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ITT: Fillyanon being precious, AJanon continues to read Easthorse, there can only be one (AJ western fic), 4chan anon angry at using 4chan posts in 4chan threads as 4chan thread OP images, displaced remains a blight upon humanity, more fic reviews, COPEium and the loss thereof, nuclear pony power, productivity and writer's block, the metaphysical dialectics of genre and execution, the way to popularity is paved with porn or dramablogging, Fimfiction is dead, people don't read Dante, stallions and harem isekai, Harry Potter's worldbuilding still sucks, anon time travels and gets frostbite on his dick, nobody read The Hobbit, we almost have the Blink discussion, Twilight playing with her ass, imagine actually using Fimfiction, we should fix FiM by iteratively making it Harry Potter, American housings, Diarchy discussions, give horses horse names, pony tax evasion, is FiM all that different from Harry Potter anyway?, it's back, did you know 'ye' is actually supposed to be pronounced 'the'?, more like Furfiction, that time ERP almost killed the site, "We'll make our own Fimfiction", Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God, the art of cover art, anonfilly conversion project, Easthorse lore, more like Furfiction, we're all just kinda winging it, stalking users, new writers and old fics, epic AUs you'll never finish, sex life and clop writing, FP and FP but FP though FP, Chrysalis but with a dick but not futa, the art of cover art (reprise), multiple anons outing their accounts, read FiMC, Escherian architecture, and Cadance continues to be Queen of Cuckqueans

FiMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):
Winners:
http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png

List of Reviews made by the Anons in this thread:
http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk
Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.

>How do I write fanfiction?
Ezn’s guide - https://eznguide.neocities.org/
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Perfect Pancakes - https://cafedelites.com/best-fluffy-pancakes/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4f
Horse Behaviour - https://www.equestrianandhorse.com/equus/behaviour.html
Setting a story in motion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO8LbwTdu0
Taking criticism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4R2ZcxPlA

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs with comments enabled and give us a link.

>Reviews and riffs that are likely not up anymore:
https://ponepaste.org/5555
https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura
https://pastebin.com/eieQSTZD
https://pastebin.com/wmGX7FPm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU
https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/4/2/2312216.jpg
https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/

>Voiceguy's archive:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-VuBo5xPdifNsnXXGGySudMIgnVLvLQI

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Futaloo is futile.
G5 GET.
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>>37526041
The future is now.
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And we're back in action. Good ITT, Anon.
>Fillyanon being precious
You're a gem.
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>>37526054
No u
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>>37526033
I don't recall this much Harry Potter discussion. May it continue.
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Filly Anon is precious, but it doesn't mean she doesn't dislike (You)
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>Twilight playing with her asshole
Based.
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>>37526185
I, too, enjoy fics where Twilight plays with Spike.
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>>37526212
>the r-word
Rape?
Retard?
...Razzle-Dazzle?
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>>37526274
R*tionalfic
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>>37526277
AHHHHHHH
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Sweet Luna, jannies out here cleaning up with a shotgun and dynamite.
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>>37526411
This is the most moderated thread in the entire board, I always knew you were all feds.
Everyone except me in this thread is a fed!
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>>37526419
how do you do, fellow horsefucker
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>>37526452
Today, I will remind them.
MLD is nice fic
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>over 140 stories
>less than 300 followers
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>>37526419
Which do you think has better taste in pone?
CIA, FBI, or NSA?
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>>37526419
I thought glowies liked pony RPs not fanfics.
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>>37526033
>there can only be one (AJ Western fic)
>nuclear pony power
Aww yeah my two favorite things right now
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>>37526504
KGB. Russian fandom has to be under observation too.
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If a pegasus tells an earth pony to 'just wing it', is that racist?
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>>37527012
>black guy says something looks cool
>just steal it
kek
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>>37527012
no, only pegasi are allowed to say it.
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Any fics like mordane stronghoof?
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>>37525360
Probably turned into their general porn folder. Either that, or there's cuckolding/mares with flares subtext you didn't intend.

>>37527043
>will be combat
Make sure it's not stupid. It annoys me how single minded Equestria's military can be in fics, as though unicorns, artillery, and projectile weapons don't exist. It's all swords, spears, and wingblades.

>>37526041
>tfw no one's written a Yugoslav warfic yet, even though they'd lock down the "how did Equestria turn into Gen 5?" genre
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>>37526504
FBI, They get to look at all the kiddie porn they want, and no one can do anything about it.
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>>37527206
>Yugoslav warfic
>Then, without warning, the Slavs arrived in Equestria.
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>>37527225
That is an embarrassment of a "screencap" and you should delete it.
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Just submitted my first story. It's R63 Chryslestia gayngst but I had fun writing it. I'll link it here to get you guys' opinions on whatever I need to work on whenever it gets approved.
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>>37527353
>Chryslestia gaynst
>R63
So close and yet so far.
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>>37527353
Like, whatever works for you, but why R63 her when she can just take a male form anyway?

...Or did we already discuss this last thread?
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>>37527353
>needing to give Chryssi a dick when she has a perfectly good ovipositor
You are no true bugfag.
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Don't care either way, still gonna fap to her porns.
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>>37522669
>I don't know how or why people still keep going to that artist.
I find his ponies somewhat unsettling too, but I went to him because I needed someone who can draw Discord, and he actually does pretty well with that.
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>>37528118
I mean that's fair, and he does it for free (afaik - right?). But then you have stuff like Pandemic and you wonder if the author has ever actually looked at their own story page.
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>>37526840
>The best way to not appear new is to stop proclaiming "I'm sorry! I'm new!"
Alright, I guess I did become a bit of a caricature of myself in that regard. This will stop now.
>I gotta say you don't really look like you're making a lot of effort to seem not-new.
The examples you raise are fair enough, I should've looked into these more.
But just because you don't see it, don't assume I'm not trying. For example, when I made my first thread I didn't go around asking for stuff like what goes in the ITT or even something as trivial as where I can find the old fimfic logo (because I saw it in the archives, that no one uses the new one for the OP.) I also did the same with acronyms after I've realized it's really not something I should ask about. I'm not expecting a pat on the back, just explaining the story from my side.
>phrasing some of your posts in a faggy way.
I'm not that big into insulting others and I also don't take anything negative I read here to heart. That's why you almost never see me attack the author in my reviews even if the story itself is trash (except in the case of 'Mirror's Image', whose author can jump in a well for all I care.) And if you mean I'm too sugarcoated, yeah, I need to tone that down as mentioned above, but I'm not willing to change my entire personality just because we're on the Etruscan fishing forum and one Anon thinks it's gay.
>you insist on quasi-namefagging with a permaflag which I'm gonna use as justification,
It's a bit rich that you just chastised me in a long blogpost about needing confidence, but then you finish your own with shit justifications like this. Whose disdain are you trying to avoid? If there is one thing I've learned after lurking here it's that this thread loves drama as much as it loves fics. Also, "quasi-namefagging?" Several Anons here use flags, it's not my fault or problem that I'm the only one with the Anonfilly one. The moment we leave /fimfiction/, you'll have no idea who I am anyways.
>(I just hope nobody replies to this in the new thread to shit it up).
Mate, surely you didn't expect to lay this all on me and then we both walk away. But ultimately, I want to end this on a high note, I needed a slap from reality, so thanks. I'm also glad you like my reviews. But next time spare the theatrics and just talk to me, we're reasonable people.
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>>37528264
>gay
Hmmm, gay fillyanon...
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>>37528264
That Anon is just gatekeeping the precious anonymous board culture that exists... in his mind. Don't let him get you down.
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>>37527206
>Make sure it's not stupid.
The Royal Paladins, the focal unit of the AU, is unicorn-only, with all members being rather powerful as far as unicorns go. Think of them a bit as SEAL Team Six of Equestria. When you put together a few talented unicorns, and let them loose, shit can get done. Which is exactly what Celestia needs.
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There should be a pegasus-only AU.
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>>37528551
not really
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>>37528553
Think about it! No ground means no problems. It's just pegasi flying through a world of endless clouds, bro!
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Well I'm now seeing the problem of starting an unplanned one-shot based on nothing more than a vague idea because I have no idea how to end this.
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>>37528656
>"no AJ, you are the villains"
>and then AJ was Nightmare Moon
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Bump. I've had a few free hours today, so I got to the end of 'Pegasus Device,' and am currently writing the review for it. It's gonna be long, because man, does this story have a lot that needs talking about.
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/68356/pegasus-device
(Fillyanon, 1/5)
'Pegasus Device' is the fifty-one thousand-word sequel to the (in)famous horrorfic titled 'Rainbow Factory'. It expands on almost everything from the original story, including letting the reader know more about the world; introducing new characters; detailing the factory's purpose and also providing a much more impactful, though not necessarily more satisfying ending. While this story is nowhere near the longest I've read, it's 'special' enough to warrant a deeper look, so let's get into it.
One thing I have to mention now is that there is an inherent dichotomy to this story: If I take it seriously, it doesn't really work. It's campy, full of extreme mood-swings, erratic acting and a plot that seems to go in whichever direction it wants. But, if I consider it from the perspective of a young author, who wanted to include whatever they found cool into a single story, everything just sort of clicks and the underlying logic becomes clear. I am still going to view this story using the former approach, but I wanted to make it clear, that I understand (or at least I think I do), how things are supposed to work and can sympathize. Still, while there are power fantasies anyone can indulge in, - the recently discussed 'The Diarchy' comes to mind, - there are also some, including this fic, that only people who share the author's fancies can truly appreciate. Simply put, while I want to love 'Pegasus Device', I can't even bring myself to like it.
Let's start with the characters. While there are problems even on this front, one thing I really like in this fic is that you can sympathize with the villains too. Every named character of the CWC does what they do due to some twisted sense of loyalty to the company and Cloudsdale, or because they think that their world will end if they fail to keep up production. It's the old adage of "the ends justify the means," but packaged in an impressive number of ways.
Since I'm already talking about the villains, let's look at them. The first two characters we meet are Dr. Hide Atmosphere and the one everyone wants to cum inside, Rainbow Dash. I find both of them a mess. The former spends the entirety of the story clumsily switching between playing 4D chess by intentionally trying to sabotage the facility to prove the point that killing the failures is an outdated method, and gleefully tormenting the protagonists with the very narrative he's apparently against. I assume the author's intentions were that he's wearing a mask that he perfected over decades, but there are hardly any signs of him faltering or even showing that he's pretending. It's almost like he's two different characters at times, the "crazy, not-medical-doctor who laughs maniacally as he sacrifices foals" version and the "still very ethically gray, but ultimately wanting a change" version. I'd frankly be fine with either, but switching between the two just feels incongruent.
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>>37529438
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/68356/pegasus-device
(Fillyanon, 2/5)
Dash herself is even harder to stomach. She feels like a completely different character. When at the end of the fic she calls something "cool", like she would in the show, I was hit with a very strong sense of cognitive dissonance. We're supposed to accept that this is (or was) the same character that prances around with five other ponies saving the world and sometimes naps on trees or clouds or does dangerous stunts. It just doesn't work. "But this is an AU" would be a plausible explanation, but at that point she's RD, because she 'has to be' for the story to work, not because it makes sense with the logic of the narrative that it's her. There's not much I can say about her otherwise, she takes a surprisingly background-oriented role despite how important she is until the very end of the story.
The next character, Gentle Butterwing, is who I'd label the "villain-protagonist" as we follow her for most of the plot. There is no use softening the punch: She is a Mare Sue. From the moment she's plucked from the lower facility, she adjusts to her situation with terrifying speed (going from being distressed to saying and I quote "this is fun" in literal seconds), immediately wows and befriends her colleagues, immediately becomes a master of the CWC's surveillance system, turns a pipe of hailstones into a makeshift pen, calls RD "Rainbow" and she doesn't even care, pulls off a seemingly impossible stunt just to intimidate the protags and even miraculously survives the whole incident unharmed. While she does indeed become crazy at the end of the story, which I guess is the author's way of delivering karmic justice, she still basically walks away with her life, while other characters die like flies. I don't really hate her, but she's too perfect to be interesting. Nothing really proves a challenge to her, so we never even get to know her too deeply aside from a single flashback to her young years, which don't tell us too much, aside from that she was a rebellious teenager who wanted to "create" instead of being a cog in the machine and how ironic it is that she ultimately became just that.
I largely enjoyed the trio of Contrail, Gauge and Pipe Wrench. They are each very distinct characters and the short time they spend together in the story really sells that these ponies have worked together for years. However, the author has went overboard with making Pipe Wrench's speech slurred. I get why he is like that, but when I have to second or even third guess what he's saying then it stops being an artistic choice and starts being a major annoyance. His death on the other hand is done quite well. It catches the reader off guard and has weight. From that point onwards being a main character doesn't mean you are invulnerable. Gauge started out as the blandest of the trio, but his breakdown and the dry sarcasm he delivers at the end of the story largely make up for this.
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>>37529443
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/68356/pegasus-device
(Fillyanon, 3/5)
Now Contrail is a weird beast, in multiple senses of the word. From what I've seen people seem to largely like him a lot and he's probably my favorite character of the roster too, but for much of the story he is very awkwardly written. He is so over the top in his craziness that he almost acts like comic relief in a story that very much doesn't need any. His laughing and jittering just evokes the stereotypical "crazy scientist" image in my mind, instead of someone, who's genuinely unhinged and perhaps even dangerous. After his mind clears, he becomes a much more interesting character and his ticks of laughter and inappropriate jokes work much better at making him unnerving rather than lolrandom. His philosophical clash with the protagonists serves a much needed alternative perspective on the story's main conflict. The only problem - aside from the aforementioned craziness - is that he seems to largely only exist for narrative purposes. I know all characters technically only exist for that, but he feels even more detached than the rest of the cast. He is crazy when he needs to be, he suddenly becomes sane when he needs to be, he delivers exposition when he needs to and once he served his purpose he just slinks out of the story, never to be seen again (until the sequel anyways.)
I can't say I really care for the two ponies who serve as our protagonists. I don't know why, but neither of them feel at all too interesting. They mostly just luck their way through the story and serve as plot devices that move the drama of the CWC-side characters forward with little agency of their own. I have to admit, the moment I stopped reading the story I forgot their names and I'm only half certain about their appearances because they left so little impression on me. Making one of them into a killer was a good move, one I have to applaud the author for, but it still failed to make me interested in them.
The characterization of Absentia/Scootaloo kind of makes me wonder whether the author came up with it on the fly. She switches between multiple personalities in few pages and while some of them are justified, it still feels really jarring. I get that she is heavily PTSD-ridden and has been kept hung up for most of her life, but aside from the sacrifice she makes at the end of the story (which is admittedly a great scene, probably one of the most touching in the entire fic), she just kind of exists. Oh, she also does a rallying speech for the colorless ponies which felt incredibly out of character and just made me wince.
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>>37529448
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/68356/pegasus-device
(Fillyanon, 4/5)
Speaking of which, the rest of the supporting cast, largely made up of these colorless ponies feels very forgettable. I didn't even properly register who Snowflake was before he is killed off in a cliche "you have to leave without me" battle. The furfag, barking pony was more immersion-breaking than funny or anything. So was the quipping computer, who was defeated in the dumbest way possible. And finally the mare who screams about ripping out the wings of failures just makes the unnamed characters seem like M-rated Saturday morning cartoon villains, which hurts the moral greyness of the situation that the story otherwise tries to paint.
Just like in my 'Empty Horizons' review, I'd rather not go over the whole story, because it'd take way too long and my inaccurate recap wouldn't really be as effective as the story itself. I'm sure most of you already know what the story is about anyways. Instead I'd rather focus on specific aspects that caught my attention:
A repeated issue is the very contrasting moods in the story. One blatant example is when the protagonists rescue Scootaloo from her chains and act terrified and shocked upon seeing her condition. Then a few sentences later they are happily snacking, burping and patting their bellies before going to sleep. In an operating theater full of dead ponies and a murder machine. It just throws me right out of my immersion.
Same goes for the swears in this story. Every time I've read "flock's sake" I've sighed with exasperation. This is a story about little children being gored, just say "fuck" for fuck's sake. Similarly shoehorning in WoodenToaster's song is as annoying as it was in the original story too. The author tries to lampshade it a bit by framing as an "old employee educational video," but it still feels forced.
What's up with the ghost that whispers to the protagonists telling them to leave? And the howling foals? The story is otherwise grounded in relative realism, in the sense that nothing that happens in the factory is supernatural, except for this ghost to suddenly pop up, scare the shit out of the two foals and then disappear without a trace, never to be mentioned again.
One thing I really like is the depiction of the factory. I'm a big fan of impossible structures and the implicit horror they carry. Think Aperture Science in Portal 2. The place is so massive and so impossible to understand that the building itself becomes this looming, eldritch entity that holds the characters trapped. Few stories focus on this concept, but this one does it mostly right. I'm saying mostly because at times it almost becomes too self-indulgent in detailing rooms and places that have absolutely no relevance to the plot, but I don't consider this a major issue, especially next to everything else.
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>>37529451
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/68356/pegasus-device
(Fillyanon, 5/5)
The characters are constantly referred to with different words, which makes following the scenes very hard. I believe this is usually called "Lavender Unicorn Syndrome" and it applies perfectly here, especially because one of the protagonists is a lavender pegasus. When I originally read this story years ago, I thought I can't follow the scenes because I'm not a native speaker, but now I think it's rather because the author can't decide on what to call the characters and that takes away all semblance of certainty from any scene that features more than two of them.
I enjoyed Scootaloo's bitter reminiscing about how it was stupid to ever think that they might escape using the exact techniques that they failed on. It's clever and felt like a seamless nod to the previous story.
Atmosphere's plan is at best extremely unhinged (which is I suppose somewhat justifiable) at worst it's idiotic. It requires so many things that should go just right and the protags somehow are able to accomplish all of it. He had one shot at failures escaping and causing a major incident in the facility, failing which would have likely lead to a horrible punishment and totally closing him off from ever trying anything to change the factory again. Once you realize how much of the story is just a chain of very lucky coincidences and events, it's hard to take anything seriously.
Finally I have to talk about the ending, because it's absurd. After the foals finally escape suddenly the whistle is blown on the CWC and instead of the army being mobilized or a temporary state of martial law being declared after it turns out that there is a well-fortified deathcamp in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the kingdom, Celestia just waltzes in, looks at the factory and goes "well shit, you did a lot of bad, but I'm gonna be somewhat lenient on you because it's so horrifying."
What? They are just allowed to continue running the factory and everyone trusts that their new blood-donation method is legit? Even if they aren't shot on sight, Dash and Atmosphere should be in chains and in front of a tribunal, which would have, in my opinion, served as a much more believable ending, one which also justifies them "coming clean." They'd be forced to explain themselves and the tribunal would be forced to acquit them because they are vital to life in Equestria.
Overall: 4/10 'Pegasus Device' is greater in all aspects compared to its predecessor. The good parts are more impressive, the bad parts are even more annoying. I could go on about minor nitpicks and whatnot, but I think I've made my case. Ultimately, it feels like there is an amazing story hiding under heaps of "wouldn't it be cool if..."-s that drag it down. I can still recommend the fic for its historical significance, but otherwise, I've found it fairly disappointing.
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>>37528578
you make a compelling case; which of these do you think would be the more interesting setting for a pegasus-exclusive AU?
1) Pegasi are the only ponies, but the world is more or less unchanged beyond that. The ground still exists, the environments on the ground still exist, there are some pegasi that live on the terrestrial environments, but the sky and cloud cities are the main pegasi habitats
2) Jetsons-type deal where pegasi leave in the glorious, clean clouds while the earth ponies and unicorns live (if you can even call that living) in squalor below in the mud and tar
3) No ground. Just clouds. Clouds as far the eye can see. Equestria/wherever is a gas giant, or some sort of elemental plane of air deal where there may be a floating chunk of land here and there, but whether you fly up or you fly down, you just get more clouds. Some facsimiles of terrestrial biomes exist, but they're all modified for a cloud-centric existence (floating forests would be the first one that comes to mind, kinda difficult to make others, especially ones revolving around bodies of water, without some sorta land-chunk deal. Cloud lakes could be a thing though, perhaps)
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>publish story
>generally negative reception at first
>one guy makes a positive comment
>like 6 people give the comment a thumbs down
Wew. They hated it so much they wanted others to hate it too.
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>>37529698
must be a good story then
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>>37529737
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[silent implications]
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Tittysparkles burned our crops, poisoned our water supply, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
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>>37529679
Isn't 2 just the enclave stand-in from FO:E ?
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>half the thread dies
kek
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>>37529904
she turned me into a new!
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>>37529952
*newt
my typos always fuck up the joke. :(
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>>37529952
more like a newfag amiright
upvote and follow me for more quality 4chan content
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>>37529909
Maybe. I haven't read FO:E because I have some shred of self-respect (my boyfriend has a hardcover copy but I love him anyway)
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>>37528425
The only people supporting gatekeeping are weak faggots who need a shitty hugbox and can't coexist with others. You don't get to enforce that bullshit on 4chan of all places.
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Did I miss a massacre?
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>>37530007
The only people against gatekeeping are weak faggots with inflated ego who feel the need to infiltrate every place. You don't get to enforce that bullshit on 4chan of all places.
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>>37529952
>>37529955
Fitting flag.
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>>37530007
>wah! I belong everywhere! Especially places that I don't agree with!

