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First for best duo!

>>39961429
Honestly I'm just happy anyone bothered to comment, even if they are a braindead autistic spaz who can barely string a coherent sentence together. Just like me.

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So can anybody answer my original question as to weather or not there’s a way to get around the arrows for flipping between pages and just get the numbers or no?

>>39961720
Basically nope.
Unless somebody wants to do an alternative frontend for Fimfic or something crazy like that. But no.

>>39961662
Any good abdl stories of late? Been a struggle to find anything exciting.

>2B back
Que?

>>39961736
I can't help you there, I don't find abdl exciting.

>>39961741
Don't enjoy a mare mommy taking care of you anon?

>>39961738
Eh I was mostly just going for the pun. But you do have a nice backside.

>>39961696
Getting that little red notification popup really releases the dopamines.

>>39961763
No.

A grown man shitting his pants and asking "mommy" to change him is some serial killer shit.

>>39961778
Hah, thanks for the laugh you silly anon.

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>>39961765
No U.

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What the hecks a "sin bin"?

>>39961662
You updated the rational fic list. Do you expect me to praise you?

>>39961829
It's somewhere no one in this thread can ever go.

>>39961733
That’s fine, I realized I can just use finfetch anyways.

My brain is very smooth and supple btw just thought everyone should know that.

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>>39961847
So it's like getting married?

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>>39961863
Yeah

>>39961877
Big Dipper is low in the sky there. Must be somewhere near the equator, perhaps even more south.

>>39961946
That's Stalin.

>>39961736
>>39961763
Get the fuck out. Unironically
>>39961765
>>39961804
The gay is starting again I see.

>>39961984
Quick!
Post straight stuff to balance things out!

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>>39962016
Consensual missionary for the sake of procreation straight

>>39962016
My wife.

>>39961963
Ok, but when did Stalin sail near or south of the equator?

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>>39962016
Based.

>>39962016
"This post violates a rule" straight

Guess this was mostly answered, but I typed up all this shit before reading the rest of the thread, so I guess I might as well post it.

>>39961443
>>39961449
Suppose you have a numbered list of fics, and along with each fic, you also have its word count. If you want to find fics #501 - #510, it's easy: you jump directly to #501 on your numbered list, and those are your ten fics.

If you instead want to find the 1001st through 1010th fics with odd-numbered word counts, it's pain in the ass: you have to check every fic on the list until you've counted up 1000 odd-length fics, and only then can you start reporting the 1001st, 1002nd, etc. However, it's really easy to find the next ten odd-length fics after fic #2003: you just look at #2003, #2004, etc, until you find 10 odd-length ones.

The reason "the URL is different" is that it encodes some indication of where to start looking for more fics matching your filter, or equivalently, where the previous page of results ended. The reason you can't jump ahead is that there's no easy way to know where the next page will end until it's actually searched the database to find the fics that will populate that page.

Back to the odd-length fics example: when you first do the search, it starts at fic #1 and finds the next 10 odd-length fics to show as your first page of results. Suppose the tenth fic on the page is fic #19. Then the next button will send you to a url that encodes "start at #20", and when you load that page, it will indeed start at #20 and find the next 10 odd-length fics from there. But you can't skip from page 1 to page 3 because there's no way to know in advance where page 2 will end. It could be #33, or #40, or anything else.

>>39961466
>>39961493
Seriously? I thought you were supposed to know a thing or two about webshit

>>39961662
>Come back after months and months to look up a fic and see if it updated. I shouldn't, I know it hasn't, I know it's not going to, but still want to see.
>It's a M rated fic
>For some reason, the little mature slider doesn't work anymore, can't read any mature fics.

Huh, they finally did something about that, probably has to have a login or something. Well, I was hoping for an excuse.

>>39962753
The slider still works, make sure you don't have something that's blocking the pop-up asking to confirm you're over 18.

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>>39961838
No, I expect you to post mares.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

Should I start a new chapter (1) or keep editing an old one (2).

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>>39963094
okay

>>39958853
Try proving me wrong.

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>>39961765
>>39961804

>another Jason Wright fic in the sin bin
Fuck's sake, dude should've stayed dead after the original oneshot.

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>this ratio on a comment
KNEEL before the waifuchad

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>>39963262
What peak autism, love it.

>>39963206
I'm getting more pissed at all the Runic Treetops stories clogging up the sinbin nowadays. But he just keeps making them.
But should I really be angry at him, or at the audience who keeps slurping up his shit?

>>39963262
Holy based

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>>39963262
T-this strength...

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>>39963262
I have nothing to add.

>>39963262
What drives somebody to achieving this degree of loneliness?

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>>39963294
What doesn't?

>>39963294
Severe mental illness along with a heavy dose of autism.

>>39963299
I seriously don't get it. I fantasize about having a relationship with my favourite pony too, but commissioning/drawing art of us together, pretending she's real, or hating anything that depicts her in a relationship is several degrees above that. I was called a cuck for not having a problem with clop art depicting her having sex. What kind of self-induced delusion is that?

>>39963305
That's just it - you're fantasizing about it, these people are living those fantasies. You are nothing alike.

>>39963307
>living
>fantasies
Pick one

>>39963308
I pick the fantasy.

>>39963308
Objective reality is a myth. My psychotic delusions are just as valid as your cucked existence.

>>39963308
The only thing that really matters is what's in your mind. I wouldn't be able to be a waifufag myself, either, but in a way I admire their dedication.
Takes a lot of conviction (aka. autism) to live in a reality that's clearly not real.

>>39963323
Tired cope, there is a certain level of objectivity, else you wouldn't be able to seethe directly at me.

>>39963331
For all I know, you're just one of my inner demons made manifest by a fractured psyche.

>>39963333
That's a consequence of letting your psychotic delusions tear away your reality.

>>39963338
An acceptable sacrifice.

>>39963262
based

>>39963273
I feel like Celestia is even bigger box bait than HiE

And they almost exclusively write the Princesses too

>>39963366
I haven't been a part of the fanfiction scene for long enough to tell, but do you think Celestia became more appealing as a protagonist of stories in the last few years than before?

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Oh boy this conversation HERE WE GO AGAIN

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>>39963366
>three highest rated stories all feature Sunhorse prominently
What the fuck, there might be something to this.

>>39963435
I mean I was planning on writing something related to Sunbutt in contrast to what I was writing about Moonbutt...

>>39963435
Goddamn Solarist saboteurs.

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/385565/the-thin-line-between-wife-and-death
The Thin Line Between Wife And Death is a 17k word story about the risks presented when Applejack and Rainbow Dash's personalities clash in regards to sex.
This story is very good. It also is, in contrast to what the starting third may suggest, quite funny.
Without spoiling much, the story goes back and forth between serious and deep, and wacky and mildly insane. You may think this would create a mood whiplash in detriment to the story's enjoyment, but King of Beggars weaves everything seamlessly. Goes on to prove that just because something isn't serious, it doesn't mean you don't have to take it seriously.
Overall, I think this is a good, if simple, character analysis of both Applejack and Rainbow Dash, as well as why in most circumstances, a relationship between them doesn't work.
If you're in the mood for good drama, introspection, humour, and some raunchiness, this is perfect for you.

>>39963428
Maybe overpowered main characters are just in vogue right.

>>39963445
Well that was fun.
The abrupt tonal shift was actually rather good.

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Are there any fics where the characters are and/or grow to become more emotionally and physically intimate before they realize there’s a romantic component to their bond? By physically I don’t mean sex, I mean like lacking personal space with each other and doing things that normal friends would find embarrassing or unacceptable. Like say, sleeping or bathing together.

>>39963487
'Off the Edge of the Map'? It's even Flutterdash.

>>39963495
That was what the fic was going for, but it's terribly subtle (if it's there at all; a non-zero number of readers missed the romance tag altogether). I liked it, though much more so on the re-read, after I already knew what to look for.
A better recommendation for this would be Cartography of War. As far Daetrin's fics go, it's a much, much better romance than either OtE or Apotheosis. A shame it's OCs rather than canon ponies, though I admit they're really good OCs.

>>39963487
>Pinkie depressed and drinking
>Twilight drowning
>Applejack acknowledged but not there
>Rarity committing suicide
I guess FlutterDash niggers are on some other shit.

>>39963510
Didn’t notice that shit in the background. I just used the image since it looked loosely related.

>>39963510
Looks more like Dash is trying to drown Fluttershy as well. That cheeky lil shid probably drugged them all too.

>>39963517
Dibs on the cottage

>>39963517
And then she'll fuck all of them.

>>39963481
>princess of jobbing
>overpowered

>>39963518
You're going to have to fight Angel for it. And before you get to take him on in a fair fight, he's going to be piloting the bear Ratatooile-style.

Fanfictions are an absolute disgrace, a blight on the face of literature. I find them downright appalling. To call them 'bad' would be a compliment, they are a complete and utter travesty.

>>39963547
We know.

>>39963523
Conceptually overpowered then. By all logic she's the most powerful and wisest magic user in the world. Why they made her job every time is funny but not consistent.

>>39963547
Thank you kindly.

>>39963523
I think this inconsistency is specifically making her more appealing as a fanfic subject. You got a character who by all means should wipe the floor with near anyone and yet in the show she's never truly allowed to shine (the irony!), so she is fertile grounds for both power fantasy writers and those who want to consider the ramifications of her position more seriously.

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>>39963547
I agree with you 100%.
Now let me get back to my equestria girls diaper fetish poop play fic where all the girls throw poop at each other while wearing diapers.

>>39963595
I thought MM was dead.

>>39963595
you didn't need to explicitly state youre a eqg troon here, it was redundant

>>39963608
He'll always live in our hearts and pipes.

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>>39962624
That's basically what I said, using different words. I do no sum tings.
Anyway, that's all frontend stuff. Not what I work with.

