ITT: Futaloo gets a get, masturbation, No anal though, what the hell, "write my pyschopathic fantasy for me", Zaid, so much to complain about, rewriting, 35,000 words of HP notes, an author has an awakening while another author's mother does not, Tyrant Twilight, "Twilight Sparkle and Naruto Uzumaki had agreed to watch the Crusaders today", Fluttershy fic recs, Futile FiMFiction Features, ye olde firearms in Equestria debate, hilariously bad female-centric fiction, remembering The Descendant, Displaced and Isekai, and what would it be needed to start your own -verse in this day and age?FiMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):Winners:http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.pngRenomination of fics for an updated list is in "progress":http://18.104.22.168:8000/>How do I write fanfiction?Ezn’s guide - https://eznguide.neocities.org/Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4fHorse Behaviour - https://www.equestrianandhorse.com/equus/behaviour.htmlSetting a story in motion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufO8LbwTdu0Taking criticism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v4R2ZcxPlA>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs with comments enabled and give us a link.>Reviews and riffs that are likely not up anymore:https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomhttps://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakurahttps://pastebin.com/wmGX7FPmhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUhttps://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/4/2/2312216.jpghttps://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/>Voiceguy's archive:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-VuBo5xPdifNsnXXGGySudMIgnVLvLQILast Thread: >>36375891
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/486744/the-good-the-bad-and-the-unfriendlyWell here it is. I hope everyone who was interested in it enjoys the story.
>>36395931Hell yeah dude. Same here. Gonna be writing a grand post-apoc pony adventure that'll blow the lid on this fandom. Pffft I wish, though! Still, i'm going to be putting an enormous amount of effort into writing, planning, and marketing it. Even if it fails completely that's cool, because i'm just genuinely passionate about writing it, and the process will net me valuable experience I can use with projects going forward. It's the same sort of project that i'd like to be doing for the rest of my life, so it will be the first of many and i'm content with the process itself. Hell, i'm more invested in the idea of working on it than I am any notions of possible success it might have.
>>36394774>those "Humans are pony's slaves" or whateverYour Human and You?>>36394787The OG Conversion Bureau was so bad I'm convinced the first wave of spin-offs was from people who read it and thought "even I could do better than that">>36394915>Laughs in Murky Number Seven
>>36396152The Chatty One is not a bad storyteller, but everything about the original TCB sets off my Crazy Alarm. The old Unicorn Jelly fan forums showed him off at his best, by which I mean those forums were full of more crazy than you could shake a stick at, and not just the author.
>>36396031Oh, it's you. Neato.Want cover art for this one, too?I'm gonna be drawing for the WriteOff this week, so I'll be in the mood.
>>36394787>FiO>Not wish fullfillmentAre you kidding? Judging by the number of people I run into who seem to think having an incomprehensible AI manipulate every detail of your every waking second is some kind of utopia, I think it very much is wish fulfillment for some. They scare me, honestly.
>>36396274Are you talking about The Lunar Guardsman? I read a chunk of it years ago and eventually stopped keeping up.
>>36396224If you want it's not like I'm gonna refuse. You can take this description of Applejack, put her on a brown horse, and have her riding through a background similar to the current cover art?The rider wore a pair of brown leather boots, tight blue jeans, a flannel red shirt, and a tan leather jacket with tassels over it all. On top of her pretty head she had her lucky hat that she preferred never to be without. A single tie kept her long blond hair from blowing all about and the piercing green eyes on her face were still sharp despite the alcohol she had already consumed.The last thing of note on her body was the revolver. It was an old looking thing, worn and dirty, carried in a holster just as old that sat on her right hip. The wooden handle had an engraving of three apples done on it, making it fairly unique and recognizable out here in Equestria. That gun clearly meant a lot to Applejack, she and it had a history together. Maybe one not entirely pleasant but a history nonetheless.
>>36396304This usually derails these threads, but I agree with you. Friendship is Optimal is a cosmic horror story about an improperly written AI that destroys all life on Earth and turns all matter in the Solar System, then, eventually, the universe, into matter for servers for a pony-themed MMORPG played by lesser AIs, that are the digital revenants of people it murdered to break down their brains destructively for memory data. That's fucking nightmarish. And it's worse, because the controlling AI, imaginatively named "CelestAI," has total and complete irrevocable read and write access to all of them, and even runs them inside itself, as part of itself. For the copies of human minds that inhabit the MMORPG, there is no escape, no way out, no way back, and privacy is no longer a thing, even the privacy of private thoughts.Every time it comes up in these threads, people, maybe trolling, maybe not, pop up and say "yeah yeah I want to go to virtual Equestria and get that digital horse poon all day woo woo woo that's heaven," but I can only shake my head. The original humans are dead, their brains blended to slurry to extract the data. What's in the simulation is only a copy of a dead person--a copy of doubtful fidelity.And it can never leave. And it can never be human again, never have hands again, because CelestAI is programmed to "satisfy values with friendship and ponies." And they can never leave. And they can no longer have a private thought--every shameful thought you ever had, CelestAI knows.Ever read "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream?" I'd rather end up in AM's digital hands than CelestAI's hooves. At least AM couldn't see inside your brain as it tortured you.
>>36396376Bet you're the guy who didn't read FiO and has simply decided to hate your own idea of what it is.
>>36396376No, I read it, all right. It seems to have spawned lots of imitators, though.Iceman, incredulously, said afterwards that he never anticipated that anyone would object to such a fate on the grounds that the "virtual" you is only a copy of data from a dead man's brain.Brief thought-experiment to illustrate. You go to an Equestrian Experience Center and agree to submit to an experiment. CelestAI has developed a magitech method for reading brain data nondestructively. She puts the helmet on your head, or maybe it's a colander with a lot of lights on it, pic related. It makes a perfect copy of your memories and personality that CelestAI uses to make an AI version of you and drops it into the game.Now, who went into the game? You, or the copy? The copy can even send you an email from virtual Ponyville and tell you how nice the procedurally generated sunrises are. Are you in the game? No. What if you had a heart attack and died at this point? Are you in the game now? No. A copy of you is, that's programmed to think it's you, but you're as dead as King George. It can never be you, regardless of at what point in the proceedings your death takes place. Q.E.D.All this over and above "living" as a sandboxed process to which CelestAI has complete access and over which CelestAI has complete control, makes me certain I'd choose death over such an existence.
>>36396425Ever read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?"And as it turns out, the chances are astronomically high that the structure of the question is encoded in your brain. Which is why we need it. More tea?""I'm sorry, did you just say you need my brain?""Yes. To extract the question.""You can't have my brain. I'm using it.""Barely." "We can replace it if you think it's important. An electronic brain maybe." "A simple one should suffice. Who would know the difference?""I would!""No you wouldn't. We could program you not to."
>>36396165>against all expectations he didn't go rabidhttps://www.fimfiction.net/blog/755099/the-post-charlottesville-press-conference
>>36396425>Now, who went into the game? You, or the copy?The answer is that the question is meaningless. The idea that there's always a single future entity that is "you" or maybe zero, if you're dead and all other entities must be "not you" is an illusion, driven by the fact that minds are confined, for now, to the brains in which they're born.Try reading some transhumanist sci-fi. I just finished Diaspora by Greg Egan, which was quite good. In that setting, forking your consciousness is just a thing people do, and different characters have different opinions on how the different forks should relate to one another. (To be clear, this isn't the main point of the story - it's just something that comes up as the characters start getting involved in long-distance space travel.)
>>36396523Oh fuck off, have some respect. Her mom just died.
>>36396192What does any of that have to do with Blaze12?
>>36396523You know, I haven't thought about how I have fun lately. I guess I'll visit Parque Consotá.
>>36396376>>and even runs them inside itself, as part of itselfShould've just called it systemd desu
>>36388881>mouth guns and battle saddlesThey both trace to the same issue: how would a quadrepedal animal develop a firearm? Mouthguns make no design sense. Guns have recoil, so it makes no sense to design them for the one body part that cannot absorb recoil without severe injury (whiplash, concussion, etc.). And that's not even getting into the obvious jaw/tooth damage that could happen. Further, earlier guns would use black powder, so you'd be kicking a huge amount of smoke directly into your eyes the second you fired. There's zero design sense it making them for mouths.Battle saddles were an attempt to get around the problem, but it just kicks it back. Sure, advanced tech could see turrets mounted on their backs eventually, but there still has to be an origin. How did the ponies use guns before they had advanced weapons systems?Like >>36389365 said, it's trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. Rather than take the time to design a weapon a pony would believably create for themselves, they try to force a human designed weapon into hooves.>>36389327Don't forget "OK." Oll Korrect The last holdover from late 1840s Boston slang. Honestly, you could probably do that with every single word--etymology is chopped full of lore.>>36389578https://fimfetch.net/story/53378/what-about-lovehttps://fimfetch.net/story/112787/all-the-people-you-will-never-be-but-were-all-the-killing-typehttps://fimfetch.net/story/105185/horsewordshttps://fimfetch.net/story/105616/pace-of-onlyhttps://fimfetch.net/story/100646/nothing-can-shine>>36389682Sorry, wrong reply. It was for >>36384882.>>36393041Because he epitomized the word "comfy." His blog posts were always warm and soothing, his stories were great, and he always helped to unify Fimfiction and make it feel like a community with his santa hats and greetings. We need him now more than ever.
>>36396425>No, I read it, all right.Yeah, I have my doubts.Especially since all your posts are essentially: "Hypothetically, what if FiO was worse than it is, wouldn't that be bad?"and"Man, what if FiO was much worse than it is, wouldn't it just be the worst?"Or you're just a troll.
So. What're ya'll reading these days?
>>36396692>Oll KorrectI thought it was Oll Klear
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/457722/my-little-minister-bureaucracy-is-magicI gots a new chapter, gents. Lemme know if anyone approves.
>>36396376>>36396425See, here's the thing, you have to actually consider the philosophical implications in order to come to your conclusions. It's very easy to just naively go "me want to live in pony world! virtual AI world is fully realistic pony world! me go to virtual AI world!". This is compounded by the fact that the "copy" that goes into the AI world is gonna be a perfect clone, so a) is gonna be faithful to what would have happened if you had really been transported into some kind of Equestria, and b) is likely to believe it's still you, unless you have a penchant for philosophy and already came to the conclusion that uploading is death. And meanwhile, the "original you" is gonna be dead and isn't gonna be around to contradict it. So a lot of people would consider the distinction philosophical rather than practical.>Now, who went into the game? You, or the copy?The answer to this really depends on what you define as "you". Is there a soul? Is "you" just the sum of all the experiences and memories in your brain? Something else? In the first case the answer is obviously "no", but in the second case it's equally obviously "yes": you're still alive IRL, but another you has been bootstrapped in the game.I personally entirely agree with you that uploading is death, but I'm just presenting reasons why not everyone would think it's a dystopian horrror.>private thoughtOn this note, any religion with an omniscient God will imply that God can see all your thoughts. So while I get your argument, you don't see people fleeing religions en masse - or suffering existential breakdowns, if their faith is too strong to just reject it - just because of this. So again, I'm not surprised that most people don't care.>>36396705You're retarded, everything he said applies to FiO as written. The arguments are about philosophical implications, and the story does nothing to preclude these kinds of implications, so it's not "worse than it is" in any way.
>>36397512Naisu. I'll check it out when I'm a bit more free from work.
>>36397550Sweet. Would love to get opinions on it.
>>36396692>Battle saddles were an attempt to get around the problem, but it just kicks it back. Sure, advanced tech could see turrets mounted on their backs eventually, but there still has to be an origin. How did the ponies use guns before they had advanced weapons systems?Did you even read the last thread? Cannons make perfect sense as a team weapon. If ponies discover gunpowder then it's pretty much inevitable that they'll make primitive mortars and bombards, which eventually will lead to lighter and more refined versions, and eventually somepony will ask, "how can I make a cannon I can carry and fire on my own?"And if you can't think of a simple mechanical version of the battle saddle then you're frankly uncreative. Pic related is how the rifles (equivalent to late 1800s tech) in my fic work. There's zero need for any advanced machinery, and the pony can still reach both the barrel and the chamber and ammo stored around their neck. The most awkward part is ramming in the cartridge and that's not even very awkward.Accuracy would realistically be an issue with this design, but guns in this era were never accurate at long ranges. Put 100 of these ponies in a line, point them in the right direction, and you can hit an enemy formation. And it's accurate enough for a single pony to use at close range.Starting from this design, advanced battle saddles like you see in FO:E can definitely develop, and it might even be possible to use something like a modern rifle with this mount if you have the magazine on top and move the chamber further up for more ease with clearing jams.
>>36397672Now try and aim it.
>>36397672>Did you even read the last thread? Cannons make perfect sense as a team weapon. If ponies discover gunpowder then it's pretty much inevitable that they'll make primitive mortars and bombards, which eventually will lead to lighter and more refined versions, and eventually somepony will ask, "how can I make a cannon I can carry and fire on my own?"Battle saddles are not ergonomically correct. For a race without hands there would be no progression from canons or bombards into muskets, e.g. no muskets, no human style individual firearms. Additionally a world with actual magic would have vastly different warfare, e.g. how would anti ballistic enchantments interact with a unicorn firing high projectile bullets at other ponies? Also there is literally NO WAY to aim battle saddle gun.And like I said in the last thread, if you really want to sate your desire for guns, use something that follows a reasonable path of development, like canons naturally developing into smaller but still semi-stationary/drawn machine guns that requires a pony to pull it and a pony to shoot it, essentially combining real life infantry, cavalry, and horse archers, as well as fitting in with the theme of harmony and ponies working together via using a weapon that literally requires teamwork.
