What age did you grow out of Gundam and into Five Star Stories?
>>22131771>What age did you grow out of GundamAfter my first one
FSS is so bad. It's like Nagano doesn't understand what made L-Gaim good.
>>22131771>reading booksNo thanks
>>22131771I grew into L-Gaim actually.
>>22131829This. FSS has too many words per page. It's practically a novel
>>22132038If I wanted to read walls of text on a page, then I'd read a proper intellectual SF novel and not a manga. Nagano doesn't understand the "show" part of "show don't tell."
Did Lachesis fight for the commies or nazis?
>>22131771When I realized that snapkits were for children>>22131826>what made L-Gaim goodWhat?>>22131829>>22132038>>22132055I too would think something was a novel if all I read of it was a wiki page.
>>22131771I like both
>>22132143She's a good person so obviously the commies.
>>22132143>>22132511>Division NordlanticUh...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_SS_Volunteer_Panzergrenadier_Division_Nordland
>>22131771Whats this about? I’ve seen the artwork a lot. Anyone want to give me a qrd or should I just google it and check it out?
>>22132521It's a multi-protagonist anthology of loosely-tied stories that take place in the same universe that features some robots every once in a while. Also untranslated after volume 10.
>>22132525Thanks, also this sounds pretty neat.
>>22132529The movie is fun too but makes sense only after reading the first volume which it adapts.
>>22131771>Assuming all questions have a binary answer.Concerned_Lachesis.jpeg
How did /m/ react to the news in 1987?
Actually just started reading it, finished part 1 of v04 (american v09) a few days ago. Was pretty excited for it after L-Gaim, kinda hyped myself up a bit too much though in retrospect. Gorgeous artwork, great characters, and amazing attention to detail. On the other hand, it feels like he goes into that autistic headcanon super-story telling a bit too hard. Rather, I'm happy he has an outline for all the events he intends the story to have, but "As the planet is destroyed, the immortal god emperor of light is ejected from his mech entirely made of gold - however his android wife and the mech are thrown through time and space. They'll travel thousands of years before reuniting in the year 7776" sounds hella chuuni on paper. Similarly while some names are generically fantasy/sci-fi and are fine, ×bin (pronounced Crossbin) and that pseudo-Cleopatra with the sneeze name are eye-rolling.My biggest issue with it currently is it feels a bit too much like this guy >>22132055 said in the sense of too much tell, not enough show. I get the sense of this vast multi-generational pantheon of heroes and characters, all of them seeming interesting, but it feels a bit too brusque with depictions of them. Even if it was just meant to be buildup, the war with Hagooda felt too brief for me to care about Ulicul and Colus; there's a page later after the L-Gaim sneak peek that has Clotho looking back on them & others around that timeframe, but...we barely knew them. I have no emotional connection to them for it to work (picrel). I need more time with these people to enjoy them more. I want more content. I love what I've gotten, I just need more.Keep in mind I'm only just into Kastenpo with the attack on the village, so these "issues" may be fixed going forward, but even knowing he's ongoing...with only 17 volumes so far it's either going to continue to be too fast-paced, snopshot style for my taste, or he's going to die before the story goes anywhere.
>>22132984And to clarify, I'm 100% down for the chuuni shit. It's more just that it feels like he's jumping the gun with it . Once (if) I see it in action it'll be completely fine. I dig almost everything about TFSS, I just want some refinement. On that note, one (editor-related, not author) aspect that could be improved is a proper dramatis personae. We've got a lot of names and characters running around, and with how outlandish the names are at times something to help us keep them sorted in our heads would be vastly appreciated. I know the "starring in this chapter" thing at the start of each part does something similar, but only for new characters (and also, again, I'd very much appreciate if he'd tone down the "this is X, the dude who's yada yada, blada blada of the such and such empire [fine so far]. As you can see, his brash personality will lead to his demise this chapter after instigating a fight with Y [this is not fine, why do you need to spoil every arc by describing it before I see it, Nagano? Put this at the end of the arc, not before]"
>>22132984The English version was bundled random parts of the artbooks with all the extra bios and details which are all supplementary. So those extra events mentioned are basically like Gundam MSV and don't really matter to the actual events of the manga. Most of the shit on the timeline never happens in the manga and the only reason it's there is because Nagano transplated it over from the L-Gaim mook that all of FSS is based on.
>>22132513What did Nagano mean by this?
>>22132038>this>proceeds to complain about something that's distinctly a Tomino'ism mainstayLike groomer, like groomee turns out
I never knew L-gaim was connected to this.For the longest time, I had no idea what this was, I only know it because Newtype magazine used to (still does?) contain pages of the manga of this.
>>22132498Is the Bangdoll on the left the Volks plastic kit?
>>22132680I tried to find this on Youtube but no luck. Anyone know if it is online to watch somewhere?
>>22132521You should fuck off.
