Previous thread: >>39723279Current meeting place for the newest edition of >CLOP, a decade old browser game about building nations, geopolitics, and oppressing ponies. Join now and start making connections.Still in a test server for the sake of quashing bugs and making sure everything's running as it should. Whole thing may or may not be reset at some point, but unlikely. There might be a poll in the future. But given how far we've come and how invested people are, very unlikely.WAAAAAAAAGH!!! edition.>Link to the game itselfhttps://4clop.com/>So why'd the game die the first time around?https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_nTxC7Ci_x2mYV6hLhXtj7m5488XgEYT6M8phQESjiQ/mobilebasic
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>you HAVE to sign up to discord and agree with their T&Cs to participate in this self-hosted hobby game!>and you HAVE to also sign up to google while you're at it!>nope you can't just play the game properly without doing business with multiple tech giants at once. have fun being a solo nation with barely any communications, chud!
>>39731310not me and sorry for causing this shitpost inducing topic to come into fresh thread but if someone wasn't sure why for at least 2 anons this isn't okay, check last few posts from previous thread - I tried to make it a bit more easy to understand what's wrong with the current state of internet. Just leaving this here if someone is curious and would like to read more than a /g/ shitpost tier comment.However, anon here does have a point - it seems like it might suck not a player here, sorry if I come off as a tonedeaf if you just wanted to play the game as intended and not dox yourself to 2 more big, "trusted" (because they're big, duh) companies.
>>39731368>not a player here, sorry if I come off as a tonedeafWhy don't you start playing then and check it out, at least you won't have to add "btw I'm not a player" to every single post you make
>>39731373Unfortunately I just don't like the game itself. Few games interest me, most of the time it's things around the game itself that are fun to me - getting it to run, hosting, modding, causing shitstorms for reasons some might think are ideological, etc. That said, I'm really glad this game happened to be hosted again. That's cool, even if the game itself isn't something I enjoy. To avoid being called an "offgamer" due to assuming instead of seeing actual social interactions happening in game, I thought it's good to put such disclaimer once every few posts myself.
>>39731310since when do you 'have' to use discord?the irc is fully viable
>>39731398It is, but people are arguing in favour of the discord anyway for some reason, hence my post.
>>39731390You unironically sound like you'd be the perfect anon to take over HostAnon, though.>HostAnon only hosts it by necessity, because he wants to play the game, and would gladly give it over to someone else to maintain>you say you'd enjoy hosting, setting it up, modding and maintaining it>you also don't play it so there wouldn't be accusations of bias from you being in some faction or other>you also have reasonable views on modern internet and wouldn't put a discord link on the homepage day 1 and keep it there even when alternatives get madeIf you've got the free time to set it up, have you considered contacting HostAnon?
>go to sleep>entire new thread had to be madejesus christ. i didn't expect the >clop revival to be so successful
>>39731438>successfulopen to interpretationit's generated lots of drama now war is open
>>39731454>it's generated lots of drama now war is openwhere do you think you are?
>TNN three weeks agoWe promise not to immediately attack and steamroll everyone. We know that would be bad for the game :)>TNN yesterdaylol we're gonna take out our biggest opponent right away. Can't have dissent, can we?
>>39731507Yeah that's definitely what's happening, has nothing to do with them conspiring to attack us or anything.
>want to trade with anons in fun little economics game>will be forced to submit to discordfag heelgood thing i didn't play much
>>39731523Negotiate a NAP and trade with anons in fun little economics game
Wait but I thought the bloc and tnn had an NAP.
>>39731540Bloc refused our NAP
>>39731535it's pretty clear tnn will come for us little guys after being done with the bloc
>>39731507are they so far ahead that they can survive and win from being dogpiled by everyone else? if they're such a threat why does a coalition not form against them like what happened if a euro power got too big for their britches throughout history?
>>39731544I don't believe you, you guys are from discord. Why even attack the bloc anyways?
>>39731553Fantastic argumentAlso maybe read the thread, we attacking them because we have their entire IRC chatlog, which includes plans to attack TNN as soon as they have the power to do so
>>39731556Proof?
>>39731556>we have their entire IRC chatlogUh huh.
>>39731560It's all in the previous thread Including the logs, you can read them yourself
>>39731523>>39731549There's still hope that they will actually honour real NAPs. Bloc didn't have an NAP, they made a mistake by refusing a peace offering from a vastly superior faction.>>39731553Bird has had ample opportunity to claim that an NAP has been breached and hasn't done so once, so pretty sure they really didn't have one.>>39731552They might be right now, but not for long. Early game sees explosive growth, but I think we're near the mid-game now where growth is much more difficult and expensive. At this point numbers advantage can genuinely start catching up. And looking at things, I expect that in maybe a few months we'll reach the late-game, where resource production practically plateaus and then it's simply whoever has the most players/nations has the most resources.
>>39731562So you don't have any proof, typical griffon tactics.
>>39731567Lol
I have PROOF that TNN is going to invade everyone.
>>39731561Bird is FoodRUs. This person has a dual personality disorder and plays pvp with himself. Of course he has his own irc chatlogs.
>>39731552I mean consider this, with the two other biggest factions, they can BARELY beat them in copper production.However in terms of apples, oils, gems, tungsten, the TNN has much MUCH more.Personally I don't care, I just want to sell APPLES
>>39731575>who isn't cuteWhew, I made my batpony nation very cute, I'm safe.I didn't read anything past the first line.
>>39731578But are they HAPPY batponies?
>>39731579Yes
tir nigs and the bloc should negotiate peace termsi'm sure the bloc can offer something of value
>>39731593bloc would definitely accept peace but tir would never accept such a thing from a higher population they've declared war on and didn't negotiate a NAP with, as population/nation count late game is power they going to war with the biggest group knocks 2 birds with 1 stone giving them immense power in nation amounts and removing their only population opposition.
>>39731612Won't this kill off any interest in the game?
>>39731575implying there wasn't proof provided last thread>>39728941>>39728941And if the claim is the logs are faked, wouldn't the bloc have been screeching that from the rooftops? instead all we saw is someone implying IRC-Anon may have stolen the logs from the database. We don't know if the accuser is in the bloc or not, but it adds credibility that people believe they are genuine
>>39731614chances are that the bloc will disintegrate and TIR will consume 2-4 nations they particualrly want, somewhere in there finding another reason to go to war with someone else or just having everyone squarely under their boot, as mentioned in the last thread they didn't suggest people join any alliances they don't have NAPs with yet.
>>39731618Mate I don't know what you are talking about, I am just having a giggle with the genuine proof I have.
>>39731612You might be pleasantly surprised soon>>39731618You're also giving us way too much creditNobody is creating that much fake text
>>39731618>Noo you have screech at all lies pointed against you even if evidence is weak>Noo everything said about us is edited and fake and we'd never attack anyone otherwiseOne faction is heavily playing the annoying and tiring "political" game and both of us know who it is
So when you conquer another nation, does the SAT thing just get turned by to zero in their nation, or does it remain as it was at the end of the conquest?
>>39731310You can join up with us in the Cozy Campers. We just want a comfy economics game, no discord required.
>>39731628>One faction is heavily playing the annoying and tiring "political" game and both of us know who it is>joins a geopoltical sim>complains about politics
>>39731630>We just want a comfy economics game, no discord required.To be fair that's most of the alliances, the Defamation League was practically founded to avoid discord, most of the others don't have discord either, even the Bloc has stated "fuck discordfags".The most powerful alliance just happens to be the one that's ran by discordfags, and people are unironically defending the need to use a discord and claiming it's not an offboard faction.
>>39731629>SATI'm just imagining ponies, griffons, zebras, and saddle Arabians just taking tests now.
>>39731625>finding another reason to go to war with someone elseIt's obvious the next play is to attack DL for working with Bloc, then going for Cozy Campers because they have a defensive pact with DL. Once those three have been killed, guess what, no more large factions opposing TNN! What a convenient set of circumstances.
>>39731652>claiming it's not an offboard faction.Who has done this? They seem pretty open about it actually
>>39731660>Working with blocIf they were working with bloc, why aren't they defending them?
>>39731662Not so much claiming they aren't offboard as more claiming it's not a problem. Just check last thread (which is the context wherein that post was made), people were unironically arguing saying "who cares" about discord.
>>39731312>. All of these have been uploaded to ponerpics.What's your artist tag? I want to see your sexy mares
>>39731663Well their biggest suppliers of oil and food just ragequit, so I'd assume they're busy scrambling to make up for those losses and not die in a fireball. But the logs show Bird was talking to nigger and considered him an ally, so who knows how they've worked together already, but it gives TNN an excuse to fight them.
>>39731690IMAGINE not stockpiling like I am.Mostly cause I don't trust anyone to keep the supply going.This'll atleast make me survive for a WEEK
>offboarder thread
>>39731663>>39731690The DL has an explicit NAP with TNN. And Tir has indicated to us that they intend to uphold it.If Tir initiates a war of aggression against the DL then that will be a breach of agreement far more grevious than anything TNN has done yet.Yes, we're on friendly terms with the Bloc because some of our interests align, and we cooperate on those interests. And we've remained in cooperation throughout this attack. But the DL has no intention of breaching the NAP - and I do expect Tir to hold their word as well, knowing that if they breach it, it'll send a signal to every single smaller alliance that nothing they say can be trusted and anyone can be attacked regardless of prior promises.
>>39731625Nobody in the DL has nations that have lived long enough to war yet and they just lost two big supplies of resources.From what I have seen the Bloc suffers from a similar issue in that only Detrot was/is war capable. TNN is likely going to take out Bloc nations one by one as their nations hit age 21.
>>39731614That's what people were arguing since the beginning
>>39731737For what it's worth, TNN also has no plans to break the NAPUnless DL does so first anyway, which to my knowledge they haven't.
>>39731739Doesn't that just seem like... A VERY unfair advantage if they literally can't defend their allies or attack their enemies? I mean imagine having the tools and other shit to fight but you just can't cause you are not three weeks old.
>>39731735
>>39731743You can send resources to defend, which is what you should be doing in any case, sending defenders is *very* rarely correct
>>39731612>peacelol, like TNN could be having that.Almost as if the hypothesized oldfag faction that'll steamroll everyone is eliminating their only potential competition right as expected.
>>39731737>I do expect Tir to hold their word
>>39731758>no more than 3 bloc members can join any one factionso this means if any 4 bloc members join a faction then TNN is at war with them by these terms? God these terms are so fucked can someone at TNN confirm they actually sent this shit?
