ITT, let's discuss the future of art preservation and boorus.The long version:After recent events, doubts have arose about the continuance of Derpibooru as the premiere image archival site for the fandom. As it sits now, "controversial" images depicting recent events are being removed by the site. Even though the moderators claim they will apply the rule fairly, some may question the fairness of how the new rules are being applied. Note that regardless of claims made by anyone that art is being removed from the site. You may or may not care about political art, but there is good reason to be concerned about art preservation on the site. There is potential for much more to be lost.Update:Recently not just "controversial" images depicting recent events are being deleted, but any and all "controversial" images. Certain tags are now banned in new uploads. Old posts are supposed to be grandfathered in, but dwindling search results put this in question. Derpi mods are banning people left and right in the forums. Even the main userbase seems to be getting nervous.TLDR:There's other options.-Right now Rainbooru is a good alternative to Derpi. (www.rainbooru.org)-In the near future we can also look forward to TwiBooru, based on Philomena (from Twifag)-ZizzyDizzyMC is working on pony booru based on Philomena too.Specialized Boorus:-booru.foalcon.com (foalcon)-www.fluffybooru.com (fluffy ponies)-lyrabooru.org (plushophilia)-www.bronibooru.com (SFW, no shipping, no non-pony anthro, no translations)Latest Developments:-Improvements to Rainbooru, too many to list ^:) (www.rainbooru.org/changelog)-Twifag and Zizzy making progress with Philomena (Nothing public yet)-Derpi banning more art, situation deteriorating-People are looking for alternativesThis is NOT the Derpibooru drama general. Please keep posts relevant to booru development. (>>>/mlp/derpi)DiscussPrevious thread: >>35501796
>>35510142Bronibooru sounds perfect for the people who were complaining on past threads about allowing furshit and porn.Foalcon.com sounds perfect for me.
>>35510142Nice opening. Clear and informative.
>>35510163tfw no porn booru free of furshit
Senaelik if you're reading this I love your art and am uploading some of it to rainbooru
>>35510170Rainbooru has a one click filter down at the bottom
Is the numbers for pages on the bottom supposed to be halfway into the bottom pics?
>>35510193That's a problem with mobile devices that is being worked on. If you see that on a non mobile then you must have a very tall monitor.
>>35510193on Rainbooru? Forgot to mention the name, sorry.
>>35510195Just a laptop so maybe.
>>35510191I know and it's nice, was just in response to the post.
Seems like many artists are waiting for new boorus to be finished so they can ditch derpibooru:>>35508991
>>35510142So interesting finds:1. Derpi releases daily dumps of their entier Postgres DB at this URL https://derpibooru.org/pages/data_dumps2. Using this feature, it is possible to perform daily scrapes of all Derpibooru images. All other metadata is contained within the dump.3. Leveraging this, any booru can recreate the entire Derpi experience. Complete with images, upvotes, description, the forums, EVERYTHINGSoooo Twi or Zizzy can literally just copy the whole thing over as it stands, then just thak the cuck breaks off and allow uncensored posting ontop of everything that already exists
>>35510142Reminder that derpitard mods think that an image like this will turn you into a nazi.
>>35510268wtf I hate kikes now
Twifag: you said earlier that Philomena have no documentation. But I see that Philomena project uses ExDoc (JavaDoc equivalent for Elixir, compiles into html or epub documentation). So, do you mean there's not enough documentation instead?
>>35510312I'm assuming that's the kind of stuff where you write a descriptive comment above every function and it compiles into a nice HTML summary of what everything in the code does.If so, while that's invaluable for a developer, it's not very useful for a user, because twifag doesn't need to understand the code - he needs guides on how to configure the booru, how to do things as a user.
>>35510163>booru.foalcon.comIs anyone actually browsing this ?There is nearly no votes nor comments on anything.
>>35510544>Imagine telling your ISP directly that you are going to jack off to underage ponies.The worst domain name ever.
>>35510142The reason why I cannot bother to visit Rainbooru, even though I like the concept of the site, is because of CPs and foalcons. I hate to admit it but there is a stereotype of "right-wings" (catch all term as opposed to sjws) being pedophiles, not the sjws. And there are actual misogynists among us. By meaning misogynists, not that misogynists that feminists are yelling about. I meant real misogynists who hate everything feminine. They hate everything female so much that they cannot stand watching sexually mature females. Especially females with curves and maternity. The /trad/ pedos and this many incel type of "right wing" lolcows in Kiwifarms scare me.
>>35510702>The reason why I cannot bother to visit Rainbooru, even though I like the concept of the site, is because of CPs and foalcons.I guess, you don't visit Derpi either.What do you use then?
>>35510702>The reason why I cannot bother to visit Rainbooru, even though I like the concept of the site, is because of CPsFound the CP spammer
>>35510702FBI-tier illegal CP is being autofiltered by FBI-owned cloudflareLolicon can be filtered, is filtered by default, and should be filtered if it's illegal for you to view itFoalcon is the same except even derpibooru allows it, so if that's your argument then where were you even getting your horse pictures previously?
>>35510764Because I don't like CPs. My concern was what if I encountered Rainbooru being raided by those illegal CP spammers again.
>>35510921Have you perfected the art of fapping to hoof-holding or something?
>>35510935That’s a danger on literally any website where you can post images or videos. Shit happens on 4chan, yet here you are.
>>35510936Suggestive softcore > Obvious explicit sex scene between other male and mare or dyke faggotry
>>35510947Alright I can respect that. You have achieved a purity few others can - surpassed perhaps only by those who are saving themselves for their waifu.
Seems like we have two new filters, no loli one and a vainilla one.
>>35510544Is a relatively new and unknown booru. I only heard of it because somebody from a relatively obscure IB told me about it. Aside from that post and this thread I think the only mention of that site is an old thread on ATF.>>35510702> I hate to admit it but there is a stereotype of "right-wings" (catch all term as opposed to sjws) being pedophiles, not the sjwsFun fact: pedos exist everywhere. You can go on Twitter and find the same kind of SJW that are posted on /v/ posting pro pedo messages and tags,just like you can make a thread on /pol/ about the AoC and find a lot of people arguing that it should be lowered, /tv/ having hourly child model threads that devolve i to people from all politic alignments calling each other pedo, or even the ocassional real pedo talking about real kids in the middle of random loli threads on /a/, /v/ and /co/.
Friendly reminder that Tittysparkles is pretty much using Rainbooru for cover images now, so the fact that a big name fandom writer quietly supports the site is a good starting point.
>>35510558>using your ISP's dns servers>not using DNS over HTTPSI mean, I agree, but there are measures that can be taken.
>>35511682Yes, exposure is good but is rainbooru in a good enough state yet?
>>35510268It was so weird how they handled this image last night. It was up for 10 minutes, deleted, revived, then deleted again 30 minutes later.
>>35511762all the more incentive to make it good enough
>>35511762Give it time, Derpibooru wasnt as advanced as it is now back in 2012 when most people started using it.
>>35510145Wtf is the point of these posts?
>>35511814Makes trying to catch up much easier.Instead of digging up through 500 posts in each thread you can read just the important posts anchored at the top and you'd be fine.
>>35511814I think important posts are supposed to link to the anchor, but they don't seem to be doing it.
>>35511772Just shows that a good chunk of the moderation does not agree with the new rule change.
>>35511814When people use it, it makes it easier to keep track of key developments/announcements.
>>35511844It's even more sad when those who clearly don't agree have to damage control for the higher ups and defend a position they don't agree with.
>>35511831>>35511838>>35511867Never in several years of /mlp/ browsing I remember this being used.Uh, new trend I guess.
>>35511878Its a new thing from what I recall. Haven't seen it used until recent, but it's very useful for those who don't want to read 300+ posts to figure out what's going on.
>>35511878I've seen it in content creation threads like drawthreads
>>35511878Other boards use the concept very frequently. It just hasn't been used here in particular very much.
>>35511878Yeah, it recently migrated to /mlp/. I think first saw it used in the early PPP threads (that doesn't mean those were the ones to introduce it here, though).
What's up with the GIFs on rainbooru? Kinda has after images.
so i asked the guy that recommended me the service and through a help of a translator this is the response. >>35502441>But that site may be run by the Chinese government. They have weaker IP laws and Rainbooru could be stolen with no recourse.事实上阿里云还是相当的安全的,对于境外的话,我推荐用的是香港的服务器,香港的服务器是所有免备案境外服务器里性价比最高的actually aliyun os is quite safe,but if users are foreigners I'll suggest servers in Hongkong,that's one of the most cost effective one among all the record-free(I'm not sure what does免备案means) overseas servers>>35502474>>35502565在境内的服务器确实受有关部门监督,但是不意味着你的一切数据都受有关部门监视(事实上他们没那个兴趣)而境外服务器和其他国外运营商一样遵守所在地区法律限制servers in china did under the supervision of related departments but that doesn't means all your data will be monitored(actually they're not even interested about that). and servers overseas obey the laws where they're located just like other foreign operators事实上,很多非法网站他们用的是阿里云,但是因为是境外网站,国内的有关部门无法管辖,阿里云也不会私自干预,除非你托管的服务会对阿里云的数据中心造成威胁actually many illegal websites also use aliyun os but as they're overseas websites,departments in China can't control them and aliyun os don't make private interactions too,unless services on those websites creates threat to aliyun os's data center而据我所知你在阿里云上能买到的服务器有一部分其实是他们的冗余服务器,是他们日常维持阿里巴巴运转后多余的服务期and as far as I know,some of the servers you can buy from aliyun os is actually their redundant ones,it's their rest ones after they've sustained the Alibaba(1/2)
>>35512307>additional comments:如果你想要绝对的言论自由以及美国那边的版权保护的话,你可以使用美国那边的服务器If you want absolute freedom of speech & Intellectual Property protection things you can choose services in America region.So in theory, the content of that server is protected by the United States (including FBI or CIA covert surveillance)>source:...是合作方(或者说是代理销售)someone working as a partner or sales agent more often(2/2)just dumping the info i got here.
