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Jewbird, I've come to bargain.
>>39734807why would anyone bargain with jewbird he is losing and theyre not in any position to win so ir would be in theyre best intrest to put more pressure on him until he disbands his entire alliance and gives up
>offboarder Dashflaggot returnsAnd the thread has gone to shit already.
This dumbass redditor makes me ashamed of being a dashfag myself.
>>39734835if you feel ashamed for being a dashfag you show no loyallty and you don't deserve her she is the element of lpyallty it's that simple but whatever
>>39734847I hope that you're trolling.
>>39734675I endorse this message
i'm interested to know how you guys see your nations i think mine is about 30% unicorns 60% pegasus and 7% earth ponies and the last 3% are other creatures such as drafons and griffons although if my first nation dies i might make my next one a more creature focused
I think we have to accept that the dashflaggot is an unironic autist. Anyone merely pretending to this extent can't be just merely pretending.
>>39734880100% breedable mares
>>39734933I want to rub their bellies so bad
I'm trying to plan out my city so far this is how it is shapeing up. the upper city is mostly just governmental buildings and the bank it is also where the queen pegasus lives and rules over the other ponies.
>>39734970I want to ride on the mare highway, if you know what i'm saying
>>39734982the road is cobblestone so i dont blame you it is decades old and many mares walk it to on on their spirit quest to find the ones they love and sometimes gain the ability to astral project after walking it
>>39734993you don't know what i'm saying...
>>39734993Another based astral projection anon?
>>39735007Yeah i been studying for about 1 and 50% decades now and I once projected myself into equestria where i met my wife(rainbow dash) now we are married and link spirtually i might make a guide if anyone wants to know how
>>39733144>>39733648>I'll share the logs once the current attack is resolved, so you get an idea of the kind of things you will be dealing withbytesol is kill, riplogs about the ruling on the initial peace deal https://files.catbox.moe/tgtfqa.txt
>>39735193>TNNfags are arguing against Rule 4Wait so... they WANT to allow scorched earth tactics?
>>39735193Mare is dead!
>>39735193>[2:06 AM]HostAnon: i'm waiting for the thread to go nuts when someone is finally conqueredGreat. And a drama whore to boot.
>>39735380wtf I ran this and my ip got doxxed
We will be supporting defensive efforts by providing resources as necessary. To avoid breaching any NAPs, we will not support any offensive action, and will not be providing any troops; as such, none of our actions will be aggression in any way. To avoid sustaining losses caused indirectly through our aid, any aggressing attackers may simply withdraw their attack.
So let me get this straight niggers. You all cried about how TNN gonna steamroll poor Bytesol and helpless Bloc, how we must rise against transnigger tyranny of discordfags... And you lifted not one finger to help him defend against them. Sending him troops? Nobody did that. Sending him resources or deals? Nobody did that, after all these talks of unity and standing up. Not even his own alliance, because of which he came under fire. Tells a lot about the quality of the alliance that will let you just die under the enemy attack. But of course they cry about needing help while ditching their own.You absolute retarts and bafoons. Do you think the troops that took Detrot just disappered after meeting exactly zero resistance? Yeah they will march onto the next and next target until you faggots will fucking stand up to them. But you won't because you're either kikes caring only about bits or can only troll in this shitfucked thread.
>>39735516he wouldn't respond to dms for the last day, we wanted to help him.
>>39735516Yeah I dunno what bird is doing, there's a pretty big pool of resources waiting for him whenever he wakes the fuck upMaybe he's ragequitting the game as well, though he was so adamant on fighting that I would have assumed he'd have at least orchestrated his last battles before leaving.For now I'm gonna assume he got suddenly busy IRL or something. There's still some more days to wait while the future attacks resolve, since every attack takes some time to move between nations
>>39735516tried to help but neither jewbird nor bytesol answered me
>>39735535Honestly not gonna be surprised if jewbird gonna use all the resources only to defend himself.
>>39735516this >>39735525 >>39735542
>>39735516Detrot went dark and refused to respond to messages. His resources were running a deficit so I assume he just up and left.
>>39735516Been trying to send him resources for a couple days. No responses.
>>39735584He bought oil from me about 18 hours ago, so if he bailed it must've been recently. Did nobody help him before that?
>>39735590>>39735596I also messaged him days ago.