>>39731758>peace>but you all have to disbandHold on a second. Isn't accepting this literally a downgrade?Previously the TNN told nations to bail and they would not be attacked. So the Bloc can just reject the "peace", every important nation can bail to some other alliance (like DL for example), and then Tir is left fighting Friendistant alone.Meanwhile accepting this garbage literally imposes EXTRA conditions with absolutely zero benefit.
>>39731758Doesn't this break the rule on self sabotage? Or whatever that rule about not having your nation be activity taken over
>>39731758Why do they want Detrot anyways? That fag is not even in the IRC which is where the evidence came from.>>39731765That does seem overly restrictive. There are 17 members in the Bloc and 11 other factions, 10 if you disregard TNN.
>>39731758>we have consulted the admin and this does not constitute a rule breach>>39731767Don't worry goy, the admin is part of their faction therefore by definition they can't break the rules.
>>39731758You literally just posted a peace treaty offer... I'd love to hear how you're going to spin this as "TNN refuses peace"
>>39731767No, cause rule 4 doesn't say it applies to discord users.
>>39731772See >>39731766Just because you title the document "peace treaty!", does not make it a peace treaty, especially when the terms are literally a direct downgrade compared to rejecting it and remaining at war.
>>39731772Now this? This is amazing bait. Best I've seen yet, I'm impressed Anon.
>>39731771>>39731775Yeah rule 4. Man this game just seems to get a bit fucked.
>>39731758>The admin has been consultedOh I'm glad the guy who's in your gay faction agreed that your demands totally don't violate the rules
>>39731770>Why do they want Detrot anyways?We don't, it's just that some fucked up ticks made Detrot (and Eggs) age 21 earlyThen we kill the bird.Then we get back to what we were doing before this shit got started.If you're going to take aim at the precursors at least learn how to play the game first
>>39731785this. here's some terms1. reset TNN to day 02. transfer ownership or leave TNN as the owner of the gameif these terms are not met then x y z anons will quit the game before they pass the open to war period
>>39731794%%==TSMT==%%
>Peace offer>But you have to give up everythingWhat is this? 1918 Austria-Hungary?
>>39731794>deletedthat was fast
>>39731770>Why do they want Detrot anyways?No reason. It has nothing to do with them wanting to acquire more Zebrica nations for copper and trying to score one through aggression, while still trying to paint themselves as the good guys. There's also no reason to just leave him be. Stop asking questions.
>Yes goy hand over the second highest GDP earning nation in the game or we'll take it by forceKill discordniggers. Behead discordniggers. Roundhouse kick discordniggers into the concrete. Slam dunk a discordnigger baby into the trash can. Crucify filthy discordniggers. Defecate into a discordnigger’s food. Launch discordniggers into the sun. Stir-fry discordniggers in a wok. Toss discordniggers into active volcanoes. Urinate into a discordnigger’s gas tank. Judo throw discordniggers into a wood chipper. Twist discordniggers’ heads off. Report discordniggers to the IRS. Karate chop discordniggers in half. Curb stomp pregnant discordniggers. Trap discordniggers in quicksand. Crush discordniggers in the trash compactor. Liquefy discordniggers in a vat of acid. Eat discordniggers. Dissect discordniggers. Exterminate discordniggers in the gas chamber. Stomp discordnigger skulls with steel-toed boots. Cremate discordniggers in the oven. Lobotomize discordniggers. Mandatory abortions for discordniggers. Grind discordnigger fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown discordniggers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize discordniggers with a ray gun. Kick old discordniggers down the stairs. Feed discordniggers to alligators. Slice discordniggers with a katana.
>>39731593The only thing we must offer, is gunpowder and graves.
>>39731758>its real lol.
>>39731743Classic noob misconception. Sending defenders is (almost) always a worse idea than simply sending resources to the nation being attacked to build an army.
Can we actually get that reset now? I thought Tir Nir Nog would be fine sitting at the top, not actively abusing their power on people playing for the first time. Even worse, the hostanon seems to be invested in being part of top alliance, despite being an admin. Maybe someone else could host the server?
>>39731833we can call for someone to do this but without anyone actually stepping up it wont ever happen, I too wish this could be the case. fun /mlp/ shitposting game instead we have reddit spacing faggot telling us in no uncertain terms that particular /mlp/fags can get fucked
>>39731767>>39731771>>39731775>>39731784>>39731785If everyone in the bloc were to leave the bird alone, he can do his best to defend against TNN, lose handily, and everyone else in the bloc would be safe. It's not a rule 4 violation to be scapegoated by your allies and end up too weak to defend yourself.
>>39731836That's a shame. Fuck it, I'm out. Don't wanna be no footstool
>>39731801>pic relJust putting it out there, if anyone wants to send material support...
>>39731839>If everyone in the bloc were to leave the bird alone, he can do his best to defend against TNN, lose handily, and everyone else in the bloc would be safeRight, it's just funny that the "peace treaty" also specified a max 3 nations per alliance rule, which otherwise simply doesn't exist.
>>39731842don't quit right yet faggot we might have a chance against TNN, better to go out fighting and leave tnn with 30 more nations so everyone can see the game is over
REMINDER>REMINDERREMINDER>REMINDER>hidden discord channels on a PUBLIC server>giving people roles>dark vessel owns the server>hostanon constantly socializes in it even though he said he will only lurk>hostanon is friends with tnn membersTHIS IS A DISCORDNIGGER GAME NOT AN /mlp/ GAMEDISCORDNIGGER GAME
Since TNN can only attack one guy right now the Bloc should just funnel their resources into Detrot and turn it into a killing field.
>>39731845if everyone leaves no one can stoke their power fantasy
>>39731839see >>39731805
>>39731852everyone wont leave, I have gmare friends that dont want to quit and 2 other friends other groups that don't want to quit
>>39731856enjoy your 3 months of wasted time then
>>39731844That's not a game rule, that's just a rule imposed by TNN. If you don't follow it, you're not getting banned. I assume you'll get attacked by TNN, though.My suggestion would've been to negotiate the peace offer for something less problematic instead of refusing it outright.
>>39731859give it a few days don't quit right yet, at least wait to the point your time defense is about to pop
>>39731847Meankwhile, on the #oldfags channel:
>>39731856The majority of people saying they're quiting are probably just salty Bloc members.
>>39731864>24 unique thread IPsIts a guarantee.
>>39731843
>>39731864its like you cant delete messages on discord- oh you can thats right!>>39731863and look who the cat brought outfuck off discordniggers
>>39731845We'll just burn our shit and leave if they come for us after the bloc. Stuff like >>39731847 really kills it for me.>>39731864Enjoy your dead game
>>39731872Feel free to make me, oh right, you can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
rofling at seething channers
>>39731881>>39731887THANK YOU for telling me that this thread is literally full of all you discordniggers
>>39731850Detrot is already a killing field, due to purely socioeconomic reasons
The Totally Not The Segregational States has a DEAL for (YOU)!!An apple!! For 10 milion bits!!What makes this different from the previous apple offered by the segregational states??It's an apple totally not being sold by a controversial war loving nation!! The Totally Not The Segregational States is full of cute and innocent mares, who's hard work you can practically TASTE in the apple!!
>>39731877>Enjoy your dead gameSo far today we have lost 2 players, and gained 11. Have you considered that maybe you aren't actually that important?
>>39731907>, and gained 11From reddit?LMFAO. Stop posting these generals on this board
>>39731544>>39731553>>39731556>>39731560>>39731562>>39731567It was me. I leaked the IRC logs. Originally these were shared in confidence with another anon for discussion, but I could see where the Bloc was going. They were going to work on attacking individual nations, amass resources, collude with other alliance in an effort to take down TNN. Bird just wants to replace TNN with Bloc. At least TNN seemed like it wasn't focused on *actually* steamrolling everyone else, unlike Bird. After a talk with DV, I decided gave the green light to leak them. Had to make a choice about who I'd rather see at the top, and I knew Bloc would win unless something happened. And yes, Bloc refused the NAP with TNN. However, I don't think TKoE should have attacked Bytesol just because he was the first nation available. So here we are.
>>39731918we figured it out yesterday.>trixiefags being cunts and ruining stuff for everyone elselike pottery
>>39731918Traitorous nigger.
>>39731916I have no idea where from, just pointing out your assmad faction is irrelevant to the health of the game, feel free to fuck off (◜‿◝)
>>39731918Wait isn't TNN doing the same thing too?
>>39731918
>>39731918Well, fuck ya
>drama was artificial>just an excuse to keep the thread on the first page/top of the catalog as long as possible to shill itselfThe propaganda team is powerfulBoth the Bloc and Tir are in on this!!OPEN YOUR EYES ANON
>>39731932this is now a fizzie thread
>>39731923Yeah, it's great for the health of game. However, I don't give a fuck about how healthy an offboarder game is.
>>39731936based
>>39731918You would rather the discordniggers stay on top than an anon who forged his own success? Fuck, if Bird could pull that off, I'd be upset, but I could respect him for making it happen on his own and not just being a cabal of faggots that surpassed everyone because they had previous experience. It would at least be a good story and make him a fun villain.
>>39731938The I can only repeat, feel free to fuck off.Or stay, your tears are hilariousYour call
>>39731938>Plays for weeks>Loves game>Fucks up>Loses>Rees about offboarders
>>39731947>psyoping this hardgiving you the benefit of the doubt, have you read this and the last thread?
>>39731948NTA but they're correct from where I'm standing
>>39731948Been around since the first thread. Cries about offboarders died down pretty quickly, then spiked again recently.From my point of view, you are the psyops.
>>39731943Bird didn't forge his own success. It's built off of everyone supporting him. The rest would've been built off of deceit. Maybe TNN isn't really any better. I don't know. I feel worse off about myself than I did before I started playing this game.
>>39731946Why don't you fuck off from this board?>>39731947I'm not a Bloc member>Start playing>Lots of fun with anons>A few offboarders, I guess that's ok>Discord is fine for game communications I guess>Keep playing>Now offboarders and discordniggers are the majority of players>No longer welcome here.jpg
>>39731967>Why don't you fuck off from this board?How about no? Imagine thinking you control who posts on 4chan XD
>>39731965I'm part of the bloc, I knew what the bird was doing, and I support him to end the tir nag nigger
>>39731976amazing. this is why we need to gatekeep and squash offboard niggers the moment they crop up. discord being in the game banner was an early warning and we gave them the benefit of the doubt and look what happened
>>39731967>Now offboarders and discordniggers are the majority of playersThere's like, a dozen TNN members, how do you figure that's a majority?