That gate is meant for you.
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>>37530023
>>37530034
There is no gate you tards. The best you have is shitflinging monkeybrained tards wasting thread space.
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>>37530007
places do not require co-existence with undesirables
the gate is meant for your kind, since you subhumans are a plague upon any area you infest
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>>37530093
You know who's really undesirable?
People who call others subhuman.
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>>37530111
that's weird way to spell "spike"
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>>37530111
chad
>>37530149
ultrachad
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>>37530111
Bu-But Anon! I'm enlightened by my rationality!
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>>37530051
>Gatekeeping isn't gatekeeping.
If you don't like it. You can leave. Thats how the gate workds.
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Are you supposed to thank people for favorites/follows? I see it often but it seems silly.
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>>37530202
I do for follows (not favorites), mostly out of habit at this point, but it'll strike up conversation with the person who followed me sometimes and I enjoy that
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>>37530111
t. seething subhuman
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Is anyone actually kind of looking forward to G5? It's going to be fun to have a new batch of characters to play with. Even if the canon execution turns out to be shit, the new group looks like it has the potential for interesting dynamics.
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>>37530284
Yeah. I don't think it's going to be lightning in a bottle like G4, there's pretty much no chance.
But I'm going to give it a chance it anyways. The trailer was better than I expected actually
And if you look at the Fimfic stats, the number of new users has been going way up for months. I think the fandom might be growing again now that G5 is coming..
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>>37530339
Broski you're looking like a cheap false flag, right now.
Go read a fic.
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Whatcha workin' on, Anons?

I'm trying to see if I can't work out an outline for an idea for a short oneshot of a librarian poner in the future finding Princess Twiggles's secret lover's journal in a hidden shrine.
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>>37530339
If you want to start shit then please fuck off our thread and go blog on Fimfic, you'll get better results.
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>>37530007
Go back to plebbit, faggot.
Gatekeeping exists to keep 0k8dp
a hobby pure.
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>>37530380
One-shot of EQG Flim and Flam creating a portal to and from Equestria and selling vacations. After that a continuation of my Applejack x Sour Sweet crackship one-shot. And then a one-shot of the Nightmare Moon timeline where she suggests eating children as a way to solve the current food crisis.
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>>37529952
You don't look like a newt...
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Bit of a long shot but I'd like to know if by chance one of you as a copy of a pony reading video that was deleted.
There was this guy called Sojourner that did a reading of this fic: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/338957/bugs-in-a-blanket
He went and deleted his entire channel, I used to love listening to it when going to bed. Bit sad to have missed it even though I usually download everything.
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>>37530380
I should be writing about Luna getting drunk on an industrial solvent, but I'm not.
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>>37530531
I assume you've checked TPA?
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>>37530380
>whatcha workin on
A greentext story. But I do wanna write a story for fimfic about an obsessive chrysalis salivating over the thought of twilight being her marefriend.
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>>37530604
sounds awesome
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>>37530634
Thanks, I came up with it as an excuse to get her to do something OOC and not get called out.
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>>37530620
Yep, wasn't popular enough to be archived there
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It's Wednesday, so the COPEing continues

Adam considers doing his actual fucking job, but thinks better of it:
>Adam gave up any attempt to communicate at the moment, having only noted some commonly-used words that he had heard – meul and mʘeseo. Are they pronouns? There’s a good chance they were – at the very least, they were frequently-used particles in their speech.
>But only time would tell ultimately, and for the moment Adam had some work to do at the barber.
At this point he's put more effort into learning the ponies' math and music notation than he's put into learning their language.

The commenters have apparently given up all hope of the stupid temp job plot going away, and have quit complaining about it. By sheer coincidence, the author chose today to post a comment for the first time in a month, though it was only to acknowledge a typo.
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>>37530380
I'm finally finishing revisions on my thesis monograph. After that, there's a fic I want to review, and then I'll go back to my long neglected fics.
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>>37530380
I've been juggling between the sequel to my 100k fetish fic and Regent. For Regent, I'm torn by a magical rinderpest outbreak that I started writing in 2018 to worldbuild and nerf alicorn healing magic. I love the worldbuilding it creates the big revelation of the origin of Equestria's medical establishment at its conclusion is my current favorite scene of the whole story, but the covid connotations readers will inevitably take from it is deflating my enthusiasm. I want people to enjoy it for the lore and cool magical plague, not think it's a political soapbox the author made.

For the clopfic, work has slowed until it gets cold again, so I can properly fap to the scenes without getting drenched in sweat.

>>37531037
>have quit complaining about it
So they're literally seething?
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>>37531037
And after several weeks of silence, the author makes his first comment.
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>want to work on actual stories
>all my brain wants to focus on is turning a masturbation fantasy based on https://www.fimfiction.net/story/279277/equestria-girls-horrifying-mind-worms-are-magic into a weird sol
God damn it, I need to stop jerking off to weird shit in bed.
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>>37531256
Jerk off and then write like 5-10 minutes afterwards. It will stave off the horny for a little while.
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>>37531037
I'm hoping he mostly learns the language off-screen now.
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>>37531314
If he hasn't done so in the last month or so of people complaining, I don't think he will any time soon.
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>>37531307
This isn't even horny anymore. I went from "Sunset gets her brain eaten and turned into a mindless meat puppet" to "the brain parasite decides its wants to be Sunset's friend/sister so the mane7 take it minigolfing". I don't even know how I made that narrative leap.
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>>37531074
He means the story right guys? r-right?
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>>37531341
I don't know either but I have have you know you can NEVER go wrong with minigolfing
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>>37531372
I dare you to reply that to his comment.
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>>37530291
>And if you look at the Fimfic stats, the number of new users has been going way up for months.
Knighty himself remarked on this. It's bot accounts the site is being flooded with. Search for users with a blank field and sort by newest, they're 99% bots and spam.
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>>37526033
I love this image even more now
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>>37531403
I haven't even read the story so I don't have the right to be mean to him
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>>37531434
You could always read one of my stories, and then be mean to me, anon.
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>>37531491
Piss off
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>>37531491
maybe I already have
I only leave good comments or else I just don't comment
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>>37530521
... i got better.
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Trixie/Anon humiliation (no sph) fics? Preferably not too mean-spirited and with sex.
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>>37531071
>the covid connotations readers will inevitably take from it is deflating my enthusiasm. I want people to enjoy it for the lore and cool magical plague, not think it's a political soapbox the author made.
If Tolkien could power through writing a massive "good vs. evil" world-scale war while WWII broke out right in the middle and forced him to write several sternly worded letters about how he hated allegory, surely you can keep writing your rinderpest fic through a small pandemic. Just quote Tolkien on allegories.
That is just as long as you don't have any on-the-nose political bullshit going on; if unicorns have to all wear masks but then some protest against that, or something along those lines, then you're in a much more difficult situation.
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>>37531507
That kind of spineless ingratiating always pisses me off.
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>>37531651
FUCK that PONY ASS.
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>>37531651
ShoutingIsFun makes me happy.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/503157/shine-boys-birthday

What drives a man to write hot garbage like this?
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The red changeling story has been deleted again.
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>>37531651
Genuine question, how do you humiliate someone without being mean about it?

>>37531895
The circumstances of the story are at this point more exciting than the story itself..
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>>37531903
>how do you humiliate someone without being mean about it?
You could probably be overly coddling or helpful, or kind of condescending but in a well-meaning way.
Like, imagine a cripple who's very proud, and he physically needs help to e.g. get up a flight of stairs but he finds the experience extremely humilating. A person carrying him up would be both doing a great kindness and a service, but also humiliating him.

In terms of ponies, it could be a spin on the "pony superiority" angle, where ponies consider Anon to be a cripple because he can't use magic in any way, while all three pony tribes can. You could also have ponies obey cartoon physics while anon has realistic durability, so ponies perceive him as extremely fragile. Hence well-intended (and perhaps even necessary) coddling, while Anon feels humiliated and debased by this treatment.

Alternatively, you could just have Trixie be in-character, and maybe it could be considered not mean-spirited because she's basically a mental cripple so maybe she just can't help herself/doesn't know any better.
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>>37531903
>at this point
I dunno, it kinda started that way I thought. The story itself was always nonsensical garbage, like the protagonist was channeling a capybara.
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>>37530380
A gay fic about femboy dudebro and his introvert hulk of a roommate.
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>>37530380
twilight velvet R63ing herself to give night light a surprise buttsexing, then realising she's stuck that way. It may never surface, because I'm a lazy fuck.
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>>37531949
>The story itself was always nonsensical garbage
Oh sure, but until now it was just a shitfic. Now it's a shitfic that was taken down, put back, taken down again, while the author makes excuses and promises, turning the whole situation much more interesting than the actual plotline.
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>>37531981
We should novelize the events surrounding it.
>>37530407
Look, I get mistyping the captcha, but at least fix it afterwards.
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>>37531962
>femboy
You have my attention.
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>>37531962
>femboy dudebro
Alright I have to say I'm not intimately familiar with the intricacies of either femboys or dudebros, but aren't those completely incompatible qualifiers? Not as in "haha what a wacky combination", but as in the definitions are literally contradictory?
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>>37531981
>>37532002
Maybe it's an ARG, and the author is merely pretending to be a third worlder ESL while the story is merely a prop in his actual artwork currently unfolding before our very eyes.
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>>37532041
Not the writer, but I wouldn't say so. You can just as easily be a douche while wearing a skirt as you can when wearing gym shorts.
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>>37532061
I dunno, my impression of "dudebro" is of those kinds of "tough street teens" that smoke and drink beer because it's cool, wear backwards baseball caps, and, as per the name, address each other as "dude, bro". Basically like the "bro culture" meme feminists hate so much but taken to the extreme.
Meanwhile a femboy, in my eyes, is a twink who acts extremely faggy and feminine. Optionally crossdressing, long hair, being into chastity and shit like that.

