Welcome friends, ITT:We make and share pony content, be it art, music, games, or something completely different, with absolutely no pressure to deliver anything that's technically good (besides having ponies in it, which makes it good by default)Make something, share what you've done, and give feedback and motivation to help us all keep improving and creatingAre you an experienced artist/musician/gamedev/etc? Leave some tips, feedback, guides, or tutorials, they're well appreciated here!Guides, tutorials and resources! Start here!https://ponepaste.org/8268/bale/ livestreams and workshopshttps://cytu be/r/BaleShack/bale/ shack jitsi call (active during streams and whenever people join it)https://meet.jit.si/baleshackDraw with other /bale/ anons!https://aggie.io/baleShow intro re-animated by /bale/ broshttps://pony.tube/w/dYTchr89pjRsuTkrDuYfb6>but I can't drawhttps://pony.tube/w/1pHASti5v8ZLnLa4NKcMC1Thread reviewhttps://pony.tube/w/er3zxj9ttMjxz9AnY1PGB5Previous thread:>>39851443no new thread after 12 hours is pitiful as fuck. I randomly chose the OP pic.
>>39927744I guess OP is MIA for the moment.Glad to see it back.
OP was murdered by his 40 twi plushies
>>39927840What a way to go
(You) and Sunshower get caught in a sunshower!
>>39927810Cute!>>39927864I really like the way this piece looks. From how you painted the mare to the way you painted the background, looking at it is pleasurable.
This was supposed to be a quick sketch to keep the night theme going, but I was too late.
>>39927864Nice. Saved for referencing water droplets
>>39927864painting is like magic to me
>>39927864I love her name so much. Sunshower. Sun shower. Refreshing. Cool. Energizing. A shower in the sun.
>>39927810reee the thread died while I was on the road, sorry>>39927744thanks for baking, sorry again>>39927840I've never felt more alive>>39927864beautiful and adorable
>>39927840More He got 42 of the IDE alone, plus more twiggies, and customsId say at least 60 Twilights
>>39928496close, but not quite. Let me see...40 4de unicorn twis+2 4de unicorn twis I had before+10 twiggies+1 LS Twi+1 4de alicorn twiso 54 twilight plushieshappy accident that it's 42 4de unicorn twi plushies lolthe ultimate question: how many Twilights must a man buy?my custom plush collection is pretty small, but I think I want to keep it well rounded. Next plush on my list to commission is an LS Rainbowshine
>>39928096Shit happens, I'm the thread guardian of /kinder/ so I'm used to stepping up to the plate.
>>39928729Lunarshine store has more 4de twis of you want 60
>>39928741yep, every thread needs it's autist to stay alive lol>>39928758I would love to just fill my house with them, but unfortunately I don't have the spare cash to throw around right now :/idk I might get more if they still have them in a week or two, but I'm pretty content with what I've got right now
>>39928826No idea how fast they're selling, its $5 each + shipping, clearing out all the plushies
>>39928841yeah, that's why I got 40 of them lol
I had a real frustrating time drawing today. It was just one of those days. Where I looked back to some of my past drawings and wondered "How did I draw those so well only to be doing shit now?". I wanted to draw an officer mare pointing intensely into the distance. But ran into problems I thought I had overcome, like fucking up the hind legs. You can see I put those too far forward and it makes the ass look weird. I erased so many times. Which is a shame cause I wanted to get quicker at drawing. Guess I should do more basic practice again or something. That's what I usually fall back on when my skill disappears.
>>39929432Oh and God the front legs are way to small!
>>39929432I find that redrawing from scratch helps out a bunch.just sketch it out a few times and then choose your favorite to continue from
>>39929432FATTY FAT LARD PONY
>>39929485Don't make fun of my fat ponies!
>>39928729>LS RainbowshineHOly kino
made this for this thread >>39924885
>>39929432The pointmare is cute.
Sooo took the exam today and... it could have been better, but oh well.Anyways, I've tried studying full frontal again and found a 6 month old file of me trying to do the same. It's heartening to see how far I've come. of course I also have to ask myself if I should be further along for the time spend, but eh I've got my excusesThere is so much left to learn though. Have to enjoy the process in the here and now, otherwise I'd go insane and quit.I'm thankful for having this place and you guys around. It's not even so much about the pictures that get posted here for me, but about having anons on similar paths to talk to.
>>39930080It's a tough road friend, but it's a fun experience
>>39928729I think you may like Twilight just a tad too much.
>>39930080holy shit that's a lot of progress for just 6 months, good job dude!
Quick little test of a stylized blanky, let me know what y'all think.
>>39931375This pointy pony has quite the rump! I'd make it slightly small, but that's just personal preference I think. Cute poner, keep it up!
>>39931401>slightly smallfug I meant 'smaller'
>>39931375Arse too big, look good otherwise.
>10Mare be upon ye
>>39931850Pegasi are the best hats.
>>39931401>>39931474less coomerish ass, I had a feeling I made the ass to phat IDK why I didn't just listen to my gut.
>>39932148Needs more butt to balance headjk its better now esp with the thicker legs
I tried to imagine what planes of a show-accurate face could be.This is the result. I didn't use line art for that, trying to sculpt it using values only.Can someone please give some feedback about how much I failed and why?
>>39932810Lack of understanding of said foundation of their shapes. If you can't layer it properly in your mind freebasing will get harder. Especially with paints.
>>39932810Show accurate is very simplistic and 2d imo. It abstracts and simplifies so much information that it's hard to do much with it. Especially painting, which is all about 3d forms and not 2d lines. I really like this guys breakdown of a pony head as 3d shapes. Maybe it will help you too.There are more here: https://dimdock.com/sketch/?folderID=1uiJCFxMLoznEmK7Zu8dNPYbkj1yJCaxzOr you could study 3d models. Anything with more detail than show style.
>>39932911super usefulI will be using these later.Thanks anon.
>>39932810>Can someone please give some feedback about how much I failed and why?You fail at fundamentals. In this case, you don't have an accurate mental image of what show-accurate face looks like. This abomination is what your brain pulls up when you think "show accurate", which means that you fail at the fundamental of "accurately copying what you see". As well a bunch more like circles, symmetry, etc.Solution? Practice more ACTUAL show-accurate faces. Pull up unedited screencaps on your screen and keep redrawing them on paper until they look correct. And practice your fundamentals.
>>39932845>foundation of their shapescan you elaborate a bit more?>>39932911thanks, anon, that looks very interesting
>>39933822Nothing that can't be explained here>>39932911. It just looked liked you tried to mash a bunch of concepts of the pony head shape into one without having a solid understanding. Also tape and some thinner brushes could help with form if you're not confident enough or in most cases patient enough
delivery for the drawthread. im pretty pleased i got a good simple look for her, and i got to cheese in my favorite gun too. tried to have the positive snoot swoop to make it more mare accurate but it ended up kinda boxy. face might be a bit squished too, idk
This weather has me so hyped for camping and stuff. Seems like a good time to try some physical mediums while out there, maybe even wood carving.
>>39934653I saw that
I felt like drawing a pony doing some action today, so I drew this. A tough looking mare bucking a gator. I'm rather happy with it. Only fault might be the usual front and back legs not being the exact same size. And don't ask what I was doing with the mane cause I was winging it.
>>39936262Back legs bending wrong. You're thinking human legs, but pone legs are built different.
>>39936482So the legs should be straighter with the thighs further turned instead?
>>39936516can't post an image properly either
>>39936585when you post an image to 4chan, exif data gets stripped, getting rid of the rotation without "applying" itphones always save pictures in landscape orientation, along with an extra value to tell how the phone was oriented when the picture was taken (this value is stored in the exif data, extra data saved with each image that can store things like geolocation, camera model, aperture, white balance, etc. 4chan posts your picture without any of the metadata to help keep people from doxxing themselves accidentally)this saves a lot of trouble in programming the camera stuff, and makes it easier to do some other stuff with your phone that I won't get into right now>ok, so how do I rotate it?easiest way to get rid of the exif data (or at least the rotation part of it) on a picture taken by a phone is to just crop or otherwise edit the image a tiny bit. It'll save a new version of that image that has the rotation "applied" as an actual part of the image (and most pictures can usually benefit from a tiny bit of cropping anyway)on a computer (specifically windows), I've found the easiest way to strip metadata is to right click on an image and click "Edit". This opens it in MS paint, then you just need to hit the save button in the top left and the image is all good to go (also can help reduce filesize a bit, sometimes. depends on a few factors but it's worth a try if your image is 4.01 mb or something)tldr: crop your pictures before you post them. It'll look better without the bedsheets on the edges anywayall we care about is the art, not what your room or your feet looks like
>>39936633>tldr: crop your pictures before you post them. It'll look better without the bedsheets on the edges anywayThanks for the guide, I didn't even know about exif data.
>>39936534Aye. Backwards motion of that leg mostly happens at the hip.
>>39937143cute twiggy piggy
Here's two tutorials I came across while scraping.https://www.deviantart.com/dawnf1re/art/Tutorial-how-I-draw-lineless-427322138https://www.deviantart.com/dawnf1re/art/Simple-shading-tutorial-368423228
Still fixing how I draw bodies. I’ve been really lazy as of late, so I haven’t been drawing as much as usually do.
I was bored and sketched Starlight into a blank page of my school notebook.
>>39938656And Sweetie Belle as well.
If anyone's around I'd love some critique on this piece before I start rendering. Cadence is meant to be leaning on Shining
>>39938656>>39938660FREITAG!!!! Very nice, looks cute
>>39938665forgot her wings is all i can really point out
>>39936516Cool! >>39938656What, no homework for tomorrow? Well done poners!>>39938665Maybe a bit stiff with her legs. She looks like she is tipping over.
Alright, added color. Cadences hair is fucking wacky.Critique welcome>>39938764THESE DAMN ALICORNSThanks dude>>39938788Intentional, sort of!
>>39939257Hope that helps. Just my opinion.
>>39939350>Anon: She's lifting her tail too high.>Shining: Looks okay to me!
Not as crazy as wanting to learn how to draw. Can't even draw an astronaut mare y_y
cleared the canvas at https://aggie.io/baleBackups:https://files.catbox.moe/ikc685.psdhttps://files.catbox.moe/6plqea.pngman I love numget
>>39940552>cleared the canvas at https://aggie.io/baleI'm not sure you did, friend.
>>39940702crap I'm retardedcleared for real now, thanks
Wanted to do more difficult poses today. I just hope I didn't go to far and make a pose that isn't possible. It's Flutter's front facing forward with her rear end out to the side. Has some trouble with the one back leg but managed the rest.