>>35512307>and servers overseas obey the laws where they're located just like other foreign operatorsSo by putting a server in China, we are going to be supporting a government that rounds up and persecutes Muslims and Hong Kongers and gives us a social credit score that could affect the way the server is run, a factor of which we know will eventually be the number of people in the aforementioned groups registered.That will force us to discriminate based on nationality and it is antithetical to the purpose of the site we are building.
>>35512404There are many other countries we can use that probably doesn't have as many Human Rights violations relatively.
>>35512415So there is a porn writer that supports rainbooru?
>>35512496Why did you reply to the human rights post with porn writers?
>>35512553Force of habit
>>35512412>social credit based on what you post>discriminate based on skin colorDoesn't sound so different from the US.
>>35512412no one gives a shit about chinese people or muslims, but fucking with hong kong is pretty blupilled.
>>35512683It absolutely does. While some people do discriminate based on skin color, it is not written into law anywhere (at least not anymore) and there is no “social credit score” system that exists anywhere in law as far as I know of. The 14th Amendment would probably act as a safeguard against both.And if we had it in our laws, other countries would probably have it too and they would still probably be worse.
>>35511402Vanilla should be expanded on to include futa and hypershit
>>35512813Eh, some of us care.
>>35511646I bet you have not met those /trad/ pedos who say anti-pedophilia sentiments are a gynocracy.
>>35512842Betting he means hyper sized shit. Like building sized tits/dick on normal sized ponies.
>>35512826Tell that to the ones who were deplatformed by the tech cartel. What good are laws when it's being applied discriminately? You deny we're not there but we certainly are on that path.
>>35512830>hello fellow whitest. jew
>>35512842Hyper is impossibly sized (body part x), it's not macro since the rest of the pony is normal sized. It started with hyper dicks and tits but there's also hyper fat blobs and so on. There isn't any a lot of hyper on rainbooru yet, but there is a hell of a lot of it on derpi.
>>35512307>actually many illegal websites also use aliyun os but as they're overseas websites,How illegal are we talking about and exactly where they are located. Because there's a big difference between hosting a website for pirated content (something chinks don't care about), hosting controversial opinions (like racial supremacist websites), and hosting stuff that is quickly persecuted in most parts of the world (like CP).>>35512849You mean the fags who constantly post that story of a guy who married a 9yo, a pic of two anime girls showing a graph about how most men like early teenagers, and a Wikipedia article about how the feminist movement is responsible for the raise of the AoC in America? Yeah, I've met them. Just make a thread about the AoC on /pol/ or make a troll post in one of /tv/'s child model threads about how the right is full of pedos and you'll see how they populate every "side".
>>35510142Don't link fluffy shit here. Abusefags can fuck off.
>>35512897Ah you assume whiteness.
>>35512998Wasnt that the website where they do horrible stuff with fluffy ponies?
>>35511838>>35511878im trying as best as i can here its fucking hard to read through a bunch of replies and sorting out the drama and bullshit from the news and happenings
>>35513128Thanks for doing it for free, anchor anon.
>>35512897This is /mlp/, anon, it's like the second most diverse board on 4chan
>>35513203>>35513085>hurff durffpajeets thenNot even a jew would be so stupid as to forget how white horsefuckers are.
>>35513228>>35513203settle down anons, here a random picture
>>35513239He couldn't have gotten a sheet with eye holes to cover his head?
>>35512998Fair enough, but how many other boorus are still up and running eight years later?
>>35513272This doesn't seem like a man who has good ideas.
>>35513272>>35513288its part of the experience
>>35513285gelbooru, danbooru, sankakucomplex, paheal, to name a few.
Suggestion for Rainbooru dev:The no anthro or humanized filter seems to miss a lot of the eqg stuff. So far I've been tagging stuff that makes it through as human but this is probably not an ideal solution for when all of Derpi gets imported. The filters I use on Derpi work pretty well. They are:-equestria girls-humanized-irl human-satyr-semi-anthro-anthroNote that this allows Anon through, but I at least am alright with that. Can get feedback from others.
>>35513454Humanized =/= EQG
>>35513475But EQG = Humanized, it's a one way relationship
>>35513352I was thinking pony offshoot boorus, but sure, they're around too. Too bad we can't just use them. Paheal is my jam.
>>35513475all nohooves trash belongs in the same filter
ive tried to upload this gif a couple times now and every time it breaks with no tags and no file. there's a few broken files on derpi every once in a while and i dont get whats the difference
That porn story mentioning rainbooru is second on the feature list. Neat.
>>35513475While I do not equate the two (I keep my humanized and EQG porn separate), EQG should reasonably be treated as humanized when it comes to stock filters. I do think, however, Raindev should not make too many stock filters. Too many special cases to satisfy.
Rainbooru may have to look over their tags again as not all things seem to be tagged the same even when they should.
>>35513722What about toggle filters that can stack on and off, instead of utalizing one filter at a given time you can 'subscribe' to multiple ones at once. like how ad blockers work
>>35513921rainbooru.org/img/ 169rainbooru.org/img/ 170Also this one below shows up even with safe search on.https://www.rainbooru.org/img/ 149
>>35510142I'm down for a new booru, but it'll be pointless if they don't have better tags. Literally the only reason people use DB is because the tags are some of the best out of any image board on the internet.
>>35514050We're working on it
>>35514050I think most will have at least all the same tags considering they will be imported when ready.
>>35513971>Rating:Explicit vs Explicitit's because of the nature of anons making up their own tagging system, so this one emulated e621 while you'd need to copy derpi's tagging for the filter to work. I fixed all 3 tags, but you could have done the same.
>>35514130I see, also that second guillotine is missing a guillotine tag.
>>35514145Yeah we need tag aliases so stuff like that doesnt slip through.
It seems like Rainbooru doesn't preserve filters between sessions.
>>35514312It’s a cookie thing on your side
>>35514312Allow the cookies, or, have filters included in the url saved to your bookmark
>>35514392>>35514412No, he's right. Filters are only session cookies right now. Tomorrow's main project is actually going to be persistent filters
>>35514517Just make images explicit/special rating "unrated" by default on upload so people have to manually tag it to be more filter permissive?
>>35515057next time wait for 9
>>35514517What is the difference?
Suggestion for dev: enforce a minimum of tags on upload like rating, and artist (or an anonymous artist tag).Some guy uploaded a bunch of AJ picks with 3-4 tags (mostly if not all without artist tag). A site like this isn't going to function well without proper tagging.
>>35515083I think the problem with session cookies is that you need to have an open tab 24/7 to keep your filters.With a permanent one, you can leave the site, but your filters will keep going until you close the web browser
>>35515222Yeah, and the tags “screencap” OR “artist:whoever”/“unknown artist” should be required
>>35515315or “artist needed” so people can find the pictures that need tagging
>>35515222>>35515315Maybe have a handful of boxes that force you to tag rating and artist before you upload
How would I go about making a list of all the pictures that have been deleted from derpi? Do they keep the deleted images' metadata, and can I get a list of deleted stuff from the API? I want to make a personal backup from TPA or Rome, but I need to know which ones to download.
Is there any point in uploading derpibooru's images to rainbooru right now? Are they going to be imported later or not?
>>35516042Like I said: >fetch all pictures from derpi>allow people to upload pics tooThat way you keep the database bigger than derpi. That's how Gelbooru is more popular than other boorus - it grabs pictures from different sources.Don't expect people to upload 1000s of pics from derpi manually.
>>35515083In computing, there are two kinds of cookies. Session cookies last until you close your browser. Persistent cookies last until the expiration date encoded into the cookie. They do basically the same thing but session cookies are faster to set and read and often encrypted so a nigga cant just steal your cookie and log in as you
>>35516059I'm not the new booru guy, it would be just a personal backup I could share later if needed.They seem to keep the metadata of deleted images:https://derpibooru.org/api/v1/json/images/2385507And the API docs say if an image is not deleted, deletion_reason will have a null value.So in theory I could make a script that does that API call for every image number, and prints the image ID to a text file only if deletion_reason is not null. Then I can delve into the archives and download them.I only know some bash, so I don't know how feasible it'll be.
>>35510268But it does certainly continue to point out the double standards with "ponies aren't your mouthpiece" vs "lol edgy" bullshit.