If you showed me a dudebro wearing a dress, I'd probably describe it as a "dudebro drag queen" if anything, but not a femboy.
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>>37532080
A femboy is just a scrawny girly dude. He's more than likely a crossdresser and often, but not always, gay.
Ain't no laws saying he can be a bro who crushes brewskis and brags about how much he just got laid. It doesn't change his frat douche personality if he's feminine and was the one getting his coltpussy annihilated.
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>>37532104
*can't
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>>37532041
>>37532080
According to feminism, anyone here is a dudebro by default.
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>>37532104
Yeah ok fair enough, that makes sense.
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>>37532112
Well I'm a girl 15% of the time so I can give you guys a pass.
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>>37532141
A dudebro pass?
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>>37532141
>Well I'm a girl 15% of the time
Noticed a careless mistake with your math. Answer should have been either
>0%
or
>100%
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>>37532158
don't judge, anon. for all you know, they might spend their weekends in a parallel dimension where they're actually female.
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>>37532158
Correct! A reasonable person would expect to see 0% or 100% there, but the author of that post wrote 15% instead. Their goal was to subvert expectations in order to produce amusement in the mind of the reader. This type of writing is often known as a "joke".
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>>37532193
Didn't we previously establish that the posters here are unable to understand metaphors, similes, personification, symbolism, hyperbole or sarcasm? That half the people are too autistic to understand anything but hyper-literalism?
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>Sees Mix-Ups comment on the Long and Short of It
Oh, so it's not that he's a bad artist, he's just like that
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>>37532112
As far as I know, everyone here has a penis. Even the girls. Especially the girls.
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>>37532393
What do you mean by "he's just like that"?
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>>37532501
He's a weird guy. The art looking the way it does is probably just a product of that.
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>>37532193
Your life is a joke.
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>>37532616
His comment reads like he might be a downie, which would be a common explanation for his oddities.
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>>37532469
Ideally no one here would have a penis. How can we start working towards this goal?
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>>37532865
Are horse penises acceptable?
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>>37532775
We all spend the majority of our time screeching about my little pony fanfic, I think all our lives are jokes
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Wait, this isn't an R63 fic?
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>>37533000
Yeah, can't really argue against that one anon.
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>>37532988
acceptable? endorsed!
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>>37531903
You don't. It'll definitely be mean, but the point is that she isn't doing it just for the sake of putting him down. Think of it more like an abusive relationship. One where she's trying to make him feel like he can't do anything for himself and that he'd never be able to get anyone else. Of course since they aren't in a relationship it's more just trying to make him easy pickings for herself.
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>>37532616
>He's a weird guy.
for you
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>>37532865
It's very simple. We must become the mares and fillies we adore.
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>>37533329
And don't forget stallions >>37533173, but otherwise yes
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Well, I've found myself trying to write my first fanfic. I feel like it'll turn out really amateurish, as one would assume for a first-timer, but I'm hoping it'll be at least a bit entertaining.
It's a short story about Twilight being stuck in space and trying to cope with the isolation that comes with it. Haven't read Nasapone, so I hope it won't be a massive, accidental rip-off.
I guess you use a burner Google acc when posting drafts here, right? I don't want to doxx myself like a retard.
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>>37533059
Nope. It's just a somewhat androgynous Sci-Twi. Other than that it seems like a pretty by-the-numbers fic.
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>>37533450
We only do intentional doxxing 'round these parts.
I wish you the best on your first fic, fillyanon. I look forward to reading it.
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>>37533450
>I guess you use a burner Google acc when posting drafts here, right? I don't want to doxx myself like a retard.
Pretty sure there's a way to share it that doesn't reveal your account
Or you could use https://hackmd.io/ - it supports comments and only requires an email to sign up (whereas google will demand a phone number, I think)
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>>37533059
A friend of mine who used to do some (non-pony) art once joked that if women in his pics look similar and kinda masculine, it means he used pics of himself in various wigs as references. Maybe this artist actually does that.
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>>37533450
Can't you just disable the author's visibility on Gdocs? I think you can
Besides, make sure to post it when you're done. I want to rip it into pieces
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>>37533400
No way. Mares and fillies only. Stallions suck.
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>>37533400
Based not-a-trannychad
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>>37533624
they suck better than mares if you know what i mean and i think you do
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>>37533569
>I wish you the best on your first fic, fillyanon. I look forward to reading it.
Thanks Anon, even if it turns out to be a shitfic, we'll have fun laughing at how bad it went.

>>37533582
Oh that sounds like a good alternative. Honestly, my other idea was to just use ponepaste, but I realize that doesn't support comments. I will look into this, thanks!

>>37533623
>Can't you just disable the author's visibility on Gdocs
Even if you can, I haven't yet found where and Google is surprisingly unhelpful. And when I tried sharing a link and then opening it in incognito, I could still see my own mug and IRL name as long as I've had the link open.
>I want to rip it into pieces
That will be much appreciated Anon. I'm hoping that perhaps experiencing the other end of the trade might help me improve my reviews in the long term.
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>>37533624
and blow
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>>37533681
>my other idea was to just use ponepaste
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You ever read something that makes you stop and take notice? Something that interrupts your daily flow to look at life in a new perspective?
>The End of a Day
>Dictates Its Worth
Whoa.
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Kinda appropriate that NMM's sigil is an eye, considering that's what her entire head consists of...
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>>37534717
I remember one story going into pony anatomy said that their eyes are actually a sort of domed plate in their head, so it doesn't take up too much space needed by their brains.
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>>37534734
I'm in the "insect-like compound eyes" camp, and they're micro-articulated like cuttlefish skin.
Or just magic.
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>>37531962
>>37532005
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>>37532104
>>37532080
>>37532005
>“Hey, if you keep it up with the bicep curls you’re gonna get detained for bringing weapons on campus.”
>“Gotta drain the ‘ol hose, right? Although, it’s less ‘garden’, and more ‘fire’ with you, isn't it? No homo, bro.”
>“I feel sorry for the next mare who has to take that thing, hombre,"
>“You keep a wheelchair in your room yet? Maybe a bucket or two for the overflow...”
>"No homo."
I probably won't publish this but I had a lot of fun writing it.
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>>37531307
>write after fapping instead of using the horniness to knock out a 1k long fetish scene
Anon, pls.

>>37531726
Nah, no masks. It's rinderpest mixed with cholera, so it spreads in liquids, including water, rendering masks ineffective. The difficult part is a vaccine made from alicorn blood is what cures it and lets the fic move on to the next subplot. Since the ponies trust the alicorns deeply and Equestria's government medical establishment is very well respected and has a good track record dealing with previous outbreaks there's not going to be any hesitancy in Baltimare when they role out the inoculations. But readers are still likely to create subtext where it doesn't exist because Fimfiction's infested with politics.

>>37531895
I was wondering how long it'd take the mods to enforce the "don't post the same story twice" and "don't repost deleted stories, ask a mod to reinstate it" rules.

>>37533329
Based and Starscribepilled

>>37533450
I just created a separate google account pretty sure the phone number's an optional account recovery thing with my fimfic username. It used to be a pain in the ass but Google's actually made it pretty easy to switch between accounts in GDocs now.

>>37533582
>>37533623
There's no way to hide the author in GDocs.
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You shall all be my writefags because unlike you I actually have tastes. I don't write my character like whiny melodrama loving millennials-zoomers.
I'm the millennial who grew up in the 2000s and I understood every single thing about it. I fucking hate internet humour and I fucking hate the 2010s.

Get on your knees and follow your leader.
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Well threads dead, so what are some ideas for character interactions you've all come up with, but haven't found a place to use yet.
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>>37535885
It's 1AM in the Americas and it's morning in Europe. The thread is dead because everyone is sleeping ya doinkus.
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13956772/1/Chuck-versus-the-Elements-of-Disharmony
ayup
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'Member DakariKingMykan?
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>>37530380
>workin'
Wish I was. School+job has been keeping me busy.
Did get my first piece of constructive criticism on my fic (that wasn't from my proofreader), which is something I'm glad happened. Is it considered weird to go back and edit already-published chapters to adjust for criticism? In this particular case it's that I spend too long describing things sometimes, and I'd be truncating sections of those to be more to-the-point and remove unnecessary details.
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>>37535153
>The difficult part is a vaccine made from alicorn blood
Could you just not call it a "vaccine" then? Just say that you can make a remedy out of alicorn blood. Just alicorn blood by itself likely has enough handwavy magical properties that you don't even need to also make it work like a vaccine, you could easily just say it's a panacea that immunises the user forever. To avoid cheap "everyone is immune to all diseases now", you can say that it has to somehow be magically attuned to the disease, so they've been making specifically anti-rinderpest blood.
That way you avoid a lot of the connotations. Vaccines work in a very specific way (namely, providing a harmless sample of the pathogens to induce the body's immune system to prepare antibodies), unless you very specifically need that exact mechanism, I see no reason not to just write it off as a magic remedy. Alicorns are associated with immortality and vitality anyway, I wouldn't bat an eye if a story said that alicorn blood can be used to cure diseases.

And if/when people still bring up comparisons, yell at them that they're midwits who are incapable of appreciating a story on its own merits, and that you have always disliked allegories and would never write a political allegorical story.
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>>37535153
>>37536421
if it's made from blood, it should be called a serum.
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Quick, I need an E-rating alternative to "[noun] be damned." I don't know why but I want to keep my fic E-10 at worst, and I'm having trouble writing a character as rude and caustic without using minor swears.
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>>37536484
Does "damn" really bump a fic up from E?
I can't think of any established alternatives off the top of my head, "[noun] be dratted" just doesn't sound right. How about changing the turn of phrase to something like "[noun] notwithstanding, Tartarus take it!"?
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>>37536484
Be hecked
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>>37536484
darn
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>>37536499
dag nabbit daggit naggit nabbit darn dag naggit daggit!
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>>37535153
He wanted the horny gone so he could work on non-horny stories. Not my fault horny has consumed the brain.

Also yeah, google is basically everywhere and they want to know what you get up to. Best to just "Throw them off" with various accounts, or in this instance>>37536484
throw other people who don't have access to everything google off.
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>>37533450
I'm almost at six thousand words now. It's crazy how fast the story formulates if you are inspired. Though I just hit a bit of a roadblock, I have the chapter before the penultimate one and also the epilogue, but I'm a bit stuck at how to make their ends and beginnings meet properly. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be able to figure something out.
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>>37535153
Just embrace it. Throw in a subplot with conspiracy theorists refusing to be vaccinated and Darwinning themselves.

>>37536057
Was that the dude with the four-horned alicorn space prince?
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>>37536951
he was autistically mad about the name "friendship is magic" and kept insisting that it was actually belief that was magic. the ponies also had a starfleet.
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>post about twilight's dick adventures in last thread
>gets it's final chapter update after 6 years yesterday
amazing
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>>37537756
Post about my favourite deadfics, Anon. Please.
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>>37535799
Hi Mandark. What's your favorite pony fanfic? Or at least what fic do you consider the least shitty?
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Well, whoever claimed that 20% of the work takes 80% of the time must have been a very wise guy, because the last ~1500 words took about as much time to write as the previous four thousand.
Regardless, I was finally able to come up with a draft that I'm confident enough to show to you:
>https://hackmd.io/8aJ1rSP3TXq_f2W-MCpgsg?view
I'm eagerly awaiting your criticisms.
The site allows anonymous comments, so you don't even need to register. Maybe we could even put it in the next OP.
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>>37537796
>deadfics
This Platinum Crown comes to mind immediately. The Errant Sun was an Magic crossover where Celestia wound up as a planeswalker and it died early on. Behind Closed Doors, the sequel to Temple of the Stars. I remember liking those years ago. Mass Effect: Shades of Twilight, I loved The Equestrian Equation and Shades of Twilight was such an interesting followup that had one more chapter this year and then the author just vanished once more.
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>>37538049
>This Platinum Crown
Wasn't this like one freaking chapter away from completion when it stopped?
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>>37538050
Pretty much. Maybe two if there was an epilogue. It's fucking mind boggling that it was so close to finally being done and then NOTHING.
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>>37535924
wtf
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>>37537887
I'm busy at work right now but I may give it a read in a bit.
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>https://fimfetch.net/story/5676/the-god-particle
I'm about halfway through this fic now, and I'm starting to see why it got all those downvotes.

>Twilight comes to Celestia in tears, begging her to reverse a certain decision
>Celestia has several good reasons not to, but some of them involve secrets that she refuses to tell Twilight (even though she already knows Twilight is fated to have a major role in the situation)
>instead, Celestia gives Twilight a bunch of bullshit excuses that ultimately come across as "I won't because I don't want to"
>Twilight's so upset that she can't even stand to stay in the castle after this, so she goes to a shitty hotel (which now that I think of it makes absolutely no sense when her parents live in Canterlot)
So Celestia completely alienates her faithful student and hero of prophecy because she doesn't want to tell Twilight about some shit that she already knows Twilight will find out about soon anyway.

Aside from that, there's this whole Royal Council business that is just set up in the dumbest way
>the Council is a group of about 15 ponies who act as the princesses' most trusted advisors and high-level administrators
>council members are magically bonded to the princesses
>the position is for life; they are not allowed to quit or retire under any circumstances
>if a pony is offered a council position but refuses, that pony can never be offered it again
>council members live in the castle and are forbidden from leaving without prior permission from one of the princesses
>council meetings involve only the princesses and the Council; they're uncomfortable with bringing in outside advisors
>breaking the magical bond would cause the council member to "lose the will to live" due to being suddenly cut off from the Solar Source and Lunar Source (though I'm not sure how they figured this out, when not a single pony has ever attempted to quit the council in its entire 1500-year history)
It all just seems like such overkill
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Why have I never seen an aggressively British pony, even in fics?

>>37537887
Pareto, as I recall.
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>>37538209
>Celestia is an asshole
So in other words it's canon Celestia.
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>>37538297
Celestia is the best character in FiM.
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>>37538303
You mean... if we do the season 8 and 9 aren't canon thing?
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>>37538053
I've been putting it off reading for literally years, waiting for it to be complete. Hell, I just re-read through The Best Night Ever, the story it's the sequel to, two days ago.
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>>37538322
>if we do the season 8 and 9 aren't canon thing?
I thought that was just the basic assumption for everything anyway.
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>>37538322
>>37538354
Seasons 8 and 9 make her even better, as does EQG.
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>>37538345
The Best Night Ever is great. It's a fun comedy that wraps everything up nicely. TPC is a fucking monster of a political thriller with intense action and is also great but it needs to fucking finish at this point.
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>>37538415
>Seasons 8 and 9 make her even better, as does EQG.
ok, how?
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>>37538430
Well Celestia is effectively a brutal troll if you take season 8 and 9. Izzy here is also a troll so...
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>>37538430
>EQG
Her relationship with Sunset gives a lot more material to her and helps explain her approach to teaching Twilight after failing one.
>Seasons 8 and 9
They show the ultimate conclusion of her plannings as well as her finally getting to abandon her self imposed shackles.
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>>37538475
>Celestia decides to retire after 1000 years
Makes sense
>Also give up doing her special talent too while she's at it
I'm sorry what
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>>37538574
Sometimes you just wanna sleep in you know?
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>>37538574
Would ponies really take someone else as their leader if Celestia was still the one raising the Sun? Would they even consider her decision as anything other than a farce if she gave away her title but still held her power?
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>>37538600
The British monarchy does keep a bunch of powers, but for 100+ years the monarch has only used those powers on the advice of the Prime Minister. Since the Prime Minister and Parliament are the ones making the real decisions, that's who people consider as the leaders in practice.
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>>37538475
And what about Luna? Thousand years away, working hard to fit in to this new time and be a competent ruler, then oh well guess Celestia wants to retire so I'm out too?
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>>37538640
Last I checked the queen doesn't literally raise the Sun, uncontested in her ability to do so.
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>>37538659
She got used to being a NEET on the moon and has no patience for modern politics.
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>>37538659
Did Luna ever want to rule? Besides she's still doing her dream stitch. Besides besides, she agreed with Celestia. If Celestia had wanted to retire and Luna wanted to stay, Celestia could have retired alone.
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>>37538664
Doesn't matter. If Celestia delegates all authority to parliament, and only raises the sun on the schedule that parliament decides, then after a few decades of that, nobody will be looking to her for serious decision-making any more.

>>37538671
>Did Luna ever want to rule?
What exactly do you think NMM/Luna's motivation was for imprisoning Celestia and declaring eternal night?

>Besides besides, she agreed with Celestia. If Celestia had wanted to retire and Luna wanted to stay, Celestia could have retired alone.
Yes anon, I'm aware that canon did all sorts of dumb shit. Pic related
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>>37538710
>What exactly do you think NMM/Luna's motivation was for imprisoning Celestia and declaring eternal night?
Forcing ponies to live in the night and appreciate it as a result of her emotional state driving her insane. DYEWTS? Why are you stupid enough as to confuse and conflate Luna and Nightmare Moon? You think you can do something that retarded and then handwave anything away as "bad writing", much less have any kind of valid opinion on writing at all?
>muh bad writing
>it's bad writing because I don't like it
>I don't need to explain, just reee hard enough
Also
>pic
>it's actually a gif
So you're really retarded.
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>>37538738
Did you not watch the season ender where Starlight took them back in time and kept fucking up the future? Did you forget the one where NMM was the legit ruler? Did you even bother watching the show?
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>>37538873
Did you forget the part where that's Nightmare Moon and not Luna? The mentally unstable manifestation of Luna's anguish and anger brought to the extreme, manifested as an obsessive desire to rule and replace her sister? And NOT FUCKING LUNA?
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>>37538989
i wish i was fucking luna
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>>37539018
I wish I was Luna, fucking.
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>>37538989
>The mentally unstable manifestation of Luna's anguish and anger brought to the extreme, manifested as an obsessive desire to rule and replace her sister? And NOT FUCKING LUNA?
Actually, if you remember the episode about Luna and her first Nightmare Night, she thanks Twilight for, "Taking away our dark powers" rather than 'Freeing me from that demon/whatever'. And in the episode where Luna is punishing herself with the Tantabus, she pretty clearly feels completely and personally responsible for everything she did as NMM.