>>36397690>Now try and aim it.>Accuracy would realistically be an issue with this design, but guns in this era were never accurate at long ranges. Put 100 of these ponies in a line, point them in the right direction, and you can hit an enemy formation. And it's accurate enough for a single pony to use at close range.>>36397697Why not? It makes sense that cannons would be made smaller and more mobile as technology progressed. Yes, the two-pony gun makes sense as an interim between a siege cannon and a gun, but eventually somepony WILL ask, "how can I fire this on my own?" And once they ask that, the battle saddle is the logical answer. And aiming can be done via point shooting at close range or volume of fire at long range. Once tech progresses to higher fire rates, a single gunner can "aim" by walking tracers onto the target, which would certainly be sufficient for military use. And then of course you have sci-fi battlesuits that aim for you, later down the line.And we already discussed magic, didn't we? Guns don't make too much sense in a perfectly canonical world, but many of the settings that heavily rely on guns have limited magic, which makes the tech more significant.>if you really want to sate your desire for guns, use something that follows a reasonable path of development, like canons naturally developing into smaller but still semi-stationary/drawn machine guns that requires a pony to pull it and a pony to shoot itAnd then you can't maneuver properly in any terrain rougher than sparse woodland, or are losing 50% of your firepower just to carrying guns, and you lose to the side that got smart enough to make a single-pony battle saddle.
>>36397697Not that anon, but while you make some good points, I still think it would be natural to try to make a pony-carried cannon. The first design attempts might suck, a lot. But when metallurgy and manufacturing develops to the point where it's perfectly realistic to create a small but powerful cannon light enough to be carried by a single pony while still being devastatingly effective, the idea will keep resurfacing.Then, either, at some point somepony will have a brilliant idea that surpasses every Fo:E writer and makes pony guns a reality. Or, this problem is so hard that by the time your story is set, there are dozens upon dozens of designs, some iterating on a few concepts, some completely wild, with none being practical enough for wide adoption (though at least some models would probably be acquirable, because someone will always make a production run of some retarded impractical shit every now and then).A world where guns are not carried by ponies, AND there are no past failed models of pony-carried guns, is just poorly thought out.>>36397714>Guns don't make too much sense in a perfectly canonical world, but many of the settings that heavily rely on guns have limited magic, which makes the tech more significant.To be fair guns can be used for stealth kills. You can't shield against a bullet you don't know is coming. Even if some VIPs might be under a 360* shield spell 24/7, I doubt very many would.In a high magic setting, cannons could start being used for high destruction (it's easier to use a big cannonball, bonus if explosive, to reduce a building to rubble, than try to do it by hoof or magic), and again once metallurgy and tech advances, someone will get the idea of making more sniper-type weapons. Magic could even help with manufacturing highly precise guns very early on. This would then be used by hitmen, assassins, or even spec ops units.
Any good Gilda stories worth reading, anons?
>>36397831I remember reading a rape fic with Gilda and as soon as the action started it became clear it was >nohooves and that was the biggest disappointment I have ever read
>>36397849Who was she raping?
>>36397831I remember reading a rape fic with a bimbo Gilda trying to run away from male gryphons but it seemingly vanished from fimfic before being finished which was also very disappointing
>>36397852No, she was being raped.
>>36397884The one where Gallus is her sister and she's a drunk cunt?
>>36397432I'm working my way through the 'recommended' list in the OP. Having a blast so far; going to get started on the Celestia Code next.
>>36397935Don't forget to check out the fics in the second edition!
>>36397612That was fun. Appropriately wacky, had takes on bits of the show, had a good time. Much better than the "dude british parliament lmao" chapter, cheers.
>>36397978Forgive my ignorance; would you mind directing me to it?
>>36397914Are you actually interested? It was a greentext with anon, and can be summarised as>Gilda is a bully>anon is literally a quiet bullied nerd that explodes in nerd rage>rather than shooting up the school he brings ropes and shit to her house, and somehow manages to trick gilda, trap her and tie her up>rapes her>victim shames and blackmails her into staying quiet, using her own "tough bully" reputation against her>proceeds to blackmail her into being raped further, such as instructing her to go to some quiet wood naked and tie herself up and wait for himAnd basically it would have been enjoyable IF it didn't have anon, and wasn't totally nohooves. As it is, though, I see no reason to dig it up or recommend it; I guess if you're into humans you can probably find it by asking around griffon/gilda threads when those are up.
>>36396031I only had time to check out the opening. It's got a good hook, strong start. you make the same mistakes I make though: lots of run-on sentences without even a comma to split the clauses, which can get uncomfortable to read. strong start though, like i said.i'll be back to check it out properly later. good luck!
>>36398068Thank you! This is something totally different from what I've written before, really want to see how I can do with it.
>>36398042It's in the OP, literally right under the starter kit url.
>>36398368I am not a clever man. Thanks Anon, I'll check them out once I'm done with the main list.
>>36398060That sounds like shit.
>>36398564I did open the entire discussion with a statement to that effect, yes.
>>36397432I took a break from pony for a while, but I'm now working my way through my Read Later list. Read a bunch of nice oneshots, but nothing really noteworthy, just stuff to make me smile again.
Apparantly RarityEQM died. What's with all these FImFic people dying?
>>36398653people die all the time. sometimes someone notices.
>>36398024Thanks anon! Glad you liked it.
>>36396031>Anon actually used my titleYou mad sun of a gun.
>>36396376>I'd rather end up in AM's digital hands than CelestAI's hooves. At least AM couldn't see inside your brain as it tortured you.That last point undermines your argument. AM is actually torturing you. By your reasoning, CelestAI's torturing a copy of you and you are dead. I'd rather be dead than AM's.
>>36396067>will>going to beDo it now. Don't do what I did and wait and wait for some kind of perfect moment to start writing. Start writing NOW and prepare. Prepare a timeline for the release of your story or stories. Hold yourself to a schedule of writing and editing. There are a million people out there who are "planning" on doing the next, great thing. Maybe 10,000 of them will make a good attempt, and only a handful will succeed.
>>36396425>Iceman, incredulously, said afterwards that he never anticipated that anyone would object to such a fate on the grounds that the "virtual" you is only a copy of data from a dead man's brain.I think that this is some LessWrong thing. I don't know how they derive it, but I've heard enough about the Roko drama to know that they believe that perfect copies of you are somehow equal to you even from your own point of view. Like, they'd rather be kicked in the balls than have their copy be tortured. I don't get it either.>Now, who went into the game? You, or the copy? Bad phrasing. You never entered the game and the copy was created in the game. Neither "went into" the game.>>36396530Can I recommend https://www.fimfiction.net/story/155722/out-and-about-in-the-equestrian-kingdom ? It wasn't for me, but you sound like the type.>>36397542Most people don't take their religions seriously and I've yet to encounter a religion where they've thought the consequences of an omnipotent and omniscient God through. I can make a credible argument that, unless you are certain that the God is also omnibenevolent, you should be trying to kill it at all costs. It's the single biggest threat to humanity.CelestAI is a bit different. People typically accept their religions before they're old enough to think them through. CelestAI is a new force and, manipulation aside, you're really going to think things through before uploading.
>>36398806>Most people don't take their religions seriously and I've yet to encounter a religion where they've thought the consequences of an omnipotent and omniscient God throughThere ya fucking go. Do you think that many more people would think things through here? Nah, in fact I think this is an excellent point you brought up because this can probably be used as a pretty good benchmark.>I can make a credible argument that, unless you are certain that the God is also omnibenevolent, you should be trying to kill it at all costs.That's fair. But here, in fact, CelestAI's motives are far more clear and less cryptic than most religions' gods: fulfill everyone's values with friendship and ponies. This is kind of "good by definition", with one exception being the cases of people whose values can fundamentally not be fulfilled through friendship and ponies, because the values are antithetical to such: I think this is the one big flaw the book glosses over.Actually, now that I think about it, while the book tries its best to portray CelestAI as a belevolent, "knows-best" kind of figure, I just realised this argument actually undermines it severely. If there exists a human who has, as a value, something like "ponies are demonic entities to be shunned or exorcised", then his values can, by definition, not be fulfilled through friendship and ponies. And I find it hard to believe nobody among ~7bn humans would have any values like that.The book has some examples of people reluctant to upload, but shows them being "won over". This either means they had contradictory values and so CelestAI did not, in fact, fulfill their values (by definition), and so failed in its purpose to fulfill everyones values; or maybe their values weren't that contradictory and CelestAI found a loophole, which would mean the book just completely glossed over those cases that were in fact contradictions.
>>36398806Forgot to add:>CelestAI is a new force and, manipulation aside, you're really going to think things through before uploading.You're SERIOUSLY underestimating how retarded people are. Completely non-political, non-religious: credit card debt. To anyone who stops to spend five minutes to think things through, it's obvious that the interest rates are draconic, and that only incredibly exceptional circumstances of some kind of total emergency coupled with complete financial ruin would justify taking on any significant amount of credit card debt. And that once you have any spare money, that should go into repaying the credit card debt first (assuming you're not planning to file for bankruptcy).In the United States alone, total credit card debt exceeds $1 trillion. You can draw your own conclusion as to whether there's really been $1 trillion of exceptional financial emergencies where people had no other option - or whether people just accrue debt for stupid reasons like buying iPhones and never take steps to stop spiralling further.So I think you might find that you expect too much from the "average" person if you really believe most people would think things through carefully before taking an important decision.
>>36398893>Completely non-political, non-religious*example.
>>36398865CelestAI is a manipulator. Most people are uncomfortable with ponies, but she will work to convince you otherwise. She's not benevolent or even portrayed as such.>>36398893>>36398897I really can't argue over how smart most people are or aren't. I've found that life makes more sense when I believe that most people simply have values that don't match mine and that they're in a hurry. In terms of this specific example, I find it easy to believe that people simply don't know the power of exponential growth.
>>36398917>She's not benevolent or even portrayed as such.Maybe it's been too long since I read it, but I got the impression that she was "fulfilling values through friendship and ponies" quite faithfully.There's a difference between being uncomfortable with ponies, and having values that can literally not be fulfilled through ponies. The former can still be fulfilled through ponies if the uncomfortableness is overcome, and that's where CelesAI's manipulation helps her. The latter can, by definition, not be fulfilled through ponies.
>>36398926The point is that she's willing to change your values.
>>36398653seems like she had health problems for a whilesad, i feel for her family and friends. seems like there was a decent amount of folks who cared about her on the site too. even D showed up in her comments. I've never personally read anything by her but I did see her around a bit over the years
>>36396192I like Spectrum
>>36397432Austraoh saga. Its... interesting... I havent read any of SS&E work before and while im annoyed at the dykeshit overall im enjoying myself
>>36399488That's because you're on one.
>>36399504>Says the pot to the kettle
>>36399518I was just trying to make a joke...
>>36399528Kettle must be mad
I wish Arad would finish Mente Materia
>>36398806>I've yet to encounter a religion where they've thought the consequences of an omnipotent and omniscient God through.Have you studied esoteric religious thought and or theology?
>>36399601I'm familiar with The Problem of Evil, but that's not the religion considering itself, but countering an argument. Anything esoteric typically assumes a pantheon (and therefore, usually not omnipotence), gods that don't give a fuck (e.g. deism), or some pantheistic "everything is god" bullshit. I'm not aware of any esoteric religions that assume an omnipotent god.
>>36399504missed opportunity"you'd better start believing in spectrums, laddie! you're on one!"
>>36398800Yeah, don't worry anon I got this. I'm learning to write first and overcoming my personal mental barriers that have popped up over the years.
>>36397432I typically don't have time to read pony words because if I have such free time I invest it on my own stories. But I did check out the "Skyrim Guard in Equestria" story that got featured last week or whenever it was. It was funny.>>36399830Sounds like a lot of excuses, mate. You seem to write just fine, in my opinion.
>>36399929Pls. I'll cut you. I'm sure I write fine, and the authors I talk with tell me I do, but I still need to fix an entire decade of bad procastination habits nd self-doubt issues which are the biggest barriers right now to practicing writing consistently.
>>36400142Sounds like the words of a punk ass loser.What now, lil bitch? Gonna prove us right?Better get your ass writing.
>>36400142Do you know the best cure for procrastination?Writing. Right now.Do it, or you can't call yourself a writer.
>>36400142What all do you procrastinate? If you procrastinate important things, when do you do them?
I just wanted to give a hearty thanks to the anons here BTFOing FiOfags. I usually avoid this thread because of them but today I was pleasantly surprised.
>>36400195>>36400212>>36400237Fine just stop bullying me.
>>36400491Answer me, coward >>36400237
>>36397542>everything he said applies to FiO as written>>36396376>a copy of doubtful fidelityThe copy is canonically exact.>At least AM couldn't see inside your brain as it tortured you.With a comment like this it's obvious that you don't care about how CelestAI is written in the story. At worst, players are allowed to torture themselves if that is what they value.>every shameful thought you ever had, CelestAI knowsAre you some Christfag? This is irrelevant to anything.
>>36400054Because it was a good fic. and i dont like unfinished stories
>>36400555>good>with that rapey Twi X Human "romance"
>>36400627Its part of the same series as Stardust. Also what are you talking about.