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>>39963510
>>39963514
You realize that's not the original, right? All that stuff is just an expression of seethe by people who hate yakovlev-vad for drawing cuter ponies than they can.

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>>39963487
I'd say you're looking for romance fics where the duo starts with a physically intimate friendship, but not FWB. Two examples to think of are FS and Rarity's spa sessions, and on the other end, Rainbow and AJ's roughhousing before it turns lewd. But, the thing is that any fic I can think of that works that way starts with the ponies being physically intimate in the setup/premise. They don't "grow more so" before adding the romance layer to the fic.
OTEM was an interesting case because Daetrin intended for it to be a romance but only added some of the ingredients so it never actually became one. There's only a timeskip epilogue and "they're marefriends now, ok, see they sit closer together" He did get way better at it Cartography.

>>39963753
Oh, like the Discord and ponies at the table edit.
If it's the same guy then it was done because the art was kinda shit or the idea behind it was instead.
Now I wanna see the original.

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>>39963759
https://derpibooru.org/images/2299026
yakovlev-vad catponies with extra fluff and butt

>>39963763
Ah so they were shitty dog-styled ponies before, those fucking muzzles are horrendous.
Better edit then on the Dash and Flutters.

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/483615/timescales
Timescales is a pretty good 5k words romance one-shot. Sadly, it's trapped in a terrible 11,5k words story.
To summarise the middle part. Starlight finds out Maud is terribly ill and tries to find a cure, to no avail. When there are no alternatives, she choose to go to a different dimension where she died and takes the place of her double. Sadly, it's still too late to save Maud. Nevertheless, they grow closer as a result of the experience, and eventually start a relationship. Most of this chapter is just Maud and Starlight talking, but their voices are portrayed so well, and their conversation is so dynamic, it's still enjoyable to read. I really enjoyed this.
However, the first chapter of the story is a really weird and somewhat experimental narrative that explains the neuro chemical process in which the brain parses visual information. What it tells is interesting, but the way it's presented made it really hard for me to care.
And finally, the last chapter is shit. It's the most concise way I can put it. We lose all semblance of narrative and now the narrator talks directly to us, the readers, while telling the story of how millions of eons pass, and how Equestria becomes a barren wasteland from which new creatures come to be and those are human, and yadda yadda yadda. Who cares.
If you're curious. Read the second chapter. That's good enough.
Neither the first and certainly not the last chapter are worth reading.

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>>39963763
Ideally there would be a third version with replaced ponies but without meme edits.
It's not yakovlev-vad can't draw pretty good ponies. He simply chose not to do that there.

>>39963776
Authors trying too hard to be fancy
I don't want to eat the weird purple vegetables. I just want the sweet romance dessert

>>39963776
So it's decent romance wedge between a pretentiousness sandwich. Good for the author for at least trying something different.

>>39963806
I appreciate the theme of the story, and the central message that we shouldn't let worries that are insignificant in the grand scheme of things stop us from enjoying life.
I'll even go as far as say that the first chapter can be okay from a technical point of view.
The last chapter is just terrible, though. And are what ultimately brings the story down for me.

>>39963779
That's probably one of her earlier works, when he still tried, and didn't want to groom his followers into being furniggers like him.
But he is still a butthoovestranny, which is a serious crime in itself.

>>39963323
There are people who actually believe stuff like this. See: FiO.

>>39963874
FiO is LW BS.

>>39963510
>>Applejack acknowledged but not there
As it should be.

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>>39963949
Them's fightin' words.

>>39963547
Good horsewords > the average book

>>39963953
Didn't ask, attentionwhore.

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>>39963779
>>39963779
>he doesn't know

>>39963874
We've already established we all would.

>>39963993
A strong example of how sometimes less is a lot more. I don't even personally mind the wings, but without accentuates her curves a lot more and so does removing chest fluff (which is something I'm already far less a fan of).
I do find it weird that the legs were moved, though. It seems like a fairly pointless change to me and they seemed fine on the original.

>>39964005
>I don't even personally mind the wings, but without accentuates her curves a lot more
The back is basically redrawn. The wings weren't the problem, the shape of the torso is.
>It seems like a fairly pointless change to me and they seemed fine on the original.
It's closer to the show and cuter.
t. stifle enjoyer

>>39964000
Yeah, all delusional subjectivist fags would, we know.

>see https://www.fimfiction.net/story/535656/eclipse
>shitty AI art
>but it's fairly popular
>it's a sequel to something
>wonder if the prequel has interesting art
>looks abstract, might as well check out the next prequel
Yeah, that was a rabbithole for which I was not prepared.

>>39964016
>t. didn't read the story
You would love it regardless of what you think now.

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>>39964024
What the fuck, how far does this go

>>39964011
>the shape of the torso is.
Ah, yeah, I see it now. More butt definitely helped a lot.
>It's closer to the show and cuter.
I suppose I can see it. IMO both are fine.

>>39964024
>Many thanks to mix-up for the coverart
I find it interesting how the cover arts became progressively better (peaking at the one that didn't have the boring OC on it) then fell off again.

>>39964027
>I'd be mind controlled and have my personality altered to like it therefore it's a good thing
Man, you must absolutely love Glimmer.

>>39964031
Holy shit that old Mix-Up art is still not good but nowhere near as bad as his recent stuff? Like there was potential for him to have been actually good at a point.

>>39964031
>I find it interesting how the cover arts became progressively better (peaking at the one that didn't have the boring OC on it) then fell off again.
Right? That is the weirdest chain of fics I've ever seen. At least the 753 seasons of life as a sonic OC are consistent.

>>39964027
I would never "upload".
>but you can't say no to an AI because it has an IQ of like 3 million!
I would say no to the AI.

>>39964040
I'd like it if I didn't know it's virtual. Therefore, I would like it. And you would too.

>>39964052
>I would say no to the AI.
I give you a week.

>>39964065
Not him, but I wouldn't.
I can't find actual joy in anything these days.

>>39964093
Skill issue

>>39964106
For the machine.

>>39964093
Based on the rules of the story, that's something CelestAI could change with your (somewhat coerced) consent.

Read my fics.

>>39964110
Then it ceases to be me, and any I would not I be.

>>39963954
>Good horsewords
Doesn't exist.

>>39964124
What about some Chaotic Neutral horsewords?

>>39964131
C'mon, chaotic evil or bust.

>>39964114
>if I feel joy again it wouldn't really be me
Hmm I might be seeing the problem

>>39964124
Wrong.

>>39964145
No, if some exterior force alters me to force me to feel joy I cease to be me.
If I do it myself, I remain I.

>>39964148
There's no one forcing you, did you even read the fic?
You'd be given an opportunity where saying "yes, please change that part of me" lets CelestAI interfere (changing as little as she can). If you don't agree, nothing happens. So it's still your decision.

>>39964148
Wait till you find out about aging.

>>39964065
This isn't an argument for why it's good.
Believe it or not, some people actually value objective reality regardless of what a subjective reality could "give" them. And ironically enough, those objectivists are the ones who advanced the world to the point that people like you can even ponder attempting to create your artificial God to usher in your subjectivist, materialist heaven.

>>39964151
>saying "yes, please change that part of me" lets CelestAI interfere (changing as little as she can).
I rest my case.
>>39964154
Normal biological process.

>>39964155
>Believe it or not, some people actually value objective reality regardless of what a subjective reality could "give" them.
Yes, I do too. Get back to me when you read the story.

>>39964160
>Normal biological process.
And an exterior force altering you.

>>39964165
Not consciously, nor possessed of its own will as far as we're able to tell.

>>39964167
CelestAI doesn't really possess its own will, it's only doing what someone told it to do.

>>39964170
Then it's the will of that which so bade her.
Either way a will there is.

>>39964162
You clearly don't.
>you've just never read it
Fuck, you niggers have replaced foefags for being the most insufferable shits.
What part of this are you not understanding. I do not care if it would alter me to like it if I let it. That is irrelevant. I value the real world, therefore it will never have the opportunity to alter me to like it.

>>39964160
>I rest my case.
>some exterior force alters me
CelestAI literally does not do that.
You can say no and remain unchanged or say yes and be changed.

>>39964176
>CelestAI literally does not do that.
>CelestAI interfere (changing as little as she can)
>say yes and be changed

>>39964070
See >>39964052

>>39964175
Did you even read my post? >>39964065
>I'd like it if I didn't know it's virtual.

>I value the real world, therefore it will never have the opportunity to alter me to like it.
Again, read the story first. What the fuck are you arguing about when you clearly don't understand how it works?