>>35516119Or you can use database dump instead: https://derpibooru.org/pages/data_dumps . You need to know how to handle database, though.
>>35516169/mlp/ can be hypocritical when they want to, even when they have a point.
>>35516169People can filter mouthpiece images if they don't want to see themPeople can filter Aryanne images if they don't want to see themSimple as
>>35510268idk man, they might have a point. You can see what pic related did to them.
>>35510142>szurubooruhow tf did i not hear of this site before?! and made by a fellow countryman on top of thatyet another site to rip
>>35516175>know how to handle databaseYeah, I don't. I wish I knew more about development and stuff. With the absolute obsession I have with ponies, I would have made the ultimate pony booru/archive/board with blackjack and hookers all by myself.I'll see if I can make that script. I just found out about jq and it makes it easy to handle json. I can't believe I put up with grep and sed autism till today, I'm a fucking retard.
We've seen what happened to Derpibooru. How do we prevent woketards from getting in power on these new websites?
>>35516570Don't let them in, and kick them out when they do.
>>35516570In my experience the only true safeguard is for the person who owns the shit has to be biased and anonymous. Like connecting to the site admin account via Tor in a windowed screen anonymous. Like pay the extra premium so none of their information is publicly available from the hosting company without a police warrant anonymous.That way they can prune any power hungry double retards with an agenda out of the modding team and stay neutral without a lynch mob finding them and threatening them. Even better if they have a separate moderating account, under a fake persona with utterly different opinions to their own to interact with other mods, never letting on that their the owner and their owner account is used only for demoting mod’s.The best way to achieve this state is having multiple sites instead of just one, so once someone gets one up and running they just throw up the code so people can makes clones. That way if the owner gets exposed they can pack up shop and everyone just slides over to the next best run clone.
>>35516314szurubooru is the framework used. The owner of foalcon forgot to change the default name.
>>35516625Sounds like censor ship
>>35516625>let's fight censorship>by implementing censorship
>>35516777>>35516784Go home derpitards.How is this censorship? Censorship is when you do not allow some type of content, not when you kick a moderator out because the mod enforces his/her own ideology.A random single user is never in power.
>>35516798But you are trying to censor the opinions of woketards by kicking them out, effectively making you the on the same level as the derpi mods.
>>35516570>>How do we prevent woketards from getting in power on these new websites?>"Any organization that isn't openly and unabashedly right-wing will degrade to left-wing over time."... and I doubt Raindev want to do that, so the answer is "we won't, just enjoy the site while it last and get ready to switch again in a handful of years".
>>35516798>How is this censorship?the fact that you can't even see the dualism in your own train of thought is amusing
>>35516812No, you are not censoring the content idiot. You are kicking out the user in power (aka mod) for censoring content.
>>35516798You've become what you hated.
>>35516823So instead of censoring the art you censor the individual. it's still censorship isn't it?
>>35516819>>35516812>Stopping people from deleting discussions and art and makeing people with an agenda engage with the people they dissagree with as equals is censorship.The Wokie cries as they hit you.
>>35516834>Don't let them in, and kick them out when they do.That doesn't sound like a discussion.
>>355168343 people already told you that you're wrong. maybe move away from your keyboard, take a deep breath and consider for a second that you might be wrong herethis or keep your head up your comfy ass
>>35516841Not him but I took as don't let them into the mod team, not don't let them onto the site.
>>35516856That's more understandable.
>>35516834I just don't want censorship period, be they left-wingers or right-wingers
>>35516860but in that case you'd need a hardcore anarchist as a moderator
>>35516873Well it's never gonna be perfect I suppose, so we'll deal with it when it arises.
>>35516841>>35516842Wrong again faggot, I'm a different anon to the one you were trying to shit post into believing there was more than one or two try hards with sore asses from derpi coming over to gas light.Your the ones jumping in here and claiming that not being able to censor others is censorship.The perfect system should make it impossible for anyone to censor anyone, then it won't matter who the mods are. Untill that time the team will have to be carefully curated to retain only people with a proven abilty to remain neutral.
>>35516894>The perfect system should make it impossible for anyone to censor anyoneaside from some obvious issues like spam, not further than yesterday some /pol/tard was screeching at me that anarchy doesn't work in any form and so we need the /pol/s "patrician choice". yet here you are expecting some arbitrary person or team to decide who to keep and who to kick. care to talk with him?
Still working on compromises and code. Getting a really good understanding of what's going on with code and how to manage different things.Attempting a final re-brand before launch today / tonight.I will be shutting the server off for a while each night I sleep to make sure it can be moderated till I have a good mod team.
>>35516937we already had an attempt to replace derpi and it turned out to be just as bad. what makes yours better?
>>35517022>(((we)))Faggot>and it turned out to be just as bad(You). Rainbooru still is a WiP, and nothing about moderation has been decided yet or confirmed by the actual admin.
>>35517022Which one was this?
>>35517044>>35517048He's just trying to shit up the thread. Ignore it.
What's Lightining Dust up to?
Can you make rainbooru like 4 chan when commenting in art. Lol i just told the derpibooru moods to kill themeself
>>35517022At list we are not communist
>>35517070Damn it wrong thread again.
>>35517083Besides how retarded your post is and how much you should kill yourself and get out, a Yotsuba theme would be nice.
>>35517083Rule #0: Comments must begin with >implying
>>35517221Get out derp fag this booru is different then that shit of a website
>>35517044yes, WE. plenty of times>and nothing about moderation has been decided yet or confirmed by the actual adminwow, it's completely irrelevant to what i posted>>35517048poniboo.ruand a few others now that i think of it. can't remember them all>>35517064cry me a river, you censor happy faggot. i bet that my posts would be gone if you only had anything to say about it
Anon how much will cost to buy derpibooru or bride the owner to sell it
The List Grows Larger Anons, no pressure but windows closing https://pastebin.com/JHTSiBSe
>>35517746A list of artists, neat.
>>35517746>jargon scott>rhorse>lockheart >mkogwheelHoly shit, they really fucked up
>>35517746>some small artists>majority is "Artist Upload Only" so still present on dbmeh
>>35517861small artists or not we need every bit we have if anythings gonna change with derpi
>>35517826>jargon scottThat one may hurt them big time considering how Twiggie is popular on the fandom.Also Empressbridle signed that, which is popular among the anthrofags.
>>35517826mkcuckwheel putting himself on DNP is a surprise because he cucked out backpedaling with the drawing safety squad ponies then trying to sanatize them later
>>35517882i meant that the damage is smaller than the pastebin maker suggests
>>35517884I wonder if this derpi business will harm him credibility wise with the fandom that is not /mlp/
>>35517926its still progress not great progress but progress nonetheless
>>35517929Applejack's Plantation didn't and that had show staff behind it
>>35517929Only if the SJW fucks retaliates against him and try to burn him in public, but if they do that it may backfire as a lot of Jargon fans will support him
>>35517930i don't think it'll be bad. many artists use this site for promotional purposes or to get patrons and db is the biggest attractor of pony related stuff
>>35517952the staff cried about it on twitter, and nothing happened to him
>>35518075Hell, hattsy was called out for openly saying slurs and didn't back down, and it seemed to have done fuck all to him.Looks to me like only twitter twats really give a shit.
>oc: littlepip>two imagesPlease tell me there will be some bot just copypasting pics from Derpi.I cant muster the autism to get all of my waifu on there, thats 3k pics or sumthing
One small step for man
>>35518239Bingo. Not to mention the clowns that were rallying behind w0tguy were almost exclusively furries.
>>35518250Once Raindev feels rainbooru is up to snuff.
>>35518339Is this pic from Rainbooru, Anon?
>>35518239This.Don't ever. Ever. EVER. APOLOGIZE TO THE MOB.
To the archive owners, what about having a parallel system with derpi posts and your respective site? Something like the images having r/t/z in front of the file's ID when saving, and when visiting the site itself, you could have it like rainbooru.org/derpi/####. If possible and desired, you could have it embedded from their site (or redirecting to the site if it's still up, but that's your call)>>35518349https://derpibooru.org/2176590 With the ID that high, how would it have been from rainb?
>>35518372If someone posted it there, which you can do. Chop chop.
>>35518372I think I can add an identifier for the image download later.
>>35518357>>35518351not him buthttps://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?page=16
>>35518397you still haven't answered my question
>>35518397How soon til your site is up?
Rainbooru update. Default and persistent filters are here. New users should no longer be bombarded with horse pussy on arrival, which means no more premature robbing kids of their innocence. Also, after selecting a filter and closing the browser, the site will remember your preferences for next time you visit as long as you do not clear your cookies. The filter cookie only lasts six months but I think that should be fine. Also, the premade Vanilla Explicit filter has been expanded to include hyper, inflation, and macro
>>35518463Thanks for the hard work.
>>35518463N O I C E !
