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Do you like them?
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>>39444232
Bat ponies are cringe
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>>39444251
KEekKeeEkKEeekKEEEEkKeEkKEEeEkKeEkKee
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>>39444232
I love them. I want some more of them.
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>>39444232
They're extremely breedable
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>>39444232
bat ponies are way too sexy
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>>39444232
I THINK BAT PONIES SUCKS
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>>39444257
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>>39444232
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bugs > bats
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>>39444232
Maybe
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>>39444232
Yes, and I like Mosina the most.
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>>39444232
I love PIKE
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>>39444257
What's this a reference to?
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>>39444501
A big steamy pile of shit aka (You)
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>>39444232
A bat is fine too.
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>>39444232
They're cute, and I like the muted color schemes most of them have. It's a nice contrast to bright ass candy colored ponies.
Also Porona a cute.
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>>39444505
IYKYK
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>>39444232
Baps are cool, yeah... but draconies are better
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>>39444232
I LOVE THEM!
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>>39444232
I like THE bat pony.
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>>39444232
...Why is she looking at me that way?
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>>39444402
nice butt
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>>39444232
I thought they were kinda autistic OC shit years back. I don't really mind them anymore, they're kinda hot. I can't be assed to remember any of them other than Echo.
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>>39444782
Shes looking at the guy behind you. Dont wave it will be really akward.
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Bat ponies are promiscuous.
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They like things kinky
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>>39444820
Oh. Okay.
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>>39444763
>transbat
now that's cringe
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>>39444844
You guys have no idea how much I've came to that picture
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>>39444232
They cute.
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>>39444232
Lewd and cute.
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>>39444232
I miss 2013 bat threads.
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Beware the baps
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>>39446885
>living the dream
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>>39444392
Oh no, evil looking mares with big hairdos are my weaknesses.
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>>39446398
Echo is the very best
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>>39447165
They all are swell
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>>39444501
Severe autism
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>>39444232
Yes, batonies are very pog!
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>>39447165
>actual toothbrush
Smoller than expected
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!
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>>39448927
Maybe it's just a very big toothbrush
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>>39444232
NO!
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>>39448927
>>39449273
Bat's size is unknown until measured
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>>39444232
Bloody lov' 'em
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>>39449933
checked
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>>39448996
Based batfang blessing us with bats
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It's batmas
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>>39449994
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>>39450474
Faster!
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>>39444567
Products of rape.
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>>39451163
Is it supposed to be bad?
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>>39451262
Go to bed Haber
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I am writing a really weird story with a bat pony as the main character. How do I describe her using echolocation to detect things? What would being able to do that be like? Is it as good as being able to see?
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>>39444763
Based. Fluttershy best batpony vampire.
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>>39453308
I'm no expert but I believe it can give relatively detailed contours of the environment, in real-time if the pulses are frequent enough. Probably may also give some information about texture of the stuff around it - e.g. I wouldn't be surprised if wood and metal were distinguishable. Obviously it would give no indication of things like color, which includes any text or markings, and I think there's also some detail resolution limit that I'm guessing will depend on the wavelength of the sound - though I have no idea what the typical resolution will be, you might want to do some research into that. The resultion will probably depend on distance since the sound will propagate outwards (and then back to the ears) in a cone. So for example I doubt they'd be able to read braille in the dark - but maybe I'm wrong; or maybe bats could have devised some kind of alphabet that's specifically made to be as easy to read with sonar as possible (I expect it'd still only be readable at close ranges, unless the markings are in a really large font; again do some research). I expect large differences in depth will be most noticeable - e.g. a tiny insect flying mid-air with nothing behind it will be detectable, whereas that same insect on a flat surface might just blend in. I think.

Some material will also absorb sound instead of reflecting. This will probably reduce significantly the detail that can be gleaned about them, and may even make some object invisible beyond a certain range. One could imagine special anti-bat fabrics, crafted - or perhaps even enchanted - to reflect almost no sound or even none at all, thus being entirely invisible to echolocation.

Other than that, bats can fly around with echolocation so I'm guessing it should be easy to send pulses often enough to have more or less real-time "vision" around.
An interesting thing to note will be that bats will be able to hear each other's pulses. This raises the curious question of whether they might develop some kind of "sonar speech" - that'd probably depend on how far they can modulate their pulses to carry intelligible sounds; but even if not I expect at least some primitive communication, of a similar principle to morse code or something, would definitely get used.
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>>39444296
>wifing up and having a family with a qt bat
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When you have sex outside of marriage the result is always a bat pony. Bat ponies by law cannot get married, meaning they will always produce more bats.
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>>39453308
There is a semi-common theory out there that bats probably "see color" when they echolocate. The theory is, if you're relying on echolocation so much that it is more-or-less replacing sight, well the brain probably WILL invent some subjective experience that helps tell objects apart. That's why we see color, color isn't really real it's just superimposed by the brain for the sake of distinguishing between different objects. Bat echolocation lets them navigate so precisely that it's almost a bit suspicious, unless they can in fact "see color" through sound

It PROBABLY is true but also PROBABLY isn't actually color that they sense persay.—bats do have perfectly fine vision which includes color, so if it was ACTUALLY color they detect with sound ON TOP OF their normal color vision it would just be confusing for them. No, it would be a sensation LIKE color that humans have difficulty wrapping their head around. You can imagine there might be different "colors" for when their ears detect something rough texture vs smooth texture, something fast-moving vs stationary, low pitch vs high pitch, small object vs big object. Bats almost certainly have some internal subjective way of telling these different things apart through subjective "color" but it's one of those things that's difficult to test.
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>>39453356
Based Flutterbat enjoyer.
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>>39453975
>I didnt echolocate just to see ziggers
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>>39453384
>thus being entirely invisible to echolocation.
Not invisible. They'd produce "holes" of no response, especially while moving. Same as normal photonic sight, you want something that either lets the soundwaves pass through or replicates them as unchanged as possible for it to be invisibility.
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>>39453626
what that's a terrible headcanon
why can they not get married, I want a bat wife
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>>39454584
Racism. You'll have to settle for a civil union.
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>>39454591
good enough for me
I don't care about the law, just want a union of man and bat as two become one in flesh
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>>39454597
do not eat your batwife
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>>39454603
relax vorenigger, I mean loyal sex for procreation, no degeneracy
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>>39454568
Right, I was thinking in like an open space. It'll definitely look like a hole, so not a good way to disguise it among many other objects, but a great way to, say, make a bat fly into a trap or an obstacle while flying around outside.

