Previous thread: >>38695741Quick rundown>We're making another anthology made up of a compilation of short pony clips.>The aim isn't strictly to make something flashy and intricately edited, but to put together something enjoyable that expresses your love for the show.>Remember that the people of the past didn't make stuff to capture some old memory, it was simply done for fun and pone.How do I contribute?>Submissions are CLOSED.The Antithology will premiere on Saturday 25th at 11:30 AM GMT-4 on /mlp/con's Cytube 2 >>38653800.Contribution listhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1nG1ITnYOMEfbVBeuI_igj6ggq0G-VLQXDQilcEf8NbM/editProposed clip order>>38754480>>38756270
So anon, what did (you) contribute to the antithology?
>>38735392kek>>38746147Very good, the characters are nice and expressive. Also nice flash pinkie. Gmod brings me back.
>>38756634One (1) shitty clip I threw together in a few minutes because I lack creativity
>>38756634like 6 videos, a collab and rendered videos for someone else
So, asking respectfully: what exactly was the justification for excluding Sensitive Content again? It doesn't seem to be partaking in any drama/shitflinging as far as I can tell. And the accounts in it are pretty /mlp/-adjacent, so it seems harmless enough to me. I see the sunbeam mare, I smile. Simple as.Is there something I'm missing? Or is the mere sight of twatter's UI alone in one (1) clip out of 170 submissions seriously enough to scare people off?
>>38756634Literally had an idea and started working as soon as the deadline was reached and pulled an all nighter, but it was worth it. At least I can feel like I had a little hand in the antithology and /mlp/ con this year.I have many, many ideas, but not the skills to turn them into reality. Hopefully by next year I will be able make many contributions.
Will there be a version without the G5?
>>38756634Hangmare Applejack ApplePinkie on airline satisfactionPinkie laughs at a national tragedyAll NightMARE LongDashie's KingdomThe New PonkerSelf Defense SituationThe Big DayFilly love is filly lifeSchizomareThe Bridge of DeathWrestlemarenia X-SevenQuite a few wrestling ones now that I realize, technically ANL as well since that was the song for the Reigns vs. Lesnar package for WM38 but I already liked the song beforehand and in that tuning specifically. Would've done more if it weren't for a severe case of creator's block near the end. Almost double my submissions from last year too.
Will there be a version that's just the G5?
>>38756634The clips with the all-caps titles.>>38756674I think it was based off it feeling 'wrong' in a mostly SFW anthology.
>>38756696Gah, thought you meant porn when you said Sensitive content. Same thing probably applies.
>>38756696not him, but "sensitive content" is the name of a submission, he is not talking about nsfw content.>>38756674I don't think it is really problematic, but I think people found it low effort or something, being just a "twitter screenshot" submission.
>>38756712Most people on the board have a grudge with most social media due to it's widespread presence on the internet; especially on 4chan. Other reasons too, probably. is 4chan a social media
>>38756704>>38756712>>38756720If OP thinks it feels wrong or isn't high effort enough, that's fair I suppose. He's the one in control and it's no skin off my nose. I passionately hate social media too, but I just think it's sad that we may be deprived of a cute, /mlp/-adjacent sunbeam mare moment just because some autists melt down when they see the twitter logo. That's all.
>>38756720No. It's a forum, an anonymous one no less.
>>38756634"Tenacious D In Equestria" and "Stop". Not a lot but I'm proud of how my little clips came out.
>>38756634mare at the door, waifu in my bed, and (You) in the /mlp/ corporation
>>38756634I did 4 four clips this year instead of one clip like I did last year, feels good to make more content.
>>38756634Two clips. Which is two clips more than last year so I'm pretty happy with the result. Though one was so bad I'll start pretending I only made one.So yeah, as I was saying, my one clip is pretty alright.
>>38756785You could name at least one.
>>38756687kill yourself. I mean it. I didn't even make a single g5 clip, but treating it as some barbie-tier spinoff is retarded.
>>38756738Thanks for that, Tenacious D is extremely nostalgic to me
>>38756728My take on it is less about the fact it’s social media, more that the first antithology had a few skits that were just focused on Twitter or fandom drama (woot/nowacking/whatever) and it just brings things down to that level, when instead it could simply be focused on stuff actually related to pony and board-centric trends and memes
>>387566348 clips, including A Message From Trixie and Mare Museum.I just rewatched the first Antithology to get hyped, and boy does that Joshua Graham ending hit me hard every time. It's going to be exciting to see how this one comes together, and I want you all to know that it's been a blast to contribute. Together we're crafting something with pure SOVL, and I couldn't be prouder of (You) all.
>>38756849>treating it as some barbie-tier spinoffThat is exactly what it is. I'm not sure if the video will be available before the premiere for editing or if the editor will provide such a version.
>>38756849Not that guy but there are 27 eqg and 18 G5 threads in the catalog right now. It doesn't matter that the source material is magnitudes less bad than eqg, it's still a cancer on /mlp/. How much more of new crap can the board handle before it's all watered down to generic 'pony' (or not even)? I don't care about G5 myself but I get why someone could want to separate themself from it completely.
>>38756634Not enough, i feel. Only a few moderate effort pmvs
>>38756978Have you considered suicide instead?
>>38756634Sunbutt's got a nice but
>>38756720Stop projecting>>38756728>but I just think it's sad that we may be deprived of a cute, /mlp/-adjacent sunbeam mare moment just because some autists melt down when they see the twitter logo. That's all.Basically this. who fucking cares if some people dislike social media, not everyone in the board hates social media and most importantly the parts about "social media" where actually made to mock them. Isn't the point of 4chan to be a place where you don't give a fuck? instead of being so insecure that you sperg if someone hurts your feelings?>>38756884A clip of the titanic because the Derpibooru Drama and The twitter posts of JHALLER mocking us and then being fucked on. oooh, such drama.I bet if anyone had issues with both clips it's because they were actually buttmad about the whole situation instead of being laughing their asses off>it just brings things down to that levelI think you souldn't be on 4chan from begin with then
>>38756634only the p files because i misremembered the deadline and got caught off guard. I wanted to do a few more :(
>>38757180What if people being mad at social media is because they got banned or ass-handled there so now they have a melt down when people mentions them
>>38756634Nothing. At least the few submissions I watched had a similar feel to the first couple anthologies, which I wasn't expecting, so maybe next time I will submit something. I like the short little pmvs and had a few ideas that I held on to over the years.
>>38756634A few animations OP pic included and a few other skits. 6 items total.
>>38756634In terms of runtime, less than last year.However, I'm much more happy with their quality this year.
>>38757180>Isn't the point of 4chan to be a place where you don't give a fuck?Basically this. I'm mildly disappointed in OP for rewarding the loudest, most annoying spergs by catering to them without any actual justification for it. But hey, it is what it is.Whoever created that clip, if you're out there, thanks for submitting it. I thought it was cute, and it gave me a sensible chuckle.
>>38757345I've created some entries for this year because i knew it's 4chan but if the Antithology isn't better than the Anthology where they just decide based on their bias, then what's the point i wonder. I mean i know people sperg about Discord because they accuse it that those groups on Discord to become "elitists", then they act the same way even for projects from the board where everyone "could" contribute UNLESS is something they don't like because retarded reasons.
>>38757180>I bet if anyone had issues with both clips it's because they were actually buttmad about the whole situation instead of being laughing their asses offWell you sound like a stupid drama obsessed retarded subhuman manchild, so it's not terribly surprising that you would think this.
>>38757388>stupid drama obsessed retarded subhuman manchildFound One
>>387566343 collabs and no time for my own submission.
>>38757379>if the Antithology isn't better than the Anthology where they just decide based on their bias, then what's the point i wonder.As someone who’s had some run-ins with the Anthology team I can guarantee that OP is still doing a better job than them. Most of his decisions are completely reasonable, to me at least. But now that it’s been brought up, it does seem like an odd clip for him to axe.OP, if you’re paying attention to the thread, care to explain what exactly you found so objectionable about the Sensitive Content clip? Did it break one of the rules you set forth, or was it excluded just because you felt like it? You have a good track record imho so I’d be interested to hear out your side of it.
>>38756623>4am PST for the antithologyWhat the fuck?Also a request to the editor. I think it'd be best to put some sort of count down timer for the live audience. It'd give a bit more time for people to file in like with both the introductory message and the intro itself from last year.
>>38749113>>38749122Hey, thanks for the kind words, guys!Here, have another one:https://u.smutty.horse/mhuzunkvyzr.mp4I know submissions are closed. I don't expect this to make it into the video - it was just REALLY grinding on my OCD that I only had one commercial bumper when they always come in pairs, and that I made a thing for one Royal Sister and not the other. /blogshit
>>38757497Correction: 8:30am PST. My Bad. Still a little more early, but it definitely accommodates eurofags, so that's fair.