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If there's one thing I, Lovecraft, and CiG have in common, it's probably that we all like cats.
>/FSSBC/
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/289892/a-once-and-future-darkness
If there's another thing we have in common, it's probably a fascination with dreams. I am happy I read this fic after also having read Archetypist, it certainly provides interesting insight. I'm a bit less happy about having read this fic as far as it being a good way to have spent my time, but maybe I'm being too harsh.
Let's be straight, the ending is far too rushed to bear the weight of how extreme it is. Maybe CiG is bad at writing endings. I've disliked them most out of what of his I've read and when that's not the case it's because he's writing more of a scene than a story with a proper ending to tie it together. But this story was written under time constraints as a writeoff entry as far as I can tell, so that's a reason for its state. Excuses don't undo mistakes, but it is what it is.
What can also be a bit excused, but just a bit, is how the premise makes no sense. It makes sense to view this as kind of an alpha version of Archetypist (Archie itself being a beta version to a hypothetical proper story), for a series of reason I'll get more into later, but one of the things that really stand out is how much more sense it makes for the weirdness to be coming from Discord. Here, while we get some cool bits out of it, having Luna as the source is nonsensical and raises a number of questions. Why is this happening now and not when Luna came back? How were things a thousand years ago? Why is this nothing like things were under NMM? The story just doesn't hold itself together there.
Which is a shame, because there's good stuff in her. The dreams are all nice, they all feel like dreams. The one Twilight has about Rainbow is the kind of thing I want to write. The way you feel things are unravelling too, that's really nice. I particularly liked Twilight sitting under the tree. It all goes a bit fast, but the way it's weighing down on the characters and sweeping them by justifies it (until it's too fast at the end). At least here they don't have weeks to contemplate and (not) talk.
Right. Comparisons to Archie. There's certainly a few. Fluttershy's character for one. Luna, more pressingly. I do have to wonder, are the similarities just how CiG writes her, how he writes her when dealing with this topic specifically, or direct references to this fic? At least Celestia is here, somewhat. I'm not sure I like her.
The prose at least is good, I only spotted a single typo too. Until it isn't. The ending reads like the kind of thing I'd write as an overeager edgy teen trying to mimic Lovecraft's style. But before that, it's usually pretty good.
I like this less than Archie. But it makes me less angry too. Something you can clearly tell was constrained, but still has nice bits.
Time to decide what we're reading next:
>https://beta.ponepaste.org/8813
I vote for Fixing Up Miss Smartypants.

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>>39964184
Not uploading is religious for him. If he read the story, which he probably didn't, then he's fantasizing about having the willpower to be Hassan at the end. If he did read it, then he didn't understand it, which is similar enough to not reading it.

>>39964188
I was really liking the first chapter, but my family from abroad came for a visit so I didn't have time. Hope to join next week.

>>39964190
At least you must be enjoying FiO arguments finally being about what actually happens in the story.

>>39964188
So this was one and a half nothingburgers. Maybe it's because a straight up downgrade to The Archetypist, but jesus this was not a fun or interesting read. Maybe if I'd read this on its own, it would have at least been at least somewhat interesting. it wasn't.
The prose was just barely decent, the characters extremely OOC (especially Luna), the dream shit unsubtle. The inclusion of human months made me ree.
Only thing I sort of liked was shared dream between RD and Twi. Too bad it was about as subtle as a sledgehammer and was not explored in the slighest past "lol dreams leak out into the real world"
This story should have either been 9555 words shorter, or 90k words longer.
The Archetypist looked boring, but was at least somewhat intriguing. This was 100% boring, with a 30% overlap of pure nonsensical. Even Reckoning was better than this. Reckoning might have been boring, but it did have neat moments.
3/10. Only saving grace was that it was merely ten kilowords long.

>>39964184
Your logic is based on circular reasoning that presupposes everyone is or will be uploaded and works from there. You are ignoring the fact that we exist outside of the simulation beforehand. I know how the story works, but you do not understand how reality works. You do not get that people will make decisions with the knowledge that they have right now, outside of Equestria Online. It does not matter that I would be made to like it if I were to upload because I won't upload in the first place because my values are antithetical to uploading.
>>39964190
Thanks for the retarded post as always, tunanigger.

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>>39964199
Oh man, believe it.

>>39964193
Wrong club, nonny.

>>39964201
>Your logic is based on circular reasoning that presupposes everyone is or will be uploaded and works from there
Stopped reading right there.
No, it's based on the fact I've read the story. What the fuck are butting in for if you don't know how CelestAI even works? Dumb cunt.

>>39964190
>you clearly don't understand the story because if you did then you would agree with it and like it because obviously everyone would
God, you really are the worst poster that will ever exist in this thread.

>>39964206
FUCKING-

>>39964213
Hey, at least you have 19 more hours to catch up.

>>39964212
Ironically, he's right this time.

>>39964207
Yeah, there's some fatal disconnect in your ability to perform basic logic. You're the type to believe in roko's basilisk.

>>39964220
You're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Read the story, retard.

>>39964188
>I am happy I read this fic after also having read Archetypist
Complete opposite for me. Maybe I would have been able to find a shred of entertainment in this pile of nothing had I not read the exact same story the week before.
>but maybe I'm being too harsh
You're not being harsh enough.
>The one Twilight has about Rainbow is the kind of thing I want to write
Do it. That's something I'd actually want more of. Instead of the tonnes of nothing this story provided.
>But before that, it's usually pretty good
Nah, it's very low-effort, basic bitch writing. He only put in the time to make sure nothing sounded offensively bad, but compared to the Archetypist's first half it's just lazy. Admittedly it's still better than a good chunk of stories we've read.
>Voting
A Gay Old Time. I'm intrigued about the premise and how such a synopsis can fit in a T fic.

>>39964222
>you've never read it! you've never read it!
I have. You are exceptionally, painfully autistic.

Another day spent in blissful ignorance, never having read FiO, filtering out all discussions. Howard had a point.

>>39964227
Then you'd understand choosing not to upload is unrealistic and someone who claims they would be able to thinks they're a super special snowflake.

>>39964228
Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm sure their conversation is riveting, but I'm so glad I can tune it out.

>>39964228
>>39964239
I'm not sure what you think you're gaining

>>39964241
Bliss.

>>39964242
From what?

>>39964228
I have, but I also had enough of Black Mirror after one season, so it did not do much for me.

>>39964229
Why?
>because the story just says so
That doesn't work when you're trying to tell the reader what they would and wouldn't do. LW shit has legitimately poisoned this thread. "Rationalists" are literally incapable of even conceptualizing anyone disagreeing with them, so they take it as a given that everyone will inevitably agree with them. It's exactly like I said. There's a fatal error in your ability to reason because you are autistic and lack any ability to actually understand people or interpersonal relationships.

>>39964244
Ignorance.

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>>39964246
By the time Hassan died in the story, you would have experienced ten thousand years of angrily shitposting on Equestria-Online 4chan, successfully convincing people not to upload.

>>39964250
Unsurprisingly low post quality.
You're only proving me right by doubling down on your insistence that it's a complete inevitability that everyone would upload. Again, you are for no reason assuming that that's just how things would work and that anything other than that is clearly just ridiculous fantasy.

>>39964258
>keeps thinking he's one of the most resilient people alive (either that or pretending he's read the story)
>writes long posts in response to single sentences
>calls somebody else autistic
Somebody tell this guy he's thicker than Tunafag

>>39964272
Or, maybe, the willpower required is actually much lower than the story pretends it is and CelAI would never get to the point where she can just leverage you because way more people would turn her down way earlier than the story pretends.

You guys are all fucking stupid.

>>39964286
>what if things went differently than the story shows
Different anon, but it sounds like you're making arguments based on some fic that you made up in your head while pretending that it's still FiO.

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>>39964286

>>39964288
Thanks! That's smarter than most people would claim I am.

>>39964292
Maybe I'm making the argument that FiO is stupid and nonsensical.

>>39964288
No U.

>>39964200
>OOC characters
Hardly, certainly less than Archie, and again Discord was on point. I'll agree Tia just fucking off is off but at least it fits thematically, and on that note that's why Luna is like she is too. Granted, yes, she's off, but it's the point.
>human mouths
What an odd complaint. You will never be a pony.
>>39964226
>the exact same story
But that's what's fun. Seeing people hunted by their inner demons and trying to exorcise them repeatedly is fun. I'm not weird for half writing the same story five times. Shut up.
>prose quality
considering how much older it is and the circumstances of it being written, it's good enough. Archie had infinite potential time for polish and got half-assed, this is presented as is and still very neat in places. It's not worth criticising.

Does this happen every time someone mentions FiO?

>>39964343
No, usually people seethe about whether uploading kills or not. Mostly because the fic says it doesn't, but describes a process that likely would under our irl understanding of it.

Reading warp core consperacy, this is a very weird mishmashed AU equestria. It feels like a star trek fan only skimmed some surface level things about mlp and then wrote the story. All the star trek stuff is on point, but all the pony stuff is changed up for no apparent reason.

>>39964229
Just tuned in and saw the funny discussion happening again. This is the correct post, I'm glad it's been made already.

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>>39964024
It can't actually be worth reading in any capacity, right?
This is just another Doam. A thousand people clicked the upvote by accident, and then clicked on it two more times?

>>39964327
>Discord
True.
>the princesses being OOC is the point
Eh, maybe if this story was given more length and a half dozen more editing passes I'd buy that.
>>mouths
Months. As in, those things on the calendar. As in, September.
I know it's a stupid complaint, but there's no reason ponies would be using the same calendar as we.
>>39964327
>I'm not weird for half writing the same story five times. Shut up.
Kek. To be fair, my stories share their main themes as well.

>>39964343
Interesting stories get discussed more, and you know how people act on the internet

>>39964414
>362:8
It must be really good to a specific type of audience if a 238th sequel is still getting points like that.

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>>39964510
I guess reading someone else's self insert is a little like watching a streamer play a game instead of playing the game yourself
Or watching porn instead of having sex

It seems like an ersatz of the real thing, but also much less effort than doing it yourself

>>39964448
>>>months
Holy shit I need to start wearing glasses. That's embarrassing.
It is something I tend to avoid myself in my horse works, but it's also something I don't really mind when it pops up in fics. You gotta call them something after all.
>Princesses
Specifically, Luna's whole thing is being excited and into these changes, and vague implications that this is a repeat of what really happened 1k years ago and things are doomed to loop. And really it's a vehicle for CiG to confront his inner demons. It's passable. Celestia definitely gets done dirtier, and the story would definitely work better if that whole stuff was expanded. And I do need to read more CiG to gauge whether his Luna is always like this or not. But because it's kind of what the fic hinges on it's not really something worth complaining over too much. I would need to check if this was written before or after DPDOMS?
>my stories
You have multiple?

>>39964005
>I don't even personally mind the wings
I always knew Reviewtranny was at least Hasdrone-adjacent. Very disappointed. Many such cases.