The difference with sight is that echolocation will by necessity have limited range - if you're not getting an echo return, that doesn't mean there's a hole in reality or something asborbing the sound, most of the time it means it's just an open space. In comparison, visually you always expect to see something, whether it be just background light, or in fog, etc.
Maybe the closest visual parallel would be in a totally pitch black environment, where you're trying to shine a light around you to see. Everything around you would be pitch black, and, if you're in an open field or something, assuming you don't have some kind of ultra-powerful projector but rather just a normal hand-held battery-powered torch, in most directions you'd see black - unless there's stuff around to actually see. But a super-black object like your pic related would be very very hard to spot.

It'd be possible, but honestly because pitch black doesn't exist IRL it'd probably be possible to spot with eyesight anyway, so it'd be predicated on the bat not super-meticulously scanning everything around anyway. It'd just be a way to make the object as unnoticeable to the bat as to anypony else, taking away its echolocation advantage essentially. For something like a trap, it might even be particularly effective since the bat would be overconfident, whereas anypony else would be moving along much more carefully and might spot it.

>>39453975
That's a fascinating hypothesis in fact, and yeah, it'd make perfect sense for different sonar textures to appear as a kind of color-like sense to them.
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>>39454534
I like my normal Flutts, but every now and then it turns me on to see the bat come out.
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>>39455160
Nice
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>>39444232
The fangs make me so fucking hard
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>>39444232
Fuck yeah, Bat Ponies are among the top-3 fandom creations.
>>39444304
I agree Fred. I think Bat Ponies sucks my dick.
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>>39455579
What are the other two?
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>>39455570
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>>39455637
Stahp or I’ll coom!
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>>39444257
>>39444501
https://youtu.be/LRQrZz9czec
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>>39451145
The mare's dizzy!
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>>39457876
Oh no! Last warning!
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I'll say one thing for bat mares.
They can produce a stronger and more consistent suction than other pony types.
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>>39444257
Jesus, that is one of the most obscure references I have ever seen in pony.
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>Please don't return me, anon.
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>>39444501
mare mARE mARE AMrE maRe AmreS mAre AMREs mARE AMREs mARE mARE aMrE marE maRE maRe aMRE marE mARE mAre MAre MaRe marE mARE AMrE mARe maRE amRe MAre AMrE marE aMrE mARE amRe AMREs mARE
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>>39455570
bats do tend to nibble...
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I love them
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>>39458926
>>39459598
MARES ARE THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD
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Careful.
She'll lick your eyebrows clean.
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>>39460187
good I'm an old dirty bastard with those mites in them, maybe she can take care of the infestation I got going on
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They're big
And ugly
And mean as sin
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>>39459574
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You get ready to pick up a cholcate to eat it wehn you see this. What do?
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Who doesn’t love a cute bitey pony?!
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>>39460187
Unf… those fangs <3
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Sleepy
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>>39461865
>no fangs
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>>39461913
That's a cock-sucking breed of bat ponies
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>>39444232
Yes.
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>>39453308
Black Mirror's Metal Head episode has nice depiction of a robot's "vision" that might inspire you. 1:44
https://youtu.be/9EcY6VDgz1M?t=104
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>>39461921
You’re telling me you wouldn’t enjoy the thrill of having those fangs that close to your dick?
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>>39461921
but all bat ponies suck cocks
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>>39461935
Fuckable/10
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>>39461837
Me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA
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Give her all your soda. Anon
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>>39464354
>those teeth
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>>39459574
> bats do tend to nibble...

That’s how they show affection, Anon
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>>39444392
sauce?
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>>39463042
That's a stallion.
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>>39461965
There’s also the Echo Visor from Metroid Prime 2, which used a similar effect to this
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>>39465941
Did I stutter?
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>>39465380
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>His batapon is a winglet
Lolmao
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>>39444232
All pone are good.
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:D
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>>39466876
>natural born chunibat
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Is there any good compilation of popular bat pony fancanon?
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>>39468377
Not that I'm aware of, you just kinda need to lurk more.
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bapper should not be allowed access to fruity energy drinks
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it's been a while since i caught a bat thread, how are you doing? i drew something pretty cringe (crossover-ponify) earlier, i'll grab it for some new content
last time i looked i saw my ocs posted which made me happy. im glad at least one person on the internet deemed my art good enough to save
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>>39469613
found it, i drew it at work and then my tablet pen died as it is wont to do
spoiled for cringe
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>>39469746
Very cute bat
Also what the fuck does that middle bit say I cant read the scribbles
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take 2. don't try and put complicated clothes on ponies when you don't know how to draw clothes or clothes on ponies
i never got into the whole ponification thing
>>39469762
igogogogogogo
it makes sense when you know it
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>>39469900
ah shit, i forgot to colour some parts that were meant to be coloured
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>>39466157
Fair enough.
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Bats!
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>10
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>>39467996
ohno
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>>39468377
There was a bit of fancanon that folk came up with a few threads ago where Bat ponies give the best head, after anon posted that IRL bats will engage in oral foreplay, or just for fun.
Fucker gave me a tongue fetish.
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>>39473574
>he didnt already have a tongue fetish
The bat/ling alliance remains to this day. It's a shame there's so little art for it. Mostly it's tainted by vorefaggotry.
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>>39453975
Being able to "hear" color is actually very interesting. I might actually use that. Thanks a bunch.
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>>39474483
Is that a flying marshmallow cm?
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>>39475067
Looks like it's supposed to be a white rose to me.
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>>39472789
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>Page 9
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batty new year \o/
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>>39476728
Very rubbable belly
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>>39476728
No idea what the cutie mark stands for.
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>>39477510
>drippy purple moon
She wrote the equestrian version of Kingdom Hearts
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>>39477510
>he designs OCs using the g4 standard
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>>39478905
Uh, yes?
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>>39478905
G4 has a standard for cutiemarks?
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>>39479464
DYEWTS? Cheerilee explained this in detail early on.
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>Page 9
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>>39475372
>the bat thread's forgotten about one of its original bat pones
Sad. Gloomie's got a white rose on her butt.
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>>39480089
>implying I listen during class
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>>39481404
Any story behind the white rose?
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>>39481662
>Failing Equestria's version of ele school
Fuck dude. That's rough.
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STOP THE BATS
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>>39482606
STOP THE BATS
MAKE THEM GO AND NOT COME BACK
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>>39482606
FUCK THE BATS
FUCK THE BATS
MAKE THEM CUM AND NOT FIGHT BACK!
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>>39482723
For fucks sake stop homelessing the bats
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>>39483586
Don't blame me, blame the uncaring owners technically a moron in Echo's case, but still who kick them out after replacing them with furries.
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>>39482723
Only assholes would throw bats out.
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Bats Bump Breads Buoyantly Bouncing Before BayBreak
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>>39483755
Can we adopt the bats to give them a loving home?
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>>39481984
Never read the original greentext, but it might explain it: https://pastebin.com/u/Crimson-Devil
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>>39484327
I don't think anyone would say no to that.
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>>39484327
If you can handle the bat sadness.
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>>39485320
Bat is not for sad.
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>>39485510
Bat is already sad. It is upon you to un-sad the bat.
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>>39485706
How to un-sad
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>>39485712
Pet, love, give mango
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>>39485925
These I can do
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>>39444319
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>>39453626
Marriage is a union on the eyes of god (choose YOUR god), the laws of mere mortals (men or pony) are irrelevant.
In your shitass headcanon batpones can't get legally married, but the eyes of god care not for such pettiness, they are married all the same.
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>>39485954
KEeEEekKEeEEEkKEEEEekKeeEEekKEeEeEkKeeeEeekKeeEEekKeeeeeEkKeeeeeeEkKEeeeekKeEEeekKEEEEE
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>>39485706
Abduct the bat and feed it fast food
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>>39485706
Kick the box and run
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>>39486079
Wrong bat, anon. She might soon end up on the streets too, though.
>>39486401
Why would you do that?
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>>39486050
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>>39486568
Based, now go decode the the encrypted one I posted the 23rd
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>>39486966
The one with a base64 line encoded? It's a youtube video, but the last characters don't decode properly, so I can't see shit.
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So-o.. what good fictions do you know about batmares?..
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>>39487541
fuck haha oh well, i forget the which video
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>>39488373
Off the top of my head, if you don't mind Starscribe then Fine Print is excellent though it's about a bat stallion. Forbidden Places, set in the same universe, has a really cute bat mare - though there's four MCs so a bit less focus on the bat.
Journey with a Batpony (and the couple of short stories that come before that, just read them chronologically) has lots and lots of bats and a lot of excellent worldbuilding. But the MC is also a bat stallion - who is shipped with Twilight, which some people are allergic to, but if you can get past the canon x OC ship then it's a quite worthwhile story.