Decided I wanted to try my hand at stallions today, couldn't decide who I wanted to draw. Went and indulged in self ponification faggotry instead. couldn't decide on a cutie mark, it's either that or a homebrew setup
How can I fix the shading?
I was bored and decided to ponfy my Dragon Age: Origins mage. The expression is weird because I tried to combine aspects of “sad” and irritated. Long story short: she was deceived by a friend, forced to leave home, willing let herself get possessed by a demon to save someone, and is confronting him again.
Been a bit since I last drew her, so here's a Brook. Her ears are a tad too big in this one.Just recently figured out that the 'airbrush soft' brush isn't half bad for blush. I'll try to mess with it more often.Lots of pones I could be drawing, hopefully I pick up the pace.
>>39943624I'm not too good with shading myself, but to me the candles don't look like they're illuminating enough. They don't stand out very much, yet are apparently bright enough to cast that shadow on Inky's face.I will say that I do love the concept as a fellow Inky Rose enjoyer.
>>39944483>Her ears are a tad too big in this one.They could be bigger
>>39942029Looks good, poses are pretty difficult to execute, even more so when you're trying to do an creative pose. Do always keep construction and perspective in mind when doing it.
>>39944502I upped the contrast here. I think this is what I'll go for as the final version
>>39944879Who turned off the lights
>>39927744im not sure why i drew thisbut i drew thisanyways non fan favorite background chaeacters deserve more love
>>39944483The soft and subtle color gradient doesn't really fit the flat colored style IMO.>>39942371No horn or wings? Based farming enjoyer?>>39944057Tragic story. She looks the part too
>>39945388>>No horn or wings?Didn't think of being a horn head, really the only big benefit of being a unicorn is telekinesis. Unless you make yourself a Twiggles tier unicorn which i'm not about to do anytime soon, If I'm gonna indulge in power fantasy I want my character to earn it. As for wings fuck no I'm afraid of heights, what's the point of having wings if I'm just gonna hover around like flutterbutter? >>Based farming enjoyer?Yes, The cost of food savings and the quality would make up some for not having hands anymore. Plus the potential for super strength or even above average strength would be nice. Most of the earth ponies seem to function just fine in equestrian society.
>>39945488>what's the point of having wings if I'm just gonna hover around like flutterbutter? You should tell that to all the "muh flightless pegasus"/"muh broken horn unicorn" OCs.
>>39945516Are such OC's really that prevalent? Forgive my ignorance I don't tend to delve into OC's or their backstories much, I only save OC's that I think are cute and that's rare. Why do they do it? Is it a half assed attempt at trying to give the OC some sort of defining character trait without having to put in the effort to write a good likeable personality, or maybe a way to inject some sort of tragic backstory and gain audience sympathy, without having to write one? I'm honestly vexed at the thought. Maybe they just want a super speshul snowflake OC because their boring IRL, or they just suck with writing a character?
>>39945641flightless pegasus and broken horn unicorn is about as done to death as ultra op alicornpersonally idrc but i know some people get ultratriggered
>>39945641They're fairly frequent, just like alicorn OCs aka "I can't decide what I want" or as the other guy said "muh power".>Why do they do it?>halfassed attempt at character without personality>tragic backstory without backstoryBoth? Both. Both is good.In at least one case the answer is "the creator has no idea why, either".
>>39945488>Unless you make yourself a Twiggles tier unicornHell yeah! I have no false modesty. That's what I'd want.>Maybe they just want a super speshul snowflake OC because their boring IRLOf course! Why would anyone fantasize about a character going to their 9 to 5?I do like problem solving in stories so it is important that there are limits to special powers. There has to be some sort of conflict. An OP character is as boring as a normie farmer pony that never does anything interesting. I don't want to read about someone defeating the big bad with no effort in time for lunch, and I also don't want to read about the difficulties of tulip planting.
>>39945843>and I also don't want to read about the difficulties of tulip planting.Take off your mare, faggot. You don't deserve Roseluck.
Anon filly robotic
>>39945894looks p. cool
>>399458671v1 me faggot>>39945894Really cool! Love what you did with her mane.
>>39945759I simply roll a series of dice to determine the properties of my OCs. Observe: 1d4 (Tribe) = 3 (Pegasus), 1d2 (Sex) = 1 (Mare), 1d20 (Coat) = 20 (Pink), 1d20 (Mane) = 1 (Orange), 1d20 (Eyes) = 16 (Purple), 1d8 (Accessory) = 5 (Hat), 1d6 (Marking/Pattern) = 5 (Plain), 1d8 (Trait) = 4 (Heterochromia)Behold: an OC
>>39945966>she went through the entire bag again
>>39946020That's the subtlest heterochromia I've ever seen. Respect. I knew that took restraint
>>39945894How does she charge?
>>39945516What's the point of making an oc?They are always over designed and don't look like background charactersWho the fuck read character bios?
>>39946179Are you asking what the point of having characters is? Are... You insane?
>>39946214cute morphin mare
>>39946214Custom mare for all your mare needs!
>>39946175Shove a cord down her throat
>>39946214Amazing gif, very mesmerizing
>>39946179The secret to a successful franchise is a self insertion system. You set some parameters and let people go wild with original characters. For example, with MLP, you have a choice between unicorns, pegasi, or earth ponies. Then you decide on a cutie mark and a mane style. There are guidelines in place, but there's enough creative space for you to embellish. It allows you to express yourself in the confines of a community.Another example of course is Harry Potter and its houses. Or Homestuck and its troll shit. Then there's fursonas, of course. Hell, Dungeons and Dragons is also based on this very concept.This has almost nothing to do with what you're asking, but it's something to think about if you want to make your own world and have people go nuts about it.
>>39946179its a pass to make fan content that goes beyond the standard characters. good for learning character design and writing. come on son, look at the bigger picture
Anon is getting a bit handsy with marble.>>39945894Forgot to reply, but this is sick as fuck!
Just messing around with posing
bros I found this weird pink cat outside and now it won't leave me alone, wat do??
>>39946948 >MA! There's a weird fucking cat outside!>I don't want it starting a fight with lucy!
>>39947251Revisiting an old character. I don’t have access to the more refined versions as I reference, so I just used the original. Also I finally figured out why no matter what I do I can’t see to get the limbs to look dynamic; will try to implement it next time.
>>39948219I realized I’ve been drawing a lot of angry, sad, and battle-ready ponies lately so I tried doing something a little more wholesome. Still experimenting with expressions.
These eyes are derpy right? Argh, I spend so much time one these only to look back and realize it's wrong. When I zoom in for too long the lines loose meaning and that's probably the issue. Also I'm doing something wrong with the highlights. They always look bad. Not sure why. Are they to simplistic maybe? Or too elongated? Anyone any thoughts?
>>39948663These are my suggestions. try to make the eye shines more symmetrical whether you do so like >pic related or elongating the other on either would help balance it out.
>>39948644is that anonfilly? cute! saved.
>>39948832>Yes that anonfilly? Yes.>cute! saved.Thanks.
Bumping before bed
>>39940552That applejack is hilarious
>>39927744>/bale/ livestreams and workshops>https://cytu be/r/BaleShackBALE STREAM UPDATEwhoops I never made a stream anchor post this thread, oh wellWe've got a time and date for the stream on developing good habits!this Friday, May 26th at 6pm GMT (that's right, a euro hours stream! (that's 2pm EDT btw)), we're going to have a TED-talk style advice stream on forming good drawing habits! (like how to get yourself to draw more often, how psychology ties in with drawing, etc. It'll be applicable to just about any kind of creative endeavor too, not just drawing!)I'm excited for this one, it's shaping up to be really good! pic related is a little sneak peek from the anon running itsee you guys there!
>>39950374Can't wait! I need it. Once I draw something I feel accomplished, but my brain throws all kinds of excuses in my way to prevent me from even starting.
>>39940552>https://aggie.io/baleGet in here
aggie micro mare zoomed an enhanced for your viewing pleasure
>>39948813Hmh, I feel like I've seen the highlight being smaller on the further away eye a lot. Ehhh whatever... I'll just start over or move on to the next pic>>39950374Someone's read Kahneman. I'll look forward to the talk. Looks high effort. Can recommend John verveake's excellent series on YouTube if you found kahneman interesting. Hmh, so I've recently read that there are two kinds of artists. Those who like doing the drawing and those who like being an artist. Doing vs being. The latter ones usually don't make it. Got me to think about if I really like the doing part of drawing. Not sure if i missed drawing much if I couldn't anymore. That's bad right? Feels like it. If I could draw amazingly well right now, i wouldn't really know what to do with that. Anyone else feel that way? What would (you) draw if you had the skill to draw whatever you wanted?
Going to get a little faggy but I wish bale had been around 10 years ago. So many people would be great artists today if they had got a little support.
I haven't drawn much in the past month, but I decided to crank this out today. It's looking a little shit, but whatever. Ponies are harder to draw than they look.>>39951010I'm glad that /bale/ exists RIGHT NOW when I decided to get back into ponies and also finally draw. It unironically pushed me to start doing it.
>>39951010Am just happy /bale/ exists at all,>>39951409Really cute Jacky,
>>39951409I felt like drawing again today and continuing my panel redraws, this time of a classic. I used a more interesting brush for this one.
>>39951010The entire internet was /bale/ back in 2010.
Still working on everything since the corrections.
>>39952012cute twiggy piggy
>>39950374fuuuuck, i cant show up to the stream then. you boys better have a crispy vod for me to watch at least.>>39951010ive struggled a lot over the years to start learning to draw, and i found this a while after i did, but im still happy its here now. i couldnt even imagine 2012 /mlp/ energy with /bale/
Finally drew some hooves in this drawing as well as a chubby below view of Milky . The hind legs took me a bit to figure out how to do, but I looked at others artwork on the subject and figured it out. Also my first time drawing crotchboobs so I hope they don't look to weird. https://files.catbox.moe/uvyeyy.jpg
>>39952947Fun picture. Really captures the feel of a presence from above.
>>39952947The weirdness cant be denied. Looks more like she is a stallion if you get what I mean. A stallion ogling proudly at his massive balls.I kinda love it for it's weirdness. This is truly unique, in an interesting way.
>>39953375That's unfortunate. It certainly wasn't what I was going for. I'll try drawing them differently next time.
>>39953397Maybe try normal sized ones as practice before doing the exaggerated ones. It's a really hard perspective for oversized teats anyways. Much easier to draw them from a sideways perspective I'd imagine.
>>39948663Left eye bigger than right eye
So it turns out not all mares appreciate silly caricatures.
