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Godzilla Minus One Edition
Previous >>22110557
Monarch:Legacy of Monsters teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec27RCzb6qI [Open]
Godzilla Minus One trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7DqccP1Q_4 [Open]
Gamera: Rebirth now on Netflix
https://www.netflix.com/title/81087387
Godzilla: Singular Point Season 2 Hinted
https://twitter.com/EnJoeToh/status/1683998068855963651
Cloverfield Sequel Slusho site (hasn't updated since earlier this year but keep an eye on it)
https://slusho.com/
Kaiju No. 8 second trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ljNZsBOxE [Open]
Hoshi35 trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9f51_cgXxo [Open]
Bullbuster trailer
https://youtu.be/r2lw0KHgAok?si=oFMQ206Pq11UfZkD [Open]
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Anybody found the presumed GxK leaks from the last test screening?
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>>22123193
I only heard about some information that supposedly explains Godzilla's role in the universe. Whatever that means. I don't know if it's something about his motivation or maybe his species but it sounds kinda threatning. I immediately thought that they may be thinking about making him look even worse than in GVK but it's probably just my worries speaking. The supposed buddy cop being secretely just a Kong movie and Godzilla being treated as a burden to the series.
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>>22123137
>1 week
>I am forgotten
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>>22123217
Post them anyway, I'm really intrigued. And I find doubtful they'd sideline Godzilla in this movie now that he and Kong are on the same side from the start
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>>22123246
There's nothing else and I hope it's all not as bad as I think because I still don't fully trust them with Godzilla.
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>>22123193
I heard Godzilla has even less screen time in GxK than in GvK
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>>22123449
I'd be okay with him having less screen time if it was devoted to literally any monster but Kong. Fucking Gamera would be better
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>>22123193
Shimu and Doug are both related to Godzilla.
>Doug being the natural form of a "Godzilla".
>Shimu is the first Titan and first "Godzilla", it's offspring continued the Godzilla line, but Shimu continued to evolve until his current form.
>A meteor containing an unknown element crashed into the Earth millions of years ago, which changed the Hollow Earth and created the Titans, first being Shimu, the Godzilla who ate a star.
>The crystal on Skar King's whip used to command Shimu admits a primordial form of Hollow Earth energy. Shimu can only use this type of energy to survive and willingly takes commands from Skar King in order to get it.
>Godzilla's design changes from each movie are explained as him being mutated but modern nuclear radiation, but once exposed to the primordial Hollow Earth energy in Shimu's lair, he starts to "Evolve" back into a more natural form.
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>>22123686
>Godzilla's evolved form is a beefier G14 design with larger hands, resized head(No more pin head) and different spines and spikes on body.
>Skar King is the equivalent to Shimu, but for Kong. He's super old and tactical, no powers other than just his intelligence, speed, reach(Longer arms) and his whip weapon.
>Skar King also commands a group of surviving Kongs including a young adolescent Kong named Suko, whom rejects Skar King for Kong.
>Kong gets a robotic brace for his arm after suffering severe nerve damage and frost bite during his mauling by Shimu. >Mothra replaced a new generic bird titan, her wings are more bird like and she resembles a phoenix including fire/heat powers. >Shimu breaks free from Skar King's command and begins to start another Ice Age by blacking out the sky with a black hole caused by a storm. >Kong rematches Skar King, Godzilla and Mothra take on Shimu.
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>>22123449
I doubt it
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>>22123706
Will then it would be ok to ask what Wingard has against Godzilla? The only valid excuse that Kong only had one solo film no longer applies.
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>>22123721
I said I doubt it, I’m taking all leaks with a grain of salt
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>>22123721
He doesn't. He kicked Kong's ass and that is what matters
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>>22123688
>>22123686
So Shimu really is just Barugon but shittier.
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>>22123721
Nothing? Godzilla fucked Kong up to the point he had to have his heart restarted.
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>>22123899
The only thing that they storta gave him even if they undermined it later but I hope he's able to handle himself again enemies stronger than Mechagodzilla so there's no room for doubt.
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>>22123686
>>22123688
Fake, test screenings leaks from last thread already mentioned use of Millennium SFX like the downpitched roar
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>>22123988
Do you have any other leaks from the recent test screening?