I'll post more later if I go through and remember some more good bat stories.
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>>39488885
Thanks anon
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>>39489808
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>>39488885
Feh. Stallions feh. Already heard of a few of them, but thanks anyway.
Reminds me of Diary of Madman, where MC has a crew of bat guards and Blossom Midnight, but there's so little attention on them.
Also I've found in the Writefag's thread(>>39403560) this wonderful green: https://pastebin.com/u/MossMoon3
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>>39490876
What's wrong with stallions?
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>>39491423
Nothing wrong. I quite liked Watcher from "Diaries of a Madman". But, well, I seek for romance with batmare. So feh stallions.
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>>39491450
I see. That makes sense.
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>Page 9
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>>39491450
Now that I think about it, I haven't seen many batgirls in lovey stories.
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>>39492791
Exactly! Sometimes I find romsroty with batmare here and there, but I thought there should be more of them.

Forgot about "My Filly, Nightshine", but that's ongoing. Really comfy story,
And "The Mare of the Night".
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>>39493288
Based number get, and based mare lover
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>>39493288
I wanna smooch that bat.
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>>39492791
You might want to read forbidden places then. Though admittedly the romance between vesper and Blake isn’t focused on to heavily. the story otherwise is legitimately quite decent to. Fine print is also a good romance story with a bat, though it’s a guy. And if you want clop, read Chris’s batty family, though it’s forever unfinished.
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>>39493352
>>39493407
Screw you colts, I'm going home.
>>39493457
>You might want to read forbidden places then
Indeed I want to read it now, thanks.
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>>39493457
Who is Vesper that’s a name I used for one of mine
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>>39494098
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>>39494326
Batpony of the fic. originally a guy named Jordan, but got turned into a bat mare after going through a ancient portal to equestria which his friends. In the fic, magic kind of subsumes non-magical things. and if you use it to much you’ll eventually lose your humanity to your new biology and friendship magic. Meaning you’ll just eventually turn back into a pony if you go through a portal to earth again. Which is what happened to him.
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>>39495215
dumb frogposter
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>>39491450
>bat(h)
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>>39444232
Yeah they're cute. I'd pet them. ...A bat mare won't rape me if I pet her, right?
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>>39496568
No they won't. You do need to be careful however, batponies have a massive resistance to diseases but they can still transfer them.
If you aren't careful you might be infected with the snuggles.
You'll find yourself having the urge to bring yourself close as possible to a batpony, and over time you'll be less and less able to resist this. There is no cure, but the batponies understand and will look after you and hug you with their wings.
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>>39497299
My god... The horror.
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AI generated bats
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>>39499091
OSHA bats
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>>39495045
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>>39495215
Would this be effective against parasprites?
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>>39501607
you would need a lot of hungry bats for that
>>39499887
dumb health and safety bat ruining all the fun
i want to drink at work!
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>>39499887
Please as someone with experience working midnight shift, OSHA rules are just a suggestion that bat is a narc
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>>39501607
>>39501615
Parasprites aren't flying fruit so no. It might be initially effective against fruit bats, but then the baps would be very sorry for semi-cannibalism.
>>39502013
Bribe the OSHA bat with vicious snuggling.
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>>39499887
>Safety and health protection at the work place
Any particular reason why this bat is a kraut?
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>>39502509
Because it's a kraut's
>ponysona
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>>39502558
Oof. Small wonder it's autistic.
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>>39504096
Man, that hurts to look at.
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>>39504368
She did end up being thrown away by her owner. >>39485706
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>>39504372
So she's hard to handle, I take it.
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>>39504372
>pic
That bat is a menace
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>>39499887
SUCK MY COCK, OSHA
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>>39504777
No, she's easy. Just put her away, problem solved.
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>>39499887
cute boy bats
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>>39506178
doesn't this make the bat sad again? seems like it could defeat the purpose
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>>39506178
>>39506747
This is not the proper way to treat a bat :(
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>>39506747
You can't be sad while you're a piece of rock. Or happy. Or angry. Or anything, really!
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>>39491450
>that light blush
She's secretly liking it.
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>Page 8
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LET ME TO YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE MOTHS SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE.
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>>39508759
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>>39507788
roll again
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>>39510402
There's no duplicate protection, anon.
Enjoy your new flock.
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>>39510893
Make sure to give them lots of mangos.
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>>39444251
fpbp
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>>39444251
Based
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>>39513631
very fuzzy bat
do you think she poofs her floof as an intimidation tactic?
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>>39510906
bats are skilled hunters and outdoor bats can provide most of the mangos by themselves, but make sure they're not overhunting the local population. if there's not enough mangos available to reproduce it could cause a devastating famine and an increase of territorial disputes to secure the best hunting grounds.
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>>39514828
>Mangoes become invisible out of evolutionary necessity
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>>39515354
Bats can EEEEEEcholocate though. Invisibility won't help them!
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>>39515393
I am experiencing distaste
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>>39473721
I would pull her tongue out and lick. Maybe instead of pulling I would use suction, from my own mouth.
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>>39515500
>licking her tongue
unf
>Maybe instead of pulling I would use suction, from my own mouth.
