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ITT: "anon gets mad (for no reason)," the usual drama, anons fervently debate economic theory, writing NMM is hard, we get it, you were featured, bro, spooky fics, whither the dream sequence?, anon wants to know what makes you keep reading, anon gives a continuing review of Empty Horizons, more spooky fics, the gang discusses the proper colors of tags, anons's bucking upset, rareanon breaks character, maybe, and the gang discusses what the numbers mean, mason.


FiMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):
Winners:
http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png

List of Reviews made by the Anons in this thread:
http://www.mlpficreviews.org.uk
Use the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.

>How do I write fanfiction?
Ezn’s guide - https://eznguide.neocities.org/
Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4f
Horse Behaviour - https://www.equestrianandhorse.com/equus/behaviour.html
Setting a story in motion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO8LbwTdu0 [Embed] [Embed]
Taking criticism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4R2ZcxPlA [Embed] [Embed]

>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs with comments enabled and give us a link.

>Reviews and riffs that are likely not up anymore:
https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakura
https://pastebin.com/wmGX7FPm
http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/tack.html
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeU
https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/4/2/2312216.jpg
https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/

>Voiceguy's archive:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-VuBo5xPdifNsnXXGGySudMIgnVLvLQI
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>>37080322
Where are the spooky fics?
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>>37080336
I keep them in my spooky attic.
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>>37080346
Can I go to your spooky attic and see them?
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>>37080358
Sure.
Just be sure to bring spooky snacks.
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>>37080322
>>37042684
I've been getting new fics to consoom from the archive of the Write-Off Associations (pic related) I'd look at the winners of each mini contest, see what those fics were about, and read them if I liked the concept.
Thing is only a couple have been truly good, out of... a LOT that I've read.
So yeah. Anybody got recommendations for fics that follow these parameters?
>no fics where every character is an OC
I'd prefer no OCs at all but I can tolerate them if there's also a lot of Mane6/other FiM characters

>no tryhard writing
There are SO MANY FICS where the writing is extremely convoluted for no reason, it's just a pain to read. It's actually shocking how many fics I've read that have that kind of ultra tryhard writing while also being full of spelling mistakes.

>not super long
This is not a hard rule, but I'd rather avoid gigantic sagas like Fallout Equestria.

Basically mane6 focus, no tryhard writing, and possibly not extremely long. I don't think I'm being too picky, right? Now FEED ME your best fics, anons
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Despite how many years it has been since I first saw it and how many times I have watched it it did not occur to me that Rainbow Dash Presents The Star in Yellow was based off a preexisting story. I will have to read that now and see how it compares to the video.
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>>37080541
The original short-version Archetypist
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>>37080672
Shit, the one in the writeoff archive isn't available, the only one I could find is in fimfiction and I'm assuming since it's 52k words it's the longer version
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>>37080541
iunno bro, I read exclusively bad fics and write worse ones.

Honestly? Best thing I've read from a contest is this one. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/467896/kill-it-with-fire
Two characters that usually aren't very good done in a very cute and very fun way. Good stuff.
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>>37080672
Man, that short story was so good.
I wonder what went through Gardez's mind.
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>>37080672
>>37080765
You guys know where I can get the original Archetypist?
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>>37080776
The original version probably just exists in Gardez's bin.
I tried the Wayback machine, but it doesn't seem to have the page of the original story.
So I just have the vague memories in my mind.
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>>37080815
Damn that's a shame. What does the long version change?
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By the way >>37080541 here, I want to recommend a fic of my own:
The Price of a Smile, by TrickQuestion. Had me on edge the entire time, I hadn't been so immersed into something in a very long time.
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Hey I need recommendations for the writefag panel at /mlp/con.

See this crosspost >>37079206

Genres are:

Adventure
Comedy
Dark
Drama
Horror
Mystery
Random
Romance
Sad
Sci-Fi
Slice of Life
Thriller
Tragedy

Greentexts can be any genre.

Thanks.
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>>37080817
Tons of things.
I'm going off my memory of reading the one-shot all those years ago, so bear with me.
The original one-shot was just under 8k words, which made the story feel like an accelerating deathspiral into insanity, where the ending hit you with the force of a freight train.
The long story is over 50k words and follows more or less the same structure, but in taking the longer and slower route without actually going deeper, it gives time for all kinds of questions to pop up, and that works agains the nature of the story.
So, in case you haven't read it, the super short of it is that Discord changes something in reality that directly affects the minds of every pony in Equestria. Note that I said "pony", I'll get to that later.
In the original, there's this sense of things getting progressively worse every few paragraphs, and it really feels like a trainwreck you can't look away from.
In the latter you're following Twilight as she witnesses all these changes in the ponies she loves and nobody thinks it's weird some are doing 180°s on their personalities and all these questions and plot holes start popping up.
Something curious about both versions is that Discord has more or less the same amount of scenes and dialogue. A thousand words out of eight thousand is not the same as one thousand words out of fifty thousand, and considering his part was the only one that didn't change at all, it just highlights all the shortcomings of the story.
Overall, the long version is just an inferior, less thought out version of the original.
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>>37080926
That sucks, but I don't have a choice so I'll read that one.
Here's an anti-recommendation: Background Pony. I picked it because I've seen it in some lists of favorites and holy shit it's impossible to read. Extremely verbose for no reason, tons of metaphors and other poetic shit that's just cringeworthy to read, a single scene can last ten pages because of it.
Apparently the story is great but I couldn't go deeper than the first two chapters.
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Are there any recent stories of the same quality as the classics like Best Of All Possible Worlds?
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>>37080935
To be fair, the story is still well written, and while I was reading it, I had a good time.
I just feel I have to say this right now.
Most questions will never be answered. Why did certain characters never acted upon what was happening? Who knows? Where was this character through all of this? Not his story, don't ask. Did Gardez know that the two meanings of the word "dream" are not interchangeable? Look at this really cool sequence instead.
Oh. and despite what Gardez himself says, the ending is not a happy one.
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>>37080935
you can replace 90% of BP with the phrase Lyra Suffers", repeated over and over again, and have about the same result.
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>>37080983
Thanks for the presentation anon, you did a great job and I'm reading Archetypist tonight
>>37080986
Yep that's what I got from it
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>>37080322
>>Reviews and riffs that are likely not up anymore:
This list seems longer now.
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>>37080983
>have to continually suffer with the curse as Lyra doesn't want to undo all the things she's done even though she'd be able to redo most of them
How the fuck can anyone, even the author, think that's a 'happy' ending?
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>>37080903
You should really mention that you're only going to read the first 1000 words for the stream. That's what makes the question interesting. Finding a good adventure is not that hard, but adventure fics tend to have 5k prologues and such. Finding an adventure that actually does something interesting in the first 1k words is more of a challenge.

Here's one that could work:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/331376/treasures
It starts off with a little dream sequence that introduces young Daring and her family as she tries to sail a pirate ship off on some grand adventure. 1025 words, ending with
>And in a few fitful bursts, and not without some counterproductive mental struggling, Daring Do woke up in her father’s travelling wagon.
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>>37081001
Different fic. Archetypist is the one where Gardez tried to spin the M6 all going their separate ways in pursuit of extreme individualism as a good end
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>>37080994
It's pretty much the same length as it's been for the last few threads
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>>37081034
How the fuck do you spin the abolition of friendship in a FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC story??? How far up your own ass does your head have to be???
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>>37081056
Not to mention that they only did that because Discord messed with their brains.
So I guess the moral is that you should make life-changing decisions while mentally impaired.
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>>37081056
I have not read the story, but clearly neither have you. If you absolutely need to sperg out about something, at least read it first. Otherwise make a Twitter and leave the thread better off.
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>>37081072
Is this his only fic like this because I hear people dickriding Gardez constantly

>>37081074
glkglkglk gardez cock so gooood
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>>37081112
As far as I know, yeah. I've enjoyed nearly every other story Gardez has made. Still not sure what happened with Archetypist, part of me wants to blame his editors, but only he would know for sure.
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>>37081019
I like the idea of this, but I've already had two people recommend It's A Dangerous Business, so unless two other people want to recommend this one, I gotta go with what has more votes + what was suggested first.

The point is not to pick the best fic ever for that genre. Just any fic will do, and I will comment on how good it is as that genre.
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>>37081203
You should still read It's A Dangerous Business, it's one of the earliest fanfics that wasn't trash which is why people recall it so fondly.
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>>37081219
Yeah I like how it begins in the first 1,000 words because I can do all the mares' voices, which is always fun!
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>>37081112
I haven’t read a single gardez fic, but sure, make yourself angry for no reason. Just do it somewhere else.
I’m >>37081074 not >>37081126 btw
we have too many damn pinkies in this thread
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>>37078629
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/36375891/#36386421
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/16375/sharing-the-night
In a way, it's trash because of the unexpected way it turned out to be bad, as opposed to being obviously on its face strictly autistic naruto fantasy.
Luna starts off the story as the most obnoxious impossibly non-functional angsty teen personality because she feels like the night was stolen from her.
Then she does an abrupt 180 and forces Twilight to become the princess of Ponyville complete with palace. Twilight, in turn, is resentful of this being forced on her and turns mean.
I dropped the story when Twilight starts turning all of her friends into alicorns, most of them against their will. In particular, when one of them (Applejack) asks her why she's doing it despite her refusal, Twilight says she's just doing it because (no reason).
I understand that later on Twilight turns into a Nightmare sort of thing.

I really liked the "ancient history" arc of pre-diarchy alicorn civilization though. Would definitely read more about that sort of thing, but I assume there isn't more of it to be found from the author.
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>>37081509
Sharing the Night was pretty fine half-way through but did take a stupid turn. Sharing the Nation is better (for now). The shenanigans of having two Celestias is pretty amusing.
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>>37081525
Why are there two Celestias?
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>>37081852
During 'Sharing the Night' Celestia wants to make another alicorn out of the remnants of Harmony so that she'd have an immortal partner. Discord got a similar idea and already put his essence into Harmony, and when Celestia tried to do the same she accidentally merged her essence with Discord's and the result was two Celestias. It leads into the events of Sharing the Nation since Discord had strong dragon magic in his being.
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>A Witch in Broad Daylight
Adventure, Horror, Alt. Universe, Twilight, Rainbow Dash? Great. Interesting and promising setting? Wonderful.

I had high hopes but the fic is really trashy. There are some genuinely good ideas and funny moments but most of it is just stupid. The story is pretty nonsensical and just tries to be entertaining. It accomplishes this somewhat.

The author sacrifices characterization for questionable comedy. Some of it is actually funny and made me laugh. But most of it is low effort or meta humor and references that you have to be into to actually enjoy. For example Fluttershy is almost 69 years old. Get it? 69 is the funny number! Yeah, I'd rather have some good characters. Because none of them are remotely likable and I didn't care for any of them. They're shallow exaggerated caricatures. The plot is pretty basic. Here the meta humor actually does a service and helps make it less stupid than it could have been.

I have no idea why this story has a horror tag. Just because it has zombies and ghosts doesn't mean it was ever spooky. I also didn't like the frequent political commentary because most of it was pretty dumb as well.

To sum it up, this fic's kind of like fast food. Easy to read. There's always something going on so it doesn't get too boring. But it's forgettable and unambitious.
It's a reminder why I prefer serious and ambitious works. Not sure why people like this story so much.
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>>37082341
>The story is pretty nonsensical and just tries to be entertaining. It accomplishes this somewhat.
Sounds like my writing. Also reminds me of Knights of the Realm a bit.