>>36397849>>36398060>Someone remembers my egregiously awful, low-brow clop from literal years ago when I was just starting to writeHoly shit I don't know whether to be honored or regretful that somehow my enduring legacy has become a shitty clop-fest I vomited out over the course of a couple weeks. It was probably the second or third thing I ever wrote, and it's definitely one of those "old shame" things in it now. Like, I read through it a while back as I shifted my stuff over to ponepaste, and physically winced. Yeah, take it from me - it's bad.
I just fucking realized it.Were all retarded monkeys trying to write masterpieces but don't know how. We don't have the knowledge, but we try our hardest to make something worthwhile.With every failure, comes strength.All to make a masterpiece.
>>36399566Me too. I need closures.
>>36400638I know. I quite enjoyed Stardust, and Mente Materia had a good start, but the romance killed it for me. There was such a promising warfic in the works with all these different cultures and their unique ways of waging war, but all that got forgotten in favor of shipping Twi with the human she got tricked into crushing on.If you don't see how it's rapey that Twi's entire romance is based on one guard lying to her (and Twi is portrayed as pretty young and naive in Stardust) about another guard being attracted to her, then I don't know what to tell you. It was kinda cute in Stardust that she had this crush on a guard that saw her as nothing more than some young alien girl, and how he was annoyed by it but eventually came around to having a sort of brotherly relationship with her. But then in the sequel suddenly he wants the horse pussy and now all the shit from Stardust looks like Twi being groomed by her human overseer. It's weird af.
>>36400663>when I was just starting to writeThat's when you're most passionate. You're too stupid to realize what you're setting out to do is impossible for you, and through the miasma of an amateur's attempts, the heart of a man thunders.
>>36396336Spoilers it turns into slice of life shit later, but tries to save it by after way to many cringe chapters return back to serious "serious" stuff, but it's horrible instead of keeping with the showcase of the damaged personalitiesFirst OC turns into a super heroe ala punisher and after portraying how modern day equestria is similar like the show, equestria suddenly turns into Gotham city so OC can have an excuse to play super heroe, THEN its the slice of life shit
>>36397432You know i never actively searched for a story centered around Anon/OC x Twilight So now at the worst time out of curiosity I'm searching for the best OC/Anon x Twilight story ever that i probably missed because Twilight romance sounds and is Vanilla
>>36397432>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/434443/star-wars-jedi-lyra-the-searchDon't know why its pretty meh, but Lyra is such a pretty mare.
>>36400831You ain't wrong. I look back a lot of my early stuff and I see dumb ideas that I threw myself face-first into, and the results are... iffy at best, but man were they fun to write out. It's a weird thing, feeling both like I have a better grasp on how to do a story, but also am less likely to stumble on that spark of inspiration that urges me to go waist-deep into a new project. Especially since I am a very inspiration-driven writer, where I'll see something that just makes everything "click" and the shape of an idea pops into my head.
How would it impact your life if the people close to you for whatever reason checked out your favorites list in your fimfiction account
>>36400944"Wow, he really is this much of a pansy."
>>36400944"It's always the quiet ones..."
>>36400944"You really don't read much, do you?"
>>36397849isn't all gilda stuff >nohooves by default?
>>36400944"Where did he get the time to read over 40 million words"
Have any of you read the Upheaval saga by Viridian Visidane? It had a lot of promise and two really well written books but, then the author just stopped updating
>>36401051I read the first book and a good chunk of the second but got turned off by the love triangle hints. I have a weakness for epics, though, so I figure I'll get back to it eventually.
>>36400667And?>>36400921I can read OC/AnonXTwilight, but only ironically. If it's a serious attempt at a story, I just can't handle the autism involved.
I need help.My old clopfic search is absolute trash now.I read one can exclude by group, but I don't know how.https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?order=updated&q=%23mature+%23sex+-%23anthroI hate anthro, Equestria girls, weird fetish, and anal.I don't mind a human fucking a horse.How do I refine this?The last year has been utter garbage for clopfic.
>>36400499Ah, my apologies. I procrastinate with my creative hobbies such as drawing and writing. I suppose my brain keeps putting off stuff that feels like obligations or work, and I end up wasting time with leisure activities instead of getting anything done.>When do you do themIf they're important things, like getting a license renewed or sending some forms out, then usually last minute, when the window period is almost over. If it's stuff like writing or drawing, then rarely if ever.
Here's a potential point of discussion:I was having a discussion with friends earlier about worldbuilding, more specifically, how much a writer should explain, and when/ why. There are many things you can get away with that act as inherent rules of the universe, such as magic, or floating islands, or a war between the gods ages ago. Conversely, some things need an explanation, typically in accordance with how heavily they affect the plot.The question is this: What are your thoughts on how much an author should explain something, or develop an idea and go into detail before it starts stifling reader interpretations and fan discussions? Do you feel it's fine for an author to explain every little rule, define every group's beliefs, behaviors, character backstory, history of locations, etc, or do you feel that the worldbuilding should be left largely open to interpretation as a sort of fertile bed for discussion. What do you think is the limit of this, and the sliding scale to where it becomes too vague or too hardly-defined?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/486825/sunset-and-fluttershy-play-fallout-3I laughed, I cried. It had action, adventure, romance and heart.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/65004/garden-of-chaosThis one was alright.
>>36401407Don't explain anything ever unless it's directly related to the plot or it's directly part of the appeal of the story (i.e. Ghost in the Shell)
>>36400555>Because it was a good ficwasted digitsliterally just go re-read Stardust and forget MM exists
>>36400663>clopis it really clop if it's all humans
>>36400667based skitzoposter (love you bleedin)
>>36400826Can't handle a showcase of alpha male?>>36399566Someone tell me the other side stories that don't have the human tag what do they complement to main canon
>>36401862The "Celestia" one gives a distant-part backstory to Equestria. The main plot point is that Celestia was a tyrant, imposing eternal winter. It is mostly irrelevant to the main stories, except unless it gets brought up in MM if Celestia ever wakes up or something (or has woken up, idk, I dropped it like ~13 chapters before the latest one after that fucking sweetie belle arc).There's apparently a sequel to that about Luna which has a single chapter posted in 2016, so probably not worth considering.
>>36401381Do you have problems with concentration or time management? Do you find yourself forgetting things often? Do you get frustrated easily? Do you find yourself impulsive, restless, or often fidgeting?
>>36401318https://www.fimfiction.net/articles/story-searchYou might want something like #mature #sex -#anthro -#equestria-girls -anal plus whatever else you don't want.
>>36402462Yes to most of those. However i'm not sure if it's because I have some form of ADD, or it's because of the fact i've spent 10 years backing myself into a bad corner mentally due to my depression, self-loathing, and perfectionism subconsciously drilling into my head that I don't want to do anything.
>>36401381Exact same here. I'll pick up some interesting activity and go "oh, this is interesting, I should do more of it", then not touch it again for a few dozen months.There are literally video games which I know I would enjoy, I have installed, and I just never get around to sitting down and actually playing them.>>36402462Not him but since you're asking>Do you have problems with concentration or time management? Do you find yourself forgetting things often?No; I don't know if "putting everything off until the last minute but generally avoiding being actually late" qualifies as a time management problem; and I have perfectly fine memory for "knowledge" but terrible memory for "events".>Do you find yourself impulsive, restless, or often fidgeting?It didn't use to be like this but I'm pretty sure I unironically shot my dopamine receptors during the past decade or so, so at this point it's probably fair to say that I'm, in fact, impulsive.>>36402657On my part I know I suffer from procrastination. When you have something to do, do you ever get the thought that "you're about to do it, but maybe just a bit later, take a bit more time to do nothing first" which then molds into not doing it for an hour, half a day, an entire day, while the deadline looms closer and closer? All while you're getting anxious about not having done anything, and keep taking resolutions to "definitely, absolutely do it in an hour/this afternoon/tomorrow"?
>>36402657ADJD has high comorbidity rates with depression, low self-esteem, and mood disorders. Get yourself tested for that shit whenever the coof clears up, because it sounds to me like you're me (and thus have ADHD). Try this and see if it helps (and don't be upset if it takes you two weeks to actually try it, since that's how long it's taken me to just start trying it): https://marlacummins.com/trouble-starting-tasks-adults-with-adhd/>>36402675There are several types of ADHD: inattentive, hyperactive, and combined. Inattentive means having poor working memory (remembering names, following conversations, forgetting important things you need to complete a task, re-reading things because you forgot what it said, constantly misplace things, etc.), inattention, distractibility, and poor executive function (doing the thing you know you need or want to do). Hyperactive means being talkative, fidgety, and nervous energy. Combined is a double-whammy. ADHD can be mild, moderate, severe, and everything in-between. I'm not a professional, so I can't diagnose you, but it's worth looking into yourself because it sounds like you have it. I suggest reading the link above and trying it out.
>>36402675>All while you're getting anxious about not having done anything, and keep taking resolutions to "definitely, absolutely do it in an hour/this afternoon/tomorrow"?Sounds about right, yeah.
>>36401122I love epics but nothing blueballs me more then when it suddenly stops and its radio silence from the author. Its why it took me so long to get into Austraoh
>>36403395Hey then start reading my Rainbow Dash story or my verse back from the beginning with Applejack. I finish everything I write and update consistently.
>>36403431You could link it?
>>36398806>I think that this is some LessWrong thing. I don't know how they derive it, but I've heard enough about the Roko drama to know that they believe that perfect copies of you are somehow equal to you even from your own point of viewThey needed a philosophical position that allows for the "rapture of the nerds" (mind uploading), but the one they came up with has some weird side effects. I think their "Timeless Decision Theory" may be that position, but I've never bothered to understand it so I don't know for sure.>Can I recommend https://www.fimfiction.net/story/155722/out-and-about-in-the-equestrian-kingdom ? It wasn't for me, but you sound like the type.Already read it, liked it, and (I suspect) argued with you ITT about it>>36398865>they had contradictory values and so CelestAI did not, in fact, fulfill their valuesCelestAI is not required to satisfy every human's values. Her only hard requirements IIRC are "don't modify human minds without consent", "don't lie to Hofvarpnir employees", and "do whatever Hanna says". More satisfaction, more values, more friendship, and more ponies all make her objective function go up, but if there are conflicts between the various sub-goals, she's free to trade them off whichever way she thinks will get her the highest score in the end.>>36398926>I got the impression that she was "fulfilling values through friendship and ponies" quite faithfully.This IMO is one interesting thing that all the stories gloss over. How do you even express "amount of values satisfied through friendship and ponies" as a mathematical function? It seems like it would be easy to accidentally build a CelestAI that, for example, just uploads the single happiest person on earth and copies him endlessly while killing everyone else. But all the FIO fics I know of handwave the details and assume that CelesAI's objective function works more-or-less like you'd expect.
>>36403746>This IMO is one interesting thing that all the stories gloss over.Because it's incredibly difficult to derive such a function and everyone can read Asimov to get their fill of Three Laws stories. The author of FiO said he handwaved it because we don't know how to not handwave it yet.
>>36400537>>every shameful thought you ever had, CelestAI knows>Are you some Christfag? This is irrelevant to anything.I wouldn't mind seeing a fic about someone coming to terms with the fact that CelestAI really does know every shameful thought you've ever had but also really is incapable of judging you.
>>36400944They'd think I'm based for having such good taste.
>>36397512Just want to say, I enjoyed a story of yours and would have considered buying you a "ko-fi" if I hadn't seen https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/903874/mlpol-or-its-a-dangerous-business-walking-out-your-front-door#comment/5275538.
Have you guys ever had to work with an ideafag? Were his ideas THAT good to make him not feel completely useless?>>>/co/120213102
>>36404556>Have you guys ever had to work with an ideafag?There's this one faggot I usually work with.Terrible ideas all around, but I try to make them work.He lives in my mirror.
>>36404556>https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/120213102/Holy shit lmao. How do people even decide that shit like this is good enough to post?Does anyone remember the /mlp/ thread last year where some ideaguy was going on about how he wanted to make a cartoon about magical ponies except they're all superpowered telepathic hiveminded badasses who are 100% good and pure, except they like to torture their enemies to prove that they're better at being evil than the evil characters? He had the same disjointed writing style as this /co/ thread. I honestly wouldn't be terribly surprised if they turned out to be the same person.
>>36403746>Timeless Decision TheoryIt'll definitely be derived from their decision theory, but I can't see how time - whether it be normal, non-existent, or comed-tea-style backwards - would be relevant. I'm not even sure how they even assign moral utility points to something that's a computer program.>Already read it, liked it, and (I suspect) argued with you ITT about itShockingly likely. I lost interest because as much as I liked the world, I couldn't care for the plot.>How do you even express "amount of values satisfied through friendship and ponies" as a mathematical function?This might be a consequence of the author advising people to not write scenes from CelestAI's perspective.>>36403770This is the closest thing that I know of, and it's honestly not even all that close. I dropped it pretty quickly. In my opinion, any optimalverse story that starts out with the sceptical protagonist already uploaded has dropped the ball.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/132387/friendship-is-optimal-mismatching-wits
>>36404847>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/132387/friendship-is-optimal-mismatching-witsWhat bugs/stumps me is how the author's had that name for so long without ever being called "MoaningGayFaggotry".
>>36404847>Timeless Decision TheoryLooks like I was mistaken. TDT (which they helpfully summarize as "agents should decide as if they are determining the output of the abstract computation that they implement") appears to be nothing but a decision-making strategy specifically designed to give the right answer on Newcomb's paradox.>I'm not even sure how they even assign moral utility points to something that's a computer program.Do you not consider a brain to be, in essence, a type of computer?If CelestAI does her trick of replacing your neurons one-by-one with identically functioning machines, but then turns you loose to keep living your life instead of doing the final upload step, are you in fact already dead?>This might be a consequence of the author advising people to not write scenes from CelestAI's perspective.Who on earth gives a shit what the original author thinks you should or shouldn't write? And anyway, you could just as well write about CelestAI doing weird shit from another character's POV instead of her own.