Should I use the selection tool mid drawing to edit my line work or is that something that should be avoided at all costs in order to get better?
>>39955375no rules, just toolsI've seen other, more experienced artists do it a bunch, especially in the sketching phaseif you're using digital tools might as well take advantage of them
>>39955379Alright, I'll do that, thank you for the quick reply.
Since my own birthday is coming up. I wanted to draw my favorite mare celebrating it. Tried to draw her sitting back a bit here. Also she's chubby again sorry. I blame the cake. I will make a concerted effort to put my mares on a diet and make some thinner ones in the future. Truthfully it's the fault of always making the bottom construction circle too big on my part.
>>39955700Happy (almost) birthday>I wanted to draw my favorite mare celebrating it.She'll even sing to youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdSbklW_5I
>air conditioner broke>desire to draw diminished by humid, stuffy airI wish a waterpone would come along and give cold hugs :(
>>39955375lasso and smudge tools are common to use, my advice is to use them during the sketch phase to keep the final lines as high quality as possible
>>39952012Messing with poses>>39952565Thanks
>>39957054Here are a few suggestions. pink is what I think would look a little bit better. also your legs on the far side are quite thick compared to the ones closest to the viewer. whether you choose to leave them as is or thin them out is up to you. other than that you did pretty good she a cute.
>>39957067/bale/ is the nicest thread on this website, it's a nice break from having to be an asshole 24/7.
>>39956595I usually don't even sketch and just skip straight away to the "final" lines with the exception of some face references. Should I always be sketching before doing proper lineart?
>>39957210That's called "soul"
>>39957210not everyone needs to sketch per say, but i feel like its a good way to get some fundies involved when your new and all that, and to make things a bit more coherent. if im just drawing goofy stuff i probably wont sketch, and all the big fancy artist peoples sketches look more like finished pieces anyway, so its all case by case.
>>39957210I like to sketch and I sketch much more than do line art. It's fun to not have to worry about making perfect lines. Sketching comes in really handy if you start trying to understand 3d forms and apply construction to stuff. Would be a huge hassle to delete all those helper lines that are only there to give my brain the illusion of 3d choice. Construction in turn helps you draw whatever pose you want without looking it up. I've been told it's a must for learning to draw from imagination. All that said, I do admire people who can just draw a cute pony without all that prep work in one go. That's very impressive to me.pls ignore the bad anatomy here on the legs. oof
>>39957563>on the legsGeneral problems to be aware of:>eyes are too close>hoof sizes are severely mismatched>"bulbous" anatomy, that is, curves where there would be none, too pronounced transitions between distinct "parts" you sketched out>misunderstanding hindlegs giving rise to the part in the middle>trapezoid head shape is a severe departure from show style a.k.a. general appeal>>it also makes ponies look like frontal view of geeseyou're referencing off baronengel, aren't you>pointy furry ears>>while real horses can have the upwards tip, it's not anywhere this pronounced and is formed by the middle part of the ear, i.e. can't be separate from both edges>I've been told it's a must for learning to draw from imagination. Construction is secondary to understanding the "essence" of the thing. Sure, it helps, but without understanding what makes ponies look pony (humans human, trees tree, etc etc) it will be, at best, look off, and at worst it will be carefully constructed abominations, while someone who firmly grasps the concept of pony will have beautiful art even if his technical skills are lacking. Though obviously not if they're lacking to the point of being unable to maintain consistency.Studying actual skeleton and muscular frame (horse and cat, in case of ponies) helps immensely with understanding how things work, where the surface will stretch or compress, etc.
Oh cool! Thanks for the critique! I will try and work with that once I get off work.Idk who baronegel is. Honest! Currently, using dimdock's as anatomy reference. Agreed that the essence is important. Expert artist don't even need constructing familiar subjects anymore. Dimdock can skip the head circle completely and just draw the correct curves just like that. All the lines are in his head! But I feel like it's a great learning tool to get to that point. Since I don't do shading yet, it's the only way to make forms appear 3d.
>>39957670>using >>39932911 as anatomical referenceNotice how his frontal views are still roughly circular, not trapezoid. And you must not forget that Dimfann does semi-anthro rather than pony by default, thus human shoulders, human pecs, and vastly reduced ribcage. You have to actively seek out arts like this one for actually-pony anatomy. Or study actual IRL anatomy like he did to understand not just how he does things, but why.>Since I don't do shading yetWhich is a mistake you will pay for dearly. Do everything, not necessarily in the same art but everything, from the get-go: sketches, lines, shading, coloring, rendering etc, or you will end up with mismatched quality (e.g. good lineart but awful shade) because you've had lopsided practice.
>>39957684Could you please critique this drawing too?https://ufile.io/bycvj6wbYou don't have to click the link if you don't trust it, but I'm IP range banned from uploading files for some reason and since smutty horse is down, this was the only way I found to circumvent this problem.Thanks in advance.
>>39957684Yeah, I really should study more realistic horse stuff at some point... Idk my excuse is that I'm still in the get to know your tools well phase. Someday though definitely. >shadingI don't know how to start really. I follow drawabox and that doesn't include shading. I always planned to just finish that and then do another course for the rest. Shading just seems so complicated and unapproachable. I know the theory of light pretty well from working in computer graphics, but that's about it. What do you think is a good way to aquire the basics so that I don't start with no idea and no clue and no technique on how to approach it?
>>39957638>Though obviously not if they're lacking to the point of being unable to maintain consistency.Aw fuck, I was feeling a little cocky until this part. Sometimes I feel like my first drawing may have been my best and then I got mixed up as soon as I had some confidence. Maybe I just need to do something at max effort again.
>>39957104>Here are a few suggestions.Thanks. I drew that on Sunday and have been drawing all week, so it will be a while before you see them take effect. >also your legs on the far side are quite thick compared to the ones closest to the viewer. whether you choose to leave them as is or thin them out is up to you.No, I have problem with limb width changing as I move them.
>>39957929>>No, I have problem with limb width changing as I move them.Oh no I was talking about that picture specifically. sorry should have clarified.What kind of pencil do you use? I used to draw physical media too a while ago, and if you don't mind I'd like to give you some tips. pun intended
>>39957712>I don't know how to start really.Just do it.No, seriously.Put some hatching in the areas that "are" shaded, for example. Or cover them up with a darker and hue-shifted: warm lights make for cold shadows, cold lights make for warm shadows splotch/layer instead of hatching when working with color.Or if you're rendering/painting outright rather than doing flats, starting with the already darker color and adding the light. Improves contrast, since it's easier to imagine "places where the light is hitting" rather than "places where the light is NOT hitting".>What do you think is a good way to aquire the basics so that I don't start with no idea and no clue and no technique on how to approach it?Same way as everything else - look at something then try to replicate how it looks. The closer to reality your source is, the better - getting to your nearest horse ranch with a sketchbook is better than looking at photos of horses is better than looking at someone else's drawings of horses.>>39957924Consistency being stuff like characters being same relative size to each other and environment in different shots, legs (and other mirror parts) being same perceived length, etc. Not being able to output exact same quality again and again like a machine, that not only comes later, but also requires enough self-awareness to MAINTAIN the style rather than over time exaggerating it more and more for reasons.>Sometimes I feel like my first drawing may have been my best and then I got mixed up as soon as I had some confidenceYour ability to draw art and ability to estimate quality of your art are playing leapfrog with each other, as they do with most everyone else.
>>39957983>What kind of pencil do you use? A mechanical pencil.
>>39957708Catbox.moe is commonly used for such things. It's what this anon used for example: >>39952947>>39958085>Just do it.really?>No, seriously.Okay then... When ever I produce the next not-ugly sketch I'll try. >getting to your nearest horse ranchI could actually do that lol. It's in walking distance for me. Just need to find the motivation to do it, because I really don't care about drawing horses lol
>>39955700happy early birthday bro! hope your okay with a chocolate cake.
>>39958236Oh man thanks. Chocolate cake is actually my favorite. Flutters knew just what to get!
Not sure if I drew her correctly but I tried, a little
>>39958283i love her
>>399582170.5, 0.7, or 2.0?
>>39958217Alright, Id recommend getting some harder lead for sketching out your base shapes/constructions. Hard lead makes very light very easy to erase lines that don't smudge, this will help you get a nicer end product and allow you to tweak your lines to your hearts content. I'd recommend trying a minimum of 2H lead for your construction and then lining over with regular HB lead and seeing how you like the results. I'd also recommend this article as well, its a very easy to understand and comprehensive article. https://www.interwell.cn/the-complete-guide-to-graphite-pencil-lead-grade Knowing your pencils and lead is key to getting great results with physical media. >>39958273glad you like it!
>>39958283you did great!
>>39958283a wonderful qt, great job!
>>39958415>>39958442ye, np. another word of advice with hard lead would be to have a very light touch, barely touch the paper with it. It will leave ruts in the paper where you draw with it even if you use moderate force.
>>39958447I struggle with line control, but it’s one of the many things I’m working on.
>>39950374stream tomorrow woooo
>>39958783You do any exercises or do you just draw pone? maybe consider some of these exercises https://thevirtualinstructor.com/blog/10-exercises-for-confident-lines-and-accurate-hatchingor doing a little 5-10 min warm up before jumping into drawing. When I drew IRL I would never do any of that and I'd always sit there and wonder why my lines looked so fuzz and wobbly lmao.
Who inspires you, /bale/? Not as in "which drawfag would you shamelessly fellate in the middle of Catholic mass", but who do you look at that gives you the desire to draw even when you really don't want to?
>>39959021None, just my sheer autistic love of mares and creation motivates me.
>>39959021So far, I use drawing to procrastinate from other things I should be doing, which is how I motivate myself. I just do productive things that aren't actually my main goal so I can procrastinate on that.On the other hand, I find AnonTheAnon's absurd level of animation and art skills to be somewhat inspiring.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0uMCrahRFo
>>39958961I used to practice drawing simple shapes with both arms everyday. I only stopped because I took a month break and never got back into the habit.
>>39959049Originally it was the porn, now I wish to create soul. Someday hopefully I can do both at the same time. When I'm lacking discipline though I imagine my future self and waifu being disappointed that I consumed instead of created. It kinda works but usually I end up exercising instead because it's less intimidating and mentally taxing.