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>>22124024
Prior to that there was a leaker giving composites of some of the new stuff, according to him Godzilla's new design bears resemblance to Miregoji and the Spiral Ray is used in the final battle
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>>22124077
And that toy leak that made people scared because Godzilla's silhouette had no neck and a small, falt head apparently it's a toy of a regular Godzilla we've seen before.
But I hope only Godzilla's proportions get adjusted to make him look better and the power up (or mutation) works just as that and isn't permanent. Like Burning mode.
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>>22124091
The toy sounds more like a Godzillasaurus than a full Goji
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Did the leaker say anything about Shimo?
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>>22124093
The descriptions he gave made it sound like it resembled Krystalak from Unleashed
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>>22123245
I liked it.
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>>22124077
Did the leaker say anything about Shimo?
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>>22124104
See >>22124099
instead of pretending there was a blank post there
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Astro-Shimu-Zilla receives more fanart.
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>>22123137
Why is this #12? There have been way more than 12.
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>>22124380
It’s rebooted after the last generals got bad and lack of content
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>>22124380
gamerautist took ahold of it and pretends like he is the king of kaiju threads
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>>22124343
Say what it is.
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>>22124441
I mean looks like something scalies lust after desu.
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>>22124443
I've been saying this for several threads now
>Quadrupedal
>Ice powers to the point where it changes the weather
>Noticeable back spikes
Who does that sound like?
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>>22115202
Fuck that's deep.
An lone warrior against a seemingly endless gauntlet of monstrosity
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Some American actor named Josh Brolin is said to appear in Godzilla Minus One as the main American Douglas MacArthur
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>>22124835
Huh. Never thought they'd go for an American celeb
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>>22124835
I'm pretty sure they would have rolled that out for promotion by now, especially if they're hoping to get some traction in the west. Would be pleasantly surprised if he showed up, though
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>>22124863
Its a surprise obviously
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>>22124343
>White Anguirus
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>>22123245
If they go forward with a S2 or even beyond, here is what I’d like for the monster portrayals
>Barugon wants dem crystals and they’re in the phones. Can manipulate light like a prism to do all kinds of crazy shit like creating illusions, copying itself, and so on. Can also use freezing breath that’s so potent it causes weather to change.
>Zedus is acidic and has his tongue, but what’s more important is that he’s built like a brick shithouse even compared to Gamera. Really just a test of Gamera’s melee skills
>Legion is literally the same as the Heisei era but with an alternate design and more mobility
>Iris is a collection of souls. Specifically those of the children that Gamera actually failed to save. Drops the scalpel at least initially but much more focus is given to it’s copying abilities, with it being able to assimilate a ton of powers into its arsenal.
And there’s more.
>Morphos is basically the T-1000 + The Thing in that it can mimic the appearance of something. It can also mimic powers although not to the extent Iris can.
>Wyvern or W is a big snake with two heads and wings that can adjust the temperature to create weather phenomena and shit
>Nezura is a gargantuan swarm of elephant sized rats. So many in fact that it can straight up drown Gamera in the swarm.
>Harinezura is the big shot commanding the Nezuras. It’s got poison and can burrow really really fast
>Geboras is an ever growing murderous plant that’s more akin to an algae bloom on roids. It overwhelms entire fleets of ships and due to its underwater dwelling it can’t be burned away.
>The Phoenix is exactly what it sounds like.
>The Bio mecha are a huge fleet of biomechanical mechs and spaceships that constantly try to bumrush Gamera and kill him so they can steal what he’s protecting.
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>>22124991
Now, what is he protecting? Kaiju children of course. They’re a small group but are around as intelligent as Gamera.
>Monga is like a flying otter with the ability to create and manipulate clouds, along with a club tail. Kind of a stoic
>Two Garasharps. One male, one female, who can spew poisonous mist and have drill tips. One is seemingly confident and mocking while the other is meek and timid
>Marukobukarappa is a crab-like monster who’s only really special power is that he can make sonic chirps and has a weird muscle structure. Now, what he actually does is punch shit. A lot. He can straight up King Kong Gun with his weird forearm muscles, duck and weave while he lands potshots, and is generally like a boxer. Is quite aggressively defensive of his found family.