Not its creator, but I shortened the "Snowpity Snowstorm" clip that many asked to exclude it in the previous thread.https://u.smutty.horse/mhuzzwykrkt.mp4I'm not asking for replacing the original submission, just want to hear your opinions if it's more concise now that it's shorter.To its creator: try getting better quality rips for your projects in the future.
>>38756634Submissions 119-131. I'm still proud of the high effort ones and I had more ideas but not enough time to put them together.>>38756892>Together we're crafting something with pure SOVL, and I couldn't be prouder of (You) all.Even with the rough state of the 2nd half or so of last thread, this is still true. Everyone here should be happy they contributed something and that we made it together.>boy does that Joshua Graham ending hit me hard every timeThanks! I don't know if I will ever make something that good again but I am happy so many people resonated with it.
>>38756634Honestly I'm a lot less proud of this year's contribution compared to last year's, despite having worked a lot harder on it.It's frustrating.
>>38756978>before it's all watered down to generic 'pony'Zoofags, Antithology#3 will be ours!
>>38757180Or, I just don’t give a shit about Twitter and Derpi drama on a pony board and think including that garbage massively drags down the overall quality of the thing.
I really hoped we wouldn't have to start this stupid discussion again. For the record I think all of the omissions/inclusions were reasonable and the most I'd change would be cutting Flutterpush and maybe fillies.>>38756720It literally isn't. Maybe you're too young to remember internet forums but those were a thing before leddit (arguably also a forum, only a shitty one) and dicksword replaced them.>>38757180>instead of being so insecure that you sperg if someone hurts your feelings?It's literally the opposite. Those woot and Jhaller clips were the epitome of masturbatory self-gratuitous crap. They were unrelated to ponies and their sole merit was "look guys, we won". Which thankfully is true but flaunting it like that dragged the rest of the anti to that very basic, childish almost, level.>I think you souldn't be on 4chan from begin with thenOn the contrary, despite pic related /mlp/ is one of the only places that cares about these tiny horses more than unrelated garbage. Keep that shit out of here, it's already everywhere else in the 'fandom'.
>>38758479>I just don’t give a shit about Twitter and Derpi drama on a pony board and think including that garbage massively drags down the overall quality of the thingIf you don't care then why you thinks it "lowers the quality". Quality of what? The best animated clip are not even about such things. Also it's not even discord drama it's just a guy saying "i like how creative you can be in this fan game X" and the next image is someone which manage to make a toilet pony in the same game. Show me where is the drama in that. Or a guy which explains clopping.>>38758528I think you are just trying to make us look more mature than you think we are.>Which thankfully is true but flaunting it like that dragged the rest of the anti to that very basic, childish almost, level.That was the whole point>despite pic related /mlp/ is one of the only places that cares about these tiny horses more than unrelated garbage. Keep that shit out of here, it's already everywhere else in the 'fandom'.We care about horses and don't give a fuck about drama or what (you) think of drama or what (you) think about social media.Once again (you) are just projecting your opinions and are insisting on removing content from different anons because (you) feel mad about it.The guy who posted the Discord Thing was just having a laugh, same as the Streamer Clip, but NO, since someone here doesn't like the that others might have fun and care not about something you had to sperg and force OP to remove them
>>38758716why do we exclude eqg?because it's extremely low qualitywhy do we exclude social media?see above
>>38758721>why do we exclude eqgBecause was in the rules of the previous OP, which also had "No G5" in the early threads before it was removed>why do we exclude social mediaBecause some retards will speg about it. There is no rule about the dreaded "social media"
>>38758724>why do we do thing?>because da rulez say soHuh, social media really DOES rot your brain!
>>38756634You're breaking the cart, Babs. Only one simple clip this time with an idea I've had since basically last year. After the 2(.5) relatively high effort (for me) submissions last year I didn't have any ideas this year.>>38756720By definition, yes (forums are social media, >>38758528 >>38756733, they are a place for social interaction where content can be shared and discussed). Anonymity makes it a special case, but it's still a place to interact with other people. Just because you don't know anyone's name or pseudonym doesn't mean you don't interact with them to satisfy certain social needs.Now going by what is usually referred to as social media nowadays, i.e. the big social sites and networks like Twatter and Fagbook, it's not really that because it's not that big and well-known and because of the anonymity, but look e.g. at /pol/, it's essentially anonymous politics Twitter/leddit nowadays, or /soc/, which is a board that exists.
>>38758732So you are saying that since rules don't matter we could had EQG clips? You absolute moron. The OP had RULES about what you were prevented to make clips for and there was nothign about "social media" but there was "No EQG"
>>38758724>>38758745Rules are only here to express the will of the board, specifically as the Anons who discussed the topic saw it. If the OP had "No clips based on social media and streamers" would you not mind their exclusion? Approaching the rules this way misses the point. Rather than keeping to the letter of the law, the submitted clips should adhere to the IDEA behind the rules. You can argue what does and what doesn't follow the idea but if so many 'butthurt Anons' agree that something doesn't belong, then it just doesn't, full stop. Inb4>but that be overused to nuke anything you dislikeIt doesn't, when a claim is unreasonable Anons will speak out against it.
>>38758732>want to make stuff for a collaborative project>project has Rules and a Deadline or you are busted>do thing by following rules and deadine>get called out because you followed the rulesYou are the living proof that not only Social Media rots your brain
>>38758765>If the OP had "No clips based on social media and streamers" would you not mind their exclusion?Yes because it was established before someone wasted their time doing the clip. If i go to do stuff for a project and the rule say "don't do A, B and C, i won't do A, B and C. If the Project say "Don't do X and Y" and i do Z and then some colplains "WHY YOU DID Z" it makes no sense to me>idea but if so many 'butthurt Anons' agree that something doesn't belong"so many" how exactly? it was already pointed out that there were both anons okay with the clips and against them and was also pointed out that there is a chance that the "so many buttmad" anons could be just one guy samefagging>when a claim is unreasonable Anons will speak out against it.Which they literally did in the previous thread and are also doing here but apparently someone doesn't want to read
Should there be an afterparty thread like last year or just have post-premiere discussion here/in the mlpcon thread?>>38757497It'd be pretty silly to have that in the final video. Could just ask the /mlp/con mods to queue a short unrelated pony vid before the anthology. Or someone could quickly ponify https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7gf6_85-jQ but that's so short I'm not sure it would help with latecomers.>>38757632I think this should be used instead of the edit from the spreadsheet.
>>38756623I need to browse the board more. I've been locked into TFH for so long and jaded by the shitposting threads that I didn't even know there were submissions for an Antithology
>>38758870go back to /v/ nigger
>>38758871>immediate responsenot even mad, impressed more than anything>back to /v/never been lmaoproject harder
>>38756666Hopefully those quads mean your clip is better than you think
>>38759044It's really not but here https://u.smutty.horse/mhqycgpdihy.mp4
Rendering in progress, first draft copy coming in a few hours.
>>38759429Any chance I could get an answer on >>38757495? Or are we glossing over that?
>>38758721>social media is extremely low quality>the clip made in paint of fluttershy shitting and pissing is extremely low quality yet it's still approved>previous antithology had the grub time Lyra which was extremely low quality on purposeI think anon is extremely retarded
>>38758721The whole “XYZ is low quality and therefore must be excluded” argument can be applied to anything, but without justification it means fuck all. I’m on board with excluding drama and shitflinging, but Sensitive Content isn’t either of those things, so I’d like to hear someone articulate exactly why it’s being thrown out. Sure it’s simple, but it has a fair setup and a cute subversion of expectations. Throwing that away because someone’s not mature enough to handle Twitter’s UX design being on their screen for 15 seconds is pretty sad if you ask me.
>>38759535shitting and pissing mares are my fetish though so its ok
>>38759535Oh ok. Have fun with your barbie """anti"""thology then.
>>38759620Ah, that makes sense. Carry on then, OP.
>>38759620>scat-man anon shows his power level again
>>38759594Problem is: nothing that was excluded this time has anything to do with drama or else, it's just one or "more" anons being retarded and using piss-poor excuses such as "low quality"
>>38759681OP was just a dumbassInstead of reading>No EQG, anthro, or low effort shitflinging/drama/porn.The line should've read>No EQG, anthro, or low effort (shitflinging/drama/porn/etc).