To sum it up, this fic's kind of like fast food. Easy to read. There's always something going on so it doesn't get too boring. But it's forgettable and unambitious.
Okay, that definitely sounds like something I would write now.
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>>37082341
You gotta actually calculate how old Fluttershy is yourself for that to even come up and no one ever mentions she's 69 years old. It's a bit disingenuous to use that as the example of the humor when it's not even something most people would notice.
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>>37082341
>Not sure why people like this story so much.
Its a funny kinda light-hearted story with some entertaining horror parodies and references. Its writing style and world tone kinda reminds me of billy and mandy which is another plus.
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>>37082341
>>37082395
Also If your looking for a more serious kind of horror adventure I just finished https://www.fimfiction.net/story/413755/life-is-magic and it was pretty good. It starts strong as a straight lovecraftian horror story, but kinda stumbles half-way through as it tries to transition towards a more of a dark adventure story. It really drags until the climax were the author manages to turn things around and switch fully into a proper adventure story with lovecraft elements. This carries on to the sequel as well so far, which the author stated will be more action oriented.
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>>37080322
Could you guys give this general an abbreviation like all normal creatures? Something like /fimfg/ or whatever, make it up yourselves, just have it so I can have these generals always on top.
Just putting "fimfiction" in the filter puts like 10 other threads up before this one, come on fellas
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>>37083119
I vote for just calling it /FiM/
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>>37083119
>>37083122
/PFF/ - Pony FanFic
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looks like knighty pulled out of his depression
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/951707/shared-without-comment
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>>37083128
>>37083122
you gotta have a "g" at the end for "general" bros
How's /ffg/? Just fanfiction general
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>>37083129
>he's re-ponying the site
Sick
Let's hope it's actually implemented soon
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Weird question: does anyone remember seeing chopsticks in the show? I'm writing a scene where a magic-less Rares fails repeatedly to use them, but I'm going to feel like a goober if one of the comment section Oprichniki hits me with the "um aktually" and I didn't put in some sort of a recognition in the authoor's note.
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>>37083152
I don't recall them in the show, but there was this from the manga.
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>>37083129
>That gorgeous black and green colour scheme
>All that pony imagery
Jesus Christ I'm hard as a ROCK.
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>>37083152
>Oprichniki
Oh I am stealing that.
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>>37083129
Holy fuck, seems like soul is back on the menu. It has only been, like, 6 years?
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>>37083129
>>37083267
Jesus Christ if I can browse the site now and actually be presented with PONY CONTENT instead of the endless stream of off-topic garbage, that would blow my mind.
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>>37083295
I'm still hoping blocking users gets the option to extend to their blog entries, comments and stories. I'd love to be able to filter out all those drama faggots who don't bother to talk about actual pony on a fucking pony fanfiction site. Letting you block certain tags from showing up in the feature box or even at all on your account would be appreciated as well.
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>>37083311
That's one of the things he's promised with the search updates he's said he's working on. Blocking a user will block their stories at the very least.
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>>37083119
>>37083122
>>37083128
It's always been referred to as /fimfic/ unofficially, even though we don't usually put this in the subject.
I don't see the harm in adding it to aid in filtering/sorting.

>>37083130
This isn't the fimfiction general though, this is the fimfiction thread.
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>>37083119
Scroll through the catalog like all normal Anons, you damn nigger. Subhumans like you is the reason the board is dead.
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>>37083331
Really now. Do elaborate, let's see where you're going with this, IF you're going anywhere, you gigantic faggot
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>>37083323
>This isn't the fimfiction general though, this is the fimfiction thread
A rose by any other name
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>>37083345
Well yes, but we're specifically discussing names here
If I have a rose by some other name, and you say "let's abbreviate it 'r.' for rose", then that's wrong because we're using another name here
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>>37082439
Thanks, will check it out.

>>37082387
>It's a bit disingenuous to use that as the example of the humor
Talking about humor is hard because it's subjective. I used that because it's a clear example and also shows that there's some attention to detail, which is a plus.
For example, is Radiant Blade funny with his destiny or his miracle of being a married bachelor? Or are incel ghosts funny? I don't know. I thought these were a little bit amusing but not very.
>most of it is low effort or meta humor and references that you have to be into to actually enjoy
Was I wrong with this?
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>>37083342
>Do elaborate
English, can you read it, motherfucker?
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This is where we post our stories and get ripped to shreds for them right?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/72365/tribunal
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>>37083367
>eight year gap between chapters
Explain
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>>37083374
Twilight becoming an alicorn soured me on MLP and I just dropped it until now because I'm beginning to hit a nostalgia crisis in my life and MLP was really big when I was happier in my life so I'm trying to recapture that.
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>>37083367
>interesting premise
>human tag

Why can't people just write about fucking ponies?
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>>37083404
It's not just humans, it's got some griffons and a dragon too I swear.
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>>37083406
>why can't people just write about fucking ponies?
>i-it's got griffons and dragons bro!
I think you're missing the point
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>>37083404
>where are the horses?
t. Gengis Khan
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What are the best fanfics about Sunnybuns?
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>>37083446
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/350494/looking-glass
This honestly. Even though later stories get kind of "yeah" this is still the best story about Sunset on the site and it works perfectly good as just a standalone fic.
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>>37083317
I'd love to see who becomes the most blocked author on site once that goes live.
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>>37083367
Just read the first chapter.

I feel like the flashback showing Slaar and Chrysalis being in league hurt your hook far more than it helped it. With the reader being fully aware that the two are working together, or at least plotting in the same direction, it removed a lot of the mystery that would have drawn the reader in.

Now that we know he can walk unchallenged into a changeling hive with the changelings cowering in fear at his presence, again it feels like the cards are on the table. It would be better to drop hints of his influence and power through character interactions, rather than bluntly spelling it out in a flashback three paragraphs into the story.

I liked the comradery between Agathon and Slaar, but the dynamic between them, as well as Slaar's potential treachery hinted at down the line, only reinforces my previous point. You ought to have only hinted at Chrysalis' involvement with Slaar, and kept his power-level under wraps, similar to what you did between Agathon and Slaar. We know Slaar's up to something that will hurt his friend, and that he feels regret for it, and that's far more interesting than anything involving Chrysalis so far.


Still it was a decent first chapter. I don't think I'll read further, as I have other things to read at the moment, but I hope you manage to get back into your groove and finish your story. Always nice to see writers come back after so long.
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>>37081509
>>37081525
I think that rather than explaining how it got bad, the challenge is in explaining why it was good originally.
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>>37081457
Give me a few months and I'll probably be asking for a Tuna fic list.
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>>37083364
How do filters ruin a board?
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>>37083491
You're right about the flashback now that I'm thinking on it. It definitely needs to be replaced, I'll have to figure it out but I got ideas. Thanks for the feedback!
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>>37083129
I love this so much
>>37083465
Probably the diaper/scatfags or the obsessive political blog posters.
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>>37083362
I think so. I wouldn't call it reference based humor. The characters aren't yelling out stuff like 'the power of Celestia compels you!' or asking what the fox said which is what people normally think of. None of the things you listed
are references IMHO.
Meta humor? I'm not sure what that is so maybe.
If it's low-effort or unfunny is another issue. Humor is subjective so if you think it's not funny that's true for you. If someone else thinks it's funny that's true for them.
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>Arrow 18 Mission Logs: Lone Ranger
I could barely get through the first chapter. There's too much wrong with it. No idea if it gets better but I doubt it and don't want to spend the time to find out.

The story is told in mission logs from a human who has travelled to Equestria in a space ship. This style of narration hinges on being credible and immersive to be good. This story feels like it was written by a clueless kid. Almost nothing makes any sense. I could write a review that's longer than the story itself so I'll try to keep it short.

>Omega Centauri was one of many candidate stars that were listed as potentially orbiting a black hole due to its unusual and rapid orbital oscillations
This premise is actually really cool and the only good thing the story has to offer. Humans discovering the pony world and that it defies known physics. And here it already goes downhill.
>According to the images produced the star was orbiting, not a black hole, but a planet
>the planet was terrestrial, contained an atmosphere similar to Earth, and seemed to have a temperature in the same range.
Planets are difficult to spot. That's why most planets are detected indirectly. Black holes on the other hand are much more noticeable because these indirect effects are much larger. Assuming the dimenions of this system are similar to ours, for such a short orbital period the Doppler shift would be ridiculous. This black hole would need in the order of a hundred thousand solar masses.
Astrophysicists latch on to anything anomalous. This would have gotten attention immediately after discovery, not explained away in a retarded manner like black holes.

Fuck, I said I would keep this short and I am still in the third paragraph. I swear I'm trying. Let's get back to the first one.
>the mission required an arrow class transport
Why a transport? Why manned? Why not a space probe? Why does this transport look retarded and unrealistic?

>politics nearly killed the mission, and what was supposed to be a full crew compliment had dwindled in a manner of months down to just one person
>I won’t go into all the boring details
Of course the author doesn't explain shit. Because he can't.

I'd assume if the mission had to be manned for whatever ridiculous reason, they would send someone highly qualified and the log would have been written with at least a semblance of rigor and intelligence. Instead they are full of garbage like
>my descent all the way into the system’s gravity well
>it goes against physics itself
>It may sound unscientific to form a theory

The technology is nonsensical. Humans are capable of FTL travel but apparently the human has to land on the planet to discover that there are trees and is fine leaving without protective suit. How the ponies react is awful too. Has the author not watched Zecora's episode?

I have no idea how this garbage got such a good rating. There's tons of better fics out there.
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>>37083665
Can you suggest many first contact sci-fi stories made before 2013? Pretty sure that story's popular because it's old, but I do agree that it is overrated. You'll find a lot of the really popular stories from 2011-2012 aren't as good as you expect if you didn't read them back then.
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>>37083513
By the virtue of every single retard staying on the first page only and then typing /ptfg/ or some other shit into the field and going straight there.
So nobody scrolls down the catalog, discovers new threads, nobody posts anything interesting, everybody sit in their general circlejerk.
The one thing lacks from the board right now is updoots. ^:)
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>>37083317
I hope people will be able to export their ban lists and share them. That would be fun to watch.
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>>37083839
oh christ no, that would turn the place into a glorified twitter
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I wonder if it would be like Facebook, and it won't let you block someone if they've been blocked after a certain number.
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>>37083665
Like most fics with ratings that high, it came at the right time. 2012-2013 was the best time to release a longfic because there weren't many done at the time and the fandom was at its peak population. Not to mention I imagine it was shared around the fandom + featured on EQD (when that place was fuckhuge), which means people will flock to it.

And once your fic gets a high enough rating most people subliminally will just upvote it anyway. I imagine at least half of those upvotes never even read through the entire story. Though it's got great reader retention rate (highest view count for one chapter is 71k, total views is 738k for 16 chapters)
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>>37083771
First page? What?
Is this homosexual seriously not using the catalog view? holy shit, how embarrassing
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>>37083129
>pony banners
>on muh pony fanfiction site
Wait, I thought that was illegal?
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>>37083119
Use "vuta7" as your filter. That starter kit link has been in the OP for like 6+ years now
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>>37084032
Hush, close your eyes and dream of genfic™.
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>>37084034
Heyyy thanks a lot anon
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>>37083953
>I'm retarded on purpose!
First 13 or so posts of the catalog view are page 1, mongrel
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>>37084157
So?
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>>37083696
>You'll find a lot of the really popular stories from 2011-2012 aren't as good as you expect
I don't remember it well. It was mostly short greentexts and google docs till fimfiction got popular. Obviously most stories were very unpolished. Just random people giving it a try. But some actually knew how to write. The earlier you pulished, the better the chances of it taking off. However, popularity never meant quality.