>>39959021Not really anyone in particular but instead when I go about seeing something cute (generally appealing to one's sense of appeal), the idea that, that person who's image I'm currently looking at could make something joyous shows that, that ability/skill to draw something of that nature could be learned by someone. Thus by that logic one could go about learning how to make something of that nature, (more-so the idea that if they could do it why couldn't I).(Gosh I really used a lot of double that's in this)
>>39959021I just don't like not feeling like I'm moving somewhere in life. I mean this can't be all there is to it, right?>>39959240>I imagine my future self and waifu being disappointedThat's a lot of pressure. /sun/ is full anon's whining about not being good enough for their imaginary princess waifu. But hey, they also don't do anything about it.> I end up exercising insteadStill a win.
>>39959021Others don't really inspire me to just get up and draw. I just like ponies, and that's usually enough for me. If anything, I'm the opposite, where good art sometimes makes me jealous and want to not draw. I wish I knew how to stop feeling that way.
>>39959021sometimes some kim jung gi art will put me in the mood, but honestly, nobody really inspires me. inspiration is spur of the moment, you cant farm it like you can (You)s
Derpy in the USPS.
>>39960053well I mean it is anon filly we're talking about
doodles before sleep
>>39960053Other things done today. Apologies for lack of quality, I haven't been drawing for a while
Fae!Been a hot minute since I've sat down and drew her, so I went ahead and did a side view. For once, her mane actually looks similar to what it does from the front, like if you were to rotate her in a circle, it would actually make a bit of sense instead of it seeming like an entirely different manestyle. So I guess that's a step in the right direction.Maybe one day I'll go ahead and make a gif of that since I like the idea.>>39958849Wait a minute... I know that mare!>>39959021I don't really have anyone in particular. I guess I've been motivated simply by the desire to make my pones a reality, be it by drawing, or by writing.
>>39960127cute>>39960178>>Apologies for lack of quality, I haven't been drawing for a while>still draws cute good quality artlooks good to me>>39960420cute grey mare
>>39927744I just started drawing poners
>>39960775That's a really good start!
>>39960775That's pretty good for a first poner, her wing is a bit too high and there's a little wonkiness going on in the rear legs. But other than you gave it a solid go.
>>39960775Wow that's nice
>>39960790Thank you my fellow flutterbutter enthusiast!! I actually never touched drawing mares, or pony’s in general cause I felt I wasn’t gonna be able to do good enough, but I was really happy with how this came out, and I’m working on another image on tablet with the new found inspiration to draw! Here’s the WIP of the other one, but any advice would be welcome
>>39960799>>39960803Thanks guys I’m really happy rn! I always thought my artstyle was too gross and odd to make pretty mares, but I just had to give it a go to see that I was wrong, and I’m excited to make many more mares from now on!!
>>39960775>>39960811pure talent keep going anonyou can have a very good art future!
>>39960811There's not much advice to give here since the sketch is incomplete, but on first impression, the show style works a lot with circles while yours appears a bit square. But otherwise its fine.
>>39960819>>I always thought my artstyle was too gross and odd to make pretty mares, but I just had to give it a go to see that I was wrongNot at all your style is actually quite nice looking, once you get the anatomy down it's going to be even better. It's also good to see that you're okay with criticism.>>and I’m excited to make many more mares from now on!!Good that's always a great thing to hear! Welcome to /bale/ I hope you stay!
>>39960829Thankfully it’s digital so I can round her eyes a bit more. I do see what you mean though her eyes are more rectangular>>39960832I’m happy to be here, and i don’t see myself stopping now after hearing all your guys kind words
Did some fluttershy eyes while on lunch break. Kind fudged up the top left eye, but I like doing butters eyes they have a fun shape to draw
>>39961089please see >>39936633
>>39961104My apologies I will make sure to properly crop my images in future posts. Sorry
>>39961104Here’s the drawing I did that I then made into the WIP I posted here>>39960811Hopefully I did it right but if not I’ll just delete and try again so I get how to crop it better
>>39950374/bale/ stream starts at the top of the hour, sorry to all the euros that got confused because of daylight savings crap, here's a countdown to helphttps://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/4150978/i-hate-timezonessee you there https://cytu be/r/BaleShack
>>39961135Wish I could make it. I will be eagerly awaiting the vod
>>39950374>>39961135stream live now!https://cytu be/r/BaleShackadd the dot between the u and the b
>Forgot about the streamGuess I'll just rewind, whatever.
Was watching the /bale/ stream while doing this so I wasn't as daring with trying something new. But I feel obligated to draw something during thses streams.
>>39950374stream was good, here's the vodhttps://pony.tube/w/jXtTacSTUMk9mTLfvNQvZBand here's the presentation on it's own too if anyone wants ithttps://files.catbox.moe/ugp72n.pdfwe're just hanging out in the aggie drawing for a bit now, drop in there or the cytube and hang out with us
>>39961550I still dont agree with the idea that real raw natural talent doesn't exist BUT I did enjoy the talks about system 1 & 2 and the routine loops of (un)creativity and some ideas how to change them.
Itty Bitty Mare added
>>39961943Use the lines to make square filly
>Catching up on the stream>Learning psychology using poniesFinally, a way for even me to understand
>>39961986based, cute filler
a certain ponkfag forced me to draw this during the stream
An MLP version of a Beyblade called “Galaxy Pegasus.” I know next to nothing about the source material, I just saw ab AMV involving it and thought it looked cool. The thing behind it is meant to be a spiral galaxy, I messed up by not practicing spirals or looking up what a spiral galaxy actually looked up before hand.
>>39962901Here is another drawing of the same character. This was taken directly from the AMV: https://youtu.be/SWtSdMCIT9E1:53. I figured it would be easy because all the anatomy was already there; boy, was I wrong. I got so caught up in getting the legs right that I forgot to angle the head.
felt like doing something a bit silly today
>>39964587What's up with the neckbeard?
>>39964759whiskers, horses also have whiskers on their chins and I wanted to make her look extra horsey.
>>39964778New thing learned. Thanks!
>>39957638Studied the critique by redrawing the pose a bunch of times. I wanna say I learned something even if I failed to produce something as good as that the red-lining.Noticed that I still struggle with proportions. I tend to draw the head to big for the body. Also keep getting stumped when drawing her tail. Keep forgetting in which direction those triple spirals go.I think a big reason why #1 looks so bad is that I used to wrong brush for the task. Downloaded a new one and used that from #3 onwards. It's much nicer to sketch with even if it sometimes prevents me from doing fast strokes because of it's speed function.
>>39964982>even if I failed to produce something as good as that the red-lining.Because you don't have the practice. Don't get discouraged over it, though, my first drawings looked worse.>I tend to draw the head to big for the bodyPractice drawing same-sized and smoothly-changing-size circles (draw two parallel/converging lines, draw a bunch of circles so that each touches both lines and the adjacent circle. Oh, and is actually circular obviously.) for that.You can use identical circles to base proportions off of; canon mare proportions have the body almost or if you don't consider buttcheeks part of the body, exactly as long as the head-circle is wide, and roughly 5/8 as tall - if you want to fit those, you just need to make the body taller and shorten the neck slightly, because in your case (sketches 3 and 4) the body is exactly half as tall as the head.Regarding foreleg connection to the body, don't forget that it's simplified horse anatomy still - the protruding bit (which is the shoulder-equivalent: the joint between the humerus and the scapula) should be higher and its lower end should be pointing backwards. Fun anatomical fact: horses, like most quadrupeds, do not have a joint between their forelegs and the rest of the skeleton - it's a fully muscular suspension, which is both why they can easily land on the forelegs, and why they can't really move them sideways. The connection in species that have it is done via the collarbone a.k.a. clavicle, which is vestigial for species that don't lift forelegs sideways, hence why it's not even always connected (cats have a floating one, being well on the way to losing it). Which incidentally means ponies with their ridiculous foreleg mobility would have it.>>39957708Definitely use catbox or similar, ufile doesn't even open for me.
What's the best way to go about getting cooler, muted colors for an overcast, rainy day? Drawing normally and then throwing a grayish/blueish overlay over the image, or messing with the all the colors themselves?
>>39965603Good question. Short answer: yes, filters are fun. Long answer: Fully depends on the picture, since overcast lighting mainly fucks with the range of colors and the definition of shapes in a scene.
>>39965603>bestFor getting gud? Messing with the colors.For the looks? ALSO messing with the colors.You'll need to do that anyway because overcast doesn't just give you a different range of colors, it also covers everything in diffuse light, which means no hard shadows and much narrower value range.Oh, and different materials are affected differently by that too, so you can't just slap exact same filter overlay on both matte and reflective surfaces.An overlay works as a "cheat" way to accomplish it if you can't get it to look right by messing with colors and cannot spare any more effort for that particular pic, though.
>>39965588https://files.catbox.moe/e6qzpo.PNGside note: i drew different body types on purpose
>>39966025Ears, despite the frontal look missing the skull-line, go on the back.Remember that parallel lines always stay parallel - since hindlegs are the same, their curves should also be the same, just slightly resized and shifted to account for perspective.Fat Bon isn't fully in profile, the other cheek should be visible through the mouth. Also, that's not where nostrils go. Her hindlegs are a bit too "even", it looks better if they smoothly vary in width.Wings are best studied separately and intentionally, they're complex.The show gleefully ignores physicality of the snout for most angles smaller than 3/4, if you opt to not do that, remember that you don't have to connect the mouth to the curve or draw most of the vertical side... but you DO have to end the mouth where said vertical side "is".
>>39966204Those lines make the drawing so much better. I love those eyes and ears.Thank you for the visual reference. When I redraw it should I do it mirrored according to your changes, or maybe from both sides in order to learn better? What do you recommend?Also those references in Bon's chest for the hooves are a bit- confusing for me, could you please explain your thought process behind them?
Ban lifted! pony time!hay y'all good to be back>made a drawing for the next bale thread?did not know what I was doing but I am pleased with it>>39950992never heard about doing vs being, can't really wrap my head around why u would not enjoy the process of drawing>Not sure if i missed drawing much if I couldn't anymore. That's bad right?yes I would think so, does drawing poners really not give u anything? if not then you could still contribute by using ai art>What would (you) draw if you had the skill to draw whatever you wanted?I would be a pillar of the community and never stop making pony content of all kinds, sort of like now but ya know less shit>>39958283very cute!>>39958961doing exercises are boring and thus I wont do them I rather learn by making more complex ponies>>39959021/bale is good but aggie have been doing wonders for me actually, its great to draw with regulars as well as newcomers. almost to a fault as I miss the company when I draw alone.>>39959346every ideal is also a judge artfags like anontheanon are fantastic but they won't bring the same flare as you would, u sit on ideas that are unique to you and I for one would love to see those made real so just stick to ur guns>>39960811my advice to u is to hop in on aggie and draw with me, your style is very cute>>39964587kek two paws away from a kangaroo mouse thus dangerously close to furry>>39966025looks nice anon, I think both pony need more work on facial expression u should not lean on symbols or sweat to convey feelings
>>39966333Mirroring is there to see errors easier. Draw in whatever orientation suits the resulting scene, but flip it periodically to check for mistakes.>references in Bon's chest for the hoovesThe blue is very rough construction for where the other foreleg should originate. The red ovals are potential positions of the leg plus the "top of ribcage" slice that I didn't bother continuing as it's not necessary.