>>38759688Or maybe next time write something like>No EQG, Anthro, Discord, Streamers, Shitflinging and Dramabecause apparently eveyone has his own point of view about what low effort is
>>38759688What, adding etc. on the end magically allows OP to exclude clips based on his own personal taste? No. This is a board project, and if OP vetoes a clip, he should be able to articulate his reasoning to people who ask him about it in good faith.
>>38759715I would say that so far he avoided to give an actual answer BUT i think it's because he's busy rendering the first draft
I wonder where all these shitters were in the two months between all those posts against including Sensitive Content and last thread's drama.
>>38759741fuck off, IEpone. go back to being dead.
>>38759741It's nearing release time. A certain other event happening this weekend happened to also get an uptick in dramafaggotry and shitflinging just this week.
>>38759791>"several people"And "several" people also countered their argument while some other people voiced their distaste for clips kept, so what's your point here
>>38759688Need to include g5 in that list.
>>38759791>ignoring the fact several posters are now voicing approval for the removed clipsPost numbers have nothing to do with this.The point is that the clip follows the rules and is a cute submission with a fair structure, and the guy cutting it together threw it out for no discernible reason. Maybe he was just trying to appease the thread, sure. But I want to hear his reasoning from his own mouth. He’s volunteering to be in charge of a board project and he should be able to stand behind and justify his decisions. Especially the ones with advocates on both sides of the issue.
>2 hours of poni video>2 threads of autistic screechingChristmas came early this year.
>>38759821>>38759791Look, at some point someone need to decide what's good and what's not.If there is a strong consensus then yeah it should probably be followed, but otherwise creative direction by committee always waste time and result in garbage.Also, the clips are all available to everyone: nothing's stopping you from making Antithology#2 "The Lost Episodes" or something if you really think your version would be better. Montage ain't that hard.
>>38759851the problem is twofold:nobody wants to get spoiled, and nobody wants the "wrong" version to be the one shown at /mlp/ con.
Hot take: if you put your name in your clip in any way, you are a faggot, no exceptions
>>38759876Does someone did that?
>>38759876I don't think that's a hot take.
I HATE DRAMAI HATE DRAMATALK ABOUT YOUR PLANS FOR THE PREMIERI WANNA HEAR ABOUT YOUR PLANS FOR THE PREMIERi'm making an entire fucking box of kraft mac & cheese and downing ludicrous amounts of milk- all while in the comfort of an oversized blanket hoodieit is a tradition of mine since the s4 premier to have this particular meal in this particular way and i've done it for every significant pony event since then
>>38759890I will be away from home for a long time so i'll probably just download the antithology 2 when i come back and watch it by myself. Or at least i hope the link will be available
>>38759871>nobody wants to get spoiledI'm curious (if anyone takes the time to go back and look) at people's opinions regarding what was included /excluded, after it airs. Wonder if there is a match or mismatch between the few who watched /voted on clips vs all anons
>>38759876This hasn't happened so far.
>>38759902>if anyone takes the time to go back and lookWe'll see in a year. Look at last year for comparison. It was extremely liked on premiere, with people giving it 11/10 but the course of a year over time most of these people realized that it wasn't quite *that* perfect. That's why we've had rules in the OP this year.
>>38759929for what it's worth, I liked the dramabait clips last year. they were funny, and felt like fair recompense for the last few godawful anthologies.now that everyone's got it out of their system, I feel future antithologies are gonna be much better.
>>38759429>2 hours ago>>38759792I don't recall any recent shitflinging in the con thread.
>>38759929>but the course of a year over timeThis is why you should reread your posts when you rephrase a sentence, kids.
>>38759936How long until we can start to panic?
>>38759914I have watched only a fraction of clips but I thought the lyra clip to be shown first had it, If that's not a name at the end then what is it
It's done and rendered, I swear, but it's also 6GB so it's taking a long time to upload. The video's current runtime stands at 01:13:52.I've never used cytube or pony.tube before - is this a practical filesize when I render the final thing? I think I could change my settings to try and get a smaller filesize for the finished video
>>38760020It is a name. Oh well.
>>38760065Very good! now answer the questions raised
>>38760065>>38760076Please don't. It's not helping anything and it'll fuel this pointless argument for 50 more posts.
>>38760065The last antithology was 2.3GiB, so it's in the same order of magnitude.Could you run ffprobe on it and post the output?
>>38760065It's better to upload it onto google drive and share it with us that way. If you just put it on ponytube right now you're probably gonna have to take it down again if we have some disagreements about some things.
>>38760081This is a board project. The guy who’s in charge should grow up and address the good faith concerns of the thread.
>>38760111>google drivegaymega.nz or bust
>>38760115With 6 GB you're going to have the download cap kicking in for some.
>>38760065pony.tube offers different resolutions but I don't know how helpful that'll be with the original being so big. Last antithology's 720p version is 1GB and it worked fine.
>>38760115gdrive allows people to watch it without downloading. For sharing one can use anonfiles.By the way, how come anonfiles is still ruinning (for free)? They let you dump GBs of data onto their server without ever deleting it.
>>38760117>he doesn't know how to bypass the download capanyways >>38760108 is right, we need to know more than just the filesize
>>38760065Final order list soon, please.
>>38760076I'm afraid I really don't know any more than you, I'm not OP and have no control over what the spreadsheet says.>>38760144Here you go: https://u.smutty.horse/mhvhtxjqomn.xlsxFFprobe info coming
>>38760126I think some third-party programs do that? Information was always unclear though so I haven't tried.
>>38760193>I'm not OP and have no control over what the spreadsheet says.You’re cutting the project together, right? Do you think the Sensitive Content clip is objectionable?
>>38760193>>38760251Or any of the "should be removed" clips at all
>>38760065The file size won't matter much if you put it on youtube. Ponytube re-encodes videos as well, so it shouldn't cause any serious issues. Worst case scenario, cytube jannies can embed one of the lower resolution entries into the stream come panel time.
>>38760265This doesn’t answer the question.
>>38760278Please do not use YouTube for the premiere. It will very likely block the embed or video in most of the world. Just use ponytube's 720p .mp4 link.
>>38760265What >>38760291 said. Also, I don't know how it was for the other anons but I avoided spoiling anything until this week when I watched specifically just the clips that were marked for discussion.
>>38760303I watched some and also watched those being discussed, so i can see why they are upset since apparently the one which edited the list decided to change from "being discussed" to "should be removed" without givin any information or explanation
>>38760251What's the name of the explicit one?
>>38760317Exactly. All I’m asking for is justification. I’m not satisfied just knowing that some shadowy entity quietly decided against it without providing a reason.
>>38760338IT'S LITERALLY CALLED "SENSITIVE CONTENT" YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
>>38760345I'm also not convinced at all. it's too convenient that only those which were mad at X were listened while everyone else was just ignored. then the list was updated and magically we are getting the video with a simple "hey i'm not in charge here" which i might understand but it could also be him pretending to not be OP so it's 50/50
>>38760352Are people seriously mad at this... because...who's Hattsy again? Some sort of Cunt?
>>38760366batsy's evil twin
>>38760376some anthrofag, probably the one who made that anthro clip last year
>>38760345>>38760359>shadowy entity>him pretending to not be OPMy dudes you need to slow down a bit. Berryflag editor is not OP. That much is obvious, unless you're thinking that they've been playing the long game all this time by talking in the thread. Likewise, there's no shadowy cabal running around. The clips were discussed, some anons had some strong opinions (both for and against the clips) and in the end someone had to make an executive decision. The OP did it which is perhaps for the best, given that literally no one had better qualifications to call the shots.>>38760366Hattsy isn't the reason why people are arguing for or against the clip.The issue (or "issue", depending on where you stand) is that this is literally just a twitter conversation which (again, according to a chunk of anons) has no place in the /mlp/ antithology.
>>38760385too bad the "strong opinions" where just them sperging for stupid shit with no real argument behind and OP just decided to listen to retards because he was afraid of... literally nothing, with the exception that OP let spergs win an argument which means in the future you can just sperg out for an entire thread if you don't like clip X and it will removed. so much for a collaborative project
>>38760385>The OP did it which is perhaps for the best, given that literally no one had better qualifications to call the shots.This. I said last thread that in the end either OP or the editor will need to make the choices themselves.
>>38760393The fact that you can't see the argument doesn't mean it's not there. I've seen valid points raised by both sides and if you can't do that then it means everyone who argued with you was just wasting their time.
The reason there was no written rule against social media shitposts is the same reason there was no written rule against Steven Universe clips. This is the /mlp/ Antithology, it should be a given this shit doesn't belong here.
>>38760411That's not how internet forum arguments work, anon.You're trying to convince people without a strong opinion.I was initially against any cutting and they convinced me.