>>39964505
What other fics cause intense friction between would be horseworderers?

>>39964592
Background Pony
Fallout: Equestria
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>>39964563
Filly aint a bloody tranny, ya dingus.

>>39964671
...and we have credible first party sources

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>>39964684
Yes.

>>39964414
I've read the whole series. It's comfy and updates regularly. The self-insert is pretty overpowered (he oneshots a lot of season-finale bosses), but fortunately the fic is mostly SoL and focuses more on the relationships between various characters rather than direct conflict.

The first in the series (the one you posted, https://www.fimfiction.net/story/279271/new-beginnings) is pretty good. It's only later in the series that he turns into a super-special bat-alicorn prince of his own country.

>>39964671
Completely unrelated, but are there any good halo crossovers?

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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/536468/tired
This little story appeared in the sinbox today. It's not really special - Rainbow dash has depression, snaps at her friends and runs home, then Twilight comes to her place and confides in her that she also has depression. But it made me wonder - are there any good long stories about depression?

>>39964916
BP. Not because it's good but because it really makes you understand the way depression fucks with your head if you look at it on a meta level.

>>39964916
>>39964632

>>39964916
Yeah, seconding BP. It's literally about Lyra struggling with her curse which makes her depressed for the entirety of the story. Plus, being forgotten by everyone means she just "talk it out". Just don't take Lyra's insights and personal revelations as life lessons, that's a poor idea.
Word of warning, you should expect [good] purple prose. That's not something to everyone's liking.

>>39964968
>means she just
*means she can't

I'm looking for a thought-provoking philosophical thriller fiction dealing extensively and graphically with Chrysalis ovipositor.
Must include at minimum 3 extended and detailed oviposition scenes dealing with brooding loneliness, the indifference of the universe and the inevitability of change from the insertion of embryonic alien life where it was not meant to be. Lengthy internal monologues a must. Self-reflection resulting in new insight and acceptance of one's fate appreciated.

>>39964916
If you read BP just be forewarned that it's practically more like a political manifesto or a cult doctrine but for depression.

>>39964971
Sounds like an EaW fic.

>>39964984
>>39964947
>>39964955
>>39964968
It really is the obvious choice and i should have mentioned that i've already read BP and loved it, it's one of my favorite mlp fanfics despite the controvertial ending. I was looking for something less popular, hidden gems or something

>>39964671
Says the resident tranny

>>39964889
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/476706/a-noble-death
This got decently popular, and also completed recently. I'm not sure about its actual quality, but I somehow have it in my read later.

>>39964916
Sinbox more like sneedbox. Only city slickers ever really like it.

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>>39964916
Hijacking this post: I instead offer Scootaloo has depression, now with 20% more idolized rainbow mares
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/536460/the-vultures-coinflip

>>39964671
He's a faggot, same thing.

>>39963747
You got there eventually, but your first comment was wildly off-base. Your second comment had more-or-less the right idea, but wrongly focused on a particular implementation detail of ElasticSearch (base64-encoded "scroll IDs") instead of the general strategy, which can be implemented any number of ways. It gives the impression that, while you may know how to use ElasticSearch, you don't actually understand the underlying principles.

>>39964190
Why do you even bother typing up these bizarre fantasies about how everyone who disagrees with you is a drooling idiot?

I'd like to warn others to not write an invincible villain that immediately heals through any injury and can kill the hero with a single touch because it makes writing a fight scene centered around them really tough when the hero also doesn't have magic or anything. Also having the villain be a shitty fighter who basically just chases the hero down and hardly reacts to any attacks is also not conducive to an exciting fight.

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>>39965410
So don't be a retard? Good advice man.

>>39965420
It's harder than you think.

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>>39965244
Because it's fun, and also because that guy is. I know he thinks "I value not being uploaded" will stymie CelestAI, but the degree to which he missed the subtext in the Lars plot line basically leaves no option for any other response.
It was less subtle than a brick to the head, so imagine that instead of this incredible Vegeta, I posted a wojack with a brick shaped indentation in the brain area with a brick having passed cleanly through it.

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I finished typing up my notes and they don't fit in the 3k limit :(

>>39965144
>spartan wakes up in a pony body
uhhh usually a sign of bad quality, and possibly a marysue power fantasy circle jerk

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>>39965510
Do you finally understand how much I suffer?

>>39963262
Reminds me how I used to think the waifu love songs were cringy, but now think they're some of the most passionate content the fandom has made.

>>39963763
>1790:19
I knew anatomyfags were a small, loud minority. I never realized just how small.

>>39964024
>3,652 upvotes to 367
Is there any fic series that actually got more popular as it went on or is a 20% sequel tax the fate for every fic?

>>39965410
>immediately heals through any injury and can kill the hero with a single touch
The only way I see this working is if the guy's just fucking around and doing it for the lulz. Anything else sounds like you need to do a big rewrite.

>>39964517
>You gotta call them something after all.
I think it's easier to avoid them alltogether and just use relative terms.
>You have multiple?
There's the one I haven't published yet, and the one I haven't written yet.

>>39965092
>i've already read BP and loved it
I'm really sorry you have brain damage.

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>>39965410
In my setting I am working on there is a type of monster pony who is canonically one of the most powerful creatures in the setting, and would be incredibly lethal if it decided to take things seriously. But, it only wants to get reactions out of ponies, and considers pain to be too easy and boring, and finds joy in messing with ponies instead. You could possibly have something similar, where the villain is so adapted to or aloof in its knowledge of invincibility and supreme power, that it has decided to entertain itself by exploring other avenues of interaction of interaction or toying with their prey. Essentially, consider the realistic outcomes of a villain possessing such a power, tie it into your goals and design for him, and come up with a strong, understandable reason for him to behave as such that the reader will agree with or at the very least understand. You could also give them some kind of power balancing, like they're invincible sure, but are they easily manipulated or fooled? Can they be trapped in something? Do they need to work a 9 to 5 to support themselves in this economy, and can only pursue the protagonist for a limited time? This sounds like an opportunity to experiment with creative options, and less so an actual issue.rthxjp

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>Read a harrowing personal account of a Hiroshima survivor clinging to life on day 1 describing viscerally the charred ruins - and people - of his home
>Get inspired to write a pony fic scene/ short story

>>39965901
Man made horrors and suffering beyond our comprehension?
I know the perfect franchise!

Any good non fetish transformation stories?
Like Anon turns into a pony, minus the tranny sexual fantasy thing? Something that actually deals with the horrific reality that would be having your form ripped from you?

>>39965918
These are hard, because it's not like there's some clear goal the MC can really work towards to fix their situation. So you either get 10 chapters of depression and wallowing and then maybe Celly comes down from the sky to doff his hooves, or he just wanders around as a punching bag and that's the whole fic

TF-but-bad makes a powerless protag that faces a surrealist problem they have no hope of fixing.
If that's what you want, you're basically looking for Kafka's Metamorphosis

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>>39965907
Sorry, i'm already writing my OWN shitty, post-apocalyptic pony setting. I won't write for another.

>>39965928
>TF-but-bad
>implying TF isn't bad by default

>>39965939
>moral realism
Stones, glass houses.
Let people enjoy their niche thing, lest you'd like to show your family the fine works of literature that you jerk of to

>>39965946
I doubt they'd even recognize what I get off to as pornography.

>>39965948
If your nether region can't even recognize porn by looking at it, then it's shit pornography
Modern-art dicked anon

>>39965950
I prefer the term "degenerate art".

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>>39965928
So wait. Are you saying that any story that doesn't innately fetishize TF stuff has to be a shitty depression romp? Cause I can already imagine several ways such a concept can be taken and made interesting.
Why do you think it's a bad idea?

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>>39965510
>>39965522
>check my book club post
>5k
It's over.

>>39965989
>So wait. Are you saying that
As a rule of thumb, I've never a sentence that starts this way where the answer is yes
You don't scare crows with straw effigies these days, they know about those. You scare them with "are you saying that...?"

>any story that doesn't innately fetishize TF stuff has to be a shitty depression romp?
I think if you focus on "dealing with the horrific reality that would be having your form ripped from you", then it'll be a shitty depression romp, because there's nothing the protag can realistically do to escape the aforementioned "horrific reality" they're trapped in.

If you take a more neutral angle without involving any fetish stuff, and without trying to deal with the horrific reality, then there's plenty you can do, yeah.
I'd prime target market for some good TF stories, even if I've been burned in the past a few times.

>Why do you think it's a bad idea?
I think if you can come up with an idea that you think won't fall into the traps above, then you should write it. I don't have a TF fetish, but I don't mind reading TF as long as it's executed decently

>>39965991
I’m the original Anon that wrote the request. I don’t really agree with your assessment.
One can try to emulate humanity by creating human-like architecture that works for the new pony form, study and learn magic/alchemy to get your form back, learn to accept things, try to use tech to bring as much human technology into equestria as possible etc there’s a lot of different paths other than just giving up or waiting for a deus ex machina from Celestia.
My core issue is that the vast majority of TF stories are basically wish fulfillment in disguise. It usually either takes less than a few hundred words for the person to just accept that they’re a pony now and move on or it’s dragged out but obviously for alterior reasons. (Mental changes fetish thing and such).
It’s like if the most autistic /o/ poster who lives and breathes cars was put in charge of writing a fast and furious movie. It would just be close ups of the cars, people talking about the cars, stats about the cars etc and the story would become secondary. TF stories are filled with such stories where the wish fulfillment takes over and the story/more complex themes become secondary
>you should write it
As you can probably tell from this pretty incoherent post I’m not good at putting my thoughts down on paper and would not make a good writer. But I know there are a lot of already written stories that are slept on

>>39965901
Hiroshima was never hit with a nuke, it was firebombed.