>>22131771Gothicmade isn't real
>>22135056Workshop Cast resin. You can tell because it actually has a good sculpt.
It is very curious how every mecha designer, artist, or talented person in the anime industry thinks FSS is a masterpiece. But consoomer Gundumb manchildren here hate it.
>>22133694That he wanted people to write "BASED" in the future
>>22131771about a year ago>>22132498l-gaim IS good though. tomino and nagano make an excellent team and complement each other greatly. that's what happens when you get two genius friends working together
>>22137889it's not really that weird, they just haven't developed taste yet. gundam as a franchise, including the mecha designs (apart from the brief experimental period they had with zeta/zz), is designed to have mass appeal and be accessible to everyone. it works as a great entryway into the 'genre'. fss has great elaborate designs, but they aren't really mass appeal and 'accessible' so while they appeal to seasoned mecha fans and people in the industry they can be a bit offputting to people new to mecha stuff.i followed a similar trajectory myself, gundam basically got me into mecha then over time i started liking more elaborate and 'weird' designs. when i was newer to mecha i really didn't like fss designs, then i started seeing how good mortarheadds actually were but didn't get gtms, and now i love gtms as well and think a lot of gundam designs except the more obscure zeta era and late uc designs are kind of boring (inlcuding some i used to love)basically, you need a high iq to understand fss and pickle rick
>>22137889>every mecha designer, artist, or talented person in the anime industry thinks FSS is a masterpiece>everyYou went to every one of these people and asked them? Doubt it.It's always a red flag for bullshit when people use terms like "every" when speaking for other peoples opinions.
>>22139026enough to notice that is it a mana source for a fair few artists. if you ever go to Japan youll also see FSS stuff in all the hardcore hobby shops and otaku caves. I havent investigated FSS myself, but as an outsider I know its something Ill need to look into eventually.
>>22137927We need another L-Gaim installment.
>>22131771It is depressing that the board is more often relying on bait threads. This board is slow you don't need to do this to have a 5 star thread
>>22137927FSS designs are so fucking beautiful
>>22135130English subs WHEN
>>22138949>fss has great elaborate designs, but they aren't really mass appeal and 'accessible' so while they appeal to seasoned mecha fans and people in the industry they can be a bit offputting to people new to mecha stuffOnly the GTMs. Everyone I've shown the classic MH designs to was blown away, even if they don't care for mecha (or even knew what it was) they were very impressed with them as statues or whatever they thought it was
Nagano is very quiet, but very powerful
>>22143876Wouldn't the recoil alone blow it on its ass?
>>22145572The exhaust apparently helps counteract the recoil to an extent, but it still does get launched a few meters.
>>22132984where can you find scans of the manga?
>>22145912https://nyaa.si/view/138295
>>22131771>>22132984>>22132525>>22132055I love how FSS is an anthology, it makes the work feel so much more epic and mythological. I realized it's not really a story, so you really shouldn't read it like one. It's more like a fictional historical account, or like a Bible for a religion that doesn't exist.>>22134223L-Gaim was basically like the 1.0 version of FSS, I don't think they're explicitly connected, but it is hinted that a version of L-Gaim's story happens in FSS' universe.
dark horse needs to reliscense the manga and republish it in those big volumes like berserk
>>22145975the art books too. both fss and gothicmade
Is there an up to date gallery with all the GTM designs so far?
>>22145912more up-to-date/HQ scans are here by the man himself: https://archiveofsins.com/t/thread/1149169/#q1149227 ; I haven't updated the museum with it yet since I'm dead.>>22145930I've since progressed to mid-v07 (Auge-Apache just happened) and Kastenpo onwards has been much more my speed and felt more like a traditional story. Thus far I certainly wouldn't describe it as a "multi-protagonist anthology of loosely-tied stories that take place in the same universe" as the one anon did; the stories are much more tightly connected than that implies, and it's more ensemble with each arc having specific MCs from said cast. Calling it an anthology gives off the wrong impression - even as time-skippy & brief as it felt in the first few I still wouldn't have described it like that.I'd probably describe the first few volumes as Nagano figuring out his stride. Which is fine, I just wish it hadn't been stuff as pivotal narratively as Clotho & Colus (which honestly is the only problem in the first three; the Debut arc is fine, and the flashforward sneakpeek to Daba/L-Gaim is fine too as a teaser, the Hagooda arc just needed to be lengthier I think). I'd probably say the biggest weakness it has right now is still cast presence: the coup attempt was cool, but every character involved, sans 2 or 3, was introduced IN the arc, which takes away a lot of weight from the attempt. "WOAH, these two are fetishistic psychos who are only barely on a leash and are now rampaging because master's gone" would've been much cooler if we'd already had pagetime with them earlier to build up to the betrayal. Ting vs. Aisha was cooler precisely because of that.>>22133007Now that you point it out, I see what you're saying. What's also strange is my JPN scans also have most of that content; I'm wondering if they're reissues or just muxes.>timeline never happens in the mangaSorta my point. I dig he has it laid out, but I want to SEE it, not have cliff notes. Otherwise feels autistic.