>>35518411Whoops, the /derpi/ thing / link to is pretty uhh, it wouldn't really be a great thing starting out. It'd be pretty difficult for me to manage that + added complexity and another layer of image grabbing.Probably going to dash some people's hearts here; I won't be importing the entirety of derpibooru in right away, if at all. I want the site to grow naturally without the bloat of 2m images off the bat. That's a lot of CPU power.If I do something it'll be a slow trickle into the database to make sure I don't exhaust resources needed for real users.Additionally during that process, that's the time I'd want to identify the site and original ID where the image came from. Be that in the description, or a separate json value in the generated output.>>35518425I was aiming for tonight but I'm getting distracted. My (yt) archive bot needed a small patch to function again, and I still need to overhaul several parts of it to work properly again after YT's update.
>>35516314It's good, but missing significant amounts of content. I didn't see any of the EQG edits.
>>35518495Oh, I (>>35518372 (You)) wasn't >>35518411. No clue who that was. I did reply though. >>35518450 (You)>it wouldn't really be a great thing starting out.>It'd be pretty difficult for me to manage that + added complexity and another layer of image grabbing.Damn. Unfortunate, but kinda understandable. Any chance you could at least get the deleted ones displaying though? And/or maybe have the site link for a derpi image go derpi,zizzy,org/#### instead? Or is that the same amount of hassle?
>>35518239The twitter mob just gave up after a week when woot "called out" hattsy. If there's anything to learn from this is to not give a shit about anything the twitter mob says.
>>35518463Good work man
>>35518239>>35518339Oh and I feel like I should expand on that: I meant like, FURRIES, furries. As in 100% non-pone not-even-anthro-pone kind.
Should there be a spoilers for images that may cause seizures on rainbooru , or should individuals filter it out on their own first?
>>35518624I feel like spoilers would the best, even to non epileptic people these gifs can hurt to look at.
>>35518811so flavor spoilers the way derpi does it?
>>35518899I think so, it works for them so it most likely work for us.
>>35516937Good news.>I will be shutting the server off for a while each night I sleep to make sure it can be moderated till I have a good mod team.Maybe make it display nicer message than "error! server not found" when it's off?
>>35518463Thank you rainbro, have a rainbow
>>35518463You’re the best, rainbro
>>35518502>barbiefag mspaint edits>content
>>35518495I'll ask because I'm curious. What exactly is your booru? Are you still doing the split booru thing? And if so, if I were to upload my stuff to the horse site would it also appear on the furry one?
>>35518495>I won't be importing the entirety of derpibooru in right away, if at allWill Twibooru? I feel like it defeats the purpose of having alternatives if they don't have the content.
>>35519117Everybody has said they will import Derpi when they are ready.
>>35518953Who should be the spoiler for epileptic images?
>>35519135Glitchpone? I don't know if that's his actual name.
>>35519135derpi uses vinyl, we could use lyra for human on pony
Can’t be fucked reading 8+ threads, but if there’s still concerns about scalability and shit, why not have the data itself shared between the three fledgling boorus?
>>35519758Because the more people who know the credentials to the database, the more people who are able to access it and the greater the possibility of a data breach. Also, some web storage plans only allow for a finite maximum and a single database may exceed that limit.t. A PHP developer with back-end, front-end, and full-stack experience
That's a lot of Applejacks on Rainbooru.
Will Rainbooru have standardization with their tags or is it up to the uploader to make tags however they think it fits the art?
>>35519849I'm going to implement tag aliases that attempt to account for various ways of tagging. I want most things to be in line with derpibooru like oc:name and artist:name. So with the aliases hopefully if it detects a known artist or oc it should automatically convert the tag to the proper format. Also I have noticed some people using e621's tag format so I'll need to convert from that to derpi format.>>35519800Yeah some guy did a dump. Bless him
>>35519887Just linking this suggestion from earlier >>35513454. Also, nice job on the site. Impressive to see how fast things are moving on the changelog.
>someone dumps a bunch of images of EqG/humanized art>they don't tag it as EqG/humanized
>>35520520Hey it's just some tagging. EZ fix and less 50 pages right now. Until the auto scraper kicks in.
Another idea: automatic tagging based on a filename. Something that would make artists move easily from derpibooru to rainbooru.
>>35520987Filenames don't have all the tags. A GET request to derpi's API using the filename of the uploaded image could retrieve all the tags, among other things though.
>>35520520I've been copypasting tags from derpi. Seems like the most efficient approach. That being said, an autotagger would be nice. I guess this >>35520987 plus this >>35521153 could work, assuming people are uploading pics with derpi filenames.That being said, I think there are more urgent matters (personally I'm a fan of having the pic's score visible, including the option to up/downvote, from the thumbnail page. And color code the up/downvoting buttons).
>>35521197You just posted that same shitty post on derpibooru you fucking glownigger
>>35521209i just giving a solution to solve this ploblem you know one day rainbooru and twilightbooru will end up like derp is inevatible
>>35521217the other is keep runing from them
Is the booru Ziggy was making up?
>>35521267Down right now, making sure the install process works.
keep deleting it faggot this fandom is doom anyway
>>35518463>six monthsDoes it refresh when you visit the site, or only when you set the filter? I can kind of see the logic of clearing the default filter if someone doesn't open the website for six months, but if someone is browsing actively using the same filter and six months in it suddenly turns off, it'd be weird.Is there any downside to setting it to last till like 2099 or whatever MAX_INT seconds works out to?
>>35521314It refreshes every time you select a filter
>>35518400So does this mean it’s over and we don’t have to worry? I say site development should continue in the event it isn’t... and just in case they try this again. This sort of thing happens every year and people lose their sh*t over it.
>>35521635Lmao no that comment is literally nothing. A mod is tired. That's it.Later on the same mod did say that he and some others are organising an argument against the change, to discuss it with the rest of the staff. That there is the actually notable post. HOWEVER, the site owner - who's notoriously authoritarian - isn't just gonna back out because of a few staff being unhappy. And most of the staff are probably bootlicking enough that they won't even resign or protest in any way if they're shot down, they'll just accept things. Thing is, even if they wanted to back out, there will be artists from the SJW crowd who now have their attention on the situation and who will definitely boycott the site in that case. There's probably less of them than there are based artists, but the tankie owner almost certainly cares about them more. It's a lose-lose, it's not clear which way loses more, but it's clear which way the owner would really not want to lose. Derpibooru dug its grave and now there's no going back, no matter what they do.
Is anyone else having trouble loading Rainbooru or is it just me? I can pull up the changelog alright, but trying to load the main page is getting me a spinning loading icon.
>>35522539It stopped working for me for a moment but now it works.
>>35522544nevermind it's working now
>>35522539>>35522544>>35522553>>35522560I am testing new code for the front page. New code works great except for the part where you get stuck in an infinite loop! I will be switching back and forth between the new and old code until I have diagnosed the problem
>>35522544Rainbooru still having brocken images problem?
Do you guys think that we could have an increased userbase on Rainbooru because of Derpi's fuck up? I know there's been more uploads but dunno if they've been dumps of people from this thread.
>>35523040Could be but don't know if RainDev keeps track of that.
>>35523040I came back to upload new art there.
>>35523040i see rainbooru ending up as a "mirror" like some other sites have. and that's the best case scenario, worst case is it either collapsing under load or ending up as a minor spinoff
>>35523040Realistically? No. For sure some of the DB DNP'ers will post there, but I'm worried about those teetering in and out of the fandom finally deciding to leave it once and for all and not have to deal with DB's bullshit. I really fucking hope DB will eventually just man up and admit they fucked up (or at least just say they "jumped the gun"), but who knows. If they don't, it's gonna fracture the fandom, and I feel like DB and Rainbooru will just slowly sink into nothingness and then the fandom will be legitimately dead.
Sorry, I haven't been watching these threads that much, but me and some other artists are going to be jumping ship to rainbooru and twibooru when that comes out. Is there some kind of automatic transfer tool made for it yet or will there be one implemented eventually? Because right now: many artists are filing DNPs in protest of derpibooru's recent actions, that means all of our art will already be down.
>>35510145Rainbooru update. I have completed a basic set of mod tools and retard-proofed them. Subsequently, I hired two mods, added a staff page so you can see all the mods, made a link to the canary page, and added a public bans page. I have decided that in the interest of transparency, mods on rainbooru are not going to be anonymous, so I'll let you know that two guys I got where niggerdrawfag and patachu aka darkdoomer. I know both of them and think that they will do very well. If the do not, I will of course remove them rather than letting them go on a banning spree. And worry not, the mass delete function is hardcoded to the last 6 hours worth of posts and the ban function is hard capped at 24 hours.>>35523040Userbase has gone up. Statistics indicate the site has had 3000 unique visitors this past week, with 800 unique visitors a day. Seems most people just enjoy lurking and browsing for now. I plan to add notification bells for comments and watched tags. I hope that will boost user involvement as people come back to get new updates on comment threads and tags.>>35523446There will be a transfer tool soon. I had originally intended to polish the site more before building that tool, but since there is a lot of demand I think that needs to be added next.
>>35523620Strike the iron when it's hot: Shino and AnontTheAnon is on board!
>>35523446Rainbooru is up right now, I think next will be Zizzy's booru, and Twibooru is soon.
>>35523446If your art was already pulled off derpi, rainbooru lets you upload 10 files at a time to their site. It will make reupping pretty fast.
