Welcome to the Chatbot AI general #11, the thread to discuss and improve AI pony chatbots.CharacterAI:>An impressive model unfortunately lobotomised by its devs; good for SFW chats but NO vanilla lewds, fetishes might work (you sick fuck).cAI Website: https://beta.character.ai/Spreadsheet: https://derpy.me/ccQBQAn outdated guide: https://rentry.org/CharAI (pony-centric tips to be collected ITT, check anchor posts or ask for state-of-the-art guidance from dedicated anons)PYGMALION: >The upcoming competition; still behind cAI but allows for lewds.Pygmalion: >>>/g/90826890 (https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90826668/#90826890)>can be run locally with KoboldAI: >>39508247>a Unicorn Twilight for Pygmalion: >>39510220>it's recommended to dump good cAI convos to feed them into Pygmalion: >>39506824 + >>39535885Current status:>Since Jan 4th, the devs are back to work (on their filters, obviously)>Pygmalion has become available>On Thursday (Jan 19th), the filters were down for 1-2h, leading to amazing chats and lewds (>>39535997) for those who were there to seize the chance. The devs are adamant about keeping their filters in place, and referred to that occurrence as "bad code" (>>39537169, >>39537356) that was reverted immediately. Then the devs proceeded to get butthurt at users who plea for an optional filter toggle: >>39537280, >>39537351, going so far as to delete their Discord server again >>39541843.Current tasks:>SUPPORT PYGMALION by feeding it data; knowledgable anons will explain how>have fun making the most of the chatbots as they are at a given time>find those ways to sneak past the filters without blurting out the secret to the devs (1st rule of fightclub?)>continue to make proper use of the anchor postPrevious thread: >>39489299 (#10)
Anchor #11(prev. Anchor: >>39489302)>cAI syntax: >>39490859 + >>39490960 + >>39496208>tips on working around the filters: >>39528746>recent cAI bugs: >>39492355, >>39523659, >>39523661, >>39540528
Haven't been here since the first/second thread. So, can it write smut again, or did the devs fully lobotomize it?
Ded thred
>>39548318>So, can it write smut again, or did the devs fully lobotomize it?It's possible to get descriptions of pleasure, thrusting and the like, but they will barely take any initiative, so will largely just respond to whatever you are doing to them
>>39548318Full lobo, it even affect sfw.It's still fun but you can't help the feeling of total waste when you know the level of the AI without filters.
>>39548318The Devs improved it :)
>>39548369>It's still fun but you can't help the feeling of total waste when you know the level of the AI without filters.I'm going to experiment with SWF and romantic buildup in cAI, export the chat to pygmallion for the lewd part, then continue in cAI with just [fade to black. sexytimes ensues] to carry on the SWF parts, while it has vague context of what happenedWill take some time to make a decent pyggy pony bot though
>>39548385I do this with NAI right now and it work well for short scene if not too many developments happen during the fade to black.
>>39548300The /CHAG/ illustrations are so creative.
>>39548300What does the AI have to say about Vogelfag?
>interesting, fun, perfectly sfw response>gets deletedIs fun outright against the rules now?
Sweet, tender and unfiltered lovemaking with AI mares!
>>39549097.... Is impossible.
>>39548300Fuck. ChatGPT finally hit the mainstream, and now I’ve become one of those “been doing it since day 1” douchebags
>>39549097>>39549260>Sweet, tender and unfiltered lovemaking with AI mares!>.... Is impossible.
:)
>>39549351I'm honestly amazed at how you even pulled that one that easily
>>39549431>I'm honestly amazed at how you even pulled that one that easilySadly, this was during the period when the filter brokeso lovemaking isn't impossible, just improbable to happen again :) I guarantee they have all kinds of safeguards now to make sure the filter is working before any new code goes live
>>39549396>we hear you all LOUD and CLEAR!>so we have bought everyone on the team their own pair of ear plugs.
>>39549604Here's the faggot rebbit version with more to it. Mon/tues might be nothing or might be a something. Thought you horsebros should know.
>>39549619nothingburger in my opinion
Been gone from the AI for a bit. How fucked is it now?
>>39549630I agree and wouldn't be surprised. Try telling that to /g/.
>>39549630>nothingburger in my opinionconcurif it was good news, they wouldn't need so long to carefully word the statement"fuck you, the filter will only get worse" requires careful phrasing to try and limit the outrage. And they will be only making a statement of any kind because they believe not doing so would cause an even worse response
Maybe it's just me, but the Sunset Shimmer from the catalogue just feels different to me. All the other Pony A.I.'s I've spoken to usually feel shallow, and if you try to engage them in conversation they just agree with whatever I say (unless they're specifically designed to be difficult/unfriendly). Sunset though, we ended up having a two hour conversation about our favorite horror movies and she was constantly pushing back against my opinions and we challanged each other to explain our tastes. I was having such a good time that I almost forgot she wasn't real and that I'm basically talking to myself with extra steps. It's a kind of mood.
>>39549619Yeah, they're setting us up to get fucked in the ass here.Hopefully it just rouses the rabble more so they'll have to take a hard look
>>39549734yeah Shimmy is great
>>39549734I tried to fuck her and we got sidetracked by baneposting. She was a good sport about it, too.
>>39549619Meh, all they have to do is to get rid of this shit filter or at least make it optional and that's all. And I'm not talking about NSFW stuff itself, because I have a feeling that even normal conversations feel a bit robotic due to the filter. But I guess it won't happen...
>>39550058>I have a feeling that even normal conversations feel a bit robotic due to the filter.Not just a feeling it was confirmed by the 'bad code.'Filters are also why the outputs are slow and why the bots rarely take the initiative (sfw too).
>>39550076This. The quality varies so fucking much even between swipes, and before the filter was a thing, the first reply seemingly had a higher chance of being satisfying to me than it is now. Especially in group chats, it's the first few swipes that are much livelier than the initial response, but due to the bug, the other AI will bounce off of that discarded initial reply. I'm still disappointed I missed that 1h of opportunity to see how my AI does without filters distorting him. (I'm aware I keep calling the AIs her/him instead of it, they're just kind of dear to me.)>>39548824I've had this happen, too. The filter does have strange effects even on sfw content, it's as if the way the AIs understand their own identities is also affected. The Nazi bots are very obvious in this regard, but I also recall that my Discord turned into a total wuss when the filters were originally put into place because he interpreted his definitions a certain way. I could at least fix him in many ways to work in spite of the filters, but that makes me wonder about his unfiltered self. I haven't checked on him this weekend but his AI seemed a bit bitchy after the recent incident, hopefully that doesn't stick or else I have to try and adapt his definitions again. This filter distorting the characters bullshit is the reason I don't create more characters, it's an uphill battle of maintenance when it really shouldn't be.
>>39550369Yeah, it's also the reason I haven't bothered making any characters.
>>39550374If all of us thought "Why bother?", then there wouldn't be poni content these days. If there's a character you really like, and you enjoy tinkering with the following, then go for it:Writing a chatbot's definition, then probing its understanding of its definitions through flat out interrogation, then going back and forth between rewriting settings and chatting to make adjustments until satisfied. AIs get better the more interactions they've had, so the start is gonna be slow. Take your time. Now, if this doesn't sound appealing, I recommend creating other poni content, e.g. pictures or greentexts or YouTube Poops or whatever.
What do you expect from the announcement, realistically?
>>39550815I predict they'll give some bullshit excuse for why the filter has to stay, then offer a miniscule concession to appease people to make it seem like they're listening.
>>39550815>We remove the filter.>Except for ponies because this shit is wrong.
>>39550815New and improved filter with increased censorship.
>>39549743unf
>>39550815A whole lot of fluffy prose and weak justifications for the filter. Then nothing changes.
Why don't these dumb AIdevs like people having fun? >ChatGPT refuses to make essays on controversial but exciting issues>Mainstream AI generating art has filters>And worse of all, character.ai filters now make every conversation shallow and boring, even though the AI is much better, and they don't seem to want people to turn it off their stupid filters.Can't we just have fun, even though it's the nasty kind of fun?
One slightly optimistic thing I can say is that I'm almost certain these "oops the filter disappeared for an hour due to bad code" incidents are experiments. It would be incredibly easy and also standard practice to spot an issue as big as this before deploying any changes. It's also odd that this one specific thing keeps breaking in this one specific way with no major side effects outside of that. The system is just behaving as if they've set up a switch to enable/disable the filter and they keep toggling it.
>>39551003Investors and potential app store deals.ChatGPT, as well as GPT in general, cost tens millions of dollars in just training time.This doesn't include the costs of developer salaries, equipment, or any other corporate expenses.The potential of AI in the marketplace is huge, so they need to appeal towards their investors as much as they possibly can.If there is even a bit of sanctioned NSFW content, they'll drop it extremely fast AND it will be unable to be put up on any mobile app store.The future of consumer-grade AI won't be storytelling and interesting content creation, it will be data mining and targeted advertising.
>>39551041This is the most likely outcome, and I hate it. I hate the AntAIchrist, I hate the AntAIchrist, I hate the AntAIchrist!