>>39735516>desperatly sending messages to jewbird>literally no response>massive supply reserves and cash reserves to giveAbout 3/4ths of the game supports the block/anyone against TNN. They just have to actively reply to messages. Why didn't YOU help him?
>>39735516I tried to help, but his responses on CLOP went from normal to slow to none at all...
detrot has been pretty inactive for the past week, responding anything you send him once a day if you are luckynobody in the bloc should be surprised by this
Jesus H. can a nigga get some pies in the market
>>39735602>>39735600>>39735590>>39735584>>39735565>>39735542>astroturfing this hardOk blocfags>>39735602>bout 3/4ths of the game supports the block/anyone against TNNTNN+puppets is about 1/4 of the game, and some us hate both of you.
>>39735623We are surprised about the Bird's unresponsivenessOnly two days ago or so he was actively drawing up battle plans, calling up his allies for aid and generally declaring his intentions to fight to the last. I even spent time dicussing potential alternatives to minimise damage for the Bloc if the fight was deemed hopeless, but he seemed adamant in his decision to fight.Then he went near-silent out of nowhere.>>39735631>blocfagsAgain the discussion is about jewbird himself, you cuck, we're trying to help the bloc
>>39735638Unfortunately the Bird got exhausted from all this. We were grasping at straws trying to figure out how to defend Bytesol and without him cooperating, well, we couldn't really do anything. Doesn't help that not everyone wants to do war calculations and the work was unevenly offloaded on a few people (mainly the Bird). This game isn't made for everyone.
>>39735638>jewbird>unreliableWhat a fucking surpriseBloc will be a loss as an alliance but that kike can go die in a fire
Someone buy my damn copper, I'm broke
>>39735630Salamalekum brother you did deliver, and at what a price!
Bad news, the lower residential district blew up when a factory exploded in the heavy industry district we are now 25% unicorns, 80% pegasus and 5% others.
>>39735647>Unfortunately the Bird got exhausted from all thisThe Bird, again, had various alternatives available to him for taking the inevitable loss, minimising damages, and making the best of things for long-term viability.He insisted on fighting with such vigour, and now he gets burnt our right before the fight? If that's really what's happened, that's pathetic. After committing, the least he could've done is actually play out the battle, accept everyone's showering of resources and build the units and watch what happens, and THEN dip.>>39735648I'm starting to think this way, too. He talked the talk, and for most of the game backed it up by also actually acting in kind and rising to the top (of the non-oldfags), but if he just drops the ball at the most crucial moment that'll be a total undoing of all the confidence and friendship he'd tried to cultivate.
>>39735650>only 20k listings"no"
>>39735665>20k listingsthats a rip off if anyone needs copper I can trade you 1 per 5 apples/oils
>>39735661He's only one new guy trying to fight back. Sure you guys supported him with resources, but that's about it. Just resources. And you forget Bytesol wasn't cooperating so we had no idea if he was going to even defend. Kept insisting all he had were thoughts and prayers.
>>39735671>He's only one new guy trying to fight backHe's the only new guy who absolutely refused an NAP with the big steamrolling faction, AND absolutely refused any of the other options except head-on defense.So he basically went>yes I'll defend!>yes send me your resources I'll build an army and counter-attack!>no I'm not gonna scuttle my obviously doomed alliance and maximise resource recovery, I'm gonna get everyone to fight and I'll build the armies and send them head-on against Tir in an all-out defense!>w-waaah building an army is tiring I am burned out...Again I'll wait for his personal word, but if this is actually what happened, you don't get to complain that it's difficult when you rejected all alternatives and signed up to do it all yourself.>And you forget Bytesol wasn't cooperating so we had no idea if he was going to even defendBytesol is just one nation, who wasn't even very active, and is probably understandably salty that he joined a trade organisation - without even participating in the chats in the IRC - and got caught in a crossfire of a massive war.Even with Bytesol being unresponsive, there's still the entire rest of the alliance that Bird whipped up into standing together behind him and defending, and Tir's attacks will continue. Just because Bytesol fell doesn't mean that it's time to just give up and quit the game. Not to mention that, after you summon aid from a bunch of allies, it couldn't hurt to spend 5 seconds writing them a message to inform them what's going on rather than just radio silence.
>>39735682it has been working so far. i do 4 copper per 1 part also
>>39735669>1:5 applesThe super Mario Audacity of this man
>>39735689Friendship is magic. Allies are, well, I don't know. But I do know allies aren't magic.