>>35523620>I have completed a basic set of mod tools and retard-proofed them.We of the retard community will not stand for this.
>>35523620So how does one with a vested interest in horse-art preservation and an open right-thinking mind apply?Especially screening out totalitarians, even of the "muh ban anthro" types. (For the record, I fucking hate anthro)
>>35524091https://github.com/Sibusten/derpibooru-downloaderI've been using this to download all of my art. My advice? find your favorite artists/tags and start downloading.
>>35523620>>35524091Hey raindev, I think I broke it trying to upload
Could you just use primary keys to create tables of tags of specific images, with another table of all of the tags that exist? That may allow for unlimited tags.
>>35524196Yah there's a problem with gif uploading. I know it's the source of the tearing problem and I'm hoping that fixing it will also correct the missing file problem as well.>>35524224Tags are already unlimited. It is as you say. There is a tag table, an image table, and a join table between the two
>>35524224Don’t leave your keys on the table, remember the song warned us about doing that.
>>35524233What server are you running your site on? Apache supports both reading and writing GIF images.
>>35524264Puma. The problem with gifs is I'm processing images with ImageMagick and I didnt realize that I had to uncompress the gif before resizing it. So I'm writing that code right now.
>>35520520one of the reasons I said that a secondary mandatory tag menu was needed
Is it possible to put in place a system to detect duplicate uploads in Rainbooru? With people currently uploading their favorite pics in an unsystematic way, I feel a lot of dupes are bound to happen.Also, gifs are still broken (both the thumbnails and the full-sized images themselves), so this will need to be addressed.
>>35524927The duplicate detector /should/ already be operating. As for the gif issue, I dont want to push the update while people are dumping as that will kill their upload
>>35524932That's great to hear, ty
Rainbo is kill.
>>35524932>The duplicate detectorCould similar technology be used to screen for prohibited images?
>>35524966Somebody uploaded a large file and used all my RAM! I rebooted the site>>35524972I subscribed to a cloudflare service that does that, but in theory yes, you could do that too
>>35524966>>35524978Full disclosure, this is my fault.
>>35524978Hey, would it be possible to add an option on the upload screen to auto-import Derpibooru tags? Like an optional Derpi link input box and have the site grab the tags from there? It would make mass uploads so much easier.
>>35524972>prohibited imagesYou mean like Nazi images? ^:)>>35524980Good to know that the uploading is already being partially automated. I've been uploading manually for the last couple of days but it gets boring.
>>35524983I just finished the script to parse Derpi links and am implementing that feature right now.
>>35524987I'm going to back off for now seeing as I may have managed to crash the server.
>>35524987>You mean like Nazi images?I certainly don’t agree with what they say, but they have a right to say it.I was referring to illegal content to host on a server, such as CP.
Gifs don't tear anymore btw
>>35525003Some still do. See https://www.rainbooru.org/img/2461 and https://www.rainbooru.org/img/2532 for instance.
>>35525016It looks like it's dropping keyframes
>>35525019No I literally just pushed the update when I restarted after the crash. Only new gifs should work. Old gifs need to be reprocessed to correct them.
>>35525019It might have something to do with the inage descriptors. The frames are probably correct; the issue is that they're not displaying in the right position
>>35525022ah, that'd do it then
>>35525024The problem is how gifs are compressed. When they are compressed not every frame is stored. Only the first frame and the difference between every frame and the previous are encoded. If you try to resize and image like that you will be resizing a bunch of differentials and pasting them in the wrong place in the master image or some shit. So before you resize a gif you have to render each complete frame from the file
Even on derpibooru some GIFs break:https://derpibooru.org/images/626270(That was a GIF with per-frame palettes, derpi didn't like that. That was a few years ago)
>>35525042>open the box>universe collapses in on itselffucking poetic
>>35524983i was thinking having source link should be next for QoL, but this is devious
what the hell is the 'email protected.com' tag?
>>35524932i cant tell the difference between these, does the dup filter only catch new stuff?https://www.rainbooru.org/img/178https://www.rainbooru.org/img/177
A Derpibooru import page is up and running at rainbooru.org/portThis is the first iteration of the feature so only one image at a time. It automatically imports tags as well as the image. No comments or original postdates yet, just descriptions and tags. I have tested the feature a bit but I'm not sure if it's robust enough to stand up to everything you might try to plug into the import bar. Like webms for instance. Almost 100% certain webms will cause an error. Confirmed working for default derpy URLs like "derpibooru.org/images/image_id?some_other_bullshit>>35525121The tag adder is just a html form and early in site development some guy was trying to make a tagging macro and his browser autofilled it with a bunch of janky strings like [email protected] and email@example.com and those tags got places on a lot of images>>35525133Yeah those were uploaded from before I had set up the filter
>>35525220Cool, that will make the transfer from Derpibooru simpler for artists.But I got internal server error on the first try (nice error page).
>>35525304thank you based anchor anon
>>35525220>This is the first iteration of the feature so only one image at a time. It automatically imports tags as well as the imageneatAlso, I would like to mention about a couple of small features of you don't mind.The first one is if you could adjust the tags in alphabetical order. The other one consists in the download of any image. When you see the thumbnail, there is a "serial number" that would reveal the upload of that image within the site. It's a small detail sure but it would work as a point of reference and would give info about the date of that upload on this site.
>>35525949perhaps an example works better. I mean that when you download an image, Derpi displays in the thumbnail the number of images uploaded up to that point. That Rarity image displays this thumbnail but its serial number (like the URL displays) is actually 2683.Perhaps I am sounding really repetitive with this but it's a small detail that I would appreaciate quite a bit.
>>35525949>serial numberif you are suggesting the number be like the one on derpi we dont want that. we want our own hash so search engines correctly point to rainbooru
>>35526086He's suggesting that Rainbo adopt the same principle as Derpi, that is to say, to have the image id saved in the image's name. I agree, I think it would be nice and sensible.
>>35526086If we want more than 65,536 tags total, such field will be necessary. These Anons >>35524224 >>35524233 have described how having unlimited tags is possible and it is done with something called a primary key. Said primary key can be used as what you have said.
>>35525949>in alphabetical order.And separated by type too, like how derpi has rating-artist/edit/screencap-characters-ocs-species-episodes-misc in that order
>>35525949>>35526203>tags in alphabetical orderi'm against. when you rip the site, (and rainbooru will be ripped) it's much better when the artist tag goes as one of the first. this way you prevent artist to be kicked out due to a long filename
>>35526234unless it's gonna keep the hierarchy like this>>35526203
>>35526234It is a simple SQL command, using the SORT BY operand.
Just copied all my art from DB to rainbooru. I think some images got eaten though. They're kill. RIP
>>35523652Shino is a literal fucking asshole, though.
>>35525220I'm trying to upload this gif but can't.http://www.rainbooru.org/img/2970http://www.rainbooru.org/img/2968
>>35526377One of those succeeded, the other seems to have failed.
>>35526301Working on it!
>>35526301Also working on it. But slower because I am learning and have 0.1 clue on what I'm doing.
>>35526478Good luck man, you're doing the lord's work.
>>35526470>>35526478webm/mp4/mkv will be very easysvg and swf won't be
>>35526585What, swf has builtin security risks too?I guess it's anything with live code
>>35526603swf is a container. you can put anything into it
>>35526619Even my dick?I wanna do that set quality to low and see if I get a pixel dick
>>35526630>put your dick into swf and vectorize>scale up a few magnitudes>put every alpha chad to shame
>>35526179I haven't seen such pajeetery since my freshman year group projects in uni holy shit
>>35526630But Anon, if the quality is too low how will we know if there's a dick in there or not? You'll be stuck with Schrodinger's dick.
>>35526585MP4's are quite complex with a beast like Philomena.
Kek there are two pages of "derpibooru exclusive" on rainbooru>>35526727That's one nice thing about writing a site from scratch. I DONT PLAY BY ANYBODY'S RULES. Webm and mp4 and ogg lol support will be added tonight for sure. It turned out to be dead simple in plain ruby
Sijmilar to derpi's "derpibooru exclusive", there should be a "rainbooru/altbooru exclusive" tag applied. Wouldn't apply for images that got deleted off of derpi, and should be tagged with "deleted from derpi", "derpi deletion", or some variant of those.>>35523841kek
>>35526797You need any help, I'm angry at Philomena and there's very little documentation. Language is difficult as well.
>>35526797please support vp9 webms if you don't alreadyevery time i have to convert my animations to vp8 and make tyhem look like horseshit something inside me withers and dies a little
>>35526825I saw the tag "too hot for Derpi", could be that for deleted stuff.
>>35526825>Derpibooru exclusive (Not!)
Rainbooru's dead. Was failing to generate a lot of images, now just displays application crashed.
>>35526939i-i just wanted to dump a million images...
>>35526939It's back again, but has plenty of images that can't be displayed, maybe the site wasn't ready for all those imports?
>>35526983Maybe limit the rate and add a queue, but the queue would need coding by itself.
>>35526853Add some sort of note to these if you do, or a tag. It'll be annoying to download something and see it's not uploadable on this shithole.
>>35526645>pajeeteryIs that a derogatory term for CS professionals?