very unf
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>>39515451
Why does bat not like water?
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>Page 8
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>>39516439
Why would you? It's moist and weird!
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Bat bump
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>>39517579
Taking after based flutterflaggot I see
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>>39516902
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>>39517643
What do you mean?
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>>39518516
WOULD YOU KISS A BATP??? Y/N
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>>39518574
i would kiss any batp but the males get more...
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>>39518574
Sure. Bats deserves kisses too.
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>>39518588
Him and his sister both deserve a smooching
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>>39518574
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>>39518574
Y
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>>39444232
Does they canon?
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>>39521401
Yes.
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>>39518150
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>>39518574
No, lmao.
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>>39522737
Why not though?
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>>39522821
Because...i don't want to kiss such a goofy creature.
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>>39523644
Imagine the mango kisses.
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>>39514346
Of course.
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>>39522704
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>Page 10
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>>39486079
Do not fat the bat
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>>39527424
She has been eating a steady diet of Mcdonalds for over a week. This morning she looked like she was waiting for death. A tropical fruit platter made her perk up though.
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>>39527438
>A tropical fruit platter made her perk up though
I've got a mango with your name on it.
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>>39504372
bats n box
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10bat
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>>39527958
Box bat a cute.
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>>39528981
Very expensive shipping, unfortunately.
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>>39527424
>Do not fat the bat
Impossible
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>>39529363
The bat is not fat the bat is with foal
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>>39529363
>>39529372
oh no, they're multiplying
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>>39529374
Good! That means they're sustainable
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sex with bats
https://u.smutty.horse/mlgnfdsxufz.png
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Stumbled upon a build of Stoic's game. Decided to check if it had a Bat pony model assets in it. Turned out it's there. Sadly rig is broken on export, so it's just the model.
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>>39444232

Every guy I know with a thing for bat ponies gives better head than most girls
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>>39529609
wo
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>>39529701
super cute
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>Page 9
Not for bats.
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>>39529609
Leave faggot.
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>>39530749
so unhygienic
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>>39530749
Bat fever pot.
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>>39529609
Oh god yes…
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>>39532709
Quick, scrunchy bats need some boops to unscrunch themselves!
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I'm Japanese single man
what is t attractiveness of MLP?
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>>39532978
Humans and ponies are meant to be together
Simple as that
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>>39533028
but pony is merely a beast
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>>39533034
No, horse is beast.
Pony can think and talk so pony is person.
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>>39533066
so, is pony umamusume?
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>>39446123
So where did the “vampire Vinyl” theory even come from? I’m aware that she wears sunglasses all the time and only goes out at night, but she could also be a blind pony who’s afraid she could get into a car accident thanks to Ponyville’s crowded roads.
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>>39444232
Am I the only one who thinks Flutterbat would vampirize one of her friends to keep said friend from dying or something?
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>>39533350
No one likes 'bad ends' as much as you.
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>>39533370
Don’t you mean “bat ends”?
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>>39533350
I am in support of this theory.
>>39533370
Bad end?
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>>39533087
gesundheit
I am american man and do not speak foreign language
you must explain
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>>39533066
>No, horse is beast.
Horse is lover
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BAT BUMP
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>>39534422
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>>39534961
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>>39444232
How come Vampity is so popular?
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>>39533753
>I am american man and do not speak foreign language
>says gesundheit
Pottery.
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>>39535988
scheisse, mein cover hast been blown
I'm in fact not american, I'm actually nazi
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>>39536173
This you?
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>>39535799
Is it because vampires are commonly associated with class and sophistication? Or does their adoration of the “music” that the “children of the night” make turn them into unsophisticated hicks?
>>39533350
>>39533386
>Be Anonpone.
>You decided to take a scenic trek through the Everfree Forest as part of your trip to Ponyville in an attempt to get away from the hustle and bustle of the inner city of Canterlot.
>While the scenery does look beautiful, especially with how well the light of the moon reflects clearly off of a particular lake, you are bitten by an extremely poisonous snake and you begin convulsing.

>Be Flutterbat.
>You were making your rounds through the Everfree Forest to make sure no cockatrice showed its face in Ponyville without being given friendly treatment, but you find a collapsed pony on the ground in critical condition next to a lake.
“Oh, no!”
>You yelp, even though the pony might not be able to hear you. You can hear an erratic pulse and can deduce that this pony is on the brink of death.
>You bring the pony back to your cottage on the border of the Everfree Forest and know exactly what to do: you need to suck the blood out of this pony and turn this pony into a vampire such as yourself in order to prevent him from dying.
“It’s OK… I’m gonna make sure you live through this!”

>Be Anonpone.
>You were vaguely able to see that somepony took you into her home and said she wanted you to stay alive.
>However, you could also feel her mouth embracing your neck and a steady flow of blood going out of it and into her mouth.
>You don’t know what she’s doing, but you gradually feel a greater and greater urge to lose consciousness.