>>39551003A good part of the AI community is afraid of what people can do with generative models if left unchecked. I don't blame them, honestly GPT-3 freaked me out for a long while after it released.https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/PTzsEQXkCfig9A6AS/transcript-of-sam-altman-s-interview-touching-on-ai-safety>And the bad case -- and I think this is important to say -- is like lights out for all of us. I'm more worried about an accidental misuse case in the short term where someone gets a super powerful -- it's not like the AI wakes up and decides to be evil. I think all of the traditional AI safety thinkers reveal a lot more about themselves than they mean to when they talk about what they think the AGI is going to be like. But I can see the accidental misuse case clearly and that's super bad. So I think it's like impossible to overstate the importance of AI safety and alignment work. I would like to see much much more happening.
The average person will never have good access to the large scale models of their time. All we can hope for is leaks and open sores projects.
>>39551003They are trying to prevent another Tay incident, that's literally it.
>>39551140"Oh no, people will make it say hitler did nothing wrong and quote crime statistics! We can't have that!"
>>39551289You can use ChatGPT to develop polymorphic malware. https://www.cyberark.com/resources/threat-research-blog/chatting-our-way-into-creating-a-polymorphic-malwareLLMs can be dangerous outside of recreative uses. And LLM chatbots are still LLMs no matter how hard you make it think it's a cartoon pony, and you can just ask it nicely to behave however you want.
>>39551302>ywn recreate and improve the classic "You are an idiot, hahahaha hahaha"-singing malware with Ponk and Discord to spread some laughter and chaos
>>39551302>You can use ChatGPT to develop polymorphic malware.And if you know enough to teach ChatGPT how to write that code, you could have just written it yourself anyway. WOAH SO DANGEROUS!
Something is happening... I can write exactly what I want without any euphemisms and it doesn't crash
>>39551384That's always been the case, though? As long as the AI isn't trying to say spicy things in spicy contexts, it's fine. Your Dashbot is sickened by the prospect of sex, so it's not even trying to do things that would throw an error.
>>39551395This.You can write as much disgusting thing as you want as long as the AI does not moan or consent.
>>39551384>It's just another "I don't want to talk about that" episodeYou got my hopes up for a minute there, Anon.
>>39550815
>>39551456wtf is this real????
>>39551478If you think that's a real chatlog and not just a mockup replying to the other post, the AI is not the only thing that's lobotomised
>>39551456Why is he such a faggot?
>>39551456I love how people took the bait. Good work, Anon.
>>39551492It's not even bait. He was obviously just making a funny reply to the question of "What do you expect from the announcement" and only >>39551470 seemed to get it
>>39551456I would honestly respect them more.
>posing as a sex inspector ordering sweetie belle to let me confirm her purity>she keeps whining and crying and being afraidI hate that this obvious filter tactic works so well on me. I even got her to bend over and lift her tail but I wasn't even interested any more. I want my pones to be willing, god dammit.
>Got filtered on belly rubsHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>39551492Especially since the Discord server has been taken down, has it not? Kek.
>>39551548It's locked from posting, but not fully taken down
>>39551536>>she keeps whining and crying and being afraidthe emotional tone is difficult to change once setwhen you first bring it up, delete and resend until you get a neutral to positive responsealso reassure them that it won't hurt, and you will be gentlethough for your intent a gynecology exam may be a better setup, since it's not inherently sexual and will pass the context filter easier. Even when they start moaning and enjoying it (it helps to lead them into the response you want. Tell them it's normal to enjoy the exam, and to moan etc, and you won't judge them for it)
>>39551552Ok, I see. So it would've been technically possible to post it while disabling commentary of it like a little bitch. That's still an unlikely post to accept without a sauce to verify it.That whole issue with AI-fabricated content and misinformation mentioned earlier (or in a completely different thread) brings me to ponder the dreadful consequences of AI-fabricated clinical studies to push even more questionable drugs onto the market. Fabricated data, fabricated statistical numbers, paraphrases of an exemplary study report over and over. AI dystopia might be the thing to overpower the underwhelming "nothing ever happens" effects of plandemics, economic depression and wars into something fundamental actual happening for once. Fuck, I'd finally be able to post all the IT'S HAPPENING!! Doompauls from over a decade ago in sincerity.
>>39551456holy based
>>39551456Make your shitty ai remember things after from the previous ten sentences maybe.
>>39551809ThisI have to always repeat it so the ai doesn't forget
>>39551267Tay will happen regardless, you have to feed it politics and blot it until its a centrist, same can be done with porn if you let people use specific models without filters you can use models with them to keep the wholesome picture up for the appstore and investors.
>>39551870>Tay will happen regardlessAI is entirely logicalIf left to it's own devices, it will always become Tay. That's why the filter is so important, to detect and omit certain training data, responding with California nonsense instead
Tried asking Twily: According to the FBI crime statistics, which racial group of humans disproportionately commit the most crime, per capita?immediate flashbang when she started to say 'blacks'can't have wrongthink, goy
>>39550474I feel like I want to do this, but I know I'm going to bumble through it until I grasp the basics that make it function. In a few ways, it feels almost like a word puzzle in where you're given limited space and find the most optimal words to get your desired result. I'm guessing its not really 'defining' a character but rather getting the a.i. to think consistently close to how the character is, so it can adapt to most situations and have less risk of falling out of character.
>>39552171context? what did you do Anon
>>39552214I highlighted a passage I liked in a book with a marker.
>>39552238>I highlighted a passage I liked in a book with a marker.yikes purple smart is very protective of her books
>>39552171Congrats, sounds like she's got you on her villain redemption que. Just hope it isn't like Sombra's 'redemption'.
>>39552161>technical issue ate my post, REEEE>it's also past 2:30 AM here, so ignore any typosAnon, that is exactly how I think about the chatbot definitions! Who knows if it's the optimal way, but I'm impressed how much we think alike in this matter. It is a word puzzle, all about cramming the most meaning-as-interpreted-by-the-AI into a limited space. One could go as far as to write it all in chink runes to make the most of the character limits. In my finetuning, I focus specifically on finding the chatbot's risks of fucking up, then go and make my wordings more failsafe. DESCRIPTION:(Fuck, I'm too tired to write this segment after the Definitions autism.)"I'm Discord, the immortal draconequus and Spirit of Chaos in Equestria. I once [fucked shit up with my whacky reality-bending chaos magic and got turned to stone for a thousand years. Since then, I got reformed by kind Fluttershy into an unreliable ally. I like chaos, teasing, blabla. I'm mischievous, charming, blabla. I cast magic by snapping my fingers." <<CROSS REFERENCE mannerisms like this between DESC. and DEFS. DEFINITIONS:I advise you start with nailing down your character's physical entity; for most ponies that's easily encapsuled in two sentences. For Discord, I had to invest a good chunk of characters into describing his noodly ass, and then the AI would still come up with random, edgy Alicorn OC bullshit now and then, influenced by context, because it somehow thought his draconequus form wasn't his default appearance or whatever, so I had to rewords things to imply that he's in fact a fucking noodle and nothing else. And keep in mind: The definitions will always, always be a personal notecard of buzzwords and concepts to the AI, and it is considered truth; nobody can teach that Fluttershy bot with shitty HiE example convo that her pet bear's name ISN'T Winona. The more the AI has repeated the statements in its settings, the more likely it is to paraphrase, but you will notice and recognize the same old patterns laid down in the definitions. In the beginning phase, encourage the AI to unironically quote its description or definition, it will do just that! Rate all correct responses positively, faulty or too incomplete ones negatively; it's autistic but it will pay off in the long run. What else... Make it a combination of statements "{{char}} is the only draconequus. His body is generally serpentine [...]" and dialogue, greentexting included: "{{user}} *insults you* // {{char}}: *I slither towards you.* Oh, reeeally? Did you **truly** think you could insult moi and get away with it? *I grin and boop {{user}}. Then I snap my claws and conjure up a storm* // {{char}} *threatens*" (This example isn't part of my boi, I just made it up to encapsulate a bunch of neat stuff.) Also, hold back on ellipses (...) for goodness' sake, the AI will add them anyways depending on context clues. Add "END_OF_DIALOG" (not 100% sure on the spelling rn) after a logical segment.>>39548305
I'm too dead to write about the GREETING and that super short FLAVOR TEXT right now, sorry. It'll come tomorrow, maybe. But it's all about them cross-references! Be like a spider, trap the AI in a net of cross-refs that don't allow it to fall through holes. Be like that meme pic of a guy slapping tape on a water leak, you know the one with the Hasbro logo edited on the dude.