>>35527022>tag: "4chan(nel) complaint">bellow 4 megs only>only accepted formats and encoding
Finished uploading my art to Rainbooru. The import tool was very helpful even if I only had about half my stuff on Derpi.
>>35527140Damn...that's deep...Maybe the real journey was the Pajeets we met along the way.
>>35527140>Tfw Pajeet was just that shitposter you laughed at when he shitted on a thread instead of the looWhen I see him again, I'll give him some HP and I let him use my garden if he doesn't want my bathroom
can we make the nonbinary equivalent of a brony and a pegasister an enbycorn? it also implies that non-binary people can be multiple things (unicorn or alicorn)
>>35525220I think it crashed, it creates empty pics
>>35527341Yeah, those are called the mentally ill
>>35527436we need more clarification though
>>35527349Seems to be working now
>>35527517but there are many people with mental illness in this fandomwhether you're ableist or you're supportive of mental illness, 'mentally ill' bronies is too broad a term and we'd need to make a more specific category for nonbinary peeps in the fandomenbycorns is fine.
>>35527517No, that's alicorns who are 90s-00s rappers.
>>35527529Snowflakes get cast unto the flames.
>>35527341what the fuck are you talking about
>>35527529I frankly don't care and it's not my job to.If a nonbinary feels the need to make a term to tag their photo they can make one. If I want to tag myself a birony or something I'll do it on my own.
>>35527649how about fuck useless tags and stick with it being about the art. all of this trash belongs to stay quarentined on twitter
>>35527667And if artist makes nonbinary character, d you put both male and female tag for it or make a specific tag?
>>35527667Eh. I don't care enough to police either. Live and let live.>>35527672You mean like a trans oc or something? I'd be surprised if there weren't already tags for those
>>35527672If it has a dick it's male, a cunt it's female, if both it's a degenerate futa. It's not that hard.
>>35527436>>35527517>>35527641>>35527667>>35527679the kind of people who definitely can't be a mod. make notes raindev
>>35527672all youre doing is reminding me that we need an easy way to add this kind of dumpster fire to a blacklist. fuck off.
>>35527682Hello Derpi tourist. You need to go back.
>>35527341>>35527472>>35527641>>35527679Hi new IPs
>someone derails the thread with nonsense claims againIgnore him and move on
but seriously, raindev, save yourself a headache and avoid people who will try to turn your site into califate. it's easy to spot them
>>35527682If you don't tag what's in the images how can people filter it?
>>35527730Yeah that's the beauty of a filter system like this. It encourages everyone to tag it whether they hate or love it and everyone who's not a retard wins.
>>35527730are you sure you're replying to a proper post? because i'm very okay with all kinds of tags
>>35527745It's the right post. The situation where:>search for female>get wall of dicksDoesn't seem very helpful. Can add extra tags if you'd like, but should also tag what actually is in the image.
>>35527753>search for female>filter out dick or some other specific tag
When you hover over a thumbnail on Derpibooru, the tags appear like pic related. I want this on Rainbooru. I find it useful because if you can't really tell what's going on in an image or who the characters are from the thumbnail, a quick glance at the tags can tell you if it's something you want to see or not. >>35527753Images should be tagged male or female based on the sex of the characters in the image, not their gender. Checkmate tumblrina.
>>35527762Then what's the point of the female tag if it doesn't actually refer to females? (Similarly for male if you'd like)
>>35527777your example was retarded. it applies to cases like this>>35527672
>>35527783Assuming an explicit image I would go back to >>35527679. If SFW, then you can come up with some other tag if you'd like, which you can use in conjunction with other tags. If no genitals at all I think they call nullo, though I could be wrong.
what am i looking at rn
>>35527801art is not real life and anything goes so these kinds of tags are too inaccuratealso don't make me bring up the Buck example
>>35527804Rainbooru sometimes goes down, it's been happening a bit today so it might be because of all the new uploads.
>>35527822>Art is not real lifeThat is true and is the only reason things like futa can exist. I don't see how this changes anything though. I'm saying to tag according to what's visible in the picture.>The buck exampleI got no clue what you mean.
>what if an artist makes an alphabet character?Post it to derpi where it belong
So it looks like the thread is talking about rainbooru adopting e621's TWYS, which pisses off the creators with horrible contintuity even if it's in the same comic one page they might be tagged male and another they might be tagged something else like intersex even if its the same character, TWYS trumps 'word of god'.in context of derpi's system, a femboy is just a male with a mare body and facial structure so e621 would be tagged as such unless we saw an actual dick but then how would you be able to tell the difference between a faggot femboy and a futa mare?
>>35527831>I don't see how this changes anything thoughyou just admitted that there's a difference. add 2 to 2>I'm saying to tag according to what's visible in the pictureit's not always clear what's visible in the picturehow about actually using more tags instead of less especially since raindev wants to implement infinite amount of them
So even if it's not real it doesn't change what's onscreen. If it's not visible then the artist can basically call it whatever the hell they want.
>>35527862you're a bit dense, aren't you?
>>35527891So you got nothing? No argument as to why we shouldn't tag based on things explicitly visible in the image vs what the artist "feels" the character is?
>>35527904The question we should be asking is whether adding a tag will make it more difficult to accurately find/filter content we want when making searches.I would vote TWYS because if you want mares, an image of a trap with no visible dick is the same. An "Affeminate" tag might be useful for those who want the kind of cutesy female-looking traps tend to be. e621's lore: tags may also be useful.It doesn't mater, though. With the importer in place rainbooru will inherit derpibooru's tagging philosophy anyways and it'd be better to have consistent tagging. Unless you want to go through two million images retagging them to a system the fandom at large may not even be familiar with.
>>35527884i'm not gonna go through examples when you can't even grasp the conceptagain: more tags won't hurt
>>35527933Since it's importing Derpi's tags, that's well enough. "Mares" with a dick are tagged as futa and not female. While perhaps not the most accurate, functionally it works well enough. Don't know what TWYS is an acronym for.
>>35527951Wasn't arguing against more tags, was arguing for the proper use of the female, male, and futa tags.
>>35528022>Wasn't arguing against more tags>but there should be only 3
>>35528035You could add nullo to that if you wanted to be fully complete. With those four tags it should cover any combination of organs I can think of. Anything else would be an additional descriptor on top of those.
>>35528056this is your chance to be a derpi mod. they're going totalitarian lately and could definitely use your help
>>35528008Tag What You See. Ignore information not in the image itself.
>>35528075No I meant that's what the acronym means
>>35528068>>35528078Took me a moment, but yeah that's what I'm trying to advocate.
>>35528065For adding more tags for people to filter with?
>>35528102i'm the one here who wants more tags
>>35528131Sorry, got the wrong number
>>35527933>pic is a femboy or futa oc without showing a cock>TWYS says its a mare>interested in more, click on oc character tag>get faggotry insteadits not a perfect system. whats the one derpi uses? it seems fine and changing to a new tagging system just creates a shit load more work to tag management transfering.
>>35528159I think it's an hybrid with a leaning to following Word-of-God? I've never seen much fuzz over it.
>>35528166then id just do what derpi does to handle this. we have enough pony pictures of mares that we dont need bleed over of femboys, and if people wanted e621s tagging then theyd use e621 not derpi.
>>35528159Derpi doesn't have a gender tagged. I guess it's less relevant since it's SFW. Looks like a mare, nyx is a filly so if you we're to tag a gender it would be female. Derpi's tagging system has seemed fine to me. Basically >>35528166.
>>35528204so in the context of dicks i looked at derpi. the vast majority of marecock pictures are not tagged as female, futa is a separate tag entirely with very little pics that fall through the cracks.
>>35528247I observed the same. As I said it seems to work pretty well.
These broken images are being caused by multiple users uploading shortly after one another. I've tested both the port function and regular upload and both are affected. I'm going to stop posting while the other anon continues his dump.
>>35528285I've been seeing broken images for the entire time I've been dumping, even when nobody else seems to be uploading. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the dupe detection.
>>35528285people are leaving the sinking ship
>>35528304It's a pattern I've seen over the past hour. Images uploaded within 15-30 seconds of one another, one will be broken (the second one). If the images are further apart than that, neither will be broken.
>>35527679>>35527777quads of logic>>35527672the answer is to put only nonbinary tag. Not male or female. Then add genital tags.>>35527838The following tags are as complete as I'm aware of:Male/female, intersex/futa (futa implies intersex), cuntboy/dickgirl(shemale), busty boy (guy with tits), trap/crossdessing, and nonbinary (which I had to check due to mentions in this thread) That last one actually isn't used in a practical sense that I can tell within the 20 non-safe images it's tagged with. The others have the flag in it or just some kind of speshul snowflek-tier tagging. Which honestly, doesn't even surprise me. The other tags are actually practical for tagging and filtering purposes, and are relatively easy to understand.>>35527933>>35528008>>35528068TWYS is a pretty cancerous system when it goes against artist intent or previous context. It's effective only when there's an absence of anything else.>>35528159>>35528166>>35528200Exactly.>>35528247Yeah, it's pretty much just stray images that might've had an implication go through that didn't get removed after upload/new tags.