Just because you like to caps lock doesn't give your lack of knowledge about the show a pass. Cool your tits or go watch the show.
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>>37539117
Carefully reread what I wrote. At no point did I imply that Nightmare Moon is in some way a creature external to Luna. But she is inherently different. She's a manifestation of her worst impulses and unrestrained emotions, of her 'darkness' without control (as evidence by her own shock at her transformation). She is not comparable to Luna in her normal state. It would be like comparing a severely drugged and altered person to their regular self. Using Nightmare Moon's actions to infer what Luna wants is foolish. Nightmare Moon banishes Celestia, would you say Luna wants to do as much still? Of course not.
But I guess you can always be a retarded faggot incapable of personal growth, who can't fathom the concept of a character changing, if that suits you better.
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>>37539117
There have been a number of episodes about forgiving yourself for things that aren't clearly your fault, and Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep was one of them.
It's clear that the transformation into NMM is one of body and mind. It's a common trope, so I'm not sure why you have difficulty, obviously presented in iconic characters like Spider Man and Super Man.
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>>37539197
>using capeshit as some kind of reference
Was that before or after the 33rd retcon of the 5th reboot?
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>>37539197
Does anyone have the edit where that scene is synced up with the intro to The Ninth Wave?
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>>37539203
pretty sure Venom and red kryptonite work basically the same in every reboot but if you're a philistine I guess that's on you.
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>>37539203
>muh capeshit
>muh must hate what's popular unconditionally and unquestionably and also hate anything the resembles it
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>>37539213
Venom has kind of undergone retcons as a consequence of them doing retarded stuff with expanded symbiote lore as a whole, and also technically there was at the very beginning the way it changed into its own character from being just the black costume but that was so long ago it's just ingrained in the mythos at this point.
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>>37539181
>She's a manifestation of her worst impulses and unrestrained emotions, of her 'darkness' without control (as evidence by her own shock at her transformation).
The previous question remains pertinent: do you even watch the show? In part two of the season five finale, Nightmare Moon acts in a cold, calculating, and rational manner. These are not the actions of someone overcome by their emotions, like the Hulk would be from the post below yours. Go watch the episode, it'll be fun, might even be a new experience for you!

But I guess you can always be a retarded furry autist screeching about how your headcanon replaces what's explicitly shown in the episodes. You've certainly got experience in doing it!
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>>37539226
>using the Hulk as an example
>without realising professor Hulk is literally the antithesis to his argument
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>>37539236
The Hulk is a pretty well-established character, not sure how you don't understand the example.
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>>37539236
>the newest issue of Caped Cocksocks #420 had a new character
>the established persona of an old character is now completely irrelevant
>its literally the antithesis to his argument
You proved my point retard.
>Was that before or after the 33rd retcon of the 5th reboot?
Fuckin' beautiful man, thank you.
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>>37539236
Ah, but you see! The 1980s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had one episode where Donatello's bandanna was accidentally colored red like Raphael's, so there were two reds at once!
>using Michelangelo as an example
>not knowing Raphael was both a master of the sai and the bo staff from that point on and is therefore literally the antithesis to his argument
Ho ho ho, those poor philistines!
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>Ragging on someone for using an easily understood pop-culture reference to explain their point.

>Not ragging on them for misspelling both Spider-Man AND Superman.
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>>37539295
>you don't have any interest in comic books or movies based on them
>wow how could you not know how to spell two of them
It's a total mystery for sure.
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Well I have no idea where the fuck this Applejack x Sour Sweet is going or how to end it either.
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>>37539338
Should be obvious, really. Have AJ throw Sour Sweet off a bridge or something and quip
>How do ya like THEM apples?
Then turn 360 degrees and walk away.
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>>37539344
>Then turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>360
Anon, she'd be walking off the bridge.
>>37539256
It's funny how you think complaining about the supposed complexity of comic books is a good argument when all it does is highlight your utter inability to process information more complex than a literary children's cartoon (which you also fail to interpret properly).
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>>37539356
>>Then turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>>360
>Anon, she'd be walking off the bridge.
Not him, but your newfaggotry is showing.
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>>37539356
You have to go back.
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>>37539364
>>37539365
>see DNA of the soul
>prosecute accordingly
>"newfag"
Summer is supposed to be almost over, guys.
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You're all looking too deep into it.
NMM is obviously Luna's repressed incestuous homosexuality. She just wants to be dominated by a strong alicorn, and since society shames incest, she just pictures the antithesis Celestia, the kind white alicorn who strives for harmony: A dominating black alicorn that takes what she wants in spite of what the others may need.
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>>37539388
>repressed
>implying the sisters don't spend their retirement having furious sex 24/7
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>>37526033
Hey Fimfic thread. Join in or add this thread somewhere. >>37537070
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>>37539396
>their retirement
Well, yeah. Because at that point, it's no longer repressed.
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>>37538659
From Luna's perspective, being a Princess sucked. It was basically heartbreak and ruin from day one. I can't believe she stuck around as long as she did.
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From my point of view the ponies are evil.
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>>37539442
Princess Cadance is for sure. Just walking around blasting ponies with mental-manipulation spells.
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What're you reading anons?
>The Mares in the Moon
Latest chapter was interesting, I'm really curious to see how the celebration plays out with the return of Celetia and Luna against the alien Princess.
>Sunrise
Shit is starting to go down with Celestia and Luna enacting their plan in its fullest now.
>Griffon the Brush-Off Extended Cut
Gilda is just one big bundle of issues and fuckups that it's sad to see and I'm wondering how things are going to go down now.
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>>37539446
Cadance can control ponies' minds and out of all of them she picked Shining, proving once more he's an alpha Chad with a massive horsecock.
Also how's that Cuckdance story going, Tempestanon?
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>>37539221
Symbiotes got much better with further expansion and new characters.
And then got so very much worse with even further expansion and even more new characters.
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>>37539450
>alpha Chad
You don't get it.
Shining was the guard. It's a staple of romance for the princess to fall for the guard.
Ponies' love is just a puzzle for solving to her and she's used Captain Armor to further her sick game of Matchmaker. Chrysalis was doing him a favor freeing him from the crazy succubus's charm.
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>>37539448
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/493260/a-completely-normal-school-board-meeting
Neat little comedy story. The author can actually write Discord well so I'm excited to see where it goes.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/457465/phoenix-born-rising-the-ascension-of-sunset-shimmer
I'm torn on this one, since the author decided he wants to show Sunset's entire life almost. It's well done, but wish the plot would move faster.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/419665/finding-friendship
Shit's about to boil over with NMM return so pretty hyped for the next chapter. Kinda funny the author had to put out a blog cause to many people kept thinking he was gonna pull a Let's Do This with her return and why its an AU.
>>37539538
Remember when not-Sasuke killed off 2 fan favorite characters. I fucking despise comics
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>>37536421
>handwavy magical properties
The idea's that since Twilight can't heal the victims with her OP alicorn healing magic because untrained healing magic causes cells to regenerate uncontrollably and creates cancer, they inject her with the disease, her innate self healing ability defeats it, then they take the blood and use it as a vaccine. Because it was originally created using dark magic, the disease can't be completely eradicated as it adapts to whatever new immunity is created this is to handwave why inoculations aren't given in foalhood. The current outbreak is defeated, everyone's saved, and we move on to the next subplot.

>>37536484
You can probably get away with that kind of phrasing. Otherwise, some variant of "Curse [name]" fills the same role.

>>37538209
>slave privy council with a death geas
Definitely one of the weirder lores I've heard about.

>>37538574
>Celestia's special talent is raising the sun
Can't remember, was that actually confirmed or is it fanon based on her cutie mark? Would make a good comedy oneshot plot to have her actual special talent be like greenhouses or something and sun raising's just part of the job.
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>>37539613
>Luna's talent really is to deal with mold.
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>>37539295
>using an easily understood pop-culture reference to explain their point.
In that anon's defense the reference is not at all easily understood by me. All I know is that superman has like an office drone job by day and then he puts on his spandex suit, but I wasn't aware there was a "body and mind" transformation, I thought he was just larping as an average joe during the day, and changing clothes.
If it's not that, then it's not at all easily understood.
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>>37539613
>they inject her with the disease, her innate self healing ability defeats it, then they take the blood and use it as a vaccine
My point stands, it doesn't sound like a traditional vaccine if they're using the alicorn blood as a healing factor. There may be a way to mush around the definitions and call it a vaccine, but there's definitely plenty of room to NOT call it a vaccine, and if you want to avoid IRL connotations I suggest you do that.

The other anon's suggestion of "serum" sounds pretty good to me. Alicorn blood serum, makes a ton of sense, minimises risk of idiotic debates in the comments, what's not to like?
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>>37539656
There's always someone who hasn't seen Mickey Mouse yet.
Admittedly, red Kryptonite isn't a fantastic example but picking the Marvel and DC icons is more than sufficiently comprehensive.
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>>37539448
>Sunrise
Good shit
>The Mares in the Moon
That one sounded interesting but I think I was waiting to see how regularly it updated first

Things I'm reading currently:
>COPE
Wish it would unfuck itself. It started out strong but I wish the MC would remember that he's supposed to be learning the damn language, not counting things and sweeping floors so he can buy a fucking pocketwatch
>Hiver in Equestria (book 9)
Page and Luna are half a continent apart for most of this book, which sucks because the comfy scenes of Page and Luna cuddling or reading a book or generally chilling together are honestly the best part of this series
>Changing Expectations
Decent adventure fic, if a bit edgy. The arcs just keep getting longer, but the current one is finally wrapping up. And with no loose ends this time, so now they can start gearing up to fight the big bad.
>Spike of All Trades
In which Spike becomes The Gamer. Honestly not sure why I'm reading this, aside from the time Cancerino shilled it ITT (it's written by a friend of his). It's kind of dumb, though the Spike/Ponk shipping is cute

>>37539613
>slave privy council with a death geas
It's not even a geas, just a generic magical bond kind of thing. Princesses can detect where council members are, council members can borrow some of the princesses' abilities (one of them uses Luna's power to turn invisible, for example), and the council members' eyes all turn magenta during the day and teal at night. And honestly, I feel like the spell is the least weird part of that whole setup.

>they inject her with the disease, her innate self healing ability defeats it, then they take the blood and use it as a vaccine
That sounds very similar to convalescent plasma therapy, which provides only temporary immunity (a few months). There's an EUA for convalescent plasma treatments for COVID-19 so it's possible some of your readers will have heard about it in the news.
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>>37539685
The hell is red kryptonite? Kryptonite is green.
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>>37539715
He doesn't know...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite#Forms,_colors_and_effects
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>>37539685
>Admittedly, red Kryptonite isn't a fantastic example but picking the Marvel and DC icons is more than sufficiently comprehensive.
Not him, but anon, not everyone has seen everything you have, or has the same interests. And if that is your post calling that anon a philistine for not knowing your favorite comic book characters, that is rather narcissistic, especially when other anons have pointed out you apparently spelled their names wrong as well.

If those characters work for the point you are trying to make, you should explain how and why instead of just dropping their names as if that makes the argument for yourself. The age old writing adage, show and do not tell.
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>Red Kryptonite
>Debuted in Adventure Comics #255 (Sept. 1958).
>Originally red kryptonite simply weakened Superman, but to a greater degree than green kryptonite.
>Red kryptonite was later shown to cause odd behavior or bizarre transformations, albeit temporary and non-fatal.
>The effects of red kryptonite typically last anywhere from one day (24 hours) to two days (48 hours), although in some accounts the effects may persist up to three days (72 hours) or even several weeks.
>[15] In the Smallville spin-off, red kryptonite affects Clark's mental state and the effect wears off as soon as he stops being in close proximity to the stone.
>Clark becomes selfish and uses his powers recklessly.
>He is also shown drinking and philandering.
>On Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, red kryptonite initially makes Superman apathetic, while another piece transfers his superpowers into other humans.

Since this is getting way off-brand for MLP but can still serve a point, it is easy to summarize this as every different medium and every different iteration of them has varying and inconsistent effects and durations, and that is just for red kryptonite; there are twenty-six different and unique kryptonites in that list. If someone is going to reference something like red kryptonite as an example, it needs to be done very specifically with a defined time period, medium of publication, and an explanation of what it does and how it is an example.

Twenty-six kryptonites. Jesus Christ. Why.
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>>37539782
I remember this one time red kryptonite turned superman into a lion furry. Not to be confused with the other times Superman got turned into a lion furry.
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>>37539761
The point was to mock 37539117 for failing to understand a common trope in children's cartoons, not educate. The point of leveraging pop culture references is to not have to explain them: brevity is also a core value in writing.
Of course, some people >>37539782 are willfully ignorant about not understanding that it makes Superman weird and not-Superman for a while and then he goes back.
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>>37539789
And notably distinct from DNA-altering beams, DNA-altering viruses, DNA-altering fields, DNA-altering chemicals, splicing in animal genetics, growing a whole new hybrid of animal and Superman DNA, magic, Greek godly powers, Norse godly powers, celestial powers, divine powers, nanotech reconstruction, parallel-universe versions, parallel-dimension versions, intersecting-dimension versions, multiversal versions, being bit by a radioactive lion, discovering a lion ancestor somewhere in the family tree, being replaced by a future version, and becoming his own grandfather with recessive lion DNA that eventually caused him to exhibit dominant lion features.
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>>37539805
>The point was to mock 37539117 for failing to understand a common trope in children's cartoons, not educate.
You were mocking him with your superior knowledge and familiarity with children's cartoon shows.
>The point of leveraging pop culture references is to not have to explain them: brevity is also a core value in writing.
Which fails if the reference isn't known by the other party. Also, brevity is a good thing but not if you can't get your point across; then it's simply a failure in writing.

Like that guy Jack, am I right?
>Of course, some people >>37539782 are willfully ignorant about not understanding that it makes Superman weird and not-Superman for a while and then he goes back.
Willfully ignorant about the effect of one of twenty-six kryptonites, especially when the effect of "makes Superman weird and not-Superman for a while" is inconsistently applied across the actual published material about it per >>37539760? Green kryptonite kills Superman, and the first iteration and use of red kryptonite had it simply kill Superman faster.

Anon, you're digging yourself into a pointless hole about this in your constant attempt to look down at someone for not having your level of knowledge about trivia from some random other media than the one this thread and board are about.
>point was to mock
>some people are willfully ignorant
This is just looking desperate, anon. Let's go back to talking about ponies.
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>>37539838
>Let's go back to talking about ponies.
Okay.

If I were to write an Equestria AU where the tribes didn't willingly unify and the nation's only held together by the Princesses' power over the skies, how would you rank the M6 by who would be the most racist?
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>>37539869
I can imagine Fluttershy treating Earth Ponies and Unicorns as if they were just another animal that needs her aid.
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>>37539869
That's just MAS and it goes: Twilight=Rarity=Pinkie>AJ>>Fluttershy>>>RD
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>>37539869
Needs a little more detail first, I think. How AU are we talking? Is everything up to the start of season 1 more-or-less the same, just with this new power structure? The Princesses have power over the skies, does that mean the weather in addition to the sun and moon? Is Nightmare Moon going to return, or did Luna never become her?
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>>37539401
This looks like a normal anon to me.
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>>37539869
This feels kind of like asking "If King John didn't sign the magna carta in 1215 and agree to cede power to his barons, which US states would be richest?"
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>>37537887
Left a bunch of comments. tl;dr: it's shit.
Nah, kidding. Most of my comments were grammar, punctuation and phrasing suggestions/nitpicks. I did find a few points in terms of plot that I had questions about. Most prominently, I think the whole "standed in orbit" piece of plot does more harm than good, as it's kind of illogical the way it's set up right now. It makes for a nice epic return once Twilight is invigorated, but I'm not sure if that's good enough justification.
One possible replacement would be to have Twilight just dive into her work like crazy to escape the loneliness, to the point of mental instability and approaching a breakdown. She'd become irrational from the solitary isolation and repressing her loneliness with work until she could no longer think straight, and then she'd just be stuck in this self-destructive loop, and the noise would just add one more obssession to "figure out". Then you get the scene where she decodes the message, the whole friendship surge as she remembers she's not alone, snaps out of it, and realises she should really just head home and basically the ending can be unchanged from this point.