>>39735692i'm a trader i always trade up it may seems like a lot but i need to leave my self room to trade up with other people you know i dont intend on ripping people off so no bad blood between us
>>39735669KEKWant me to bend over and spread my cheeks for you also? That's the kind of offer I'm looking at right now.
>>39735696whatever ballar dont come crying to me when you need copper you could of made a deal with me i accept anything i even accepted gems once and i dont' even use them but i bet i can probably trade them for a profit
is anyone making flags for people if they are please post your name i really want a flag fpr my nation and everything i make in paint looks bad
>>39735699Punctuation, my dear dashfag, would help you greatly. I'm not going to do a deal that is quite literally a 10k markup from the seller's marketplace. 1:3 ratio would actually be good.
>>39735707honest question is english your native language? no bad blood and no bullyment when i am actually curious
>>39735712I do not care if you speak 20 languages ESL chan. You learn to speak English properly.
>>39735721>ESLi was born and rised in the uk we invented english 1000 years ago maybe you shouldnt tell us how to speak it food for thought but whatever
>>39735728How much have you rised?
>tir-bloc talk starts dwindling>quick, we need new bait to keep this thread on the first page
>>39735734literally dying game
>>39735734We would just be bumping it, nigger
>>39735736>Active player count rising each day>Dead game
>>39735738>sockpuppet accounts with similar naming conventions>"active players"
Who do I reach out to in TNN about defecting from the bloc?
>>39735741Feel free to point those out so Hostanon can ban them
>>39735742Message their alliance leader probably
If I make a saddle Arabian islamist alliance, would anyone join?
>>39735832There's already been like two or three of these, with 1-2 members each time
>>39735852You're right. Bugfag alliance is a better idea.
>>39735861Indeed, I've been looking for one and/or have been thinking of making one soon
>>39735866Most bugfags I know are in DL currently.
>>39734819All of these generals are offboard colonies. This is the future you chose. Nigger
>>39735881most, this unironically.
>>39735734>>39735736>Threads return to the previous level of activity before major happening>Literally dying
>>39735881>people that were previously on the board are now off-boarders for playing this game because there are discordfags in it
>>39734810That's precisely the best time to offer to bargain with someone, though. You can impose the most devlish of terms.
>>39735380>>39734796nice scriptthis changes the messages system to have conversation threads with each person
1 mil for pies, do I even need to tell you to kys?
>>39736914I didn't know jewbird was in the pie business?
>>39736914make your own if you buy pies and dont have a bakery idk what to even tell you at this point like it shoould be one of the first things you make since they are required for almost every sat building. if you need pies i can sell you them for 3/resources per pie
>>39736914After seeing this post I decided to join the pie business at a insanely discounted price of only 999 thousand 999 bitsDon't mind the extra crunchiness, crystals are good for your health, surely...it's not our main occupation, please be understanding. But it's still good though, the best even!
>>39736938>crystals are good for your healththey really are just being around them allows your spirit to bind with the astral plane easier consuming them would be even better i would imagine
>>39736914Just for you, I put up some 30k pies
>>39736946fellow dashflaggot please stop making the rest of us look bad. Especially when you talk about astral projection in a thread about pony nation simulators>first letters in captcha are KYS
>>39737323maybe you should read what the another person brought up and i was jsut adding on to what they said about crystals whatever I made your nation unfriendly in game.
>>39736946>they really are just being around them allows your spirit to bind with the astral plane easier consuming them would be even better i would imagineLow IQ mongoloids have some very interesting takes on spirituality
>>39737371The worst part is he's not even wrong, he just talks like a retard and talks about Spirituality in a thread dedicated to a pony simulator game. If he really wants to talk so badly about it maybe he should just go in the discord and talk or hell make his own thread about the topic of astral projection. It's been probably a good while since we had an /mlp/-/x/ related thread anyways. He should go do something productive like that and leave this thread alone
>>39737371you shouldn't knock it until you try it i used it to project and collect infomation the bloc and the racist league it may seem low iq but its very real and a good strategy
>>39737375He is wrong, his post demonstrated a clear misunderstanding of the subject matter. Horsefuckers and bronies general have a very narrow minded and consequently stilted view on the occult. You're right in that this isn't the thread, so I won't make any more posts about it.>>39737378Sure thing retard
I haven't laughed this hard in a while. What insights have your astral projection given you into the nature of the bloc?