Wow that brings me back. It was a magical time full of optimism and activity. Can you believe /mlp/ used to be faster than /pol/?
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>>37084161
So you gulp dicks all the way up the balls, fucking lazy retard
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>>37084192
so how do filters ruin a board when somebody's using the catalog
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>>37083665
Your entire post can be summed up as “I can’t suspend my disbelief, so I’ll nitpick the framing device and call it bad writing.”
>apparently the human [...] is fine leaving without protective suit.
This is the only valid criticism you posted because it’s about basic human logic (like don’t stay in the spooky house with a killer) instead of “hurr, muh space math wrong, NASA wouldn’t do that.”
Luckily for you there’s an entire genre for people with exactly your reading deficiency: rational fics.
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>>37084208
>>37083771
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>>37084240
t. assblasted author
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>>37084241
>every single retard staying on the first page only
>search using the catalog
Anon…
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>>37084240
It's not unreasonable to want a science-fiction story to include science.
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>>37084257
But it is unreasonable to want a sci-fi fic to be a rational fic. Sci-fi is built in op the idea of suspending your disbelief about known science. He’s perfectly willing to accept that FTL is possible, but a manned mission is too far?
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>>37084280
Just butting in into this conversation to say hard-scifi is a thing, read Blindsight it's a great book
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>>37084280
There's nothing unreasonable about wanting an unmanned probe to be sent when humans clearly have the technological capacity. There's nothing unreasonable about wanting an explanation for why this manned mission got cut down to a single unqualified individual through politics. And there's nothing unreasonable about disliking how the author misrepresents ponies by going against Zecora's episode. Accepting FTL is a common component of suspension of disbelief, that doesn't mean you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I can accept flaming fireballs and still be upset that the author has no understanding of feudal politics in my fantasy novel, why can't I do the same for a sci-fi story?
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>>37084192
If someone was lazy, they wouldn't gulp dicks all the way to the base. At most they'd sloppily work the head while half-heartedly cradling the balls.
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>>37084600
How did you learn that, anon?
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>>37083129
Looks really neat, looking forward for this
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>>37084346
>unmanned probe
>single individual
To allow the desired plot to happen
>going against Zecora's episode
How?
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>>37084240
What do you like about this fic?

I just don't enjoy lazy stupid boring shit. A story doesn't have to be logical to be good. For example A Witch in Broad Daylight is also not rational at all, yet it's so much better that you can't even compare the two.
>This is the only valid criticism
I would argue that is one of the weaker criticisms because he tests the environment before leaving the ship. Sure it's irrational but not any more so than the plethora of other stupidity in it. One of the stronger criticisms is that the author doesn't explain critical parts of the story. The strongest criticism is that the story has nothing to offer. Nothing is worse than a boring story.

I even explained why I criticized this story for its stupidity much more so than I did with Broad Daylight. Arrow Logs tries to be realistic with all its pseudoscientific gibberish and the narration depends on suspension of disbelief. Broad Daylight is a completely different type of story that doesn't pretend to be serious. No suspension of disbelief is required in the first place. Alright, here you can come and say that Arrow Logs actually doesn't try either. That just returns to the key point, there is nothing else. Just a human landing in Equestria and looking at ponies. Broad Daylight has a constant stream of action, diverse content, some decent comedy and the occasional interesting idea.

>>37084280
FTL is a world change. Guess what, I also didn't criticize Celestia and Luna controlling celestial bodies. Mankind sending some human who then just lands and walks around is a character issue.
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>>37080322
Are there any good fics that explore the concept of Pinkie being a god?
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>>37084722
This. I want alicorn Pinkie. I want goddess Pinkie. Where is it?!

>>37084240
>Rational fics
I dunno bro. Rationalfics tend to be mostly about following a specific orthodoxy of thought / power fantasies about some guy destroying their enemies with the power of their awesome rationality.
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>>37084722
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/143966/stumble-in-my-footsteps
Only one that comes to mind.
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>>37084346
>There's nothing unreasonable about wanting an unmanned probe to be sent when humans clearly have the technological capacity. There's nothing unreasonable about wanting an explanation for why this manned mission got cut down to a single unqualified individual through politics.
What is suspension of disbelief?
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>>37084705
>How?
See >>37083665

>>37084881
>What is suspension of disbelief?
What about either of those things is "suspension of disbelief" and not "people would not do this/the author highlights the shaky grounds their fic is built on"?
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>>37084897
Sending a manned mission before a probe is not the most logical thing, so that’s the part you suspend your disbelief of. Do you even know what the phrase means? The reader suspends his disbelief for the sake of reading about someone seeing and interacting with a new planet for the very first time. It’s for the sake of telling a different story than one that would follow direct logic.
>probe lands in Equestria
>ponies realize life is out there
>probe sends back data that the planet has life
>human lands in Equestria
>the first contact from the human’s side becomes “yes, I already know a bit about these creatures”
>first contact from the ponies’ side becomes “yes, we already figured something was coming/something was out there.”
That’s a different story entirely. You could argue it’s better or worse, but that’s not the point. I don’t even care about Arrow 18, it’s okay at best, I’m just upset that people are this retarded about storytelling. Inability to suspend disbelief is non-meme autistic.
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>>37084968
Maybe the author should use a frame that actually fits the story he wants to tell, then.
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Maybe I should just start reading Urohringr now because it hardly seems like anything else I'm reading is updating.
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Any good fics with Anonfilly?
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>>37085173
Trust Once Lost.
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>>37084968
>I’m just upset that people are this retarded about storytelling. Inability to suspend disbelief is non-meme autistic.
Why do you even bring this up? Everyone here can suspend their disbelief. The topic isn't being retarded about storytelling but retarded storytelling.
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>>37085173
What about the story that almost killed fimfic?
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/493399/junior
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>>37084722
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/482629/the-41-second-goddess
(kinda)
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>>37085069
I'm not sure how you'd do that without significantly changing the main character's motivation for visiting the planet and/or his relationship with his superiors. And it seems perfectly reasonable to handwave the logic of the backstory when it doesn't matter that much and 99% of readers won't give a single fuck that this story about a meeting magical talking alien horses isn't 100% realistic.
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>>37085197
>almost killed fimfic
quick rundown?
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>>37085182
Read it, honestly could not get into it and dropped it.

>>37085197
Read this too. Not what I meant when I asked for Anonfilly but it's a delight nonetheless.

>>37085768
Junior has Luftkrieg as a supporting character and Aryanne as a tertiary character and the fimfic lefties went apeshit in the comments. It's pretty lol-worthy since the fuss kept the story in the featured box for 3 days.
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>>37085839
I'm not into the whole Aryanne shit but I love me some buttblasted do-gooders so that's a based from me
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>>37085839
I'd say based, but real-world politics have no place in FiM, so it's gonna be a cringe from me, senpai.
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>>37084798
>Alicorn Pinkie
This has always made me hard.
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>>37085925
Got any recs?
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>>37078720
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/496443/patience
6/10. Cheerilee's the custodian on a generation ship with Neighsay serving as the AI for some reason. Never been a big fan of these types of sci-fi fics since they're just tossing characters into an AU and trying to run the plot based on their personality and reaction. The character stuff was decent enough, but I couldn't get passed how contrived the whole setup was, so the author could do a cloning blues ending. Cheerilee has to be constantly cloned to care for the embryos because Equestria was too paranoid to let the AI handle it, despite it having complete control over the rest of the ship and being able to fuck over everything if it ever went crazy.

Britbong anon, I hope you don't have to put /end or some shit for these.

>>37080541
Carousal comes to mind, if you like some horror. I still haven't found any "pre-show life in Ponyville" fics since.

>>37080903
If you're only reading 1k, I'll just shill the sadfic I wrote way back when:
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/48108/statistics

>>37082341
>references
Pop culture or other fics? Fanfics referencing other fics is one of my guilty pleasures, but I've only seen a pop culture reference done well twice in a fic. The Klingon war song in Winning Pony's sequel, and the One Piece reference in Re:Harmony.

>>37083129
>Fimfic advanced will certainly need updating because I've changed a lot of the code.
Fuck. It hasn't been updated in six years. RIP rotating banners.

>>37083367
>deadfic updates after eight years
Good for you, anon. That means it's fully done, right?

>>37084280
>suspending your disbelief about known science
Depends on how hard the sci-fi's trying to be. Anon complaining about ship design makes me think he's a hardfag, since they're the ones who get anal about that. Seems to me he thought he was getting a Parmesan story or it was billing itself as such, but it's actually cream cheese..
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>>37087540
I thought you needed to add the >end thingie so the bot wouldn't add your whole post as a review.
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>>37087562
It automatically ends at the next >>### post link. But you can still use >end to end it early if you want to say more in the same reply.

In a couple weeks when I'm less busy I'll have to add support for spoilers. Right now they just display as normal text on the site, which is unfortunate.

I'm not actually british - I only went with .org.uk because it was cheap
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>>37083129
Haven't an opportunity to comb through the comments yet. Did Knighty mention an ETA?
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>>37087590
Based
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>>37087540
I do remember one reference to The Enchanted Library in it but that's all I can recall.
I still don't think 'references' are exactly the correct term. It's more like parodies of horror tropes.
As an example, in one of the chapters you get Sawmill who's clearly a Jason expy. It plays with slasher tropes with Sawmill unironically have the ability to teleport while no one is looking and will always come back no matter what you do to him.
There aren't any incidents I remember like 'Sawmill breaks through a door with an axe and says 'Heeeeeere's Sawmill!'' or calls them up on the phone and asks if they like scary movies of somepony says 'I see dead ponies' when a bunch of ghosts and/or zombies are around or Rarity shouts 'It's alive!' while bringing a robot to life etc. etc.
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>Well, dearies? It's Sunday. Time for your weekly progress report. How are your creative endeavors going, hm?
>I expect nothing but stellar reports from each of you.
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>>37087856
Still haven't done shit.
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>>37087856
Writing like normal. Fluttershy story will be published by the end of the month.
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>>37087856
Haven't written a goddamn thing!!
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>>37087540
>they're just tossing characters into an AU and trying to run the plot based on their personality and reaction.
But that's literally all fanfiction is. Taking the character we like and putting them into strange situations to see how they get out.
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>>37085839
So what you're saying is... it lost your trust?
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I tried reading the Lost Element, it's honestly not as bad as I expected. It sorta has the Tails gets trolled vibe where there's these interesting ideas and legitimately well written bits... but then it falls back into autistic video game references.
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>>37087856
Working on the outline every now and then. If feeling like it then i might be able to publish a new chapter by this month.
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>>37082341
>>37083665
I'm not sure if you're trying to get picked up by the bot, but I'm pretty sure you have to start with
>discuss [story link]
or
>review [story link]
, not just the title.
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>>37084240
>hurr if you want consistent, realistic writing, you're a rationalfag
>everyone else can ignore details and say stuff that doesn't make sense, because it's not a rationalfic bro, it doesn't have to make sense!
No, being consistent and believable is called good writing.
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>>37080765
Alright, just finished the long version of Archetypist and I gotta say I'm a bit disappointed (spoilers follow, kind of)
As you guys said this version was super bloated, the story moved from Fluttershy's cottage, to Rarity's boutique, then to the castle constantly. It must have gone through that exact cycle like 4 times.
But that's not the main issue I have with it. There are two things about this fic that don't sit right with me

>Pinkie and Spike
Don't let the flaire fool you, I'm not biased towards how much attention is given to Pinkie. I'm fine if a fic is not about her.
But this one involves the entire Mane6 cast going to shit, so what the hell? For 90% of the story I was thinking she's being completely ignored because she wished she didn't exist or that other ponies would forget her, then in the very last chapter she just shows up and hugs Twilight and then the story continues.

>The story itself
It's a retread of Return of Harmony. Discord does something, the nature of the mane6 is changed, but Twilight is the only one who sees it and tries to fix it. We all literally have seen this story already.