Gamera wants to protect them from those who would seek to exploit them for evil purposes while they grow up.
Which leads me to the final monster: An original one who’s stronger than any previously seen. And it absolutely wrecks Gamera in a ton of ways, completely maiming him seemingly beyond aid. Which leads to a once in a lifetime miracle:
Somebody coming to his aid. And yes he’s like he is in Kanon
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YAMAZAKI WAS CAUGHT MAKING THE SECOND KAIJU FOR MINUS ONE
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>>22125003
Speaking of second seasons
To any Anons that actually liked the show or even those critical of it
How would you do SP2? Not sure if that discussion has already sailed but i dont recall ever seeing any ideas pitched around or what could be improved.
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>>22125039
fr?
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>>22125055
Focus more on comfy tinkering with a robot to fight monsters rather than math
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>>22125063
but jet jaguar vanished anon?
i feel like they could do something with that whole other universe stuff they alluded to in the show but not sure what.
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>>22125061
Can't deny the existence of Monster A and B now
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>>22125073
>trying to pass off an unrelated monster VFX as monster B despite not even fitting the style
shut the fuck up fraud
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>>22125075
Its the same monster. Monster B is Godzilla, just because its different colors doesn't mean its not the same monster dumbass
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>>22125078
>>22125039
>>22125073
>tries to pass off Asylum level slop CGI cartoony shit as the actually great looking minus one stuff AND as godzilla
Have you considered hanging yourself from your nose with that tall of a lie you are spinning?
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>>22125068
They have Mechagodzilla now, let's tinker with and troubleshoot him to fight more monsters.
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>>22125115
>thinking Robogodzilla (yes its oficially called that) isn't going to be a villain despite the ominious music and crazed look Ashihara gives it.
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>>22125121
Aight, bring in something else then. Mogera?
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>>22125039
Nice hoax, but this is from a video of Takashi making a CG kaiju posted on Kaiju number 14's x (he is the guy D Man 1954 talks about on Youtube)

https://twitter.com/14_kaiju/status/1703264353171153321
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This is honestly the perfect Gamera design. Can you imagine him doing the shit he does in Rebirth while looking like this?
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>>22125123
Pelops is still around and his little cube robot had Zone Fighters antenae on it so bring in Zone Fighter as a sucessor mech to Jet Jaguar
Maybe trough some dimensional BS JJ returns and repaired itself and teams up with it
Or even bring in GUNHED as a Toho deep cut somehow.
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Godzilla - I = Godzlla
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>>22125124
>>22125126
Me like
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>>22125121
>Starts out as a villain, but JJPP makes RoboG wake up to justice to battle Ultima and the monsters.
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>>22125124
Ok nice.
Btw Kaiju 14 knows some interesting stuff and we talked a couple times but in a cringe way he tries to claim right to world events and cries to Kaiju News Outles and D-Man is an egotistical piece of shit who at one convention dogpilled on another fan (he had a mic and that other guy didn't) because of a different opinion about something that most Godzilla authors agree with anyway. It was my personal satisfaction that once I made sure everyone knew I ignored him and he definitely noticed.
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What is it about Mothra replacing some other monster? Does it mean like she wasn't supposed to be in the film but during production they decided to CGI her in anyway replacing someone else? I hope she was at least given some extra scenes interacting with Godzilla or something because Mothra isn't just a generic titan in that universe.
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>>22124465
I know you want us all to say Barugon but that design is literally just Anguirus
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>>22125765
>>22123896
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>>22125730
>movie comes out
>"GUYS MOTHRA'S FINALLY IN THE FILM
>she's in a few scenes and Godzilla barely acknowledges her, acts like she's one of the regular titans
>she's in the background somewhere for all the important scenes
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>>22125055
Focus on the nature of the Singular Point Being and the elaborate math behind it + giant monsters fucking shit up.
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>The film is as wacky as a Showa Godzilla film, and heavy on the sci- fi. Very much entertaining. You'll get a kaiju fight every 20 min and half of those fights are in daytime
>Jia is the key to awakening Mothra
>Kong had the most work done, but it was enough to see a clear design of each new titan, the final battle needed the most work.