>>22146063>more up-to-date/HQ scansthx anon
>>22131771i stopped reading it cuz i couldnt keep track of all the namesi'd go back to it but i'd need a wiki to refer to to remember who everyone is and where in the timeline things are happening
>>22146063> these two are fetishistic psychos who are only barely on a leash and are now rampaging because master's goneDaily reminder that Spark decided she wanted Decor's baby.
>>22146063>I haven't updated the museum with it yet since I'm dead.Well no worries, because the torrent appears to be dead as well.
>>22146146Still really dismayed that Archive-Scans' blogpost got taken down somehow. Their Amazon Drive account appears to be up, though; doesn't have a torrent for the new scans unfortunately.
>>22131771Post the image of Nagano wearing Sailor Moon cosplay. This kills the 5 star fag.
>>22146146>>22146154wait there's this https://twitter.com/shininghubee/status/1690792865314623488https://archive.org/details/fivestarstroriesnewscans
>>22146194I knew I was hallucinating could've sworn someone posted high res RAWs not too long ago; and there they are
>>22146194also found what looks to be an working torrent of Archive-Scans' new scans of the incomplete US release https://btdig.com/696b9e2ed3e5cb0173f833c3f3394988c64581c7/the-five-star-stories
>>22138949
Why is the official english translation so bad? I think reading the original Japanese with an AI translation would genuinely be a better experience.
>>22131771I always liked Five Star Stories but it is more of an artifice than a product to me. I'm not gonna stumble over myself explaining why, but the movie was good... although I can't beyond there being Headliners, AFs, and then everyone else is basically beyond plebian.
>>22146862Early-mid 2000s was a different time; halfassed translations and dubbing was pretty common on Japanese IPs back then. Toyspress was no different. I just hope a scanlation group will pick up it soon, given the new RAWs that dropped last month.
>>22145975I don't buy many manga, but I would snatch these up in an instant. I already have all the Jap volumes except the newest
>>22146862Nagano personally supervised the English translation, everything you see is how he wanted it, including the weird punctuation and formatting
>>22147577i think hes just covering for hiring the cheapest non-native speaker of english he could find lmao. i worked in ENG to JPN translation, and the customer would always have some bullshit like"it needs more paragraphs" and have each sentence be its own paragraph or some other nonsense
>>22132498Bitch, I've been reading FSS since Mangatraders was still in its early days. I've had the same complaints for years.
>>22145714Largest barrel I've seen in manga. Is a Buster Launcher a Casaba Howitzer or a railgun?
>>22146862the english translation being garbage and half of it only being available in japanese in the first place is what pushed me to start actually learning japanese after a decade of "yeah i want to learn it, at some point". yeah it's gonna take a couple of years to get to a point where i can read it but at the rate things are going it still won't be translated by then anyway
>>22145109>Everyone I've shown the classic MH designs to was blown awayYou haven't been here for very long.
>>22148158>2014Jesus, it's been that long? I was in that thread, I think I called him a faggot.
What's objectively the most beautiful MH?What's the ugliest?
>>22148158that GM is covered in poo poo :(>>22148483i'm split between the Bang Doll and the KOG for the most beautiful MH. the Bang Doll looks better but the KOG's entire existence is so romantic that i cant help but love it more... as for the UGLIEST? probably the Zakker or the A-Toll Scritti, both very orange and very poorly named. i especially dislike the Scritti's lack of heels, a good set of heels is as important as the skirt and shoulder plates. no hells on a MH is like no nipples on a woman.
Is there a download for Vol 17 anywhere? I've tried the archive here >>22146194 but its just Vol 16 labeled as 17.
How powerful are MHs actually supposed to be? I've started reading the manga recently and it doesn't really do the best job of conveying things like speed during action scenes so far.
>>22149200I downloaded from there and seems like vol 16 and 17 folders got swapped. They're both there just with each other's numbers.
>>22148483beautiful: siren rugly: empress flame
>>22148483Bang DollMighty series
>>22149267all MHs use ezlaser engines, which all have the same output of around 1 and a half trillion horsepower, MH power can be raised by adding more ezlaser engines (LED mirage has one in each calf)in terms of destructive power, im pretty sure that the jagd mirage can blow up half a planet in one shot, and the KOG can blow up a quarter of a planet, though i may be wrong about that.as for speed, they can likely travel at high speeds with flight units, though they're more focused on endurance and long-term deployments as a MH can run for 60+ hours (as shown in the prologue). some MHs, however, are shown to be capable of teleportation (rainbow boowrays during the hagooda conflict)
>Page 10
>>22148483Arcana SirenBlue Knight
>>22152355based
>>22148483>What's the ugliest?There aren't any.