>>38760418>This is the /mlp/ AntithologyDoes that mean we should throw out the clip that was based on Over the Garden Wall too, even though it made an /mlp/-appropriate joke?Just because something uses an outside source doesn’t automatically render it unusable.
Hello fellow English-speaking bronies. Would you help me with English since it's not my native language?
>>38760411>strong opinionsI've seen no strong opinion rather than "you can't post this because this is /mlp/ and social media doesn't belongs here because i'm upset." Even if all the clips about the media were just silly jokes. Only retards keeps screcching at something even when pointed out to calm down>>38760418>it should be a given this shit doesn't belong here.According to whom?The Antitholgoy is made for fun, it's a thing been written in every fucking OP.
>>38760429Spec, we're busy argumentating over here. Go ask your tardwranglers for English advice.
>>38760432nobody besides offboarders thinks twitter is "fun"
>>38760435B-but I don't even know what a spec or a tardwrangler is...
>>38760385>The OP did it which is perhaps for the best, given that literally no one had better qualifications to call the shots.If OP is unwilling to consider a reasonable counter argument and clearly articulate their decision making process, I’d argue he’s not qualified to be leadership of any kind.
>>38760385To be fair it wasn't a twitter conversation, it was just a joke about a post marked as "sensitive content" actually being harmless. If it stays out I'm fine with it, I'm personally neutral on it
>>38760446Most of the CLips removed where just silly things not really related to the social media itself, but apparently some anons let "social media" live so rent free in their head they become immune to logical thought
>>38760428tell me how "twatter made le ebin pornguy look like he posted porn but in reality it was just emote spam bait" is /mlp/ appropriate, or even constitutes a joke.
>>38760193Are we going to get a straight answer on >>38760251? What’s your take on the situation?
ITT: Anon spergs and fights tooth and nail about his low quality low effort twitter clip not being added, the thread
>>38760468Fucking this. Just stop with this nonsense holy shit.
>>38760467You're literally bringing that up for the fourth time in 150 posts. Calm the fuck down. No, the (You)s haven't been missed.Berryfag is choosing to stay out of this nonsense shitstorm and good for him.
>>38760468>he thinks only twitter anon is upsetTake a load of this retard
>>38760435It's not spec who needs a tardwrangler, it's half of this fucking thread. >>38759890 had the right idea.
>go through the final order list out of curiosity about when my clips are gonna play>notice someone made a "droop snoot" clipGod, I remember writing that down as an idea for this year but I never ended up doing it. Cheers anon, looks like the hivemind took care of it.
>>38760477You're right, it's unreasonable to expect the organizers of a community project to give a straightforward answer to the thread. They're much too busy to be a part of the conversation.
What if this whole thread is been screencapped and then added as the finale the the Antithology as a sort of 4D chess move
>>38759890I fucking love mac and cheese. I also agree with you.
>>38760524They don't even follow their own rules
>>38758735>By definition, yes (forums are social media, >>38758528 >>38756733, they are a place for social interaction where content can be shared and discussed).Don't be so fucking obtuse:>ackshually, anything that involves social interaction and sharing media is technically social mediais bullshit and you know it. What people mean by "social media" (regardless of any attempt to retroactively apply it to forums and imageboards) is not your definition, but a very specific kind of website where having personal profiles and blogging and interacting on your own personal page is the major component. Facezuck, Twatter (and if you want to go back in time, MySpace) are social media. Forums (where discussion takes place in threads on organised boards, not between individuals on their personal pages) and imageboards (where there are no user accounts or profiles) are absolutely NOT social media.
>>38760493Chill. He'll respond when he does. If he doesn't, then oh well — shit happens. This is a for fun anthology for the love of ponies, and constant bickering will not get you any further than you are now.I get what you mean, man, but seriously. Chill.
>>38760539>forums and image boards predate modern social media>you used to go to a forum or an image board to socialize with other people making it a social media>"forum and image boards are not social media, because social media is facebook/twitter/myspace"I found the supreme retard
Why did nobody get pissed over Ponytown.jpeg getting excluded? It's the same principle, "lol is just 4 fun" with an unfunny """joke""".
>>38760588Dude i'm literally defending all the excluded clips, yes even the discord one, yes even the streamer one etc, not only the twitter one like the other anon. Non of the excluded clips had a strong argument against them
>>38760547>He'll respond when he does.I'd appreciate it if he would. I can only speak for myself, but I'm confused at some of the organizer decisions here and I'd like to know why and how they were made.>If he doesn't, then oh well — shit happens.True, shit happens. And it's not like it's going to ruin my week or anything. But since it was brought up by >>38756674 almost a day ago, it looks to me like the organizers want to run and hide from their own controversial decision when the thread asks them why. That behaviour is problematic on a far deeper level than just decisions about clips alone.
>>38760562Not him, but 4chan and other forums are simply nothing like what we know by "social media". you are now arguing in bad faith and should be ignored.>>38760598lol thanks for letting me know I should just ignore your opinions
there's always a minimum standard for quality, even in a "just for fun" event. your garbage doesn't meet it, stop shitting up the thread and try harder next time.
>>38760615>none of the counter arguments had really strong motivations>lol i know i have to ignore your opinions now Go ahead, pull your head even deeper in your ass, maybe it will go all the way through and reach your shoulders soon or later. Have fun
>>38760478>ITT: two or three anons sperg about low quality low effort social media clips not being added, the threadfixed that for you
>>38760632You're just jelly your sis is hotter than you, Rarishit
I left for a day why the fuck is everyone in such a tizzy?
>>38760634Ah yes the "low quality low effort" argument which was already established being bullshit due to various accepted clips following the "low effort low quality" criteria.
>>38760645>>38760385After the arguments last thread, the OP decided to cut some clips that were based on discord/twitter/vidya streamers.
>>38760646They should not have been accepted either
>>38760646there may have been lower-effort submissions, but these social media clips are the lowest quality the antithology has ever seen. and yes, I am including last year's twitter clips.
>>38760646I don't need to provide scientific evidence about the quality of those clips or why they are barely pony related. They are simply disliked. Try making something worthwhile next year instead
Can you even reach a consensus on an anonymous image board?
>>38760658NTA but it was obvious some clips will be cut, no? That's why they were marked with large red DISCUSSION warning in the doc>>38760668It does happen sometimes. But if it doesn't happen, someone needs to step up and decide.
>>38759890I'm staying inside the whole weekend, watching it with friends and maybe I'll also make some popcorn and high quality sweets for me to enjoy
>>38760666Have you contributed with anything at all? i don't think so. even if you will come out and say "achktually i did all these things, will probably just be clips of ponies and music"
>>38760678>Be OP>Mark clip as DISCUSSION>Decide you don't like it>Mark as EXCLUDED>Ignore the anons in the thread asking whyGentlemen, our leadership.
>>38760698nigga, do you really think the people who invested their time into this project are gonna be more accepting of you shitting it up?
>>38760699We should change op for next year, someone less of a coward
>>38760699>>38760704>>38760705Please just stop.
My opinion on the "Sensitive Content" clip is that it could use some tightening up, it kinda wastes time and could deliver the same message far more quickly.>>38760539You might mean social network instead of social media. Twitter doesn't even really fit your definition, it's a microblogging site that barely has personal profiles to curate. Also don't be so fucking obtuse yourself, I made this very distinction in my own post, but obviously any medium that involves social interaction is a social medium, it's kind of in the words. Forums and imageboards aren't "modern" social media, but they're still social media, just because they predate the term doesn't somehow exclude them from being encompassed by it.
>>38760704NTA but i made some clips for this year, hand-drawn. I came here and watched the whole discussion evolve since last thread. But when i see someone say "next time make something worth the effort" this might actually rustle my jimmies because usually this line is made by pretentious cunts which only want "high quality" and put nothing on the plate. I like silly ideas and i don't give a fuck about how they are proposed but don't shit on other people's work just because you dislike how they are presented
>>38760193>FFprobe info incoming
>>38760710>OP is on my side>just let him get away with riggingFuck off you sperg.
wew, here's a first draft of the final thing. Huge spoiler warning of course, though GDrive is still processing it apparently so it's not loading in browser (for me at least). Mostly I just want to assure you all it actually exists: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m-srVNLBSP2vpSWInvtxKBGoEnhLGU8q/viewThere are still a couple of audio balancing steps to go, but visually I'd submit this as the final product (obviously without the abrupt ending).>>38760753sorry for the wait kingoutput with no commands in picrel, hopefully it's helpful. I don't know much about the hosting side of things - would making the video filesize smaller be better, or does it not really matter? If anyone has tips on reducing the filesize without (human-perceivable) quality loss I'd love to hear them, and I'd be happy to provide more specific ffprobe outputs.Also, would providing a separate 720p render be useful, or will it just be automatically downscaled?