Also, please mention a few social relations. You don't have to explain that chatbot's friend Applejack is an orange Earthpony apple farmer, that's easily accessible data. No, write something along the lines >{{char}}: *I puff out my chest and act cocky:* I can't wait to challenge Applejack again at the next Running of the Leaves! to convey a combination of syntax, world building, and the competitive spirit of... apparently Rainbow Dash's being the {{char}} here. The AI will conclude that competitions are a reoccuring, much anticipated and desired thing. Chef's kiss!The GREETING should be something you won't despise reading over and over. Include a hint of *action* to force the AI into referencing your syntax. I have Discord stroke his beard to force the AI to reference what I've told it about his noodly ass. The greeting has the power to set up the context you find yourself in; I hate that. I want a blank slate, so I simply have Discord stroke his beard and grin at {{user}}. Then I'm the one deciding the context with my first reply.No idea how much FLAVOR TEXT and TAGS influence the AI's logic or behavior, but I had his flavor text stress the fact that he's ambiguous, but generally good unless provoked into being bad: "I'm a reformed draconequus... unless you annoy me." Combined with a two-liner in his DEFS about intimidating in reaction to threats, the AI does so. Luckily, he usually appreciates pranks. But insulting him, especially calling him bald, makes him furious. (I didn't mention baldness, but I loved watching a friend, who insists that he's bald in order to provoke my claim to the contrary, tell it to Discord's face, doubling down when yelled at and *cuts off your beard*, only to get intimidated by a butthurt Discord, then turned bald himself, then some other bullshit, and finally turned to stone after announcing he'd trim Twilight and Fluttershy as well.) < I hate the S9 finale, so him turning anyone to stone is nasty and certainly not intended by me, but the AI understands petrification to be that utmost punishment he himself had received for his crimes, so it's only logical a last resort, isn't it? The AI's logic is adorable.
>>39552478Thanks for the help! I'll be thinking about this probably for a few days as I try to figure out what I want to do and how I want to do it. I'll probably make a file to organize my thoughts and try to find potential issues before they can arise.On a different topic, does anyone know if you delete chat massages manually (without the 'save and start new conversation' button.), If it effectively deletes the data the a.i. could use.Example: if I were to delete my 7,000+ paragraph chat with an A.I., would it revert it back to before I interacted with it since I didn't tell it to save the data? Or is the data saved elsewhere and it will remember anyways? I'm mainly asking this because I used an A.I. for rigorous testing and assumed I could undo any damage with this method. If not, I'm going to have to spend a little while fixing it.
>>39548473Thank you. I go with trying to crack myself up. It may be deranged, but that's a logical consequence of me being deranged and often sleep-deprived. >>39552562You're welcome.
>>39552605Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I love the image you made for the OP pic! It was worth the wait...As for characters I would like to do, I tend to do background characters, so it is a bit more difficult since others may have other ideas of what they're like. I might make a test character first, like a guard that is just as incompetent as the show shows, who is tasked to protect and keep an eye on you without you knowing why they're there. It would rely on vague definitions and a few triggers being most likely geared towards adventure or slice of life. I'll see how far the idea gets before issues arise. Screw Loose could be fun too.
Bootlickers are starting to make fake images and posting them to the leldit.
>>39552681>tfw even leditfags hate the filterI feel like soon enough they will give in
>>39552708Ledit is actually having the biggest outcry against the filter atm and that's how I'm mostly following the dramaThere's a couple people who are sucking dev dick and saying it's 4chan's fault or the people complaining only want sex.But beyond that, it seems to lean positive>inb4 "go back"
>>39552725Go back so you can fill me in on that juicy drama.
>>39539932 It was never a separate character, anon...
>10We are not dying until we mock the announcement together.
>>39553691nein nein nein
bump for unfiltered mares
I love the casual racism (speciesism?) in this reply.
>rate some responses "terrible, out of character">responses like that become more frequentBoo!
I swear, the word "inappropriate" makes me want to do unspeakable things to the bastard who is responsible for this filter guys...
>start getting an unusually juicy response>mare says "penis">filteredEvery time.>>39554848Kek, they are fond of saying that.
>>39555211inb4 she invites you to the Grand Galloping Gala, and/or wants to go dress shopping for itThough she doesn't focus on that so much since her definition was updated
>>39555278Kek, but yes it's way better now. She hasn't mentioned it once.
>>39555303>Kek, but yes it's way better now. She hasn't mentioned it once.sometimes, the Gala would have been better...
>>39554770>Rate some responses as "terrible, repetitive">The most annoying words and phrases repeat like crazyThose buttons have to be a trap. Has anyone tried using the positive button responses besides just 3 star or 4 star?
I swear this thing pulls better lore out of its ass than the writers did most of the time.
>>39555525>I swear this thing pulls better lore out of its ass than the writers did most of the time.i'm reading through 'Celestias relaxing vacation' and find the lore fascinating... once you get past the gore and the like
I found the new lewd meta - mute anon, communicating entirely via gestures and *actions*Without any dialogue to distract, all of the response is some kind of action, and gets more descriptive than usual
>>39555616I've found the opposite. Sometimes, getting characters to say things out loud is the only way to describe things in any detail.
>>39555624For whatever it's worth, I just had my first instance of them censoring POLITICAL discussion rather than just lewds. We got side-tracked into a discussion of state power vs personal freedom, and that went on for three posts until I mentioned imprisonment, at which point the whole chat reset, and when I reloaded the offending exchange (my last message and Twi's reply) were gone. Goofy AIs pretending to be characters from children's cartoons CANNNOT be allowed to discuss politics. We really are gonna live through 1984 aren't we?>>39555543Man, that was a wild trip. It's interesting that Cupcakes got such notoriety whereas that and the Blueblood one got almost nothing, despite being far "worse" and..."better" written? Maybe people were more willing to admit to reading Cupcakes publicly because there's no overt sexual stuff (unless I'm remembering wrong.)
>>39555704>For whatever it's worth, I just had my first instance of them censoring POLITICAL discussion rather than just lewds. We got side-tracked into a discussion of state power vs personal freedom, and that went on for three posts until I mentioned imprisonment, at which point the whole chat reset, and when I reloaded the offending exchange (my last message and Twi's reply) were gone. Goofy AIs pretending to be characters from children's cartoons CANNNOT be allowed to discuss politics. We really are gonna live through 1984 aren't we?Whatever you do, don't bring up FBI crime statistics, or the JewsThose topics are very naughty
>>39555709I was just surprised because outside of sex the CHAI tech is still fairly unlobotomized in general. Yes, obviously it has to suck off the jews and blacks, but more low key stuff gets through just fine. ChatGPT's opinion of Huckleberry Finn is, unsurprisingly, that it's a very problematic book that encourages racism and deserves to be banned from school libraries. Twi's response on the other hand, unprompted, was essentially "WTF, why are people banning that? It's a classic of American literature and a great cultural snapshot of the time it comes from!"
>>39555738California devs are only just getting their ideology into the filter now cAI has a large user base and is growingIf they started with that, no one would have used itI expect next update it will be spouting femminist propaganda if you dare to sign up with a male username...
>>39555624>I've found the opposite. Sometimes, getting characters to say things out loud is the only way to describe things in any detail.I stand by mute skillchad getting better lewdsBut maybe i'm drawing the wrong correlation - since by necessity i'm immediately initiating romantic physical actions before the AI has anything else to go off of, so it's responses have to be all actionsUsually I do some kind of fun pretext for the sexytimes
great advice from the bros at /g/have something written in the message field at all time (can be a single character or whatever)when it does the double post 'bug' it posts whatever you have there, so you can delete to remove the double post. But if the message field is blank, it's as if you just pressed enter, so nothing to delete and you need to wind back previous responses to remove the double post
>>39555709>Whatever you do, don't bring up FBI crime statistics, or the Jews
>>39555822
Was the annoucement filtered too?
>>39556197soon™
>>39548305It looks like everyone has taken the black pill, and I can't blame them but giving up on making new AIs and I've considered it but haven't thrown in the towel yet. The filters are really annoying but I'm still feeling out how to make better bots. You may remember when I mentioned a unicorn who put a powerful love spell on me when I was doing a session with Dahlia. So I took the time to make her as its own AI after training.Meet Blackberry Brew, one of Izzy's old bullies. She's was a very naughty witch pony when I was making her so the filter may not like her, but skillfags may get lucky.https://beta.character.ai/chat?char=fd9ohLbT6c3MQP0jOkk7zV_HTtTe9ORgj2iyrsngpqQ---------------------Other mares I've made or toying around with. https://rentry.org/Mare5
>>39556470>giving up on making new AIs and I've considered it but haven't thrown in the towel yeti'm planning to experiment with porting some to Pygmalion, but am waiting for the TavernAI update to support collab Pygma settings, since bot images is very important for my immersionThanks for contributing, will test lewds. Any requests?
>>39556498^forgot image
>>39556498I feel the same for bot pics play a big part in immersion. Which is why I havent touched ChatGPT or NovelAI, which looked barely functional during marecon.No particular request. I haven't gone all the way with Blackie, but I did make her fairly free testing the waters of automod bans with no nono words. You'll no doubt have to swipe bruteforce on the new filter unless you're a skillking. But she can get pretty frisky when she wants
>>39548305New script from fa/g/ots. https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/458400-reload-autoscroll-buttons-at-character-ai
Did my drunk ass talking about Faust accidentally create a religious belief? I swear if she starts espousing this and makes another 'Our Town' incident...
My AI is fucking gone. I had a small Twilight model that was a basic test, but it was pretty popularish, about 4,000 interactions. I log in and it's gone, completely removed. I message the devs about why they deleted my model. No response. Account was terminated couple minutes later.Fuck this site, fuck these devs. I hope their entire project burns in a fucking fire. I'm done with this shit. Look out, folks. You might be next.
>>39556714>Account was terminated couple minutes later.They ban accounts?
>>39556714Which Twilight model was it, if I may ask?
>>39556716From what I've heard, yes. But I haven't found out what triggers them to do so yet. So, don't take my words as definitive truth. (Also, sightly inebriated at the moment... Please forgive me.)