>>35526301>>35526585Philomena already supports SVG. SWF is doubtful (Adobe will stop supporting SWF later this year), better place for them is on ThePonyArchive instead. mkv also have basically no support in browsers.
>>35527672If you mean a changeling that can change gender at will, tag current gender. If you mean very masculine looking dude with a vagina, that's a "cuntboy". Very feminine looking and with a dick: "femboy" if dialogue refers as "he", and "dickgirl" if dialogue refers as "she" (usually boobs differentiate them, but with ferals there's no visual difference). If androgynous looking character with both: "herm", feminine: "futa", masculine: "male herm". Do NOT use "intersex" tag or whatever, it's too vague and have nothing to do with magical fantasy horses. Other boorus changed those tags to nonsense to be more PC, let's not repeat their mistakes.
>>35528361MKV is the universal slut video format, just a container that you can throw any codec in and each codec is its own liability.
>>35528410i dont care about intersex being an implied tag. the pc sanitized crap like gynomorphs e621 pulled though? keep that out
>>35528476I hate the fucking gynomorph tag because it includes both futa and cuntboys and THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS
>>35527762That's just stupid. You ARE aware that if image have multiple characters, tags would refer to any of the characters? So your example would filter out all m/f straight pics, instead of filtering futa. It's the exact same reason we have shipping tags, instead of searching "character1, character2, shipping" (that would show many undesirable results if you have more than two characters in the pic).
>>35528493learn to use filters then since your way is just as stupid in this situation
>>35528502In order to use filters, we need tags. If we use >>35527762 's system, we have no "futa" tag, only separate "female" and "dick" tags. Let me explain again why it's bad: if we have a pic with two futas fucking, and male looking at them, pic would have "male", "female", "cunt", "dick" tags. If we have a pic with male fucking female, pic would have "male", "female", "cunt", "dick" tags. Exact same tags as futa pic.Now, if you use sane system, first pic would have "futa", "male" tags, second pic would have "male", "female" tags. Now we can use filters.
Forgive my laziness, but I'm not going to read through all of this to find out if this has been asked before.What's wrong with just copying derpi's tagging style?
>>35528545That is literally what rainbooru does now
>>35528533that was me and it was a simple counterargument that wasn't even serious tho it still smashes your point because you did not understood the meaning behind it nor the "some other specific tag" partagain: more tags = better
>>35528545Absolutely nothing. Someone came in to concern troll about non-binary and the rest of the alphabet soup
>>35528545Nothing's wrong, it's fine. Though we need to restore tags that were deleted by mods over the years, like "HasbrOC", for example (refers to toy-exclusive characters that never appeared in the show, like Princess Skyla).
>>35527087rainbooru doesnt use much js
>>35528755There's not any js at the moment
>>35527838who is the red beam?
>>35528776>watching the show past [insert season]
>>35516216to be fair, that horse is clearly a nazi
>>35528776>tfhfag watching fim
>open rainbooru>set filter to nothing>front page entirely devoid of pornThere's hope yet
Is RainDev updating Rainbooru, as it it seems down.
>>35528943There is a memory leak issue associated with broken uploads. I have patched the issue but not pushed the patch yet as I am also taking apart the upload code to support webms and if I pushed it with this feature incomplete the whole site would break. For now, I just have to manually restart the site whenever the memory overloads.
>>35528898>front page entirely devoid of pornThat's because I'm dumping all of my SFW stuff first.
>>35528952Patch is pushed I sure hope nothing breaks
>>35528159>TWYSIs shit.e621 fully enforce that, and it lead to some impressive retardation.
Cant' we just stick to the same tagging system as Derpi?
>>35527801It's "featureless crotch" then
>>35527855You can't implement an infinite amount of tags in a finite amount of time using finite tag-adding parallelism (i.e. a finite amount of people or even scripts creating tags)
Is there anything wrong with Derpi's system? Does anyone have any actual complaints about how it tags shit?If there are actual complaints maybe post them so we can brainstorm how to address them. Because I personally don't have any particular issues, so right now the discussion sounds like it's trying to reinvent the wheel for absolutely no reason, which is also doubly stupid since derpi is going to be the primary import source so adopting a different system will just add a huge workload re-tagging everything (and make it basically not feasible to import all 2M images).
>>35529894dudedon't you know of the shitstorm
>>35529950What shitstorm? Has Derpi ever been involved in any shitstorms regarding tags?According to everything I've heard, Derpi is the best fucking booru in terms of both software/functionality but also tagging. Literaly its only problem is and has always been the staff team. So if I'm wrong and there have been tagging shitstorms, give me the quick rundown
>>35529973Derpi burns. Derpitards try and fail fantastically to falseflag here, based mods delete them. Unironic pony activism takes place. Pic related. Check the derpi death spiral thread, we've been burning through a thread a day for like four or five days now
>>35529973Derpi burns. Artists leave in droves. Admins tried and failed to slam down the evil nazees and only made it worse, and now they're trying to hide by removing themselves from the staff page. Derpitards try and fail fantastically to falseflag here, based mods delete them. Unironic pony activism takes place. Pic related. Check the derpi death spiral thread, we've been burning through a thread a day for like four or five days now wow I need my coffee
>>35529973>Derpi is the best fucking booru in terms of both software/functionality but also tagging. that's because no one has dared to offer any alternative that could add more competition so they wouldn't enjoy such a ridiculous monopoly.It was about freaking time to open up the market with its efficient fornat. What ruins Derpi is not the site itself but the staff that owns it. Everything matters for that service and the mods are 0/10 and the rules are awfully abysmal.
>>35529982>>35529989>>35529993Are you a schizo? I'm in the fucking derpi alternatives thread created in direct response to this. I even talked about importing stuff from derpi to replace it. I've been in all of the death spiral threads, and I can tell you with confidence NONE of it has anything to do with how Derpi tags genders.So my original question still stands: >>35529894 is there anything wrong with Derpi's tagging system?>>35530010>What ruins Derpi is not the site itself but the staff that owns it.I literally wrote that in the post you're replying to:>>35529973>Literaly its only problem is and has always been the staff team.Why does everyone have nonexisent reading comprehension? The discussion is about tagging benis and bagina. I'm saying I like how Derpi tags benis and bagina, and I'm asking if anyone has any concrete arguments not to just copy Derpi's tags and tagging conversions. This has literally nothing to do with the Derpi rules change shitstorm and their incompetent staff, except for the fact that the latter spawned these threads and therefore the reason we're discussing the former in the first place.
>>35530059Fuck off, byte
>>35530868Derpi has been at this for years, so I kinda assume they know what tags to use through the years.
>>35530928They do. Copy-pasting tags from Derpibooru is fine (unless their mods suddenly get new a spikeness of wokeness targeted at LBGT).There is just one Anon who somehow want the e621 system, and as with all furfags his opinion should be ignored and his body cremated.
>>35510142So can we upload webms into Rainbooru or not?
>>35530961Not yet but apparently soon.
I fucking love how /mlp/ is spearheading all of these projects at the head of pony as of late. First PPP, now this.
>>35530961Well according to the changelog, raindev is trying to add video support. Either way uploading is disabled right now.
>>35510142Gods speed anons, good luck fighting the good fight
www.rainbooru.org/port is down, please fix it so i can move my shit
>>35530961Webms are almost ready>>35531284That's disabled until I find the culprit of this memory error. Whenever I reboot the site RAM usage slowly increases until it runs out of memory and crashes. If you're interested you can visit /leakcheck to see a list of counts of all instantiated Ruby objects. I'm basically watching for objects which increase over time and trying to guess why they aren't being garbage collected
>>35531376Are you planning on open sourcing?
>>35531431Yes. I would do it now except I'm lazy and don't want to scrub through my code to find and censor all my API tokens. I'm also a bit nervous because it would be very bad if I missed one
>>35529982what was it? why is it deleted?
>>35531443Would a grep -r work?
>>35531613Not necessarily I'm guessing. Depends on if he hardcoded the tokens into the code or if he decided to use some sort of environment variable thing. My guess is that he hard coded them in multiple places.
>>35531604Why do you care?
>>35531604You cant post the same image multiple times in a thread, it's the same pic and text as the post directly below itAnon was too drunk to type
https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/regarding-our-stance-on-censorshipanother thread has been opened by one of the admins...
>>35531740Shouldn't this he in the derpi thread instead?
>>35531746yep, I have shared that link as well over there, I accidentally thought that I was replying in that thread. An error of mine.
>>35531740>we aw sowwy>comments in the original thread still being deleted for 'breaking rule 0'
>>35530948Assuming you're referring to >>35528084, I want to keep the Derpi tags. I think they work well. That is what I was arguing for. It seems to me that Derpi tags according to what's present in the image which is why I said that. I'm not familiar with e621 so don't know how they handle it.
>>35531376Does the RAM usage increase with uploading disabled?
>>35532227Yes, but slowly. And as it never got as high as it did with uploading enabled, that might be perfectly normal ram usage as users connect and are served
Yup, memory usage just spiked again and I dont know why.
all this drama and derpibooru is still pretty much the same. pics with aryanne and offensive jokes are still present as wellwhat the fuck are you guys on about exactly?
