, and thus began writing his entire body of works today, would he be criticized for writing in an outdated style? Would he be discouraged by people telling him to stop writing as if it were the year 1825?
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>>104149423
Not the point
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>>104149012
Fux shit, the 1 2 3 4 species know what I mean?
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>>104149428
Sneed's Feed and Seed (formerly Chuck's Feed and Seed)
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>>104148931
thnx mate
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>>104149428
The world needs someone like that, someone writing in an unashamedly romantic style without the academic egotism that almost all modern classical carries with it. Something honest and from the heart, which embraces and pays tribute to what’s come before rather than cynically distancing itself from it.
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>>104149101
Listen to opus 6 and just enjoy the atmosphere and the timbres of the orchestra.
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>>104149392
Verdi literally wrote his greatest operas after the death of wagner
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>>104149750
Yeah but I mean, after Verdi and between him and Strauss.
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>>104149791
>after Verdi and between him and Strauss

That's kinda silly because Verdi's last opera is from 1893 and right around that time R. Strauss started writing operas. So what 'in between' are we talking about exactly?
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>>104149614
No, we don't need someone like this because there are already plenty of such composers and it's horrible. Just listen to the dross of Alma Deutscher or the whole kind of "new niceness" school, or actually the garbage that is contemporary film soundtracks.
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>>104149846
In between Verdi and Salome.

It's a GENERaL time you nog, specific works are irrelevant before the conceptualisation of the time.
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>>104149894
Film soundtracks are nothing like Mendelssohn.
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>>104149905
You're just full of shit. Opera was 'killed' because in a time period of 10 years between Falstaff and Salome there were no great operas? You just didn't really think things through, did ya?
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>>104149461
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>>104149982
worst post in a long while
impressive
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>>104149261
Christine Schafer is a massive cutie. Also, her French songs album is pretty amazing.
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>>104149975
No, YOU didn't really think this through.
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>>104149982
it appears we live in a sociey where someone here won't tell me how to learn counterpoint and instead uses it as oppurtunity to call me schizphrenic
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"Counterpoint" is a common psychosis among musicians centering on delusions about a man named Fux. The main symptoms are
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>>104150219
I literally have no clue what “ Fux shit, the 1 2 3 4 species know what I mean?” is supposed to mean, all you need to know to play counterpoint such as bach is basic understanding of voices and harmony, if you want to compose or improvise just learn partimento figured bass and roman numerals
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>>104150278
>Fux shit, the 1 2 3 4 species know what I mean
that's just exercices about writing counterpoint
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opera died because there was a world war and then it had to compete with the advent of mass culture
wagner only contributed insomuch that it became more intellectual musically, as opposed to mere dramatic entertainment with nice singing and thus appealed an even smaller audience
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don't mind me, just posting Beethoven's best piano concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp5ueaZ7CIw
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https://vocaroo.com/1cB2AgfAqJtg

I composed a Fugue for keyboard, do you like it ?
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>>104150436
>live restored

also the fifth is the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZSChh_VCR4
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>>104150364
Try handels book on figured bass, i checked out the fux book and it seems like the handel book can help expand
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>>104150512
>>also the fifth is the best
only if we pretend the 4th doesn't exist
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>>104149148
Mozart didn't have the benefit of Beethoven to learn from, though he was a dramatist at heart like Wagner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_xTxglcCQ
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>>104150501
no
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Missa Solemnis composing for voice is on Palestrina's level.
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>>104150589
Both suck, Palestrina ruined music
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For me it's Austro-Hungarian nationalist Arnold Schönberg
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>>104141479
Jumbled and all over the place but sounds like you have good smaller ideas which would be interesting to listen to if they were properly developed. I'd be pretty proud if I was you, you sound like an intermediate (midwit) musician.
>>104150501
Competent but boring; I honestly don't know how it would sound better (my idea of a fugue is mostly influenced by Bach and his work seems pretty hard to immitate, plus it's like saying "git gud". The form is too subtle for me to really say what makes it good.)