>Kong's right arm gets frostbite, so Monarch gives him an exoskeleton which heals his arm but also makes him stronger. Think of it like the power glove but construction yellow.
>Godzilla envolved form is even more scaly, dorsal plates bright glowing red and bend downward similar to leaked photos, his cheeks resemble the minus one design, beam is red but at one point it turn bright purple (beam was unfinished vfx)
>Scar King is very agile with his spinal cord whip, Kong is clearly shown as stronger but Scar has his ape goonies and Shimo. At the end of his bone whip is a crystal shard which he uses to control Shimo. If you've watch Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Scar acts like Koba.
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>>22126762
Yeah I'm sure Mothra needs help to get out of the cocoon for her 1,586th reincarnation.
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>>22126762
New GxK leaks
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>>22126774
Which do not match up with older ones since these "leakers" change the details every time
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>>22123245
They should have trimmed the Kids out of the show almost entirely. Gamera is always at his best without cutting away to children during fights. Guiron wins the award for best re-imaging
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>>22127096
It was going for more of a Showa era vibe though, with a few little nods to Heisei Gamera for sure. Hell, setting it in the last year of the Showa era was very intentional. Gotta have some Kennys in classic Gamera. He was a friend to all children after all.
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>>22127096
I'd honestly love this series just as much if it was literally just a series of 20 minute Kaiju fights
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>>22126082
She shouldn’t have been in the movie.
In general, KOTM feels like a coherent concept drowned in shoving a million other things into it. Mothra, the Oxygen Destroyer, the upgrade, even Ghidorah don’t feel nearly as impactful as they should.
The way I’d rate them would be
>2014: 2/5
>KOTM: 2/5
>Kong SI: 4/5
>GvK: 3.5/5
>Kong Netflix Cartoon: 0.5/5
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>>22127817
It all just feels like a bunch of pointless self-jerking
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>>22127817
The fan edit at least decent
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>>22125730
It means we gotta spice up the "leaks", so people would keep paying attention.
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I’m working on something and want some input.
You remember Yongary? I thought to myself “Is it physically possible to give this guy the Heisei Trilogy treatment?”
As in making it good and more unique, with its own, much more concrete niche in the genre? I had an idea and I’d like to share it here
The general concept was to bring the sole notable, somewhat unique traits he has to the forefront.
>He is explicitly a dinosaur forcibly bought to the modern age
>He actually makes efforts to dodge the military’s attacks rather than tank them head on even though they cause minimal to no damage
>He dances also
That’s all I know. I need to find all the genuinely notable traits he has in order to piece together a truly memorable character.
My personal idea was to have him be an animalistic creature instead of an incredibly sapient one. Intelligent for an animal, but still an animal. He runs when he’s losing or against a significantly intimidating foe, he prefers to spend his time eating plants and wandering, doesn’t actively seek conflict, and so on. Yeah, I forgot to mention that I decided to make him an herbivore.
Anyways, the idea is that this 65 foot dinosaur was going to be constantly forced into conflict with a ton of adversaries of varying origins and intelligence, and he is given no choice but to fight back despite his animalistic disposition
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If Minus One Godzilla has four fingers as shown by publicity and on-land scenes in the trailer, how come he has three fingers in the ocean scene? Does he evolve or is it something else?...
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>>22127817
>She shouldn’t have been in the movie.
It's funny that you're batching about them adding in more stuff from the franchise, when the biggest complaint about 2014 was that there WASN'T enough monster action or even enough monsters for that matter.

Realistically, I'd ask what you genuinely want out of this franchise, but I know you have no fucking clue what you want for yourself so it's pointless to even try. Oh, and none of those concepts except maybe the Oxygen Destroyer have felt impactful in decades - and that's only because the OD hasn't been used or referenced in anything for longer than this board has existed, other than the novelization for Singular Point, which came out well after KOTM. Ghidorah himself is almost a guaranteed appearance in Godzilla media, to the point him NOT showing up is more surprising than the alternative.
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>>22128201
He also has very human looking eyes for a radioactive lizard
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God Blunova is a dishonest, smarmy cunt.