Aside from those two problems (which are huge, mind you), the prose is REALLY good. The first encounter with Fluttershy up on her cottage roof was amazing, I felt like I was there. Great dialogues too, they're all things the characters would say.
So now my question is: to the people who read the original, do you remember exactly what got added in the 52k word version? I'd love to get an idea of how the original story really flowed. If you could tell me which parts of the long one were missing that'd be great.
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>>37088256
forgot to quote this anon too >>37080926
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>>37087976
Is the lost element "egg"?
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>>37086872
Never seen any stories about it. Just pictures on Derpi
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>>37087856
I'm writing a chapter about Fluttershy and Dash, but it's trying to be a chapter about Flutters and her fucking bunny. I need to backtrack and delete stuff. It's tiring.
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>>37088245
>No, being consistent and believable is called good writing.
Yes, but inconsistency in the backstory is one of the least severe forms of bad writing, since it's usually easy to ignore
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>>37088245
>I know bitching about believability is autistic so I’ll throw in “consistent”
It is consistent. The backstory literally isn’t given enough time to be inconsistent.
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>>37087540
>That means it's fully done, right?
H-haha...
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>>37088256
I know in the original, not all of the M6 had extensive scenes. SpiderRarity did appear, as were mentions of Fluttershy's whatever it is that happened to her. Oh, there also wasn't a big number where the changed M6 try to use the elements to rectify things.
In the original Discord comes to see Twilight to fix things and she's too far gone, so she just stones him right then and there, and the story ends with stoned discord and Twilight getting her eyes sewn shut, which is why the original packs such a punch and is remembered fondly.
Also, there's no smarmy epilogue that doubles down on the "Nuh-uh! I was RIGHT! This is a GOOD ending!" attitude.
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>>37089461
Man, it sucks CiG took that one down.
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>>37089474
What I do find hilarious is that what happens in the story is a textbook example of a lack of consent. Everyone got their minds altered and they're acting not only with a lack of information, but also under a state of mental impairment. It would be like a drunk person with Down Syndrome signing up for their bodies to be used for science or something like that.
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So is Fimfetch still fucked or what?
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Prolly the most intense story I've read in awhile:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/486555/tormenting-a-queen
Good ride. Wish there was more like it.
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>>37089461
The problem seems to be that CiG wanted the story to have a happy ending of sorts. I preferred the original because it was a legitimate tragedy, being a story of a character who tempted fate and ended up creating their own downfall when they tried to fight against it. The rewrite drew back from that, god knows why, and became a mushy, mealy-mouthed farce.
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>>37089802
>The rewrite drew back from that
That's the thing, though. It's not as if the long version was a reimagining of the same concept. It just expanded on the short version while changing very little. The skeleton of the original tragedy is still there, and Gardez never explored the concepts presented in the story well enough to justify the idea that embracing those "dreams" was a good thing. It's still a tragedy, Gardez wrote that, but then he pretended it wasn't when the story itself showed otherwise.
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Now that I think about it, Gardez has already written this story, and while the quality of how Archetypist is written cannot be argued, I think A Once and Future Darkness is the closest we can get to the original version of Archetypist.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/289892/a-once-and-future-darkness
And this makes more sense because it's Luna messing with dreams.
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>>37089856
>It just expanded on the short version while changing very little.
Expansion dulled the overall impact, while the additional epilogue turned a tragic conclusion into something entirely different.
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>>37089866
Yeah I always shill this when people shit on Archetypist, it's one of my all-time favourite stories
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>>37089639
If you're into sadism/torture, I assume you've read Sexual Locust?
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>>37089566
It's not a bad story but it's just another Return of Harmony. Honestly it's the extremely well-written dialogues that carry the whole thing
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>>37088235
Didn't know there's a bot but it's already bad enough that my cringy reviews are preserved in the archives.
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>>37089866
>>37090075
Fuck me, that's a powerful one.
Chills in my back when she bit down.
I don't know what's more terrifying, the story or the fact that Gardez is once again writing eldritch anarchy, rebranding it as pure freedom, and trying to pass it off as a good ending.
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>>37090573
>I don't know what's more terrifying, the story or the fact that Gardez is once again writing eldritch anarchy, rebranding it as pure freedom, and trying to pass it off as a good ending.
Sounds based.
But actually Darkness leaves it ambiguous enough. It's hard to say whether it's a good ending or a bad ending. I mean reality broke down and everything is getting destroyed, so that's bad, right? But then, everypony is filled with joy. And Luna implies that that's the natural state of affairs. Madness is only a problem if ponies suffer from going mad, but clearly the ponies are doing anything but suffering.
Personally, what sealed the deal for me was the treebrary being resurrected, while the "useless" (sic) castle crumbles into dust.
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>>37090610
Oh I don't have a problem with the ending, it's appropriately leaves everything up to the reader for interpretation.
But it's pretty clear the author's not dead and wants you to at least consider the question.
>the treebrary being resurrected, while the "useless" (sic) castle crumbles into dust.
Shameless fanservice! But yes, a salient selling point
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/405147/those-left-behind
Anyone read this? The "eldrich abomination kills everyone but the immortal alicorns and now they're going to try and get revenge" plot sounds interesting, but I don't know if there's enough there for 60k without it being full of wangst. The M/Gore is also kicking up a red flag.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/481374/spreading-kindness
6/10.
Pros:
>mystery horror plot
>easily digestible
>OCs don't completely suck
Cons:
>Formula One pacing
>Friendship school setting
>the pacing gets two spots because it really hurts the fic

It's a friendship school fic, which I don't read, but it's also a mystery horror, which I do. The premise of a new student dealing with some spooky stuff happening and unraveling it is great, but the ultimate weakness is a common one: pacing. The author crammed a plot for a 40k fic into 8k, so everything's spedrun: the OCs development, the mystery turning to horror, the climatic resolution, and the OCxOC shipping at the end. It's still an okay oneshot, but it could have been a really good mutlichapter if more time had been invested in developing the plot and characters.

>>37087856
Still pecking away at that fetish sequel. I'm having to slow down because I'm writing too many fetish scenes and my stamina can't keep up. The damn thing won't be finished for another year, anyway.

I also finally cleaned up my read later/favorites list to kick out all the deadfics that have accumulated and went through all the notifications I've built up. Hope you recovered from that hurricane okay, Goldenwing.
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>>37090628
I read that for a bit because I like the author but got bored about halfway in and skipped to the ending where I was thoroughly disappointed.
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Recently listened to “the homesteading” by scribbler. It isn’t obscure by any means, she’s pretty big in the fanfic side of things. But man, I really loved it. I’m a sucker for a mystery story, and the way that one played out was captivating.
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>>37090080
>If you're into sadism/torture, I
I am, and I've not read it before. I'll check it out ty.
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>>37090628
>Friendship school.
Nope.
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>>37090628
Rarity is very pleased with each of you. Creativity is what impresses her the most. Rest well knowing you have her approval, but she'll check in again next Sunday.
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>>37090080
>>37090685
I just read it and it wasn't all that special. Just when you think something truly good is about to happen, the author skips/transitions the scene. And thus seldom goes indepth enough. The story I linked before was better in that regard. Just one torture method explained thoroughly and in high detail. Narrow and focused.
Sexual Locust was just a jumbled mess all over the place with little focus on the actual action. More shock value than anything imo. Was ok. 6/10 wouldn't read again.
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>>37087856
Don't worry Rarity I haven't written anything recently, but yesterday I got super high and now I'm thinking about writing a story about human Twilight stumbling into a nightmare version of Equestria.
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>>37091864
How nightmarish?
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>>37091864
So season 9?
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>>37091897
Almost total collapse of equine society with the entire world being shrouded in eternal night under a shattered moon. Monsters from beyond the veil of reality lurking in the shadows outside the remaining light of harmony. Those who stray to far into dark risk losing themselves and
becoming part of the waking nightmare. Real end of the world shit.
I've been on a bit of a lovecraftian kick recently and I noticed a lot of them deal with either trying to prevent the terrors from beyond from messing with reality or the immediate fallout of reality breaking. I kinda wanted to explore what would happen after the world has broken and ponies try to pick up the pieces and rebuild. I figure even if they can never put it back the way it was they'd still try and it'd be an interesting take on the genre.
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>>37092163
Sounds interesting but
>>37091864
>human Twilight
For what reason? Anything in particular stopping you from just writing about normal Twilight?
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>>37092172
Well there is a good reason it can't be any of the pony main cast. Namely reality broke when they tried to use the elements on Nightmare Moon. As such they were all at ground zero for the end of the world, and none of them have been seen since along with the majority of Ponyville. At least not as ponies anyway. The idea was that the world ended at the very beginning of the show and then kinda kept on going in spite of it. Certain events still happened Sombra's return, plundervines woke up, ect while others didn't. Timeline wise the world is around the end of season 5, since that's when friendship games takes place.
Also I wanted a stranger in a strange land kinda thing except the whole world is the strange land. So I needed either someone from another world or someone from before the collapse of reality. I decided on human Twilight since she wouldn't be effected by the apocalypse, but could still end up trapped there easily. I could probably bullshit a reason for any of the canon mane6 to end up in the future, but this feels like less of a cop out. It can also let me fun stuff about what happened to them.
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>>37092236
Hmm, why not Sunset?
If other parts of the chronology remain unchanged then logically she'd be the one padding through the mirror at the end of s4.
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>posting a Christmas/Hearth's Warming themed story in June
Is it cool, or would it be amusingly inappropriate?
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>>37092639
I hate reading holiday themed stories around holidays because they're almost always just feature bait fluff made purely to check a "wrote X holiday special!" box and attract readers who will read anything X themed for a short while.
If the story itself is actually good, and not just "look it's christmas/halloween/thanksgiving but with ponies now please feature my story", then post it whenever.
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>>37084034
"Now with 16% more vuta7 general"
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>>37092686
Well, that solves the next ITT.
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>>37092639
Agree with >>37092648, I avoid holidays like the plague because it’s all borderline spam. Posting a holiday story out of season is better imo.
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Heard you guys love pony fan fics. Enjoy!
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>>37092801
Ew, an MLP:FiM tag? I don't want that gay pony crap anywhere near my furry literature. Knighty needs to get rid of the FiM tag already; it's a dead fandom anyway.
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>>37092288
I thought about it, but an unreformed Sunset wouldn't really work for story. I also already came up with a neat idea for her and what happened to her.
Originally in my drug addled mind it was gonna be human Sunset as the main character for some reason and she was gonna be chasing after her pony duplicate through pony hell. That was stupid and didn't make much sense, but I'd already come up with a cool idea for their interactions and didn't want to throw them all away.
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>it's a "author just wanted to write a normal story but for whatever reason uploaded it to fimfiction and replaced all characters with pony OCs" fic
>literally nothing to do with the pony world
I seriously hope you guys dont do this
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>>37093295
I don't even mind this most of the time, just don't take me out of the universe with some non-horse bullshit, I don't need the hooves aggressively shoved in my face every paragraph to enjoy a fic.
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>>37093354
CiG very much does MLP fics though, his stories absolutely do not suffer from that problem of just being reskinned human stories.
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>>37093363
He really does both.
You can't tell me Lost Cities has any horse in it, anywhere.
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>>37093367
Shit then I guess I don't know him well enough
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>>37093370
Or fics like The Destruction of the Self, and Babel. They're What Ifs that could have been transposed to any universe. But it works just as well with horse.
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Any opinions on https://www.fimfiction.net/story/279865/the-things-tavi-says ?
What some authors consider their best work is not always uh perfectly aligned with reader reviews.
It can't be that bad if it's getting an audiobük, but the description gives it very little framing, not sure how much skirtsish unfocused textual reconstructions of the color purple I should expect.
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>>37093484
I read it back when it was being posted, and a second time later, and I can't remember a thing about it.
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Boy howdy never post an update on a monday morning fellas, the queue is straight up mad max. I can usually get a least a good hour out of the 8-10 slots of penalty box before I get booted out but I got absolutely smacked by like ten different updates in the span of five minutes.
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>>37093697
Uh, isn't there some rate limit so you can't get pushed out too fast?
(I have literally never written anything, I wouldn't know.)
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>>37093701
There is for new stories, but I don't think updates have a queue, since you can publish them whenever you want.
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>>37080672
Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I read the Archetypist and never knew it was an expanded exploration of a previous short.
I just read the short now and frankly it beat the hell of AT. Not that I didn't enjoy AT, but I felt it somewhat overstayed its welcome by the end.
But yeah, damn, Future Darkness was exactly what I needed. For a near 10k word story it flew by, felt like a 3k word one.
Thanks again, Anon.
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>>37093965
Can you post the link to the short?
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/474448/the-mystery-of-the-missing-mango-tree
7/10
Pros:
>compact, but well paced
>simple and straightforward plot
>silly ending befitting the premise
Cons:
>somewhat dry story and characters
>needed more humor
>first person narrative lacks descriptive details

As the title indicates, a silly bat pony plotted fic where a noir detective follows a mango tree thief into Equestria's wild west. While it's a shorter oneshot, the pacing was surprisingly well done. It didn't seem too rushed or too slow. The first person noir narration suffered a little from the MC being kind of boring and being kind of shit at describing things and characters' appearances. Given the absurd premise and resolution, it also could have been a lot funnier, which only would have been an improvement. Still, a nice shorter noir fic to whet the appetite.