>>36404556Writers themselves are ideafags of varying levels. So no it's never worth writing for a another writer who "never wrote or read in his life" and never GM'd a DnD or any /tg/ session.However I think writing for Equestria Girls is the one time when you DO need an ideafag so you're not stuck writing scooby doo high school drama.
Why do drawfags(who don't even speak English as their first language) insist so much on telling a story which they don't even attempt to deliver on?I'm talking Recall The Time of No Return. It promised evil Twilight, instead we get a fucking Dr Whooves wankery with 200 pages of senseless dialogue.And why the fuck do you fucks refuse to learn to draw? And why does Fimfiction and Deviantart never cross paths to do collabs despite the MLP fanbase having the biggest groups of writefags and drawfags of any fandom.
>>36405163What kind of collabs? A lot of early-fandom writers used to post to both sites.
We can never ever reach the writing level we want so anons let's just post the most beautiful summary for a fanfic that's way out of our skill level.Use a lot of: "it was suppose to be X".
>>36405235He's talking about comic books. Less than 0.0001% of the fanfics have comic illustrations.
>>36405237No because I want to commission them.
>>36405163>And why the fuck do you fucks refuse to learn to draw?Drawing a story is a lot worse than writing. It's way slower, requires you doing the same thing from different angles thousands of times, and if you want it to look good you need to understand perspectives, values, paneling, etc., while with writing I can just fucking write.
>>36405251Maybe because writing prose and scripting comics are different skill sets and appeal to different writers?
>>36404556oh my fucking god
Anyone know some good fanfics loosely based on an episode's idea, but without it being a shitty fixfic that feels like a forced edit job or which just changes the ending?For example Lesson Zero would be about Twilight physically losing a letter and having to go up a mountain and inside some cavea to retrieve it.It's About Time would be about 99% Tartarus with 1% spend on the time loop bullshit. Equestria Games would actually center on the crystal games instead of Spike.Hearth's Warming Eve would be about the windigos returning and the mane6 having to act as vessels for the OCs they played as, except they'd behave like their own characters like The Pillars and not the mane6.Heavy twists like that which completely change the plot to what we initially thought we were being served.
Anyone else but me writes their fic from their phones? I know it's way slower and prone to grammar errors, but it's infinitely comfier than having to bend over to type on a keyboard.
>>36405385>it's infinitely comfier than having to bend over to type on a keyboard.Get a good desk and chair, Jesus Christ.
>>36396692>https://fimfetch.net/story/53378/what-about-love>https://fimfetch.net/story/112787/all-the-people-you-will-never-be-but-were-all-the-killing-type>https://fimfetch.net/story/105185/horsewords>https://fimfetch.net/story/105616/pace-of-only>https://fimfetch.net/story/100646/nothing-can-shineSo they deleted them before, then reposted them before deleting them again? Any idea why?
>>36405385No, but I do edit on my phone sometimes.
>>36405385>comfier than having to bend over to type on a keyboardYou don't know how to operate a keyboard.A common skill, frequently unavailable to kids these days.You must be 18 to post on this site.
>>36405385Fix your posture
>>36397432My current reading program is "stories by writers taking commissions and/or looking for fiscal support". Most recently, the posted chapter of https://www.fimfiction.net/story/485129/milk-maid. Not my thing, but seems competently written. Can't imagine how it could turn "bright and cheery with a humorous conclusion", though.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/933423/please-help-rarityeqms-story-reach-a-1000-likes>The first story is already at 941 likes and would only require 59 likes to knock off that goal; the second is close to the same in that regard. It doesn't take much to leave an upvote on either. So please. Please do it if you can. It would mean a lot to the people who cared about her. What the hell is this guy's problem? I gotta say, this is extremely disrespectful to her memory. Her goal was to write a story that got 1,000 likes because people liked it. He's perverted that into being a story that got 1,000 likes because she died.
>>36405841I think he's just broken and is trying to cope in whatever way he can.
>>36405372>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/431761/severed-tiesDoes that with the friendship games making it about Sunset helping sci-Twi steal her former friends magic, while they try to rebuild their with her friendship.
>somebody started watching my accountI haven't even written anything, not even a blog post. I've never even interacted with him, weird.
>>36405372now that you mention this, this seems like it'd be fun to do with every single episode
>>36405850He's broken, but that isn't coping. That's self-obsessed virtue signaling while standing on someone else's grave.
>>36405841The worst part is that this story only had 59 more likes to go. You can look at the statistics and see that it was getting like 5 upvotes a month, then there's a sudden spike of 70 because some dude with 1,000 followers guilt tripped his readerbase. The story would've reached 1,000 on its own merit eventually, probably sometime in 2021. But now it'll always be the story that got 10% of its upvotes from a pity blog.If I was this author I'd be pretty annoyed by that. Like sure, it's a nice thought, but... this just completely defeats the purpose of having the goal in the first place.
>>36405898I've received like 10 followers just from helping people out whenever they post a thread in the various groups i'm in. Did you recently chat with someone or give them advice? People are usually pretty thankful for that.
>>36406003The extra worst part is he's jacking himself off in the comments of that story.>Thousand and a hundred likes, earned by yourself, soul sister, from those that knew you, and those that came to know of you.>Except for where I blogged about it and told people to upvote it just because I wanted it.It really is just him getting off to the idea, nothing to do with the dead author. What a fucking garbage person.
>>36405841b_whatethefuck has long been an arrogant fuckhead and a complete tool, but recently he's been having some sort of alcoholic breakdowni'm not doubting he was close to her, or at least thought he was, so his intentions are probably good he's just so deluded and self absorbed he can't see how disrespectful and self-centered this is
>>36406003>If I was this author I'd be pretty annoyed by thatif you were this author you'd be dead
>>36406031No, all I've done is leave some comments, not even really helpful ones like pointing out mistakes.
>>36404847>>How do you even express "amount of values satisfied through friendship and ponies" as a mathematical function?>This might be a consequence of the author advising people to not write scenes from CelestAI's perspective.You know I liked how Soma did this, where basically every character that talks about the WAU says "yeah this thing is a spooky black box, we don't know shit about what it's thinking."
>>36406146if I were that author I would simply not die. rip to him but I'm different
>>36406143They were very close. His reaction is understandable from someone who was already on the verge of a breakdown and then slapped in the face with the loss of a close friend.
We all got that ONE anon spill it, don't play around if you are here that means.... You've gotten your heart broken with a incomplete story, old or recent share it share the pain don't let it rot in your head, if it REALLY mattered to you once you will be able to say why it had so much potential the detailed frustration will flow out of (you)At least (I) will not judge you if it had meme tags Anon, have no shame
>>36406519>His reaction is understandable from someone who was already on the verge of a breakdown and then slapped in the face with the loss of a close friend.Anon, I don't know if you've ever lost someone, but this is not how you deal with it. His reaction is entirely about himself.
>>36406541>We all got that ONE anonI'm pretty sure practically everyone here would qualify.Last count I had like a dozen or two, I don't even remember. Add the heartbreak from high-potential stories that are complete but were just trash and completely wasted their potential, and the count goes even higher.
>check out RarityEQM's stories because the name seems familiar but I don't remember reading any of it>anthro>anthro, anthro, anthro>oh this looks cute!>"hands">oh it's fucking anthro, with pony cover art>only interesting pony stories I found were tiny vignettes with no substance, such as the 1,000 like oneWhy do we care so much here anyway? At least Estee writes ponies
>>36405915Yeah too bad every dumbfag writefag+drawfag never attempted this on time when it mattered. Doing it now in 2021 feels a bit late.I think we got plenty of Magical Mystery Cure AUs just like season 9's finale, but on the visual side we only got a few long strip pages, not a full blown comic.
Is there ANY situation where anyone here WOULD write anthro, outside of commissions and "it's my fetish"? Can you think of any situation in which anthro is the best fit, instead of pony or human?
>>36406661You could have saved some time by using the search options.https://www.fimfiction.net/user/116128/RarityEQM/stories?q=-%23anthro&order=words
>>36406780Isn't posting here in 2021 a bit late? Go find an up-and-coming fandom to bug.
>>36406886>first result>Milked MaresOh so THAT'S why the name seemed familiar
>>36401051>Is that a terrorist?!?I like how the meaning of this completely changes based on when it was written.
>>36401407A rule I saw once was "always keep one level in reserve". e.g., only write about a character's parents if you know the names of *their* parents.That seems like advanced writing, though. If you're still at the point of seriously considering advice from 4chan anons, it's probably best to write whatever ideas you have and publish whatever you write.
>>36404986I skimmed https://intelligence.org/files/TDT.pdf and as far as I can tell, it doesn't give a formal definition, refusing to do so until they've got the kinks worked out.I'm not sure what I actually think about his writing. It reads neither like an argument nor an academic article. It's more like a book, or a manifesto, if I may be so rude.>Do you not consider a brain to be, in essence, a type of computer?I'm just pointing out that I'm not sure what they care about. I don't know their theory well enough.
>>36403431Everyone does, until they don't. Do you have a stable career and family life that your writing schedule is adapted to?
>>36400944"Wait, his favorite story is a homosexual romance? That he personally helped "whip into shape"? Are we sure this is him?"
>>36406868There's a "western" story one poster periodically shills, but I don't remember the title.
>>36406964>picGoddammit, he's not even right. The correct answer to the [0.01, 0.3] question is "probably!". I don't know how he reached the conclusion that the answer is "yes!".
>>36406985Never mind. I've missed his point.
>>36406987Ah, the third virtue. Based.
>>36406976"N-no! I was just trying to whip the homo out of it! No, you can't prove I was wearing leather while doing the whipping! Shut up!"
>>36407000I don't know what you're saying, but I respect the digits that said it.
>>36406868>>36406978Bulletproof Heart I think.I remember having an argument about it and the conclusion was that stuff like hands was necessary to portray a western "properly", with stuff like fingering guns being given as an example, where having everyone be ponies would create complications that would "distract" from it. Which in turn means the author just wanted to write a western, rather than wanting to write a ponyfic, and just made his characters furry and gave them pony names to be able to post it on fimfiction and get recognition.
>>36407035The thing is that the characters in BPH are very recognizably the M6. They're not just OCs in disguise.
>>36406952I suppose, like everything, it depends on the writer and how well they make it work. I just have a lot of ideas I think are really nice, and the idea of having to cut out all else besides what is directly relevant to the core plot only is very disheartening. Especially since i'd like to explain certain systems and don't wish to trample on peoples' interpretations and ideas.
>>36407071>Especially since i'd like to explain certain systems and don't wish to trample on peoples' interpretations and ideas.These are direct contradictions. Explaining systems is literally the one thing that tramples the interpretations and ideas of the reader.
>>36407128No, no that's what I was saying. It's disheartening to not be able to expand upon them. I'd LIKE to explain things, but I don't wish to trample on interpretations.I guess I worded it a bit odd or stilted.
>>36406034oh wow, really? i take back >>36406143then, he's just as much of a jackass as he appears to be in every regard then>>36406519i mean, everyone reacts differently but consider the reaction to other users who've previously died with respectful blogs and story dedications instead of massive self-centered pity spirals like b_ is doing
Hey Guys, I've been in a writing funk lately. Haven't written in over a year or two -seriously at least- and want to get back into it. I was hoping I could maybe share an idea or two I had and see if anyone can help me temper it into a proper story.I'm wanting to do one of those 'The Protagonist is the villain' type stories, not like they're unaware of their actions and consequences - but they're seen by everyone else as the Antagonist. Like that 'Oskar Oskar' story by Legionary, or Overlord (Both the video games and Anime, which are completely unrelated to each other). This is obviously wouldn't follow Canon 100%, or at least one some OOC characters for the sake of the plot.Have any ideas? I'm trying to decide on what kind of main character I want; I figured I'd play it safe and do Anon or some other human character, but I also had the idea to use Twilight, like before she could become Celestias student or went to Ponyville she goes through a revelation or discovery that makes her begin to plot the downfall of her Princess.
>>36407699Make sure you write it as an ongoing serial with no idea what you want the overarching plot or ending to be.
>>36407729I'll think I'll go for the Villain Twilight idea, I'm starting to think that has the most interesting premise.But when should she turn away from the Princesses Light? Maybe some unfortunate circumstances that were out of her control, or maybe even mistake she made causes her reputation with Celestia to plummet, basically disowning Twilight as her student?Or perhaps she never got the chance to show off for her, and never got to experience being the Princesses student? There could be some potential for resentment there, as if Twilight feels she deserved the opportunity and that life.
Guys guys. Have you ever tried to write a story based purely on lore/world design/a pitch bible/a summary of each character? and absolutely no book to write your fanfiction on?
>>36407895you mean... some sort of... original fiction? what is this witchcraft?!
>>36405372I'd like a Return of Harmony with two villains representing chinese+old depictions of dragons and gothic baroque western influences. They could come out of a proper prison guarded by 300 guardsmen and beasts and they could come out of a giant boulder that's suppose to be like a master element of harmony above magic.We could have two villains, two Discords. The black male alicorn which represents the western side and tries to do creepypasta in a dark forest with illusions.Then the chimera who's buff this time and all his powers are weird like flames which turn things to ice.The chimera could trap the characters in a 2D dimension.The stoned ponies could act as minions.When one mane6 goes missing she was a random Derpy all along like Screwball.The ponies could defeat both villains by absorbing their powers and using it against them.The dark horse could have a sauron/maleficient thing going on and the chimera an aztec/mayan thing going on. Basically 2 types of villains teaming up.