>>39731976>egs deeIt's not even trying to hide anymore, as if the other reddit spacing nigger wasn't enough
>>39731967When I looked at this, I assumed the grey people were /mlp/ and the pink were the discordniggers. Makes more sense considering the "reeee offboard discord trannyniggers" reactions
>>39731936>>39731940OH NO SHE'S HOT
>>39731979Because you can't compete? Maybe we need affirmative action for channers
>>39731967>Now offboarders and discordniggers are the majority of playersI thought TNN was the discordnigger alliance, and they've only got 13 members compared to the rest of the game population. Maybe the reason there's so many alleged discordniggers is that not everyone using Discord is an offboarder.>No longer welcome here.jpgNo one was booting anyone from the game or the board until people starting reeing because they lost at politics in a politics game.>>39731976pic related
>>39731982>>39731985thanks for proving even more so this isnt /mlp/. go fuck off discordnigger
>>39731990no u
>>39731990Or you'll...? Oh right, nothing. Maybe ree more I guess
>They made the first mallYou don't have to worry about it.>They were the first to reach the government types that aren't even in the guidesOh but you could have just looked at the source, totally.>They were the first to reach a million bits each tickShhhhh.The worst thing is that they still haven't made a statue, those fucking uncultured griffon bastards.
>>39731995yeah sure. ill ree until this game is dead
>>39732002Your poor mother, she can probably hear you even from the basement :(
>>39732004awwww what an adorable insult from a 1k lb hamplanet
>>39732006You could've at least called me a nigger, pathetic
>>39731861Yeah no my point is that if you simply reject the peace treaty, then you're no longer bound by that rule, as per >>39729432So it makes no sense to negotiate that treaty because it's literally a worse starting point for negotiations than starting from scratch
>>39731987>No one was booting anyone from the game or the board until people starting reeing because they lost at politics in a politics game.thats what really fucks with meall of this couldvs been avoided if 1st Trade Bloc had accepted that NAP with TNNfucking jewbird sold the game out to discordniggers
Channer tears are delicious. Should've joined the lunar cult.
>>39732012damn look at derpy's fat mare rump
>>39731918Why are you still posting here, go join your discord, traitor>>39731965>It's built off of everyone supporting himYeah that's how cooperation works in cooperative games, figures. Don't support him if you don't like him.
>>39732012Accepting the NAP would be selling out. War is necessary to ensure the offboarders don't stay at the top.
>>39732018NTA, but he has a point. The guy in the IRC had the right idea. Could've just accepted the NAP and broken it later, when they were ready to behead the TirNigNogs. If the lategame depends more on amount of players/nations than anything else, this is actually the best case scenario for them, with no real political repercussions for breaking a NAP they freely offered and were refused. The smart play was to bide their time and outgrow them, instead of showing their true colors so early.
>We attacked first but we are actually defending ourselvesWhat is this? The Roman Empire?
>>39732014Even Luna know who is better
>>39732036Accepting and breaking an agreement is dishonorable. We would behead the niggers, but in doing so we would become them.
>>39732018>be me>op>remember the game>was a noob in 2013>anons help find the game>it's dead>but it has sourcecode available>make interest OPs for a few weeks>anons actually resurrect it>be happy>see lunafag alliance>Lunaismywaifu.png>join>now I'm an offboarder
>>39732041>Human ass on ponyJesus fucking christ, not while I'm eating
>>39732045You can always - you know - leave.
>>39732041Whew
>>39732049No other lunafag alliances that are not "puppets" of TNN
>The literal host of the entire game, the guy who has the power to ban people, read through any messages and in the end decides the fate of the game is actively playing and siding with a powerful faction.
>>39732054You can literally make your own. There's multiple other lunafags who have little to nothing to do with the Discord cabal, and just happened to align with TNN because the latter gave them sweet words about protecting fellow lunafags, and the newfags didn't bother caring too much about the wider politics at play.You could've made your own board faction of /mlp/-based lunafags and allied with the other /mlp/ factions. I don't think anybody in any of the other alliances hates Luna in any way, there are no sunfag factions, this isn't a waifufag war or a lunafag vs sunfag war, this is a discordfag vs. everyone else war - where the discordfags just happen to be mostly moonfag, while everyone else has a mixture of waifus, including both luna and others.
>>39732043Honor is for the strong.
>>39732045>being a lunafagskill issue
>>39732068You overestimate my social skills
>>39732098Come on, you are socializing right now, right in this thread. You can do it, do it for Luna.
>>39731923>feel free to fuck off (◜‿◝)Nuke this general already.
I'm starting to understand why the thread was nuked back in 2014
>>39732102Yeah, this is not organising entire aliances and negotiating deals and stuff...
Whole situation reminds me of https://youtu.be/t9WMNuyjm4w
>>39731847Huh. I'm in the general discord, socalize a little bit, mostly just check on news updates. Didn't know a fuckton of super sexret channels were there. I'll be leaving now.
>>39732144>a fuckton>2>Both empty Ok, bye
>>39732171>never explains why they exist>actively hostile against anonsok
>>39732171Point of principal. A public discord should be 100% public. Something feels gross about having a odd division in it for specific people only. I don't really have an issue with discord being used, just that one peeve. I wish everyone in it well. Getting caught in the crossfire of drama (despite being a literal non-entity) doesn't sound fun either.
>>39732205I mean one of those was literally the administration chat, which also hasn't ever been used, surely you can see why you might want a private chat for that at least?
>>39732233>>39732205Admittedly, the oldfag chat was unnecessary, which probably explains why nobody has ever used it, but it seems like a weird thing to get hung up over to me
If you all let the discordfags take over the bloc its really truly over for everyone.
>>39732249So (you) keep saying But really it's just over for whichever blocfags don't flee
>>39732252TNN is clearly going to start coming after us one by one after they are done with the bloc. Read through the history of the game, this is a tale as old as time. Also who really wants to bow and the hell of a bunch of offboarders anyway.
>>39732253Nigga I'm in TNN, and I don't need to read the history, I was there
>>39732268>>39732252>nigga>reddit spacingPlease go back and leave us alone.
>>39732273How about I do whatever the fuck I want, and you do whatever the fuck you wantThe absolute gall
>>39732286>more reddit spacingI am doing what I want, I want to ask you to leave.
>>39732291Then carry on mate, just don't be surprised if I don't
>>39732294And then you are doing what you want, continuing to be a tremendous fag. If you were really from here you wouldn't be seething and replying to every post I make.
>>39732294keep on sucking dark vessels dick you little lapdog
>>39732299Mate, I've been on 4chan longer than you've probably been alive, don't mistake me not caring about your rules for not knowing them
>>39732308>>39729421
>>39732308>Reddit spacingSure you have
>>39732303Kek
>>39732311>RegularlyI wonder if this word means anything? Probably not rightRetard
>>39732308I have screenshots of posts I made in 2006, my senior year of highschool. You are wrong on both accounts: I'm both older than you and have been here longer than you. (You) are an offboarder reddit fag. Keep replying. Also if you really have been here this long, it's even sadder that you -still- dont understand the culture, keep replying.
>>39732312Once again, just because I don't give a fuck about your little "let epyc reddit" Ownage doesn't mean I'm unaware of itAbsolute cuck energy
>>39732308>>39732294>>39732286>>39732268Why are you reddit spacing on purpose then? Do you have brain worms, Tyrnigger?
>>39732233>surely you can see why you might want a private chat for that at least?No, I don't really see why what's essentially a public shoutbox for a game (that's only off-site temporarily until the onsite chat is improved) needs a secret administration channel.You know what needs administration channels? "Communities" and similar wankery. If you were running a whole-ass forum, you might need admin channels. And this highlights the problem with discord. What the game needed was literally just a chatroom, but a discord is never, ever "just a chatroom" - instead you've got a whole damn community being built, with adminstrators and moderators, and secret administration chats only accessible by those special roles, etc.None of that is necessary.
>>39732320>2006I'll grant you that's longer than I expected from somebody with such a thin skin, but still not older than meClose though
Can you fucks finally stop trying to orally rape each other and play the game? You hate discotdfag tirnanigs? Collaborate and fuck them over in game already, you have yourself 21 days of free uninterrupted growth, plotting and planning. Go at it.
HostAnon I think I found a bug, upgrading a Plastics Factory to a Przewalskian Plastics Factory takes an extra satisfaction per tick for each of those that you have So in truth, you get space for more plastic factories and one plastic a tick, but pay one extra sat for each too, which is not explicitly said there.Man, they are so bad, I regret converting them all now...
>>39732325Because I can, and triggering you amuses meWhy else do anything
>>39732327>calls me thin skinned>literally cant stop seething and replying to me.I just said thats when I had screenshots from, I've been on this website since damn near it's inception. Also why are you making up things?
>>39732332But anon, youre clearly the one triggered...
>>39732308>>39732322>>39732327>I don't care! I REALLY don't care! I'm gonna reply to every single post just to make it really really clear that I totally, completely don't care! I'm such an ebin oldfag, I gotta make sure everyone knows how much of an oldfag I am, AND I gotta make sure everyone knows how much I don't care - it's really important!
>>39732318and you have no knowledge of anything here. you only come for >CLOP which one of your allies revived. you are an offboarder and are proud of it.on the question of discord, why did you even think it was a good idea to make several different channels one being #memes and give out roleswhy did you not stop everybody from posting imageswhy didnt you make it just a chatroom and nothing moreits because youre all offboarders. disgusting.
>>39732333>Implying I'm even remotely mad Mate I'm loving every second of this thread, drama like this is why I play this gameNot making anything up though, but you can feel free to believe I am, not like I kept proof or anything.
>>39732342I didn't make the discord. As to why I didn't arbitrarily limit what gets posted there, why would I exactly?
>>39732344You cant describe any board culture from that time because you werent there, /mlp/ didn't even exist back then. You are quite obviously an angry, seething, offboarder faggot who LITERALLY can't stop replying to me, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see just how livid you are.
>>39732132Not the first time >CLOP has been compared to this. The similarities are really striking.
>>39732349because you and dark vessel are friends? clearly if you have zero sway over him youre either a lapdog or youre a yes manand because it was meant to be a chat? allowing images to be posted that easily leads to off topic talk and making channels specifically for that only persuades such
Small solo nation here, can someone link me to the discord please? I dont see it in the op.