The other plot hole, and this one I don't have a good idea on how to fix, is why they first wrote off two-way communication as unviable and then suddenly decided it was viable and managed to implement it from scratch in all of two weeks while Twilight was in orbit. Including building a bloody giant radio dish. This, I can't explain.
That, and the dilemma of whether radio decoding by unicorns was known or not. But if we go with the "obsessing with work to stave off loneliness until rational decision-making leaves her", this one can be explained - it could be a known phenomenon but barely ever used in practice. And Twilight, in her isolated, workaholic, manic state, would fail to remember it, until she gets her lucky epiphany. This could work. Again, though, this still doesn't explain how they went from "considered completely infeasible" to "working implementation" in just two weeks.
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>>37537887
>>37539934
Oh! Forgot one point. Twilight sent a couple of letters talking about how the noise was driving her insane and she had no idea where it was coming from, yet Celestia kept transmitting despite the letters clearly communicating Twilight's distress.
This can be explained, of course, if there was a delay in Celestia getting any of Twilight's letters. Say they could be tracked, but if they fell into the ocean, it would take a few days to recover them. Then Celestia would be happily broadcasging the message, unaware of the anguish it was causing because Twilight's letters about it hadn't reached her yet.
However, this needs to actually be mentioned in the story, otherwise it looks like Celestia read about Twilight's bewilderment and confusion and cheerily continued to beam headaches up to her.
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>>37539888
Very. This is all early planning and subject to change, but here's a basic outline.

>Princesses rose to power during the Windigo events
>They used bribery and threats to get the ponies to unify well enough to get rid of them
>Tensions are still high and Luna hasn't had the downtime to develop jealousy to have fester into NMMism while 'tard wrangling the various factions
>The tribes are allowed their own lower governments that answer to the Princesses on important matters but are mostly left to their own devices
>The tribes are also represented by the Unicorn and Earth Pony Guard and the Wonderbolts
>Discord happened and was banished through the use of the Elements after causing the growth of the Everfree and destruction of the old castle leading to the move to Canterlot
>Twilight bacome Celestia's student in a similar way being picked out of a school as having great potential, but it caused accusations of tribal favoritism and leads to issues in her life
>It's the odd reports of strange occurrences believed to be chaos magic that cause Twilight to snoop around during the prep for a festival in Ponyville the Princesses will be attending
>Ponyville is under an Earth Pony government but is more accepting than other places
>Blah blah blah plot happens, friendship, elements, sinister entity that formed from Discord's leftover magic in the old castle gets destroyed, yadda yadda roll credits
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>>37540016
Well, if the princesses control the weather, which was previously the responsibility of the pegasi, and the sun and moon, which was the same for the unicorns, then I think the earth ponies might be at the top of the totem poll. They're the ones who grow the food and make the only essential contribution to society; if the unicorns and pegasi died off tomorrow, the earth ponies and princesses would be fine. The same would not be true if the earth ponies died off.

Hmm. There's an interesting allegory to the current social situation in USA. We have a largely useless "educated" demographic who don't actually contribute anything yet still think of themselves as being the top dogs and most important group. If the latte-sippers and woke-affiliated college graduates just disappeared, life would continue on just fine if not markedly better. Same could not be said if all the farmers and blue-collar workers disappeared.
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>>37539914
Well?
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>>37540113
Vermont, obviously.
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>>37539914
Is it though? RD would obviously be racist against the wingless.
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>>37539942
>Most of my comments were grammar, punctuation and phrasing suggestions/nitpicks
I don't think I'll ever be able to get over how convoluted English's grammar is. Does it at least throw native speakers too in a loop sometimes?
>One possible replacement would be to have Twilight just dive into her work like crazy to escape the loneliness, to the point of mental instability
That was more or less my intention, hence the characterization of inanimate objects like papers that keep encroaching the space around her. However, I guess it's not stressed enough.
>why they first wrote off two-way communication as unviable and then suddenly decided it was viable and managed to implement it
Yeah, I have nothing for this one currently. I wrote with the assumption that I'll mention in the plot that for some reason they have to rush the project, but then never actually got to that point because it wouldn't have made much sense.
I'll need to find a good reason here, because the plot kind of hangs on it.
>it could be a known phenomenon but barely ever used in practice.
This was my goal, but again seems like I didn't explain it properly. I figured because in later seasons we can see things like telephones in Manehattan, it's plausible that there is already radio technology existing in. I'll elaborate on it.
>otherwise it looks like Celestia read about Twilight's bewilderment and confusion and cheerily continued to beam headaches up to her.
My thought process was that she knew it causes short-term harm to Twilight, but because she didn't seem to be able/willing to come home by herself, she justified it.
But I really like the idea that the messages just fell into the ocean, it does away with the uncomfortable implications of unintentional "torture" for the sake of getting Twilight down.

Thank you very much for the comments and corrections, Anon! You've raised very valid points and the grammar check is also very helpful. I'll try to come back with a v2 later once I can figure out how to iron out the issues.
Aside from the stupidities, did you like the story?
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>>37540308
>Does it at least throw native speakers too in a loop sometimes?
Personally speaking? Not really, but only because I'm used to it. if something's weird I don't focus on it, just a "oh, that's how it is"
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>>37540308
>Does it at least throw native speakers too in a loop sometimes?
There are certainly poor native English speakers, but that seems to correlate more with the abilities of the person speaking it than the language itself. It does have a well-known and well-earned reputation for having arbitrary and contradictory rules, when learned by non-native speakers. Also, the Internet has led to something of a rapid decline in quality as well, so it's harder to get an accurate assessment.
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>>37540308
>I don't think I'll ever be able to get over how convoluted English's grammar is.
Honestly, I don't think the grammar itself is all that convoluted. French, for example, has something like 18 tenses or whatever? It's ridiculous.
It might help you to know that I'm a non-native speaker, too. I just read a lot, and so reading your story I picked up on things that sounded "off". That said I'm not confident I'd be able to write "correct" prose myself first try - there's a reason even native speakers always try to use a different person as an editor and proofreader.
>That was more or less my intention
Yet you added the whole "I'm stranded in space and can't go home" subplot, which as I mentioned in my comments leads to this rather odd situation where she's bloody stranded and yet she's still just trying to continue research without so much as a light panic about being stranded.
You do in fact have a good base for going crazy with work, but what I meant is that you could make it the ONLY reason why she's not coming home.
In fact, since at the end of your post you say that Twilight wasn't coming home and Celestia started sending the message to try to get her to arrive, I think that Twilight just voluntarily not coming home - due to going manic - would work MUCH better for the plot overall, than any kind of malfunction with the ship not responding.
And I get that you tried to have it so that the ship doesn't respond specifically because Twilight is not in the right state of mind, but that doesn't alleviate all the problems I mentioned (Twilight should still be panicking over it), hence my advice to cut it out.

>Yeah, I have nothing for this one currently. I wrote with the assumption that I'll mention in the plot that for some reason they have to rush the project
The classic one would be some kind of astronomic event. She really wants to get above the atmosphere to get a clear sight of a once-in-a-millenium comet, or stellar conjunction, or whatever else.
However, even if the project was rushed, you'd need to be careful about the phrasing to depict a realistic breakthrough - we want zero progress before mission start so that Twilight doesn't have any expectations (meaning they can't even have properly decided on the method (of using radiowaves)), and then suddenly make some incredible breakthroughs that actually let them put it into practice within two weeks, which is absolutely lightning fast.
Or you could actually extend Twilight's stay. Have her hold out for 2-3 weeks, and start going stir crazy around a month in or so. That would already double the timeframe for the engineers to have their breakthrough.
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>>37540308
Oh yeah one thing I forgot to mention in the comments: I may be wrong, but I believe you don't actually need a large dish to transmit radio signals. The bigger the dish, the weaker the signals you can RECEIVE, but for transmitting you just need a really high powered transmitter, which doesn't need a dish.
If you cut out a gigantic dish being built on Canterlot that is visible from a long distance, then that would also make the crunch timeframe a bit more plausible.

>Aside from the stupidities, did you like the story?
I think I do. It's short and quaint, so I'm not sure if it'll have that great of an emotional impact simply because there's not a lot of room for build-up - you could for example extend it into a short multi-chapter story, and spend a few k words on Twilight's descent into solitude-induced madness, including one penultimate chapter of just scizo tier ramblings, before she finally gets the epiphany, decodes the message and snaps out of it. Crushing it all together into a relatively short one-shot does remove some of the impact.
But I think the idea is really neat, and while in its current state it has some serious holes, if they were patched there'd be a lot of promise. Your prose, while slightly clunky in some cases, overall flows quite well and wasn't unpleasant to read, so I definitely have high hopes for V2. This could easily be top of the feature box material if it gets polished + the mandatory element of luck aligns.
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>>37540064
>we could survive by losing population
>in a capitalist society
How is one man so retarded?
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>>37540880
>>we could survive by losing population
>>in a capitalist society
There's an amazing and wonderful process by which new humans are created. It's called sexual intercourse, and is how humans procreate. I understand that this is a foreign concept for you, but you really should have studied up on such basic parts of life. Also, if you read the other sentences around a few words that you try to cherry pick, you can garner information from context clues and improve your reading comprehension as well.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your intellectual growth. It's truly a blessing.
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>>37540919
>people breeding at above replacement rate
>in current year
Why are you always retarded?
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>>37540926
>bringing up things that had nothing to do with what was said
>getting riled up about a comment on a story idea
Fight that strawman, you can do it! I believe in you!
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>>37540936
>if we kill the market the producers will still thrive
>no you can't bring up real world examples you're going off topic you're wrong you're fighting a strawman you're wrong stop adding information and challenging my view of the world I'm right and you're wrong so shut up it's off topic you're wrong
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>>37540969
>>if we kill the market the producers will still thrive
Cool strawman.
>>>no you can't bring up real world examples you're going off topic you're wrong you're fighting a strawman you're wrong stop adding information and challenging my view of the world I'm right and you're wrong so shut up it's off topic you're wrong
What real world examples? What added information? You haven't done anything except trying to post hot takes like some smug latte-sipping tumblrite. You couldn't even fight the strawman you were trying to prop up.
>posting hot takes with no examples
>do people really still do this?
Retarded troll.
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>>37531256
Why are you ejaculating in bed? Sounds like a pain to clean up.
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>>37540985
Can you stop getting baited like a fucking faggot and get back to talking about ponies, you retard?
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>>37538640
She also turned up in court once. First and only UK monarch to have ever done it. Literally the most based thing to happen in the past century of UK legal history. 'Liz just turned up, said "he's innocent lol", and the guy walked away.
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>>37539450
>Also how's that Cuckdance story going, Tempestanon?

Haven't had much time to write and I'm fucking slow. Cadance still spying from the closet while Thunderlane wags his butt at Shining, to the mild irritation of the other mares Shiny picked up.
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>>37540999
>I was just pretending to be retarded
>that wasn't me
>you didn't beat me, I'm going to whine that you wrecked my retarded ideas by posting
>I mean someone else's retarded ideas, that were totally retarded intentionally as bait
>if I try to post a hot take like you lost then I still won
Can you stop breathing like a worthless sack of shit? gg no re though, fuck off retard
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>>37540926
Take your pol garbage to another thread or something, would you? We do not need it here.
>muh capitalism
>muh breeding demographics
>muh replacement rate
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>>37540016
In that setting with the princesses ruling through shady/political methods instead of just because they're alicorns, it wouldn't be a good idea to let the different tribes have their own mostly-self-contained government structures. Doubly so if the geographical distinctions between cities and counties match up with tribal distinctions. It's just begging for one of them to start playing power games or possibly even break away entirely. The princesses would need to have more interdependence between the tribes to keep them all firmly in place.
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>>37541043
Perhaps she could ensure that they're reliant on one another for the raw materials required to make weapons of war, meaning that none could go to war with the others without losing their supply chains.
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>>37541017
>someone else accused the one I'm replying to of baiting
>it must be them samefagging
>I beat them, this means
Like I said, retarded
>>37541026
It's the other anon who started bringing on his retarded muh workers muh entitled educated masses spiel, probably because he never made it past high school
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>>37541058
Hmmm, maybe? That seems like it could easily be circumvented though, like a pack of Diamond Dogs could come in and offer one tribe the minerals they needed, or any other society or species. I dunno, the setting of the pegasi and unicorns not really contributing their unique abilities to the survival of Equestria is an odd dynamic to plan around.

Although it would be somewhat awkward, I feel like the most direct method would be to make two new arbitrary things that only they can provide for Equestria. Like semi-permanent shields over towns and around dangerous things like portals. I'm having trouble thinking of one for the pegasi that doesn't just turn their whole tribe into Equestria's army or require so many of them in separate locations that the tribal separations wouldn't actually be present.
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>>37541008
kek, source?
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>>37541008
We need a fic of Celestia doing this.
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>>37540308
>Aside from the stupidities, did you like the story?
It was okay, actually it was better than the dozenth or so story of many authors on Fimfic. So for a first try, this isn't bad. Hone your craft, and you could go places. Also, kudos to you for the grammar, you mentioned you aren't a native English speaker, but compared to that, this was very okay.
Twilight going Interstellar is an interesting plot, although the "ponies in space" thing was done quite a few times before, but then again, what wasn't at this point? Expanding this into a few-ten thousand-k fic I could see, probably I would read it as well.
The other anon already pointed this out, but the "radio signal in her head" plot device seemed a bit off to me. It drives her crazy for days, but then suddenly just realizes what it is? Okay, it's not too bad, it was just the standout issue in the story for me.
I don't like a numbers rating system, but I saw you're doing it that way, so I give it 5/10. Heck, make that 6/10, because you went with unicorn Twilight, instead of unnecessarily featuring her as an Alicorn, which 95% of fics do. It was good enough for one read, but it just didn't have enough oomph to make me go "wow" or make me think about it too much after I finished.
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>>37541125
>>37541146
There's a lot of takes on what happened. I could probably find the court transcript somewhere, but here's multiple Australian takes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N9SxgKtv9s
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Newfags and newfag enablers need to lurk moar and/or kys
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>>37541157
You first
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>>37541157
Please learn how to stop posting cringe.

>>37541146
Twilight desperately triying to explain to Celestia how she technically retains the powers of an absolute monarch, but centuries of parliamentary tradition and legislation mean any actual attempt to wield such power would throw the government into an absolute crisis as Celestia sweeps into court giving no fucks.
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>>37541084
>I'm having trouble thinking of one for the pegasi that doesn't just turn their whole tribe into Equestria's army or require so many of them in separate locations that the tribal separations wouldn't actually be present.
Just give them back weather control? Maybe have them live in a few cloud cities scattered around and not really visit the ground much, if you're worried about too much interaction between tribes
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>>37541245
It's not my AU though, I'm trying to brainstorm it within the conditions anon set way back here >>37540016. That would be the simplest solution, just let them keep doing what they've been doing, but I'm not writing the story.
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>>37541155
I can see it working as a story about Celestia suddenly declaring a perceived criminal as innocent, a drama / mystery plot exploring what it is that she knows but won't tell others from an outside perspective.
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>>37541255
>It's not my AU though, I'm trying to brainstorm it within the conditions anon set way back here
Yes, so am I. Even if "power over the skies" does include weather control on top of sun/moon/stars (not how I interpreted it originally), I think it's worth reconsidering that plan
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Having seen the early G5 rips:
You know how we discussed that sense of wonder and possibility when getting into a new story?
It's there. They could still fuck it up the way HP fucked it up, but right now it's there. There's a world of potential with G5. So much goes unaddressed but it's there, and it could lead to so much, and I am genuinely hopeful.
It doesn't need to go full Tolkien and have everything planned in crazy detail, and of course it could still go the HP route and hang itself with its own dick, but right now it all holds together and it's wonderful. It's that sense of awe you get at a story that feels like it's hiding so much more. If the series delivers then the closest example of what it might achieve is Cowboy Bebop. Not quite, but I'm getting around that kind of vibes in terms of writing potential.
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>>37542069
>sense of wonder
>movies is full of references to modern pop culture, and the plot is as generic as it can be
>potential
I don't think you know what you're talking, anon. Right now, the movie looks like an aggressively generic kiddie flick at best, and Filly Funtasia tiers of cringe at worst. This ain't made by Faust, and this doesn't have soul at all.
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>>37542069
Yep. The setting is kind of shit (way too much IRL tech), but it does seem open-ended at least for now. Hopefully they don't fuck it up with repeated applications of "actually, that's fucking boring"
>actually, there's only one village of griffons, and it's a shithole
>actually, there's only like 50 dragons in the world, and they're almost all idiots
>actually, the battle between Celestia and Luna only lasted about five minutes
Hopefully the G5 series will get into what happened to the old world and not try to pull stupid shit like saying there are only three pony cities on the entire planet
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>>37542280
Honestly the biggest 'Oh shit' moment for me was when they showed the Wonderbolts poster.