>>37092236
Why not make the MC one of the griffons or another non-Equestrian character? They're sent over to see what the fuck's going on. It keeps the story grounded in the setting and brings the rest of the world into play--which is so often ignored in apocalypse fics, much as it is in warfics.

>>37092801
Was wondering when someone was going to post this. I'm still baffled what the crossover actually is. There's an obscure werewolf novel from 1979 about "night walkers," but that seems to be it. Is "crossover" just being used as "I'm putting some well known literary tropes into my fic" now?
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>>37094660
>compact, but well paced
That's what she said
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>>37094084
I guess he can't.
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>>37094981
I guess he won't.
I guess he's fronting.
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>>37094660
The problem with using some other species like a kirin or dragon is that I can't think of much of a reason for any of them to go to nightmare Equestria and stay there, especially after so much time has passed. Also reality breaking wasn't going to be a very localized event and while ponies got it the worst, everyone else is dealing with it too.
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>>37094084
It's linked earlier in the thread, but since you can't read:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/289892/a-once-and-future-darkness
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>>37093367
The first chapter is literally about a tower city built by unicorns.
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>>37092801
Did he delete it already? All of this guy's fics go the same way: he gets a few downvotes, deletes the fic and either cries about haters or claims his cousin deleted it.
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>>37095635
Oh okay, I think you got confused.
A short and future darkness is not the short-version Archetypist.
It's another story on the same theme.

The original archetypist was written for a writeoff event (to general aclaim), and then he rewrote it for fimfic, with mixed results.
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>>37080322
Since I can't contribute anything (I don't read enough fics and I'm struggling to continue my own) I'll leave a link for the latest Fimfarchive as of 1st June. Always good to have a backup on your personal drive. https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/951204/fimfarchive-20210601-released
>>37083152
I can't recall any Asian analogue or cuisine appearing in the show (correct me if I'm wrong). So no chopsitcks.
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>>37096262
Just took this test out of curiosity. Considering I'm an ESL fag I'd say I did pretty well
The main reason I looked it up is to see if the test really had a Trixie at the end of it
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>>37096262
Also an ESLfag, but a few of the rare english words are imported from latin languages, so that helps score some easy points.
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>>37096262
>http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=16447741
and they called me anti-intellectual...
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>>37096262
All these words, and we chose horse ones
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I don't like this test because it uses the same words every time. You could theoretically memorize these words or learn them from the test after taking it in the past, learned the word, then came back and got an inflated words known score, like I probably have.
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>>37096262
Thanks for boosting the archive.
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>>37096758
>>37096799
>>37096763

Anyone can lie on a test that requires no proof that you know the words. >>37096799 even implies that he just knows the words because he had to look them up last time for the test... so it's a meaningless test (I got around 26,500 and I definitely have a wider vocabulary than basically anyone I know IRL).

Being a good writer means never using such obscure words just to sound smart. Pointless. Just wankery for the type of tists that love fedoras and trilbys.
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>>37096853
I think a big vocabulary for writers is like any other professional knowledge. You only need 10% of your knowledge for 90% of your job, and the other 90% of your knowledge is for the other 10% of your job.
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>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/482053/the-royal-brats-reality-check
>almost 50k first "chapter"
>no actual penetration
God damn, why would you write a fucking novella worth of set-up and foreplay and not even get to the good part.
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>>37096937
>God damn, why would you write a fucking novella worth of set-up and foreplay and not even get to the good part.

https://www.fimfiction.net/user/404184/Trudgery
>I (attempt to) write the kind of content I am unable to find. Don't expect me to be active often, or even necessarily on occasion...
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>>37096937
Why would you read trashy non-con princess rape in the first place?
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>>37096974
That's a stupid question.
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>>37096262
>Asian analogue
There was the whole mistmane arc, but don't recall any chopsticks in the background.
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>>37093965
>>37095635
That's another story altogether but I guess I'll read it anyways.
I'm still on the lookout for the fabled Archetypist short version
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/457166/meat
5/10.
Pros:
>tight pacing
>good, personal horror
>no stupid slasher idiocy
Cons:
>it's a Cupcakes fic
>the dead horse is still dead
>lacks a good gutpunch ending that horror oneshots need

The Cupcakes genre is so worn out by now, I don't know why I had hoped there'd be something different. The fic follows Twilight's horror at discovering Pinkie's crimes. It's well written, but very bland and typical if you have any sort of familiarity with the "realistic" section of the Cupcakes genre, where everyone's horrified, the Royal Guard aren't incompetent, and Pinkie's a psychopath. Was disappointed it didn't do anything new with one of the oldest plots in the fandom.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/487641/forbidden-places (as of chapter 37)
Starscribe gonna Starscribe. Jordan, the dude who got turned into a female batpony, is now in heat or something and keeps hitting on Blake. I would expect this to be weird for her, but instead she's 100% into it, without even a hint as to why she's not freaking out.

It's annoying because there's otherwise a lot of good stuff going on in this fic, like Kaelynn being a fish or Jordan learning dream magic. But a bunch of the focus currently is being spent on this dumb shit instead.
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>>37099055
>be guy
>become mare
>now acts as mare
I thought biology didn't dictate your gender or whatever.
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>>37096937
Also how the hell does it have over a thousand views with so little interaction. You'd think it would have more than 30 total likes and dislikes with so many views.
>>37096974
Why do you think?
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>>37099055
Damn that's hot. Might have to read this one
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Should I write a few short stories first or jump straight into multi chapter epics?
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>>37099272
Different skills for each. As long as you have a solid grasp of grammar you’ll be fine.
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>>37099272
I'd recommend a few short stories first to get a grasp of the writing rhythm, as well as practicing characterisation and pacing, and then jump into longer pieces.
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>>37099055
>Female bat pony in heat
Why would you be questioning this. This sounds like the best possible thing to be.
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I’ve just finished Appledashery by Just Essay/Shortskirtsandexplosions which was a fine, fine million words; a true pleasure. Cemented me to be a fanficfag. Now I’m reading Austraeoh, and as I expected, it is magnificent even 4% in. I’m switching between reading some H.P. Lovecraft and Background Pony so I do not finish Austraeoh too fast.
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>>37099321
>so I do not finish Austraeoh too fast.
I mean, the whole series is 4 million words so far.
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>>37099395
I never wanted Appledashery to end (well, it’s To Be Continued), so I’m taking precautions to savor this next one.

>so far
It’s still going? My word! That’s exciting.
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>>37099321
>Appledashery
Damn. I'd forgotten about that abandoned skirts project.
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>>37099403
Yeah, "going". The update schedule slowed down considerably.
Still you have 8 finished books, one halfway there, and at least three still unwritten books to wrap up the whole thing
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>>37099409
Yes, the shipping story that is devoid of shipping that also made me laugh to tears at some points (fucking Trixie). It got a To Be Continued note in 2018, but didn’t get a summary wrap-up like that discontinued Scootaloo post-apocalypse story, which I maybe would think to be the true nail in the coffin.

>>37099411
The author is a superhero. That’s a lot of books. Didn’t Background Pony come to be a couple books? I envy the lucky bastards who got a physical copy/copies. I’d probably grab any fic in physical form if the chance ever arises again (because I’d trust they’d be good stories to merit being popular enough for such treatment).
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>>37099430
>I’d probably grab any fic in physical form if the chance ever arises again
See ministryofimage.net/ NonExistant publications, people that just put their stuff on Lulu, and a few other places I forgot.
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>>37099485
Oh and this ponyfeatherpublishing.com/
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>>37099485
>>37099488
>Background Pony (already a fan), FOE, Lost Time, Two Sides of a Melody among others look good to me as a newbie
Thanks a lot. I’ll be grabbing these piecemeal. What a special and different kind of book to have on your shelf.
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>>37080322
any zigger buck breaking fic?
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Okay, I was hit with some desire for nostalgia today and tried to find a certain fic from a while ago, like, 2013 or earlier, but have had no luck finding it.
Does anyone remember the story where Dash meets the delivery pony who's faster than her, but doesn't believe it? The pony in question has giant wings that have no maneuverability and breathing problems, but it turns out she can fly in the stratosphere and the jet stream clears out her sinuses. That's how she's faster.
Anyone remember it?
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>>37099660
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/3782/higher-flier
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fimfiction is technically 10 years old now
knighty registered his account at 2011-06-09T09:00Z
Site doesn't open to the public until 10 July though
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>>37099678
Damn, that did bring back memories from 2012, thanks.
Forgot the OC was red and black, though. Didn't seem so bad back then.
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>>37099678
>56k warning
nice
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>>37099001
Nice lmao
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>>37100252
Yes.
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>>37099237
>>37099304
Well, yeah. But there should be some internal conflict going on here, and there isn't. There's hardly any indication of how the characters feel about this situation, even in their own POV chapters. She just throws herself at him and he ignores her and neither one stops to think "wait, is it weird that I, a former dude, suddenly have a craving for the hot kirin dick?" / "wait, why is my friend, a former dude, suddenly hitting on me?"
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>>37100322
Why is the sky blue, why is water wet?
I'm sure there's a place in some fic for vaguely philosophical questions with transparently obvious answers, but obviously not in this one.
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>>37100322
>starscribe writes tftg fic where character goes through angst of "oh no muh dick, oh no muh sexual orientation"
>people complain that the story is being wasted on muh sex tf angst
>starscribe writes tftg fic where the character gets in-character and accepts the changes
>people complain it's not realistic enough
Personally while I think the former has its place, it's not a necessity for every single tf story. I can also easily buy the explanation that if you spend enough time as a female in a female body (and before someone tries screeching about trannies: this is a true biological female body, from tf magic), subject to female hormones and all, and harbouring female genitals and female reproductive organs - it's really not that unspeakable to find yourself attracted to a male. And conversely, if a cute bat mare is hitting on you, it might not feel all that unnatural.
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>>37100336
>>37100354
I think a large part of why people are complaining about this is that it's kind of boring. I have found that the Kaelynn and Ryan chapters have been a lot more interesting to read than the Jordan and Blake ones. At least since Jordan's chapters have stopped being about dreaming.
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Anyone got around to reading that fic that's been getting daily updates through the last year or so? I've seen it pop up a few times and got curious.
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>>37080322
I finished reading two fics, here are my thoughts on each, bros:

>Tormenting a Queen, by Ekhidna
suggested by >>37089639
I was surprised by this one. The prose is not great, many mistakes and redundancies, and sometimes (especially in dialogues) it can come off as a bit forced..
But holy shit the PACING is absolutely perfect. No scene lasted too long or too little, and the story itself (for what it is, AKA a sex and torture fic) is solid too. Not too long so I recommend it. Steel yourself for the prose at the beginning and let it grab you, it's a good one.

>A Once and Future Darkness, by Cold in Gardez
Seen in this post >>37089866
Alright what the fuck is with CiG and dreams bleeding into reality? I'm honestly shocked somebody can write two stories about the exact same thing with some things altered. Basically this one follows the same plot as The Archetypist (of which we only have the long and bloated version now, sadly).
Dialogues and overall interpretation of the characters is spot-on, prose is really solid, but the story itself is just kinda not great.
This fic is like an exact opposite of the fic above, this time the prose and dialogues are strong but the story falls flat, especially when the author's already fucking written this story once.

I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I thought of these two fics.
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>>37100354
I don't want angst necessarily, just some acknowledgement that this is weird. Even if it's something basic like
>wait, since when do I find guys attractive?
>eh, I already decided to roll with being a girl while I'm here, might as well go all in
Also, some buildup would be nice, rather than jumping straight to "ay bby u want sum fuk". Kaelynn and Ryan had it: the earlier parts of the story are constantly mentioning how much time they spend together and how they support each other in trying to adapt to their new bodies, so it was obvious the ship was coming long before they made it official. Meanwhile Jordan jumps straight from zero to trying to fuck Blake at every opportunity. Honestly, shipping Jordan with that guy she met in her dreams would work way better than what's currently happening.