>>39732331Is it one sat per tick per factory? Or are you sure you're not confusing the environmental penalties for a sat loss?The environment softcap is 1 advanced factory, and the divisor is 5, so e.g. 6 factories will be (6-1) ^ 2 / 5 = -5 sat/tick.7 factories will be (7-1)^2 / 5 = 7.2 rounded to -8 sat/tick.The main purpose is to give a separate building with a separate softcap, since the environment damage is geometric per building. So you can have e.g. 12 normal plastics factories (5 over the softcap of 7) and 6 prz factories, for a total loss of 5 each giving -10 sat/tick, whereas if you just had 18 normal plastic factories, you'd be getting (18-7)^2 / 5 = 24.2 rounded up to -25 sat/tick just from the environment damage.
>>39732355I didn't say shit about /mlp/, I said 4chan, you've almost certainly been on /mlp/ longer than me, well done?As somebody quoted me saying earlier, I don't even particularly care about MLP as a franchise, certainly not enough to circlejerk about it here Though I have watched the show, it's not terrible
>>39732349>why would I exactly?There we have it, straight from the horse's mouth. Those accusations of Discord inviting circlejerking, offtopic, and external drama? They welcome that. And are proud of doing so.
>>39732363Where do you get the idea it was meant to be a chat? Like, just a chat? It can be whatever it wants for all I carePlus, making a meme channel works as a psuedo-containment board
>>39732369Put on a trip right now because this is too rich to be realIf this is a falseflag I want it exposed, if this is real I want it to be provable
>>39732376No need, go back through the threads, there was a picture posted that proves it near enoughAnd I won't deny it if you ask. I'm here for the hardcore pbbg, couldn't care less about the theme, one of the versions I ran wasn't even MLP flavoured None of this is secret
>>39732369
>>39732383Topkek, that actually got a genuine laugh out of me, well done for that
>>39732382>And I won't deny it if you ask.Ok post it in the IRC then, I want this in screenshottable form
>>39732394Done
>>39732405I didn't say just post though, I said to post it. Specifically your claim that you don't care about MLP
>>39732369You seem to have poor reading comprehension. I said I've been here since the dawn of 4chan. I mentioned /mlp/ not being around back then because you have not mentioned browsing any other boards. You most likely checked out /b/ once, after hearing about it on gogaia or some other fag website and are now claiming to be an anon. You even said you stopped using 4chan in the mid 2010's. And now you claim to not even care about /mlp/, you need to go back.
>>39732410Ah, my apologies, I've been awake for a while, done >>39732413I said the mid 2000s, so maybe we both have terrible reading comprehensionBut like I said, you're welcome to believe whatever you like
>>39732368I removed all normal plastic factories for prz ones and noticed each I built was removing 1 sat a tick, didn't knew those too had env tick limits since nothing on calculationsStill, fuck
>>39732368But also, it happened from 2 - 5, build the 6th standalone to see if those were removing 1 sat each, and it did, so wouldn't fit that env calc
>>39732423No that was just bait to make you clarify. 4chan was launched at the tail end of 2003, most people consider 2004, so when you say "mid-2000s" youre basically admitting that what I said about you browsing /b/ once or twice is true. You need to go back also please keep replying, this shit is hilarious how you keep exposing yourself
>>39732420What does this mean
>>39732431To be completely honest I'm not even sure when I stopped posting here, if I had to guess it was 2007, maybe 2008I'd still call that the mid 2000s, maybe you disagree, but that's semantics Don't worry though, I'll keep replying, we're both getting something out of thos apparently
>>39732425>didn't knew those too had env tick limitsIt says that each one after the first starts giving environmental damage.As to what the damage actually is, that's not described in-game, but it's been discussed in the thread a few times and in the "Guides" drop-down there's a spreadsheet giving pre-calculated values for a range of examples.
>>39732441You are continuing to make shit up. Why do you want to be a part of this culture so badly? You cant name any boards you browsed or anything from that time period. You need to go back.
>>39732457Have you considered that I just don't care enough to even bother?As I've said, I don't need or want your validation, believe whatever you wish anon.
Random anon here, I'd actually be happy to host and admin the game on my own server, and commit to keeping it up and running, HOWEVER I wouldn't be able to commit to the time necessary to actually actively develop it like HostAnon is currently doing.>Would there be any codefags interested in continuing to maintain the code and provide rapid fixes, if I take over from HostAnon?>(Would HostAnon be willing to keep working on it? I assume the main point of getting someone else to run the game is to reduce your workload, so I would assume not.)>What about simply forking and running my own version of the game while HostAnon runs his? (Probably a bad idea, I don't want to make a hostile split of the playerbase even if I don't agree with how HA is running things)If I were to host it I would also obviously not actually play the game.
>>39732438Nothing special, just the diplomatic mission of the bloc
>>39732465Because you cant, and you're lying, admit it. You are some trollsome little redditfag who wants to run dissent and ruin this game for us anons.
>>39732467I think HostAnon would be happy to hand over admin of the game just to be able to play it without having to worry about the responsibility of staying unbiased, juggling two roles. He'd probably be willing to still work at it after turning over admin, judging from what he's said so far.
>>39732472Play a new tune anon, that one's worn out. Last I'm going to say on the issue. >>39732467I probably wouldn't bother to contribute, but you might find some other codefags, I wouldn't suggest a fork, but that's up to you, the joys of open source software
>>39732454>Environmental penalties slowly accrue after each one converted beyond the firstThat's the only thing said about environment, so wait, does that mean the theoretical limit is 1? Not that it lowers the evnironmental penalties after each one, since you can buy more than the normal limit by using those, but that the limit for those is 1 and it increases after that?Man
>>39732481>Last I'm going to say on the issue.Yeah I'm sureSee you in 50 more replies. Make sure to emphasies a bit more how much you don't care, too, maybe they still think you care at least a little bit
>>39732481Because you are a lying, offboarder faggot, I don't need to play a new tune, you've proven it over and over again.
>>39732485That's correct yes
>>39732472I thought this was an offboarder game.
>>39732364It's on the game page
>>39732492Fuck youre right anon, I forgot. Tyrniggers can have my marepussy then.
>>39732488>Last I'm going to say on the issue>"T-that means he's going to stop replying"Boy, you sure are a retard Plus, the obviously still think I care, though fair point that there's no point in trying to dissuade them from that.
>>39732485>That's the only thing said about environmentYeah every single building tells you it's gonna start giving environmental damage after <X>, e.g. 5 for oil combusters, 20 for basic factories, etc. For advanced plastic factories, that X is 1.>Not that it lowers the evnironmental penalties after each one, since you can buy more than the normal limit by using those, but that the limit for those is 1 and it increases after that?I'm not sure how you can read "you start getting penalties after 1" and interpret it as "it reduces the penalties after 1".It's still important late-game because of the geometric progression of environment loss. Like, if you build 50 factories your loss will be proportional to 43 squared, whereas if you build say 28 normal and 22 advanced ones it's gonna be proportional to 21 squared plus 21 squared.
>>39732498Cry about it
>I'll answer you tomorrow after I do research on which pones anons dislike.typical redditfag behavior.
>>39732569Who the fuck is this? I'm new to this game but whoever this is should be put to the sword in game.
>>39732576A tirnigger.
>>39732576It's literally the guy who's got his discord buddies to min-max the game and has just set out on steamrolling all the board newfags, sparking all this recent drama
>>39732580>>39732583I'll be honest. I don't have the resources or military to do much of anything, but fuck those guys. Good luck to whoever sets out on ending them.
>>39732583>all the board newfagsSo 2 guys?
>>39732576Its tkoe, aka an offboarder reddit fag and one of the TNNniggers thats trying to take down bloc2 (the anon faction)See the following posts:>>39732501>>39732498>>39732481>>39732465>>39732441>>39732423>>39732374Most egregiously: >>39732369>>39732344>>39732332>>39732327>>39732322>>39732308>>39732286>>39732252And so forth. THIS is who were letting take over the game
>>39732569Is that the sort of thing that even has a consistent answer? I've seen anons love/hate just about every pony.where the fuck woul I even start researching that lmfao
>>39732598Why did you include >>39732501 (Me)? It doesn't have the reddit spacing and I am also actually answering a question and giving actual data (that I had to research myself) rather than vaguely deflecting and going "ask me questions I can answer them later :))))"
>>39732583sounds like everyone needs to bumrush themhttps://youtu.be/Gm2x6CVIXiE
>>39732607Bloc's the only one going against them, or rather, they were the one that got attacked. Board unity is needed but its looking bleak right now.
>>39732569>some of YOU have shit taste :PI've never seen more obvious of an offboarder.>>39732605sorry anon I was clicking too fast.
>>39732595>>39732607The issue is board anons are also divided because the biggest board faction - and the one currently under attack, as the discordfags' biggest threat - is led by a griffonfag who's considered a jew. So some people are going "hurr kikebird getting what he deserves" and staying back rather than helping.Remains to be seen how this will play out.
Man, reading through this thread now makes me really happy that I didn't invest my time in this shitshow.
You fags will bump limit the thread when I sleep
>>39732614If only there was something he could've done to avoid being characterized as such and having this much trouble getting allies in a politics game. Truly, an entirely unfortunate, undeserved fate.
>>39732624>1 attack>this much dramaAnon, this is the most activity you have seen on the board in the last year
I have never read such obvious tryhard outsider faggotry in my life
>>39732632Yes but everyone else is still dumb>make a big alliance together>defeat the discordfags>game is free to be played by the anons>you now have a gigantic alliance so the kikebird can't attack anyone either>heck you can go attack the kikebird, or impose your own terms on him if you wantvs.>everyone just sits in their own corner>#2 faction (#1 board-centric faction) is destroyed>nobody else is anywhere near matching up to the discord faction>they rule with an iron fist>everyone just keeps sitting in their corner>the discordfags are kings of the game
>>39732641Organize it, then. Start the board sans jewbird faction. Use your own political prowess to lead the game closer to your vision. And don't tell me whining here is doing that, unless it's one of many things you're already doing, because this on its own is not getting anything done.
>>39732639DV, the guy who literally started a world war a decade ago, over which princess he wants to fuckThat's who you think is an outsider? Ok
>>39732649You need to go back, tkoe
>>39732652You need to make me, anon
>>39732649>literally started a world warthe power fantasy shit is real
>>39732653Lmao no I really don'tYou're a big boy now
>>39732653You type like an angry underage faggot. No one believes you're an oldfag. kill yourself.