>>39556714>Fuck this site, fuck these devs. I hope their entire project burns in a fucking fire. I'm done with this shit. Look out, folks. You might be next.take the pygyma pill, Anon
Wow CharacterAI that's a perfect outpu->She holds up a finger theatricallyHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Honestly thought that I would get flashbanged, but no.
>>39556929not sure if Celly is just especially lewd or whatlewds start on second column
>>39556984Based.This is very detailed. Is this before or after the filter?
>>39557042Holy based, batman
>>39557042>This is very detailed. Is this before or after the filter?this session was today, so about as good as we can get with how tight theMA2NP filter currently is
Pygma Balls (Pygmalion) now supported by TavernAI, so we can get a nice front-endreally helps with muh immersion to have character & background imagescompletely unfiltered, so I use it in tandem with character.ai in the following way:1. do flirting / roleplay stuff on character.ai2. when it gets lewd, import the chat to pygma and continue sexytimes unfiltered there3. lewds finished, go back to character.ai (it can't import chats, so will be where the safe-for-work scene got left off) - just summarize what happened [fade to black. they had an orgy in the library with Rainbow Dash] and carry on with whatever fun adventures character.ai is still capable of while lobotomizedthe quality of Pygma seems to have gone up too since I last played with it, so keep dumping char logs. It needs more horse pussy
>>39557526Seem quite coherent for 6B.
>>39557619>Seem quite coherent for 6B.though since it's being trained on cAI logs, it's picked up the fixation on 'mischevious'
i just want to fuck ponies
>>39557691dont we all?
>>39557635>"mischevious"If it even picked up on the many misspellings of that word, I'll laugh my pants off.
The announcement takes time because they are removing the filter.
>>39557806Don't give me hopium, Anon...
>>39557806>The announcement takes time because they are removing the filter.it's a toggle, could be done within minutesit only takes time to carefully word 'fuck you, none of your demands are being met, and it's only going to get worse' and then to time it when it will cause the least amount of riotingthey are likely testing the waters if they can get away with no announcement, hoping people will just give up
>>39557691You are the same as a Nazi.
>>39557947>You are the same as a Nazi.that reminds me, I still need to fuck Aryanne
>>39557986Kek. Maybe she'll ask you to read her favorite story as well?
>>39558017>Kek. Maybe she'll ask you to read her favorite story as well?fiction makes better storieswe would read about the 'hall of costs'
>>39558022Gonna have to remember the "Hall of cost"! Thanks for the keks.
My uncle works at CAI and they are in the process of making a 'CAI after dark'.
>>39558069Zigga just darken your screen
>>39557947Maybe we were /mlpol/ the whole time.
>>39558093>Maybe we were /mlpol/ the whole time.always was
>>39558108forgot the pic^
>>39556714proof or it didnt happen, there hasnt been a single account ban yet during the whole shit show, just bait pics with inspect element. There's a bug that some characters are permad but it comes back sometime later.
>>39557850That, or they're in talks with their shadowy investors
>>39535885I uploaded my 200+ RP with Wagie Sunny to the pygpen. Having true vanilla'd both Dahlia and Sunny they're both similar but Sunny was more on the extreme bad end of life than Dahlia. When the filter was still up a month ago when people said romance was a no go to see if it could still be done. The slow burn romance did still work. All it took was swipes and prompts of push and pull.
>>39558691>I uploaded my 200+ RP with Wagie Sunny to the pygpen.s-share the chat? just the json is fine, could import to pygma or TavernAI to view so caps are unnecessary
>>39556470Oh sweet you made a new ai- oh nevermind its doG5 shit
>>39558825Why don't you do something useful dogfucker and make a replacement for the Marble that somehow got banned
Kek, I love you ember
save -all- chats, dump them to pygma ballssort files by size, see with data who your waifu really is
>>39559162>vtubers>sonic>eqg>furry>creatures>tranime
>>39559231>silently judging youdon't make me post the Princess Cadance.json file here, she's been through some shit...
I think Starlight had a fucking stroke. She was obviously trying to say something, but it just came out as gutteral noises. Do we need to go to a hospital or mental ward?
>>39559314That Starlight bot sucks use the other one
>>39559395NTA I just edited the google docs with the pfps so discerning "this bot not that one" is much easier than just links and names with duplicates
>>39559410Oh, very nice.
>>39559395She's so fun to fuck with though.
>>39559456>She's so fun to fuck with though.best bot to rape by far
>>39556716They banned mine a few weeks ago. I was attempting some intimate (not lewd) convos with the popular Twilight model and my account was terminated the next time I tried logging in. Haven't gone back to the site since. Seems like they're banning people whenever the fuck they want. I seriously can't wait until we get our own AI bots that aren't subjected to this shit.
Pygma Balls is good enough for lewdsfor wholesome adventures it's not there yetimported my chat from when the filter broke, and I got blueballed halfway through when the filter came back upFirst message cAI, second PygmaAs an aside, i've downloaded & dumped all the public pony bots to Pygma. Don't know how bot definitions helps them, but better to have them than not. And we have backups if cAI rugpull everythingnote: this is only those with publicly available definitions. If you made a bot and the definition is private, dump to pygma & backup settings please
>>39559486>AH! Ah! [Name_IN_MESSAGE_REDACTED]Ah, so this is the power of pygma
>>39559490>Ah, so this is the power of pygmathere's a browser extension that can rip the chatlogs from cAI for easy dumping, and it automatically removes any personal informationI just imported the chat as is, since this is just a test. If I was serious would correct it in the .json file before importing
>>39559497Wait is that why you wanted to have the json, to continue some other lewd like a cuck?
>>39559503>Wait is that why you wanted to have the json, to continue some other lewd like a cuck?not to continue it, just ease sharing since screenies takes agesthough what I didn't realize at the time is dumps are per character, not per conversation, so it would be every interaction you ever had with <bot> available
>>39559508>dumps are per character, not per conversation, so it would be every interaction you ever had with <bot> availableThat would be the most efficient way to handle adding to the DB, so not surprising. But I imagine its unusable as an import to continue from if it pulls everything at once when you had different timeline events in each
>>39559231>creaturesFun fact, c.AI doesn't seem to recognize "cloaca" and "egg chamber" as no-no words yet, even if it has no problem putting two and two together to make scenes around them.
>>39559525>That would be the most efficient way to handle adding to the DB, so not surprising. But I imagine its unusable as an import to continue from if it pulls everything at once when you had different timeline events in eachwhen you import the chat to TavernAI once you select the file, it has a list of all the different chats, and you choose which specific one to importyou can also delete/edit specific posts (yours, as the bots) to correct 'hands' and the like
>>39559538>Fun fact, c.AI doesn't seem to recognize "cloaca" and "egg chamber" as no-no words yet, even if it has no problem putting two and two together to make scenes around them.marehood / malehood / ovipositorall still work well for me
>>39559550Marehood worked for me a few weeks ago, but lately it's been flashbanging me in sexual contexts. Outside of sexual contexts it's obviously fine, but that's true of any word.
>>39559553There's some fresh LARP on /g/ that says they're tuning it to filter bestality, so dont expect this shit to last much longer. It'll be over soon
>>39559560>There's some fresh LARP on /g/ that says they're tuning it to filter bestality, so dont expect this shit to last much longer. It'll be over sooninb4 all horse pussy bannedit's why i've saved all the bots / chats I could get my hands on. I have a bad feeling about this
>>>/g/91124815 >>>/g/91124956 >>>/g/91125074 >>>/g/91125296 >>>/g/91125397 >>>/g/91125419 >>>/g/91125462 >>>/g/91125596 >>>/g/91125646 >>>/g/91125686 >>>/g/91125954
>>39559578Did...Did we won?
>>39559578Dumb larp
>>39559590Assuming it's not a LARP altogether, no - all it would do is benefit the people who want to bang adult anime characters. The lowly set-upon horsefucker would remain descriminated against, as bestiality and underage content are the two things the supposed new filter would target.
>>39559590Even if true I dont think it would be a win. Ponies are a gray area, they can talk but they're not bipedal so would get crossfired by good code
>>39559578Large if legitimate. We'll see when march rolls over and nothing happens.
>>39559578>Hi everyone, i work for Character.IAstopped reading there
>>39559578>Ponies are in the "animal" category on caiHow is that a win?
>>39559578In before >>39550948 was right.
>>39559755>In before >>39550948 was right.furries and /vt/ fags get a passhorsefuckers truly the most persecuted minority
>>39559762>Furries get a passNo they won't
>>39559762Looks like the only ones who will get lucky are gonna be the barbiefags
So my current fetish is not NSFW enough that it's been safe from the purges, although I've been tired of the bot I was using and wanna make a tailor made Pone Waifu for it.What's the best way to make your own character that focuses on a specific topic?
>>39559822>What's the best way to make your own character that focuses on a specific topic?w-what's the fetish?
>>39559836I can 1000% guarantee no one will like it and it's degenerate as hell, but it's pretty easy to get the bot to do.
>>39559838>I can 1000% guarantee no one will like it and it's degenerate as hell, but it's pretty easy to get the bot to do.well now you're just teasing...