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>>22128201
I think I see another finger on the right but if they actually do break one of their own rules and actually go for the two Godzilla’s as homage to the Showa timeline I’d be incredibly impressed
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>>22128823
then when they're done, they're "minus one"
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>>22128841
>>22128823
Yeah just ignore that Minus has human eyes
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>>22128342
>It's funny that you're batching about them adding in more stuff from the franchise, when the biggest complaint about 2014 was that there WASN'T enough monster action or even enough monsters for that matter.
That’s just you not comprehending the complaint.
Constantly building up to action we don’t get to watch and overstuffing a movie to the point where there’s no impact are opposite sides of the pendulum. Nobody was going “Where’s *insert popular monster* with 2014, it was the fact that there was never a proper payoff. KOTM in the other hand didn’t just focus on a single concept and instead shoved so much in that none of it had weight.

>Realistically, I'd ask what you genuinely want out of this franchise, but I know you have no fucking clue what you want for yourself so it's pointless to even try.
If that were the case, why would I favorably rate two of the four movies? I liked Skull Island and GvK because they knew what they were, delivered on what they promised, and never felt dragged out.

You’re the one “batching” any time someone doesn’t blindly praise the things you like.
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>>22128018
What fan edit?
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I'm not surprised at how good of a fighter Gamera was in Rebirth because if you've read the any of the manga with him you'll realize it's completely accurate
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>>22128858
> I liked Skull Island and GvK
>GvK: 3.5/5
A 3.5/5 is not a good rating. I'd call you biased for the Kong stuff if it weren't for the Netflix show rightfully getting shit on, but even actual Kong fans didn't look at that favorably.

What you're complaining about regarding KOTM is not a valid criticism unless you're also the type of person who hated Final Wars or any piece of Godzilla media with more than 2 monsters in it.
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>>22129605
There aren't a lot of speople who are just simply Kong fans but the one of the few I know really likes the anime. And I was with the anime for some time, and the hawk is still 10/10 but then it got really sappy with Kong (again) I'm really starting to get really tired of MV Kong and I know GxK won't help me with that fatigue. They're really trying too hard. And then that non-ending. No continuation is what it deserves.
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Kaiju Shitposting is stalking me I swear. Hey, dipshit. At least bend the knee and apologize for implying that Ishiro Honda was a war criminal just because he wasn't executed for rebelling against his superiors during the war.
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Another day some tried to start shit by virtue signalling about how Monsterverse is so insensitive about nuclear themes because of some made up reasons but people didn't take the bait. Honestly the only reason for shit opinions like this isn't because MV did something wrong (because they didn't) but because it makes for a great talking point. Americans nuked Japan therefore their Godzillas will be different because of it. Except it's bullshit.
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>>22129675
>>22129689
No one asked
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>>22129715
But you rang.
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>>22129735
Nobody brought it up but you
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>>22129689
Honestly, MV Godzilla is not some all-knowing benevolent god. He's more akin to the Old Testament God
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>>22129900
He's an individual. A war veteran who carries unthinkable amount of responsibility and really can't do everything alone but he tries.
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>>22129911
Even though in all honesty he causes a ton of bad shit
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>>22130014
Well he saved the world probably countless times but you don't do that without making some enemies. Can't please everybody.
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What’s with all the forced speculation and fake leaks lately? This general fucking sucks now. All of you type like ESL too all of a sudden. You guys stupid or something?
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>>22130086
Beats me, their brains the size of a marble
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>>22130086
What a weird new obsession.
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>>22130104
What obsession?
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>>22127817
Don’t forget the awful CGI and being too dark to see literally anything
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>>22130086
This. It’s getting annoying. I don’t think I’ll be joining the next thread. Later, faggots.
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>>22129605
>A 3.5/5 is not a good rating.
You do understand that 3.5 is above average, right? Since you’re too stupid to understand that, yes, I enjoyed GvK a lot. It was fun.
>I'd call you biased for the Kong stuff if it weren't for the Netflix show rightfully getting shit on, but even actual Kong fans didn't look at that favorably.
Then you’d just be dumb as fuck and trying to find reasons why someone has a different opinion than you. I prefer Godzilla, that doesn’t mean his first two movies were good.
>What you're complaining about regarding KOTM is not a valid criticism unless you're also the type of person who hated Final Wars or any piece of Godzilla media with more than 2 monsters in it.