>>37100402
Agreed. I think the problem with the newer chapters is that the plot seems to be going in a predictable direction and the story is being annoyingly evasive regarding how the characters feel about it. Whereas in the early Kaelynn and Ryan chapters it was not at all clear how the situation could be resolved, and it was obvious how unpleasant the situation was for the characters even when it wasn't directly shown.
>I'm a fish, but I'm in the desert, this fuckin sucks
>I'm hungry, but I physically cannot eat, this fuckin sucks
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>>37100567
That's fair. I'm still waiting for it to be finished before reading so I wasn't aware of the specifics.
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>>37100408
What fic is that, anon?
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>>37100541
>Alright what the fuck is with CiG and dreams bleeding into reality?
Anon, he wrote a grand total of two fics like that, four years apart, out of 53 total fics. The fact that you read them both in a row doesn't make it some sort of pattern of his.
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>>37100689
Fine but it's still weird
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>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/494905/anarchy-parole-of-a-queen
Oh look! Crazy Bugmom gets parole. What’s the worst that could happen?
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>>37100619
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/466205/the-behemoth-came-to-canterlot
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>>37100749
Well at least he's been getting better comments than "Great chapter!".
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>>37100541
>especially when the author's already fucking written this story once.
Uh no, Darkness was the very first time he wrote on this theme.
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>>37100749
That story description is less than helpful
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>>37100838
"The Behemoth flies east"
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>>37100825
I see, then the other way around.
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>>37099724
It's party time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPlQpGeTbIE
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>>37100843
What if by design this fic was the anti-Austraeoh?
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>>37100541
Guys I didn't mean to shit on CiG, he writes hands down the best Fluttershy I've ever read, and maybe even the best Twilight. His dialogues and prose are REALLY good
Just these the plot of these two stories I didn't particularly like, that's all.

I do feel like I'd love the short version of Archetypist though
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>>37101031
The Behemoth flies west?
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>>37101108
The rough behemoth slouches west towards Bethlehem to be born.*
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>>37101109
wait a minute that cutie mark...
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>>37101127
>the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity
fanfic writers in a nutshell
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>>37101127
>>37101108
Actually it's:

The Behemoth
>A negative figure, opposed to Dash, who is a good character
>A non-show character, opposed to Dash who is one
>A non-pony, opposed to Dash being one
>A massive and slow creature, opposed to Dash

Arrives in Equestria
>As opposed to Dash leaving it

And remains there
>opposite of Dash's constant travel

>While the story itself reflects this as well
>Multiple characters in a defined location, opposite a single character in an ever changing one
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>>37101145
Lovely.
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>>37101251
>shipping mane6 together with another mane6
I sure hope you horsefuckers dont do this
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>>37101523
Of course not. We ship all M6 with each other. It's the only valid ship.
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>>37101550
I'm a fan of Rainbow Dash growing old alone because she's a bitch.
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>>37101523
I love the interactions between Twilight and Pinkie. And my inner romantic and my inner degenerate got together to ship them.
Still my OTP since 2012.
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>>37101766
What about Twixie?
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>>37101523
Spot the newfag who thinks it’s somehow a tranny agenda.
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>>37102160
It's cute, too. Eyes on You is still my favourite shipfic, even if it's probably due to it being the first big well-written shipfic I read back in the day.
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>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/428202/the-human-pet
I'm only 9 chapters out of 37 and i can't shake the feeling that this story is just off. Not a reviewer by any fucking means but the more I read it the more the stronger this feeling is. Am i the only one who feels this something wrong with the writing?
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>>37099272
A few short fics are good for developing your narrative style and practicing the basics like characterization, pacing, etc.

>>37102232
>story is just off
I get that feeling when reading a fic where stuff happens and there's no weight to it, like when a character dies and everyone just kind of shrugs it off because the author needs the plot to keep going and can't be bothered to slow down and have things register or when Canterlot Castle is a giant empty building with two alicorns and a few maids instead of being the capital of a continent spanning kingdom.
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>>37102229
Because you said it anon I decided to start reading it. I like ships of the Mane 6 outside of their circle. Twice As Bright is one I really liked, if you've never heard of it it's Pinkie and Celestia.
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>>37102258
>when Canterlot Castle is a giant empty building with two alicorns and a few maids
But isn't how it's actually represented in the show? Just replace the maids part with guards
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Dear writers,

PLEASE DON'T WRITE OUT APPLEJACKS ACCENT EXCEPT FOR OCCASIONAL REFERENCE.
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>>37102925
Watcha mean, pardner?
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>>37102925
At the same time, don’t overdo it. You do not need to substitute “I” for “Ah”—that’s distracting. I hear AJ saying it her way just fine.
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>>37103030
The thing about writing ponies with accents, in parituclar apples, is that they're not trying to talk differently on purpose. Apple Isn't saying "ah" really, she's saying "I" in the same way shes actually saying partner any other thing that can be southern'd. It shows a weakness in writing skill to rely on the accent to show it's (x) pony. The trick to getting apple to sound like apple is all about context and the way you arrange how she speaks.

That said, there's room for the occasional ah or the leaving off of g's. But like you said, don't overdo it.
>>37102973
WOE UPON YOU
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>>37103069
That’s a great way of putting it. If you do Appul justice, she’ll/they’ll come into her own.

I agree, some words can be written in applespeak for emphasis or extra character. But what do you mean by some Ah’s are okay? Don’t you want to be consistent with pronouns of all things?
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>>37103100
>Great way of putting it
Thanks! I've been writing for a while, the only character I still can't get down is ponks. But I see people do this with orange mare so often I felt it needed to be said.
>Occasional ahs.
It's an emotional thing that helps pull in the reader-really it's just the allowance for RARE apple speak. When you drop something like that in the right place at the right area it doesn't break the consistency so much as it helps maintain a certain immersion.

The places you'll really want to use the occasional ah are when it would make sense to and the speech of apple may be extra southern or slurred. The reader has this funny way of not noticing that. For example

>Applejack leaned over the mahogany wood of the bar, smelling deeply of cider, rain and dry earth. It's a wholesome scent combination, one you haven't ever thought much on simply because it never occurred to you to do so. It's pleasant, the aroma helping you to visualize her in your minds eye tilling the soil and chewing hay at her front porch to the tune of a banjo being plucked.
>"Now I ain't saying nothing much on Celestia's politi.." she cuts herself off with a hiccup, sitting back up for a second as if she were confused by who made the sound only to realize it's herself and drunkenly come back down to the table.
>"I ain't sayin' much none on Celestia's political leanings. I'm a proud equestrian and I reckon rightly love the sisters more than any other dang earth pony.."
>"But?" You ask, your lime green cloth still in your hand as you rub against the inside of the shot glass with it, diligent with your duties even when listening. You're a good bar tender through and through.
>"But," she swallows a burp, leaning in with her hoof pressed to her mouth as she yelled in the bar holding five other ponies total "ah wish she'd stop holding the Royal challenge pissing contest."
>You think she tried to whisper.

This isn't that good at all, but you'll notice that it isn't THAT much of a problem. It's not something you'll want to do in particular with the "ah"s as they break immersion easily, but if you have a good place to use it that once, use it.
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>>37103213
Another case I find acceptable is, simply:
>She looked the adamant unicorn square in the eye. “Ah. Don’t. Care!” she bellowed.
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Reading a fic called lines and webs pretty good so far did the big reveal at the beginning then 6 months ago cliche
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>>37104252
Petriculture
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>>37104360
That was a good story.
Are the sequels any good?
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>>37104306
Can you believe I read all of this and the sequel, upvoted them, and I remember nothing?
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>>37104252
Sorry, I can't write her so I've decided to not write a fic revolving around her. She only cameos.
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Non-depressed knighty is mai waifu
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/952373/some-colour-theme-ideas
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Would you guys say it's okay for a chapter to start off with the main character interrogating another, lettings said character go horizontal rule then transition to the aftermath of interrogated char?
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>>37105270
I like charcoal.
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>>37102229
I'm just about finished Eyes on You because of your recommendation Anon and it was pretty damn good. If it wasn't for the romance it would've been a couple good episodes and the romance itself was adorable.
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>>37105513
Glad you liked it! It's been a while since I reread it. I'll try giving it a shot one of these days for nostalgia's sake.
Hope you like the rest of the story.
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>>37105427
I'm partial to dark-as-my-soul as a phone reader. And also as an Estee reader
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>>37105577
It was definitely well worth reading. I'm rather sad it's over I wanted to see maybe a scene or two of Trixie beginning to reconnect with her brother.
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>“Well Rarity I don’t know if you know this about me but I don’t handle stress very well and I’ve taken an astonishing amount of cocaine!”
Crackfics. They're something else.
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>>37105270
Your waifu doesn't exist. To be fair the same is true of everyone else here.
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>>37105676
i've met knighty, he's real! though, like every other waifu, he wouldn't let me touch him.
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how quaint
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>>37105708
Knighty? Yes. Non depressed Knighty? Keep dreaming.
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>>37105270
there are giggles to be had
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>>37105422
Explain what you mean, because it sounds like
>POV of char 1 about to interrogate char 2
>[hr]
>POV of char 2 post-interrogation
in which case, I think you’re fine.
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>>37105774
Both of those fuckers need to be shot.
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>>37105855
rude
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>>37105915
The writers. Not the Discord users.
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>>37105919
no, make them fight. we might get a decent hatefuck porno out of it.
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>>37105855
>>37105919
>as an enlightened centrist, violence is the only answer, right fellow redditors?
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>>37105843
That's exactly it.
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>>37105940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlxfDvSyPKA
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>>37105855
If someone writes a clopfic with thinly veiled allusions to Titty and Numb, would we reach world peace?
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>>37105994
>implying I haven't done it already
>>37105940
You don't get it, do you? You think this is still about politics? About 'justuce'? About right and wrong?

I don't care anymore, anon. I only want blood. I want death and destruction. It's not about opinions or leanings or any of that shit. Subhuman filth to be purged is all there is to it. Vengeance and wrath.
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>>37105940
That's more like post-unwoke anti-centrism.
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>>37106075
Don’t worry, anon, puberty doesn’t last forever. You’ll be much happier when your hormones settle.
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>>37106301
I was born last century, mate, and the mental scars of domestic abuse that still isn't over aren't going away anytime soon.
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>>37106345
>read this
>think "so"?
>realise that by now this means you're guaranteed to be over 20 years old
here's everyone's weekly "ah fuck ah shit time is continuously moving forward, a concept I was not prepared for" post
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What's your lowest rated story, anon? Does it deserve it?
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>>37106385
50/50 likes/dislikes split on a senseless gorefic mostly written to exorcise some stress, so yeah, it does.
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>>37106385
A G5 clopfic I wrote. I think people were mostly just upset about me corrupting the new characters as soon as they were announced.
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>>37106345
Cry more on your blog, because no one else cares.
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>>37106634
>get asked a question
>answer the question
>"nobody cares"
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>>37106656
Point to the question you’re answering, because it seems to me like you’re whining about your life unprompted.
>>37106385
>tfw my lowest rated story is still almost 80%
feels good man
I don’t really get downvotes on my worse stories, just ignored. It absolutely deserves to be rated lower though. It’s a borderline crackfic about Rarity being so far up her own ass that her “generosity” involves harassing a homeless stallion, getting stabbed by said homeless stallion (she thinks it’s an accident), and then donating her AIDS blood. I’m genuinely proud of a couple lines in there, but overall it’s probably my weakest piece of writing.
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>>37106385
Apparently. Guess it was too melodramatic.
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>>37106385
Only two stories and my worst one is 39/4 likes/dislikes. Maybe it does maybe it doesn't when I started I had a fuck ton of mistakes and no one called me out for them instead just let me farmed likes so I have no clue.
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>>37106385
This is my worst ratio so I think I'm doing okay.
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>>37102655
Yeah, and it's shit.

>>37103069
>there's room for the occasional ah or the leaving off of g's
Applejack only uses "ah" when it's a contraction. In general, her accent is the third "strongest" among the Apple family, behind Apple Bloom and Granny Smith and tends to be less pronounced the more emotional she gets. The thing that matters most, though, is the vocabulary and structure of how she talks. That shouldn't change, regardless of if you use Ah or I.

https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/85926/accents

>>37105270
Wonder if he finally got a gf. That seemed to be at the center of his depression.