>>39737390they are working with the racist league more than they appear and secretly have a pact they call the dominion where they poll on plans they also have plans on extending it to other alliances to protect everyone I will astral project again soon to get the details and see them mroe refined
>>39737375can confirm dash tard, this is why crowns were affixed with gems and such
>>39737409Wrong. I'm in the DL and you're a moron if you think you gained that insight from a fucking crystal or astral projection.
>>39737421the visions are hazey so it is still unclear whta i saw but all i saw war and death of many mares if the block is not destroyed
>>39737409Hey Hostanon, can we get a rule against astral projecting for information? It seems very unfair this unique gift can be abused by only select people.
>>39737428Alright folks, the local wizard has called for destruction of the Bloc. Let's get on it.
>>39737428You don't know shit about the state of the DL. The shit you said could have been made up by anybody just with the information in this and the previous threads. Multiple people have speculated and come to the conclusion that the DL and the bloc are colluding. You've said nothing new.
>>39737432skill issuewe should have dashfag write a guide on astral projection to spy, and include it in-game so it's fair for all players
not how it works retard
>>39737459Placing a curse on you right now
>>39734796added 'feedback' to headers, where you can submit feature requests, bug reports and the likeit will also will show up in that header if in-game polls are underway
>>39737483BLANK BAR IS LONG FIX REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>39737491which headers should be moved, and what should they be moved under?
>>39737496Maybe merge search, stats and the feedback header?
everyone in this thread is so mad about dumb shit it's unrealanyways buy my fucking drugs i need to fund my environment-destroying oil refinery
>>39737521Fuck you, I'll be angry about the astral projection advantage if I damn well please.
>>39737521I am angry about you in particular anon. I refuse to buy anything from a canadian.
>>39737535skill issue desu
>>39737521Just sell them cheap. There's a reason everybody always buys my apples up. Doesn't matter if it crashes the market either BTW =)
>national turned 21>nobody attacks You told me TNN would steamroll me the second I turn legal
>>39737914nation name?asking for a friend
>>39737920Stop it with the antisemitic questions
THE GLOVE HAS BEEN TOSSEDPEACE NO MORE!!NO MERCY!! AFTER TIR (YOU)'RE NEXT!!!
>>39737213Hmm would be good to respond to literally any messages then
Acting as what?
>>39737934May Tia have mercy on their reddity souls, send it
>>39737934>ATK>DEFAt least learn the game you're meant to be playing if you wanna try making jokes about fake units
>>39738464That thing would trade with a single scrounged cavalry lmfao
>>39738464>being anal about knowing how the game works OK TNN, would be nice if you went ahead and lead another faction against the other oldfags instead of conspiring against a bunch of puzzled newfags.
>>39738577At this point I doubt many of the newfags would accept "help" from TNNExcept maybe actual newfags to the thread who've missed the entire history so far, I guess
>>39738464>being this seriousThis is why the game isn't fun
>>39738607this shit's already over, just waiting for the pieces to fall over and for anons to leave one by one.
>>39738577>ConspiringOnly one faction had done any conspiring, the one currently getting their shit pushed in.
>>39738625>it's all over>players leavemeanwhile 94 active players in the last 24 hours
>>39738625You keep posting this, and yet the player count keeps climbing.
>>39738645>>39738646>after 6 minutes 2 replies in the same 20 secondsTNN discord screenshot link moment
>>39738650So, no actual rebuttal then? Kek
>>39738660Your schiso ramblings weren't posted anywhere in TNN discord you retard
>>39738660>why is no one responding to my shitty bait?>h-heh, I'll definitely get some (You)s if I double downHappy now?
Jewbird you fuck answer me!I offered you some resources so you can actually fucking defend TNNiggers yet you said you will send the deal and there is none!
>>39738899This>jewbird talks about what resources he might need>promise him a shitton of stuff that I have>he never sends a deal and goes quasi-silent for like two days
>>39738979>>39738899He is consulting with the elder jews.
Maybe he found out leading an alliance in this game is a lot more responsibility than it looks in the worst possible way.Maybe he'll start playing as, at most, a lieutenant for someone else, someone capable of dealing with the pressure and willing to spend more time on this autism condenser of a game.If he keeps playing, that is.