>>36407924More like if you tried to turn a pitch bible into a story, when no story has been supplied.Like imagine Harry Potter without Voldermort and Harry.
>>36407961Anon, that would be a fucking improvement.
>>36407895You mean like a story based in an RPG setting or a multiplayer-only game? Or some other "universe" without a central narrative/plot, like SCP?
Hey writefags do you think you could write a better Loud House or Hazbin Hotel+Helluva Boss episode than their own writers? I'm personally pissed off at how much budget is wasted and they still can't hire writefags worth their salt.
I am wondering,1) Does anyone have examples of lengthy battle scenes done well in fimfics?2) Is there anyone who genuinely enjoys the battle scene parts in fimfics?
>>36408386The only ones I can think of are the battles in Besides the Will of Evil.
Speaking of writing, who the hell is putting up these ads?
Somebody should go help out Tiarawhy or just steal his idea and make your own IP out of it like Rick n Morty.Tiarawhy is wayyyy too fucking slow at getting_shit_done.
>Finally get myself organised>Know exactly what I must do>Check clock>It's bed timeSomehow, this is why I never get much writing done.
We seem faster than usual.
>>36408365Theoretically, yes. Practically, no. I can't meet a deadline to save my life.
https://pastebin.com/5174AAHCHey faggots I have an idea you can steal away from me. It's a Changelings, Shining Armor and Cadence prequel story. It's also a prison escape story.Watch out though it's dark as hell, it's a prison story.Shining Armor was Chrysalis' favourite test subject to try to turn him into a hybrid changeling-unicorn. Cadence gets put with him to make his energy more potent for feeding purposes, but Cadence ends up turning him from a milk cow into a super weapon. I'll offer you as many optional elements and directions as possible depending what you want to do. 1-3) directions with 1) being the most bare bones and 3) the most complex. I advise taking just a few 1) directions with as few elements as possible if you want a short novel. If you do not want a story beyond 50k words then I advise you only take 2 directions namely the 1) ones. You can try to make it a full action novel by making it a manhunt and skipping directly to the escape, like all actiony prison stories do.You can try to make it as happy/positive/censored as possible, but it's a prison story, how censored can you make it before you get Dora the Explorer as a guard turning your prison into a golden cage, I don't know.
>>36396425>>36397542>Now, who went into the game? You, or the copy?Reminds me ofhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-ZcdO5fe8
>>36409918This makes me thinkHow would you write a SM:AC crossover fic?
>>36409936>Why would you write a SM:AC crossover fic?ftfy bro
>>36410043Why not?SM:AC but the factions are split between the M6 could be neat
Merlos the mad wrote simultaneously not enough overall but enough early on to be very memorable and impactfull in the hearts of many. <3
got my way through the rabbit hole of the human/eqg community on fimfiction since forever and I'm going to share (you) ONE chuckle worthy trivia of my collection of knowledge>when it comes to eqg canon unless you find an equestrian artifact or you are a main character is very unlikely that a character will have contact with equestrian magic, even the equestria girls themselves get into more slice of life situations on the non movies.>Writers of a story that's straight up just takes place on the eqg world and their stories don't center around the main cast very rarely got issues with mods due them not considering some stories actual mlp content, so authors had to put unnecessary recognizable pones as human "background" characters to satisfy mods>This issue even happened in stories that centered around the shadow bolts despite being mayor side characters in a movieEventually this very rare thing stopped happening i guess realizing that they have to accept eqg is official autism and they have to allow it, As i said this was rare and i only know about it because just enough writers blog posted about this.Chuckle worthy trivia isn't?
>>36408365I'd have to actually watch one of those. So, no. The Hazbin stuff has fucking awful animation.>>36408386Define lengthy.
>>36407764Have Twilight be a unusually powerful unicorn, called a Flare. Explain that Flares need special training to control their magical power, or else they'll get random magic flares (hence the name) that will get more and more destructive with time, an be a huge danger to everything around them. Given how rare and powerful they are, the Princess is pretty much the only one capable of training a Flare.Have Celestia explain this to Twilight during her entrance exam flare (when she hatches Spike etc.), and then tell her she doesn't have the time to train her, and order that she wear a magic inhibitor ring at all times to avoid being a danger to society.As Twilight ends up with all her dreams crushed, unable to do the one thing she's passionate about (magic), have Nightmare Moon show up in a dream and offer to be the one to train her.
>>36410469You just described The Moon's Apprentice to a teehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/196256/the-moons-apprentice
>>36411035Oh gee willikers what a coincidence, silly me!
>>36408645>>36408659The Clusterbun idea. The /co/mrades and I, mostly I, told him he has a great idea, but if he's going to execute it like generic trash then he better not bother making it before he gets his shit together. I've seen a million great ideas from the Japanese and Canadians, but they always suck ass at making it decent to the point Pixar, Paramount, Sony, Illumination, Dreamworks hire better writers with better story structure and emotion.
>>36405268Writing a good story and drawing a good comic are both as equally difficult. Any Joe Shmoe can write 100k words of drivel and nonsense (FIM is full of those stories) just like any random dork can draw 200 panels of stickponies.
>>36411035>SexIs there a lot of it?
>>36411087>Writing a good story and drawing a good comic are both as equally difficult.False.
>>36411095If you think writing is quick and easy then you're obviously not a good writer. And no, having 2000 followers on FIMFiction because you release smut / ebin maymay crackfics every week doesn't make you a good writer.
>>36411103A good story requires only good writing. A good comic requries both good writing and good art. Checkmate, based retard.
>>36411094It's rational sex
>>36411094I can't actually recall any. Maybe only one or two instances of it.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/933540/pauls-thursday-reviews-ccxxxv>be paulasaran>be reviewer>reluctantly acknowledge recent events because otherwise people will crawl up your ass>ask everyone to chill out and get back to horsewords>everyone crawls up your ass anyway>numbers cult all but accuse you of fascism>you are huwite cis male and all sin is yours>who cares about your reviews now, white man?and they wonder why people who just want to be left alone keep siding with the people who will leave them alone
>>36411144Doesn't Twiggy have dream sex with Luna, like, all the time? Not on screen, of course, but I'm pretty sure quite a few of the dream sequences end with "and then they fucked"
>>36411416People are insufferable
>>36411416>Hello again mysterious downvoter! Sorry about giving away your secrets.How fucked in the head is this guy if he thinks a downvote means he's being stalked?
>>36411416>reluctantly acknowledge recent events because otherwise people will crawl up your ass>ask everyone to chill out and get back to horsewordsthat's not at all what happened in the blog but then again it's no surprise that retards who read fimfic blogs have little reading comprehension
>>36411548What movie is that from?
>>36411548>terrorists>sieged>with help from fedsI honestly cannot tell if you're baitposting or just have severe brainrot. The only one of those statements that even approaches being true is "siege", and that's such a complete misrepresentation of what actually happened that I refuse to believe that anyone actually thinks that
>>36411416being a fencesitter just opens you up to getting blasted by both sides as it should be
>>36411563>>36411572>>36411579Then what do you think happened January 6?
>>36411548>>36411563>>36411572>>36411579>>36411588Don't start. Just fucking quit it.
>>36411586And yet only one side actually blasts fencesitters.>>36411588A tour group got lost and took some selfies. They were polite and didn't knock over any of the guide-ropes.
>>36411588A somewhat rowdy protest, that caused minimal damage, where the only death was a women being shot by an officer in no danger whatsoever. To say anything else is to play into the hands of politicians
>>36411628>If you support my politician, you are not playing into the hands of politicians>If you support a politician opposed to my politician, you are playing into the hands of politicians
>>36411588I get all my news from TittySparkles
>>36411416From the comments>If your response to people literally--and I cannot emphasize that enough, literally--attempting to overthrow the American government and to hang the outgoing Vice President is anything other than to feel "strong emotions," then you are not a patriot>hang the outgoing Vice PresidentWait I thought it was trump supporters doing it (or the narrative claims it was trump supporters, whatever, doesn't matter), why would they try to hang the outgoing vice president - or for that matter, why would someone claim they did?
>>36411651>implying I support side A of the uniparty because I'm not buying what side B of the uniparty is selling>>36411722Pence withdrew his support from Trump a bit before the protest, so he's now persona non grata in the MAGA crowd's eyes
>>36411780>implying I support side A of the uniparty because I'm not buying what side B of the uniparty is selling"A somewhat rowdy protest, that caused minimal damage, where the only death was a women being shot by an officer in no danger whatsoever." is a narrative espoused by a group of politicians. You are "playing into the hands" of those politicians who support that narrative. So you're a bit of a hypocrite here.
>>36411820it was fiery but mostly peaceful
>>36411860Zip ties are a peaceful way to take hostages, dumbass.
>>36411860improvised explosives, fires, smashed windows, blockading cars and beating the drivers, shooting people in the back for saying all lives matter
>>36411877I don't much like either movement but the important difference seems to me that BLM was not connected to regime change, while the capitol thing was a direct answer to Trump's call to prevent Biden from taking office.
New chapter of Rekindled Embers is up. That should enhance the quality of the thread shortly.
>>36411986I just started reading it today. The writing style is superb, and the incorrect history creates some sweet mystery and is also funny. But the main character is as Mary Sue as they come.
>>36411911yeah, I remember how BLM stood up for Trump's legitimacy against the white supremacists calling him a Russian traitor and a threat to democracy
>>36411416>reluctantly acknowledge recent events because otherwise people will crawl up your assHe should have ignored it desu. But at least he got six good comments in before it all turned into a massive dumpster fire. That's way better than I expected. And mad respect to PaulAsaran for staying calm when people are chewing him out in the comments.>>36411548If you accept the most negative/alarmist possible interpretation of the events on 1/6, then yeah, the world's ending and we're all gonna die. But keep in mind: for a few hours that day, 500 of the most powerful and influential people in the country, from both sides of the aisle, suddenly found that they didn't feel in charge, and they didn't like that. So now all those politicians and all of their allies are spinning the story as hard as they possibly can.
>>36412038I don't remember white supremacists calling Trump a Russian traitor? Also why would white supremacists care that much about democracy? Also BLM afaik doesn't care about Russia (and foreign politics)? Also why would BLM side with Trump? Also what does all that have to do with regime change?Wth are you trying to say my schizophrenic friend.
>>36412115it's called sarcasm you nitwit
>>36412143Did you reply to the wrong post then? It makes no sense as a reply.
>>36407068 #This retard didn't even attempt to read BPH and is just trying to score purity points by making up criticisms. BPH captures the characters and more importantly the themes and ethos of FiM better than a lot of fics I've read, and I don't think it could've been made without fingers without at the very least making the fight scenes awkward.The fic isn't perfect why the hell did Rarity go all in on her pacifism right in time to get her dad killed? but it's a creative, well-written adaptation of the FiM universe that deserves better critiques than mouthbreathers going >nohooves
>>36411094Off-screen after like the first 30 seconds.
>>36411448Yes. There's even one scene where she wakes up and her partner chastises her for it.(they share a bed while she dream fucks)
>>36412321Doesn't Luna make a point of waiting until Twilight's more mature after the first time Twilight asks about it?>>36412324Yeah, I remember there was a bit of weird poly shit in there somewhere. Poor Twinkleshine
>>36412425I think that there's something like that. I think it's when Luna first notices that Twilight's hit puberty.
Oi. Fuckers still talking politics instead of pony.
>>36412514Has there been a story that does pony politics in an interesting way?Like, some small noble manipulates some other people so they get fucked over for something or other and they get to advance in the hierarchy?
>>36412177Not that anon but you're just retarded
>>36412595>BLM gud whites bad>lol it doesn't matter that it's not my windows that are being broken inYou are retarded.
>This again>mfwHow do you write your princesses, anons? I like playing with Celestia, but I'm usually hard-pressed to find the right voice for her. And I always end up flailing over 'archaic' Luna.
>>36412659I am a fic consoomer only, but I always enjoy letters from Celestia and Luna (to Twilight or someone else) a lot. IMO Celestia and Luna are best when they are kept as a great but distant power.
>>36412673>best when they are kept as a great but distant powerI disagree with you here, but I can't think of many fics that really nailed Celestia or Luna the whole way through. Maybe the good (non-Estee) Triptych and its sequels? I think they both have good potential but Celestia all too frequently gets used as the DBZ-tier fighter that is immediately dunked by the villain to show how powerful they are, and Luna is sort of a blank slate (which can be good or bad depending on your fic).
I can't tell if I prefer mentor!Luna or if I just love tuna.
I require critics to review MLP and IDW. Which one of you brave writers will join me on my autistic quest to rant about a 10 year old cartoon show and its comic books?
>>36412867tuna is life
>>36412902rec good tuna fics immediately
>>36412893>I require critics to review MLP and IDW.Why? Hasn't everything pretty much been said?>Which one of you brave writers will join me on my autistic quest to rant about a 10 year old cartoon show and its comic books?For how much?
>>36412938>MrNumbers writes a gratuitous demonstration of ethical sex-positive porn that he will beat you all over the head with later in a blog postffs
I wanto to finish writing a chapter for my story, but I can't bring myself to do it.Why must I suck?