>>37105994
>clopfic parody where the ponies Booby Glimmer and Mrs. Letters hate fuck each other in the Canterlot Archives while arguing about censorship and the rise of unicorn supremacy in the Archives' readerbase
>story ends with Twilight, sitting nearby, looking up from the book she's reading and complaining about how distracting all their political arguing/sex is to her reading
I'd laugh and upvote it.

>>37106385
My weird 100k fetish fic. Currently sitting at 23:15. It was rated T since there's no actual sex in it, so that plus the weird fetishes attracted a fair few of the downvotes, I suspect. Those that did read the whole thing also really hated the open ending I did.

I just wrote another thousand words of the sequel last night, so I clearly haven't learned anything, especially since Closet Anon will be downvoting it once it's finished.
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Well, I finished The Lunar Rebellion, finally, and to be honest, I rather enjoyed it over all. It's not perfect, but I would still rank it higher than Winning Pony.

Working through Midnight's shadow, but I'm three chapters in and have yet to see a likeable and sympathetic character.

Yeah, I don't care for Midnight any more than Sunbeam. Fite me faggots.
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>>37107097
>Applejack only uses "ah" when it's a contraction
So only ‘Ahm’ and no ‘Ah’... man, the detail.
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>>37106385
My latest one, actually. Which... kinda sucks to find out.
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>>37106385
9:2
It's a dime-a-dozen comedy fic; the sort that you read once then forget it existed. I'm amazed it even got 9 likes to begin with.
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Does anyone read reviewers? I used to like Titanium Dragon, and I follow Paul Asaran as well. Are there any other good reviewers?
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>>37107536
There's a review group I read every once in a while. Most of the reviews aren't very good, but one of the guys does good work and generally provides good writing advice.
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>>37107097
What fetish(es), approximately?
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>>37106385
82:9
A story about saddle arabian horses. It probably deserves worse, because I posted one chapter and never finished it, even though I have the entire thing planned out and mostly written. I suck.
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>>37107991
oh shit no, I read the wrong rating. 28:4.
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>>37107998
Still got me beat; 31:9 here. Honestly, that one deserves better, but I suppose I can't be too surprised a mystery about pooping in a urinal got a lot of initial downvotes. It's still not even close to my worst story, though.
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>>37108239
Hello, Jimmy.
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>>37107097
Keep on flattening, man!
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>>37108247
Yardy know.

I still remember when I posted it somebody in this thread got fucking PISSED that it was in the "popular" not quite penalty box and his labor of love wasn't, and thus I had kept his work from reaching the eyes of the public. I asked him what his story was, because would feel a little bad if I kept some dude's magnum opus from getting the attention it deserved.

It was all OC anthro rape semi-snuff. I think there might have been some, uh, other factors at work there.
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>>37107946
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/306006/fight-club
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>>37108494
kinda based
wait, you're the guy who keeps complaining about being stuck on Regent?
I should read your stuff sometime
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>>37080322
hey hey add my reviews to that List of Reviews link do it do it
>>37100541
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>>37108609

I don't run the database. If you want a review to go on the site, use the formatting in the OP. It should appear automatically.
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>>37108675
Nice I'll give it a shot
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>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/486555/tormenting-a-queen

I was surprised. The prose is not great, many mistakes and redundancies, and sometimes (especially in dialogues) it can come off as a bit forced..
But holy shit the PACING is absolutely perfect. No scene lasted too long or too little, and the story itself (for what it is, AKA a sex and torture fic) is solid too. Not too long so I recommend it. Steel yourself for the prose at the beginning and let it grab you, it's a good one.
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>>37108689
shit it didnt appear in the list
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In case anyone ever gave a shit about the maximum possible length of a Fimfic chapter and is also autistic enough to figure out the weird quirks it seems to have.
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>>37108727
kek neat
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>>37108727
Pretty cool. Also funny how supposedly the earliest fic on the site is unfinished.
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>>37108749
I thought it would be common knowledge that Seth was the one behind it. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/9

You youngsters lack culture. Stories 1 through 8 (and 0 if it exists) were likely tests done by staff and either removed or never published, leaving this as the oldest one.
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>>37108733
Wanna know what's really neat?
Fimfiction's word counter is... Let's say it's quirky. It doesn't work quite right in certain conditions, for likely reasonable programming reasons. But if you were to push it to its limits... I'll just say that black there may be in a position to publish a story with no words in it.
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>>37108759
I read a couple fanfics off site in the early days, back on ff.net, and then stopped reading and being interested in the show for a few years before coming back. Shrug.

I think the first pony fic I read was Cupcakes. Unfortunately. Silent Ponyville was probably right after that. There was another old adventure story called "Growing Pains" that I think was first published on ff but was never finished.
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>>37108796
>Cupcakes. Unfortunately
Cupcake's fucking kino though, anon
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>>37108799
Cupcakes is a satirical masterpiece that trolled an entire generation of bronies into taking it seriously when instead it was a self aware trollfic parodying the gorefics trends of other fandoms, ironically it also gave birth to that same trend in the pony fandom itself.
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>>37108799
I kind of love it, although I am a huge sucker for low IQ blood and guts slashers (that one mega-series with serial killer Rares is my ultimate guilty pleasure.) Whatever the case, it's certainly better than the other great "zomg gross" fic of the era, Rainbow Factory (?), which sucks and always sucked.
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>>37108817
Rainbow at least got a recent rewrite to fix the grammar and shit, and the official sequels are kinda pessimist kino.
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>>37108817
If it's written well it doesn't matter the genre, that's my motto
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>>37108817
The Secret Life of Rarity. Yeah I like that story and its sequels too even though they aren't particularly great.
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>>37108811
You know, thinking about it like that then Cupcakes and Fallout Equestria are probably responsible for starting some of the worst trends in the fanfiction scene of the fandom.
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>>37108855
What did Fallout Equestria start? A streak of post-apoc fics?
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>>37108691
Oh yeah, sorry, Knighty changed something on the site and the bot is broken for now. I'll fix it sometime next week and then it should pick up everything from this thread so far.
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>>37108875
A series of Fallout Equestria fic. Have you been living under a rock?
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>>37107097
>Wonder if he finally got a gf. That seemed to be at the center of his depression.
Or just went gay/furry. That's what seems to happen to most horsefuckers when they stay single and fap to pony for too long.
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>>37108887
That's alright, good to know.
>>37108910
I watched MLP for the first time in like 2013, dropped it, and picked it up properly literally last summer and binged it all.
Pretty new to the whole community lore
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>>37108932
Being gay/furry does not make you climb out of depression and start re-adding pony themes to your site.

>>37108938
Alright that's fair ponkfriend
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>>37108955
>Being gay/furry does not make you climb out of depression and start re-adding pony themes to your site.
No but getting laid might. Incidentally, I'm told Grindr is Tinder on tutorial mode.
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>>37108958
Turning gay out of desperation sounds like a pathway to realising you've completely lost yourself and an heroing. Either he was actually gay and decided to go full homo and enjoy it, or he got a gf.
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>>37108965
Eh, I don't know anon. This board isn't all that suicidal, and we've a good third of genuine horsefuckers, two-digit % 3DPD waifufag monogamists, and at least 50% are convinced traps are not gay and jacking it to braeburn once doesn't mean anything.

I'm not going to go "homo is a choice" on you, but not all people we destined to the 2D life from birth.
I think it's possible he just let go and gave in.
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>>37108847
Ah hell yeah I had forgotten the name. I always liked the alt universe one where she gets thrown in the looney bin the best. Unexpectedly very sweet.
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>>37108727
>105 bytes short of 4MB
Weird limit. I wonder where that 105 byte overhead is coming from.
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>>37108990
>jacking it to braeburn once doesn't mean anything.
Only once? But there's so many great pictures of him!
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>>37109074
Could it be a limit at the HTTP level? 105 bytes sounds realistic with a couple of headers.
Though on second thought there's probably way more than 105 bytes of even just cookies so nevermind.
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>>37109181
That would make sense. Probably a limit on the size of the request body, not the entire request. I don't know what other fields are passed to the server when creating a chapter, but I could see them adding up to 105 bytes.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/436475/the-centurion-project

Any of you read this? I'd like to hear others thoughts, I think its good but it ticks too many boxes for to say that with full confidence
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>>37109842
Human OC with 5 red flags, including the Sex tag?
Yeah it's gonna be exactly what it looks like. Give the first chapter a try, and see if you want more of that..
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>>37109887
I just finished it, But i didnt even notice the Sex tag. Theres no hanky panky in the entire book. Which i think is a plus.

Course if you have other stories in this kind of genre then by all means link them
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>>37109842
This looks like either a shittier version of The Lunar Guardsman, or a slightly better version that's still mostly irredeemable (and is more or less my guilty pleasure in either case)
I'll give it a try (someday)
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>>37110016
Well, Looks like i have a new longfic to read> thanks.

Ill certainly compare the two. Though at a glance i dont think theyre as close as youre implying.
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>>37110039
>edgy human
>survivor of some terrible edgy tragedy where everyone died and he lost everything
>"On the run from a past that haunts him to his core, he finds himself in Equestria, a land of tranquility and peace. Elias now has a choice. Does he give up the only life he has known, that of a survivor, and settle with the ponies of Equestria, or will his past deeds come to drag him back into the dark past he has tried to bury?"

I haven't read it, so maybe the actual story is less edgy, but the basic premise sounds the same. (I'm sure the actual plotlines are totally different, obviously.)
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>>37110160
I guess, but the comparison feels like trying to tell me that the fall of paradise from the bible and WAll-e are fundamentally the same story.

Correct in only the loosest sense of the word
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>>37110177
There's only six stories.
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>>37110226
Yeah.


Still not going to convince me that the final arc of starlight over detrot wasnt a shot for shot remake of the penultimate arc of Project Horizons
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It's often said the first few hundred words hook or turn away the reader. Obviously this can't be used with every genre, but can a cold opening rectify that? Does it hook you, if it is used?
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>>37111049
What drives me away is poor grammar or anything to tip me off that the author cannot write, so a cold opening won’t circumvent that.
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>>37111049
>"The pony will stand on the pad."
>"The pony will use her magic as trained to neutralise the heavy ion beam."
The things you're talking about only work if they're good. Sometimes, they're very, very good.
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>>37111049
Honestly if the premise is interesting, the writing is at least decent, and the author hasn't vanished three years ago/it's finished I'll give it a shot.
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>>37080322
Are there any fanfics where ponies resisting being food or avoiding predators or being forced to cooperate with predators is a driving part of the narrative?
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>>37111049
Bullshit. What hooks me is soul. If the story has a clear inspiration and vision what it's doing, I'll read it regardless if the grammar is shit or whatever. You can be the best writer of all time, if you're a soulless creative husk you're worthless.
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>>37111077
Vanca is best girl. The ending did her dirty. But at least she and Celestia got a little reunion together.

also I always play adrenaline rush and stop the train on repeat when gravity is rescuing fusion and when trying to stop the hammer respectively.
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>>37111148
>I'll read it regardless if the grammar is shit
Big disagree, I have 0 tolerance for ESL. Can;t get immersed, and there will be no richness in the language.
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>>37111365
Every time I see B in the feature bar I die a little inside.
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>>37111365
>Can;t
I giggled
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Hey, is this story any good?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/8222/world-of-chaos
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>>37111447
I haven't read that one but I did read Luna's Dreamscape Journey from that author and it was pretty neat.
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>>37108910
>A series of Fallout Equestria fic
So?
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>>37111365
Why do you care? Language is a tool.
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>>37111775
You are a tool!
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>>37111775
>Why do you care if I use a knife to hammer nails? A knife is a tool.
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>>37112008
If your knife cant hammer nails you have a shitty knife
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>>37107946
Cartoon physics, with an emphasis on flattening.

>>37108585
Yup, that's me. Stereotypical's my worst fic. Don't bother reading it. Most of the published version of Regent will be scrapped, too, if I ever finish it.

>>37108811
>satirical masterpiece
It's literally a "Dash helps Pinkie bake" shipfic subversion. That genre was quite popular before Cupcakes utterly trashed it. I even seem to remember Sprinkles saying he wrote it because he hated PinkieDash, but that might be a false memory.