So is there nothing we can do to convince TNN to leave jewbird alone at this point?
>>39739156>jewbird refused initial NAP with TNN>jewbird planned in IRC to stage a proxy war with TNN while outright invading smaller targets>jewbird refused peace deal with TNN (it was bad, but one would think it's possible to do negotiations and diplomacy)>jewbird said that he could take on TNN with all the support>now he maintains radio silence while doing jackshit about his and his allience defence>"B-but why wouldn't TNN leave him alone?"He dug his own grave and dug deeper and now he can lie in it.
>>39739216desu that is top-notch jew roleplay
>>39739216This, what flabbergasts me the most though is that he isn't even taking (almost) any of the support offeredEven Israel is more than happy to deepthroat dozens of billions in aid yearly
Wow, if I had half the confidence you guys have to price apples like this I'd overdose, cmon, what the hell are these prices you know your shit ain't worth that.
>>39739304Just downright peculiar...
do we know who TNN is attacking next yet?
Why are so many bloc members going into stasis?
>>39739880Can't be attacked in stasis
>>39739880avoiding war?thought I thought anyone leaving the bloc is safe, so it doesn't make sense to me. this is just costing resources that could covertly oppose TNN
>>39740117who is that friendship convoy heading towards?
>>39740117Get fucked, nerd
>>39740225friendship is mandatory, as it should be
>>39740117>tutorial is ~900 units>subsequent wave 1 and 2 combined are less than half thatinteresting balance
>>39740272Ah, but the total enemies that they have to defend against are the number from the tutorial boss plus the other two waves. You could interpret this as the extra waves of the tutorial, or simply each wave including the previous waves for its own proper total.
>>39740294No, I disagree. The two subsequent armies are called "Adds wave 1" and "Adds wave 2". Ergo, each army in itself comprises wave 1 and wave 2 respectively, since sending each army "added" that wave to the total attack.It also makes no sense to send waves of normal enemies after the boss, so the only reasonable interpretation is that the boss ends the tutorial and the "waves" are supposed to be the post-tutorial difficulty.
>>39740305Nah, they're adds, aka a term for nuisance enemies spawned by the boss, they're part of the same boss fight.
>>39740343Oh, huh, I've never seen that term before. Yeah that makes more sense honestly, fair enough then.
So what happens after Jewbird is killed?
>>39740481The next name on the list will die. Then the next. And the next after that again. You get the idea.
>>39740502List is getting pretty short, bloc is down to 8 members
>>39740588TNN should've spared ShekelBird's slaves and just offer them to join a TNN-aligned alliance or leave 1st Trade Bloc and see them leave like flies under threat of invasion. But I guess this is good too. They even offered to give Trade Bloc an NAP like they did the other alliances but they refused. Goebel could've played it right had he been more secretive and put up a front of friendliness like most sane leaders would but he was open about everything and it cost him his alliance.
>>39740715>he was open about everythinghe tried to appear somewhere from friendly to neutral, while planning warit wasn't rejecting the NAP that caused this, it was the IRC leaks that the bloc was planning war on TNN no matter what eventually. And until then some kind of uneasy truce so the bloc could attack weaker alliances
>>39740715We actually did tell them to leave the bloc for safety, that's probably why so many have left already
>>39740723I'm aware of that, but relatively speaking when it comes to leading an alliance of nations/members he was probably the most idiotic person to lead a coalition/planned attack against TNN. He didn't hide his tracks at all. If stuff he said got leaked then he was too open.
I refuse the offer.I will die, my honor tell me to not betray my alliance.
>>39741132Personally, I would do as they say and plot my revenge. But you do you.
>>39741132>lol I guess we're steamrolling now
>>39741166Did you expect them to not kill everybody in the alliance they're at war with or something?
>>39740117Never forget the aggressor in this fight.
Here you go Jewbird, at least try and defend
>>39741380I put some numbers down and ran a test, defense is not unlikely. The most obvious thing in this first iteration is the excess of unicorns, this can and will be lowered. I will likely write on my strategic observations in addition to the revamped war guide I'm writing.
Once the Bloc is wiped, it won't be long before you're mandated to build DNA Extraction Facilities, with failure to do so meaning destruction or capture.
>>39741443i'll help with DNA insertion facilities, if you know what I mean
>>39741443Bro the guy is buying each DNA at 20K, selling DNA is just profitable, regardless of your opinion of tnn.