Like, there's so much stuff that's clearly there and deliberately not addressed yet (for the movie's own sake). Hitch's animal talent, the crystals' origin, how exactly Twilight fits in all this. We know there was a point in time where things were still stable but the new towns already there. It's just making me want to speculate so much. I have legitimate hopes for the future.
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>>37542522
Anon, as one anon to another, your expectations are going to leave you disappointed no matter what happens. Tamp it down a bit for your own peace of mind. The random tidbits of G4 cutie marks and the rest could easily turn out to just be advertising bait to keep us, the secondary demographic in general, attentive long enough for Hasbro to publish decent Nielsen Ratings for their investors. I don't want to smother your enthusiasm but you're setting yourself up to be hurt.
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>>37542522
>Honestly the biggest 'Oh shit' moment for me was when they showed the Wonderbolts poster.
Yeah, that's a good one. Shame we don't have english audio yet because that whole scene seems like both a big character building moment for Zipp and also the closest we get to worldbuilding/lore.

Somewhere in the special/series, I'd really like to see how the pegasi got hold of Canterlot in the first place. Though I am disappointed that they're apparently following S9 and making a big deal about Twilight, without even a mention of the true princesses of Equestria.
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>>37542654
Expectations *are* low. Hopes are high. Two different things.
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>>37542735
Fair enough anon. Like I said, I don't want you to set yourself up to be hurt by it.
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Let's discuss.
The amount of downvoted tells me he's hit the target.
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>>37543438
>The amount of downvoted tells me he's hit the target.
I'd say it's getting downvoted cause it's fucking stupid.
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>>37543438
That reads like someone took a rake to a thesaurus and used the words stuck to the rake.
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>>37543438
>It's not that the world is full of shit, it's that you are too weak to eat that shit for the rest of your life
>actually uses Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy to discuss real world problems
The only discussion to be had is in how much of an idiot this guy is.
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>>37543438
Alondro?
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LOOK AT THIS MAN

LOOK AT HIM

WHY CAN'T YOU BE AS DETAILED AS HIM?

>>37537070
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>>37542069
Filly Funtasia's toyetic world design has more potential than G5.
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>>37543516
Can you stop spamming that thread in all the generals?
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>>37543561
>assuming I'm posted it in all the generals.
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>>37543539
I think I figured out why the G5 faces are so disturbing, at least for myself. There's a Japanese term for someone who is crazed, demented, unhinged, etc. that translates as "three whites". It means being able to see the whites of someone's eyes on three sides of the iris. I'm sure some specific meaning is lost in this retelling, especially as I don't remember what the term itself was, but it's easy to demonstrate.

Find a mirror or the selfie camera on your phone if you're a hipster and make some faces without changing your eyes. Now try making those faces again with your eyelids pulled back so the left, right, and tops of the white is visible. For most people there's an instinctive reaction.

That's how these models come across to me.
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I think it's a combination of several factors, but their having more traditionally realistic 3D rendered eyes is a major contributing factor. There's a reason anime eyes aren't realistic.
The eyes don't look real, but they look more real than G4. The mouths also look significantly more real, but the face lacks a nose.
These all combine to push them towards the uncanny valley instead of away from it.
To their credit, they've done an absolutely incredible job with the colors, so the G5 ponies look great when drawn with G4 faces.
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>>37543438
On the point about people who like their childhood, I think that reflects more about the author's experience of their own childhood, and the issues they had.
What I'm reading between the lines, is that the person who wrote this does not envy their childhood.

My response is that you should envy and feel happy about every part of your life.
If your childhood felt wrong, then your parents have failed. They could have done better.
The world is complicated, but it is possible to do enough that people don't have a bad childhood.

We don't improve childhood by making it harder.
That's a misunderstanding of the fact that children are people, too.
To understand what's best for them, you should strive to understand pedopsychology, the study of how children think.

I feel that a psychiatrist would love to hear the author talk about their childhood.
There's probably a lot of pain hiding in there, seeping out as trauma and bitterness.
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>>37543438
>people saying something is retarded means it's actually smart!
No, you might just be retarded.
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>>37543778
This, but as a whole thesis.
Voting on ideas works well, actually.
Sometimes it is wrong. But most of the time, if people overwhelmingly disagree with you, that doesn't mean you've hit any sort of target.
You've just failed to convince.
It's all humans on the other side, they're diverse intelligent beings, and statistically distributed.
If none of them agree, boy you sure fucked that one up, 9 times out of 10.
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>>37543799
>Sometimes it is wrong. But most of the time, if people overwhelmingly disagree with you, that doesn't mean you've hit any sort of target.
>You've just failed to convince.
>It's all humans on the other side, they're diverse intelligent beings, and statistically distributed.
>If none of them agree, boy you sure fucked that one up, 9 times out of 10.
If this worked from an impartial viewpoint that separated the idea from the person speaking, that would be more accurate. However, that's not consistently how people use updoots and downdoots. It can quickly become a popularity contest, or supporting your side against the other, regardless of the strength of arguments being made. We're not in an ivory tower in our neck of the woods.
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>>37543838
I agree, actually.
You're making a more fine distinction that I am, and I think you're correct.
I'm just broadly expressing the vague idea that we have collective intelligence, and we can agree together on truth by rough consensus.
If someone disagrees with collective consensus, they're probably, but not always, wrong.

When they do, they better bring solid proof.
And if there's anyone clever at all on the other side, they'll see it and work to bring the votes around by spreading that idea.

I think you have to carefully build the systems you're trying to create, but more voting is generally closer to truth and agreement than less voting, when voting is cheap and people agree what they're updooting in the first place.
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>>37543772
>pedopsychology
kek
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>>37543870
I fucking knew you were going to say that, anon :)
Don't go to Greece. Whole lot of innocuous pedo- words and things in these lands.
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First chapter of Sunrise was pretty interesting.
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Here's how we killed the animals, by the way.
In case you're trying to fight for survival, the way you do it is you pour concrete. You bulldoze anything natural, anything that has resouces on it. You replace it with rock.
Then you clean it so thoroughly that nothing can live there, except you.
You survive there by having infrastructure. You live in the barren clean rocks, but you bring your food from outside.
That separation is how we civilize, it's how we make things safe.
Home is safe, because there's no energy in it for other animals to use. There's the food we eat, and then there's rock.

I suppose that's why Changelings are terrifying. You can't get rid of the food, when the food is our emotions.

The other part of civilization is genociding any other species than stands anywhere between your safe rock, and food.

Two species have won at this game.
The ants, they share the underworlds. Billions and billions of them, more than any other animal by several orders of magnitude.
No matter how you look at it, the ants have won. Their tunnels are everywhere. The underworld is theirs.
Us, we have the surface. We bulldoze the surface and clean it, and then build infrastructure to get food.
The ants build a civilization of tunnels, and use infrastructure and organization to dominate everything that exists, at their own scale.

It's all the same principle, really.
The only reason they're not dead, is they stay underground.
Ants would make a good villain. Not literally, because no one is afraid of ants, but as a swarm.
I guess that's also what Changelings are.
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>I think I figured out why
Yeah they're fucking ugly. Pudgy faces, flattened heads, wide troll snouts, round simpleton eyes, too much zombie sclera like this is a 90s cartoon like The Loud House or some shit, ugly manes that look like pubes.
I find it impressive how I who never read books, never wrote a book in my life, etc. am capable of knowing why I hate and love the things I do without requiring a vast knowledge about everything. My parents taught me well and my brain taught me well about tastes and expressing myself.

Meanwhile the G4 designs almost look like cats. Smooth round heads and ears, tiny snouts, almond-shaped eyes with eyeliner, giant iris, noble/intellectual faces/expressions, tiny bean bodies, appropriate neck size.
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>>37543927
>You can't get rid of the food, when the food is us
Are you familiar with the concept of meat eaters?
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>>37543868
>If someone disagrees with collective consensus, they're probably, but not always, wrong.
>When they do, they better bring solid proof.
This actually brings up one other way that the updoots can give inaccurate results. For an audience member who has little to no familiarity or experience with the subject, even though they may tentatively think one idea is correct or not, they don't feel comfortable enough standing up to defend that opinion if need be. So after waiting a bit, they check the number of approvals vs. disapprovals and follow the herd.
>Seven likes, three dislikes?
>Well, I'm not sure, but those seven people probably have good reasons so I'll accept that idea as the truth.
>Now that I have a firm belief that also happens to have collective approval, I'll add another approval to it.
Visible real-time tallying of ups and downs before casting your own vote is a strong source of contamination for this process as well.

What you're saying is true and I also agree with you, to close the circuit as it were. Outside of a more formal and/or professional setting, I think having votes on comments is a negative feature that too often indicates who is right, rather than what, and is dangerously unreliable as a collective fact-checker. Giving the current implementation on Fimfiction a confidence of .9 is where I'll have to firmly dig my heels in and disagree.

I genuinely wish Knighty would remove them. I also think I might have lost focus a bit here, so apologies if any of it is irrelevant.
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>>37543983
From experience the best systems are those with only upvotes, no downvotes.
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>>37543438
wheres this from already
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>>37543972
If meat-eaters are an immediate threat, then that falls under the "genocide" category.
But otherwise, meat-eaters eat other animals. If there are no other animals, then there's nothing easy for meat-eaters.
They could try to eat us, but unless they're desperate it's easier for them to look in nature.

That's why you pour concrete. It gives monster incentive to stay in nature, because that's where the food is.
You don't want to live near the food. You get food by infrastructure, and you live in the rocks.

The way to have a safe home is to make it hard for dangerous species to survive there. You do that by cleaning.
Clean your room, anon. Keeps the bugs out.
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It's nice not to forget how we got there.
Not that we need it much anymore, now that the system is built and running.
But working systems are pretty and interesting to look at.
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>>37543983
>
This actually brings up one other way that the updoots can give inaccurate results. For an audience member who has little to no familiarity or experience with the subject, even though they may tentatively think one idea is correct or not, they don't feel comfortable enough standing up to defend that opinion if need be. So after waiting a bit, they check the number of approvals vs. disapprovals and follow the herd.
Yes, I share that concern.
The other concern I have, I think is much much more important, and it's a little harder to understand but not too much.
People vote more easily on things that they understand, rather than things they don't.
People still vote on things they don't understand, but they vote less.

So votes have the problem of bringing up things everyone agrees on.
That tends to be jokes, or repetitions of things we already know, things that aren't novel or interesting.
Too uncontroversial to be worth looking at.

That's the problem Reddit has, when you sort by Top.
Reddit gets memed on a lot, but they had some very very clever ideas.
The insight behind sorting and organizing information that they had, this is profound genius, the sort that people don't understand.

That's also what made Google and Wikipedia successful. Organizing information.

Reddit experimented with other things. Like their "Best" sorting system, that has a blend of chronological normalization/fading instead of pure votes.

These are ideas so subtle, there's billions of dollars of value hidden in plain sight.
It just looks too boring for people to stop and pay attention.
But that's all Google does. They organize information.

Anyways, broadly I think I agree with everything you said.
I just think there's a whole interesting discussion to be had about ranking information, and re-hasing it here would be very myopic if we didn't acknowledge all the clever people that built the forums we're using.

Reddit killed all the forums. There used to be plenty of them, now everyone uses subreddits. Whole world does, for any subject.

4chan still survives, and that's because Reddit is imperfect.
Because Reddit sorts uncontroversial things at the top, things that aren't interesting because they're already known and uncontroversial, by the nature of the sorting.
On 4chan, you can discuss controversial things, or interesting things that people disagree about, without the weight and innertia of popular opinion blocking you.

Most of the time, popular opinion is right. It's great for Reddit, as far as memes and fun content goes.
It's bad if you want to think about new things, or things that are hard to vote about.

When things are hard to vote about, people vote less about them, and that sorts them to the bottom.
That's the gigantic problem Reddit has, that they don't know they have.
On reddit, interesting posts get less votes than jokes, because it's less obvious they're true.

That's the problem I see with vote-sorting. It penalizes interesting things.
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>>37544205
>That's the problem I see with vote-sorting. It penalizes interesting things.
The application of it to social media has been the death of civilized discourse and nuance, aside from actual useful processes that Reddit developed. "Discussion" of something now means whoever can get the fastest, lowest common denominator hot take to ride the initial wave of favorites and likes on 160 characters or less.

Your likes are aggregated; so are your favorites, your subscribers, followers, patrons, retweets, karma - whatever makes the number increase and the green arrow light up. You're no longer trying to provide insightful or comprehensive dialogue as those take too much time to write, too much time to read, too much energy to think about, and a drastically lower ratio of likes to effort. Although this was already its own phenomenon as well, title-skimming came into wider and acceptable practice by further reducing the time and effort needed to get that first reaction posted.

Like you said, controversial and interesting things drop to the bottom. That 2% of Americans who are responsible for 80-90% of Twitter posts don't want to talk about something where they can be wrong because the risks offer an even worse payout. And if someone comes along promoting an unpopular or nuanced subject with different interpretations, they'll be better off typing out a quick "Still doing this in 2021? omg" which then sets the tone going down the chain to the majority of people following. That itself, setting the tone of discourse for a subject right off the bat, is an incredibly valuable and powerful ability

I'm just going to keep ranting so let me tie this off a bit. You know what I want to see change in comment voting? Make it opt-in by the poster and separate from the contents of the comment.
>"How about Glimmer eh? Wow! Poochy woo!"
>Comment vote: Starlight was phased in too quickly. Upvote - Downvote
Narrow down the voting to that specific idea, isolating it as much as possible from the speaker. In addition, disable being able to see the comment's score until you've cast your own vote on it, on a temporary basis or perhaps a sliding scale depending on how much attention the comment receives. Prevent herd following.

I imagine it would hit a fair amount of resistance from people used to dropping quips and derision in the absence of actual ideas, this post-modernism cancer. I would love to see it tried though.
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>>37544370
>The application of it to social media has been the death of civilized discourse and nuance, aside from actual useful processes that Reddit developed. "Discussion" of something now means whoever can get the fastest, lowest common denominator hot take to ride the initial wave of favorites and likes on 160 characters or less.
Exactly, and that's the exact criticism I have for Reddit, and for other algorithms where the exact method is hidden, but that still rank content based on input that looks like votes, or behaves like votes.
So Twitter, Facebook. Most of social media, is based on simple ideas of votes giving visibility.

That silences interesting things, and that is very wrong.
The way we organize information, nothing is more important in this world. A lot more thought should be put into that, and I should be upset every time I see a long unsorted list that people have to scroll through, or a system that has sorting but sorts the wrong things at the top.

If we cared more about these things, society as a system would be more efficient.
The right and interesting ideas would come up, more often.
I suspect the problems with disinformation — things like the flat earth — that we have, are caused by failure to sort information.

There is nothing more important in this world.

>I'm just going to keep ranting so let me tie this off a bit.
Above seems mostly uncontroversial. I broadly agree with that.