I am untrained in music so I can't really say much more. Hope my reviews served as a good representation of the average person's opinion I'm sorry if I was unhelpful.
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>>104149907
But they are often written in an "unashamedly romantic style"
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>>104150747
Romantic only in the loosest possible sense.
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>>104150586
why
>>104150694
thanks for the review
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>>104150087
she is the best Lulu too
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>>104150747
Yeah, by people of zero talent who write ONLY to be pleasing and not to be good.

I hate the “new niceness” school. I prefer pieces to be superficially pleasant (enough) but also rich with dramatic information.
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FUCK CONTEXT

This post was written by romanticism gang
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>>104150930
>adds poetic context to their symphonies
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Actually interesting (post-)minimalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lit_29CHR7k
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You will never make it as a pianist
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>>104150800
>why
first of all, you do it too rushed. Let the beginning melody go alone for a bit before you do the fugue shit(sorry , am retard hope you get what I am saying) and then also, gradually add more instruments. it's like you shown everything you got in the first second and we have nothing to look forward to which makes it boring and repetetive. also try to develope your melody better or add a diferent melody, your piece stays too close home. hope that makes sense. take this as a comparison. this is basically what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHMJFhJNycM
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>>104151120
and to add to that. classical music is like a journey. you have to take us on a interesting journey. but you do it more like, you catapult us to the top of the mountain and then we stay there for the rest and circlejerk
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>>104151159
>classical music is like a journey

kys
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>>104151182
have sex
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>>104151210
just did
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>>104151120
>>104151159
I see, thank you.
To be honest I don't really like it either, it was more an experiment with weird intervals than anything else
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>>104151248
your hand doesn't count
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>>104151182
it's more like a box of chocolate I would say
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>>104151270
does your mom count?
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>>104151296
no, your mom doesn't count either unless you are from alabama
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What is your favourite part of Der Ring des Nibelungen?

Mine would have to be Siegfried's meeting with the Rhinemaidens.

https://youtu.be/MPBxXaGnCgU?t=1008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUMdhTJ6zfk
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>>104151326
>anon cant read
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>>104151342
>anon can't lose his virginity
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>>104151332
Act 3 scene 2 of Gotterdammerung
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>>104151370
already did, now as i said kys
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2RUNNDWZI
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>>104151370
i never lose
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>>104151385
>already did
kek good joke
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>>104151418
>projecting this hard
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>>104151446
projecting this hard
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>>104151446
I accept your concession
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>>104151371
What particularly?
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>>104151490
>>104151499

please dont post your pics here
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musique inspirée, ce n'est plus un " enfant de 9 ans" qui compose cela. Non! rythme, mélodie, orchestration légère , parfaite, c'est déjà le Mozart perfectionniste, adulte, savant et surdoué.
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>>104151596
Where's this quote from ?
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>>104151511
Siegfried's telling of his childhood and death
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>>104151332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLMaEh95B8
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>>104151332
Probably the dawn love scene, there’s nothing else in opera as sweet
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>>104152008
It's also quite a psychologically brilliant scene, with the motifs from the Idyll and Brunnhile's coming to terms with her mortality.
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>>104151332
Alberich seething and cursing Wotan.
Wotan seething at Brunnhilde for disobedience.
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is there seriosuly only 4 species of counterpoint even after 200 years?
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>>104152202
Why do you like seething so much?
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>>104152919
I just like the crescendi Wagner wrote for these 2 scenes
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>>104153047
I don't really remember Alberich's curse having much of a crescendo, nothing comparable to the Walkure finale.