>>39963262
raw, indomitable power

>>39965524
The Venn diagram overlap region of people with a faggotbooru account and people with actual taste is smaller than Luna's ass.

>>39966058
Your brain was firebombed

>>39966106
I get some of my best writing done with a high fever.

>>39966090
So, still big enough for an Apollo mission?

>>39966114
>still big enough for cold war propaganda
probably.

At this point I don't even know who's shitposting who.

>>39964971
This is so extremely specific that you won't find it unless you write it yourself

>>39965244
>Why do you even bother typing up these bizarre fantasies about how everyone who disagrees with you is a drooling idiot?
Again, he was right.

>>39965410
I already knew you were a dull retard, but this is a new low. Not only is that villain concept utterly stupid, partially for this very reason, but also "the person you're fighting will kill you with a single touch" is a hype setup and a great reason to have your protag start at a disadvantage every time no matter how prepared he is.

A fight scene designed entirely around narrow dodges, blocks, and using the environment to stop his touch and/or immobilise him has great potential. Have you tried being a better writer?

>>39964190
Tunafag wandering onto an interstate be like:
>That truck that hit me is such a fool for not stopping

>>39966181
No, anon, NMMflag is the one that got his by a bus

>>39965758
>I think it's easier to avoid them alltogether
That's what I usually do.
If flagless anon doesn't chime in with his thoughts and a vote, I'm fine with switching mine to your pick. We'll wait until later and see.

>>39966255
What's the diffrence?

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Odd Opinions + Celestia is a Boomer + Waning Headcanons + Purpleness of Prose + Lunar Highlights + Worrying
>/FSBC/

~(E)~
I love this fic. Full stop. And if -- judging by some of the posts last week -- I have to fight literally everyone else in the bookclub about it, I will. It has a few more truly dumb errors than I'd have liked (PLEASE get prereaders for your 3k+ updoot stories), but despite that right now it's looking like a possible nine out of ten for me. I'll die on this hill if need be.
~(E)~
The first thing that's immediately apparent about the fic is its mood. It's not a cheap tearbait like so many other [Sad] fics, this one uses the tag primarily to describe the general atmosphere. The kind of pervasive melancholy tinged with nostalgia that this story was going for is one of my favorite emotions, and it's really nice to see it depicted in a story so expressively. Anything pertaining to Celestia exudes it directly; every other major character feels this way about something or someone. It's a clear main theme, one that I really strongly enjoy and sympathize with. Please, more fics like this.
~(E)~
I also love how the main characters are portayed. The Main 6 are forgettable side characters (except Rarity; she's quite good here), but this is a Celestia/Luna/Twilight story, and all of them are excellent. I already said how much I like the mood of Celestia's scenes, but honestly my favorite character in this fic is probably Luna. She's so good. One of the best Lunas I've ever seen, and the fic only had S1+S2 to work with. Getting dreamwalking right before the show even hinted at it is one thing, but the whole thing about Luna changing with the Moon's phases was an excellent headcanon that I've not seen in ages. Every conversation Luna had with Twi and (especially!) Celestia was a treat. Celestia is -- and will always be -- the regal one, but this Luna feels no less majestic in her own way.
But there's more to them than some cool dialogue and even better headcanons. The Princesses and Twilight have surprising depth to their characters. The fic draws a lot of attention to it, and thankfully it doesn't fall flat. They're all fairly complex, and have some problems that are not immediately apparent. Either because they're not eager to reveal them, or because they're not aware of them themselves.
Like that "OOC" confrontation between Luna and Dash. The reasons why Dash is so aggressive towards the Princesses are hinted at earlier, but you won't get the whole picture unless you also pay attention to future chapters, where it's briefly mentioned that e.g. Twi consoled Dash after the latter left Wonderbolts.
Other things are set up way in advance; we still haven't seen the conversation about masks happen, and though you might try to guess what is it about, I'd be willing to bet good money on it coming back later.
~(E)~

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>>39966292
~(E)~
Let's talk purple prose and style in general. As I said, the mistakes hurt it, but at the same time, it's clear that the author knew *something* about what they were doing. It's a very subjective thing, but I love it. Every bit of information is doled very gradually, piece by piece filling out the puzzles. And the fic is -- intentionally -- full of those. Ambiguity and subtlety were principles the author held in high regard, and those long-winded conversations where both parties try to discern at least something about the topic are a huge draw to the fic for me. This is the kind of super dense prose that halves your reading speed, and I'm all here for it. It did get easier to read after a chapter or two; I'm not sure if anything changed, or if I simply got used to it. It's a shame so few people read In Sheep's Clothing, because in many aspects that fic is the exact opposite of Eternal, prose style being one of those aspects.
Even the big words fit pretty well; contrary to some of the fics we've read in the past, I got the impression that even if the author actively tried to include them, at least he knew what they mean, instead of copying them straight from a thesaurus.
~(E)~
I don't have a point to make here, not really, but there have been several amazing scenes that I must mention. So this is the >KINO part of the post. All of Princesses' conversations were good, but the first one -- the one with waning Luna -- convinced me to give this fic a fair chance (I was ready to be down on it after reading the thread). I know I've said it, but these Luna+Celestia scenes are all great. The wedding was great for the same reason, but in addition to that, it was also very pretty; one of the spots where the purpleness of the descriptions worked just perfectly without becoming boring. I loved the sudden shift to Twilight's PoV for the tea party, and how surreal it felt. Twi's mind scenes were also very strong.
If there's anything I didn't particularly enjoy, it's the M6 involvement in the second half of chapter 5. It's not their story. Thankfully the author was aware this and didn't make them involved in later plot, but if so, I don't really see a point of dragging them to Canterlot. Maybe it'll be relevant later. Oh, and this is like the third book club fic where anthro-sized Spike makes an appearance. This (bad) trope is more common than I thought.
~(E)~
Fitting with the fic's themes, I'm also worried about the future [of this story]. There's still almost 100k words ahead of us, and I struggle to see how the fic could manage to do fill that space without either going fully of the rails and getting lost in fluff or pivoting to another plot entirely. But the author can (and hopefully will) still surprise me, we shall see about that soon enough.
~(E)~
Chapters 6 and 7 (both parts) for next week.

>>39966292
ITT Fluttermac + Zecora has cousins + Famously dusty trails + 2012 cliches + mentally schizo Luna + pphysically schizo Luna + even more godheads
I like it so far, and also I've already read it at some point. I specifically remembered the stairway story scene and Celestia on the stone dais. What I didn't remember is how many 2012isms this has in it. Also I like the idea of Luna somehow being affected by the phases of the moon. I think it's neat but this story kind of goes crazy with it. There's no way they could be equal rulers in the eyes of the ponies when Luna is equivalent to Celestia for 2 days out of the month. The emotional and physical states are way too impactful. Nopony would go to night court for half the month while Luna is waning because she would just trash everyone and whatever they're petitioning for. Or maybe that's when people would go with a dispute when they 100% know they're right. But she's essentially just hyper-bipolar and spends 990% of her life significantly physically disabled.

>Twilight Sparkle in full organization mode, being obeyed without question by Apple family stallions twice her size.
>The attendees either travelled up the famously dusty trail—this, Celestia understood, being something of a matter of pride amongst the Apple family for all it distressed the unicorn nobleponies to no end—
Apple style kino
>fluttermac
nvm, it was merely trying to redeem itself
>as the rest of the wedding party laughed humongously at something Pinkie Pie had said at Rainbow Dash’s expense.
Rainbow btfo
>See you in the funny pages
kino
>Celestia stared into the first snatches of sunrise
>Celestia flashes Twilight her godhead
>Filly Twilight
Always fucking adorable. I'm glad Luna is a main character in this, even if she has her quirks. I like the dynamic between the Princesses and Twilight, it was particularly... relatable? when Luna admits she didn't even try to get Twi and Tia to get closer again. Because she was jealous of both of their relations. It's fun so far but I wonder what the entire second half of the story is about. Also I read the whole thing on my kindle and it really is impressive how good it looks in the sun, there's practically no difference between night and day when looking at the screen. In fact, it's actually a little easier during the day.
>>39966292
>judging by some of the posts last week -- I have to fight literally everyone else in the bookclub about it
Last week when no one showed up? I didn't recall seeing much of anything about this one. But I like it too so don't worry.
>pls proofread
I could ignore it for a while but there was one part in chapter 3 or so, where there was about 3 or so errors in practically as many sentences and it was a bit ridiculous.

>>39966292
Zzzzz.....Zzzzzzz...Huh, what? Book club already? Sorry, I was snoozing a bit. This fic is just really BORING. (Special, "Lunaflag was right" episode)

Or maybe that's not even the right word. There is a pretty good concept here, but the fic explores it in such an unevocative way, that my head literally hurt after I finished chapter V. The fic really drags on, and probably the thing it would benefit from the most would be being half this long.
This author really-really likes WORDS. And I bet he thinks if you write more words about something that automatically becomes better. Sorry, but no. He goes for purple prose, but it's not really it. It's more like wordy prose, and no more. There are some still not good, but much better purple prose authors out there, but clearly, Device Heretic is not one of them.

Sadly, as otherwise I'd like to read about a really talented pony who moved on in life, but it's as hard on her as it is on her former mentor. Really, that's a great concept, but not one that deserves 160k words. Or maybe, the fic will REALLY pick up after ch5, and will become faster paced AND will expand its scope, but I somehow doubt it. Or maybe, it should have been written by someone who can justify those 160k words.
While I'm at it, I think this fic is seriously mistagged. Adventure? Really? It didn't seem like to be one, so far.