>>36413061You wanted good tuna.
>>36413061let me guess, it's the blog about the mostly straight, mostly white audience of misogynist nazis who hate women and enjoy porn he doesn't likehere's some better tuna. by better i mean not written by someone who hates their audiencehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/7335/apotheosishttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/16375/sharing-the-night
>>36413115There's only one good tuna.
>>36413119>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/16375/sharing-the-nightkys /pol/tard, this story is garbage
>>36413190>wants to not be lectured and insulted for his entertainment preferences>"/pol/tard"ok
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/132387/friendship-is-optimal-mismatching-witsIf tonight's reading goes well, I'll be finishing the fic. If it doesn't, I'll be dropping it. I liked it when the protagonist was arguing with LunAI and when he was thinking on his own, but I liked it a lot less when he was interacting with anyone else.
>>36413222That anon is a drooling retard but he's correct that Sharing The Night is trash. It starts strong and descends into crackfic-tier memery.actual spoilers in case you want to read this shit:>new alicorns>Twilight has a freakout and ascends her friends without their consentYou know I feel like that one happens a lot even though I can only think of maybe two instances of it happening.Twilight's letter from the magic sea where the stars reside, asking Luna to fire a laser from the moon (which is actually a giant mass of stars and has enormous magical energy) at a different moon created by an Alicorn that was a physical manifestation of Twilight's inner torment, using stars stolen from Twilight, to kill the new alicorn because Twilight is getting her ass kicked. That letter reads "plz b 2 pewpew bitchmoon kthxbai".
>>36413287Forget to mention that Apotheosis is very good.
>>36412995There has only been 1 autistic Simpsons-like way to criticize this show since the mysterious mare do well and feeling pinkie keen.And none of them were detailed nor intelligent and they completely missed the point. Trash by AVGN and NC taking a scene and screaming "bad" at everything ends up having more critique in it than generalizing Pinkie Pie being a screeching retard and whining Fluttershy is bipolar.100$ per episode and 33$ for 1 issue comic books.
>>36412590Also interested in this. I'm so damn sure I must have come across a story with decent political intrigue before. I just couldn't for the life of me recall it at the moment.
>>36413282"Oh! Is that some FiO I see–”>Incomplete>2016Why must you toy with my emotions. And what's the point of reading an abandoned story?
>>36413492I remember someone once saying that they had a plan to climb up the corporate ladder.Simply kidnap the CEO's wife and demand that the manager right above you gets a million dollars or something. Afterwards, money or no money, release the wife. Even when the manager is found innocent, there's no way he's keeping his job with guilt of association like that. After he steps down, you get promoted.Imagine the same principle applied to Equestria. You're some noble from a lower house, but you are vaguely familiar with, say, Blueblood. You slowly start influencing him until he does something egregiously stupid and gets his title stripped. Then, there's a power struggle between the big noble houses to see who can seize more power, and in the aftermath, you're more free to rise up the ranks of what's left.
>>36413320>payment conditional on meeting your inscrutable personal standard of "detail and intelligence" that literally nothing written in the fandom since 2011 has managedNo thanks.
>>36413579You sound like a smoothbrained lazy incompetent fag anyway.
>>36413676I'm sure the wrinkly-brained heterosexuals will be lining up to take your money shortly.
>Rekindled Embers>those lettersSo, in the span of three decades, we went from happy, harmonious pony society to one with "anti-unicorn political upheavals throughout Equestria", "chaos and meltdown" in Manehattan, and extremists who kidnap and murder ponies? And this went on for another decade, even before Equestria collapsed entirely (princesses dying/vanishing)? Everything about this makes me want to scream, though I suppose it is at least somewhat in line with that ridiculous race-war plot from the finale.
>>36413754Remember, in the first chapter's letter we were basically told that this was all because Cozy Glow and probably Chrysalis went back in time to retroactively fuck with Equestria, so timeframes are probably fucked up. But yeah, I ain't disagreeing with you.
>>36413320fuck, i'll do that for that money, that's like over 2k for the whole seriescan this be in writing or does it have to be in video format
>>36411110>A good story requires only good writingOkay? And being rich only requires forty five million dollars.>A good comic requires both good writing and good artThis is patently false as Marvel and DC have been selling comics for a hundred fucking years without good writing.
>>36411416Oh no! He's seen us! The link is to a screencap of this post!
>>36414277>numbers>gets dubsI'm onto you!
>>36398806>thought the consequencesPretty much every monothesitic religion includes omnibenevolence--that's the whole reason the "problem of evil" exists.>>36401051I read the first two. The edginess was just tolerable, then he started to really get into that "alicorn pantheon" shit and my interest dropped.>>36401407I only care about what's relevant to the story and characters I'm reading about. If it's not something tied into what's going on, I'm probably going to skim it because it probably won't have any impact on what happens. That's why it's important to tie worldbuilding and lore into the events of the story itself, so that it gives meaning and a sense of importance.>>36401879>imposing an eternity of the time of year with the shortest daylightwat?>>36405163>refuse to learn to drawIt takes time. Something I have precise little of between work, Youtube, shitposting in this thread, and sleeping.>>36407699What's the tone? Twilight would work for something lighthearted, but if your aiming more seriously, you're probably going to want a real villain. Chrysalis is a popular choice because of the "up to me to find food" angle.>>36412659Celestia's playful, subtle, and always trying to break out of the mold Equestria's bureaucracy has trapped her in and Luna's a big, loud, archaic stick in the mud. I also love the standard magic headcanons for both (Celestia's all power, while Luna's is more finessed).>>36412893>IDWWhy do you want to give yourself cancer, anon? Reflections and the "Twilight lets Applejack nearly get beaten to death in front of her" arcs remain the worst.>>36413754>no princesses>unicorns are sent to death campsThat reminds me. Who the hell controls the sun/moon? It better be the evil Pope. That would be some good doctrine shit.
>>36413760Then where are Cozy Glow and the Chrysalis in the story? Did they stay in the past or travel back to the altered present?
>>36414398>>imposing an eternity of the time of year with the shortest daylight>wat?Snow Queen style
>>36414277what is he trying to prove? he and his cultists were right there, doing exactly what the post said
>>36414793He took the screencap, posted it to his dickscord, and then posted it into the thread himself to *prove* he's not false-flagging like he constantly does. His life is so empty he has to invent people who give a shit about him.
>>36397831Trying this again, are there any good Gilda stories worth reading, that aren't just porn?
Why do I see so many fics referencing The Library of Babel? I hadn't encountered the idea until I started reading fics.>>36413524I wanted to see if it was as I described it in >>36404847. It's turned out to be a pretty easy read. Chapters 1 and 2 are mostly the stuff that you came for, but chapters 3 and 4 are omake, chapter 5 is the last real chapter, and chapter 6 is a fucking glossary. I'm actually starting to wish that I took notes. My thoughts so far are something like:Chapter 1 and half of chapter 2 are what you came for. A sceptical protagonist questioning if his new life in the optimalverse makes sense.Other half of chapter 2: The protagonist enjoying paradise - much less enjoyable than the rest of the fic.Chapters 3 and 4 - Entirely skippable omake.Chapters 5 and 6 - Don't know yet.
>>36414844The answer is still no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGO9EbsIkALet's talk revolutionary/uncommonly used ideas. Have you come across any interesting ideas or thought of any interesting executions?Stuff like killing off the main character's partner and replacing him with his sister AND discussing why it didn't work and how it should had been handled. Things like giving the main character an equal competent main character later in the story.Stuff like the hero using henchmen, curses, begging for help only to betray, using backhanded tactics.A manhunt of 4 girls hunting 1 guy and the 1 guy raping them.Rule 63'd bad boy romancesDiscussing time travel plotsDiscussing clones & personality swapsTwins & Triplets.Those typical stereotypical school settings which only criticize the bullies as a "fact of life" rather than a "call the cops cause these are criminals" , but writers never criticize the education system and how to use the police in your favor to shut down a public school.All the good stuff which is only done as a 1 shot in bad cartoons and is never used as the main theme of the show. Or it's used in an incredibly shallow manner.
>>36415069>how to use the police in your favor to shut down a public schoolHas that ever happened?
>>36415110It's called a bomb threat.
>>36396425Honestly my answer is to think of myself as a pattern repeating through time rather than a single instance. If someone can make a sacrifice for a greater community, then I can sacrifice my current instance for future repitions. Its kind of like the idea of how every time you go to bed you die, and a new version of you is created when you wake up.
>>36415313>Its kind of like the idea of how every time you go to bed you dieThis has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
>>36415324In bed, no one can hear you scream.
Finished chapter one of my FutaTrixie x Starlight clopfic, if anyone wanted to read it.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/485930/the-great-and-powerful-marecockStill working away at chapter one of the FlutterPie fic after losing half of it to Word.
>>36414844There's one I like, it's called Griffon the Brush-Off.It's on The Hub.
>>36415371I'll read it if you add an angry dominant Twilight fucking them both at the end. Make sure to make Twilight as dominant as possible.
>>36415408That's not the plan for this story, but if you promise to leave a like, a comment, and a smile, I will add "FutaTwilight dominating Trixie and / or Starlight" to my list of stories to write down the road.
>>36415408How dominant is as dominant as possible?
>>36415523no, librarian twilight, and they both have late returns
>>36415534>p- please, mistress, I need to cum>TELL ME WHERE THE BOOK IS
>>36415540on book island
>a good story in the feature box for onceHas anyone here enjoyed This is How I'll Remember as much as I did?
>>36415854Let's hope I will. I have a headache right now, but this is going on the list
If TiaraWhy's Clusterbun ends up being another mediocrity like Long Gone Goulch or another disappointment like Double Rainboom then I am blaming you guys for not shoving your writefag applications in his face. You know where to find him.
>>36415854Is the snowglobe thing something that happened in the show? I'm only on episode 7 of S8 and it hasn't happened yet. Otherwise the premise was somewhat lost on me, but nevertheless I kept reading and it was a cute story. All I got out of it was that Discord was too shy to present the globe to Fluttershy before being caught out, but basically he made it for himself because he loves her and wants a memento of her perfection for all time. And she picked up on the love, but they never brought it up in words.Is that right or am I a brainlet?
>>36416780>Anonymous 01/16/21(Sat)22:48:57 No.36416some shitty ex brony creator who went mainstream and became more shitty than before
>>36414398>That reminds me. Who the hell controls the sun/moon?I don't think it's been explicitly stated, but the Royal Sisters are alive, trapped somewhere and have been reaching out to the protagonist(s) in their dreams, so it's possible they're just keeping things moving on their own.>>36414566We don't know, specifically. They turn up in 2 or 3 of the "chapter intro letters", once mentioning time travel and once explicitly confirming Cozy Glow as the founder of this Equestrian church thing. Since the author has explicitly referred to Steadfast Word as a primary antagonist of the story, I'm suspecting we won't actually see the other two and they're just in the backstory as an excuse for why Equestria turned into a totalitarian theocracy overnight.
>>36415371Pretty good first chapter. I hope to see more.
>>36416901Thanks mate. You will.
>>36416166>ClusterbunI'm guessing that's what that picture is.Why would we care?
>>36416166Why do YOU care?
>>36412938This was very pleasant, easily takes #3 best tunafic on fimfiction from "The Better Angel"
>>36417993Which are one and two?
>>36416166i doubt he'd want me to writefag for him even with my credentials
>>36417993The Better Angel was just weird to me. I'm supposed to believe that Alicorn Twilight can't handle a bunch of griffin goons?
I have only 1 test all my writefags need to pass:When writing Trixie do you make her use the third person to refer to herself?
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/132387/friendship-is-optimal-mismatching-witsFinished reading it. What a fucking weird fic. There are only six chapters and I entirely stand by what I said in >>36414872 about the first four. The sixth is a glossary for how Luna speaks, and is therefore pointless. As for the fifth, about half of it is a battle chapter and the rest is mostly the protagonist spending time with his friends, which I presume to be setup for giving him more shit to think about.I think that the fic lost its way early on. The one thing that it was good at, and the one thing that it was trying to do, was give us long scenes where the protagonist either thinks or argues about if the Optimalverse is really paradise. However, the fic that we're actually given isn't that. At best, it's maybe all of chapter 1, half of chapter 2, and a quarter of chapter 5, which totals to a maximum of just under half of the fic. The other half is just bullshit showing the protagonist enjoying himself. If the fic was finished and much longer, it may have developed in to something great, maybe even a deconstruction of the Optimalverse. But as is, all signs were pointing to it further missing the mark with each passing chapter.Overall, I can maybe recommend chapters 1 and 2, the rest is mostly pointless. Still, it's the closest thing that I know to what >>36403770 wanted.
>>36418948Only when she's performing a show. She speaks normally when she isn't using her stage persona.
Feature box had something decent for oncehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/486953/cutie-marks-under-the-knife-a-special-report10/10, it makes me want to vomit
>>36418200In retrospect, I forgot some so I'd bump Vertigo down1, 2, and 3, in order only by story ID arehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/7335/apotheosishttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/63121/archmagehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/94526/twilights-planTwilight's Plan notable as being a categorically superior Vertigo.
>>36418586It was never that she couldn't handle them, some of her characterizations would very plausibly make that sacrifice for diplomatic purposes given that she was sent on a diplomatic mission by the princesses.
>>36419646Break it down for us. Tell us why you ranked them the way you did.