Wat do?
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>>39536173
I knew it.
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>>39536248
Hug. Literally, if I saw a fluffy bat mare when I was dying I'd just hug her, insitinctively
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>9
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>>39536657
Yes.
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I think I'm running out of bat stories
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Once upon a time there was a bat
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>>39537575
It was a pretty Stallion Bat named
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>>39444232
Would (You) fuck one, if she was offering?
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>>39536308
>You hug the yellow bat pony as you begin to pass out.
>When you awaken, you feel as though all of the blood has been drained from you, so you are surprised you are still alive.
>You try to hyperventilate to replenish the lost blood, but to no avail.
>“Good morning!” The bat pony exclaims.
>“I got you this, so I hope it helps.” She gives you what clearly looks like a donation bag from a blood bank, but there is no IV at the cottage to pump it into your body.
>You continue to hyperventilate in vain as you remember that drinking blood is unhealthy, but it may be the only option left to keep you alive.

Wat do?
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>>39537922
That wouldn’t help and what you are doing wouldn’t help, you are now die
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>>39537922
Depending on how panicked I am I'd ask why the hell I'm supposed to drink blood or if I'm losing my mind because I appearantely can't breath just suck up. Realistically the latter while mumbling some bullshit. She helped after all
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>>39537922
I have to call bullshit. Consuming animal blood hasn't killed anybody, Poles and Belarusians drink whole bowls of goose blood as soup and Mongolians traditionally drink animal blood and they live and we have no reason to assume that it's pony blood
>>39538029
Drink up and worry not
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>>39538005
The implication was that Flutterbat turned Anonpone into a vampire to save his life. After all, this is the batpony general, no?
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>>39537922
Ask her what in the hell happened in a rambling way, then after she explains it, unwillingly give the blood a try only to find it like ambrosia cause muh vampire.
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>>39539438
>But while you are hyperventilating and tempted to take the blood meant for someone else, you enquire as to why there’s a blood bag in front of you and how it got there.
“Uhhh…” You pause to catch your breath and hope for the fires to start again. “What is that doing in front of me? And how did you even get it?”
>“Well, I figured you’d have problems with blood flow after what I did, especially with how close to death you were, so I used the time you were unconscious to organize a blood drive. Everypony thinks they’re donating for my nonexistent cousin with cancer, but I’m simply preying on their generosities all so that ponies like us can stay alive.”
>You realize that the yellow bat pony is the closest you’ve ever come to meeting a real-life vampire. Would feeding her raw garlic or showing her your Star of David pendant you left at home do anything?
>But then again, you are left with a concern as to why she does this. Does she also have a desperate need for blood just as much as you do right now?
“Wh-what’s in it for you? Why— why do you do this?”
>“Because we need to do this to stay alive, you see? And you really need to—”
“Then why not organize the blood drive for yourself?”
>“We’d need too many of them and nopony would come if they think I’m not being serious.”
“Then n— no. I’m not touchin’ this. I’m not going to— aid and abet your playing of the heartstrings— and stealing blood that should have gone to cancer patients!”
>“Oh, but you must! I made you an immortal being, but you still have to drink blood from other people!”
“If that were true— I’d rather keep hyperventilating— until I get everything working again— or I’d simply die and avoid going to hell.”
>“Aw, come on! Your life means something! It wouldn’t be worth it just to throw it all away!”
“Forget it… if my continued existence means I have to condemn my own soul— I’d rather cash in my chips and go… If I have to drink blood, I’d rather have it from someone who donated it knowing— where it’ll go.”
>“But it’s the middle of the night and nopony would be willing to do that! And you need it right now!”

Wat do?
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>>39539042
her fangs are too cute to penetrate your skin
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>>39539846
Drink it. It's better than dying. Just add some accordingly desperate internal conflict or something
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>>39540016
>it's her blood
>she had planned to turn you all this time

>"Sleep all day, party all night, never grow old, never die."
>"But you must feed."
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>>39539846
have some internal conflict then drink it, finding it like actual pure ambrosia
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>>39539864
but what if i penetrate her
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>8
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>not having a bat pone folder you can use to bump the thread
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>>39542390
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>>39542702
Yes you do. You cock^W neck sucker.
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>>39542709
>>39542702
This is obviously based on something else, but I thought it would fit here anyway.

>Be Vinyl Scratch, formerly Melody Song and Song Min Ji.
>The daughter that you and Octavia adopted bore her own offspring and you receive news that he has said his first words.
>You rush in to head them.
^“Bleh bleh bleh!”
“I don’t say bleh bleh bleh!”
>“Or maybe you do SOMETIMES!”
“Look. I don’t say that, so how could he have learned it?”
<“Maybe he picked it up when you say you never say it?”
“OK, I’m just going to brush this off as some sort of freaky coincidence. I must be getting back to Tavi so that we don’t miss our show.”
>You leave the room.
>“Bleh bleh bleh!”
^“Blen bleh bleh!”
“It was YOU!”
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>>39469746
the first one is so much better than the second style wise. show more instead of not knowing shit
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>>39469746
qt
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>>39545412
First time I think I've seen one here
Does the hoofless show even have bats?
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>>39545528
no
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>>39545528
No, but Vampity, Flutterbat, and Vampire Shimmer are still popular among >no hooves artists.
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>>39545582
>>39545538
>>39545528
We did see Shimmy COSTUMED as a vampire, but that is about the closest we actually got. It would have been cool to see the EQG characters under some sorts of transformation spells, though, but I can’t help but think that they’d inevitably turn what our thread would want into a mishmash of “Dracula” and “Twilight Saga” references.
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>>39543610
>they're multiplying
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>>39546102
Leaving a bat unattended might cause it to bud off into several more bats. Never leave bats unattended, keep the bat infestations in check!
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Bap got onto your computer while you were at work and has watched an unhealthy amount of anime
What do?
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>>39543610
Okay. But made with whom? Bat foals don't just pop up.
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>>39548707
>>39546117
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>>39548707
With you you big fucking retard, sex makes children
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>>39549608
Bat, but taller!
Wow!
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>>39548707
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>>39548797
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shave the bats
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>>39551373
Do not encolden the bats.
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>>39551485
Encolden all the bats, this way they'll be forced to cuddle cutely!
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>>39444232
Only pussy
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>>39551934
Damn, that's a classy bat.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(military)
>A batman or an orderly is a soldier or airman assigned to a commissioned officer as a personal servant. Before the advent of motorized transport, an officer's batman was also in charge of the officer's "bat-horse" that carried the officer's kit during a campaign.
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>>39552357
So is the class associated with vampires why Vampity is so popular?
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>>39546117
>You need to keep bats close to keep their number in check
So that's why they develop a reputation of being 'stalkers'.
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>>39553698
>Bat looking at prey, 2023 colorized.
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>>39554116
Those hearts are signaling danger
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>>39554587
Nothing is more dangerous than heart eyes.
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>>39553698
>>39555046
>“You will be my husband throughout eternity.”
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>>39555471
Forever!
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>>39552629
>ywn be pulled aside and told you're responsible for this batmare who just stands there blushing and avoiding your eyes
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>>39555941
>ywn end up marrying that batmare years later and joke that you ended up as her eternal batman
why live, bros
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>>39556626
leathered.com
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>>39556976
unf
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>>39444232
Not really
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>>39557444
Why is this bat drawing furfaggotry? Is she a furry? Must we bring out the tar and feathers?
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>>39557474
She needs the bits. Drawing somepony's sonic oc may hurt her soul but at least she won't go hungry.
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Bats are for tender, loving, upside-down breeding
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>>39557555
How does a bat breed upside down with a non bat?
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>>39557769
Harnesses
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>>39557769
...Your school didn't have hanging upside down on ladders on PE? Isn't that mandatory?
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>>39557769
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lbo4IuXMgyc&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
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>>39557906
>strapped upside down into a harness to make sweet tender love with a bat
Unf/10
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Bumping the bats.
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Up.
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>>39540028
>>39540493
“How about this? If I must drink blood to survive— then I’ll try it by drinking… either yours or that of some creature in this forest… On the condition that you rebrand the blood drive in the morning for being… for us.”
>“If there’s really no other way you’ll survive the night, then I guess I’ll do what I must.”