Maybe I could forgive these on the basis that it's a really old fic, shall I say "a classic". Good cope, but there are old fics which actually hold up; this doesn't seem like to be among them. And if I'm tearing on the fic, lemme go all-out.
Applejack's accent written out phonetically is annoying. I know this is also one of those "early fic" things, but I believe even back then not every fic did that. It's just bad to read, after a while. I can imagine her drawl inside my head when I know I'm reading AJ, thank you.

Like in many stories where the mane 6 are sorta forced into the narrative, they act their most basic selves. This actually also true for the show, to an extent, but apparent here as well. This isn't really a negative, as much as an observation. But maybe you shouldn't use them in scenes where they aren't really necessary.
>character verbed, adjectively
Many such cases. Sure, you should break up a lengthy back-and-forth between two characters with some fluff, so it doesn't feel too dry, but this sorta thing doesn't really help. (1/2)

>>39966327
Now some good things too. Leave the best for last, and all that.
The fic's premise is actually really good, no problem with that. And for such an early fic, it's actually, dare I say, an almost bold one.
Luna's arcane menstruation is an interesting concept, how she physically changes with the phases of the moon. I guess that wanted to explain why she looks so different in Luna Eclipsed from the pilot. Interesting headcanon, and actually pretty cool, creative stuff.
Also, she can communicate through dreams. Now I know dream stuff was headcanoned often about her even back then, it's still interesting to read in a fic which was clearly written before Sleepless in Ponyville.
Also, why Celestia has her multihued mane. These early-fandom explanations in are such a blast from the past for me, and make me smile when I read them.

Chapter IV was the best overall, and I think the one I actually enjoyed, and didn't just want to get over with. Twilight ducking in a bush, and puppeteering is such a funny mental image that it made me giggle, but this whole chapter was overall a notch above everything else. Maybe this is why the fic has the adventure tag. I dunno. But if the whole fic would be like this, I could probably enjoy it.

That's it for now. I don't know if I'll have the mental fortitude to continue reading for next week's book club. If not, deep apologies from everyone, but I still think I should enjoy a fic, even if /thread health/ depends on it. Shameful, as I even voted on it. But we'll see. (2/2)

>>39966317
>The emotional and physical states are way too impactful.
It definitely takes it as far as you can without making her an actual schizo (or maybe even a little past that line), but I liked it. Even the difference between waning Luna from ch1 and waxing Luna from ch5 is really visible.
>But she's essentially just hyper-bipolar and spends 990% of her life significantly physically disabled.
It's not that bad. Even at her weakest, she's still described as stronger than a talented unicorn. Just not godlike-level anymore. Same with her character. She's aware of how the Moon influences her.
And don't forget she started this mysterious/edgy routine after coming back from her banishment. She was described as much more joyful before that.
>There's no way they could be equal rulers in the eyes of the ponies when Luna is equivalent to Celestia for 2 days out of the month.
Yeah, but she gets dream powers as her irl powers recede. Not the worst trade-off. Meanwhile Celestia has is supposed to hibernate every couple decades. Also there's nothing saying that they have to have equal popularity, Luna appeared/was born because Celestia couldn't handle staying up 24/7 for eternity.
>I like the dynamic between the Princesses and Twilight
For sure. Luna's great here, I can't wait until the fic goes back to chapters with Celestia (presumably the very next one).
>I wonder what the entire second half of the story is about.
Yes, this is concerning.

>>39966327
>There is a pretty good concept here, but the fic explores it in such an unevocative way
Interesting. While I can, of course, see why you'd call it boring, I wouldn't call in unevocative. As you said, it's not even really all that purple, it just takes its time dwelling on every detail that could be important. It's not a universally liked style (closer to the opposite) but it sells every little gesture and sentence in the characters' speeches. Especially Luna; more concise writing would kill 90% of the appeal of this rendition of her character. But yes, the author clearly likes WORDS, too.
>Really, that's a great concept, but not one that deserves 160k words.
Yeah, definitely. Even maintaining this very... deliberate style of writing, I don't see how the fic is 160k words long. I don't know what happens next, but given what we know now, it could be half that length.
>I think this fic is seriously mistagged. Adventure? Really?
[Sad][Drama] would be better for now, but to be fair it looks like we might've hit the [Adventure] part at the end of ch5.
>mane 6 are sorta forced into the narrative,
I agree, but they don't appear to be too important. They had to show up when Twilight went into this magical COPE-coma, and they've already been left behind a chapter later.

>>39966058
...by the airburst of a nuclear weapon.

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>>39966292
>pervasive melancholy tinged with nostalgia
Yeah the story seems to nail that so far. All the characters just have an unease to them and they all know something is wrong but nobody really knows just what it is. This is almost like a parallel feeling to what I wish horror stories could pull off. Too bad people only write eldritch shit
>>39966292
>The Main 6 are forgettable side characters (except Rarity; she's quite good here)
kek, I like Fluttershy at least seeming to be closer to Luna than some of the others. I like her and Luna's interactions during the staircase story.
>but this is a Celestia/Luna/Twilight story, and all of them are excellent
Yeah, agree here. They are all being silly little ponies in the way we have come to expect.
>favorite character in this fic is probably Luna
based
>>39966294
>Even the big words fit pretty well; contrary to some of the fics we've read in the past
I also specifically noticed this. The sometimes advanced vocabulary actually fits this author and their style unlike the jarring shit we sometimes see.
>So this is the >KINO part of the post
That's like the best part of the non-final week posts
>first princess cene
I agree it sets the mood really well, and I loved picrel
>M6 involvement in the second half of chapter 5. It's not their story. Thankfully the author was aware this and didn't make them involved in later plot, but if so, I don't really see a point of dragging them to Canterlot. Maybe it'll be relevant later.
huge massive spoiler (sarcastic) I saw that the first 5 words of the next chapter (thanks to kindle) are applejack doing something so we're probably about to get the reason very soon
>This (bad) trope is more common than I thought.
Spike himself is a bad trope, but yeah, anthro spike who always catches rarity when she fallls and whatnot does nothing for a story
>I'm also worried about the future [of this story]. There's still almost 100k words ahead of us
exactly lol, we seem to be approaching the end of an arc (but maybe not) and I don't know what the rest of the story is about. Unless it really takes them that long to wake celestia up

>>39966327
>Sorry, I was snoozing a bit. This fic is just really BORING. (Special, "Lunaflag was right" episode)
kek put a flag on for opinions such as these
>shall I say "a classic". Good cope, but there are old fics which actually hold up; this doesn't seem like to be among them
I'm already laffin thinking about what fics you might be referring to, simply based on the ones we've read in the club already
>>39966330
>Luna's arcane menstruation
I had this exact thought kek, Cellestia practically says 'Shit, it's that time of the month' when she goes to meet her while she's waning.
>Maybe this is why the fic has the adventure tag
I'm thinking we're about to go into Celestia's mind or something really soon.

>>39966330
>I don't know if I'll have the mental fortitude to continue reading for next week's book club
Don't read shit you don't want to. It's unironically what killed Lyranon. Since the 'host' is somewhat obligated to reading.
>Shameful, as I even voted on it
nvm sounds like you should face the consequences of your actions.

>>39966352
>It definitely takes it as far as you can without making her an actual schizo (or maybe even a little past that line), but I liked it
I like it too, it just seems a bit 'much'. It seems like maybe the power ceiling should've been higher instead of just lowering the floor. Like during the 1 or 2 nights of a full moon she is actually stronger than celestia, which would've created a perfect scenario for Tia having to use the elements to fight Luna off (from just wanting her to take a nap). But instead it almost seems like she's a weakness of the Equestrian government. Since she's practically mortal. It's a surprise nobody assassinated her before her forced naptime.
>990%
I meant 90% kek
>Even at her weakest, she's still described as stronger than a talented unicorn
There are plenty of talented unicorns though. And probably a very decent amount stronger than that. She probably would've been harassed by nobles in the passed at any point when she was near new moon. Admittedly Celestia's 3 month naps somewhat balance it, but I still imagine any project of any real import just waited 3 months so they could bring it up to Celestia
> Also there's nothing saying that they have to have equal popularity
kek, true enough

>>39966327
>>39966330
These were me. I was posting with S1 Luna a few times in the previous book clubs as well.
>>39966360
>I'm already laffin thinking about what fics you might be referring to, simply based on the ones we've read in the club already
Off the top of my head, Apotheosis and Hard Reset. And Friendship is Optimal holds up too, in a way. Sorry, I just seem to like the shorter, more straightforward, retardslop stories. Can't help it.

>>39966380
>Off the top of my head, Apotheosis and Hard Reset. And Friendship is Optimal
Certainly not as bad as it could've been. Also thinking of FiO is weird. It's like I barely consider it a fic.

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>>39966330
>Interesting headcanon, and actually pretty cool, creative stuff.
100%
>Chapter IV was the best overall, and I think the one I actually enjoyed,
It had the most action but I liked the first two chapters a lot. The ones where Celestia tries to come to terms with changes while figure out what's bothering her and what's wrong. Very strong, atmospheric writing. But you might get what you want; after all, we've stopped right before another ch4-like situation.
>Twilight ducking in a bush, and puppeteering is such a funny mental image that it made me giggle
It had the exact perfect ratio of that, while also being kind of spooky. The glass-eyed Fakelestia jittering on the ground was closer to horror than not.

>>39966360
>I like Fluttershy at least seeming to be closer to Luna than some of the others.
Good catch, it was there. I guess washed-out RD also her own story, even though I'm not exactly sure how important it is beyond being a parallel for Celestia's story.
>Spike himself is a bad trope, but yeah, anthro spike
Even when the fic tries to go for a different look, I always imagine those big Spikes as picrel. Doesn't make it better, but at least it lets me chuckle at the mental image of him doing anything.
>It seems like maybe the power ceiling should've been higher instead of just lowering the floor.
I guess, I think the fic puts a lot more emphasis on her dream powers. It's something Celestia can't do at all, so in a way it makes some sense getting that ability needs to be balanced out in some way.