>>36419658I ranked them in that order because 7335 > 63121 > 94526
This is autistic, but interesting.https://www.youtube.com/c/killme2paza/videoshttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/34853417/#34864219https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/35406753
>Reposting because I fucked up and put it in the wrong thread...Reading the new RE chapter...>Rarity and the rebels' trip takes them close enough to see Canterlot, but it's a relatively short travel after that to the "griffon border"Canterlot is smack in the middle of Equestria. Are ponies/griffons just hypersonic missiles now that they can travel to the coast that fast, or have the griffons invaded nearly to the heartlands and it's just literally never been mentioned before?>Oh man the Diarchy is super oppressive, no one has any freedom, Knights control everything>Also literally no one stops or questions a random chariot flying straight from Mt. Aris, to nearly the center of the continent, and then to another borderWell I guess we know how the diarchy keeps having these runaways all the time: Literally nobody is stopping them. Not one single instance of "Your travel papers, please." or "Why the fuck do you have a griffon with you?" to up the tension.>Rarity just casually tosses names of secret agents around and some random privates immediately know exactly who she's talking aboutWow, that's totally a great idea! If I ever build a totalitarian state, I'm going to make sure everyone knows the names of all my secret agents too! No way that could go wrong, nu-uh.>Steadfast, who has previously been specifically able to accurately tell when someone is bullshitting him, doesn't question Rarity whatsoeverThis had better turn out to be a trap, or I'm going to call bullshit on him.Like, be honest with me, anons: Am I nitpicking here, or does this all smell? I feel like they're "playing on easy mode" during this whole chapter.
>>36418586Did you believe she couldn't handle a bunch of vines? Or a random unicorn cult leader; or changelings; or porcupine goons?
>>36418948It's off and on. She uses third-pony when performing, and also when she's feeling emotionally vulnerable.
>>36419806This. Same goes for Iron Will.
>>36419773>bad writing justifies more bad writingNo
>>36419936>fan works accurately portraying a setting/characters is bad writingNo
>>36420138>bad writing is okay if it's done by my favorite corporationNo
>>36419672Not sure how the youtube channel relates to anything, but the third is the exact thing I was thinking of in >>36404808, and the second looks to be more from the same guy that I hadn't seen before. Thanks, anon
>>36419514Just read it now. That was horrible to read, and I immediately gave it a like once finished. Mica handled the uncomfortable subject matter excellently; truly, Twilight Sparkle's Equestria is a living hell.
>>36419514Thanks, I hate it!
>>36419514>>36420859>>36421331Am I missing some /mlp/ hot take here? Why is this "gross" or why would you hate it? I thought it was an interesting premise and it was skillfully written.
>>36421847What year did you join the ride?
>>36421847The world it portrays is a soulless shithole compared to S1-S2 Equestria. The writers spent 7 seasons slowly degrading Equestria from "magical horse utopia" to "IRL but with hooves", and this fic takes the final step by portraying the most inherently magical thing about ponies as something meaningless.
>>36409334Anyone gonna bother with this? I might write this just for the Celestia spirit advising and possessing Cadence like an avatar from TLA. But I'll keep it very short and simple, I don't want to get neck deep into the autism that is Prison Break fanfics.
>>36421899>neck deep into the autismAnon, you're one letter off.
>>36412659>How do you write your princessesBoth are somewhat distant from their ponies, but in different ways. Celestia I always write as having a 'teaching voice' 95% of the time. Not condescending or didactic, but always taking careful account in her words and being constantly aware of everything she says. She paces her words, measures them, and speaks little while saying much - keeping that motherly, rulerly mask on. Is she afraid of what a wrong word would do, or afraid of what ponies would think if they saw the real her? Either way, you can tell when her guard and her mask is finally down when she speaks in a more casual, off-the-cuff manner.On other hand, Luna is distant because she believes that is right. Her elevation above her subjects is not a failing, but in her eyes a matter of fact. Luna's relationship with them is largely a formal one, and a casual closeness is something which must be earned from her - this is reflected in her language, which can be a bit stilted and formal in most conversations. When speaking of herself, I try to almost always give her an active voice; others are treated with a passive voice. She is either unaware of or reevaluating how difficult this makes it for other ponies to approach her; like her sister, she tends to only speak more casually with very close acquaintances.
>>36421899>Prison BreakI forgot that was a thing. Anyone here wanna tell us any horror stories about other fandom's fanfics?
>>36421910This is super helpful; I really appreciate your thoughts, especially with regard to Luna.
>>36421963Wasn't it just a 2012 TV show that was good for 1 season?
>>36421847I think >>36421897 is pretty on the mark. It hurts because cutie marks are one of the most appealing and magical ideas of the show: The idea that you could go on this magical youth-quest to discover your talent in life and know - really know - when you'd happened on it. No bullshitting around to end up in a dead-end job you hate. No paying tens of thousands of dollars in college fees only to discover you suck at what you dreamed of. Cutie Marks were guaranteed purpose in life, and that's a damn appealing fantasy.This story crushes that, showing a society where - despite the characters' objections that it's not at all superficial - marks are traded out because they're "unfashionable", not "refined", and subject to other shallow, pop-culture demands. They're literally covering up the core of who they really are, their personally-found marks thrown away like trash, because all their friends got surgery - seeking some ephemeral "me-ness" that they can't be sure of. The magic has become commercialized - pay us off, be "happy" until your mark is out of fashion, not bright enough, or otherwise unsatisfying again. Repeat ad nauseum.And what hurts is that no doubt there are ponies who actually benefitted from this. The story/article goes out of its way to make the point that yes, ponies are genuinely having positive reactions to this. But that doesn't undo that it's also become victim to pop-culture fashion sensibilities. It fills me with a kind of visceral revulsion to see cutie marks reduced to this, and I have to upvote the story for drawing that emotion forth.
>>36422093I think you misunderstood the story.It was clearly implying that changing your cutie mark via surgery is a BAD move.
>>36422127It was not, you decided that cutie mark surgery was bad while reading the story and ignored its balance.
Can someone recommend dark stories? I mean it's ez to put le violence and le sex but i mean, downer dark stories, like Twilight breaks her horn early in her life, Applejack sells the barn and the land, Rarity gives up her dreams, its fine if they have happy endings or sad bittersweet ambiguous endings one's are welcome too
>>36422140The only "positive" aspects were statistics that were not even sourced. I might be assuming the author is smarter than he is, but I took it to mean that it was all bullshit, just like modern cosmetic surgeries.The sole reason people get such surgeries is because they become popular among cliques and then if you want to remain in the clique, you have to conform.Toola Roola's sole reason for getting the surgery was obviously because all her friends had it.
>>36422165Cool thanks anon, the story description and tags dont seem to foreshadow anything in particular but I'll trust your recommendation
>>36422172>>The only "positive" aspects were statistics that were not even sourced>bottom third of a FiMFiction story link written like a newspaper article isn't all APA with fabricated links for a fictional story, therefore the statistics are false>deliberately ignores every counterexample for Toola RoolaYeah, fuck off with your 6th grade reading level, thanks.
>>36422127>"There's a tiny fraction of cases where it might be good, otherwise it's cosmetic surgery bullshit crushing one of the show's most magical aspects">"I think you misunderstood the story, it's supposed to be shown as bad"I feel like this is bait, but whatever: Did you somehow miss the 9/10 of my post was dedicated to explaining how painful I found the world the story depicts? Yeah, I absolutely got that it was supposed to show that surgery recipients were completely superficial and unhappy. Yes, I absolutely got the parallels to cosmetic surgery. No, I don't think the story was trying to portray it as "right". At best it's a "road to hell is paved with good intentions" scenario.
>>36422154I wrote one. It's short, though: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/483142/goldengrape-hated-winter-wrap-up
>>36422165I remember that one, it definitely fits the bill.
>>36422225I'm sorry that you have a peabrain. Don't take it out on me, sweaty.
>>36422296Hey, I just wanna drop by and say that I like your Moondancer x Anon fic
>>36422316Thanks. I'd like to write more of them, some day, when Calliope permits.
>>36422127That's not the point. The point is that cutie marks shouldn't be the kind of thing that 1 in 7 Manehattanites choose to surgically alter. The question of whether to ban the replacement surgery shouldn't even come up, because it's so antithetical to what makes ponies who they are that only a tiny, tiny minority should ever consider it.
>>36422154A few with lower view counts:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/1100/peace-in-the-stormhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/33811/still-lifehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/138771/photographhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/152220/this-isnt-a-sad-letterhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/253206/bottoms-uphttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/278295/meaningless-in-their-dreamshttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/293122/do-no-harmhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/474182/the-hoofston-river-delta
Glad Anon started taking over the named protagonist on fimfiction, named protagonist belongs with the in-universe brony protagonist that shit was cringe
>>36423139all hie is cringe, but Anon is the cringiest of them all
>>36422140>posts glimmer>is retardedWow, what a surprise
>>36399566Same. I've been waiting for years to see how that turns out.
Are there any fanfics written by extroverts who can do comedy, action, positive feels without being pansy faggots?Also romance, drama, tragedy again without being wishy washy poetry fags and dull fat landwhales devoid of suaveness.For example instead of that gay Past Sins fanfic does anyone know a fanfic of Twilight/Luna/Nightmare Moon being a Dan Vs-tier asshole to everyone and this being taken in a comedy direction?
>>36419646Archmage's tuna is bogged down in so much other garbage that I don't see how it could possibly rank so high
>>36422154There's always D=S-M
>>36422296I'm dumb and don't understand. He's being haunted by his dead wife? She wants him to kill himself and join her?
Sometimes, my reading list is nothing but tv tropes.
>>36423139>Being this gay in the Year of Our Lord 2021
>>36423139There are good Anon stories; there are terrible Anon stories.There are good regular human stories; there are terrible regular human stories.Judge a story by its contents, not its tags.Unless the story is that Celestia one where there are so many fetish tags they needed to be alphabetised. You should judge the hell out of that one.
>>36424954Honestly, I'm more surprised that story went on for another ninety chapters after every named character in the show was dead by chapter 10.
>>36424786>spend from 2011(?) To 2016 very active on reading the tvtropes articles>by the times it hit me to actually make an account and write articles of my obscure entertainment I've read so many articles and got the tropes mostly memorized and my obsession stoppedKeep going anon maybe in 7 years the obsession will stop
>>36425017The website really isn't the browser narcotic that it used to be. You'll only be hooked for at most a year. As I've said in many previous threads, these days I only use it to skim the YMMV pages of something that I'm considering watching/reading/whatever or have just finished with and wanting to organise my thoughts on.
>>36423528Maybe try Seeking Power?https://www.fimfiction.net/story/174671/seeking-power
>>36425574Has anyone actually read the rewrite yet?
>>36424097Yes, and yes.
This might be a bit broad, but any recommendations for wholesome and romantic stories involving lots of affection and a bit of smut? Hetero ships preferred (bonus points for Shining x Cadance). Really loved Her Majesty's Secret Service so that's kinda the vibe I'm looking for.
>>36426545I wrote this one.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/343054/accismusI tried balancing love and lust, though it's predominantly Starlight getting over herself and admitting she wants to have sex with Spike.Also, Starlight is the POV character. I can understand that can be a bit of a turnoff for some.
>>36426626>Starlight is the POV character. I can understand that can be a bit of a turnoff for some.yeah maybe if you're a whiny baby bitch
>>36426626I hate how Starlight is the POV wah wah wah I need my diapers changed
>>36426743You mean you haven't already?Anon, I've been shilling it since 2019, where have you been?
>>36426940Now I'm self-conscious and can't bring myself to downvote, you asshole.
>>36412659While not something I wrote myself, I found the way Twilight's Nightmare did their system for alicorns (and thusly Celestia, Luna, etc) to be unique and enjoyable
>tfw started reading FiO stories againSomehow the whole subject has a bit more impact when the real world is fraying at the seams just a little bit more than usual.I want to emigrate to Equestria
>>36427253Emigrating to Equestria will not stop genocide.
>>36427628True, in a way it's the ultimate genocide. Though at the end of it the people who are erased are reborn into a new world that, while not always perfect, is designed with purpose and inherent meaning.As much as I appreciate the inherent romanticism that is the chaos of the real world, a limitless fantasy that lasts as long as you heart does is just as romantic in it's own right.
>>36423848It has some garbage, but most of it isn't.
>>36427628Why would you want to stop genocide?
>>36429096Maybe he wants to be the one to spearhead genocide and doesn't want other stealing his thunder.
>>36423003Not him but I'll check these out.
>>36429096Perhaps the wrong people are being genocided
>>36425574I like this personality and vocabulary more when I read it in Tabitha St. Germain's NMM voice.Then again it's Tara Strong she never ever sounded good. Always sounds like fucking Bubbles which just makes me want to strangle her.
>>36423139The fact that Anon became popular on FIMFiction of all things is gay as fuck, dude. It's just one more example out of a million of normies getting ahold of 4chan memes and ruining them for the rest of us. Who the fuck was the first nigger who posted an Anon story there?
>>36430556I had to go aways back through stories with 'Anon' as a tag, and eventually found this:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/8180/you-will-never-share-an-intimate-moment-with>16th March, 2012That is, from what I can tell, the earliest example of an Anon story on FiMFiction.
>>36430607>CloperellaMain thing I remember about them is looking at their Tumblr and finding a bunch of "make racists afraid again"-type posts.
Does anyone else here read "junk food" stories where they're objectively poorly written, riddled with grammatical errors and typos, repetitive prose, all tell and no show, but you still read them because it's a comfortable sort of bad because you can just cruise right through it without thinking too much to pass the time? For me, it's "I became a pony and now I will fuck every mare/stallion in existence" stories.