I don't really get the stigma against jewbird. He got his name from giving out shitty deals at the beginning of the game, which he doesn't do anymore.
>>39732658... Yes... That's... That's why you would have to make meI'm not sure how you're not following this
>>39732663this. I joined the block like 5 days ago and there was no issue I just got sent like 10 million when I asked and fill orders.
_____ is an alliance of peace
>>39732660Do you think I was like, 7, when I started playing this game or... Just trying to figure out how your math works there
>>39732668You need to leaveBut nobody's going to bother making you leave, we're not your babysittersYou can sit here and not do what you need to, it's your problem, just letting you know
>>39732663>>39732669jewbird has been nothing but kind to me and I'm not even in their alliance. TNN has just been trying to paint him as the bad guy so DV and his discordtranny friends can take over without issue. I will be sending the trade bloc as many resources as I can to help them with the war efforts but I don't want to join myself and get targeted by the TNN world police.
based on those ((("peace"))) terms sent by TNN before, can TNN confirm now that they will declare war on any faction shown to have more than 3 users that were previously in the block?
>>39732672There are many things I need to do, none of which involve bowing to your petulant demands that I leave You're free to leave whenever you like though, I promise not to follow you
>>39732671You're in a thread vehemently and autistically replying to obvious bait for hours. Not only is it embarassing, it proves you aren't from here or at the very least, don't belong here. You need to go back.
>>39732679The peace was rejected though, so that agreement is not in force. So if they do that now it's going to be unilaterally violating NAPs
>>39732679The teens weren't agtred to, so no
>>39732663He made his bed, now he's lying in it. Newfags not having seen his kikery can have a different view of him if they wish, but everyone else go to see him at work. His reputation is established. I don't even have anything against it. Anyone stupid enough to have taken his deals deserved to get fucked and hopefully learned a valuable lesson. On that same token, we all got his shitty offers. Anyone not retarded enough to take his deals is aware that he's entirely willing to take advantage of you if he thinks you're that stupid, and he does think so. So if he gets fucked, as long as I get to enjoy the game afterwards still, then whoever fucks him over has done me a service, as far as I'm concerned.
>>39732688Wow I completely fucked that one up "The terms weren't agreed to, so no" >>39732683>Implying I'm responding to the bait, not creating it
>>39732683yes, you're clearly a master baiter
>>39732682>he's too newfag and stupid to realize hes talking to three different anons>>39732691>tnn propaganda.
>drama
>>39732700I would love to know how you've figure thatThough to be honest I suspect I'm mostly responding to the same handful of blocfags, which could be false.
>>39732700>tnn propagandaI wish.
>>39732696>>39732696>haha I was just pretending to be retarded, anons, really!
>>39732700Feel free to address what was said there, anon.
fuck it i'm going in kamikaze style. if anyone wants to go in as well they're welcome to, but if these discordniggers are still around i'm just gonna be done with this and go back to another game
>>39732707Oh no I'm not pretending anything I just enjoy shit stirring retards, which thankfully I can do while speaking completely honestly in this case It's an admitted character flaw of mine
>>39732713>another gameWhich game, anon? Tell me.
You guys are tricking me again.Somehow all of you found out I was getting bored of this game, you're making up drama to keep me interested, first the market manipulation, now this. You're all the worst, stop gangstalkingme.
>>39732714But you're not 'stirring shit' you're just embarrassing yourself further and further and looking more and more retarded by being incapable of banter, typing like you have downs, 0 good retorts, reddit spacing and general faggotry. Next you will say it was intentional! Only a ruse!
>>39732713Literally just message bird if you wanna help
>>39732716monster hunter world most likely. kind of want to git gud at gunlance
>>39732720Oh no, a bunch channers think I'm being embarassingHow ever will I recover :'(
>>39732735>a buncha channersIronic, conisdering that you're not from here and so desperately want our approval that you continue to try to save face after taking L after embarassing L.
>>39732742If I wanted your approval I'd be simping to you, not mocking you I know you people have issues with social situations, so I don't mind explaining that to you.
>>39732748confirmed simp
>>39732748But you are simping? That's why you cant stop responding to me. You are literally incapable of not responding and its hilarious.
>>39732753Why would I stop? This is amusing the shit out of me, and I have time to kill.
>>39732748this fuck is so autistic he doesn't even notice it
>>39732756See how you are my slave and follow my every direction? I am inside your head. You dream of nothing more than my satisfaction, now hurry up and reply again my pretty little bumpslave faggot.
>>39732716inb4 everybody moves to tribes game made by flutterfren
>>39732713These kind of games are meant to be a once a day check-in kind of deal, anyways. Come race with kart mares in the gaming thread while war wages here.
>>39732762PLEASE link this for me so I can get the fuck out of here.
>>39732762As you wish, my lord. though is slave mmmay speak out of turn, you do have to give me stuff worthy of response, or this stops being fun, for both of us
>>39732767Don't bother, the game needs another 12 hours in the oven. The game is also being developed by the same discordfags.
>>39732771I don't actually think that's true?At least indint think tribe anon is TNN
Play AoE2:DE :D
>>39732773hes literally in the discord
>>39732762>flutterfren has his own room for his game in the discord serverAnon, I...
>>39732780Half the game is in the discord Not everyone in there is part of any faction
>>39732064>>The literal host of the entire game, the guy who has the power to ban people, read through any messages and in the end decides the fate of the game is actively playing and siding with a powerful faction.I expected other oldfag alliances would return for a real challengeSince that didn't happen i'm not terribly happy with the current overall political situation, but will see how it plays out for nowFor what it's worth, i'm the admin first and a player second. If those two ever cannot be reconciled i'll retire as a player
I like how every five minutes they try to bring up "b-but we expected other oldfag factions to challenge us... it's not our fault they didn't come!" as if it was some kind of excuseLiterally nothing is stopping you guys from either a) not steamrolling the newfags, or b) splitting up into multiple oldfag factions, or c) maybe leaving the game if you aren't capable of coexisting alongside newfags. Yes, we've heard about fifty times about how you expected there would be more oldfags - well there aren't, and you are responsible for your own actions here
>>39732331i'm not sure of the expected mechanics here, will run it past the oldfags. thanks fren
><DarkVessel> What would probably be for the best would be for the more experienced players to all form their own alliancesHoly fuck, what a brilliant revelation. I sure wish fucking anyone could have thought of that shit weeks ago. You're a goddamn genius Dark Vessel.
>>39732851Like we've said several timmes, we expected other oldfag alliances, but we didn't even know who was an old fag, by the time we realised we were the only ones, it was a bit late. for what it's worth, I did consider splitting off, but then FFA came back, so I was hoping that would do the trickclearly it hasn't though
>>39732860See >>39732834
>>39732760When I read this back and forth between you guys, I'm reminded that 4chan attracts faggot human beings, even on something chill like /mlp/. CLOP will die again at this rate. Maybe sooner than before
>>39732748>>39732735>>39732369May I ask what your end goal is, then? You clearly have no interest in fitting in or fostering good relations with anyone, so what is it? Are you seeking attention? A dopamine hit? Do you seek to put others down to feel better about yourself? Are you attempting to "le epic troll" us, or prove that your offboard group is superior? Maybe you think that acting like this is humourous in some way? Please help me to understand your intentions, as they are a mystery to me
>>39732860>FFA came backYou mean the puppet state TNN created in the discord with mostly new members after begging people to join.
>>39732864Good little bumpsalve, you even got rid of the reddit posting this time!
>>39732861yes, but it's far too late to do that now, has been since we got the Bloc irc leak, clearly splitting after that would be suicide If the game resets, we will do it diferently
>>39732870Not that anon
hourly reminder, this is not a board game.
>>39732868Gee I wonder if I might have a better idea of the politics between FFA and TNN than you? >>39732864just creating some entertainment and killing time, nothing more, nothing less >>39732870that one wasn't me mate, don't tell me you're cheating on me with another bump slave :(
>>39732886Nah, I'm his bump salve.
>>39732882Of course not, it's a browser game
>>39732892>.< Reeee
Well then
>>39732924More off boarders, sounds like fun.
Maresaw is also in their sphere of influence?
>>39732946yeah no duh, they wouldn't suggest anyone take part in opposition they dont want opposition.
>>39732946Yeah saw a few mentions of maresaw having some oldfags in itKinda gay that we can't have our own game without a bunch of niggers just running it like their own kingdomEspecially now that they've fucked their reputation and I'd find zero enjoyment of working alongside them, even if at the start I might have liked to if the factions had been distributed more evenly
server reset when
>>39732958There was a poll, you just weren't invited.
>>39732958TNN decided that when they ascend and win the game, that's when the server resets :)
>>39732958You mean you didn't see the poll? It was posted to the discord.
>>39732972yikes, no regrets quitting.
>>39732972>>39732962misinformation. no poll yeti'm hoping to make an in-game poll system tied (as anonymously as possible) to your user. so only people playing the game can vote, and it can't be rigged with bots and suchas far as a reset, there hasn't been a single battle actually fought yet. i'll monitor how this plays out and issue the poll if tnn start steamrolling
>SELL AT LEAST 1 MACHINERY PART IN THE MARKETOR YOUR MOTHER WILL DIE IN HER SLEEP TONIGHTis it my pony mom
>>39732467>Random anon here, I'd actually be happy to host and admin the game on my own server>If I were to host it I would also obviously not actually play the game.do you play currently, or are you the tech anon who likes "causing shitstorms for reasons some might think are ideological"?Have you been an admin for anything similar previously?If you don't have time to dev, how would you have time to admin? I find the latter takes far more of my time in having to watch how the game is turning out, and what /mlp/ wants out of the gameThere's also cheat detection, tech support, enforcing the rules etcWho would have final say on feature changes, and what should be introduced into the game? QoL improvements no one would object to. But if we end up wanting to overhaul mechanics entirely, who gets to decide on thatWhich decisions of mine do you disagree with, and how would you have done things differently?>Would there be any codefags interested in continuing to maintain the code and provide rapid fixesi'll contribute if the game is run well. we have had some abysmal badmins before possibly myself included. if it goes to shit i'll quit as a dev and player>>39732467>What about simply forking and running my own version of the game while HostAnon runs his?that would get confusing real fast in-thread which version people were referring to
What's the point of the game if ya'll get angry over over peeps playing the game, you guys and gals need to chill. You should have expected the best faction to attack the cities once they were open to war.....