Tell me, what do you think of Alberich's seething in Siegfried, and Brunnhilde's seething in Gotterdammerung?
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>>104153328
Not him but Brunnhilde in GD is fucking terrifying. During her pre-marriage entrance with Gunther and the entrance of Siegfried’s body she has this really scary nothing-left-to-lose thing going on where she can and will do anything. It’s when she as a character is at her most interesting, compelling and powerful.
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Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh7Z45aRrnw
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>>104151094
pyw
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I'm trying to watch Wagner opera's on my projector but holy fuck is opera fucking gay. I have to watch it for an hour or two at a time at 3am like I'm fucking masturbating because I don't want my parents to think I'm some type of fag. I wish it was like the old days when opera was cool and everyone listened to it.
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>>104154430
>my parents
18+ website
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>>104154430
lmfao
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>>104154430
>but holy fuck is opera fucking gay.
That like, just society man.
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>>104154445
It's 2020 my man. Only boomers have houses
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>>104154445
What kinda country you live in where 18 yo are living by themselves
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>>104154445
wait, you can live by yourself at 18?
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>>104151332
Yeah same. Wonderful scene.
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>>104132165
Mahler Addagietto Symph 5
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>>104135841
dangerously based
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Did Chopin get his funeral march rhythm from any funeral march's before him? I can't find the same motif any earlier, but I can find it a lot after.
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>>104155009
the 2nd movement of Schubert string quartet 14 feels similar
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>>104151332
First part of Das Rheingold with the Rhinemaidens
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>>104155229
Brahms apparently found the Rhinemaidens ensemble very beautiful.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNnht2vDkEU

Vivaldi
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>>104155412
Good man his music still blows though
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>>104155616
booba
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>>104155795
you have to be in the right mood
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certainly one of Bach's greater pieces
https://youtu.be/kHgopovNR9k
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Brahms' piano concerto rules. there's nothing else like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQDCwNHbpVQ&list=PLe5JL7lnvlzA6iByzAhBUv3S9bDBKa7ua
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>>104156684
are zoomers so retarded that they need a fucking red line to follow the score?
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>>104156899
obsessed
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>>104156899
are you a sperg or what
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1PxXk8YR4U
new vivaldi score vid dropped
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>>104146476
The webern orchestration recorded by boulez
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>>104158662
shit take
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here's a salieri piece thats actually pretty good and not garbage like the rest of his compositions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEXFJPPWnhU
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>>104156749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx9cwplMV0U
favourite recordings?
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66 years ago, from June 10th to June 16th, Glenn Gould recorded the Goldberg Variations.
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>>104159157
Gilels the GOAT
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Beethoven's best symphonic movement is the 2nd movement of his 8th.
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Just gonna swoop in and save this thread by saying Mendelssohn’s octet is one of the best chamber works of the mid-Romantic era.
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Anyone got any tips for right handed jumps from a higher notes to lower notes? I can jump to the right, but from right to left is honestly so incredibly difficult for no reason.
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Recommend me some god tier string quartets.
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>>104162582
I should have said to lower chords, single notes and octave jumps are fine. But traveling from right to left chords are very difficult to hit fast compared to any other variation in either hand.
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>>104162592
Mozart 19
Schubert 14 & 15
Dvorak 12
Debussy
Grieg
Sibelius
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>>104162592
Haydn's prussian string quartets
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>>104162451
for me it's the second string quintet
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Who is the Polanski of Classical?
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>>104163636
John Cage
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Wagner sucks cock.
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>>104164217
and that's a good thing
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>>104155009
It's just the natural rhythm of a mourning procession. March rhythms have always existed.
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>>104164441
Ok chud
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What's this instrument called?
It sounds like a harpsichord is being played so I assume it's that but for some reason the sound isn't in sync with this player unless i'm retarded
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>>104155009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaHmbNI2Bgk
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Khachaturian's piano concerto is so damn good!
https://youtu.be/CcIpUW_1Wsk