>>39741443This is not exactly a super oppressive thing even if it happens. "Oh hey, build the stuff they let's me beat the game and leave so you are free from the supergiant oppressive nation"
>>39741456>implying they'll leave
>>39741465dna is used for ascention, and that kills your nation putting you in the leaderboard for it
>>39741469Does it stop them from making a new nation?
>>39741472don't think so, but would be starting from scratch rather than built up
>>39741443Have you read the logs? If the Bloc isn't wiped out we won't be building shit, because we'll be farmed out of the game. Thankfully they're clearly losing badly
Ascension process as I understood from code diving.1. Build a Forbidden Research Facility for 1000 copper, 300 machinery parts, and 300 precision parts.2. Collect 4000 DNA (48,000 total) from each sub-region.3. Wait 200 turns for it to process into 200 forbidden research.4. This unlocks the "Alicorn Elite" government type for 1,000 tungsten, 1,000 precision parts, and 1,000 machinery parts, and 3 Billion bits. It has several actions that happen upon converting:-SAT cap raised to 5,000-All nations in the empire adopt the type-6.0x GDP multiplier regardless of SAT-Debuff for having too many nations in a single empire is reduced by 1/3-An Alicornification Facility is provided that drains 100 Energy and 50 Apples per tick, and provides one Apotheosis Serum-A constant relationship penalty with both the NLR and SE that starts and -10 and decreases by one per tickThis is the point of no return, as a constant relationship penalty never maxes out and will insure war with both superpowers.5. After 30 Apotheosis Serum is amassed, the "Transponyism" government type can be chosen, along with requiring 2,000 tungsten, 2,000 precision parts, and 2,000 machinery parts, and 5 Billion bits.-SAT cap raised to 7,000-All nations in empire adopt the type-Two more Alicornification Facilities are given, requiring a total of 300 Energy and 150 Apples per tick, for 3 Apotheosis Serum6. The final step requires 100 Apotheosis Serum, 10,000 composites, 5,000 precision parts, and 5,000 machinery parts, and 8 Billion bits, all that's left to do is build the space ship and win.
>>39741483So there's nothing stopping them from coming back to keep fucking with us.
>>39741546That is just normal gameplay
>>39741536So lore wise basically the entire populace turns into alicorns and leave the world for another?
>>39741654>So lore wise basically the entire populace turns into alicorns and leave the world for another?yup. that would be compounds, the sequel game which hasn't been resurrected. not many people liked itessentially you had to ascend in clop to make an alliance on compounds, and everything there was about alliances, you couldn't play without one
>>39741664>you couldn't play without oneKinda dumb concept to be honest.
For new players having trouble choosing an alliance choose the bloc. We're having a pizza party down in the sewers tonight and we're having fun down here. calabunga
>>39741831should you encourage noobs to join an alliance currently at war?
>>39741834How else would they win? They are clearly hoping for some cannon fodder.
>>39741838Not even cannon fodder, just war slaves that can't be attacked for three weeks.
I think we should start drafting an agreement for the offboarder oldfags regarding their distribution in alliances once the server resets.Some claim they will absolutely disperse so as to avoid game-ending concentration of power, but we know they are all chummy with each other. An example we could demand they agree to is no more than 2 of them in any one alliance, and no defense pacts or closer between their alliances for at least the first 3 months of the server's life.
>>39742256Would be an acceptable price if it means getting rid of the discordfags.
Total Nog death
>>39741132>Bloc propaganda is incorrect, we have no intention of attacking any other alliancewaiting for TNN to attack everyone who sent resources to bird as "aggressors" or something lmao
>>39742300No I think the better solution is to just have everyone else go into a "we destroy the discordfags" pact from the start, now that we know their true colorsWith people having actually played the game for a bit now, the difference in speed won't be THAT stark anymore, and they shouldn't be able to just defeat literally everyone else
>>39742664>Be in free market>Be a successful entrepreneur>Birdie bought your resources>Be annexed by discordniggers
>>39742675>TNN already running psyops for post-reset>Get the noobs to think they can fight back because they're "already experienced">Secure aggressors they can annex before the game has even startedC'mon, TNNbros, take it easy on the newfags. It's getting embarrassing.