>>39732992>if tnn start steamrollingStop playing ignorant. You know you're going to. We can see how far ahead you are. You know how better planned you are. You know the advantage you have for war. You just don't want to deny your fagbuddies their little victory they can stroke their ego over.
>>39732778Hind, is that you?
>>39733015>are you the tech anon who likes "causing shitstorms for reasons some might think are ideological"?no, that anon is me and I'm not the anon you replied to, who offered to host. I'm not ready to accept the responsibility to host such stuff for such audience, and I was kinda shocked by your yolo approach compared to my cautious denial, but hey - I'll help where I can, as a bystander.>>39731406all checks out except for the responsibility, see above. Also I think admin of a game should have some experience playing the game, not just be an oblivious hoster. Current hostanon at least knows what's going on in the game.
>>39733086i'm in tnn, but not leadership to know internal plans like thathave you been reading the thread, fren? i've been very vocal against steamrolling and the like. if it happens and we don't reset, I probably won't stay in tnn. tnn have a large advantage now, but as the game progresses nation counts matter more than how build up they are. so it really depends on how things play out
>>39733015>we have had some abysmal badmins beforew-well fuck you too
>>39733015>do you play currently, or are you the tech anon who likes "causing shitstorms for reasons some might think are ideological"?I play right now, but I would stop playing if I were to take over hosting.>Have you been an admin for anything similar previously?Well, on the technical side, I've ran some services before (including for the board). On the social side, well, I've never even seen anything quite like >clop before this, but I've administrated some small game servers before, and I've ran or helped run some projects for the board that were organised in threads.>If you don't have time to dev, how would you have time to admin? I find the latter takes far more of my time in having to watch how the game is turning out, and what /mlp/ wants out of the gameMaybe I'm being naive, but is there that much effort involved in adminning the game? Other than making sure it runs smoothly, the rules are enforced, etc., generally I expect you mostly just let players do their own thing. With the rules having been battle-tested for what I believe was more than a year of the game running continuously, I don't expect there should be a lot of executive admin decisions necessary, should there? Feel free to call me naive.Cheat detection/enforcing the rules - I'm not 100% clear on what this takes, but I assume it's mainly monitoring new nations and checking for duplicate login IPs to catch people running alts. I assume neither the original admin nor you did this by manually perusing the list of IPs to spot duplicates, but rather have some queries or automated detection for that... right?Overall, the short answer is that I don't lack time so much as motivation to dedicate continuous time working on things. Spending some time here and there to reply to tech support, check for cheaters, etc., isn't a big deal. Getting a todo list of coding tasks is the best possible way to get me to procrastinate for no less than two years before ever opening the game's codebase again.>Who would have final say on feature changes, and what should be introduced into the game? QoL improvements no one would object to. But if we end up wanting to overhaul mechanics entirely, who gets to decide on thatThat is an excellent question. I don't know who should decide that, but I'll raise you who definitely shouldn't: an active member player of a major faction, involved in highly controversial politics.Ideally, I was thinking an in-game polling system would be ideal, and apparently you had the exact same idea as me which is nice to see.(1/2)
(2/2)>Which decisions of mine do you disagree with, and how would you have done things differently?Honestly? Not many; I don't think you've been a terrible admin. There are two really egregious things that I highly, highly disagree with, though: firstly, linking the discord in the header and keeping it there even when an alternative arrived. Let me be clear: if I were to end up hosting the game, there would never be any discord "associated" with the game. Players can of course congregate wherever they wish, I won't and can't stop them, but promoting a discord server as essentially officially-endorsed is a disgrace to the game.And this isn't just me being a schizo: this thread has been an absolute goldmine of discordfags saying things like "yeah I don't really care about the board" or "I don't even browse /mlp/" or even "I don't particularly care about MLP". For a game that's meant to be an /mlp/ game, catering to board anons, linking the discord where those people crawl out of as an official chatroom for the game is simply egregious. Unless you don't even care about making it an /mlp/ game, in which case why even make the general.I do care about making it an /mlp/ game and would purge any mention of discord from the website, and make it clear that no official discord exists or would ever exist. I would naturally not be reachable in any discords.The second thing I disagree with is the blatant conflict of interest between you being the administrator and at the same time an active player in one of the most active and politically significant factions. Things like Rule 4 forbidding any sort payment for giving up your last nation, and you A-OKing trading a peace deal in exchange for one's last nation, just do not sit right with me at all when you are literally in the faction who is offering that deal.Maybe I wouldn't even disagree with that decision if you had been an impartial admin. I admit it's a somewhat grey area; the rules are in bold saying "giving ANYTHING in recompense for the last nation is banned", but maybe peace isn't something you can "give"? I'd argue that it is, but it's a judgement I might not normally have felt strongly about. Ultimately it didn't even have any impact since the deal was rejected so it's not like it was some major mistake that needs to be rectified.But I cannot possibly reconcile the fact that you are LITERALLY just OKing basically your own deal, which is in a very grey area, but you (specifically, your faction) are the ones sending it so it's fine.>>39733015>that would get confusing real fast in-thread which version people were referring toYeah. Well, the idea behind that is that the offboarders and discord server pals could play on your instance, and /mlp/ could play on its own instance. But yeah as I said myself this would be a pretty petty "fuck you" and would almost certainly not work out and do way more harm than good, unless literally every single player wanted this exact solution and agreed to it.
>>39733134>w-well fuck you tooI like where this is goingadmin ERP when?
>>39733137>I assume neither the original admin nor you did this by manually perusing the list of IPs to spot duplicatesNo, of course I never stared at phpMyAdmin to catch people running multiple accounts with constantly changing IPs on the same subnet! That'd just be silly... and paranoid... ehehehehe....
>>39733086>Be blocfag>Exhausted after days of scrambling around>Spent the whole day planning how to war and repel invaders>Tired as fuck, but quietly confident>Managed to gather resources from secret allies across the game>Running psyops in the thread to demoralize turdnanugs from going too hard>Finally sleep, knowing the next day is the start of Bloc's golden age>Smirk to self in derision>Those tardnanegros won't know what hit them>Wake up>Open game>Login screen saying you gotta pick a region to start the game in>Gape in confusion for 2 seconds before going to the thread to complain about shenanigans>Tirnignogs must've used some secret oldfag trick to attack and take the nation during sleep>Maybe the badmin helped them cheat>Discordniggers must be fellating each other in mutual congratulations for their successful power fantasy faggotry>Thread is acting like normal>No one's calling out the obvious offboarder faggotry going on>Everyone's just discussing how they're choosing their new regions or how they're doing in the market>Confusedly look around carefully>Turns out HostAnon reset the server to avoid looking biased>Some retard from a different alliance kept pushing for that and needling HostAnon specifically>There was a poll with 13 votes asking for a reset>Didn't even wait to announce it or anything>After all, HostAnon felt secure in the victory of toonignog>Some of the other blocfags are conspicuously not showing up anywhere>All the efforts of the last few days wasted because the psyops were too good>Sigh one last time before starting a new nation>Maybe jewbird will keep playing>You've got wedgie pics you didn't get to use, and you could use a rimjob
>>39733151I think >>39733155 is all we're going to get
>>39733155ayo Im in need of these wedgie pics
>>39733153*>phpMyAdminI need to get around to setting that up. Right now I SSH into the EC2/Docker and manually run queries on the database...Automated detection is planned, but urgent features keep taking priority>>39733137>Maybe I'm being naive, but is there that much effort involved in adminning the game?I thought it would be next to no time investment on my part. Just throw the game up on some hosting and have a comfy game with horsefrensInstead, it's taking every available moment of my time, and maybe 1/3 of that is dev work. Maybe you could do a better job than me, and stay out of the drama. But then you would be missing context for when you need to rule on things>the rules are enforcedpeople will rules-lawyer and subjectively interpret any decision that doesn't go in their favor, especially rule4. Someone will disagree with every decision you ever make, no matter how minor, so you are always in the wrong>duplicate login IPs to catch people running altsjust a duplicate IP isn't enough. You need to investigate both nations for things I won't disclose here since it could make evading cheat detection easier. After you have determined they are a likely cheater, then contact both nations to get their side of what their behavior means. At least, that's how i've been running things, not wanting to be too heavy handed. Thankfully overall the game has been well behaved, much better than previous iterations which were rife with cheating>you had the exact same idea as me which is nice to seeso in-game polls for mechanic changes? works for me, absolutely rules out any claims of favortism>>39733144>active and politically significant factionsThis claim is kind of moot. if i'm a player at all people would accuse me of helping my alliance and/or friends in tnn.Even if I wasn't a player, the speculation would still be there. Which is a partial concern of mine in handing over ownership to a random anon - knowing that you likewise won't abuse the position to advantage someone, install malware or whatever. Everyone is advising me in private not to cede ownership, but i'll still consider it if there is someone better suited, and we can sufficiently mitigate the risksIt's interesting I was a player since day1, and asked several times if anyone had an issue with that but got no response. The screeching of 'admin advantage' only started once war broke out>LITERALLY just OKing basically your own dealThere was internal debate about if the terms of the bloc peace offer is a breach or not. They ran it by me for clarification before sending, just like any other player should do if there is doubt.Their original offer was a clear breach, so I veto'd it. I was planning to share those chat logs for context, but on second thought the situation with bytesol is still ongoing, and I don't want to bias that. I'll share the logs once the current attack is resolved, so you get an idea of the kind of things you will be dealing with
>>39733648>Instead, it's taking every available moment of my time, and maybe 1/3 of that is dev work. Maybe you could do a better job than me, and stay out of the drama.What are you even doing? I see you write a post in the thread maybe 3-4 times a day. (Not saying it's not enough, just that I don't see that taking too much time.)In-game you've repeatedly said you aren't part of TNN leadership and aren't involved in the major decisions and negotiations. Are people messaging you about random shit all the time, or something?>Which is a partial concern of mine in handing over ownership to a random anon - knowing that you likewise won't abuse the position to advantage someone, install malware or whatever.A fair concern, but you're also just a random anon, you just happen to be the guy who launched this new version first. But I'd have no more reason to run the game into the ground, if I take over, than you do right now.>malwareLmao it's a website, I'm not gonna buy some browser 0day from the cia to infect an autistic game with like 100 players.>Everyone is advising me in private not to cede ownershipIn the Discord? No offense but I'm not surprised the TNN faction, of which I presume some (or many) are friends with you, and who've enjoyed official promotion of their server for the game, is not enamoured with the idea of someone taking over who isn't their friend and who explicitly intends to remove all mentions of discord from the game.Elsewhere? Fair enough.>It's interesting I was a player since day1, and asked several times if anyone had an issue with that but got no response.I don't remember seeing you ask that - but, to be fair, I only joined partway through the thread after it had already been revived, so I wasn't here from quite the very start.I have, however, seen people post about this concern already. However, people still expected Tir to not go to war instantly, and kind of just expected them to be just another faction that'd be gathering power in the background alongside everyone else, so the politics weren't too relevant and I'm not surprised nobody cared enough quite yet to raise a big stink.And yet as you see now - and I'm not the first one to bring up this complaint, mind you - once things get heated, it's not a good look to have a direct conflict of interest involving the major parties.Like the peace deal. I'm undecided on whether I disagree. Maybe I'd have ruled the same. The clincher though is that you ruled the grey area directly in favour of your own faction.