Can you recommend me something similar?
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>>104162582
>>104162605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDtX4LO7NZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNcZNKRbiho
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>>104165006
are you the same guy that posted it last thread?
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>>104164849
you're the chud boyo
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>>104165042
Thanks
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>>104152256
only masons are allowed knowledge about the higher species
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>>104165149
Yes that's me. Are you the one that recommended Khrennikov's 2nd? I quite enjoyed that concerto.
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>>104165221
Take your meds schizo
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>>104165475
some youtube comment said he got "inspiration" for it from banned roslavets pieces he had access to as chairman of the composers union lel
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>>104165499
you ok buddy?
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>>104165584
Back at ya chud
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>>104156899
I think I remembered a comment from the youtuber smalin saying that his videos were helpful in some universities or schools where student had trouble following score and music at the same time.
I don't remember which video it was though.
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what does /classical/ think of iggy stravo?
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>>104166572
Moronic, but I enjoy his compositions.
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>>104166572
Boring ans not enjoyable
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>>104166572
Overrated
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>>104133171
neutral pasta
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>>104166572
who?
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>>104156596
>>104156620
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Always thought of her as a mediocre Debussy wannabe, but this is pretty good to be honest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuC_Mt0rwpE
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>>104166929
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>>104164876
continuo organ
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>>104166993
She was pretty good. One of those composers I wish had lived longer
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>>104167069
actually, positive organ
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>>104166929
Kekked.
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>>104166572
Inferior.
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>>104166572
He was pretty good to be honest, perhaps the best composer of the 20th century. His symphonies are quite underrated, they're just as good as his most famous ballets. The Symphony of Psalms in special is a beautiful, chilly work with amazing vocal writing. And in some of his later works he even made 12-tone rows sound fun.
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>>104167111
ok but wagner is not from the same period at all, it feels wrong to me to compare composers out of their historical context, although that may be argued against. but in my view composers are still the product of their time and should be compared to their contemporaries.
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>>104166929
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SIMP
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>>104167263
Everyone living past Christ is in the same period
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>>104167813
there's pre- and post-rapture
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I wrote a passacaglia, am I the next Bach ?
https://vocaroo.com/1kBy48rTxv9k
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>>104168221
Only if you improve your counterpoint. Start by getting rid of the fourths with respect to the bass. Try doing that and repost.
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>>104168221
How’d you learn comp?
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Josquin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7aqhihkbw
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Showpan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4xQ4votcY
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>>104162592
shostakovich
beethoven
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>>104162592
Late mozart, late beethoven, Bartok, & bach.
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No Bach, No Beethoven, No Brahms.
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I like the idea of minimalism but I fucking hate Phillip Glass, any recs?
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>>104169612
Alexander Stone
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>>104169612
Reich
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>>104169612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lit_29CHR7k
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>>104169612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmyx8WEmnvU
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>>104169612
John Adams
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>>104169612
MOZART
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>>104169612
Bruckner
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Why are Beethoven's even-numbered symphonies so overlooked?
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wangner sucks
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>>104169991
6 isn't because it rules
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>>104169991
I think the appreciation towards them is much better than it used to be, actually.
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>>104169991
but they aren't
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>>104168626
not like the guy you quoted, hopefuly
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>>104170176
>quoted
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>>104170161
Like >>104170123 things are better now but if you listen to older cycles conductors clearly didn't give a fuck about 2, 4 and 8 in special. Also these works were rarely programmed. More recently people finally realized how good they are, specially 8
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>>104169612
Maybe try sacred/spiritual/whatever it's called minimalism, like Arvo Part?
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Babbitt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkoBD0XGTdo
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what a cool prelude, I like the first theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRrwlKfK6Dg
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Smetana
https://youtu.be/l6kqu2mk-Kw
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>>104137538
can you repeat the question?
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music doesn't get better than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl31xRgId74
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>>104170658
>music doesn't get better than this
Wrong

https://youtu.be/eKrbmvg-tOE
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>>104170545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOhFlN6rhgM
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>>104169612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHRdz2YOGBw
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New
>>104170765
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>>104169653
Kek
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test



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