>>39965588>Don't get discouraged over it, though, my first drawings looked worse.I'm not, just being real. If I'd be content with the result I'd stop growing. Also I don't think these count as first drawings anymore... oof>Practice drawing same-sized and smoothly-changing-size circles (draw two parallel/converging linesI have so made so many of these as part of daily drawabox warmups. Muscle memory from those doesn't transfer to digital sadly. Id probably benifit from doing the digital too, but damn it's such a chore *excuses* *excuses*>roughly 5/8 as tallImma have to get my calculator for this, heh. >Fun anatomical factWhoa, I did not know that.>>39966336>why U would not enjoy the process of drawingDrawing is just hard. At least for me. It takes continuous concentration and thought. It can be exhausting and then the end result doesn't match all that effort. May have whined a bit too much in that post though. I'm prone to that.>I would be a pillar of the communityHmh, just do it because you want to. That's the only way for long term happiness. Like, it doesn't matter of the community is dying if you aren't doing things for appreciation and views.
>>39966417>Muscle memory from those doesn't transfer to digital sadly.It should. Are you using mismatched tablet and screen resolution ratio? If yes there should be an option in tablet settings to force correct ratio (though at the cost of losing usage of part of the tablet).>I have so made so many of theseYour picrel is all ovals, not circles.
>>39966502>It should.Really? Idk. I've heard it differently and I definitely notice a difference in accuracy between analog and digital.>Are you using mismatched tablet and screen resolution ratio?Nope. Made that mistake only once. >Your picrel is all ovals, not circles.Some are circle, but yeah most are ovals. That's just the nature of these exercises.
>>39966417With digital (at least personally) I feel that one goes about developing a type of muscle memory to the general feel of the digital tool they use (tablet typically) and once one gets accustom to their set up in question then muscle memory flows between physical and digital extremely well(Based this on how starting of digitally everything was just drawn so much worse than on paper, but after getting out of my honeymoon period with the tablet [alongside just learning more in general with both drawing and the software being used] flowing between both became fairly smooth)So even if it doesn't feel like muscle memory isn't transferring digitally, eventually there will be a point where flowing slowly becomes easier and easier just by having time between using the tools. (Time really can be a wonder drug sometimes)
>>39966417I agree that drawing is mentally taxing and unless one learn to draw fast it will take a lot of time, some of my works have taken 4-8 hours if I go in blind without any refs but then its kinda like your solving a puzzle which is fun on its own>May have whined a bit too much in that post though. I'm prone to that.no worry my guy shit be frustrating sometimes>Hmh, just do it because you want to. That's the only way for long term happiness.weird thing to say on here, I can't think of anything that could make me happier then making oc for me and everypony>Like, it doesn't matter if the community is dying if you aren't doing things for appreciation and viewsI get what your saying but nothing is dying here besides its up to us creative types to keep the ball rolling regardless if there would only be 1000 people left to watch it
>>39966557>then muscle memory flows between physical and digital extremely wellI want to believe. That would be great.>Time really can be a wonder drug sometimesTotally! Also positive side effect of learning to draw: I am now seriously invested in the future of humanity. If the nukes start flying tomorrow that would make all my efforts of learning to draw look rather silly. Not as silly as the people with remaining vacation days though.>>39967036>I agree that drawing is mentally taxingIt's really fun when you are in the flow zone. That magical little space between boring and frustrating right at the edge of your current skill.>4-8 hours>if I go in blind without any refs but then its kinda like your solving a puzzleYes. I like that art turned out to be less like it's always portrayed in media. This feely, touchy woman dominated field were inspired people smear paint on a canvas without a plan. Turns out it's a lot more like a trade with rules and knowledge and stuff. And if I learn those rules and practice their implementation I can do that what they do too.>but nothing is dying hereYeah, was just a hypothetical.>its up to us creative types to keep the ball rollingNah. I'm not here to keep a ball rolling. I'm here to have fun!
Experiment with facial expressions again
working on something retarded to get the hang of Toon Boom Storyboardhttps://files.catbox.moe/0x4eno.webmsource audio is 3 minutes long lol, not sure if I'll be able to make it entertaining for that long, but I'm having a blast working on it so I'm going to try doing the whole thingalso I have no idea why it says it's 77 hours long lol
>>39927744New mare I made for an FOE ttrpg game I'm playing with some friends, only like the third pony I've drawn.I really need to practice anatomy tbqh, I'm still just tracing bodies from the show and adding my own mane, tail, clothes, and accessories. Happy with the results, though. Pencil brush really does cover up lack of ability.Should I just stick to tracing and practice sketching a bunch of blank bodies on the side?
>>39968160Tracing bad because it doesn't give you ANY skill and exploits someone else's work instead of making your own.Practice redrawing canon bodies instead - put up a reference, then SEPARATELY, NOT OVER IT try to draw a copy as accurate as possible.
>>39968219Eh, if you're a complete and utter beginner tracing is fine at the very start to get a feeling of how to draw and it's more fun than looking at the complete ass that is your own work. Transitioning from that to free drawing should of course be done asap but it's not a complete mortal sin as such. Just don't push it as your own work.
>>39968219occasionally tracing in the beginning can help you learn line confidence and partially adopt a style that you like, that being said>>39968160draw entire mares from scratch 99% of the time if your serious about learning to draw properly. no featureless ponies, not just tracing, commit to a full proper pony. drawing is a process with many layers, and you learn them by adding each layer together.
My attempt at drawing the cute muffin mare finding some muffins freshly made by anon
>>39968253>no featureless ponies, not just tracing, commit to a full proper pony.Is there a reason for that? I would have thought that focusing on something I’m extremely weak at would help at improving in that area quicker. I’m honestly pretty lazy about actual improvement. I mostly plan on just doing shit like that stable mare so that I have tokens to use in our games, which is why I’ll probably continue to trace bodies for the time being. I do feel like it’s still helping me with line control and managing layers. I’m brand new to this, after all.I’m also the type of person that is a lot more likely to draw something when the finished product is visually appealing, even if I’m not learning as much from the process. I’ll definitely try to start doing more freehand stuff, though. Thanks for the input.
>>39968160Cute pone, tracing is only really good for learning how use the basic line and blending features of your preferred drawing program.
>>39967994Ooooh that's fun.
>>39967994>not keyboard cat
>>39967907aw she so sad, I think its solid but play around with over exaggerated and cartoon once too, when you learn to make crazy stuff the subtle expressions will be easier
>>39968290When you draw the full mare, its less about any tedious and boring learning and more about drawing a mare. any struggle spots are more like short term puzzles to lead to the greater good of a cute mare.>I wanna draw a mare that is jumping>First i gotta figger out what a leaping mare looks like, how does that body move?>Her mane cant be all neutral, shes jumping with all her cute might, i guess i gotta figger out how it moves around>Shes working hard for this jump, i think her face should probably show that. what does a mare working hard look like expression wiseetcetera etcetera.dont let other mares stifle your creativity, soon youll be drawing lil pones casting magic missle in sick ass action poses and all that. the destination is worth the journey
>>39967569>It's really fun when you are in the flow zoneagreed except I never find it boring to draw easy ponies. however I don't really know my limits yet but I am bound to hit it soon as I get more ambitious(don't ask me to draw a circle I can't fucking do it!)>This feely, touchy woman dominated fieldKEK fucking women with there stupid feelings maaaan finally art can be for me and the boys>Turns out it's a lot more like a trade with rules and knowledge and stuff. And if I learn those rules and practice their implementation I can do that what they do tooeveryone gonna have a way that works best for them, happy you found yours>Nah. I'm not here to keep a ball rollingheh don't be so sure mate when I see you improve I get inspired myself to keep going and that will be the same for others so indirectly you will do your part for the future
>>39967994shit dude this is good
Just started drawing ponies
>>39969042Don’t know why the image flipped
>>39968490Thanks.>>39968829>aw she so sadThat wasn’t my intention, I was going for a more befuddled look. >but play around with over exaggerated and cartoon once too, when you learn to make crazy stuff the subtle expressions will be easierReally? I was doing the opposite.
>>39969042>>39969044Cropping your images will prevent this.
>>39968849Makes sense. Thank you, mare sage.
>>39969042nice good start
>>39965707>>39965759I see. I have to admit I don't understand colors very well. I can vaguely picture what they need to be in my mind, but I don't know which sliders to adjust to achieve the effect, if that even is the main problem.Are there any guides to better understanding how colors are affected by different atmospheric conditions? While it's not related to this idea, I've also noticed the colors in real life seem "different" somehow when it's a cold day versus a warm day.
OC without reference this time. I really like drawing ponies. Their form is fun to draw.
>>39969211I think you are talking about color temperature. >>39969264Is your oc anon filly? The resemblance is huge. If you can try to draw the next one bigger with your whole arm. It's easier to work with something big!
>>39969482I’ll give it a try
Can someone please help me with her right eye?
>>39969574the snoot is pointed too far to the side for the angle of the head, i think if you fix that the eyes will look better
>>39969574>sharksnout>line for lower lipdiagnosis: furry
>>39969084is she poisoned?>Really? I was doing the opposite.more exaggerated anon much more, they are cartoon ponies break some boundaries
>>39969574My try! I like to use this recipe from dimdock to draw heads. The nose bridge thing is an awesome tool.Original:>https://dimdock.com/Sketch/Viewer/?imageId=1HMzkusBf9fUnInf60Jd423S7-gSSErsm
>>39967994part 2https://files.catbox.moe/qo3om8.webmI'm rapidly running out of ideas
>>39969828I've honestly never tried this styleI'll try my hand with the next mare!
>>39969835good shit right here
derpiest poner to ever derp
>>39969084>>39969699I think the exaggeration is fine, it's just placed in the wrong direction.When both brows are raised with a frown like that it generally conveys fear or anxiety, not confusion. Generally to get something more befuddled looking I'd recommend going for half-cocked brows with the mouth open, like this.
>>39969835still awesome. Watch some bongo cat memes if you have no ideas anymore>>39970102Oof. I like how derpy she looks. A little bit like hypnotoad, with the pupils and all.Can't get over the whiskers though. It just reads neckbeard to me, even knowing that they are supposed to be whiskers.