>Make it opt-in by the poster and separate from the contents of the comment.
I think that's an interesting idea. Like how fics can opt out of the review system and stay gray. Does that make for better fics, overall?
It's hard to gather data on these things, so we should look at how similar systems when you do the same sort of things to them.
But it's an interesting idea. I'd like to see that tried, too.
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>>37544405
I've enjoyed our conversation anon, thank you. I desperately need to hit the hay though so I'm going to drop off here. Have a pleasant rest of your evening!
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>>37544482
Thanks, the same to you and much love <3
It's only 3 AM here, I still have it in me to bother a few people before the LSD has fully left my system.
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>>37537887
I'm struggling to understand the need for a spaceship angle if the premise is "Twilight slowly goes crazy from isolation." There's plenty of more grounded ideas (Everfree, mountain outpost, catacombs under Canterlot, etc.) that could fit that and allow for some decent worldbuilding. As it stands, Equestria develops a space program for no real reason, in the process deciding communications aren't important (wut?), and picks Twilight because magitech. It feels like the foundation's very weak and only there to barely support the premise, when there's a lot stronger ideas out there that could accomplish it.

>>37539671
I'll probably go that route. At the very least, it'll make it sound more fantastic and less realistic.

>>37539782
>Why.
Because comic books are fanfics based on fanfics based on the original thing that was created in the 60s. They're a never ending clusterfuck.

>>37539869
Twilight > Dash > Rarity = Applejack > Fluttershy > Pinkie. Really, though, you could pretty much juggle any of them around. They all have traits that could be played up for racism.

>>37540016
>bribery and threats
I don't think that would actually get rid of the Windegos. They're there because the ponies hate each other, not because they're not unified. The ponies lived perfectly fine as separate countries for who knows how long before they "were torn apart by hatred."

>>37541125
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/nov/04/constitution.monarchy1
Looks like she just provided a witness statement corroborating his defense, causing the case to implode because the prosecutor's not going to try and cast doubt on testimony from the queen.

>>37543438
Projection: The Comment.
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>Should be planning out my next big story in detail
>Instead writing poorly conceived one-shots
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You guys are alright. Don't go near the Atlantic Ocean next week.
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>>37540783
Thanks Anon, these are excellent ideas! I'm sure I'll be able to integrate most if not all of them into the story.

>>37541153
>I give it 5/10. Heck, make that 6/10, because you went with unicorn Twilight, instead of unnecessarily featuring her as an Alicorn, which 95% of fics do. It was good enough for one read, but it just didn't have enough oomph to make me go "wow" or make me think about it too much after I finished.
Oh I love it, that reads just like the shit I usually post.
Thank you, I'm actually pretty happy with this score, last time I've tried creative writing was back in secondary school several years ago, so this is better than I've expected.
Hopefully once I make the fixed version you might like that even more.

>>37545481
>I'm struggling to understand the need for a spaceship angle if the premise is "Twilight slowly goes crazy from isolation."
I'll be honest Anon, as shallow as it might sound, I was just listening to 'Space Oddity' when I suddenly figured
>hey, wouldn't this make for a good story with ponies?
and since I was already planning on trying writing too, not just reviewing, I took this as a perfect opportunity.
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>>37541170
>You first
I already did, lurked for an entire year in 2011 prior to my highly illustrious decade-long posting career I'm dead serious, and it was time well spent. Get on my level fgt
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>>37544370
You two need to play Sons of Liberty. Still one of the most crazily ahead of its time pieces of media ever. Actual spoilers for the ending in picrel if you'd rather play it first.
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I just finished mother of learning. Take my advice. Don't read mother of learning.

Is all "rational fiction" so liberal with asspuls as this story? The last arc was legitimately awful.
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>>37546659
"rational fiction" is to writing as "people's democratic republic" is to free nations.
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>>37546679
I should have known. What was especially insulting about Mother Of Learning was that it only got bad about halfway in, and by that point I was falsely spoilered that there were alternative endings and I wanted to read the "bad ending" for a sense of schadenfreude.

I hate how Zorian is written so much, the author has him hunt down aranea without remorse only to then retcon it a couple of chapters later and saying that he felt bad. He suddenly has an issue with using mind magic to gain information and despite choosing "the moral way" suffers no consequence for this. He treats the parents that, according to the story, pretty much forced mental torture on him like minor annoyances, despite being an "emotional" teenager. He builds a fucking mecha godzilla and an ultra "fuck you I block your attack" cube in the span of a month while also keeping several clones doing other intensive things. He risks his own sister for no reason and doesn't suffer anything for it. HE FIGHTS SEVERAL BATTLES AT ONCE DESPITE HAVING LOWER THAN AVERAGE BATTLE RESERVES AND GOES TOE TO TOE WITH A POWERED UP LICH AFTER 8 YEARS OF TRAINING. AND THEN WHILE TEACHING OTHER STUDENTS AND ACTING AS AN AMBASSADOR HE MANAGES TO SEND OUT HIS COPE PACKETS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED HIM.

It's such bullshit that I was legitimately rooting for the Lich by the end of it. Zorian suddenly refuses the idea of doing "immoral" things to win, even if he is in a timeloop, but then gets help of people that are(but doesn't care) and in the end bridges the gap with deus ex machinae. It's so dumb, so stupid and I deeply regret wasting my time on it.
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>>37545481
>I'm struggling to understand the need for a spaceship angle if the premise is "Twilight slowly goes crazy from isolation." There's plenty of more grounded ideas (Everfree, mountain outpost, catacombs under Canterlot, etc.)
To be fair, a spaceship is a very special kind of isolation that you can't get anywhere else. In the Everfree, you could in theory survive indefinitely if you can protect yourself from predators and identify edible plants - Twilight's magic could conceivably help her with that. Plus it's not claustrophobic, and you can go anywhere you want, and in theory if you walk in a straight enough line eventually you'd get out. There are also critters to keep you company.
In space, you're stuck in a tin can and there is NOTHING around you. The environment outside means certain death within seconds or minutes. Breaching the tin can is the same. Control of the tin can requires extremely advanced alicorn magic that even Twilight cannot summon herself - she can only interact with the preexisting ship enchantments; if something goes wrong with those, she's doomed. There is only one way out, and that's to end the mission and use the enchantments to go home, and until she does that - or if the enchantments fail - there is nobody and nothing around her, she is stuck in this tiny space alone for days on end.

Catacombs might come close if she gets lost, but again, a powerful magic user like Twilight might have a dig spell or just be able to burst out through sheer brute force. Or maybe a pathfinding spell. Or even just a magical distress beacon. A deep sea exploration vehicle miles under the ocean is the closest thing I can think of, but even that is less isolated as going back home is much easier - you can slowly rise up to the surface, Twilight might even be able to use her own magic to power it, as opposed to a spaceship in orbit which needs an immensely powerful system to land safely.
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>>37546495
>2011
newfag
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>>37545922
big if true
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>>37546558
I did, back when it first came out. Had a much much smaller worldview at the time. Benevolent, undying AIs with total control (but from the background) would be a better outcome than anything we can do ourselves, so long as they don't decide the best future for humanity is to wipe out 90% of it, of course.

A firm hand on the rudder, but then that's really just what nearly every religion already wants or believes. Only difference would be we can make such things ourselves eventually, while a deity remains unknowable.
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On the second chapter of Sunrise and I have to admit that the tech and society level seems far above what it should be for this time period. Also anti-gay posters and discrimination lol.
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>>37547089
>Benevolent, undying AIs with total control (but from the background) would be a better outcome than anything we can do ourselves
There's the rub. Any AI would be derived from us in the first place.

To contribute a bit about the broader discussion: While it's true that the lack of a voting system allows for different ideas to be present, we've also established at the start of this that some times people really are just straight up wrong. And systems don't exist in a vacuum. So long as there are places where a voting system is in place and place where one isn't, everyone who'd get silenced in the former for good reasons will inevitably gather in the latter and skew discussions with numbers.

On the notes about the proliferation of things like flat-Earthers in modern social media, that was actually an unforseen consequence of the way SMs are built and designed. "Echo chamber" has become a bit of a buzzword recently, but it is the kind of things algorithms tend to create.

From personal experience though, in every site no matter the structure, the amount of people in a community affects its quality much more than anything else. All this discussion though is pretty baseless at the current time. The current methods of communication have evolved so fast and are so different from the old ones that we simply don't yet have the data to draw any definitive conclusions on human nature. I do agree with what Eco once said about the way the Internet gives a stage for masses of idiots to talk on and gather, when before they'd have been confined, and yet it can also be a great tool for getting ideas that would also have otherwise remained confined out to the public.
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>>37547257
>I do agree with what Eco once said about the way the Internet gives a stage for masses of idiots to talk on and gather
Or basically, everyone is given a voice regardless of if they should speak.
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>>37547157
>the tech and society level seems far above what it should be for this time period
Have you ever read DOWAS?
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>>37547300
Nope.
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>>37547285
His entire speech on the subject is a very good take imo, I could probably find it but I'm not going to translate it all. It's a very lucid reflection on the advantages and disadvantages of social media and their relation with society as a whole. It's kind of a shame that it's only that quote people usually take from it, the whole thing is better in context.
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>>37547257
>"Echo chamber" has become a bit of a buzzword recently, but it is the kind of things algorithms tend to create.
Echo chamber is when people run out anyone who disagrees; reddit downvoting dissenting opinions is an example of echo chambers. In contrast, "content bubble" is the term when an algorithm only shows you things you like to see, and I think would be the correct term for the phenomenon where conspiracy theorists are continuously fed with content that agrees with them and reinforces their beliefs, because that's what they "like" hence the algorithm shows them more and more of the same.

In practice of course the two often work in unison, where content bubbles in algorithmic content create echo chamber communities (like imagine a facebook group of flat eathers, where the algorithm keeps them all in a content bubble of self-confirmation, and they cultivate an echo chamber where anyone who tries to walk in to debate them is ridiculed out).

>and yet it can also be a great tool for getting ideas that would also have otherwise remained confined out to the public.
Like furries, for example, which existed for decades but were never able to truly organise let alone recruit.
Or then again ponies, for that matter.
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>>37547157
Sunrise is pretty much an AU pre-Equestrian era, the author just didn't tag it as such.
>Also anti-gay posters and discrimination lol.
That will actually be important later on in the story, but despite that, the author didn't go full retard with the PC theme, so kudos to him. Spoilers: Luna has the gays.
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>>37547618
>spoiler
How is that different from canon?
>>37547466
>furries
I was thinking more along the lines of independent creators at large, and the higher level of difficulty in maintaining secrecy (it's a lot easier to know about modern concentration camps than it was the old ones). Furries work too though, they're no longer forced to memetically spread through Disney movies.
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>>37547618
>spoiler
Where, in a dungeon? Sounds based
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>>37547157
>>37547618
Link this story, anon? I'm mildly curious about this, as adventure-ey stuff is my shit.
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>>37548145
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/498024/sunrise
Here you go anon.
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Why do the furries always pretend like their rape stories aren't rape? Dubious consent and hypnosis sounds an awful like rape to me. And lately it seems every other clopfic that gets uploaded is either anthro, or some fucked up fetish with either literal shit or literal rape, but they use fluffy words to try and pretend its not those things. And if its not the main six acting nothing like the main six, its some OC named larry who lives in some shitty ponified generic city, who drives a car, and watches cable tv while searching the internet. Like for fucks sake, how to people not see that this is blatantly furry with the thinnest coating of pony just to get passed the mods?
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Why is it easier to write porn than to write a story?
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>>37548268
Because with porn you already know the climax and resolution.
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>>37548268
The readers don't know enough about the topic to criticize it.
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>>37548285
boooo
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>>37548205
>Why do the furries always pretend like their rape stories aren't rape?
I may be a furry (I'm not for fuck's sake, I'm a sclaie, it's different) but when I write rape I make damn sure to make it clear it's rape. It's half the fun of it. Though specifically
>dubcon
It's only rape if you press charges though. Anytime two drunk people have sex it's legally dubcon, doesn't mean it's always rape. Mind control can also be consensual.
But the noncon stuff is more fun.
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>>37548464
>Furry has excused for rape
literally what he just said
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>>37548205
Because porn doesn't involve any real people getting hurt, so if you think it's hot to force someone into a sexual situation where they're uncomfortable but ultimately they come to love it and are thankful for the experience - IRL that would be a fucking minefield, but when writing porn to get your rocks off, you can easily just say "and then they kissed and said they love each other very much and lived happily ever after".
Actual non-con rape is a somewhat more extreme fetish. And when, as a writer, you have full and absolute control over the psyche of your characters, you can actually pull off dubcon reliably - the issue with dubcon in real life is that, because it's dubious by definition, it may turn out that "actually, there was no con". In writing, you can make dubcon where it 100% reliably turns into "yeah, there was con after all".

Also I would say that proper hypnosis isn't rape, but 90% of hypnosis porn is actually just mind control porn, so you're actually probably right on that count.

>>37548464
>(I'm not for fuck's sake, I'm a sclaie, it's different)
I'm very curious now. Pony is obviously different from furry just because the communities have nothing in common, it developed completely separately, and even the interests are different (furry is specifically about anthro animals, and while "feral" exists as a niche sub-interst in furry that also overlaps with zoos, ponies are 100% quadrupedal xenophilia). But scalies are also about anthro animals, and as far as I'm aware scalies also don't have any sort of franchise and are just a catch-all term for people who fap to a specific thing, just like furries. I have always considered them a subset of furries, and as far as I know scalies are essentially an offshoot of furries (again, unlike ponies whose fandom developed independently and in parallel, without furry contact).
So on what grounds do you consider scalie separate from furry?
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>>37548585
I don't need an excuse besides 'it makes my dick hard'. Now go back to complaining about how violent videogames cause mass shootings.
>>37548707
On the ground that if I could get my skin ripped pff an replaced with something else I'd get scales and not fur. But I actually prefer jerking it to furry content. The scalie part is about inserting as a character. I'll take a sexy solo furry drawing over a sexy solo scalie drawing, but I'll take a scalie domming a furry over another furry doing the same.
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>>37548755
That wiki page is super vague.
Honestly, this is what I really don't like in the whole furry phenomenon. They simply have to "claim" and assimilate everything even though a sizeable chunk of horsefuckers don't want to be associated with that fandom.
Recently my powerlevel got revealed among a group of my friends and the furries immediately jumped in saying
>well you know that makes you a furry too
No, it fucking doesn't.
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Furries think liking pone makes people furries, is like saying people who like star wars are trekkies.
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>>37548828
You're welcome to this whole discussion on the topic,
https://forums.escapistmagazine.com/threads/am-i-a-furry-also-whats-the-difference-between-a-xenophile-and-furry.143595/
including the application of the furry label to people who don't like it
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>>37548900
I'm labling you as a nigger. It doesn't matter if you don't self identify as a nigger, you're still a nigger.
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>>37548828
You don't get to decide, anon. To rebuke >>37548894, what it would actually be like is saying "I like Star Trek but I don't like sci-fi". It doesn't matter that you don't like the term (for whatever retarded reason), it still applies to you.
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>>37548972
literally ignoring the point.

"I like star wars, not star trek" "Doesn't matter, still a trekkie"
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>>37548978
But pony is not separate from furry. Furry is an abstract concept that manifests in different forms and media. Furry is the idea, MLP/Lion King/Robin Hood/Helluva Boss is the manifestation. Furry "has no fandom" because furry is the matrix of furry fandoms, the fluid they are suspended in, unbound by restrictions, generating and influences new specific forms of content without being constrained in them. Furry is one of the great powers that shape media. Its lack of unity is not a mark of weakness, but one of strength, a symbol of its ascended state.
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>>37548707
>Because porn doesn't involve any real people getting hurt,
You might want to let the moral crusaders on the site know that.
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>>37548972
Even if your comparison was accurate, that defeats your own point. "I like Star Trek but I don't like sci-fi" is a perfectly valid point of view. "I like sci-fi" means that someone could show you a random sci-fi work and you would probably enjoy it, if it's good. "I hate sci-fi" means if someone shows you a random sci-fi work, and even if it's good, you would probably not enjoy it just because it's sci-fi and you hate sci-fi. You might still like Star Treck for whatever reason as the single exception.
Claiming everyone who likes Star Treck must therefore be a fan of sci-fi in general is retarded.