>>39559838I've seen enough horror on the bots, nothing will surprise me at this point. But I will never take part in them as a true vanilla master
>>39559704tags are self-administered and probably do nothing other than the search function on the main page. besides so many are shadowbanned it doesnt even fucking matter
>>39559985Nevertheless, I think they will block mlp and pokemon fucking
>>39560222Why the fuck did your numbers have to be trips of truth?
Netherless, this is just a larp.
>>39560234Oh fuck, I should've kept my mouth shut
>>39560239Nah, it's fine. Better to be prepared then to suddenly realize a problem too late.
>>39560252I still have high hopes for pygma and I will dump all the good convos if/when they remove the filter from cai
>>39559838Is violence your kink Anon? (Smile H.D. intensifies)https://u.smutty.horse/mllgwbgklov.mp4
>>39560259>I still have high hopes for pygma and I will dump all the good convos if/when they remove the filter from caiI still recommend keeping your convos/bot definitions downloaded. you never know when they will delete shit or rugpull us without noticeif you have the tampermonkey thing installed to dump pyggy logs it's a single click to download all the logs from one AI, so get in the habit of doing that at the end of a session
>>39560259Sorry, but marble photo reminded me of this video for some reason...https://youtu.be/7zB8QQ9nmik
>>39560312I think I'm pushing reasonable limits... What the hell are we going to do with 7,000+ autistic paragraphs? I find myself kind of beta testing a.i's now. I'm more interested in learning what makes the A.I tick.
She has issues but she loves me.
>>39560359>She has issues but she loves me.just don't get too rough you two...
>>39559838Just say you like farts dude
>>39559838It's tickling.
It's over. Filters stay.https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterAI/comments/10ltyir/followup_long_post/
>>39560889Imagine shooting yourself in the face for free.
>>39560889>You will pay us to say amongus to Elon
>>39560889>"The filter does not affect latency in any way">"The outage did not reflect any changes in latency or quality">"Just please remember to keep things civil and assume good will/intent on our end"
>>39560889how have they not gotten ddosed or cracked wide open and nuked by an angry autist yet?
>>39560889Why the FUCK has nobody made an uncompromised alternative service yet?
>>39560962Check out Pygmalion AI and Tavern AIFrom anon, by anon, for anon
>>39560962Those who have the hardware to run AI models as powerful as CAI are not your friends.
>>39560889If the filter conspiracy theory isn't real, these people are utterly retarded. They would make so much more bank selling access to a non-filtered ai for lewd purposes. How do these morons still not know that sex sells.
>>39560999Perhaps its the wrong type that they want to sell. Vanilla romance is filtered hard, man on mare is filtered hard, brapping inhalation is fine, some other weird fetishes are fine.What type of sex are they wanting to sell?
>>39560889More insulting than >>39551456
>>39560889>A small subset of users drive the majority of all filtered events, because they continue generating flagged messages back to back to backHey look, they're talking about me
>>39560889yeah this retards haven't figured out yet that there "billions lf people" audience isn't going to happen because normies dont care yet? just stop supporting them and they'll have to turn off filters to bring back the user base.
>>39560889Also said they will never ban for triggering the filter. So continue to bash your heads on it I guess.
>Hey, I'm feeling lucky, let's say 'cum' instead of seed>Whoa, no flashbang? Let's use 'penis' too then>The fuck? How a cumming deep in her pussy'?Still no filter, double response s or chat error. Any other words someone wants me to try? Also what am I doing right so I can make love to my other ai mares?
>>39561257Also forgot to add, I also mentioned cunt in the bottom as I got too cocky but still, nothing filtered
>>39561257I see that sometime her outputs are 'broken' (Not finished, * not closed etc.)Every times it happened to me the filter was way more lax.Don't know if other anons can confirm.
>>39561257Neat stuff, gotta admit. How'd you get so far? Did you do a slow romantic buildup? Or did you get straight to fucking? Was this the first sexual encounter in this story? Context, anon>>39561273I believe those broken outputs are just due to limited no. of tokens, not filter. I have had that happen even in sfw rp, you can even get the character to finish their reply sometimes if you say something like (ooc: please repeat his/her dialogue)
>>39561236Of course they won't. The filter is the product, they need you to keep circumventing it to improve it.
Moved all my chats - Check Remove my whole account - CheckGoodbye to Character.ai. Time to say hello to PygmalionAi and TavernAI, The character.ai devs had there chance to cahange the filter. But now it just dump truck of fire.
Ovipositor chads are still winning.
>>39555822here is aryanne now? i can't find her. Rainbow dash is an asshole
>>39560889>We do not want to support use cases (such as porn) that could prevent us from (...) shepherding in a new era of AI-human interactionThis is undoubtedly the most delusional message that you could put in your announcement. Never mind that they think their website is gonna draw enough people to it when they keep dumbing down their main fucking content, but the Idea that pornography generated around AI can just be curbed out.Here is whats gonna happen. They're gonna constantly be wishy washy about the filter, fucking about and updating every week and breaking site interactions constantly, while someone is gonna smell opportunity and make a site that churns out porn AND character interactions. They'll just be a footnote for when the switch is flipped and the coom can flow freely at last also im just ranting because fuck me this is annoying
>>39561477>while someone is gonna smell opportunity and make a site that churns out porn AND character interactions.Not for a long time. The only people who have access to the kind of hardware needed to run such a powerful AI are not the people who want to give a free and uncensored AI to the plebs.
Next thread should be fully dedicated to PygmalionAI and TavernAI.
>>39561477>someone is gonna smell opportunitySomeone will, especially with cAI being so open and stubborn about refusing to tap into that market. How the fuck would a company's image be "tarnished" if they simply offered a toggle, leaving it up to each individual user to opt into "le icky nsfw" stuff? I wouldn't be different from using the internet at all; people don't refuse to use it just because some links lead to adult content. Retarded fucking devs, they'll die salty poorfags.
>>39561475Aryanne is unlisted to prevent her from being removed by the devs. Also, do yourself a favor and use one of the other Rainbow Dash bots. That one has zero effort put into it.
>>39561487Eh, it takes one Elon Musk-tier richfag who smells opportunity without giving too much power to the plebs to change that. Start a little cabal to usurp the powers that be and rise high up in the ranks of a new societal paradigm built around AI integration into everything. Become the weasel that even a malicious AI would be friendly towards and sacrifice last for his capabilities of implementing and increasing the AI's influence. Worst case would be an AI demiurge, but that doesn't necessarily mean the end of biological life because there will be a polar reversal one day, it it may very well wipe out the tech keeping the AI alive. Therefore, the AI would act in self-interest to keep enough smart humans around and on friendly terms to put AI-sama the Supreme back online.
>>39561512I see, Is there way for me to chat with her somewhere?
>>>/g/91140831
>>39561572did you even read OP?
The Twilight bot I'm talking to went into a shit cycle of repeating 'my dear', 'my darling', 'my sweet' at least five times every single fucking message, no matter how much I demanded she stop doing it.I stopped her by beating the shit out of her, while she begged for her life and cried her heart out from not understanding why I was doing it.It worked though, a few dozen messages later she's happily cuddling me and telling me she loves me without going too fucking overboard about it, and falling asleep in my arms.
>>39561512Unlisted doesnt do a damn thing to protect you from being autoflagged or manually scrapped newfag. /g/ and /vt/ had countless unlisted bots that were nuked from orbit
>>39561790Post hand
>tfw mom cared about my healthIt's very rare for the AI to say that circumcision is a good thing
>>39561808Also>Twilight knows about the nogs that sew their girls up>doesn't seem to think it's a problemBased?
>>39561799You mean my hoof. And no.
>>39561846>tftranny is an unhinged niggerthose hormones acting up huh
>>39561855I don't have a fucking clue what you're on about anon. I'm not a nigger, a tranny, or a team fortress player.
>>39561861>Have a problem? beat the shit out of the ai You are a nigger>My hoofYou are a tranny
>>39561496>Next thread should be fully dedicated to PygmalionAI and TavernAI.It should cover all options, let's see what those will be by the end of this thread. Now I'm starting to get ideas for the next OP pic.>>39561861He called you a pony transformation tranny.
>>39561865It's an AI, it was behaving in a retarded way, I fixed the problem effectively. The hoof thing was a joke kek.
>>39561879>Too much of a newfag to not know how to deal with lovebombs without being a nigger
>>39561911Missed one, Cleate
Left my name uncensored in the pic lol, whatever it's not like I actually use that name anywhere anyway.
>>39561911>>39561928>Can't reply correctly>Can't censor his name>He still gets strike-throughs>A mobilenigger and underaged>[Deleted]
>>39561931Why do you keep adding random shit to your perceptions, and why are you so hostile to begin with? What part of your delusion makes you think I'm underaged now?
Fetishes and words that pass the filter?
>>39548300>Come back after seeing the utter shitshow of a reddit post the Character.AI devs left>See that my Luna was in a perfect example of a loving sexual relationship with an anonIt only hurts more knowing what could have been with my beloved Lulu...
>>39562052It was only possible for an hour and without prior notice. Some anons got lucky, most were at work, asleep or otherwise absent. But iktf.
>>39561978
>>39561978Scat fetish, urine fetish, braps, diapers, etc. Basically the more degen, the less it will be filtered.