>>39969835almost a 100% genuine bonafide keyboard cat
>>39970210next mare will be normal I just wanted to enhorsen pone
>>39970941don't worry anon, I'm a whisker fan too. It's an acquired taste, takes a real horsepilled anon to fully appreciate it
>>39970102Vertical pupils are really cute.
>>39972064cute, her mane and could be more volumous tho other than that you did well.>>39972073cute, she's got a mare hat.>>39972124cute filly but again the mane needs more volume.
>>39972141Thank you for the advice
>>39972158would you like some redlines for a visual representation of what you should do?
>>39972170Sure, if that’s alright, I would appreciate it
>>39972172The pink lines are suggestions of what I think would look better.
>>39972202Oh wow thank you
Eye of Destiny Cult pegasus
Here is an update on my WIP. I redid the eyes a bit and with the overall head shape i think I rounder her out more so she’s not too square hopefully. Let me know what I could improve. Also this threads reference sheets, and guides are awesome, and I’m getting the rough sketch for the body down nice I think cause of these guides!
>>39972363I wanted to add real quick that the eyelashes/eyeliner layer is just layered wrong and it probably won’t stay like that, unless I should keep it like that
>>39972363she is cute and pops I really like her well done
does the perspective of the line art look ok? I may be out of my depth here and going with my gut so far
>>39972430Perspective is fine, anatomy not so much. You're making the classic mistake of "backwards knees" a.k.a. assuming the ankle is the knee. Consequently the legs look broken no matter what - if you wanted to go for pony, you broke their feet, if you wanted to go for b&thro, they're missing an entire leg section and so look like they got their feet chopped off and are walking on stumps.
>>39972430wouldn't pony put leg over leg like this?
>>39972473thanks mate, both legs are fucked? I think the top one is not to far off
>>39972480kek that looks really unconformable
How important is hand posture? I have a small desk and only enough space to barely fit my tiny cheap drawing tablet so I'm using my wrist for everything.
>>39972534Both repetitive strain injury and carpal tunnel syndrome are easy to get and hard to heal.>>39972487Does this look alright to you?
>>39972571For a human that would work, but ponies legs bend differently from us so it should bend more like how >>39972480 put it
these fucking legs... still its getting better, hard wrap my head around them>>39972571no but that's mostly because its barbie desu
>>39972604I think that looks better fren
>>39972596>>39972604>For a human that would work>mostly because its barbieThe leg depicted is missing a section and the foot is bending backwards.>but ponies legs bend differently from usHorses have exact same general leg structure as humans (and entirety of Mammalia), just different proportions and muscle attachments.>these fucking legs... still its getting better, hard wrap my head around themMuch better. Not how I would've done it, though...
>>39972604>>39972430>>39972618...which is this way. Remember, while ponies have the same leg structure as horses, they have way, way better range of movement, and so being able to put one of the legs sideways on the ground is reasonable.
I wanted to combine my two types of autism into one for this drawing. It's space marine Flutters! This one was close to being perfect in my eyes until I noticed that the one shoulder guard was smaller. I didn't notice it until I took the pic. It looked better to my own eyes I swear.
>>39972626And here is the colored. I wanted colors for her armor that felt like Fluttershy. But after I finished I realized I just used the Buzz Lightyear color scheme lol. The shoulder problem is more visible here. Maybe she's just leaning forward more on one side? But that's just a cope.
>>39972617thx I think so too, its fun to test limits>>39972618>>39972625Thanks for the advice legs are very tricky to me in most angles, your example looks weird even if its accurate
>>39972631cool but the shoulder plates needs to be three times larger for the 40k vibe
>>39972626>I didn't notice it until I took the pic. It looked better to my own eyes I swear.That's what flipping the image (or for paper, looking through it from the other side) is for.
>>39972618I ment more like if a human on all four “squats” their limbs bend inwards, while a horse doing the same think in the same position will have them bend outwards, sorry I probably should have worded what I said differently. I do like the physical diagram you gave showing our commonalities with horses! Helps visualize that hidden knee they have. Also it’s crazy that we evolved to stand on joints like we do
>>39972689I know I'll be sure to go bigger in my next attempt.
>>39969637>>39969670Is this better?
I like how this turned out, would do again.
>>39972631Looks more like Doomslayer color scheme, if that helps>>39972744What's she blushing about? Is it me? Oh god I hope so.>>39972604I have a cat and when it comes to poses and stuff I always ask myself if I've ever seen him like that. Cats always lie on their side or belly. I think you have so many troubles with this pose because it's not something a 4 legged animal would find comfortable no matter how the legs are crossed. The pose is pretty anthro so you need anthro anatomy. Just my thoughts on that>>39972363Add a neck! Always helps make a face look better. Also the eyes start well, but they end weird going from center to edge of face.
>>39972869Should I pull in the corners of her eyes more? It’s easy to alter her so feel free to draw over her to show me, if you wanted to that is! I also have this super rough beginning of her body too. Any advice on the body is also very welcome! I haven’t done the forelegs just yet, but once I’m home that’s the next thing to sketch out while I’m on the body
>>39972744Cute! Her and blanky would bond over their baldness no doubt.
This thread makes me so happy.
>>39972930god lord such hips, very nice thighs n legs
>>39972930Eh, maybe it is fine the way it is. I don't know how to do it better. Maybe it just looks weird to me personally and I don't feel qualified to suggest an improvement.
It's supposed to be Ibaraki from the Fate series but as Lemon Hearts plus some weird cat-demon because I really can't draw the fire-wolf that is supposed to be there. (Yes the eyes are stretchy on purpose). It's probably not her sword she is holding. I mean it does not look like it was made for a pony. She is not even biting it at the handle.It's same posture that that one anon red-lined for me. I've tried doing some shading as I've been told to do. Maybe I should have shaded the cat-demon too, but I don't really care to.I know the image has it's mistakes (lemon's horns, sword perspective, lazy shading), but I really like that determined look she has. She seems ready to throw down and I respect that.
some comic format practice, a comfy morning
>>39973732this looks pretty good, btw fine wine a qt3.14.
>>39973732>local bonehead gives own throat fifth degree burns; files for worker's comp>more at 6
>>39972930Thighs as wide as the whole torso are no good. Don't listen to coomers like >>39973337 - they're thinking with their dick, you can show them any garbage and as long as it has giant ass they'll praise it.Also, the neck is too short for pone.
>>39974023shes had so much hot coffee in her life that it doesnt even hurt, it just lets her know that it is indeed fresh>>39974020thanks. having a love hate relationship with the line tool since i cant get it to mesh well with how i draw, so im being a retard and drawing them by hand. FW is a cutie and im planning on building a plush of her before i go to trotcon. if i can, itll be a fuckin huge one
>>39974131>>thanks. having a love hate relationship with the line tool since i cant get it to mesh well with how i draw, so im being a retard and drawing them by hand.Hey look at the Brightside It's got to be some good practice, what program do you use? if it's krita then I totally understand, I cannot into kritas vector tools what so ever>that spoilerfucking based waifu builder
>>39973337>>39974118hard to not crave unrealistically thick mare thighs desu. if her neck needs to be longer, do you think making her neck longer, and adding some distance between the top circle, and the bottom one a bit can allow me to keep the hips kinda wider? rn I have those circles overlapping. Either way I’ll play around with the body more, cause honestly I was wondering if I did her legs little to thick, but Honestly it’s kinda genuinely hard to not do that kek>>39973516I think I just need to fill in the outer corners of the eyes where her top and bottom eyelashes meet cause I left them extremely light, and it makes that part look like more than what’s supposed to be there
>>39974131Is building a plush hard? If not, I'd definitely try doing that sometime in the future as I've always wanted a lifesize of my ponies
>>39974372Are you any good at sewing/how much sewing have you done before?
>>39974188I use CSP since I've been gaslit by other better artists and im to lazy to pirate and learn photoshop or something. >>39974372it doesn't /look/ hard, but im gonna buy a lot of extra materials just in case its 30 consecutive days of fuck-ups. if im lucky, ill nail it first try and i can make a bunch of different ones afterwards, like tiny ones to share with friends. im basing my baseless assumptions off the plush general and the standard style in the OP. when I do mine I'll probably finagle my own method to get a good huge plush outcome, like the other life sized ones ive seen. maybe some stuff in the feet for weight for posing or some shit. ill probably share details here as i go, paired with drawings to contribute and share with the /bale/bros
>>39974453never used CSP myself, also have you ever sewn before?
>>39974463nothing more than fixed buttons or to attach leather to a cowboy hat, but i got the power of tism on my side, and disposable income to fill the minor gaps. all i need is to imagine the jealous faces of my adversaries and ill be on my way. maybe ill make more mares than FW and flex on the world! LETS FUCKING GO!
>>39974426not a lick
I like ponifying horses>>39974470At least you have a can do attitude, Be warned if your doing by hand that it will take a long ass time to make. I took in the waist of a shirt once by hand and it took me about 4.5-5 hours of hand sewing to do. If I had a machine it would have taken me 10-15 minutes including the set up time for the machine. I'd highly recommend trying to make a small one first then using the techniques that you learn from that on your big one, I can say from experience that sewing is way more difficult than you think and it's incredibly easy to fuck every thing up to the point of having to scrap everything and start over.
>>39974118>hips as wide as the whole torso is not goodheresy, what the point of making all ponies look the same the artist should be free to embellish on things with there creative spirit>>39974236don't listen to the purity fags, your art will be a fine addiction to /balelooking forward to see the finished drawing and don't forget to do a back shot as well practice practice
>>39974929I like the idea of doing a reverse shot of her! I stretched her a little bit taller, and I’m probably gonna keep her hips/thighs the same cause I enjoy the look of it more. If it helps at all she’s floating in the air in that pose, so her legs are pulled in more, and that would be adding to her thighs squashing out more. Right?
Cleared the canvas at https://aggie.io/baleBackups:https://files.catbox.moe/27x3kl.psdhttps://files.catbox.moe/68mu3o.pngthis one filled up quick, thanks to everyone that hung out after the last stream to draw on it!