>>38760744I like silly ideas, hell, I made a bunch of silly clips. What I don't like is unfunny twitterfagging, and I especially don't like it in the projects I work on.
>>38760765So everything else which was excluded is fine to you?
>>38760763>bitrate 12162 kb/sThat's too damn high. Last year's antithology clocked in under 5000, and it still looked good.
>>38760763Not sure if you noticed but >>38760602 is asking you a question
>>38760763Holy shit 6.3 GB
>>38760773Not that guy but yeah, I'd say so. If I were calling the shot I'd also exclude Flutterpush because it's neither funny nor interesting, just a low quality shock shitpost. The rest of the choices I either agree with or don't care either way.
>>38760773I have no more love for discordfagging or eceleb faggotry than I do for twitterfagging.
>>38760790We did call the shots but apparently is not a collaboration, you just give the clips and they do what the fuck they want and avoid to give answers
>>38760763is there any particular reason you're exporting this in 29.97 fps and not 30 fps?
>>38760763I'm probably just gonna wait for the video to process and view it through drive, it'd probably be faster than downloading it.
>>38760773>>38760790 (me)Shit I'm blind. Meant to say that all current cuts were correct.>>38760800We've been over this. Someone needs to make the choice in the end.
>>38760698I actually did, it was a big effort for me and a learning experience and I'm proud how it turned out.I have nothing against short or silly clips, hell, I'm even neutral about the "sensitive content clip". What I'm not ok with is people shitting the thread because these clips got excluded. they were controversial and their exclusion is not a big loss even for the creators since they were so low effort. Look at the shitshow that was created just because of those clips. This alone should qualify them for exclusion.
>>38760393>in the future you can just sperg out for an entire thread if you don't like clip X and it will removed.So next year if I really don't like a particular clip, if I I samefag I can get it removed. I have to wonder if that happened this year. There were several removals not just the twitter one
>>38760814Ah yes "Low Effort". i recall when my clip was called "Low Effort" because an anon thought it was just screens of the show + sound and i had to show him the sketches to proof they were hand drawn. So to me these two words together lost a lot of meaning when used here, which boy, i see them tossed around a lot
>>38760763>If anyone has tips on reducing the filesize without (human-perceivable) quality lossRender on veryslow ^:)>>38760805Because that's the framerate requested in the OP.
>>38760814>shitting the thread because these clips got excluded>>38760602 here, I'm just speaking for myself but I'm not concerned about the clip exclusion as much as I am troubled by the organizers complete lack of interest in justifying their decisions or communicating with the thread when asked.>Look at the shitshow that was created just because of those clips. This alone should qualify them for exclusion.This kind of thinking allows anyone to get clips excluded simply by creating a shitshow in the thread. We can not and should not reward that behaviour.
>>38760828>So next year if I really don't like a particular clip, if I I samefag I can get it removed.
>>38760853It's what i am also trying to say but the only answer i get is "hurrr social media le bad"
>>38760501lol banned from youtube
>>38760838>one anon missed that the art was hand drawn>therefore we should ignore quality completelyHe was being blind but this is not a good argument.>>38760853>>38760857This is not true either, if someone starts starting up drama about a good clip, he'll be ridiculed and ignored. You're assuming worst case scenario coupled with malice AND incompetence. If you're willing to go down that road, literally nothing could be made because someone with enough time could always find a way to sabotage the project./mlp/ is actually pretty good about board projects. If something causes thread's outrage, it's usually because that thing in question is shit, not because someone is trolling the project.
>>38760763You know you could cut the filesize down by a fifth just by dropping down to 23.976 FPS, right?
>>38760874Is it allowed to say NIGGER on this website?
>>38760877Video file size depends on the bitrate, not the framerate. It could run at 23.976fps and 12mpbs, it'll still end up with the same size.
>>38760874>>38760881Lurk moarIn theory it's sorta against the rules but it's very hard to get banned for saying nigger on /mlp/. I've seen some exceedingly rare cases of that happening but first someone needs to report you and then you need to get really, really unlucky with the janny who reviews the report.
>>38760875Look, if one of your clips gets called "low effort", you to show all the effort you made and then you see the same words tossed everywhere with ease, you start to have some concerns
>>38760888...and all other things staying equal, a lower framerate leads to a lower bitrate, numbnuts.
>>38760891That was clearly an accident. An accident that you (thankfully) quickly cleared up and iirc the other anon acknowledged his mistake.You can think of that as a compliment, even. It was high quality enough for him to confuse it with "real" pics.
>>38760838Be fair, screencaps of websites take little effort to make>>38760853>This kind of thinking allows anyone to get clips excluded simply by creating a shitshow in the threadI admit this is a fair point. I don't see much reason to exclude "sensitive content". In the other hand, the streamer clip should stay out, it is barely pony related and the only reason it was even posted is because the person who posted it liked that e-celeb. It is irrelevant for anyone who doesn't watch that particular e-celeb reaction streamer, and it was not well received.
>>38760918If we're going by reception, Sensitive Content should be out as well.
>>38760763Since you're using Vegas if I remember right, you probably have limited export options. What I'd say to do is export from Vegas at a high bitrate and then encode with another tool. My personal recommendation for encode settings is x264, CRF 21, and preset veryfast. Should give good quality at a reasonable filesize. Can use ffmpeg or if you want a gui and you're on Windows, can use Staxrip. An ffmpeg input would look something like:ffmpeg -i "video.mp4" -c:v libx264 -crf 21 -preset veryfast -c:a copy "video.mkv"Can also tack on -threads [insert number of threads you have] if you want, I think ffmpeg is supposed to do the maximum by default.
>>38760898Depends. If video is encoded with CRF then file size will vary, but if it's constant bitrate then the file size won't really shrink because it's a constant amount of data to be transported per second.
>>38760905I know but as this anon is pointing out >>38760853 the problem is not "low effort" per se, but the fact that apparently we have no real communication from the organizers. and if i see the organizers going into "panic" or full "ignore evithing and cut whatever" that's not a good sign. I mean okay my clips made it in the end but still>>38760918Well, technically editing clips and adding music is also easy, no? i learned it this year and at first i was worried it was something super complicated and instead is just "grab file+slap it in the timeline"
>>38760918The anon which made the clip said he made it because apparently the streamer doesn't like bronies but admitted that fapping to pony porn ain't that bad
>>38760940Nah, we have communication from the organizers. They're the "anons" reminding us to trust the organizers and not ask questions.
>>38760943if you have to explain your joke, it's not funny.
>>38760947Subtle jokes are not for everyone, my dear friend
>>38760945But nobody said so.... i'm scared, anon
>>38760940The lack of communication from the OP could be an issue if he were to do that but this year vast majority of the clips marked for discussion made it in, only a few ended up being cut. If that does happen, I'll be the first to call it out next year.>>38760945That would make no sense for him to do, posting as OP would be far more assertive than posting as Anon. Unless you're iplying he's also samefagging as everyone not on your side.>>38760954>subtle joke>joke relies on knowing some random apparently highly popular mainstream video game streamerThis is /mlp/, sir.
>>38760924It is absolutely true that it was not well received. But if we take it into consideration the reasons it was rejected, one has stronger reasons. I'm talking about compromise>>38760940The argument was never about just how hard it was. It is also a question about reception and relevance. Some of the funniest and loved clips are the simple edits.>>38760943fuck reaction streamers
>>38760777>>38760781Thought so, thank you. I'll rerender at a much lower bitrate and hopefully spare your internet and my hard drive tomorrow.>>38760925>>38760937I'll give it a shot and upload a smaller video. Honestly this still isn't the final thing so a bit of visual quality loss won't hurt, getting a review of the flow of the project is more important.>>3876080529.97 seems to be the default still on a lot of software (it is on mine), even if it's becoming outmoded. The instructions in the OP recommended 29.97 because of this, and a lot of submissions are in 29.97. I felt it best to stick with this framerate even if 30 is available.
>>38760881NIGGER is fine.Double-nigger however, will get you banned instant-
>NO NO NO YOU HAVE TO LET ME BRING TWITTER DRAMA TO THE ANTITHOLOGY. I NEED TO NAMEDROP ECELEBS PLEASE YOU CANT DO THIS TO METhis is you. This is how you sound right now
Organizers who communicate are faggots. Having to explain yourself is unbased.Real based organizers just observe and make decisions based on that. Good on you, organizers
>>38760973You mean the drama made by anons in the thread? because none of the cllips was about drama, you drongo
>>38760971Will we get a version without g5?
This argument seems to be attracting shitposters, I swear.