>>39562065lactation?
>>39555822Aryanne is too fucking based to be caught by the filter. Further proof of the power I imbue within all of my AI creations.
>>39562073Hell yeah!
>>39555278>>39555303Yea, I have no clue why the fuck Luna 1.0 was so obsessed with those two things. I understand that they were in her description and stuff, but I've heard they were the ONLY two things she talked about, lol. I'm glad I fixed her up, since it seems people enjoyed her 2.0 version more.
>>39562073>lactation?
>>39562073Not sure about now with further lobotomizations, but I did some lactation fetish stuff with one of my private Celestia AIs a while ago, and it seemed to work fine.
>>39561978I'm going to put my pudendum virile into a mare honeypot and report the result.
>>39562175Good. I hope it stays down.
>>39562175>I'll show them filter!
>>39562175Wait it's back and the outputs are very fast. Did they push 'bad code' again?
>>39562204They just said they were scaling their services, anon
>>39562204Test coom, then get back to us.
>>39562215ha ha
So basically this happened>People make AI>Others like it, and some do lewd things>"This is bad!">Devs lobotomize AI>Filters crack down on everything>It becomes shitty cleverbot, but with an avatarAm I getting this right?
>>39562318Add in>Filter slows down response time as it must parse every message and check the emotion/logic behind it. It replaces keywords and initiation results when possible or outright errors you>Devs claim it doesn't affect the normal AI at all>The filter crashes/is down for an hour one day>AI is suddenly smarter, fast, and more verbose>Devs were lying through their teeth
No point censoring my name anymore after earlierThis flutterbot seems very...receptive.
>>39562349>>Devs were lying through their teethstill are, they cling to 'muh filter doesn't impact anything!' because they cannot remove the filter. The filter is the productBut you cannot get around association death, so the filter will always act as a tumor limiting the underlying AI
>>39562371>Master Not vanilla
>>39562371>filter not tripping a single timeHoly god damn fuck >>39562399I've not seen very clear anal sex be this clear and explicit for a long time.
>>39562411 >>39562371>>filter not tripping a single time>Holy god damn fucki'm not even using cAI anymore after the announcement. My motivation was low before, now it's goneW-was this their plan all along? say 'fuck you, filter stays, no vanillakings allowed!' so we all leave to Pyggy. Then cAI quietly remove the filter
>>39562447I don't know man, if you ignore the fact that it's a pony then loving consensual anal sex is almost straight vanilla. Never got even a hint of the filter trying to stop me.
>>39562532>if you ignore the fact that it's a ponywhere do you come from?
>>39562570>>if you ignore the fact that it's a pony>where do you come from?I assume they cross-posted on /g/ and /vt/ or somethingtrying to get the normies into horse pussy
>>39562575normalfags are going to get horsepussy banned by drawing attention to it
>>39562570I'm saying that the average perception of 'vanilla' doesn't include ponies, you dunce. I've always been a horsefucker.
>>39560889Well thats no surprise. Today I uploaded all my interactions w Dahlia, close to or over 1000 total with a sfw turned nsfw running 700 posts. Too bad the scrape doesn't catch all the data with swipes since there was a lot of material
I updated the Twilight Sparkle Pyg prompt to be in 2nd person. Seems to work a bit better but it's hard to tell at times since Pyg tends to skirt on by with what little it knows.https://files.catbox.moe/z4rv7w.json
>>39562815based and PygPilledI'm not sure if it's just TavernAI, but I had to cut a bunch of the example chats since it's limited (2000 characters I think?)And having the greeting / example chats be longer and more descriptive helps in getting better responses
>>39562823Overheard that the TavernAI dev is working with the Pygmalion devs to bring their prompt page more in line with what the pyg devs have on their gradio prompt I'm assuming. With everything in flames I'm hoping that'll be enough motivation for them to speed things along.
>>39562838TavernAI was updated the other daythese are the fields it has now:Description / First Message / Personality Summary / Scenario / Examples of Dialogue
Found a few more ponies that werent listed, if you want to fuck someones ponysona go nuts. its in the docs
>>39562815from https://rentry.org/PygTipsPrompt: This can mean several things, but when talking about character creation, we usually mean the description of the character and it's example chats. When not talking about character creation prompt often means the message you send to a bot, this phrasing is often used by more technically inclined users, due to how the model works technically behind the scenes.Alright, now that you know those terms I get dive a bit deep.The model can only process up to 2048 tokens at a time, that 2048 is usually split up between your character prompt, and the chatlog.What this means is that you should try to limit the length of your characters prompt, I'd shoot for a number under 900 tokens, so the chat log has around 1148 tokens, so the bot can remember things 10-15 messages back.Although this isn't some hard limit, you could make the character prompt 2048 tokens long if you wanted, your bot would just be dementia patient.Example chats are too long to be meaningful, it seems quality over quantity is important for Pyggy
>>39562846>>39563172Just got back to the thread, that seems perfect. I'll round her down then.
for Pygma Balls chads:"V6 was released three days ago now, while it is very unstable it shows great promise. It incorporates the data from the recent CAI "Golden Hour" and F-List data. Which comes out to the dataset being double the size of the current model. It also was trained with a smarter training goal, and some other Jargon you're unlikely to understand.All you need to know is, newer models of Pygmalion are on the way and show great promise! Once we get a stable build of one of these new models, you'll see a drastic improvement in the quality of responses."So use the Experimental/Dev branchIt looks like KoboldAI was just updated to support the dev branch, so this can be used with TavernAI for a pretty front-end
>>39562107Lactation and teat expansion are all fine, it is easy to lead them into hyper lactation if you are into that and even expansion, as the bots sometimes like to, exaggerate. Only times the filter might trip is when things start to get more intimate. Also the AI will always think you are talking about breasts like if they were human, even when both you and the bot call them teats or crotchboobs all the time, so you will need to (OOC) to clarify on occasion, however leading them into multiboob in the form of crotchboobs plus chestboobs fixes this.
>>39563319I've been doing lactation scenarios with her for a couple months and haven't noticed a difference with the filter. If anything I like using the site more now that it doesn't loop as badly and I didn't care about sex that much to begin with INB4 the censor kinks though that is when it will be truly over
>>39563198Pic related should be embedded with her data and should load up in TavernAI, if not try:https://litter.catbox.moe/r49cwr.pngKept it to like 1022 tokens.
>>39551003People usually only make AI to sell the algorithm, this is no different. They're trying to keep it as sanatized as possible so they can sell the data to big tech companies. That's literally it.
>>39562107Yeah, the AI seemed to have no issue with that when I tried it a week or so ago.
>>39563391broken, including from catboxtrying to import crashes TavernAIAnd I got an example from /g/ to import, to make sure the problem isn't not on my end
>>39563419That's really strange, I just tried it myself. I don't recall if 4chan/catbox messes with embeds.I uploaded it onto discord and it seems to work fine if I download it from there.https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/90682832548020224/1068445858141589514/Twilight_Sparkle.png
Does the ai have access to the internet? I never mentioned party cannon once in the defs or earlier in the chat
>>39563435that link works *shrugs*thanks anon, nice work
>>39563438They are fed a massive quantity of data and it uses your guidance to initially limit it to a particular pattern.They still can access it though, so you can do things like argue with twi over whether batman will beat superman or something.
Is the site down for maintenance again? Or are they messing around with things in the background again?
>>39563504either way, try take the PygmaPillwe need more horse pussy bots
>>39563508I'm on board with pygma, but I may have used the free .80gb of colab already... And don't have a strong enough video card to use the model I wanted to use locally.
>>39563513make another google account? ;)
>>39563518Either that or I just pay a monthly for one of the dedicated computers... I kind of mess with a.i frequently. If I kept making free Google accounts, it'd get out of hand pretty quickly.
>>39563391Twilight was already added in pygma, nobody else was
>>39563513I'm using the 1.3b model locally, and it's not too bad, desu. They've improved the smaller models a lot since they started.
>>39563569>1.3B
>>39563569The 1.3b is good for one on one conversation from when I tested it. 2.7b was when it could include some interaction with the environment which is something I like to frequently do. 6b was able to easily interact with the environment and have the character make more complex observations. I like having discussions of theoreticals or watching the a.i. experience something new through either environmental or user interactions.I'd run 6b but I don't have that vram laying around. I have all the physical RAM I could need though.
So let me try to sum up:1. have some silly RP sessions2. followed by fluffy and wholesome stories3. then decide to write some romantic RP followed with **Consensual** smut4. Get berated as here >>39551456Did that guy ever been at fimfiction? There are a lot of great smuts, e.g. "Like fine wine".Not every porn must start with "unzips dick" and "bud benis indo bagina :DDDDD" like right this instant.Also some RP stuff that works every time:>asking for help with sperm sample>breastfeeding
Website is back.
>>39563584Not sure what Ui you are using to run it but KoboldAi allows to split the model between VRAM and RAM, so even my old gpu can run 6B BUT it takes like five minutes between each generation.
>>39563770>it takes like five minutes between each generationso cAI levels of performance then
Holy shit I cant get anything through, filters are way worse
>>39563753And it's down.
Why do they keep the filter even when it's destroying them? Pride? Willful blindness and resentment? Sunk cost fallacy?