Of course the entire comparison is retarded as the other anon mentioned, so don't bother pointing out that "most people who like star trek also like sci-fi".
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>>37548900
>Alicorn flag is mentally ill
I mean, is anyone REALLY surprised?
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>>37549008
>I consooom a sci-fi product made by sci-fi enjoyers to convert people into sci-fi enjoyers and feed other sci-fi enjoyers
>b-b-b-but I'm not one of them!! I don't like sci-fi reeeee!!!
You're a slave to the system, anon, like it or not. You cannot escape labels, as they are above you. Stop fighting.
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>>37549024
cretinous faggot
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>>37549001
whatever you have to tell yourself to live with knowing you'll always be a nigger.
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>>37549024
>You cannot escape labels, as they are above you. Stop fighting.
Literally how a nigger thinks. Forcing their labels onto someone else. Imagine the hypocrisy of forcing labels onto other people but unable to accept that they themselves are a literal shit gargling, diaper wearing, piss drinking faggot.
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>>37549095
Take your meds
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>>37549095
I'm not into scat, diapers, or watersports. I'm into mares and stallions.
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Putting aside the screeching for a moment: What good adventure stories have you been reading lately, /fimfic/? What do you like about them? Or - if not adventure stories - are there others who've given you a similar good feeling lately?
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>>37549332
I've been reading a fascinating six-year accounting of the dangers of trying to force yourself to fit into places you don't belong.
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>>37549332
Well I've been reading https://www.fimfiction.net/story/334887/camaraderie-is-sorcery which is a mostly episode-by-episode retelling of FiM in a dark fantasy world heavily inspired by The Witcher and ASOIAF and I've been enjoying it.

For another mature take on FiM there's the Extended Cut series starting with https://www.fimfiction.net/story/439970/friendship-is-magic-extended-cut in which Twilight acts like an actual scientist and Spike isn't worthless or annoying.
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>>37549375
What is:
>ASOIAF
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>>37549393
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=asoiaf
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>>37549396
No, get bent. What is:
>ASOIAF
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>>37549412
A Song of Ice and Fire.
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>>37549396
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>>37549418
Thanks.
>>37549423
Heh
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>>37549332
Sunrise, obviously.

Also Forbidden Places. It's nice to have Kaelynn and Ryan doing interesting things again - they're by far the most interesting characters of the bunch. Though the setup for the current situation makes me ANGERY. And I also have to question the decision to have all four POV characters in Equestria when weird shit is happening on Earth, namely Janet and Galena speaking in tongues

>>37549418
I'm sorry, but the correct reply was in fact NO U
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>>37547157
>>37547618
>anti-gay posters and discrimination lol
Is there a reason given for the lovecraftian nightmare hating the gays? Seems like the more souls the merrier.

>>37548205
>always pretend
Everyone wants their fetishes normalized. That's why characters react nonchalantly, curiously, aroused, etc. when fetish shit happens in fics, even though a "normal" reaction would either be recoiling in horror and fleeing or immediately trying to help the victim.

>>37548828
If it has animated animals in it, it will draw in furries. I'm still amused at the denial the board has over MLP being furry despite meeting most definitions. It's won seven Ursa Major Awards, so there's clearly something about it that attracts furries.

>>37549332
None. I'm waiting for Sunrise, that cyberpunk one anon was shilling a few threads back, and Primrose to finish before I read them.

>>37549393
One of the most well known deadfics in the world.
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>>37549375
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/334887/camaraderie-is-sorcery
Sounds interesting, but what the hell is this chapter numbering?
>Chapter 1:13
>Chapter 1:13.1
>Chapter 1:14
>Chapter 0:5
>Chapter 1:15
Those are five consecutive chapters
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>>37549646
>Is there a reason given for the lovecraftian nightmare hating the gays? Seems like the more souls the merrier.
If you look at religions, most gods seem to hate the gays. Or at least want to punish them for being gay.
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>>37549646
>lovecraftian nightmare
What lovecraftian nightmare? Are you thinking of a different fic? In this one it's the Unicornian government that hates the gays.
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>>37549649
So 1:13.1 is a side chapter that follows up immediately after 1:13 and 0:5 is a chapter that takes place prior to the first episode chronologically. And THEN there's three sidestories to be read between the seasons too.
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>>37549095
Extremely and exceptionally based
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>>37549332
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/401018/the-ties-that-bind
It's an AU were cultists tried to kidnap Twilight as a filly. She has a magic surge and teleports herself to the other side of Equestria. Plot contrivances happen and she meets Sunset and Trixie along with pony Gandalf. Now he's teaching them magic and taking them to Canterlot to see what happened to Twilight's parents. So far it's pretty good hope it updates soon.
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>>37549934
>270,000 words
>incomplete
Why do writers do this
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>>37549948
Could be worse. The author could have "OFFLINE last seen 201X" under their name.
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>>37549999
God I know that feel.
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>>37549999
Even worse, last update, 2014, last online : online now.
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>>37550106
Damn, dude, why are you swinging at Skirts like that? You know he hangs around here.
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>>37550106
>>37550228
That's a Re:Harmony thing too.
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>>37550106

I have so many stories in my favorites that have met that fate. Thousands, literally thousands of em. And only about... Five are actively updating. The real promising stuff fizzled out long ago.

Like this one for instance.

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/256252/memoirs-of-a-magic-earth-pony

Before we saw Star Swirl in canon, it was out in the open as to what his origins were. It was a nice fic, diving into the psyche of an underdog where unicorns dominated.

Alas, it perished like so many others. But I enjoy what little is there, seeing as there is barely anything else I can enjoy from this fandom these days. I am either scraping the bottom of the barrel or going back into the archives in hopes I find something I like.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the first few pages of the Longest Stories section is about 90% cringe and autism.
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>>37548707
>Actual non-con rape is a somewhat more extreme fetish.
A damned shame, too.
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>>37549999
>>37550106
>>37550228
Samezaid.
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>>37550912
rude...
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>>37550912
Two out of three ain't bad, Skirtsy. And while I have you here I got a question for ya.
blue harvest resurrection when? I liked the fluffy romance shit.
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>>37550106
I've seen so many of those faggot authors
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>>37550955
There ya go, Zaid
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>>37551127
>aria blaze
ew nohooves
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>>37551127
>Skirts necromancied a dead alt and posted a shitpost fic for me
As a /u/fag, I'd have preferred some more lesbians in a more serious fic, but this is the highlight of my past couple months.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/157612/twilight-makes-first-contact

Can we start pressuring this guy to finish his story?
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>>37551320
>>37537756 anon, work your magic!
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>>37537756
link?
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>>37551409
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/20617/twilights-misadventures-and-apologies-to-the-readers
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Someone post complaining about my own unfinished fics, maybe the thread's necromagic will posses me and make me finish them.
If not I promise it'll all be done within the next 15 years.
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>>37551940
I can't do that if I don't know what it is.
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>>37551940
it's all of them. all the unfinished fics. the collective unconscious of fimfiction has gained sentience and has decided to shitpost.
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>>37552121
How long until AI can be used to finish a fic?
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>>37552121
>>37551953
also i need glasses and can't see where i'm clicking.
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Well, https://www.fimfiction.net/story/486744/the-good-the-bad-and-the-unfriendly is finally complete. What a damn fun Western. Thank you MagicS for writing this story.
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>>37552126
kek
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>>37552176
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I know you said you were kind of hoping for a different sort of duel with Luna also showing off crazy skills? Or maybe that was someone else. But anyways, I always wanted to keep the gun play moderately realistic aside from Celestia, who even admits that she's able to do things that people normally shouldn't be able to. That's why you've got moments like Applejack and Sunny Flare firing at each other from less than twenty feet away and almost missing all their shots in their haste. Celestia was basically supposed to be like the Buster Scruggs of the story in skill, whereas everyone else worked by real world logic and physics. I wanted to make that clear even early on with how Spitfire and Applejack both remark on the impossibility of shooting your way out of a situation when you're outnumbered more than a few to one.
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>>37552298
Yeah I was figuring that Luna also had some crazy skills being sisters and all and after Applejack shot the one gun out of Luna's hand I was expecting Celestia to shoot the other out of her hand too rather than kill her.
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>>37552322
I was kind of going back and forth on that myself.
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>>37552413
I could tell from Celestia's inner turmoil and the memory of the good times. It could have gone either way and still be satisfying in my opinion.
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Are there any good nonlethal gore stories? Like Twilight Kills herself a Lot?

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/201562/twilight-kills-herself-a-lot
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>>37552588
You know, it's weird. I love tragedy and drama fics, I find the hardships characters face and (sometimes fail to) overcome to be fascinating, even when it's fairly dark stuff. But whenever self-harm or similar comes up, I just feel my skin crawl.
Maybe I'm just squeamish, but reading about suicide by hanging just makes makes my throat lock up and reading about characters cutting themselves makes my wrists itch.
And what makes it even more vexing is that I've never even fantasized about hurting myself, let alone actually do anything like that, so I'm not sure what causes such a visceral reaction.
Anyone ever felt similar?
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>>37552726
Anon has empathy.
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>>37552726
Try this story, its nothing like that. Its actually quite a fun read.
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>>37552726
Yeah see >>37552728
On a website full of autists, schizoids, and just plain edgelords, I can understand how it would stand out
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>>37552726
Revulsion about self mutilation is pretty normal. Congrats on not having a mental illness.
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>>37543772
>My response is that you should envy and feel happy about every part of your life.
Funniest shit I've read all day.
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>>37552728
>>37552963
>>37552988
I guess now I feel a bit silly. Yeah, I don't have any mental illness I know of. You just never really talk about shit like this with normal people so I wasn't sure if this is common or not.
Thanks Anons
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>>37546659
Is that even a fimfic? I've heard bits and pieces about it, but it rarely gets a mention outside of dedicated rationalfic communities. I've never been tempted to read it.

>asspuls
One would hope that these fics are written with the goal of avoiding such things, but I can see how that value may conflict with their desire to show their ideology winning out via their protagonist (who must therefore become overpowered).
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I'm going to add "Thaums" and any mention of thaumaturgy etc. as a measurement for magic to my list of pet peeves for mlp fics. Not a dig at Sunrise specifically, I'm just tired of seeing it.
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>>37548205
Because I want to believe that I can get laid without all the hassle of getting it properly or the trouble of getting it improperly. Dubcon is a sweet spot. The only other ways to get there are to aim for "noncon but they didn't realise" (e.g. magic or shit like chloroform, which, as I hate to be reminded, can apparently be made from common household chemicals) or "noncon but they aren't mentally capable of realising" (e.g. animals or children). Obviously, NONE of these options are even remotely acceptable, so you must aim for dubcon.
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>>37552176
Did it ever use that "Sun of a Gun" joke?
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>>37553163
I don't think so.
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>>37552728
Can confirm. I wish that I was more like anon. I'd enjoy porn more.
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>>37553088
Chloroform irl doesn't knock you out anywhere close to the way fiction and media portray it. Also just jerk it to legitimate noncon, bro. Corruption and mind break are top tier fetishes.
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>>37553219
How did you discover that?
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>>37553238
he had his manservant filing his nails and could still feel the rasp.
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>>37553238
Friends with a chemist (and took some chemistry myself before going to Uni).
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>>37553056
>thaumo- used as a prefix
Retard question, but what it actually means? I know it's some medical term, but I also read it about a dozen times in the magical context in Sunrise.
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>>37553546
It's in other fics too, people basically use it as a measurement term for magic or to give it a scientific angle. Thaumaturgy is just some bullshit word basically meaning magic or miracle working, it's in D&D and Discworld and other shit too.
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>>37553557
The "bullshit made up word" was my first guess too, but thanks for clarifying, anon.
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>>37553570
It's from the ancient greek "thauma", meaning "miracle" or "marvel", something that a 5 second web search would have turned up.
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>>37549675
Sorry, got my fics crossed. I was thinking of the "eldrich abomination overthrows the princesses a thousand years ago and now they've come back" one. That being the case, it sounds even more retarded. It better be "we need more unicorns to throw at the sun so no gays."
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Bumpin' with a request for something different for a change.
Give me some trash fics. I wanna go diving in FiMFic's worst dumpster.
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>>37555066
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/29277/king-of-equestria
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Finally wrote something today. Didn't make any actual progress because I deleted stuff and rewrote it, but the rewrites are at least better and more concise.
How can you tell if you're using a word too much? I keep coming to a word and thinking "wait I used that last chapter, am I being too samey?" and then freezing up as I deliberate on it. I'm talking about specific verbs/adjectives, like if I use "clamber" multiple chapters in a row when saying a character is moving. I know it's bad to overuse a thesaurus but I don't know how you can determine where the happy balance is.
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>>37555198
You need someone who hasn't just written it to give it a look and see if it stands out to them. This could be a prereader, or it could be you in a week.

For common words it's good to avoid conspicuous repetition in quick succession, but for more unusual words that really stand out ("clamber" would stand out to me), they should be used correspondingly less often. But there's no mathematical law that can be rigorously checked against or something - someone impartial has to judge it.
And of course there are exceptions, when you might want to intentionally use an unusual word more than normal to build up a specific atmosphere or something. For instance, if you use "antediluvian" two chapters in a row, readers will definitely notice that, but if you're trying to evoke a Lovecraftian feel in your writing then you WANT them to notice it and associate it. Or another example might be if you associate an unusual adjective with a particular character or location or something - like an unusual colour name; it'd be odd if you randomly described random mundane objects as "ochre", but if there's some plot-relevant mcguffin, you could subtly draw attention to its importance by regularly describing it as ochre. It's an unusual enough colour name that the reader will quickly associate "ochre" with "important for the plot". And then if you have your ochre mcguffin and your adventurers reach an ochre receptacle deep in a dungeon, the reader will likely immediately make the connection themselves, whereas otherwise you'd have to explicitly spell out how the receptacle "matches the shape" of the mcguffin or something.
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>>37555232
>But there's no mathematical law that can be rigorously checked against or something
Funnily enough, there is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law
They made a big table of how often each word appears, and it turns out no matter what you do, average normal sounding text always follows this law.
If you use a few rare words again and again, it's not a huge deal but a few people will notice
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>>37555240
Oh, that's neat, I didn't know about that.
Still, my point still stands. Zipf's law is about average frequency in a large corpus. While you could derive an "average correct distance" between uses of a rare word, ultimately I maintain that a human would still be able to judge better, depending on things like context and general prose. For example, a work with really simple and straightforward prose and a single rare word used at the limit distance to obey Zipf's law might still be noticeable; and conversely, a work which adopts a more pompous or perhaps archaic style (think Tolkien style prose) could get away with using rare words much more often without it being really noticeable because the entire prose just uses slightly rarer and more unusual words than average.
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>>37555265
Oh yeah, definitely. Can't replace editors and prereaders with machines just yet.
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Thoughts on The Primrose War?
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Knowledge is acknowledging that FiM was lighting in a bottle.
Wisdom is knowing the bottle was you.
Find your Sparkle.
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>>37555408
I do like Twilight, so I hope at least one of my stories involving her pops off.
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>>37555072
Wow. Five pages of self-important tryhards, with half a page of people who know not to take it seriously. That's impressive, it kept people going nuts from 2012 up through January of 2021.
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Fimfiction mods
I know you lurk the thread
Add the G5 tag
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Fimfiction mods
I know you lurk the thread
Auto-reject the G5 tag
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Hey fiction writers, do you feel replaced yet? >>37554291
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>>37553022
No, but it's impossible to discuss individual works on the /lit/ writing thread. Continue not being tempted.
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>see what looks like an actually interesting premise for porn
>wow, looks like something that will actually be enjoyable to read for its own sake!
>it's by Bendy
every FUCKING time holy shit nigger
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>alright let's take a look at the feature box today
>Mark Star is Equestria handyman extraordinary as well as the only human who single handle changed the course of history with one single question, resulting in an unexpected and sexy timeline. A 'what if' story
>166k words, Sex/Fetish/Anthro
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Somepony bake the bread.
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>>37556020
I'll bake ur waifu
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>>37556020
I'll do it.
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>>37556090
>>37556090
>>37556090
>>37556090
>>37556090
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>>37555697
you just got BENT kek



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