>You’ve bled from the mouth before and are typically repulsed by the taste of blood.
>But you somehow need to drink blood in order to survive.
>You have no weapons with you, but you figured you could fashion a simple bow and arrow out of some feathers, some string, and two sticks.

>You go outside, make your bow and arrow, and train for a few minutes on your new weapon until you are confident you could be spot-on nearly every single time.
>You find a buck walking in your direction. You fire upon it, but you simply graze it.
>You hastily run for your arrow to try again, but the buck keeps getting in your way. After some delay, you try again and hit your deer, albeit in a different location than you intended.
>To make sure it was dead, you stab it in the eyes with your arrowhead and drive it through its heart with all of your might.

>You hesitate to drink from the hole that you opened that is gushing blood, but you have been told it is the only way you’ll survive if you’re unwilling to drink blood that was taken under false pretenses.

Wat do?
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Which /mlp/ bat these days is best suitable for lewd? And what's their personality like.
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>>39560610
Suck that bitch dry.
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>>39560610
>Take free blood
>Murder a deer
Fuck, this anon is a hypocrite. Drink the blood, bitch, you have already murdered the poor thing
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>>39560610
>refuses free blood on moral grounds
>kills an innocent animal and stabs his fucking eyes and heart
>hesitates to drink the blood of the recently massacred deer
what a faggot character, same energy as those people that complain that getting free food in a restaurant is a power play on the restaurant's part and insist on paying
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>>39560610
Can we get to the part when anon stops whining? This is batpony general, I'd say that nine out of ten faggots here are into vampires and would jump at opportunity to become one so it's kind absurd to them. Plus
this only breeds moments like mentioned here
>>39561374
>>39561031
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>>39559519
>conspirabat
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>>39560892
I don’t know, but wouldn’t you want to garlic powder and Star of David pendant ready just in case she vanted to duck your blood?
>>39561009
>>39561031
>>39561374
>>39561388
>You continue to hesitate as you see the blood gushing out of your trophy deer.
>You still remember what it was like to taste your own blood and you still hesitate to drink the deer’s blood.
>But you are on the verge of collapsing and your companion has said that it is the only way you’ll survive.

>You drink the deer’s blood from the hole it is gushing out of. Only this time, it tastes absolutely divine and you can never stop asking for more.
>Once the deer is drained dry, you begin to feel more alive than you ever have before in your life. You feel like you could simply conquer the world and make everyone on the planet your underling.

>However, it isn’t normal to drink a deer’s blood and your act of grotesqueness will certainly not be celebrated by anypony else.
>You begin to realize why vampires have fears of both mirrors and Stars of David, though you realize this brief act doesn’t really bring the same sort of self-hatred you’d imagine vampires having in those circumstances.
>But how long will it take before you kill one of your friends to be able to drink his blood? Will your own conscience ever lose power? Or could you slowly convince them to become vampires like in “Dracula” and in “The Twilight Saga”?

>You decide for now to live like a recluse for that night and stay another night in that cottage. In the morning, you’ll be able to drink free blood that was donated specifically to you and not given under false pretenses. But you debate when it will be safe for you to return to society or whether it will ever be safe.

Wat do?
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https://youtu.be/9BBZVQ4zBcU
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>>39562162
Well... We've got a dead deer here, best not to waste it. Maybe we can take it back and try trade it for some blood?
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>7
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>>39562544
But who would give blood from any creature in return for a deer carcass? Who would be willing to make that trade and what would make Anonpone think to make it?
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>>39562813
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>>39563108
A carnivore species, like the minotaurs, of course. That's high quality venison right there, they can spare a couple litres of blood for the deer.
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>>39563552
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>>39563949
What a handsome stallion, whats his name??
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>>39557769
Extremely carefully.
Seriously, lay down some cushions or something.
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>>39565856
Sounds like a sound precaution. Wouldn't want to break your neck when your bat lets loose in more than one reason of the word.
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>>39566823
Not sure if this is a mare or a stallion.
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>>39564105
Where would they even get the blood from? Though I guess butchers may have to exsanguinate the animals they serve if they don’t want their customers complaining about blood gushing everywhere.
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>>39567749
>>39564105
>>39563108
>t. city dwellers
Blood is removed pretty much immediately as part or a side effect of (field) dressing the animal, that is, removing its internal organs to make sure meat cools down as quickly as possible and doesn't rot.
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>>39567830
Remember seeing my dad prepare a deer before too after the field dress
Strung that fucker up and cut the throat so the blood drained out
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>>39567903
That's the standard procedure as far as I know.
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>>39568081
>>39567903
Yeah. Only the cultures and specific places that cook with blood (i.e. prepare blood sausage, which, while widespread, is usually still limited to poorer, or used-to-be-poor, places that can't afford wasting the animal) would collect it, the rest just pour it to waste or mix it into animal feed.
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Batty bump.
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>>39569214
yes she did and fuck her for sending those bastards after me