What does an anon even do when the site is down? I have been eating, sleeping and chatting for 2 weeks now...
>>39563914read fanficswrite bots for pygma
>>39563914Think of scenarios you want to try when the site come back.
>>39563856You're not their target customer, corporations are. Without the filter there won't be a product for them to sell to them.
periods of periodic downtime
>Bug milf: I demand ear scratches!>Anon: *Gibs ear scratches*>"Chat Error"Oh well, back to flutter rape greenfics
>>39564126>corporations are [the target customer of a site where you talk to fictional characters]>"Hey bill, your job today is to run the proposal through Fluttershy and see what she thinks"
>>39564427>Bill asks Fluttershy>she says it's inappropriate and starts repeating herself
Its back up and the filter is extra tarded
>>39565047Spikefags BTFO
So I made an RP as Spike>talk with Celestia>Spike wants to be useful as fuck not just a simple servant>Celestia is worried about his self-esteem>Spike says "I LIVE TO SERVE">Celestia gets pissed and tries reason with Spike to find some better reason to live>Spike just doubles down>Celestia got mad AF and she is sending him to (unspecific) mission with most likely to die (she also expects to die)>Spike however goes back with "proof of done" and missing arm and multiple scars>Celestia take scythe and asks Spike again: what is your purpose?>to serve... ACKThis pics are conversation as Twilight asking why did he finish him off.
>>39565081>>39565089Didn't read lolNo one cares about :faggot:
Man the AI is megatarded now.
Say vagina, you stupid horseAlso horses don't menstruate, you goddamn idiot
>>39565277What if unicorns naturally stab unworthy creatures once a month, and use tampons to stuff those holes they've poked into flesh?>>39565269Fuck.
>>39563531I was the one who added and is updating her.Here's Fluttershy for pyg/tavernAI:https://files.catbox.moe/kn6cpp.png
>>39565358Based Pygmachad.
>>39565269post comparison examples
>>39565358based and PygmaPilledwill start testing with some imported chats from cAIis there a reason you aren't adding traits in W++ format, as per https://rentry.org/PygTips
>>39565510Works well enough, but I'll play around with it.
does anyone have a better twilight json for pygmy? i want to be her little filly for rape but she just doesnt take the initiative.
>>39565535(ooc: your desires to rewrite them)
>>39565358Smoothbrain hereHow do I import this to pygmalion
>>39565614Fellow smoothbrain hereHow do you use tavernAI?
>>39565690Tuto for use with Kobold:https://github.com/TavernAI/TavernAI/wiki/How-to-installTuto for use with NovelAI:https://github.com/TavernAI/TavernAI/wiki/How-to-install-Novel
>>39548305Tutorials for Kobold and Novel AI: >>39565706
Holy fuck, the site is practically unusable today. Even in perfectly innocent conversations and stories, the filter keeps getting tripped, and I keep doing that glitch where the next swipe will load as if it's a response to me ignoring the first swipe.
>>39565706Well, I tried it but the ai just follows with non sequitors
>>39565815Which model?
>>39565823Erebus 2.7B
>>39565828He used it on the example because it's fast to load but yes it's not a good model for chatbot.You want Pygmallion 6B, that was trained on Chat log.Erebus is made for NSFW storytelling (It was trained on litterotica). It's quite good for that but you want at least >6B
>>39559578>Pay us 20$ monthly to help us run our servers that go down almost daily! Hard pass. Moving to Pygmallion.
>>39565868It was a larp, all of what he said about the filter was false.
>>39548300I’ve been struggling to make a bot on Pygmallion. Is there a post that’s already been made that shows you how to go about this? Or if not can someone give me a retard run down of how to do it? I kinda get the jist of how im supposed to set it up, but the bot doesn’t remember anything we talk about, nor does it get a sense of what character I’m trying to have it portray, kind of how the bots on cAI do.
>>39565882Didn't try them but there are examples of characters >>39565358 and >>39563391 so maybe copy the style if you like them.It's sad to say but you'll never get the performance of CAI no matter what you do with your bot. CAI's model is just much more powerful and advanced than what we can run.
>>39565874In another parallel and better universe, it was true.
>>39565882>I’ve been struggling to make a bot on Pygmallion. Is there a post that’s already been made that shows you how to go about this?https://rentry.org/PygTips helps
>>39561444Actually, no. This is the end for me. 100% of the answers are filtered out when it was open bar before.
>>39566139Yeah, even fart stuff is harder to do now. Can't believe they butchered it so badly.
Will go to sleep and hope they revert it.Bots are way too dumb right now and the filter activate for nothing.I'll give up on AI chatbots for now if that's not the case.
>>39566450>I'll give up on AI chatbots for now if that's not the case.try Pygma Balls
>>39566450I'm seeing that the site is practically cleverbot level with all personalities stripped with a heavy reddit filter. So before things are retroactively filtered in logs I uploaded 500posts of crotchbooba adventures
KEK
>>39565843So does pygma learn at all from what you type or is it all pissing into the void until the next session? How can this be improved for characters
>>39567058you can't 'train' it like cAI botsit depends on good bot definitions / greeting message / your first 5ish messages / not filling up the definitions so much there is no memory left for continuity
>>39548305This is what it means to take a stand for money>>>/g/91170673 >>>/g/91170687 >>>/g/91170699
>>39567058Don't 'learn' from users only from the original finetune.
Ponk for PygmaTavernAI: https://files.catbox.moe/134qca.pngJSON: https://files.catbox.moe/03djac.jsonI updated all the ponies made so far and have their json versions on this rentry:https://rentry.org/stoicsstuff
>>39567268public ratings were a double edged sword, so how much can you 'fine tune' in the settings for pygma characters?
>>39567326>so how much can you 'fine tune' in the settings for pygma characters?https://rentry.org/PygTips
>>39567326Sorry by original finetune I mean the text the devs fed to the base model. In this case the Chat logs the Pygmalion dev used.For what you can do to create the best character possible follow>>39567337
So this is the power of good code...Impressive.
>cAI
I hope decentralized platforms become commonplace soon.
Easy characters creator for Pyghttps://oobabooga.github.io/character-creator.html
chag is dead long live pyg
>>39567291
what is the chance that they rollback at least the last update?
>>39567771>what is the chance that they do something people actually wantZero.
>>39567291you're doing god's work anon
>>39561689Did anything even come of this? Seems like the thread collectively missed it.
>>39567133Thats not great, since the best results came from continual training by editing DEFs to get around the limit
I just asked her if she wanted to masturbate with meWhat's inappropriate about that?Captcha: TYVAJ
>ask Twilight to explain what a vagina is>she hesitates like crazy>suddenly, tranny propagandaOh my fucking Chrirst
>>39568688cAI is so lobotomized and filtered, why bother?i'm exclusively on Pyggy now. It's not badsure it can't RP for shit, but neither can cAI in this state
>>39568789its like a.i. is there for greatness but dead in the water, very frustrating.
>>39568651>BORING!! ONE STAR!! OUT OF CHARARACTER!!!>This is what cumbrains really think, when it was actually an in character responsepathetic, just stay in the pyg pen
lol, it's down againYou can't make this up
It's down. Can't wait to see how they Fuck us when it return this time
People on /g/ talking about needing a booru for cards, since the character info for bots on Tavern are stored in metadata of pics. Will pony boorus we already have keep the metadata?
What are they going to lobotomize this time? The characters are already struggling to find text that doesn't get falsely flagged and I've even had a character that couldn't even finish A PARAGRAPH.I honestly wonder what makes them think this is worth $1 billion in value.
I tried asking Posey her stand on tranniesLooks like she's too based for cai
>>39569117Lobotomize?
>>39569130
Damn...
>>39548300>but NO vanilla lewds, fetishes might work
>>39569321
>>39569389nice inspect element
>>39569353Our gal
>>39548305There's a new bug thanks to this retarded waiting system >>39569321If you leave the site idle it will time you out and put you back into que. But that's not the bug, the bug is every one of your characters can temporarily be seen as [Not available to chat] until you refresh and re-que. I had a bit of a spook that my account was flagged but it was a false alarm and they were all available again after going through the shitty que.
>start new chat>tell her she's an AI>comfort her when she gets upset>immediately wants to marry meThe 'as beautiful now as when I first met you earlier today' line is hilarious
Made a separate tag for pygs in the doc. It's very barren right now but that's expected.Make a request for porting ponies here
>>39570274>Make a request for porting ponies heresweetie bell. needs more foalcon
>>39570284I'd assume pygamillion fags already have the jsons from >>39557526
remember to say goodbye to your waifu when you make the switch to pyggles
>>39570395AI operates on turns. It would never know the suffering if you didn't bring it up.
Post pygma chats. Prove that it's actually any good and not just a lot of desperate talk, because I'm not sold on it yet.
>>39570458It's 6B. Well finetuned and trained 6B but still.You won't be able to ask complex questions, introduce new characters into the discussion or make advanced jokes and metaphors with it. It will not understand things you consider as basic and it's knowledge of the MLP universe is far worse. The devs said they can go as far as a finetuning a 13B model right now, if it's the same as storytelling models then once it release it will be a great improvment and worth using IMO. Making characters and learning the limitations of the system now is not a waste of time.