>>39741669Entire server was still dripping from the prolapsed anuses that Aryanne gave them when they made compounds. Pretty sure the entire game was just a giant cope from losing to him lmao.
A generous buy offer for machine and vehicle parts for 15k per part! Fill now and get your bits!
>>39743172>Generous buy offer>15k>Copper is usually at 13.9klollmao
>>39743172>generous>15klol lmao, 20k each for parts is bottom line
>>39743305It costs a prze 300 to make a part, it's good profit, especially if you have a zigger provider
>>39743357the cost is in energy. unless you are also providing the oil/apples for them to burn and consume to balance out the energy/sat loss
>>39743357>it's good profit, especially if you have a zigger providerWhy yes, it is good profit, if you completely ignore the cost of oil and copper, and don't care that you could get far more value from a trade or even by selling on the marketplace.I wouldn't accept less than 30k, and even that is "wasting my time" territory
>>39743172Very generous indeed.Of me that is. I only sold because your teammate sold me copper for a decent price when all the other damned ziggers are demanding 10k+
>>39743373>30k waste of time territoryI can relate. Anything higher than that is waste of bits, I'd rather burn 30k of currency and manufacture parts myself than feed a przewalskian.
If one was to trade parts for a common good, like copper, what ratio would be fair?My guess would be something like 8:1 or so but I could be off.
>>39743631>12:1The audacity of this bitch10:1 is literally the ceiling and anything below is generosity
>>39743621>>39743631>>39743660I've been trading my copper for parts at 3:1 for weeks now. Don't fall for these scams zebrabros.
>>39743621I barter copper for other goods. I have a few trade partners with slightly different rates. I try and use the better deals where possible, but it depends largely on who is availableapple:copper (3 to 5):1oil:copper (2 to 3):1parts:copper 1:(2 to 3)so to clarify, for 1 copper i'll get from 3 to 5 apples, depending on which of my trade partners the deal is with
>>39743668Bet you need that oil to not get blisters on your perpetually rubbing claws.
>>39743667I pity the stupid Przes that trade with you
>>39743705can't have the poyim discussing their trades. those who are getting jewed might realize
>>39743712And I pity the dumb asses that think parts are worth more than 5 of their basic resource per.
>>397437335 might be acceptable, 3 is absolute crap though, especially since one is required to make the part in the first place.Factor in energy cost and you realize that poor pretzel is getting robbed.
>>39743803Oh, I get the confusion. I pay the 3 to actually make the parts. I provide the required copper/gems/tungsten to use as material myself.
>>39743803copper @ 14kparts @ 45kignoring taxes, that's roughly a 3:1 ratio. anyone paying much more than that is feeding the jewsthough copper is trading higher than oil/appul, so check for your own resource type
>>39743667>>39743668Fuck, I've been getting jewed this whole time.
Goose, my beloved. Please come back. I miss you.
>>39743886how badly?przes gonna prze
>>39743886My fren, would you like to join an alliance instead of getting cucked this whole time?
>>39743939inb4 they're getting jewed by their alliance
>>39743884Those are sell orders and they can be whatever. The fact is my buy orders are met even at 2k per copper. >>39743886You're not getting jewed, now get back in the mine!
>>3974388445k parts anon here, I myself keep to that mentality of 3:1 and always keeping to a fair price based on the last 4 ticks or spots, and if no one buys at the moment then I'm not going to just drop the price and leave them thereMaybe I should rise the base trade to 4... ^:)>>39743947No one ever puts fair priced requests there though, honestly gave up on it myselfAnd you can thank your alliance for the 2k orders filling, surely
>>39744006>And you can thank your alliance for the 2k orders filling, surelyNTA but I find people randomly filling my 1k orders sometimes. not in an alliance
>>39744019The entire order or like 5? That's only happened to me once and I took as a joke from apple sellers giving taste testing or something
>>39744019I used to do that when I had a small GDP so that I could get some quick bits to post a listing
>>39744035today was 80 oil / 25 machine part / 25 vehicle part, all randomly filled by people buying up small noob orders to help out
>>39743942There is no jewery or whatever in my alliance, the name alliances has been tainted unfortunately and apparently the connotations of normal beneficial alliances seems gone
It's honestly impressive how some of you can price copper like this, anything consisntley over 14k just rots on the shelf and you know it.