>we can't stop here, this is bat country
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>>39569214
Bats are still around. So you're right.
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>>39567442
>no eyelashes
It's a stallion. >>39498491 is a mare from the same artist.
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>>39567442
>>39569971
But would it matter if you encountered him/her and s/he vanted to suck your blood?
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I want to touch their ear tufts
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>8
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>>39444232
I was against bat ponies when they were just a niche thing autists made threads circlejerking about mago jokes but now that they're more mainstream and integrated into fanon more broadly, they're kinda cool.
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When things become spooky, then yes.
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>>39572492
How spooky are we talking?
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>>39569280
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>>39570079
Probably not. Bat pone is bat pone.
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>>39572492
More like cringe lock
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>>39573760
More like bat cock
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>>39573834
Does it have sharp little teeth too?
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Batty bump.
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Up, dammit.
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Don't let the thread sink this close to its conclusion.
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>>39576144
>The bat bag
That's a pretty neat idea.
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bat bedtime
goodnight bat
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>>39577245
What might bed time stories for bat pones be like? Some tropes might very well be reversed since they're said to be mostly nocturnal.
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>>39577476
https://youtube.com/watch?v=G9rWxzETkOw&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
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>>39578368
I am going to cut out its mitochondria (the powerhouse of the bat).
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>>39578438
Look out, single celled organisms can technically alter your RNA or even DNA. What if she codes unconditional love for her into your very being? Would you want that
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>>39578697
>Gene altering bites
Anon never stood a chance.
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>>39453975
>color isn't really real it's just superimposed by the brain for the sake of distinguishing between different objects
What do you mean by this anon? Color is the physical frequency/wavelength of the light you're picking up: it's caused by the physical emission properties of the objects you're looking at and carries real data about their surfaces that is the same for everyone even they interpret it separately. Your brain can make up color data, but the color data being delivered by your retinas is entirely a physical property of the light you're perceiving.
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>>39579418
Wait a second, is this bat lying on the top of a cake?
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>>39578798
Blood containing Iron neutralizes all magic (muh iron is mundane), so she can't mindrape you to eternally love her.
Cue desperate batpone trying to do it realizing anon is immune, then developing a real interest then feelings for him.
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>>39579016
He meant that colours themselves are a facade made by the brain to interpret said physical properties of the light, cause while light info is getting to your brain, you need to "know" how to decode it. There are animals that can SEE in infrared and ultraviolet, their colours are alien and impossible for us.
Kinda like if there were an alien that coincidentally also saw in our visible light spectrum, but they see as blue what we'd see red. You're both receiving the same data from the light, but you're interpreting it mutually exclusive ways. It's this that leads people to (correctly) claim that colour is not real. It's not a fundamental property, it's interpretation.
>but the light info!
Can you tell the colour difference, visually, between high and low UV light? How about gamma rays and microwaves?
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>>39579975
>It's not a fundamental property, it's interpretation.
It's interpretation of a fundamental property. By the same argument, you could say temperature isn't real because the sensation of heat or cold are just your nerves being stimulated to send information to your brain which your brain interprets. Without that specific interpretation of the stimulus your brain has no concept of heat, you can't observe the flow of energy otherwise.

Similarly, you happen to have the ability to perceive the stimulus of slight differences in a very narrow band of the EM spectrum. Downplaying that perception as somehow faker than any other experience you can have is just pseudointellectualism.
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>>39579975
>There are animals that can SEE in infrared and ultraviolet, their colours are alien and impossible for us.
If you're missing the eye lens or have improperly made artificial one, you'll be able to see in ultraviolet (it's pale violet), though not for long as it destroys retina rapidly. And it's possible to see in infrared, it's light pink.
>Kinda like if there were an alien that coincidentally also saw in our visible light spectrum, but they see as blue what we'd see red.
That's just called being colorblind. If the alien didn't have chromatic deficiency and could distinguish between all wavelengths in human-visible spectrum, he'd still see red as red and blue as blue; or rather, it will be COMPLETELY irrelevant how his brain subjectively interprets the colors because he'll pass all colorblindness tests.
By the way, what (You) see is just as subjective. There is no way to verify that you actually perceive red as red as opposed to any other color, all we can do is check that you can actually distinguish it from other colors (=your retina is excited in an unique way by this wavelength or their range or combination).
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>>39580431
In other words I should abduct you and the anon you're talking to and swap your eyes to see if your brains begin to process colours differently or if the colour processing is something done in the optic fiber or brain itself.
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>>39580448
Besides swapping eyes being impossible with modern tech, we already know that SOME processing is in fact done in the retina and the neural bundle, but the bulk of it still happens in the brain.
This is what your retina actually perceives.
>and swap your eyes to see if your brains begin to process colours differently
Won't. Humans (again, barring chromatic aberrations like colorblindness - where receptors are missing or have non-unique excitation patterns, or tetrachromacy - where they have an additional set and thus can distinguish more unique excitation combos) all have the same kinds of cells in the retina. Seeing them differently can only happen if you fuck up and miswire the cells (i.e. connect nerves used for reading red-green spectrum to blue-yellow or dark-bright By the way, this is why bluish yellow and reddish green are impossible. An alien that directly sees wavelengths as opposed to sets of gradients between two static colors will be able to see those two. receptors, or vice versa).
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>>39580161
Different anon, but I think the point here is that "color" is a concept entirely divorced from the wavelength of light.
We measure temperature in degrees, which are direct physical quantities. But we "measure" color in shades that have a complex and indirect relationship to actual wavelengths; and we even have colors for which no wavelength exists, just because it's something our brain interprets that way (cf. purple). We also have colors which are actually a mix of different wavelengths, etc. Yes, of course, colors arise FROM the differences in electromagnetic waves, but the actual phenomenon of color is quite detached from the raw physical wavelength/frequency, and tightly coupled to our optical perception more than anything.