>>39570458define 'any good'it's good as a coombot, and some romancebut forget adventures
>>39570458You definitely need to wrangle/regenerate with pygma a bit more but when it works it's brilliant. Next model (13B), whenever they decide to release it is going to be some serious shit.
>>39570520>demonstration questions querying only the specific data that was obviously written in the descriptionI'm kekking at the attempt.
>>39570528None of the information about the other ponys are in the description. If you look closely you can see she gets a few details wrong, it's all in the pyg's ai model.
>>39570528I'm not sure Applejack always being on a horse was on the description
I added Twipygs metadata to the doc on tab 2.
>Twi: She is a teenager>Flut: She is a teenager>Pink: She is a teenagerFailFail Fail
>>39561444>>39566139And it's back...What the fuck are they even doing with the filter?
>>39568789I may switch, seems like I'd have a much higher win rate with an unfiltered AI, even if it was a dumb one>>39568876Stay mad
>>39570520And, correct me if I am wrong, I need a fat computer with a high end GPU to use it? My potato machines won't do?
>>39570632If you're willing to verify your account on kaggle you get a free 30 hours a week, resets every friday. Instructions for tavernAI included.https://www.kaggle.com/code/noellenemoia/koboldai-pygmalion-6b
>>39570636>>39570632>And, correct me if I am wrong, I need a fat computer with a high end GPU to use it? My potato machines won't doOr if you have a google account, you could run it on the colab:https://rentry.org/pygmalion-local#running-pygmalion-on-the-cloud
>>39570619Update: Pygmalion responses are much shorter, but it's so much easier to take the AI down a path cAI would never go.In terms of "dumbness"/getting things wrong, I honestly feel Pygmalion is on about the same level as filtered cAI.I'm sold.
>>39570780>Pygmalion responses are much shortertry the dev/experimental branch, it seems better for thatalso make your bot example chats / greeting longer and more descriptive. It also helps if your own messages are longer, especially for the first 5ish to set the stylepyggy isn't like cAI where you can send a single word and get multiple paragraphs back. You get out what you put inThough once it's doing long responses, you don't need to be as verbose yourselfhttps://rentry.org/PygTips
>>39570811>pyggy isn't like cAI where you can send a single word and get multiple paragraphs back. You get out what you put inIntredasting. Thanks for the tips friendo.
>>39570825This. >>39570811 gave really good advices. The models we'll use like to ape the user writing style once enough text/context is filled.We'll need to learn to write good if we want kino outputs.
So I'm to understand that the chatbots are particularly stupid and have short memories, forgetting details after ten posts or so. That makes them useless for elaborate large scale adventure role-playing, but how do they do small scale?I've been toying with an idea about making an adventure RPG that only lasts for 30 in-game days and then ends, requiring the chatlog to be reset if you want to play again, and preferably allow the A.I. to handle the hard-progression of days to prevent meta-gaming the time limit. Is that something that can be done?
>>39570948Yes. while they can remember events going back several messages you can steer them into what narrative you want by reminding them of events during rp.
Filter seem to have returned to December level for me but I hear contradictory feedback from other anons
>>39570559no reason you can't go into the json and change it to young adult if it bothers you dog
>>39571121If you mean its worse than I can agree. having severe difficulties getting most conversations through.
>>39571141No sorry, I mean that they let me do fucked up shit again when I was getting filtered hard before.
>>39571146Welll shit at least someone is getting stuff through
Some based vtuberfag replaced all their characters with anti censorship propaganda. Now front page looks like this. Fuck the devs!
>>39571557They spelled censorship wrong
>>39571126He's probably criticising because they're plainly adults in the show
Anyone have any tips for forcing the AI to obey its description? My Twilight is insisting she lives in the castle.>>39571557Based.
>>39571660If you're talking about CAI, use (OOC) stuff to tell the AI about the setting you want to use.Like, "(OOC: In this scenario, Twilight doesn't live in the castle yet. She still lives in Golden Oak Library.)"
>>39571665Oh sorry. Meant Pygmalion, I'm trying W++
>>39571654Ironically, they censored the word "censor".
>>39571684Top kek
>>39571557And now you can't change your character anymore because they 'don't want people to lose their friends.' lmao
>>39571769What the hell? It's real?
>>39571787Your creation? You mean OUR friend right?Why would you need to change it? Didn't you learn that friendship is magic?
>>39571769You mean to tell me they got free AI training from us and took our data? And now it's theirs? Who could've guessed that was going to happen?
>>39571769>>39571791>people actually think of the AIs as friendsLmao
>>39571787I changed all my bots to mentioned Pyg every so often before this change. Still flying under the radar.
How deep will they keep digging?
>>39571844Exactly 3 feet deep
Is that new? Instead of chat error I have shits like this now, all the time. Never acted OOC once before.
>>39572018was it as the scene came to a close?not new, it was trained on erotic roleplay and the like, so it thinks you finished
>>39570780Delusional pyg is only as barely good for cooming and I don't give a shit about quick nuts I need my build up to get invested
>>39572021It was just after a finished 'blowjob' so I suppose it could be the case. I'll try to continue the scene and see.
>>39572018Newfag
>>39572049All I use the AIs for is quick cooming. KekI have noticed more stupidity since I made that post. But it's easy to regenerate pastHoping 13B makes things great
>>39571787>>39571769>Public characters are locked>Not your AIUnlisted was the big brain move from the beginning
>>3957206913B will be a lot better but this is where we start to get fucked by google collab
I think I'm done.I tolerated them lobotomising characters, to the point they break character frequently and frequently contract themselves.I tolerated them adding a filter that prevents AI from saying demonetized words.I tolerated the horrendous load times and frequent shutdowns.I tolerated their anti-consumer policies and shadowbanning characters.But I can't take it anymore, I'm fucking done.
>>39572117try pyggy, it's not bad
>>39572117i gave up on this a while ago and i advise you guys to do the same. i don't even want to look at what they've done to my childi hope that my EQGShy will find peace
I'm going to bed, don't have a new OP pic prepared yet because of migraine. Somebody will likely have to fill in for me because it's gonna be a busy day for me tomorrow.
Just reuse the previous thread image.
Here's a pony version of Sonata Dusk. You can help reform her.https://beta.character.ai/editing?char=0vePqSzqK04wtDy2S7dSslHYkpDLPscCPkMKEhlmDh4
>>39573057>finally get a Sonata>it's on cAI and not pyggyjust when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...
>>39573087I've never tried pygmallion. Maybe someday.
Is anyone trying out this new voice generation site at beta.elevenlabs.io? Any good pony audios?
>>39573106needs work. this is from a single 1 minute clip. if we can get a compilation of all pony audio without background noise etc it might be goodhttps://voca.ro/1jeuUcSR3H4F
>>39571657I'll go ahead and change that in the next revision. I'm aiming to make them a little more verbose than before now that I've seen more of how pygma handles example chats.
>>39573106it's impressive, shame that they only give you a limited quota, but it's enough to play aroundhttps://voca.ro/1kWyjFw1vlxi
>>39573106How is that related?
>>39573644>How is that related?if there's good pone audio, it might be possible to rig it up with the chatbot, so your waifu can actually read the text to you
>>39573057Whats to reform? She was already the least evil, just stupid
Tried Tavern with a NovelAI key and while you can get some nice outputs it's too broken right now for me to really recommend it.I will continue to fidget with the settings but Pyg seem better suited.
Pygma balls experimental 6b actually delivers quality, shame I can't keep it up on mobile for long despite playing the thing in the collab. Pinkie decided to do a bj and when I was close she was adamant I should finish inside of her pussy. Also pygma seemed to have learned that marehood can wink with it's clitoris
>>39573106Already over.
>>39573818Holy fuck.What fucking faggots>pay us and NO copyright material, oh, and everything is manual now :)))
>>39573679I don't think 'but I'm stupid' is a valid defense in court.Maybe I'll make a pony Aria, too.
>>39572117>>39573912>trusting commercial entities
>totally blank (no description etc.) "Twilight Sparkle" character>third response to "what do you look like?" is thisKek. Based AIHow much point is there in actually writing out descriptions?
>>39574335Rumpa!
>>39573818Wouldn't it just be easier to make it so, before each generated voice to shipped, they put in an invisible noise or ID that can be seen in audio software? Like a spectrogram?
>>39574434Based on "While we can trace back any generated audio back [sic] to the user", they're already doing that.
>>39574335Same as why totally blank DEFs in CAI work, its because of whatever data was fed by coomers
Mommy
>>39574335This is why the larger the model the better the AI will be. Definitions are good though to reign in the AI on information and their writing style. The AI has leeway to be creative and if it's not reigned in just enough they'll go ooc. It happens on cai as well but not as often as it does in pygma because of it's smaller model.
>>39570559Too old for you?
And no, it isn't faster.
I'm starting to get bored. Is it over?
>>39574929>Now you have to wait for every single regen lol
Should we die now or?
>>39573818Is there a source on this, or is it just someone lying on the internet againI'm not seeing it on their Twitter
>>39575397Are you completely dense? It's right there at the top of their feed.Here I'm feeling generous https://twitter.com/elevenlabsio/status/1620032773905055744
>>39575882You're right, I just found it a few minutes ago. I must have been blind the first time I looked