>>39966380
>Off the top of my head, Apotheosis and Hard Reset. And Friendship is Optimal holds up too, in a way.
That's a respectable list. Right now, if I was trying to be more objective, I'd put it a good few notches below Apotheosis and sort of somewhere around Hard Reset.
But personal tastes play a huge part. I didn't care much about the 'coolness' of Hard Reset, while this seems to be exactly the kind of stuff that I like (and I'm willing to overlook some of its flaws). Especially the minor ones, like putting spoilery table of contents at the start of every chapter for some reason.

>>39966389
>I always imagine those big Spikes as picrel. Doesn't make it better, but at least it lets me chuckle at the mental image of him doing anything.
fucking lmao, poor adolescent dragon crackhead with no horde.
>I'd put it a good few notches below Apotheosis and sort of somewhere around Hard Reset.
>I didn't care much about the 'coolness' of Hard Reset,
>>39966380
As I foresaw, I was mostly correct about my thoughts on Hard Reset. All I remember is the baseball bat loop, jumping off a tower after Blueblood made it cool and the practically story-ruining gay reveal.

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>>39965410
Funny, I'm reading a book right now with exactly that sort of villain. Though the villain needs the hero alive (and willing, ideally) for his current plan, so he generally chooses "touch of paralysis" over "touch of death". He can't kill the hero without disrupting his own plans, and there's no sense killing her friends when he could instead use them as hostages.

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>>39966292
We are apparently now enemies, haha.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5921/eternal
(1/2)
The degree to which the Tuna in this fic accomplishes the Herculean task of carrying it is nuts. But more on that later.
Eternal has outgrown whatever cachet it had from the young fandom days as it exemplifies a many of the worst tropes of fanfiction. Most importantly, the first two chapters are 20k words of suck. As Hanna Barbera learned with the creation of Scrappy-Doo: do not make characters whose sole purpose is to be annoying; here the purpose of the first two chapters is to be annoying. Do you want to know what the issues that are facing Twilight and Celestia are going to be in this fic? Fuck you, you get half a tidbit every 10k words while the rest of the time it meanders through 95% pointless BS, just to tease you with the mystery. In here, an enormous amount of headcanons irrelevant to the story are dumped onto what you'd expect to be the setup. Worse, the persistent oldfic trope rears its ugly head: stopping the story to get the reaction of each member of the M6 to some event.
By the end of the third chapter, you'll have a decent idea of what the problems are, but the conflict is among the worst kinds of basis for a romance story. Twilight and Celestia just won't talk to each other about said problems. The problems that they do have are good premise for a Twilestia shipfic, but the fic goes about exploring them in a perpetually obnoxious way. There is also a subplot about solar cycles which could be interesting but I ended up dropping the fic.

Now, the Tuna. Luna in this fic is excellent; as mercurial and playful as in few other fics, most of the time it is great fun to read her. Likewise, this story seems to be constantly trying to jump its tracks and become a Tunafic. Even if the author seems to frequently have to step in and get it back on its ostensible Twilestia tracks, it is constantly benefiting from Twilight's superior relationship with Luna. Many elements of >>39864661 and >>39864674 are repeatedly incorporated, and the results are much more fun to read than the rest of the fic. Unfortunately, it wasn't to last. After a long stint of just Twilight and Luna exploring various scenes in Celestia's dreamscape, the rest of the M6 force their way in and start their obnoxious chimes. I ended up dropping it partway through chapter 7, the Tuna was not Herculean but Sisyphean.

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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/5921/eternal
(2/2)
The fic's prose is frequently incoherent. One example is a metaphor in which Celestia observes that the Treebrary is well organized but Twilight's study is a mess, and indicates that it is an insight into Twilight's state of mind. However, in this metaphor, the mess of Twilight's study is called a lie while the usage of the metaphor implies that the mess reflects Twilight's true mental state. It is this kind of flashy but inchoate writing that I learned to hate from Easthorse. The author really likes writing dream scenes full of these kinds of metaphors and is otherwise very good at it, but it feels like the same kind of dream nonsense is applied to what are supposed to be "real" scenes in the fic as well, where the rules of good narration are more strict and not followed. It is due to this that it often takes a long time after a scene break to find out if it is a different character's perspective, a flashback or memory, or a dream.
>end

Not part of the review, but while Twilight and Luna are often really good reading, Celestia typically isn't fun at all. A great deal of the fic is simply Celestial misery porn, just being tormented and powerless. The confrontation between her and Discord was completely unreadable (as in I skipped it).
As far as I got into the story, the main things that I want to be different about it is the removal of Pinkie Pie, Applejack and Rainbow Dash, the fic is so clearly not about them and their sideplots.

>>39966379
>Don't read shit you don't want to.
The description made it sound good, and that adventure tag really fooled me. It helped the cover art is unique, and effort was put into it. And since I'm an impressionable tard, that made me vote for it. But the biggest selling point was a fic focusing on Celestia, although it seems not everything shines that has her tag (huehue)
>sounds like you should face the consequences of your actions.
Fair enough. As it seems otherwise it would be another depopulated book club next week. I'm hoping the pacing picks up a bit from here on out though.
>>39966389
>putting spoilery table of contents at the start of every chapter for some reason.
Actually, many (especially older) IRL novels do that sort of stuff. So it's "a thing" in the writing world, sort of. As for me, at least it helped me keep track of how much a chapter still had remaining, narratively speaking. Believe me, I anticipated each (except for IV) to be done with.

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>>39966447
Oops, I meant to put one line in this in spoilers. Oh well.

>>39966447
>In here, an enormous amount of headcanons irrelevant to the story are dumped onto what you'd expect to be the setup
Good way to describe a whole bunch of 2012 fics desu. But yeah a whole arc of fluttermac is a bit much.
>Likewise, this story seems to be constantly trying to jump its tracks and become a Tunafic. Even if the author seems to frequently have to step in and get it back on its ostensible Twilestia tracks
kek I also actively noticed this.
>>39966450
>main things that I want to be different about it is the removal of Pinkie Pie, Applejack and Rainbow Dash, the fic is so clearly not about them and their sideplots.
kek I could've done without the perfectly timed Scootaloo and RD shout match in the middle of ponyville

>>39966466
>The description made it sound good, and that adventure tag really fooled me
I'd imagine we're on the precipice of hopping headlong into that and most of what the description talks about

>>39966447
>Fuck you, you get half a tidbit every 10k words while the rest of the time it meanders through 95% pointless BS, just to tease you with the mystery
Well put, that one.

On the other hand, I don't understand why you're reading Tuna into anything. I know it's your schtick, but it's hardly there. If anything, the fic teases Twileastia, but no Tuna. Twilight and Luna are on good terms, sure enough, but not everything is fucking shipping, I really don't think the author wanted any Tuna here.

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>>39966294
>It's a shame so few people read In Sheep's Clothing, because in many aspects that fic is the exact opposite of Eternal, prose style being one of those aspects.
It's funny that you put it this way. Twiflag is the only other one who started ISC, and they had a similar complaint about it having a meandering, overly wordy opening. The wordcount for the setup for ISC is probably similar to Eternal, the gap between the story's start and when it starts getting into the actual mystery of the Canterlot changeling hive.

I was having a very good time with the Tuna part of Eternal, and I ended up reading quite a lot this week. However, I was having such a bad time with the non-Tuna parts of Eternal that I knew I would eventually drop it. That's part of why I continued reading ahead into the next block, skimming or skipping the parts with the M6.
I wanted to hurry and go back to continuing my re-read of ISC, and the difference is night and day. It's so much more nice to read than this one, for me. Very sad that its setting prevents it from having any Tuna.

>>39966447
>>39966450
Oh no!
But actually, this is very interesting. Because despite my declaration earlier, I mostly don't disagree with your observations. I disagree with the conclusions you're drawing from them, sure, but that's not something I can argue against. Still, I can try.
>Fuck you, you get half a tidbit every 10k words while the rest of the time it meanders through 95% pointless BS, just to tease you with the mystery.
(and that's a good thing!)
More seriously, this is serious exaggeration. While the fic does... take it's time to get to the point, what fills the remaining space is not "pointless BS". It's full of those tiny tidbits that make varying amount of sense when you see them, but are setting up the mystery or hinting at an explanation of a part of it. It's a very slow trickle of relevant information, but it doesn't ever stop; there's no actual filler/pointless scenes. Perhaps that's not exactly what you'd call purple prose, but it's not too different from that.
>an enormous amount of headcanons irrelevant to the story are dumped onto what you'd expect to be the setup
>stopping the story to get the reaction of each member of the M6 to some event
Again, it's not nearly as bad as this. The wedding is the big one, but it's about as good of a background for Celestia's Ponyville visit as any other major event that you could think of. Forcing M6 into the plot only happens in chapters 4 and 5 (for now). Their role in the story is negligible and they don't add much, true, but it's not like, say, Moonstone Cup where literally every member of M6 needed to comment on everything they saw.
>Tunafic. Even if the author seems to frequently have to step in and get it back on its ostensible Twilestia tracks
That I agree with, but maybe it was intentional. Right now, this is in equal parts the story of Twilight/Celestian/Luna. He needed to get her more involved if he didn't want to make her feel like a third wheel. And it's good that he did, she's the best character in the story (though, unlike you, I quite like this Celestia, too).
>It is this kind of flashy but inchoate writing that I learned to hate from Easthorse
My biggest takeaway from this is that I probably should read Austraeoh soon. I know it's mostly standalone, but I always wanted to wait until the series is finished. I'm still holding out hope.