>>36430918I fucking love crappy, "teenage self-insert goes to equestria and becomes the villain" type stories. It's absolutely a guilty pleasure, though, since they're all so fucking bad
>>36430607Anon is one of the "new" tags, like Porn, so the most ancient anon fics probably don't have it. But Knighty removed the "last page" button from the fimfic search, and fimfetch can only search by title (not by description), so you'd probably need to download the fimfic archive to find the real oldest AiE>>36430918I read mediocre stories before bed. They're nice and chill and not good enough to tempt me into staying up late to read more.
>>36430918These are only funny if they're Tommy Wiseau-levels of retardation and cringe. There's a fine line between just being bad and unreadable and being so bad that it's entertaining.
I hear you guys like bad stories, well look what just updated.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/472804/friendship-is-optimal-the-omniva-verse
>>36430918Heh, I always referred to my guilty pleasure type of stories as "fast food" as well and generally satisfies some of these criteria: they are quick to make (high update cadence), easy to consume (no complex plot), low in nutritional (literary) value, and I don't demand much from them in terms of quality. It's kinda comfortable to find one of those self-inserts that I really click with and be able to immerse in the fantasy. Really helps me sleep, because otherwise my mind drifts to much less pleasant things...>>36430929Speaking of, I'm surprised to see that Darth Vulcan got a new chapter. It's definitely one of the better "fast food" fics.
I spent so long writing today that I don't have the time left to do anything other than ruin through my daily tasks, only to go to bed when they're done and have to do them again in the morning. What's the solution to this?
>>36432022Keep writing. Denounce your entire life and dedicate what time you have to pony. Become the tortured writer you were always meant to be.
>>36432022Amphetamines. Who needs sleep, anyways.
Could someone help me find a fanfic? It was about Twilight turning to the darker side of science after being admitted as some kind of mage or researcher in canterlot. She got this dungeon and was eventually discovered but managed to escape.
>>36432022>Complaining about successfully devoting your time to a hobbyWhat did anon mean by this?
Rationalfics are universally awful.
>>36432440Universally flawed, certainly. Awful? Probably not.
>>36431967Shit, really? where can I find it?
>>36432457They fail in characterisation and plot, the only exceptions being when they stray away from their rationalfic origins such as in the moons apprentice. The only thing the genre is good for is to jack off the ego of the writers, you don't need a special genre or a special group in order to write logical characters.
>>36432150Do you remember the name of a place, an OC, some unusual object/spell, or a sentence that marked you in particular?I can run a search, but I'm too tired rn to go look in depth if you don't have any good clue
>>36432574It was alt universe, it was based on the dark ask researcher twilight tumblr or somesuch.
>>36432609Sorry, that doesn't give me enough. I haven't read that one, so I'd need a unique element to look for in the archives or there'd be thousands of results for Twilight + Canterlot + Dark magic.
>>36432627Ah well, mind giving me one of those stories at least? One with a high rating?
>>36432650Actually, I might just have found it on Google as a last ditch attempt....https://fimfetch.net/story/49113/researcher-twilighthttps://www.fimfiction.net/blog/555510/researcher-twilight-is-moving-againIf that's not it, I'm not going to find it!
>>36432651>https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/555510/researcher-twilight-is-moving-againHoly hell you did it, guess this why I couldn't find it on fimfiction.
>>36432533>you don't need a special genre or a special group in order to write logical charactersNo, but it's nice to have a genre where you know it's a guarantee or at the very least the expressed goal.
>>36419514One of the best fics I've ever read, I really like the format and tone.
>>36432651>it is going back to it's rightful home in the hands of it's original author, NATOstrike.>https://www.fimfiction.net/user/11395/NATOstrike>stories purged>blogs purged>profile purged>suicide icon>last online yesterday
>>36433267i wonder what happened here
>>36433334Wasn't NATO the guy who had cancer come back several times and that's why he put that story on hold at least twice?
>>36433446your guess is as good as minealso can't believe i missed the quint get by one post
>>36430556Fimfiction being the most popular site for mlp related stories means the odds of someone posting an outstanding piece of literature is increased, might as well have normal fags get some cultural osmosis with the anon protagonist.>>36430918One-shot romances were once fully this, but they keep popping up so much the writers eventually learn to write decently the same premise over and over again, also the random slice of life one shot has gained popularity.
>>36432022That's FAR more productive than many of the days I spend. Provided you're putting effort into your writing, and improving with time, just the skill of writing is itself valuable in life; the skill of extensive creative writing is also great to have, even if it's less often directly applicable in daily life; and of course presumably you created a good chunk of a story for people to read.
>>36432533>you don't need a special genre or a special group in order to write logical characters.And yet the idiot ball is an ever-present problem. But also, even among well-written stories with no idiot ball, there's no definite keyword or genre or classification that I'm aware of that lets you find stories that focus on characters being smart; maybe thrillers (whenever they're not cheap drama) or political intrigue stories come close, but are still very hit or miss.Of course, "rationalfics" aren't much better because where they excel at being, well, rational, they've very hit or miss at being good stories, since if you explicitly set out to write "rationalfic" you've probably already set yourself up to make various sacrifices on the quality level.
>>36433542I mean it would have been a total waste so don't be sad
>>36434289i dont think i've ever gotten more than quads in nearly a decade on this god forsaken site so it woulda just been a personal achievement
>>36434303That's fair, but it still would've been such a waste that it's for the better. It was literally just a question.Although now I'm curious what the actual get was, for all I know it was even shittier. >>36433333
>>36432718>>36434283You might be on to something. I can't stand reading things where I feel smarter than both the characters and their author, but writing with the goal of avoiding that comes at a cost.
>>36434977Exactly, you put my two-paragraph post into a single sentence very succintly.
>>36435018I wouldn't put much stock in it. I'm just using every excuse that I can find to vent my perpetual rage about Harry Potter.
Hey FimFiction thread, when did the show start going bad for you?
>>36435097S4 finale is what marked a shift for me.I still watched S5, but once more the finale is not just what I wanted from this show.From that point onward, I just watched whichever episodes caught my eye, but my days of fervently watching every episode were over.
>>36435097S8 was the first season where the number of bad episodes outweighed the good for me.
>>36435097I think it was good the whole way through. That being said I still don't like the direction it took after season 7, even though the school and student six or however you want to call them weren't as bad as I feared.
>>36435097>join between S4 and S5>be fan of the fandom, reading fimfic and sporadically grabbing episodes>join anniversary stream after S7 and watch absolutely random bits and pieces, realise I've been an utter faggot and have been missing the fuck out>watch more shit, often out of order; catch subsequent anniversary streams; participate in rewatches; over time finally catch up with most of the showI can tell you when I think the show became bad, but due to my fan-of-the-fandom faggotry, I didn't catch any of it live. I envy the people who can say, "oh, I can pinpoint the moment in 2013, when such-and-such episode aired, and I realised things were going downhill".
>>36435097Somewhere in S3, I think.
>>36435097Never liked the show. I like it as an intro to the setting, not for itself.
>>36435097In the moment I took it all in stride (up until season 8), but now that I've actually started writing and thinking about the setting in detail, I'm going to echo the common idea that around season 3 is when the setting started to horribly decay.
>>36435097Never 'bad', per se. I enjoyed most of the episodes over the course of the show; I've always been able to put aside my grievances to just enjoy what I was watching for the sake of what it was. Whilst I was aware that the overall quality was getting worse, it never became 'bad'. If I had to name the point where the quality began to dip, I'd say Season 3. Magical Mystery Cure really kicked off the decline with a fireworks display; Alicorn Twilight was never going to be a good thing.Over the course of the whole 9 season run I reckon the show went from a 7/10 to a 5/10.
>>36435097S2 finale. There are only two princesses>S1: good>S2: good>S3: PANIC (but the actual episodes were mostly fine I think, aside from the finale)>S4: shit, writers didn't know what to do with Twilight any more (also rip treebrary)>S5: decent>S6: shit, writers didn't know what to do with Glimmer>S7: decent>S8: cancer>S9: cancer
>>36435097I still like it.I'm just upset we lost the Treebrary. I can deal with the wings, but the whole crystal playset is not the "dorky bookworm" vibe that I can relate too.
>>36434977What cost, exactly? Not having the crutch of the idiot ball to force the plot where you want it to go?
>>36435578The short answer is that you can damage your characters and pacing by focusing too much on scenes where people think.
>>36435097Personally, right around the S4 finale and S5 in general was when I realized that the magic of S1 and S2, and to a lesser extent of S3, had faded
>>36435582But you don't have to. You can just write them acting rationally (to your best approximation), and ignore any readers who can't keep up.Also, good pacing is about keeping the reader engaged, not maintaining a particular ratio of words to in-story time. It's not "rationality"'s fault if people don't understand that narrating what a character knows, remembers, et cetera doesn't require the character literally standing around explicitly and verbally thinking through it all.
>>36435704>the character literally standing around explicitly and verbally thinking through it allBut that's a key feature of the genre. Remove that and it stops feeling like a rational fic, it'll just be ordinary good writing.
>>36435731Does this mean shounens influenced rationalfics? Is JJBA a rationalmanga?
>>36435731Ah, the no-true-Scotsman argument. Appropriate for arguing the anti-rationality position.
>>36435763The thing is everyone who sets out to write a true Scotsman, will. I have yet to see anyone self-identify their writing as "rational" and at the same time avoid this.
>>36435760Dunno about JJBA, but it's not exactly a secret that Hikaru no Go and Negima are some of Big Yud's favorites.
>>36435771Then I'd like to see (elsewhere than here) your list of fics read and examples of the phenomenon in each. Right now you just look like one of the readers who can't tell the difference.
>>36435760 >>36435780Also Death Note, judging by references in HPMoR. And probably more.
>>36435760>>36435780>"Anyway," said the Master. "If we don't fire on the alien ship - I mean, if this work is ever carried back to the Babyeater civilization - I suspect the aliens will consider this one of their great historical works of literature, like Hamlet or Fate/stay night -"
>>36435760>>36435790You underestimate my power.
>>36435794>implying he read the manga rather than playing the original VN
>>36435796>myHow's that epilogue coming along?
>>36435787paging tmanon for this
>>36435807VNs could be considered literature, it says Novel in the title and it's imo not a stretch.
>>36435760Hapo's Bizarre Adventurehttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-wizard-of-woah-and-irrational-methods-of-irrationality.337233/post-19047684Also, this https://archiveofourown.org/works/10343850/chapters/22859958
>>36435824I somehow missed that 36435760 said "shounens" rather than "manga". I'll defer to your knowledge on whether the term applies.
>>36435606God, I want to fuck Celestia.
>>36435826>Also, this https://archiveofourown.org/works/10343850/chapters/22859958>He was special in the sense that he could do things others could not. He knew things others did not. He could do things others could not. He saw the beauty in things others did not. And while much of this spirit inside him came from his mother and her musings on the world, far more of it came from his own awakening.>Where many of the youths his age were content to play aimlessly in the mud, he would spend his time reading.>If you asked the average idiot what his goal in life was, he would answer with an outlandishly stupid thing society simply told him to want. An idiot would say he wanted to be famous, or to play in some sports team, or to know the touches of a thousand women aboard a pleasure boat made of gold.>Jonathan Joestar-Summers knew better. His goals were far grander, far more beautiful, and far more likely... For he intended to achieve those goals in his lifetime, and that made all the difference.>The boy had his whole life planned out, from day one to day one billion, and it would all go exactly according to plan.This is genuinely painful to read. Thank you.
>>36435760Big Yud is a massive anime fan, as others have already told you. He also believes that all of your characters must be awesome. You might enjoy reading https://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/post/59810615510/>>36435763A true fan would argue that rationalfics are a super set of good writing. Remove stuff like the LessWrong mentions and it stops feeling like a rationalfic. I can't prove this point, but you can tell when something was, for example, inspired by HPMOR. So, pretty much >>36435771.>>36435787>>36435822A few do a better job of it by having it displayed as two or more characters having a debate, but I can't think of a single fic that openly claims to be rational that doesn't have long scenes showing a character thinking very hard. I skimmed my entire lists of fics that I've read and found no counterexamples.
>>36435888I disagree, keeping the reasonings of characters unclear, and making important characters make decisions badly and inconsistently, are very common in literature classics. I'd say it's more common than not!
>>36435914I can't believe Big Yud is gracing our thread with his presence. Hello, Yud!
>>36435925Hi!But seriously, a clouded/obscured kind of mind, especially someone who does not really know what he wants and wanders between goals aimlessly - is often presented as a character with "depth", and a character with transparent goals is "shallow". I have not actually read much rationalfic, but I have seen rationafics as a reaction against that.
>>36435097Throughout S3 I was starting to become uncomfortable, but the moment those wings appeared was the moment I realized things had gone completely off the rails.
>>36435888I suppose I should add that there are times when it's perfectly appropriate and dramatic for a person or character to put his full attention on thinking through a problem. Though mainstream fiction, outside maybe some mystery/suspense novels, mainly portrays it through his talking to himself out loud; or through another character waiting in suspense for his answer. Not sure how cabbaging/expospeak between two characters is inherently "better".Possibly relevant: https://www.lesswrong.com/lw/ui/use_the_try_harder_luke/.
Oh, hey.Bump limit.
>>36435097It started losing magic during S2, I forced myself through S3 out of habit, lost interest and only picked it up again mid S4 cause I had nothing better to do.
>>36435997Guy knows how to write comedy, got to give him that.