>>39975460no doubt! u and I are on the same wave length, I bet she is gonna be lovely <3
>>39975520awesome canvas! who ever made the RD pose I love the energy great job
>>39975560Thank you, and I hope she does too<3
>>39974929"Creative spirit" is a funny term to use when referring to borderline copypasted garbage all ass-rtists end up drawing if they don't check themselves.>>39974236>Honestly it’s kinda genuinely hard to not do that kekWhich is the problem - this particular picture is on the "passable" side of the divide, but you won't be able to keep yourself to that side - you will, without even noticing, make the thighs larger every time until the result looks like a broiler chicken-taur. And aforementioned coomers will keep praising you, placating your ego and making sure you're blind to how your anatomy is growing ever more exaggerated and how your audience shrinks to just those coomers, because everyone else is too polite (or antagonized by them) to tell you you're fucking up.
>>39975840All my art before this has been intentionally made to look fucked up. I wish I had the one I’m going to describe but I drew Mario once and he looked like Nigel Thornberries long lost brother. A lot of my old stuffs just straight up gone. I’m hoping to not get to parumpi levels of off proportions. I also think if I did clop I’d be making solo art of shy, and I’d definitely make her slim. I made my WIP pony thicker cause I headcanon that most unicorn mares are chubby due to laziness brought on by their magic usage. I also think that’s probably the most I could’ve pushed it without getting out of hand too. I’ll post an update later tonight, I just got stuck at her forelegs for some reason last night, but looking through the guides I see what I was doing wrong with them now
>>39975840>tumbler user confirmedgo whine some more faggot kekartist are free to express themselves as they please, I bet your own art wont live up to your own standards >>39975978again, ignore this assholeyour art is awesome and a nice breath of fresh air on /bale
>>39975978looks fine to me, dont let the armchair critic fuck with you.
>>39976270>>39976058I’m genuinely the opposite of bothered by him. I’ve never made something that people were willing to fight over it like this, and the argument wasn’t about it I sucked or not. It’s made me feel like I’m worth existing, and that I have something to contribute. I feel so happy to be able to give back in someway like with my art. Thank you all for your support! This has been an amazing time for me, and I don’t feel negatively about anything said in bread
>>39969699>is she poisoned?No, just a random expression. >more exaggerated anon much more, they are cartoon ponies break some boundariesOkay, I’ll keep that in mind for next time. >>39970130Thanks.
>>39976467There are some really cool designs in there - non-pony ones at that. I like the discord faces too. Just Twilight sticks out as poor in comparison. What happened there?>>39976577Don't even want to know how much so much hair must weigh. Maybe that's why she grew up to be so short. She refuses to cut it though, claiming that a mare with short hair may as well be a stallion.
Reliant on referances still, gotta practice more gesture drawing.
>>39976577cute!>>39977062thanks>>39977294based fellow blackline enthusiast
>>39977294Don't be afraid of relying on reference if you need to m8. Anyone that tells you that reference is cheating is lying, retarded, or both
>>39977680unflatten mare :(
I've been thinking a lot about the chubby Marble that anon posted a while ago. I like to imagine helping her get fit, she'd probably really appreciate that someone cares enough.
>>39976270>>39976058Methinks you doth protest too much.>coomers will keep praising you, placating your ego and making sure you're blind to how your anatomy is growing ever more exaggerated and how your audience shrinks to just those coomers, because everyone else is too polite (or antagonized by them)>>39975978>I drew Mario once and he looked like Nigel Thornberries long lost brother>Smashing, Poppet IN MACARONIYou really should recover or redraw that.>most unicorn mares are chubbyHorses (and quadrupeds in general) don't really get fat legs. If you want pony-accurate chub, enlarge and ensmoothen belly and neck (like the show itself does).>>39977567>>39977294>Anyone that tells you that reference is cheating is lying, retarded, or bothThis. As long as by "reference" you mean "looking at the thing to make sure you're getting it right" rather than "tracing". I've met people who were on both sides of that particular misunderstanding.In fact, the anatomy creep I mentioned before happens because of refusal to reference, whether through overconfidence or stupidity. Your mental image of something is ALWAYS being overridden by itself, it's how human memory works. If you don't have something "anchoring" it, like a reference, it will go the way of Louis Wain's schizocats.
>>39977294>>39977567Agreed, references are the life blood of drawing.>>39977267Thats a really cute idea of a background for her, makes me want to develop her even more,
>>39977267>There are some really cool designs in there - non-pony ones at that. I like the discord faces too. Just Twilight sticks out as poor in comparison. What happened there?I drew individual characters from pictures in the search. added some changes. I did best with Discord as you can see and with that dragonicus lady in the middle. But I didn’t manage to draw Twilight very well.
>>39978040I see. I was using this image from the references that show to add more there before adding to the rest of them. Should I probably add more to the purple areas to better add the weight on her?
>>39978040"oh no, the cartoon isnt consistent"
>>39978588It’s true though using real horses sometimes results in the show being disproportionate, and the logic of what’s accurate becomes contradictory. if we get down to it their legs shouldn’t widen at the hoof cause that’s not how a real horse would look too, but we still do that anyways. isn’t that the same exact thing as chubbier thighs especially with how not extreme that example is?
>>39978420>Should I probably add more to the purple areas to better add the weight on her?Yes. The entire lower half of your reference was clearly drawn one-handed and is critically lacking as the result.Note how the show itself does chubby mares (and for that matter, chubby stallions) - larger body, rounder face, thicker neck.>>39978777Still you continue to be demagogue coomer trying to justify your fetish and force others to partake in it instead of admitting that you have shit taste :)
>>39979018do you even hear yourself? nobody is forcing drawings on anyone, and taste is subjective. he is drawing what he wants to, if he wanted to draw show accurate or even realism thats what he would study. stop being such a stupid nigger lmao
>>39979018I appreciate the advice, but idk how I’d draw with both my hands at once. I am ambidextrous but that’s still kinda hard to do on a tablet with one electronic pen. I also may add more to make her more accurately chubby but I enjoy the pear shape she has now. in your show model example I do have to point out that they do gain weight in their thighs. The mare on the rights thighs are like twice as thick. It’s kinda made your point of view on the topic a little null to me, as you’re giving proof to me that they can gain weight in their thighs, and that you’re kinda nitpicking at this point. Like I said if I hit the point that I become parumpi mark 2 then feel free to tell me my proportions are off, but untill that point I think i made an ok first attempt at a lightly chubbier mare, and the fact that I’m calling that chubbier should tell you I’d make other pony’s smaller. I also think once she has arms she’ll be more top, and bottom balanced. Cause rn she’s missing arms and shoulders
>>39979018>you draw it incorrectly because... because.. because i said so!! stop drawing it the way you enjoy! stop having fun reee!!!
why are show accurate normal pegasus wings so fucking hard to draw
Are these legs too short? They feel short.
>>39979687I’d say if you divide the length you have for the legs in thirds and add another length equal to one of those thirds it might be closer. I think the rest are good!
>>39979687Is this meant to be a mare or a filly? If it's a mare the legs and the torso are too short, if it's a filly the neck is too large in both dimensions.
Another Swelly Swirl for a swell day,
Did some art “studies” today, if you could call them that. First one (1) went pretty bad, I blocked out the main shape of the character, but then just mindlessly copied the outlines. Didn’t put much effort into actually constructing the pony using 3D shapes.With the second pic, I booted up Blender and laid out the 3D cubes that I would later draw on (2). What was cool about this approach is that I could change the perspective however I wanted, resulting in (3).I’m not sure if using 3D software is the right way to go though? On one hand - “no rules only tools”, it speeds things up and makes proportions and perspective nearly impossible to fuck up. But it feels wrong, sort of like tracing, but with extra steps.
>>39979848Mare. What exactly do you mean by the torso is too short? I have an idea of what you mean, but I'd like to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.
>>39979687SMASHED and SLAMMED
>>39979687No, Shining Armor really is that short.
>>39979913Went ahead and just redlined it. Basically, try to remember that the circle you use for the head should be roughly the same size as the chest and hip circles, and you should leave some room between those two. The bottom of your ribcage doesn't connect directly to your hips, after all, and the same is true of ponies
Tried something different
>>39980682This is quite trippy, I like the background swirl in particular it looks like a time lapse of the night sky.
>>39979319>I appreciate the advice, but idk how I’d draw with both my hands at once.The other hand is used for hotkeys in digital and the implication (that the artist was masturbating) went over your head.>It’s kinda made your point of view on the topic a little null to me>if I hit the point that I become parumpi mark 2By that point it will be too late.Enjoy your art in six years, buddy.https://derpibooru.org/images/3134089
>>39979687Yes, they're too short. A good target to aim for is legs as long as the head is tall for mares, and 2/3 of that for fillies. Or slightly shorter in your case as you're drawing a guardsmare and they would likely be bulkier from training.>>39979875Good work.>I’m not sure if using 3D software is the right way to go though? On one hand - “no rules only tools”, it speeds things up and makes proportions and perspective nearly impossible to fuck up. But it feels wrongIt's only wrong if you're using it as a crutch - if you CAN'T draw without it. Using it as an actual tool so that you can draw faster or figure out a difficult pose is fine.>>39980169>the circle you use for the head should be roughly the same size as the chest and hip circles>shouldObserve picrelated.
>>39980811No I understood the jerking off reference, and I was being a smart ass about it,sorry you couldn’t pick up on that. The art you shared I feel doesn’t even match with the issues you’re saying I’ll have. On top of that I prefer the one on the left it looks more done than the newer one. Even the wings look better on the left. You are also backing off the fact you posted show models of the mares that made what you were saying about weight gain on the legs wrong. They clearly do gain weight in the thighs,hips, and bellies before gaining much in other spots. Just like us pony’s would all gain weight differently from eachother. Making everypony look exactly the same isn’t interesting.
>>39980811>that comment sectionHoly cancer, the "people" on derpi are such ass lickers holy fuck. I find it hilarious though that the "artist" got so assblasted by disagreement that they aren't gonna post on derpi anymore. also love how the commenters are praising the 2023 version as unique and that means it's good as if distinct=good. If that artist wants to do more horsey ponies there's so many good options of artists to look towards for inspiration.
>>39980811i dont mind how either of them looks like
>>39981524Ye I don’t get why people can’t take appropriate criticism. I genuinely think they could’ve done better with stuff like the face especially with the horse forward design
>>39980811Off-topic but does anyone else absolutely despise "before/after" memes? Almost always the before version looks better ... why is that?
>>39981524Its disapointing just seeing how badly deluded people can really become in mind.
>>39981972same, I feel like the limb's are too thin in a lot of places, they also curve in a way that horsey anatomy shouldn't, and that makes the hooves look extremely out of place. The most egregious sin IMO is the huge ponut, like there are worse offenders out there but I feel like the fandom in general has an over saturation of overly large genitals.
>>39982011nice digits, anyway I mean that's bound to happen when you lock yourself in an echo chamber and only listen to those vigorously fellate you.