>4channelers
The league is committing seppuku.
>>39733733Godspeed my fellow defamers. Totally Not Changelings will be sticking around though unsure if I am keeping in the alliance.
>>39733733KWAB
>>39733733The off boarders out number us even more. Why is this game even on /mlp/ at this point.
>>39733733Guess I need ANOTHER alliance now. Why does every alliance I join evaporate?
>>39733733Host anon said he will bring back nations who did this sucks to be them now they are just free food for the rest of us to get.
>>39733763Join TNN
>>39733764They weren't being attacked stupid nigger
>>39733763You destabilize them with your presence anon.
>>39733769doesnt matter
>>39733764>>39733773During a fight, not just out there>Dashflaggots non-existant IQ
>>39733766What benefits will I gain
>>39733775>Dashflaggots non-existant IQmad because I know more than you about the game i play and listen to the admin okay retard wharever just watch
>>39733781>What benefits will I gainbased on the trend, tnn will disband once you join
>>39733786Fuck you've got a point
>>39733786Corelation is NOT causation retard
>>39733783Sorry Dashie, your interpretation is incorrect, and I apologize if I wasn't clearer about this earlier.Sabotaging your nation is only an issue if you do it while attackers are incoming, to prevent it being captured. Doing it just cause you want to rage quit is fineI'm considering making mechanic changes to automate the process - something like if attacks are incoming and your nation dies, it's instead transferred ownership to a temporary admin account (where ticks will not apply) until the attack finishes, where the nation transfers to the attacker who would have claimed it originally
>>39733796dashfag btfo
>>39733783What do you have to say now, retard?
>"I lost..."
>>39733796Nuclear dashfag destruction
in fairness to dashfag, it's canon she can't understand anything by studying it. should have had someone explain the rules while she flew by instead
>>39733796you are making a bad choice it hurts the health of the game if people ragequit please consider transfering ownership of those nations ot people or allow people to take them over but whatever its your game
>>39733796Total Dashfag Death
>>39733808I disagree.
>>39733813THIS
>>39733808>you are not allowed to quit!
>>39733808>please consider transferring ownership of those nationsYes admin you should just give them to Tir, since the DL was going to get attacked anyway and these nations were killed to avoid a takeover from Tir! It's only fair, I'm sure everyone will agree :)
>>39733808the rage quitting is a protest about discord existing, I think. I couldn't quite understand their argumentas for if there should be other ways of getting nations such as dead ones becoming zombies that could be claimed by anyone, this kind of mechanic has been debated before. I'm undecided on what is best, since it largely removes the incentive for war
>>39733808bruh if you wanna watch number go up so bad go play cookie clicker
>>39733818
Ainesmark how dare you lower the price of oil. Allah frowns upon you. A curse on your house.
>>39733820War has already proven to be a disaster for this game
>>39733819i know your making fun but you do have a point they were bound to be taken over evetually and someone is now missing their neew nation that person was robbed and it is not fair to them
Ainesmark I'm giving you a full supply of machine parts and vehicle parts next turnThe hero we needed
>>39733824Oil should not cost more than 10k. 1 oil gives 10k gdp when not altered by satisfaction so that's its price.
>>39733829Filthy infidel. All true sons of saddle Arabia will turn him away in his time of need.
>>39733830>not altered by satisfactionnobody sits at 0 staisfaction retard
>>39733827can we all agree those suicided nations should all go to dashfag?will all die to mismanagement within a couple days, so it's fair to everyone
>>39733835Give them all to the newest player
>>39733834Don't care. 10k = 1 energy = 1 oil. Simple as and end of.
>>39733830Copper should not cost more than 10k either, I agreeApples shouldn't cost more than 2k
>>39733827>it is not fair to themno resources were committed to attacking those nations, and it's impossible to know who would have conquered them eventually
>>39733845no oil is 20k everyone is sitting on 1000 sat wjy would oil countries sell for a lost?
I'll sell oil at 10k if someone is willing to buy it
>>39733850Me I will
>>39733848maybe someone had troops on the way you dont know that so someone might of been robbed and be down resources because of quitting cheaterd
>>39733857I can't tell if bait or just retarded
>>39733857Their nations were not old enough for troops to be on the way.
>>39733857What a funny little guy you are
>>39733826What's the point of playing then? If there was no threat of war or conflict what's the point of building up your land, you've basically won after making a farm. Suffer and prosper.
>>39733859making troops takes resources and if you disband them if you dont need them like people say you should you loss resources what is there not toget?
>>39733865Whatever you say bro
>>39733864But there's no "threat of war and conflict" once the one big guy from offboard rolls everyone from the board. Nor can you "build up your land" at all if you fucking die in the early mid game because the top faction does not understand the concept of a fucking cold war and just wants to eliminate all potential competition asap.
Damn bro, you got the whole squad laughing.
>>39733867whatever i was just point out how hostanon is covering for cheating quitters and they will not be ppunishe din the slightest i think they should be ip banned from the game for cheating
>>39733875>Tirniggers are this retarded
>>39733868>Anon lost to a changeling instantly Maybe next game you should, you know, prepare?
>>39733875This poster is small and diminutive
>He even forgot how to speak english
>>39733875How fucking drunk are you?Wait, are you scat fetish youtube guy?
>>39733875I have been debating quitting for the last 2 days and if you're psyoping me you're doing it right because im about to pull the trigger.
>>39733875>ip banned from the game for cheatingd-did dashfag take the 'not allowed to quit' meme seriously?to clarify - anyone can quit at any time, you can't force them to play a game about starving virtual mareshowever, nations cannot be suicided just to prevent them being captured. sure, this kind of thing happens in irl warfare, but it means there would never be any nations captured since everyone would explode them if they cannot defend
>>39733880>a changeling??The DL was the faction with the most changelings and it's slowly dissolving. Tir is the moon autist faction
>>39733888why would you quit it is a fun game and it only gets funner as your nation turns 21 how old is your nation wait for war and it will relight the spark you had when you first played the game
>>39733897what's your nation, dashie?i'll send you a friendship delegation when you turn 21
>>39733892>'not allowed to quitthat was my suggestion and i sitll standby it quitting only hurts the game and people who invested many hours into this game will be cheated
>>39733897>I want nations that quit to be up for grabs>w-wait till you can be attacked and loose all your shit to some smug egg asshole then it might be funfuck off
>>39733896Dark vessel is a bugfucker anon.
>>39733896Yeah there are literally two changeling nations in the DL. I don't know any other faction that has them. Not sure what that other anon was on about.
>>39733902>Yeah there are literally two changeling nations in the DL.What are you talking about. I don't see a single one!
>>39733905I see two
>>39733916Low iq moment
>>39733918check for youtself retard
What's wrong with a discord?
>>39733921Went right over your head
>>39733924nothing it is better than the irc, nobody tells the password to get into it
>>39733924Bait post?
>>39733924fuck off offboarders
>>39733680>Are people messaging you about random shit all the time, or something?in game, on irc and on discord. though that's largely feature requests / feedback on game mechanics / asking clarification on mechanics & rules, so depending on where you draw the line on where your responsibilities end, you might be okay>explicitly intends to remove all mentions of discord from the gamewhy would they care? the discord was made to supplement the terrible in-game comms. for a game about market trading, inter-alliance deals and war, to not have fast reliable communications is a large disadvantage. I have considered removing the discord link, but not everyone will use irc due to tech being a barrier for entry, so i'm conflicted on what to do there not wanting to disadvantage some players. the obvious solution is to get in-game decent and remove any mention of discord/irc, but that takes time>But I'd have no more reason to run the game into the ground, if I take over, than you do right nowIt comes down to character. I know my own, and don't think my actions have caused anyone do doubt it thus far. You are literally an anon at this stageAlso, I cannot know your motivation. All i'm seeing is a hate-boner for the existence of a discord server>is not enamoured with the idea of someone taking over who isn't their friendIn fairness, I do more heavily weigh the opinions of veteran players for game mechanic suggestions. This is true regardless of alliance or friendship, since they understand the game having played it longer. Many of the overall feature requests I get would be terrible for the game. This is also the double-edged sword of making all mechanic changes by vote rather than someone having a final say. You get what the majority wants, but you also get what the majority wants>I don't remember seeing you ask thatI did 2-3 times in the first couple threads when the game went live. No one even answered, so I assumed implicitly people were okay with it, provided I could keep my player an admin roles separatedEven with TNN having a large resource advantage and most of the veteran players, no one complained until war broke out>The clincher though is that you ruled the grey area directly in favour of your own factionI dislike these assertions, fren. You don't know the context of what was discussed in private yet, and are making moral judgements on my characterPlus any decision on rules is a precedent, which would need to decided the same way for fairness in the future, so it's kind of moot
>>39733924it makes me piss myself
>>39733927>nobody tells the password to get into itthe irc password? you don't enter one initially, then set one once you join and register your nickname
>>39733932if the game brings people to the board it makes them "on boarders" retard I been here since the gane launched and i really think you guys need to calm down and take a breatheer
>>39733938no wonder you are so retarded
>>39733938OFFBOARDER BEGONE
>>39733938My brother in Christ, posting on the board does not make you one of us.