>>38760985Only if you start screeching about g5 clips being low effort and that everyone hates g5, but you need a lot of samefagging or a couple of other retards. then yes
>>38760981I dunno, that orchestral buildup to the reveal of Rainbowshine was pretty dramatic.
>>38760973I agree with the general message but dear Celestia, the>I'LL STRAWMAN THEIR POSTS WITHOUT A (YOU)has never been a good way to argue anything. And yes the other side of the argument did this too but pointing it out during the discourse would come off as excessively petty.>>38760998This is even worse, however.
>>38760998I just want a version without g5, I don't really care about the other drama.
>>38761007well you have your answer, so go ahead
>both my submissions made it inI love you editor-sama.
>>38760805Prehistoryfags pulling a tantrum if you don't support their obsolete format.
Hot Take: The one taking the calls was the one which made the Discord, Twitter and Streamer Clips, but was called out every time. so he decided to give no answer because he was afraid of revealing his powerlevel
Here's a smaller, reencoded (thanks again! >>38760925) version which hopefully should be processed sooner. Has a bit of quality loss but it's a much nicer 2GB. The final render should be roughly this size too. Spoiler warning again:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBCo8nXvicXsfyvUm_wtFC80Lm9QVQOH/view>>38761215I think you're assigning too much weight to my opinion. I'm not organizing much beyond the order of the submissions, and I didn't make any decisions as to which clips to exclude - and honestly, I don't think I should be making those decisions.Imagine you're OP. You don't know me, and this whole thing is running on trust. If I was wading into an argument to put clips back in or implying I might even put them in without asking a few days before the deadline, you wouldn't know for sure how the antithology would look until it was too late to change it. The discussion over these clips was written on the spreadsheet, and was publicly viewable. Whether you believe the "discussion" was mostly samefagging or not, at least it was out in the open. Everyone knowing that I'm going to follow the spreadsheet instructions exactly is about the closest you can get to oversight on an anonymous image board, because at least it's reliable.I could have participated in the original discussion about these submissions, but once the clips are clearly marked as "do not include", I'm not going to include them. The antithology cannot happen if the OP and the editor are at war with each other, especially as we have no way of contacting each other except for these threads. This close to the end, whether I came out and declared that Sensitive Content is my favorite submission of the year or my least favorite, the result would be the same: unnecessary stress.Basically, this is a long way of saying I'm sorry but I can't give my opinion on excluded clips as the editor. What I want most is for this video to premiere on time so we can all come together as a board and watch some horses.I was impressed OP managed to get this to work last year, and has gone on to do it again - even with some drama. It's going pretty well for our second time round, I think. Next year needs to open with a proper rules discussion, we always end up having these arguments far too late.>>38761140I can provide one after the main thing is done, but the premiere's going to contain (a very small amount of) G5. For the premiere, look away at: 00:19:13, 00:22:32, 00:59:47, and 00:36:23 until the coughing stops.
>>38760763Alright watched the whole thing and here are my thoughts and stuff I noticed: >first third seems a tad bit unbalanced in the order of submission types but I can't put my finger on anything specific, it might just be me >both My Little Gurren Laggan clips should bookend the My Little CCP parody as there's another clip shoved in there before the second MLGL clip plays, Queen of White Lies I believe >Flutterborea Schizo post is too quiet and needs the volume raised a tad>Shadow Colts is too loud and needs the volume lowered a tad bitOther than that this is a great job. It balances out and everything feels like where it needs to be. The ending was great to, I'd even say it's up there with the Joshua Graham ending from last year. And I assume you're still making the credits since there's been a ton more submissions from these last few months. I can't wait to see the premiere, it felt so fucking crazy to me how over 300 people actually watched what we made, hell even one of my submissions got one of if not the biggest chat reaction and I was riding on that high for about a week. It's amazing to keep doing stuff like this even when the glory days of the fandom are long gone, and I'll keep doing it until our board is dead and gone. I'm proud of every single one of (you).
>>38761392>The final render should be roughly this size too. Are you going to re-encode the final render with ffmpeg? If so, you should replace the commandline part in >>38760925:>-preset veryfastto at least>-preset normalin order to avoid substantial quality loss. Other better but more time-consuming presets are "slow", "very slow" and "placebo", that the slower they become the less noticeable the loss. I won't enter into much detail, but among the many parameters they affect the most important are "psy-rd" that distorts picture in motion to compensate for quality loss and "deblock" that may give the video a pixelated look if encoded at a fast preset.
>>38761392Thanks for the explanation. That provides some valuable insight into why you'd rather not pick a side, and I can honestly say that I understand where you're coming from. I can respect that.The question remains, though, is there no way to appeal to OP if one feels that his decision was unfair or hasty? It's late in the game for sure, but based on my reading of the threads I'd say that (shitposts notwithstanding) the argument for Sensitive Content's inclusion is reasonable. And I'd really like to hear details on why OP disagrees, especially since I tend to approve of all his other choices. Crucially, if OP can't justify it or simply hides from the thread whenever someone asks about his decisions, why should we care what he wants the Antithology to look like in the first place?Also, I'm sure it makes no difference but I'd like to denounce the shitposting surrounding this issue. As fun as exaggerated drama can be, I'm trying to get some genuine answers without stooping to that level. Like >>38756728 said, I just hate seeing a perfectly good sunbeam mare moment cast out into the reject bin.Anyway, thank you again for your time and effort here, I'm excited to see the final product.
>>38761494>change veryfast to normalWhile this will help reduce filesize, as far as I'm aware the preset really shouldn't have much if any impact on quality.
>>38761494Get your head straight, mang. We're using CRF, not CBR.
>>38761580>>38761607https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/25008There is a visible difference between each preset. In fact, there's more to x264 encoding than just selecting CRF.And my mistake, it's not "normal" but "medium".
>>38761777It's subtle, but I guess there is a slight difference. In any case I think the editor would be better served by lowering the CRF to something like 18 if he were after higher quality (at the expense of filesize of course). I'm not against the slower presets, they are better, we just don't know what sort of hardware the editor is working with and how long his encode times are.
Cleaned version without g5 based on timestamps given in >>38761392:https://mega.nz/file/Yf8GQSrL#0pnPLz4-nhSZvzqrOtxiK0Ci6QA1zewFKO5ILXGhrmw
>>38761777>>38762133I'm unfamiliar with vegas, but I remember learning that using 2 pass encoding should almost always be your goal regardless of bit rate settings, to correct pixel rendering errors and the like. Is that a possible setting for him to use to maintain quality with a lowered bit rate?>>38760490Got your back ponybro, hopefully you like it!
>>38760925Vegas has anything but limited export options. Please refrain from giving advice if you don't know what you're talking about. The specific encoder has some impact on what's available, but generally speaking you can puke out anything from 12.5fps to 59.94 in most codecs, or set an exact number in others like a flat 60. Likewise, bitrate is very customizable. If you're using any of the AVC or HEVC export options, you can set exact bitrates or from a useful dropdown. Adding FFMPEG to the end is just going to fuck things. You're working with footage that's already encoded (it's safe to assume people aren't sending raw uncompressed AVI and WAV files to the editor), encoding it in vegas, and youtube/ponytube/etc. add a third layer of transcoding already. That's already three layers of compression, and you're suggesting adding a fourth into the mix. That's significant quality degradation for no benefit. The original source files I guarantee aren't 100mb/s+ in bitrate, so ultimately this is crunching already crunched video further.
>>38763372I'm coming from Premier which didn't even have an option for CRF (or x265) export. While I agree that it's not the most ideal to have to do another encoding pass, as long as the export bitrate from the video editor is fairly high the quality loss should be minimal. Of course it would be better to be able to export as you'd like directly from the editor but that's not always possible. I don't know the specifics of what Vegas can export to, but he was asking for a way to shrink the filesize of the produced video.
Any update on those credits?
>>38764333If the credits anon isn't available in time, you could just screenshot the spreadsheet and paste it at the end as a last result.
>>38764333About to finish a version based on >>38760193. I suppose you're not going with >>38761483's second suggestion? I could easily edit it.
>>38764355No, it's a close thing but I prefer the order listed in >>38760193
>>38764454Anon... that was a day ago. You are raging over old bread. This ain't a big deal now, mate.
>>38764454Are you mad at the people yelling to remove submissions or those who wanted them included?
>>38761392You used the wrong audio for the transition, the .wav in the list and audio in the .mp4 are different, you should use the wav.I see some small letterboxing on both sides. Is that gdrive, my browser, or the video?