>>39980811The artist's meltdown was beautiful.Like, the fuck did he expect posting a comparison pics like this when his artstyle changed from "popular with everyone" to "hella niche"?I don't even mind the way he draw stuff now, but goddamn if he didn't deserve having his little fishing-from-compliment attempt backfire.
>>39981998Complacency and lack of negative feedback is my guess. They believe they've become good enough and end up using less references, combined with fans giving constant praise and either nobody saying "this is worse than before" or those that do getting attacked by the praisers.
>>39982019I totally agree, especially with giant ponuts on smaller mares. Like a peice can look perfect and then it has a weird giant ponut that totally breaks the whole thing. It’s kinda why I wanted to get into drawing mares cause I’d want to keep it properly proportioned, and also draw flutters not being hurt in clop, or fucking angel
>>39932148decided I wanted to take it a bit easy today, I'm going to do more angles of this style to solidify what i started with. decided I wanted to lengthen the neck on the style.
>>39981998It's a combination of fetishization of artistic freedom, shitty work ethic and toxic positivity. People are simply not allowed to express their dislike about an artistic subject or even to point out the most banal flaws of an artwork. Otherwise, they will guaranteed to get flak, get downvoted, called as a jerk or troll, or even downright getting their posts or accounts banned. It's not a surprise that most people will try to stay "polite", do not dare to speak or just try to avoid stalemate fights with hordes of self righteous, narcissistic white knights.This social phenomena creates a harmful positive feedback loop in the artists' ego which is the most damaging on the long run. The artists only encounter positive, meaningless feedback from the community, while becoming completely insulated from critique, to the point where they will genuinely feel being insulted when they receive a negative comment (even if it was an objective, fair critique). This kind of culture is widespread across all online art communities to a varying degree, for obvious reasons, the professional artist communities are the least affected, while the pop-cult ones are the most. The final component of the issue, is that a good portion of artists, completely loose their inner drive to develop their art. There's nothing more to strive for, because all the feedback is positive. There's no new artistic heights to achieve, because all the examples around are re-confirming the artists' perception of themselves. There are no more "constructive criticisms", just "online trolls".I think one of the greatest example for this kind of degradation is pic related, you probably know the artist. It would be fair to point out, that not all of his newer artworks look like this, he put out a ton of really nice works after this one. But. If you examine his work as a whole, you will see a continuous trend of ever-increasingly distorted facial anatomy and the like.I think the best thing an artist can do, is to avoid social media, stay positive, always have a little bit of self-critique and most important one is to keep creating art.
>>39982701>picWow thats amazing, thats a comparison between original art in 2015 and AI art in 2020 right?
Drew butts today: another copy + a drawing of my own.
>>39982722You do realize that AI "art" of this resolution and quality was not available for the general public 3 years ago, right? https://www.deviantart.com/viwrastupr/art/All-the-things-we-ve-done-and-learned-834428368>>39982295yup, very nice!
>>39982295I think that looks better
>>39935869this looks amazing
>>39982295Much!>>39982762Right leg looks broken or at least dislocated in the second one. Ideally the slope of that hock joint shouldn't rotate outward at all without the hip joint moving outward as well, if that makes sense
>>39982295Silly tiny horn, but otherwise looks great to me.
>>39983396no horn shaming, size isn't important!
>>39983396It's just cold
>>39983404>>39983414Leave her alone! She's a grower not a shower!!!
I drew this on 5/22/23. The reason why I waited so long to post it is because I was working on a short story to along with the image(s), which I have rewritten and edited a bunch of times. No idea why I struggled so much, when Google Plus was around I would create (non-pony) characters and nations, write tons of lore, and engage in RP for hours, so it’s not like I’m new to the concept or anything. These characters were created last thread, I’m tweaking their appearance as I draw them more. Also did some experimenting with poses and expressions.
>>39983805Drawn on the same day. I think I definitely bit off more than I could chew here; what really threw me for a loop was the size difference. Here is the short story. In addition to still figuring out their personalities, I was trying to convey them purely through dialogue and actions. Neither of them have names.>The grey Bat Pony mare slouched over, taking in deep gulps of air; struggling to recover from the monstrous hug her Earth Pony comrade unleashed. >“Sorry.” Said the Earth Pony. “Normally I have better control over my strength. I guess the stress is getting to me.” >Though they sat facing away from each other, the grey mare could feel the embarrassment radiating from her partner. Maybe it was because of the oxygen deprivation, or perhaps it was the stress affecting to her too, she thought the best way to cheer her up was a compliment. >She took one final deep breath before speaking. “I knew Earth Ponies were strong—I’ve seen what you do on the battlefield—I never imagined you would be THAT strong. The enemies must be in a world of pain when you hit them full force.” >There was a silence. “By the moon, I made things worse!” The bat pony internally yelled at herself. “I shou-“>Her companion started speaking, her voice in a questioning tone. “I’m sure they don’t feel anything. Earth Ponies soldiers are trained to use our strength to kill in one hit—whether it be with hooves or a spear.” >The grey mare looked over her shoulder and at her companion. She was starring at seemingly nothing again. Trying to salvage the situation, the bat pony gingerly plodded her way towards the earth pony and gave her a hug—not just a normal a hug, but one using all the strength she could muster. >”There.” She broke the silence. “Now we’re even.”
>>39981998Because they're mostly done by the self-absorbed attention whores, not by artists who have genuinely improved.And attention whores>lock [themselves] in an echo chamber and only listen to those vigorously fellate [them].>>39982137This.The artist claimed on twitter that he "gets constructive criticism from friends", which, considering his meltdown, means that either those friends are walking on eggshells, or by "constructive criticism" he means "this is great, here's how to make it look even more like a starving dog!">>39982135He expected there to ONLY be the same brown-nosing MOST of the comments ended up as.>>39982701And here the man comes in with an essay. This is a great explanation, anon.Another example of pretty much the same happening, down to changing normal deep shading to glossy, shallow one is (warning: b&thro) https://twibooru.org/posts/2651657.
>>39982762>neck connects to the BACK of the head, not the middle>you confused thigh-fat (vertical) with the lower leg (horizontal)>then failed to follow through on it (knees don't bend sideways)>the right hoof on your Flut sticks out much further than the left>mane isn't covering up questionable anatomical details like on the original, and is thus exaggerating them>following your self-made reference too closely resulted in the butt looking disjointed>and NOT following it close enough resulted in the mane looking disjointed3D mockups only make something faster, they don't compensate for lack of knowledge.This is why the proverb "learn the rules [first] then break them" exists. The artist you've copied knows the rules (including how to make people not notice that the front is fucked) and is breaking them, you do not know the rules and thus don't - can't - see where your breakage of them is going wrong.If you want to draw like him, you need to learn and know three things:>pony anatomy>human anatomy>how to direct the viewer's attention away from your screw-upsto understand not just HOW he did something, but WHY, like choosing that specific angle to use the butt to cover up the front, covering the hard-to-draw-or-outright-humanoid neck and back of the torso with mane, etc.
>>39983805now we are talking this is really good! you nailed the expression on the left poneru made the character feel genuinely alive to me compare to the previous "before after" posts that where stale and deadbeing able to make the right expression to capture a strong feeling is (to me) THE most important thing in drawing our beloved ponies don't stop mate your on the right track
>>39981524>going on derpiboorusanity was never an option
>>39982763I was being facetious
I'm having too much fun with this silly mare, https://files.catbox.moe/7rq8ev.jpgWith a poorly necked mare (as in the neck really isn't connected to the head in the best way)https://files.catbox.moe/869ra4.pngWas a very quick greyscale pixel, though with pixel art anything smaller than around this size couldn't really get to look right. Does there happen to be a guide for pixel art ponies? (as I couldn't find one, and their shape is hard to get correct in smaller resolutions i.e. 32x or 64x and how to go about abstracting them to fit in such a small size)
>>39984359Don't know of such a guide, but there are lots of pixel art ponies around if that helps. Pony town is entirely pixel art. Or maybe checkout a horse-like Pokémon and study that. >>39982762Idk. Looks like you are going down the "draw what you see" route by copying the outlines of a 3d model. Is that what you want though? Don't you want to learn to "draw from imagination"?
I never thought my attempts at more ambitious poses were particularly egregious, but oh dear...
>>39982701Holy fuck that 2020 one looks fucking horrible. The colours are shit and that face is atrocious. Looks like he ated the bees.Unironically the 2015 piece is better in every conceivable way
>>39984259>now we are talking this is really good! you nailed the expression on the left poner u made the character feel genuinely alive to me compare to the previous "before after" posts that where stale and deadThat’s surprising. As I said, I drew this before those pictures. I think I even drew it before or on the same day as this one>>39957054, so I haven’t had the chance to implement all the critiques I’ve gotten so far. I guess it was a fluke.>being able to make the right expression to capture a strong feeling is (to me) THE most important thing in drawing our beloved ponies >don't stop mate your on the right trackI’ll continue to work on it. Thanks.>>39984473Thanks.
What are some good >mobile drawing programs? Visiting the hospitalized elderly is boring when they're asleep the whole time.
>>39985337Procreate is crazy good
>>39985332autodesk sketchbook, CSP(if your willing to be jew'd)
>>39985047>That’s surprising. As I said, I drew this before those picturesno no I was referring to these >>39982701 shit is fucking whackshould have been more clear my bad>I haven’t had the chance to implement all the critiques I’ve gotten so faryou got the right mind set looking forward to see you grow
>>39985047Bumping with some more old art I never posted. >>39985456Thanks. I’m not sure if I’ll be working this year or not this summer. Either way, intend to up the ante.
>>39984359Lemon hearts and Swelly Swirl; hair style sisters (sorta).Now for some self loathing. Anatomy bad, face bad. Pose is almost a direct copy but still couldn't do it correctly. I though I knew something about anatomy but this just had me stunned. Had to draw the underlying sketch 3 times from scratch. The reference looks so deceptively simple. I hate it when it becomes such a struggle.
>>39986261Still is really adorable seeing the two, (I really adore both of them)
>>39983367>>39983876Thanks, I'm grateful for the feedback and tips. I'll pay more attention to the anatomy in my future drawings.>>39984526Yeah, I admit that I followed those 3D outlines too closely.>Don't you want to learn to "draw from imagination"?I wish.
>>39972790>>39980009I plan to re-do and ink this later
>>39986703My attempt at posing and blood Will re-do and ink later too
>>39985332ibispaint is great
>>39985332The notes app
>>39986707Is that a shark pony?
oh snap bump limit already, I'll bake the new bread
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