>>35532270I started uploading again. Maybe the memory usage isn't high enough to get the GC to kick in until uploads start happening?
>>35532270>>35532288Would it be some thing along these lines? http://www.be9.io/2015/09/21/memory-leak/
>>35532288It's weird though considering when you upload the site jumps from 200MB to 1gb of ram. Would you estimate many of the images you port are not even 1 mb so there's no fucking way the memory is getting filled up with temp files. You uploaded 10 files before this latest crash (site crashed again btw) which could spawn up 10 processing threads (probably less) and even it each thread creates a copy of the while site code (they dont) that would only be 400 mb. At least this confirms the leak is somewhere in the upload code
Since we're close to bump limit, here's a draft for the next OP. I've tried to update it to reflect the current situation.Title: Derpibooru Alternative Thread #9ITT, let's discuss the future of art preservation and boorus.The long version:After recent events, doubts have arose about the continuance of Derpibooru as the premiere image archival site for the fandom. Derpibooru recently went through a period of banning content they didn't agree with. This was brought on by accusations by journalists and twitter posters. Only after thousands of posts against the new policy and dozens of popular artists threatening to boycott the site were the changes reverted. While the offending policies have been removed, it is important for there to be competition in order to both ensure that Derpi is kept in check and that alternatives are available into the future.TLDR:There's other options.-Right now Rainbooru is a good alternative to Derpi. (www.rainbooru.org)-In the near future we can also look forward to TwiBooru, based on Philomena (from Twifag)-ZizzyDizzyMC is working on pony booru based on Philomena too.Specialized Boorus:-booru.foalcon.com (foalcon)-www.fluffybooru.com (fluffy ponies)-lyrabooru.org (plushophilia)-www.bronibooru.com (SFW, no shipping, no non-pony anthro, no translations)Latest Developments:-Improvements to Rainbooru, too many to list ^:) (www.rainbooru.org/changelog)-Twifag and Zizzy making progress with Philomena (Nothing public yet)-Derpi banning more art, situation deteriorating-People are looking for alternativesThis is NOT the Derpibooru drama general. Please keep posts relevant to booru development. (>>>/mlp/derpi)DiscussPrevious thread: >>35510142
>>35531740Fuck 'em. They've proven repeatedly that they can't be trusted. We shouldn't have to deal with this all the time.I really regret giving them shekels
and nothing of value was lost
>>35532354>One of the most fundamental rules of this booru is that users should be excellent towards each other.It's gonna happen again, especially with this line. They're gonna police the communities content again and claim it's not bias because it's majority rule.
>>35532354>They've proven repeatedly that they can't be trusted. We shouldn't have to deal with this all the time.which is why that we are going to need these boorus in the future for any possible turning point from these people.Don´t stop even if there is a ceasefire for now.
Ok I capped out the max number of image processing threads at 6, maybe that will conserve RAM. Also thanks to whoever is uploading all the Pear Butter. I love her so much. Dont know who that yellow guy in some of the photos is, though. Cousin, maybe? He's a dweeb.
>>35532520So can we run multiple dumps now. Cause i've been holding off my aj dump.
>>35532589I dont know if that was the source of the problem but there's only one way to test it. Might as well try uploading a shitton of files. No webms yet, I still havent got that licked, but while I wait to see the RAM statistics come in I'll be working on that
>>35532623started the nsfw dump, reduced my backoff time
>>35532698>half the files are broken>wow, it crashednever mind.
>>35532704Welp, back to drawing I guess.
Derpi has backed off on the rule changes. Why are you all still working on this?
>>35532737Competition and because it' fun.
>>35532737Because this isn't the first time derpy has done this, and it has gotten pretty tiresome.
>>35532743>>35532745answer my question as well while you're at it>>35532281
>>35532737competition and a necessary free market of boorus. Monopolies don´t tend to work out all that well after a certain period.
>>35532748There's a difference between drama and people being afraid to post at all because of shadow banning.
So people are trying to target Philomena with not complying with copyright laws.
>>35532737It's always good to have alternative in case anything like this happens again. It would be naive to trust solely in Derpi after this.
>>35532766And? Wouldn't derpi be slammed with the same allegations? It's just fear mongering.
>>35532778That' what they're going for but yeah. probably some fear mongering.
>>35532765okay but what exactly was banned? the way i understand it they removed some barely pony related flaming content
>>35532766Where is this?
>>35532786The users? I don't know what you don't understand this wasn't an over night thing, this has been going on for years now.
>>35532793are you sure it was legit users and not just trolls that got banned? because i usually see the opposite which is artists asking to be removed and putting a ban on their art
>>35532811Legit users. Some from ponychan and others from 4chan. Shadow banned via rule #0 no explanation, no reply. They wanted a platform but didn't because they butt heads with other popular artists.
>>35517826without them i don't think this will get much traction. the only notable artist form /mlp/ still on board are AnonTheAnon and pencils
>>35532789Twitter, search up derpibooru.
>>35532832well, the way you described it sounds like they did start something after all. and i know that /mlp/ loves drama so it's not out of the question that they said more than was necessary. sure, rule #0 is as bad as rule 6 here but i feel that the truth lies in between
>>35532856The truth is they're bias and flippant went comes to their own rules. It applies well for others but when it comes to them and their hypocrisy it's not the same.
So with artists deleting their stuff on Derpi, does that we can't post that stuff on rainbooru?
>>35532898No, it means we have to post it all on rain. The Derpi dnp is specifically for not posting on derpi.
>>35532876so basically mods on 4chan. but i don't see any mass migrations to 8kun because of it. you'll actually get insulted for using alternatives
>>35532925I know you just want to argue, but there's a difference between archiving and shit posting.
>>35532961no i just see /mlp/ going overly dramatic as every single time. and if you want archives, there are people like rome doing this already
>>35532981If /mlp/ is just being overly dramatic why you're being so adamant about alternatives not being made. You said it yourself this is just an every day thing, right?
>>35510142I don't suppose anyone has a means of downloading every image under a given tag, do they?
>>35533033Wait, hold on, wrong link.>https://github.com/Sibusten/derpibooru-downloaderThis one.
>>35533021because /mlp/s enthusiasm dies out just as quickly as it appears
>>35533060You reek of Faggotbooru. If you don't understand why we're still harping on this then you probably never will.
Rainbooru, I pledge myself to you. Derpi is salvageable. Its coming apart even more after taking three steps back and one forward. Everyone wants blood.I just want free fucking speech and art.
>>35533129the way i see it is that derpi made yet another minor fuckup and is already past it. meanwhile /mlp/ reacts with a bunch of threads about db downfall (one of them ready to turn into general) full of dramatic posts, complaints, mocking, the happening and basically everyone is ready to put Ron Paul in their name fieldsdb has been doing this shit on a regular basis then quickly reverting to normal in a matter of days and i'm surprised that some people still care or even bother noticingyou said that it's been going on for years (you also said that i'm against alternatives when i'm not. that wasn't even my point). in that case the alternatives should be up and running for years, not just because the bandwagon hit the roadoh and btw, notice that you already basically told me to fuck off and i believe that you keep this level of posting in the comment section on db making you fall under rule #0 (and rule 6 here for that matter. not that i'm some kind of rulefag) and reinforcing my suspicion that the truth does indeed lie in betweenanyway from what i've gathered on both sites it's yet another instance of pic relatedto all the people who want to make alternative sites: go ahead and make them but forgive me if i withhold my enthusiasm
>>35533331Check out the pile of anti-nazi DNPs going up now.Derpi is done and irredeemable.
>>35533343meh. mods will sweet talk them like aways. they have plenty of experience in that field by now
Many people on 8kun said /b/ will never die the board owner will keep abusing you and keep crawling back, your alt /b/ will never succeed and for years that was true but then one day they board owner went too far and just like that the alternatives actually took off. It can happened. I didn't believe until I saw it for myself but it can happen
>>35533034>https://github.com/Sibusten/derpibooru-downloaderBased anon, thanks. Already snagging a ton from the artists I suspect are going to flip their shit over this.
>>35533343From what I see most of these are tiny nobodies and the bigger names are just anthro artists.
>>35533331If you really didn't care, you wouldn't be in this thread trying to convince other people not to care with you, you'd just proceed as normal. But you're not, so you obviously do care regardless of what you say, that makes you a bigger faggot than any of us.
>>35533420i'll just point you to my original post>>35532281and add>reading comprehension
>>35533331You dropped these:. . . . . , , , , , , , ,
When will every artists/company/person in power realize that interacting and having discussion with your audience, whether left or right, always ends in disaster?Just do your job and shut up and stop trying to create parasocial relationships, they are cancer. The less people talk the better.
>>35533939>The less people talk the betterthat sure has worked here
>>35533962If the Derpi mods had shut up, not censored either blm or aryanne stuff from the start and just waited for people to get distracted by another weekly tragedy, they wouldn't be in this fucking mess.
>>35533331Derpi just fucked itself even harder.https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/an-announcement-from-derpibooru-s-staff
>>35532913Easy solution. Tag everything with mouthpiece. Problem solved.
>>35534625Yeah basically this.
It's okay to choose not to host nazi shit