>>38764333Alright, here they are. Uploading to catbox because smutty is being very slow right now: https://files.catbox.moe/yyed59.mp4You should experiment with leaving some empty space between this and Mare Museum.Had to fix a mistake in >>38764910 but also undid the audio normalization, I suppose it will be better if you do that. Tell me if it's not.
>>38764970That image makes me irrationally angry.
So how's the editing going on the final version?
>>38764910Thanks so much anon, these look fantastic. Sorry for giving you the order list later than I said I would>>38764789If you mean during the transition clip, there's no letterboxing, probably the browser. You want no beep and just static for the transition? Right now I'm using both, with the static louder. There's still time to silence all the beeps but it sounds fine to me>>38765520With a bit more editing, rendering and upload time I'd say 5 hours AT MOST until it's on Gdrive and downloadable.
>>38766024First (you) for >>38764970, thanks again
U NIGGERS DIDNT PUT MY KINO IN FUCK YOUI https://u.smutty.horse/mhthhwgqdfc.mp4
>>38766078I will make sure op is black listed from next con if this isnt put in i know my peeps
>>38766081will set you on fire
>>38766084U will die op, and its ur fault
>>38766104And u will cope, and sneed if you dont put the pony life clip in, you wont be allowed back next year and you will cry and shit and mald and it will be 1000000000000000000% op's fault for this fucking blunder
>>38766024>You want no beep and just static for the transitionYeah, hopefully it's not too late for that.
>>38766507It's not, no worries - I've got ~5mins left on the no-beep upload
>>38766512Or not, apparently I'm just short of storage and it's cancelled the upload.I'll make space and retry (~1h30 upload time expected). This version is absolutely complete except it has beeps on the transition, provided just in case you can't afford to wait: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XbbMWwG0YvhVHjIm0MuNEiEfnJR7gH5e/view?usp=sharingHow much time do you need to download and set everything up for the stream OP? Obviously the sooner you can get the file the better
>>38766541>I'll make space and retryIf it's the final version you might as well just upload it to pony.tube.
>>38766553Isn't there a daily upload quota of 2GB on pony.tube? The video will be larger than that
>>38766574Yes but it can be increased. The admin is organizing the con so if you post your account there and ask he'll probably see it, or I can email him.
>>38766596Let's try both, I'm @berryenjoyer (https://pony.tube/accounts/berryenjoyer). I'll ask in the thread too
Worst case scenario you could cut it in half and upload both parts to Dailymotion, only for the premiere ^:)https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/37055391/#37091327
>>38764454Completely agree. Fuck the shitposters, OP should be allowed to mold the Antithology to his own personal taste with absolutely no accountability to the threads. After all, he can edit the almighty spreadsheet so it makes sense for him to hide away and still retain complete control over the whole project.
My god it actually loaded. Here's the final thing, no beeps and all: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jX7mNVvV7MbaAb0u9IISRi1IxQ-R5qOV/view?usp=sharingDo you have time to download and then upload it yourself?
>>38766897Here it is, https://pony.tube/videos/watch/424cb6cd-52df-4203-b222-43eae5efb86dThere's no 720p version for some reason, asked Twifag about it but no reply yet. I think they got rid of that some time ago actually so the ponytube embed will likely be used.
>>38766991Excellent, just glad we got it ready before the start! Sorry about the last minute headache, and see you at the premiere
>>38766991>>38767011Good work and thanks for working on it right up to the deadline! Can't wait to see all our work together.
No G5 version:https://mega.nz/file/VGdHzLpD#PYkpXCbhxfleRwDd-KMf-wO_efntCuNmnb-VYAauUgY
You fags did good. All of you.
>>38767186>>38767201I'm not the anon who asked for it but thanks.
>>38756687Oh g5 was allowed in? Then I probably won't be watching it.
>>38767208See >>38767186, I'm not the editor but the total G5 footage adds up to less than a minute out of ~75 minutes total.Also this anti is fucking gold.
>>38766541>>38766833Is the difference between these two just the audio track?Is the last one the "canonical" one?Just wondering if I should mux the video from the larger one with the audio from the last one posted as my source file for the pinkhorse cdn encode.
>>38767208As someone who hates the fucking dogs, the g% in it is TINY, and actually insulting g%
>>38767216It would be better without any g5 at all.
>>38767218Its fucking amazing, don't be a dumbfuck absolutist. Listen to your fellow anons
>>38767220There are other Anons who dislike g5 too.
>>38767227Jesus christ, its less than a minute of g5 and one of the clip outright insults itYou really are a retard
>>38767227NTA and I really strongly dislike G5, too.The antithology is still a 10/10 even with it in. Would it be better off without it? Maybe but honestly this little barely makes a difference. It's not like Jhaller's last anthology which was 1/3 eqg and 1/3 g5.
>>38767230Any amount of g5 is bad. Why would you want a stain on an otherwise great antithology?
>>38767234Just kill yourself then.
>>38767234>Any amount of g5 is bad.yes>Why would you want a stain on an otherwise great antithology?Arguing over its removal would do more harm than the 55s of g5-related clips could do.
good shit even tho mine wasnt added, op will be dead soon
>>38767239>Arguing over its removal would do more harm than the 55s of g5-related clips could do.Some people would probably say the same about eqg and anthro, yet none of that should be allowed in either.
YT upload when? YT fags might have an issue with the swastikas and all the "nigger" but the /mlp/ redub is still up despite "fuck trannies" so who knows.
good job everyone, that was fun. What was you guy's favorite? Mine was probably landing sequence, though pretty much all of them were very solid
Why do people even argue with posts like this >>38767208 ? If they want to be a stubborn autists just let them
>>38767246Are you serious, or are you just trying to prove a point? You type way too formally.
>>38767251Anyone is free to upload it, just don't be a little nigger and claim you made it or something like that.Reposting the ponytube link (download available)https://pony.tube/videos/watch/424cb6cd-52df-4203-b222-43eae5efb86dhttps://pony.tube/videos/watch/424cb6cd-52df-4203-b222-43eae5efb86dhttps://pony.tube/videos/watch/424cb6cd-52df-4203-b222-43eae5efb86d
>>38767251https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5ekAGtNgcII'll upload the 1080 when it's done downloading
>>38767280Probably wanna title it “/mlp/: the antithology 2.0” in keeping with the first one
>>38767260I am very serious. That's why I posted the no G5 version. We got rid of the anthro and eqg clips from last year, so why can't we do the same with G5?
>>38767246That's fair and something to consider for next year but it wasn't in the rules and the thread hardly needed more drama. Besides, if I didn't miss the first few threads I'd argue for anti-G5 rule myself, too. Especially if G5 gains any popularity until then.>>38767258NTA but these 'stubborn autists' are still fellow Anons and it'd suck if they missed out on something this good.
>>38767285Nah, it was suggested it be changed to 2022.
>>38767255>What was you guy's favorite?The one I made, but that's not fair. The Chinese "dub" was definitely a standout.
>>38767280fucking google niggers deleted it, gonna try to reup
>>38767304>too longSince when was that not allowed?
>>38767281Because the vast majority of people were able to enjoy the antithology to the fullest, despite the 2 or 3 G5 clips in it.>We got rid of the anthro and g5 clips from last year,What? The G5 shit hadn't even aired when the last antithology was made.
The video shown was made by rendering a 12mbps VBR file, and then using ffmpeg to reencode it with -crf 18 to get the smaller filesize. I know this is a kind of an inelegant way to do it - would it help if I provided a nicer rerender with specific bitrate settings for the main YouTube upload?
>>38767308You need an account with a verified phone number to upload over 15 minutes, iirc.
>>38767309There were some G5 clips made with what little content there was available, I don't recall a g5-less edit.
>>38767314Well, yes. Probably added to prevent people who post shows and movies much easier from re-uploading easily.
>>38767308I had to give the jew my phone number1080p no g5 mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoCbRPz-jK81080p full version is almost done downloading, i'll up it in a few
>>38767326Full version: https://youtu.be/6pJCfvZdg6AIt'll take a while for them to process
>>38767326PonyTube mirror of no g5 version:https://pony.tube/videos/watch/f973fe05-fbc3-4698-954b-9e0117649031
>>38767310Hey, I'm looking for the highest quality source you can provide, for the anniversary stream CDN.
>>38767346If you know the optimal settings for videos distributed over CDN, I'd be happy to render a new copy of this year's antithology at any quality you want. I don't upload much online so I'm not familiar with which bitrates etc. work best for streaming/hosting there. The original video I reduced in quality to make the version you saw on the stream today was 6GB with variable bit rate, which I think is unoptimal for CDNs, but I'd be very happy to share that too if you'd like.
>>38767411Yes, that would be perfect. The cdn does it's own transcoding and segmenting to achieve what is optimal for streaming, so the idea is to feed it the purest source possible. I regularly feed it raw bluray rips which are 50GB.