>>37109842
It'd be interesting if he was a literal centurion who was pulled away from the collapse of the Roman Empire--the "end of the world" in his eyes--but this just sounds like a standard edgy HiE fic

>>37111049
Being dumped right into the story is almost always a good call regardless of genre. Most readers will read through the first chapter, unless it's complete shit, so the key is a good "hook" at the end of the chapter to get the reader to want more.

>>37111775
Dialogue is one of the most important parts of a fic. If the author can't write proper sentences, he definitely can't get the character voices correct.
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>>37112104
I would compare it as the MHA of the HiE fics. Fairly tropey, and somewhat predictable but done particularly proficiently

Just wish it didnt have everyone such cuddlesluts
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>One Downvote
>After five minutes
Sorry I spoke up, i'll go eat some grass or something.https://www.fimfiction.net/group/50/the-writers-group/thread/471626/case-study-negative-force
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>>37111775
It’s distracting and also I’m an editor lol
>>37111786
This!
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>>37112340
You tried. Gave you an upvote, anyway.
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>>37112389
>Humanity deleted
Why are we still here then?
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>>37112389
You tried? You tried what?
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>>37112407
Just to suffer?
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>>37112407
We rejected our humanity.
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>>37111077
>"The pony will stand on the pad."
>Or else the pony gets the hose again.
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More retardation and research into Fimfiction's quirks.

Another thing that didn't get in the screenshot: Fimfiction's wordcounter was altered sometime between 2016 and 2018. Copying a chapter from before then into a new one will give a different word length.
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>>37113676
God at this point one of you are going to find some buffer overflow into privilege escalation in the blog system which makes knighty's head exploode or something.
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>>37111379
Who is B? B_25?
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>>37113777
Him, yes.
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>>37111148
Tell me then a decently written story that's confirmed ESL
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>>37114038
Ameritards are usually way worse at grammar than non Americans.

As for your question, pick a random Aragon story.
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>>37114038
the enchanted library.
monochromatic is mexican. her first language is spanish.
>>37114047
fuck that guy, big words and arrogance aren't a substitute for good writing.
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>want to write
>scared of people figuring out I'm ESL
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>>37114051
Anon didn't ask for good stories, just decently written ones. Ara's still fit that.
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>>37114059
Hey, I'm ESL and nobody has caught on for years.
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>>37114059
Just write garbage where you constantly mix up you're and your and they're and their. People will assume you're American.
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>>37114068
fuck him anyway!
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>>37114085
He do be looking cute. I'd tap his ass, sure.
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>>37114076
tf is esl
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>>37114139
English as a Second Language.
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>>37114047
>rent free poster uses reddit spacing
why am I not surprised?
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>>37114163
I just like to keep different topics separated in different paragraphs, the way you'd know how to do if you'd ever written a story that wasn't absolute garbage.
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>>37114186
>he doesn't indent
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>>37114195
>he doesn't know that fimfic automatically replaces your indenting with paragraph breaks
>he brings up indenting on 4Chan
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>>37114051
>the enchanted library.
I've read that, at least excerpts, and never would have guessed. The writer either got VERY proficient at the language, or he got a great proofreader/editor
Also, that makes me think, where could a total newcomer to fimfiction get a proofreader/editor?
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>>37114237
There are editor groups, or you can also just know someone.
>The writer either got VERY proficient at the language, or he got a great proofreader/editor
I know it's a lot of information for your smooth brain to process, but ESL people are FORCED to study English in school, in mandatory classes with (at least here) tests where you only pass with above 70% grading. Unless you're an idiot or a cheater (which many people are), a child, or your teacher was a brainlet, any ESL person will at the least have a stable understanding of English, and can be a lot better than that if they're not lazy idiots. The way you study grammar and sentence structure and all that jazz as an ESL is potentially better than the preparation the average English speaker gets.
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>>37114327
you seem upset
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>>37114199
>4Chan
>not 4Channel
You have to go back.
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>>37114512
>capitalizing chan
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>>37114570
Yeah, only Hiro can capitalize 4chan
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>>37114237
There are editing groups, but I am somewhat skeptical of the quality of editing provided considering most of the editors can't write coherent sentences for their bios. I like editing, though, so as long as it isn't too weird or long I'd be happy to take a look at it.
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>>37114587
I'm giving you a pity (you) because I know that sounded cleverer in your head, Anon.
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>>37114059
Put a few fancy words from a thesaurus here and there. Not pretentious words, but something that sounds precise, like a rare color.
I always assume people who effortlessly sprinkle their literature degree all over the page actually are natives.
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Oh here's depressing news for half this thread.
Today I learned that schizo actually just means "not social". Like staying at home and posting on an imageboard instead of going outside and socializing at bars.
I thought it meant basically being Bleedin, but turns out I have to take my mares, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder
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So, And Hell Followed has now finished -- 109k words in total.
I liked the concept a lot, but the writer pushing themselves to crank out a chapter a day took its toll; the whole thing needed a ton of polish.
Ending was just as miserable as expected, and I applaud the writer for not copping out and going for the mushy ending that everyone wanted, though there are still a lot of unanswered questions that hopefully an epilogue will clean up.
Anyone else been reading it?
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>>37114977
Hey, author of And Hell Followed here. I agree it needs a ton of polish and I'm gonna work on actually cleaning it up now that I'm not murdering myself to get chapters out.

Thanks for reading
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>>37114756
You didn’t learn jack shit. Schizo just means split. Your link is about a specific personality disorder, not the prefix. When people say schizo, 90% of the time they’re referring to someone with schizophrenia.
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>>37115007
Schizophrenia is also not the full word, it's just one of three that fall under the schizo- prefix.
There;s no escape, anon.
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>>37115006
>I'm gonna work on actually cleaning it up now that I'm not murdering myself to get chapters out.
Glad to hear it. What inspired it, anyway? You just wake up one morning and think "what if all the horses were dead and/or miserable?"
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>>37115036
Originally it was just a Quills and Sofas Speewrite entry for the Cheerilee contest.

I had been been playing RE8 a lot and so I just thought "hey monster ponies that look like wolves sound cool" and wrote the first chapter in less than an hour with that premise.
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>>37113769
But wait, there's more. And here is your daily reminder that the internet is held together by glue and popsicle sticks:
The 1000 chapter limit only checks for published chapters. 1000 published chapters or more? Hide the new chapter button. But there's nothing stopping you from creating new chapters if you have 999 published and the rest are unpublished. And once you reach 1000 published chapters? There's nothing checking for how many chapters you've published on the chapter end of things, so a yet unpublished chapter can still be published. So you can, effectively, get over 1000 chapters.
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Hot take: If you can't tell your story within the confines of 300k words at most, you probably should just stop writing, or write an anthology instead of a single fic
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>>37115121
Or, stop judging people for having a different style.
If your style is "telling the plot as fast as possible", that's okay, but not all fics are primarily about unrolling the plot at max speed.
More description and character development is not bad.
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>>37115121
I like long fics. It's something you can't typically find in books these days.
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>>37115121
Damn, I guess Tolkien was a hack then. (replace Tolkien with popular successful author of your choice)
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>>37115085
Does the 1000 word floor limit for stories apply cross-chapter, or is it required to have one chapter of 1000 words? In other words, will fimfic accept the most irritating 1000 word story possible i.e. 1000 chapters each with a single word?
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>>37115195
In theory it will, but only if those are real words and not the fake 1 word the story counts when there are 0. I've released a story with a bunch of smaller chapters adding up to over 1000 before, so that definitely works.
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>>37115195
it's total. ten 100 word chapters would pass muster, though there are other reasons why that's retarded.
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>>37115195
Site staff will smack you if your chapter goes under 400~ish words.
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>>37115931
Not necessarily, depends on how you do it.
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>>37114756
oh no a label!
the fuck? You almost made me give a shit when you said you had news
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>>37116204
Fair enough!
Screw labels. Fuck 'em! I'm not crazy, the doctors are crazy!
Or something.
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>>37114059
What this guy said >>37114077 but also make sure to use "it's" and "its" interchangeably, that's like 100% American camouflage
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>>37115121
I've yet to find a fic that length that wasnt an anthology
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>>37114047
I'd rather he do more comics, I love those. The one with Pinkie getting a divorce from Cheese and the foetus tree one are great.
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>>37115121
Honestly, agreed. It's rare that I find anything over 100k that doesn't have pacing issues.

>>37115153
Rowling, please.
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>>37115132
>More description and character development is not bad.
Sure, but it's pretentious to think your horseword epic necessarily needs 1M words to give a compelling view of the characters and narrative. Another hot take: you can probably tell anything you used 1 million words for in 500k. 1M is literally Harry Potter-tier. And think about how many things HP tells across its seven books. Now compare that to any of the 1M+ fics on Fimfic
>>37115153
Tolkien was a great worldbuilder, but his prose doesn't always have a great flow. It's too verbose at times, but from a technical standpoint, it's pretty much flawless. Also, the Lotr trilogy clocks in at just under 500k words. Then again, considering the amount of things told, AND the worldbuilding, it's not that long
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>>37116718
I mean, Prey and a Lamb tells quite a lot of stuff
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>>37116718
>1M is literally Harry Potter-tier. And think about how many things HP tells across its seven books.
Awful example. The pacing goes to shit after the third book. The 5th book is far and away the worst in this regard. It's like 24% of the series just on its own.
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>>37116712
Eyes on You is about 150k and it flowed pretty well. If you don't mind romance that is. Of course there's a couple of stories I follow that stretch into the 300k mark and still aren't fucking finished.
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>>37116718
>Sure, but it's pretentious to think your horseword epic necessarily needs 1M words to give a compelling view of the characters and narrative
Right, but what I'm saying is: It's not about need!
Maybe the writer enjoys spending a lot of time and meandearing, and if that's what they like to write, shit, I ain't a customer what right do I have to criticize.
It's not like longfics are objectively right. They have their audience. I like longfics.

>Another hot take: you can probably tell anything you used 1 million words for in 500k. 1M is literally Harry Potter-tier. And think about how many things HP tells across its seven books. Now compare that to any of the 1M+ fics on Fimfic
Yes. Right.
And I'll grant you one thing: I'm being the devil's advocate here, because there's definitely such a thing as going too far. I'm not saying basic ass plot needs 30M words wrapped around it. I'm just saying plot is not the end all be all objective measure of how long a fic should be.

Hell, some books have no plot. Screw conformity. Write experimental crap.

You're judging how long a book "deserves" to be by how much is strictly needed to say it, like some kind of priest measuring exacly HOW MUCH FUN you are allowed to have. You can have entire chapters where nothing new happens. Like my life. Sad face.

Your hot take is like if you told people to stop doing things that make them happy because only a little amount was enough to make them sort-of-smile.
FUCK THAT. Add words if you like words. Don't let anon be the judge of literary right and wrong.
Strunk & White were punks, anyways.
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>>37115036
>"what if all the horses were dead and/or miserable?"
This is just a Bloodborne crossover waiting to happen
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>>37116768
Timberwolves all over the shop.
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>>37116795
O Luna, of the Moon, of The Dream...
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>>37116768
I think you misspelled Cthulhu Mythos.
Which, to be fair, Bloodborne takes from even more than people realise.
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>>37116753
>Strunk & White were punks, anyways.
And wrong half the time, too. https://youtu.be/ZrRKJrTPwYg
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>>37114237
I don't think I would have noticed any grammatical errors anyway. Far too distracted by the cute pictures.
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>>37116743
Eyes on You is great, but it's also two stories in one.
There's a clear distinction between "Trixie getting back on her hooves in Ponyville while shipping slowly blooms" and "Magic Tournament in Manehattan while shipping quickly blooms".
They still flow well enough, so that never bothered me.
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>>37116925
It's even easier to get distracted by the cute ponies.
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I need tropey fic suggestions of long running human in equestria with edgy backstories.


I feel like ive read them all
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post limit, post limit, you know what that means

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>>37117326
I mean, sure.
We're still on page 2, though.
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>>37117326
You jumped the gun, Bonnet!
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>>37117291
It's too easy to get distracted by cute ponies.



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