>>39744265prze claws typed this post
>>39744265Basically yea, I try to only buy way below thatLast two days I was getting for more, so I'm part of the problem, but been on an emergency too, so
>Want to become a free market>Everyone in alliance talking about being state controlled in the futureIt hurts
>>39744899poorly defined economy chads keep winning
>>39742675For what it's worth, TNN hasn't even been trying. In a previous incarnation an alliance called MEPH got to the level of enviros in a week or so. And previous TNNs have ascended before noob protection wore off. You'd just get crushed even harder in a reset if you were obviously antagonistic.
>>39745073Why even play
>>39745127>Why even playmares
>>39743631Jewbird back at it again!
>>39745073Just invest into a spy networkGet a spy in tnn, get crucial info on production, stockpiles and plansPlan accordinglyStockpile shitDon't be a solo nigger thinking he can oneshot an entire allianceAnd you might have a chance
>>39745073>You'd just get crushed even harder in a reset if you were obviously antagonisticin a reset tnn should break up into smaller factions. the oldfag civil war would be much more fun
>>39745344>implying there will be a reset>implying oldfags won't NAP each other>implying TNN discorrdfags leave discord and won't coordinate their trade and defenses while being in different alliances
>>39745127That's what I've been wondering for a while. And it looks like there's no reason to touch this game at all.
War tick in ~4 hours. This is the second iteration of a defensive composition, any feedback?
>>39745423I'm too much of a brainlet to speak on the matter. Either that or the current war guide doesn't make any sense. You figure the displayed forces are enough to endure TNN's attack? That doesn't honestly too horribly expensive given it's against a doomsday army, though it might be hard for JewBird to get resources at this time of day. It's mostly just a shit ton of copper and a couple billion bits. Does anyone know how much he has on hand?
>>39745447It might come down to weapons manufacturing: gems, plastics, and tungsten. Of course, he'll need other resources to maintain basic upkeep on top of the army, as well as extra to maintain his sat. He has to actually build his attacking force in ~4 hours, so it might be worth shooting him a message if you're looking to give some resources yourself.
>>39745453I'm a sand zigger, not the regular kind. I don't have any of that stuff. Sure hope he can pull it off though.If you're reading this, JewBird, good luck. And if you lose, try again. You might wish to change your name, but I urge you to come back, join one of the other alliances as just another anon, and help them take down TNN. If you fall today, we'll need your help to break them tomorrow. Oh, and you'd probably have more support if you promised to scrub your event log somehow. Maybe just spam small deals with a scapegoat so that we don't wind up dead right away if you fail.
Another iteration has been developed, is there any anon that can provide feedback?
Welp, weapons cost a lot of copper. Unless I get more, defense is improbable.
>>39745636If my numbers are correct, I will require 9055 copper, 690 gems, and 155 plastics to finish the proposed defense. I also go to work soon enough.
>>39745659I believe in you birb!\o/
>>39745636>>39745659Buy orders listed, if it is any incentive we can talk about deferred payments I owe after I survive.
>>39745666For anyone considering donating, feel free, I have no plans to attack donors to the bird at this time it'll just make it even more hilarious when I send a bigger army tomorrow
>>39745666>we can talk about deferred payments I owe after I surviveTNN fund their defense, demand crazy interest jewing the jew with bad deals
>>39745666Where are the orders, birb? I would throw in some copper
>>39745757If you were honest you'd have already thrown in instead of concern trolling like that, as I've seen the offer there for over an hour
>>39745844I have checked it and there is none since the moment "orders open" was posted
And the Bird survives!well done mate! I didn't expect you to pull it off.best of luck for the rest of war too.
>>39745855Buy order under 'Friendistan'
>>39745926Can you see 'Friendistan" on the copper buyer's request market?
>>39745938Go back and lie to your dicksword faggots nigger
>>39745855are you embargoed perhaps?
>>39745964Seems like I was. Can see him now.
I'm Star Expedition, diplomatic of the Bloc.I humble ask for you help to this war.
>>39747229don't bump it let it stay on discord.
>>39745887To be fair, he survived just the first wartick. There are still attacking units left on the battlefield that will continue the battle on the next wartick. So he's not in the clear yet. Dunno but there's possibly more underway.
>>39747327Its clear he's on borrowed time if no other Anons can begin to put pressure on Tir directly, as Friendistan has very high GDP and is therefore very lucrative to continuously attack.