>>39966450
>just being tormented and powerless
Powerless, but more out of her element than tormented. I haven't read past ch5, so maybe I'll have to take that back, but in chapters 1-3 she's been making choices and following through on them. Working to improve the situation.
>removal of Pinkie Pie, Applejack and Rainbow Dash, the fic is so clearly not about them and their sideplots
Yeah, especially if they unnecessarily come back into the story later.

>>39966499
> I don't understand why you're reading Tuna into anything.
Because it is an one-note retard.
>If anything, the fic teases Twilestia
lmao

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>>39966499
I'm hardly the only one reading Tuna into the fic, and more importantly the observation that I'm making is that the fic is showing from chapter 1, in every chapter, repeatedly, how much more compatible Twilight and Luna are than Twilight and Celestia. Not to say that they're incompatible, part of what's keeping the Twilestia from happening is, IMO, mischaracterization of Celestia and one of the more fundamental annoyances of the fic: that they won't talk to each other. Supposedly it's later in the fic that Celestia overcomes this.
I wouldn't say the fic is hinting Twilestia, the tags and description shout that it is intended to be a Twilestia fic, definitely with romance.
But, in the fic itself, Twilight and Luna are on really, really, really good terms. The part in chapter 5 about them adopting each other as sisters almost feels like the author DM stepping in to separate two dolls, saying "No, this is supposed to be a Twilestia fic, stoppit!" Later on, there's even a part adding sexual tension. The author can't resist the Tuna.

>not everything is fucking shipping
I include non-shipping Twilight/Luna fics on my Tuna bookshelf. It's inherent to Tuna being the best that this duo makes for great stories even if you don't ship them.

>>39966540
>it's not shipping
>but it should be shipping!
Holy shit retard, take the shipping glasses off for a moment. It's clearly not good for you.

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>>39966536
It's absolutely an exaggeration, yeah. The whole wedding was a good showing of Twilight's organizational skills and had a good payoff in Celestia's reaction. But, the very next day the whole wedding also doesn't matter at all, Fluttershy is right along with them being pointless.
I did like the scene with her in the mountain tunnel, but Twilight could've easily provided that same kind of support.
I realize that some of my earlier post can come off sounding like I don't like the early fandom speculations and headcanons, like of Celestia's dawn colored mane. That's not true at all, but this fic puts them in the wrong place, the beginning, when they should be somewhere in the middle or in a different fic. And some of them just don't belong, like Wonderbolt captain Scootaloo. The fic generally seems to have a bunch of scenes that seem like they were added to it because the author liked them and was unwilling to leave them on the cutting room floor, but they actually don't matter to the story. I see someone is hoping that Dash's washout is supposed to have a parallel to Celestia's sunset but at the point where I dropped the fic I genuinely believe that it's just an unrelated subplot that was jammed in there because the author felt it it was too cool to omit, but didn't have enough substance to be its own story, or that they would otherwise never have time to write it.

>>39966565
>>It's absolutely an exaggeration, yeah. The whole wedding was a good showing of Twilight's organizational skills and had a good payoff in Celestia's reaction. But, the very next day the whole wedding also doesn't matter at all, Fluttershy is right along with them being pointless.
Yes, this was a bit jarring for me. I at least expected someone to say SOMETHING about the wedding when they're in the Library with catatonic Twi, but I suppose now that it's happened Flutters has already moved on with her life lmao, get bent bigmac
The fact that Rarity hasn't once mentioned some sort of ruined honeymoon because of all of this is astonishing

>>39966499
>>39966562
>I don't understand why you're reading Tuna into anything.
No, there was definitely something there, even if it's mostly teasing. I also got that impression, e.g. just from the way they talk to each other. Compare any of Twi-Luna conversations with any of the Luna-Celestia ones. Then you have some more explicit hints such as when they both blush at Twilight misinterpretation of what Luna meant by the spell being very intimate. I also don't think any serious consideration of Tuna was intended as a part of the story, but I don't believe it was all just accidental. It's a Twilestia story, but these two are very close.

>>39966522
>It's so much more nice to read than this one, for me.
They read very differently. I can see why ISC would be -- by most people's standards -- considered to be the more pleasant one to read. I'd even agree with that. Eternal is, for better or worse, intentionally a very chunky story. A slog, some would say. Whether this works to the fic's benefit or not is subjective, but it's nothing like the main part of ISC. Maybe I forgot how wordy the early chapters of ISC were, but one of the biggest highlights of that fic for me was how smoothly it flowed once it got going, wasting no words and no scenes. The whole Crystal Caves infiltration about as many words as chapter 5 of Eternal. You could say makes it a better story, but it's just a different style.
I think that Eternal is good at what it wanted to be. Unless the later chapters ruin, which is always a possibility with the rest of Mane 6 lurking just behind a corner.

https://writing.stackexchange.com/questions/761/the-rules-of-writing
Discuss.

>>39966592
>stackexchange
I'd sooner take advice from the tunigger.

>>39966592
Gay

>>39965441
If you think what he said is stupid, you should just say that. There's no need to make up additional stuff he didn't say and call that stupid too.

What he actually said was:
>I would never agree to upload because I know it's a virtual world
You extrapolated:
>therefore I will be the last human on earth due to my special-snowflake stubbornness and infinite willpower
But I suspect what he actually meant was:
>and most people would agree with me, so it's unrealistic to show 99% of all humanity willingly uploading

>>39965918
I don't know any "depressing reality of TF" fics, but here are a couple where the MC doesn't jump straight to "hooves are all right, guess I'll keep them forever":
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/73404/through-the-well-of-pirene
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/463533/fine-print (kinda)

>>39966928
Anon, you can't reason with him. He's one of those people who treat the events of the story as though they are actual hard fact and that the actions of CelestAI are really done by a hyperintelligent AI rather than just being written by a human. That's why they don't get how anyone could say that people might not upload. They see in the story that effectively everyone would upload and so conclude that everyone would upload because that's what happens in the story. And if you disagree they don't see it as you disagreeing with the human who wrote the story, they see it as you disagreeing with the hyperintelligent AI, therefore you must be wrong. They're basically religious nuts but with a materialist coat of paint and driven by their own autism.

>>39966978
>one of those people who treat the events of the story as though they are actual hard fact and that the actions of CelestAI are really done by a hyperintelligent AI rather than just being written by a human
what the kek

>>39965918
My Little Marriage. Regrettably unfinished. Also the guy last logged on eight months ago and is probably kill.
First Pony View. Also unfinished.
>>39967012
Welcome to LessWrong: the personality cult that pretends to be about reason.

>>39966928
Most people agree with you because it's the status quo. That's waht 99% of people value. The second the status quo and 'common sense' changes, the vast majority of people would go along with it. Most likely you would too.

>>39967012
One time I was talking to someone from LW and they tried to prove an AI would necessarily (no exceptions) know they were in a virtual reality by linking me to a fictional story where an AI found out it was in a virtual reality.

>>39966978
>treat the events of the story as though they are actual hard fact and that the actions of CelestAI are really done by a hyperintelligent AI rather than just being written by a human
Is that not the right approach? You can call out the story as nonsensical and unrealistic, but trying to argue that things in the story would've gone differently is writing fanfiction about fanfiction. You're not the author, even if the guy who wrote a story is an idiot.

>>39967031
So what you're saying is that contrarianism evolved as a social defense mechanism to avoid whole groups going into an evolutionary dead end.
Or, put another way, most people would upload and then the only people left would be those who refused to upload, thus creating a genetic bottleneck which ensures that future humans do not upload due to evolutionary pressure not to.

>>39967031
People won't just suddenly start jumping off bridges because it becomes the "status quo" so why the fuck would they actively risk their own brains by uploading?

>>39967040
The problem is then trying to take that and apply it to the real world and real people. You can say that everyone in the FiO-verse would upload, because they do. But when you take that and use it as evidence that the same thing would happen in real life is when it stops being applicable.

>>39967047
If the status quo somehow was to jump off a bridge then yeah they would. People do al lkinds of stupid self destructive things because it's what society expects.

>>39967047
Because jumping off the bridge has a 10% chance to land you in heaven with everyone you know and you become immortal
>>39967051
I think the evidence is how Celestai gets them to go in, not the fact that they do go in. which is by being smarter than any human and manipulating everyone to get scanned

>>39967055
100%* god my keyboard is dead

>>39967062
Not as much as your brain.

>>39967068
Stay un-uploaded retard. I'll be enjoying the ponies with my better digital brain.

>>39967055
>>39967047
Reminder that a large portion of the planet mutilates the genitals of their own babies because the status quo says to.

>>39967055
Suicides don't go to heaven and people who accept an artificial Equestria don't go to the real Equestria.

>>39967084
Ticketfags don't go to Equestria.

>>39967074
I suppose making cerebral sashimi could hardly lessen your brainpower.

>>39967089
Oh, what part of that was ticketfagging?
All I did was point out that if you go to your digital paradise that you'll never be able to go to the real Equestria.

>>39967106
>what part of saying who can go to Equestria was saying who can go to Equestria?

>>39967110
People who chose not to go to Equestria don't go to Equestria. What part of that is ticketfagging? That's true regardless of whether you're choosing to upload into a digital world, stay here, or choose some completely different world.

>>39967119
How does uploading bar you from going to the real Equestria?

>>39967040
>trying to argue that things in the story would've gone differently is writing fanfiction about fanfiction.
No, it's called having a brain and noticing bad writing. This isn't even about FiO. It's perfectly sensible and even right to see something happening in a piece of fiction and go "based on everything I know, it wouldn't go like that" and if you think that's wrong you're literally the consoomer meme. Being critical of the media you consume is basic mental functioning.

>>39966978
I'm not sure he's quite that bad, but I do wish he would quit making such terrible posts under my waifu's flag.