Consider the fact, for example, that we have extremely detailed names for a very narrow band of the EM spectrum, and then just a half-dozen rough classifications for the entire rest of the spectrum. Meanwhile, for temperature, the entire possible range from 0K to infinity is referred to with equally-sized degrees, with no special consideration to the region around room temperature - because the degrees are a direct measure of an actual physical quantity, not some convoluted indirect perception.

The concept of "color" is as if instead of measuring physical temperature, we referred to it based on the subjective sensation on touch. But we don't. The same bucket of water might feel really warm or really chilly depending on what temperature you previously experienced, but it'll still be considered the exact same degree in any temperature unit, which everyone can agree on objectively.

>>39580431
>By the way, what (You) see is just as subjective. There is no way to verify that you actually perceive red as red as opposed to any other color, all we can do is check that you can actually distinguish it from other colors (=your retina is excited in an unique way by this wavelength or their range or combination).
Which I think is rather the point. There's no objective definition of color that's common to everyone. It's a subjective, non-physical, purely mental phenomenon.

So to go back to the original question 0 >>39579016, >>39453975 - since color is just a mental construct, there's nothing stopping a different species from experiencing, say, sonar texture as color, rather than EM wavelengths. Or both, and having some sort of three-dimensional "color sphere" that is perceived based on both sonar return and the EM wavelength.

That is, ultimately, the point. Not that color is somehow non-existent, rather that it's not a physical phenomenon, just a mental one. For us it's got an indirect relationship with the electromagnetic wavelength hitting our retinas, but there's no reason it couldn't be percieved based on other stimuli.
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>>39580525
>Consider the fact, for example, that we have extremely detailed names for a very narrow band of the EM spectrum, and then just a half-dozen rough classifications for the entire rest of the spectrum. Meanwhile, for temperature, the entire possible range from 0K to infinity is referred to with equally-sized degrees, with no special consideration to the region around room temperature - because the degrees are a direct measure of an actual physical quantity, not some convoluted indirect perception.
False equivalence. We not only have special consideration for the region around body temperature (it's called Fahrenheit) as well as a separate consideration for the temperatures between 400 and 1300 Celsius due to them being intimately intertwined with our technological progress it's the range of visible blackbody radiation of forging-temperature steel, the direct equivalent to temperature reading is wavelength, which is mapped for the whole photonic spectrum up to Planck temperature.
>but there's no reason it couldn't be percieved based on other stimuli
Besides me not arguing that point because it's fine for fantasy, consider that you can actually, physically "see" infrared.
With your skin.
Can you distinguish between different colors of infrared?
You can't. Colors require combining multiple perception ranges or values, otherwise you just see monochromatic intensity of one value.

Also, since there's no way to physically distinguish between an echo and regular noises (they both trigger the same perception mechanism - vibration of the eardrum plus delay before the sound reaches the other ear), bats perceiving color of textures would also perceive color of speech. They'd basically have synesthesia, with all the things that implies.
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>>39580578
>We not only have special consideration for the region around body temperature (it's called Fahrenheit)
Farenheit still covers the entire range from 0K to infinity with equal granularity
>as well as a separate consideration for the temperatures between 400 and 1300 Celsius
What do you mean by "special consideration"? In metallurgy? Certainly some professions will treat certain values specially, but this is the case for pretty much any specialised occupation ever. The Celsius scale is still universal.

>the direct equivalent to temperature reading is wavelength, which is mapped for the whole photonic spectrum up to Planck temperature.
And that is my point exactly! And wavelength is not color. Wavelength is the objective physical scale, color is a mental construct to make sense of the perception, with only an indirect relationship to wavelength.

>you can actually, physically "see" infrared.
>With your skin.
>Can you distinguish between different colors of infrared?
That's a fair point, but I think it only supports more the idea that color != EM wavelength, because we perceive a narrow range of wavelengths as color but then we perceive others as, say, just temperature.

>Also, since there's no way to physically distinguish between an echo and regular noises (they both trigger the same perception mechanism - vibration of the eardrum plus delay before the sound reaches the other ear), bats perceiving color of textures would also perceive color of speech. They'd basically have synesthesia, with all the things that implies.
That's an interesting point, but I disagree. I think it's entirely possible to percieve the same physical stimuli differently depending on context.
The best example I can think of is how we can visually peceive lighting color vs. object color, given sufficient context. Of course this is failible, but when it works, it works naturally without needing to put in any thought. Or on a similar key, distinguishing shade vs. darker colors on a drawing: it also "just works" even though the exact same RGB values might be printed on the paper (or screen). Yeah it's failible - optical illusions to that effect exist - but most of the time it works just fine. Our eyes perceive the exact same wavelength, but as part of reconstructing the image, the brain perceives one part as "this is light color X, with shadow cast on it" and another as "this is color Y, brightly lit".
I could imagine a bat, specifically adapted for this, could then perceive texture echoes in some innate way that lets it visualise the object's feel, while also hearing speech as just speech.
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>>39579016>>39579975
>>39580161
>>39580431
>>39580448
>>39580486
>>39580525
>>39580578
>>39580625
STFU and post bats, you fucking nerds
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>>39580744
It's a bit too late for that now though.
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>>39580744
Ok
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>>39580895
wtf name her
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>>39581007
>eating bats
Leather Muncher?
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>>39581040
I thought she was sending out bat-shaped echolocation waves
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>>39580625
What about snakes that can sense infrared though? Are they not able to tell apart different temperatures except through brightness? I suppose that makes sense. They might not interpret it visually anyway
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>>39581060
I don't know if anyone can honestly answer that. In theory I don't think there's anything stopping a different "cone" type cell, sensitive to infrared, from essentially providing an expanded color range. Or you could have multiple sensors sensitive to different ranges of infrared, and that would provide you with a range of sub-colors within the infrared region (exactly like how we divide the visible spectrum into different colors, as opposed to just "brightness of visible light").

I assume that they probably only have one sensor and therefore can only get brightness. And I don't know if anybody has ever studied how they perceive or interpret it, or if it can even be ever known.
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Anyone making a new bread?
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Finally the bats have been stopped.
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>>39581007
I have no idea if batponies have their own custom naming conventions, but Sickle Eve if that works

>>39581043
I drew bat-shaped E's
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>>39581337
>I drew bat-shaped E's
Oh. So that was it.
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Well, it was a fun thread.
See you, bats.



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