>>38767255>Mine was probably landing sequenceWhich one was that?>H8WH8
>>38767459Gotcha, I'll upload the meatiest render I can host
>>38767538nostalgia critic one with AJ, towards the beginning
Awww men, i missed it!
Well that was fun. Hopefully I can learn how to shit out something for the next one.
Will there be a chat version?
>>38767728I caught the last 15 minutes. Still a bummer, lets hope we catch next years.
>>38767753Lets hope for 10 more years
>>38767255Tossup between the AVGN one and the one of Rat desperately trying to fry all his filly porn before the Feds beat the door in.
>>38767545Awesome. I won't be able to check back on the thread again for a few hours, need a nap. But I'll check for the link and grab the file as soon as I wake up, and then I'll rehost host it for any anons who want it. So you can free up that gdrive space asap (presuming thats where you're gonna put it)
>>38767836No worries! With my shit internet speeds it might be more than a few hours before the link is ready, but I'll keep the thread alive and give another (you) once it's done.
>That monthy python parody introPerfect.Also guarantee to trigger that one autist who hate snow ponies.
>tfw completely missed when this was happening againFUCK
>>38767752I second this question
>>38767836Here's the high quality render: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c5RuSX17Ln97JoO9oJ-nkNNr3LWE57sU/viewLet me know when you've got it downloaded
>>38769105Mares acquired. You may reclaim your gdrive space now. As soon as I have a CDN manifest for the cytube streamable version, I'll provide links to that and the raw master. It's encoding now.
I request a link to the first antithology in the high filesize format, please.
>>38769952https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/37055391/#q37105813There's an audio fix posted later in the thread, but it doesn't seem it was used in the final render.
>>38769952>>38770005The audio fix WAS used in the first airing, here it is:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ytiP-3EnDiFLaIr575ImnINrHnzywL7S/view
I got so caught up with real life that I totally missed it. I didn't even know there was an /mlp/con going on. I've been a terrible Anon. Damn it all to hell.
Just for reference, when are we doing this again next year. I had been waiting again for this year but it slipped by me somehow. Is it just basically the 1st of June?
>>38770141>>38770045whenever the thread votes on it
>>38770141There will be a thread deciding the date and everything. These projects usually go for a couple months so just check the board every once in a while.
>>38769487>>38769105Here are the links:CyTube streamable manifest: https://media.xaekai.net/universe/902c811bbae843fb9cd2331eb4c13114/manifest.jsonThe original master file: https://resources.pink.horse/webm/antithology2022.master.mp4>>38769952The one with with the high bitrate video stream is linked above, the master file. I can't comment on the other anons mention of a later fixed audio stream (>>38770016) but if that's the case I can mux it in to the master file above in just a few minutes after OP clarifies the issue. (I just need the fixed audio stream that matches the video)
https://mega.nz/file/FNYljagY#GdRicIJKVHF9j4nI2qfwv1q0SmPiR-iXad0gL1dOnQUwell, i did a re-encode of the antithology with staxripi did sperg about video encoding before, precisely with mlp episodes...i will be encoding the first antithology later and come with a link
Thanks for the amazing Antithology. I haven't laughed this much in years. You contributors truly understand the "spirit" of pony like nobody else, I don't think any other community can reach you the water
>>38770141This year the threads started in April, last year was the same. Worked well enough except for the very late final render. There should be a planning thread months before that where changing the date could be discussed.
>>38771021>Three whole months and I still missed the threadsWell now I'm extra salty with myself.
Now that the whole thing's been out, minimal cutting has been the correct approach. I don't mind the UOOOH slideshow. It fits in nicely with the other fillyfag clips. All four Ponk rolling clips don't get repetitive, either.Flutterpush is probably the only thing that should've been cut and wasn't.
>>38771025>not calling that pic 'tWHYlight.png'
>>38771941Minimal cutting is good, yeah. This is an /mlp/ project-- you have to accept the mediocre to have the amazing.
>>38772360I agree in principle but Anthology-style videos however need to keep good pace lest they crash and burn like the later jhaller's anthologies. Trimming the length of individual clips was a great move, as was setting some basic rules in the OP.
Is there an upload with the chat reaction yet?
>>38772682The guy uploading it says it'll be up "Soon (tm)", see >>38772675.
>>38772682Nevermind, >>38772691 posted a cytube replay right now.
>>38772696Sweet, thanks. My internet started goofing with my right when mine came on and I didn't get the full chat experience.
>>38770681https://mega.nz/folder/ocpAHJhT#_Ze1q5r5XXuKjmL7zaYUaAhere are the 2 antithologiesLess than 1 gb each and without apparent quality loss in MKV format
>>38773221Both now in .mp4
was watching the antithology and then saw the scat and piss one, holy shit fucking die whoever curated this and decided that was to be included.
>>38773221thanksthe original is named 2022 for some reason
Hypothetically speaking, if I had rammed out a candidate for next years' opening credits in the last 48 hours, would anyone like to see it, or is that jumping the gun way too hard?
>>38773603I mean, sure I'd take a look at it. But I do think it would probably be a bit early now.
>>38773314It was fine.
>>38773603that's not jumping the gun, that's launching yourself into orbit over the gun.
>>38771941>>38773314Missing one bad clips is still pretty good, considering how much shitposting deleting anything was causing.
>>38773314as a flutterfag I took more offense to the clip right before it ending with filly flutter getting splattered on the ground
>>38774312offense might be too strong of a word but nobody likes seeing their waifu get hurtand if they do then they don't deserve her
>>38774316>their waifuAre you sure she is *your* waifu Anon, really sure?
>>38774410NTA, not even a Flutterfag but fuck off, faggot.
>>38756634one video that I was told wouldn't be making in but somehow got sneaked in, so it's all good. I promise I will make something more decent by the next year antithology.
>>38774415>ponkfag coming to flutterfag's rescueGuess you guys are united by the same bonds.
>>38774418No one cares about your fanfiction, haber.>ponkfagAnd another miss. I dislike all shitposters equally, darling.
>>38756623Okay I gotta ask, how the fuck did someone do the Chacha one so well?I don't think the lyricless version of smile HD is still around and the guy even integrated the lyric to the grab and slam of flutters, pretty neat.
>>38774570The original .SWF is still on the Internet. Could've used a flash decompiler and edited it.
>>38774605That makes sense. Didn't know it was a flash originally.
Absolute kino, this antithology is. No dumb topical drama, just quality shitposts.>>38774410>redditjakGet out.
>>38774418>rhyming 'kid' with 'smile' when the word 'child' existsONE.JOB.
exclusions vs inclusionsthe ankha one was boring and low quality but got in fine, no comments on the spreadsheetsensitive content and ponytown were short and had more content and editing in them but were excluded, because a couple (one guy maybe) threw a fit over them?the thanos one made me laugh but same storythe one where Jordan Peterson is talking about linky was fine too but wasn't put in, no comments why
>>38775907>>38776738Any point in bumping the thread further? The anti's done, the con is over and I imagine everyone who wanted to see it already did so.
>>38776748A friend asked me to do it just in case, I don't think it's necessary, but I don't lose anything by doing it.That was my last bump anyway.
>>38776748I wanna see that gunjumper's opening credits
Goodnight /antithology/See you next year
Pretty much every clip was great this year, good work friends.>>38757189>p filesDude this one was fantastic! Super true to the original opening with the hoofprint and everything, you should be proud of it!>>38759164this one got a kek out of me, not shitty>>38771941>minimal cutting has been the correct approachI agree with this for next time.Looking forward to working together on next years already.
>>38777239thank you :)
>>38777239glad i made you kek, hopefully next year i'll make things that actually take effort
How the fuck did you people manage to make an entire second antithology under my nose? If I hadn't come on today I would never have seen it
I changed my mind. AVGN and The Core clips were both great, but hands-down my favorite was the first-person POV Derpy kiss "<3 you /mlp/ clip. That was adorable.>>38756634The 2 Gurren Lagann eyecatches because I only realized what was going on 2 months into the project and had no time for anything better.https://u.smutty.horse/mhuctoiftax.mp4https://u.smutty.horse/mhuzunkvyzr.mp4Maybe I'll have the full animation done by next year.
>>38778851>Under my noseThe threads have been up for at least a couple months
>>38776076Ankha was criticized and it was kept. quality control for this year was a joke
>>38779431It was only called "lame" twice and the second guy said it shouldn't be excluded for being mediocre.https://desuarchive.org/mlp/search/text/Ankha/
Just had my first good idea for an Antithology 2023 clip. See you next year, lads.