>>39733938
>>39733940i am here to stay i really do like some of you guys and some threads are nice but the bored is pretty slow sometimes and it can honestly use more people so we should advieste to more people so we get more content faster you understand what i'm saying? no bad blood between us
>>39733938lurk more, pleaseon-boarder is about culture, not platformit's gatekeeping intended to keep /mlp/ pure
>>39733949If you have not been here long, perhaps you do not understand what is best for the board.
>>39733949I hope your mother dies of pancreatic cancer
>>39733949>we should advieste to more peopleplease don't advertise on reddit, if that was going to be your suggestion
>>39733949BasedI will help you advertise.
>>39733951>keep /mlp/ puremlp is always pure we all love mares and we all will until we die from old age
>>39733959>love maresbut do you fuck the horse pussy?
>>39733934>and don't think my actions have caused anyone do doubt it thus far>
>>39733949this guy gets it. board could seriously use some actual new people. not just this literal horsefuckers
>>39733963i prefer the term horse bits because that also includes futas mares and they deserve love too
>>39733969diediedie
>>39733969Still debating if this is genius demoralization or genuine faggotry
>>39733975>genius demoralization or genuine faggotrycan't it be both?
>>39733975It's obviously bait
i still dont understand how to join the irc i tired looking at the advance options and i see no option to make a account maybe I will just stick to in game chats and discord for now hopefully it can be integated into the game later on
>>39733949>>39733938
>>39733978SEE >>39733937
>>39733983oh i think i understand so its not in the advanced options? maybe im jusrt retarded sorry
>>39733964the direction of the game, changes to game mechanics, and deciding how rules will be interpreted this iteration of the game will always have some people disagreebut does anyone actually believe i'm cheating or abusing my position in some manner?though that said, IRC-Anon got accusations of leaking logs, and they don't even play the game I don't think
>>39733975The one thing he messed up with his newfag RP is he left the name field empty, which we all know is the pitfall of true newfags
>>39733989just enter a name and click connectYou are actually retarded
>>39733975>>39733976>>39733977>>39733991Just pointing out that the first instance of dash flag in the thread did not have a unique IP.>>39733764
>>39733934>I have considered removing the discord link, but not everyone will use irc due to tech being a barrier for entry, so i'm conflicted on what to do there not wanting to disadvantage some playersHonestly, I think that while the guide for signing up to the IRC could be better, the game is not some kind of product where you want to optimise user conversion metrics. If someone is truly too retarded to sign up, it's going to be a rare loss.The flip side is those who don't care enough to even read a guide or go to an external chat, sure. But the people who don't take the game seriously enough to bother aren't going to be the ones making use of an external chatroom either way.>It comes down to character. I know my own, and don't think my actions have caused anyone do doubt it thus far. You are literally an anon at this stageOh yeah, from your perspective, definitely. Mind you if I were to run it into the ground, you could always restore your own (and we could arrange sharing periodic backups or whatever).Regardless, yeah, it's a matter of trust, I get that. You did put out a public call to see if anyone would be willing to host, and I can say that I'm willing (for now), the rest is up to you on how you want to vet help that you accept.>Also, I cannot know your motivation. All i'm seeing is a hate-boner for the existence of a discord serverWell, I gave two reasons: impartiality, including optics of impartiality (I would avoid participating in any faction in the game), and avoiding discord. Though I would also say that it's not just avoiding discord specifically, but rather catering to /mlp/ rather than offboarders (and I don't think there needs to be any more proof that the discord players are full of offboarders).>In fairness, I do more heavily weigh the opinions of veteran players for game mechanic suggestions.This is certainly smart and I would probably do the same (considering I'm a new player and so probably even less experienced than yourself when it comes to the actual design and balance).>Even with TNN having a large resource advantage and most of the veteran players, no one complained until war broke outLike I said, that's because it went from "hmm, the admin is in the one faction that has lots of offboarders, I don't like that" to open conflict with that faction. Everything escalated.>I dislike these assertions, fren. You [...] are making moral judgements on my characterI should clarify. I'm not making moral judgements on your character, I'm making judgements on the optics. It does not behoof you to make judgements that directly affect your own faction, WHILE playing actively as part of that faction.I'm not saying you're biased (I have said several times that I wouldn't necessarily strongly disagree). I'm just saying that there's a clear conflict of interest, and as long as you keep playing there's the potential for more conflicts, and I strongly believe that this should be minimised or eliminated.
>>39733958kino post
>>39733927>>39733978Underage zoomers OUTCome back when you were born in 1990 or earlier
great now dashfag is in the IRC
>>39733733do people have short term memory loss or something? those two already declared they were quitting in the last thread for good reason
>>39734016whats the good reason? I dont think there is ever a good reaosn to quit and act like a sore baby because people use discord instead of irc they are probably off borders anyways because i think someone posted the game on reddit
>>39734024anon we all know youre baiting by nowplease go back to bait school
>>39734027so you dindt name 1 good reason so clearly there isnt any one and you just wanted to make your voice heard its okay buddy we all been there no bad blood ballar
>>39733999re: discord - you have convinced me, link removedinstructions for IRC cleared up hopefully>I'm making judgements on the opticsapologies for overreacting then, frenstill figuring out how to vet for this, but i'm interested so far. say hi on irc or in game and we should figure out the possible specifics
>>39734016What about the third guy? Is the rest of their alliance quitting?
>t. Burrozilian that just farms and occasionally sells apples in Lunar ProtectoratesI don't know what is going on in this thread aside from TNN fighting 1st Jew Bloc but you fags need to buy some of my appuls
>>39734116dashfag is protected by tnn, who would of thought
>>39734101>wait for the discord protesters to ragequit>then removes the discord linkAbsolutely devilish, HostAnon.
>>39734116why is a dashfag in a Luna-themed alliance?
>>39734121they had it coming, they really got on everyone's nerves.
>>39734121maybe the real friendship was the nations we got to suicide along the way
>>39734124I am Rainbow Dash's stallion. Plus both princesses are great but Luna is slightly better because I am a night person and luna WAS given less attention from her bigger sister. She's also more aesthetically pleasing and the dream realm is better than the physical realm where things are limited. I could sperg out all day about it. But both princesses are great and I really really wish they wouldn't fight each other! (Going with Luna tho)
This is a an idler spreadsheet game, why is everyone mad?
>>39734230Everyone always gets mad at nation simulator games, even ones non-pony. It's tradition.In general people get mad on the internet for no reason on a daily basis. Also fuck you faggot for asking the question.
Tbh this game is super boring now.Nobody even wants or needs my resources. There's no real point in growing. I have a shitload of everything except copper and not much to do with it. There's no real point in selling, either, because bits are borderline useless.
>>39734268>Build up your nation for 3 weeks>Immediately attacked by Discordniggers>The overly complex war system makes your head spin as you attempt to create a defense, while Tir already has everything figured out>Its only a matter of time before they break through and take your nationThe very thing that was predicted from the start has happened. This isn't fun, I don't think I want to play anymore.
>>39734268you will likely be in a cold-war soon, if not an overt one>>39734282>Immediately attacked by Discordniggersbytesol? bad luck being the oldest bloc member
>>39734282Is not súper hard, just use excel
>>39734302What now?
If 4clop is going the way of Blocgame don't worry frens, we got at least another 10 years of constant bitching and moaning and (perhaps if hostanon allows for it) resets.This will eventually be followed by him fucking some thailand traps, getting HIV/AIDS, and forgetting about the game entirely. Enjoy it while it lasts!
>>39734308We posted the cheat sheet anonWhy aren't you good at war yet?
>>39733875>ip ban ragequittersYou're a special breed of retard, aren't you.
It's looking like TNN will succeed in their attack. Whether you believe the "leaks" to be genuine or not, they have demonstrated that they will start a war over hearsay. Further, they have shown that they WILL attack an innocent third party, who was not implicated by the evidence they presented. Remember that, according to them, it was JewBird who was plotting against them and not their victim. They are completely without integrity, and I have no doubt that they will strike again. I have a message for everyone who disapproves of their invasion.We outnumber them.Don't ragequit like a pathetic faggot just because they're strong. Don't devolve into petty squabbling, and definitely don't join them. This is the time to build yourselves up as quickly as possible. All the alliances should be banding together and making an oath to each other that a line will be drawn in the sand. TNN will one day fail to steal more nations, and their teeth will shatter against a massive, united defence.I am not proposing we attack them. In fact, I am not proposing any form of retaliation against them. But we must be ready to protect ourselves. Even if you have agreed to nonaggression with TNN, it would be madness to rely on mere words to ensure your continued existence. Do not by any means violate your agreement, but know that it is not an assurance of your safety.I encourage you to reach out to your alliance leader and ask that he seeks mutual defence agreements with every alliance to secure yourselves against this threat. If they refuse, I urge you to jump ship to a more organized entity. We may not be able to retaliate, but together we can endure.
>>39734675>Innocent third party>Literally part of the alliance
>>39734675>continued existencewe must ensure the existence of our mares, and a future for horse smut
>>39734675What this Anon said. Who the fuck cares about discord server or IRC. If you need allies and there's a problem with those communication methods(I don't know if there is, I don't use either) then the messaging system on the site is perfectly suitable for trying to find them. Get your shit together, find friends and prepare for a fight whether there will be one or not. To do anything else is a skill issue.
>>39734686Correct. He was innocent. We have seen no evidence to suggest Bytesol planned, coordinated, condoned, or was even aware of any plot against TNN. He was a small time player who wouldn't have been privy to the secret plans of JewBird.But you knew that, you're just running damage control.
>>39734715Either a newfag or merely pretending, then. There's no such thing as being an innocent third party when it comes to alliance warfare. Not when it's the leadership of your alliance that's doing the plotting.
>>39733938>Literal honest to god redditorGo and stay go
>>39734757So when party A commits a crime, party B is responsible despite neither having aided nor abetted, and despite not having even KNOWN about it?You might actually be retarded so we'll go with concrete examples instead of abstract. I know that halfwits have trouble when they can't put names on things. Is it justified to punish the state of Bulgaria because of the Haditha massacre? The United States is part of NATO and they committed a war crime, therefor all members of NATO are war criminals!
>>39734769Feel free to equivocate and apply all the sophistry you wish, newfag. You don't sway anyone that has any knowledge of how the game works, and thus has any real power. You're effectively screaming into the void.
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>>39734769wars are at the alliance leve, not the individualit's why alliances have treaties like NAP with each other, and not a long list of individual members it would apply toI agree it would have been better to wait a couple days and strike the bird instead, but the irc leaks of planning to war no matter what are a valid casus belli
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