Just saying “it’s not valid” doesn’t magically mean that it isn’t valid. The humor was extremely off putting, too many things like the Oxygen Destroyer, the power up, and Mothra felt inorganic and shoved in, the fights were honestly not that good, and the entire film felt rushed. It had the makings of a better movie, and I think GvK balanced having a lot of elements better.
Go cry harder that someone doesn’t like the same movie as you.
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>Shows up without warning by exploding out of the ground
>Immediately obliterates entire platoon
>Eats Zigra
>Proceeds to burrow under the ocean floor because he can
>Gives Gamera what is easily the hardest fight in the series
Why was he literally the best one
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>>22129675
>bringing twitter drama here
Kill yourself
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>>22130152
Oh newfag.
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>>22130154
Isn't it past your bedtime, little boy?
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>>22130162
And so a new bumpfaggot was born. We'll get past the limit in no time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpCQEmmAyTY
Yes
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>>22130195
The day is saved again.
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Didn't Shusuke Kaneko himself say that Gamera would beat Godzilla in a GMK interview?
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>>22130260
No, he said the opposite because Godzilla to him was unbeatable no matter what which is shown in GMK where he wins against all monsters and is shown as alive at the end of the movie.
He said Godzilla was closer to his heart too. Of course what he really meant was his interpretation of Godzilla because Kaneko said a lot of dumb shit in various interviews.
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>>22130134
Guiron is basically a giant knife/sword. You can do a lot of fun scenes in a fight with that. I was actually impressed with the use of his Shuriken as I thought they'd leave them out.
Also Guiron is the easily best design out of the Showa series villain Kaiju.
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>>22130276
Ironic considering Gamera has never truly lost against another monster while Godzilla has.
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>>22130418
They could've done more interesting things with the others but didn't. Jiger, Viras, and S-Gyaos are the ones I hated the most just because they really don't get a chance to show their power
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>>22130134
Seems pretty accurate to Showa Guiron. I don’t think anyone was harder to deal with in Showa than him, except maybe Jiger.
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>Monarch legacy of monsters is trending in 53rd in TV with just a trailer and two months before release
>Rebirth is in 437th in TV just after the entire series was released
Lol mogged
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What happened that made Gamera fall in the water in vs Guiron anyways, was there anything planned or was it a cut because they couldn’t figure out what to do?
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>>22130626
>He doesn't know what brand recognition is
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>>22128121
Aight I figured it out.
ADAPT THE CHICKEN COMMERCIALS INTO MONSTER FIGHTS WITH A LAND BEFORE TIME STYLE STORY.
GET ME THAT LORE
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>>22130609
I'd say that Gyaos and Jiger were his hardest fights
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>>22130716
Guiron mangled Gamera way more than Gyaos did, not to mention Guiron was killing Gyaos for sport.
Jiger you could argue, mainly for the baby injection. Otherwise I still think Guiron gave Gamera a harder time.
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Here's a better question:
If they do a S2, how the fuck are they gonna up the ante from Gamera pissing on the moon?
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>>22130815
Gamera versus the martians. Duh.
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>>22130852
Unless Gamera somehow nukes an entire planet (And doesn’t die)
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>>22130125
> humor was extremely off putting, too many things like the Oxygen Destroyer, the power up, and Mothra felt inorganic and shoved in
I have no idea how you consider them "inorganic" given even the Showa and Heisei films handwaved how those things came about. But given you're the usual retard batching about KOTM in these threads, I'm not entirely convinced you're sentient enough to realize that. Assuming you've even watched the Shwoa era films.
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>>22130086
This general is mostly full of baiting retards and shitposters.
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>>22130861
Gamera won’t ever stop dying
As a franchise and as a characteeb
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>>22130872
>unironically defending kotm
Do you like watching black screens or somethin?
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>>22130937
Are you one of the two retards who were seething about 2014 Godzilla last thread?
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>>22130872
>I have no idea how you consider them "inorganic"
I can explain it then.
The Oxygen Destroyer is just a random weapon. It has no real sense of context to it, it’s just a weapon that just so happens to be ready but never used again. They took an extremely crucial aspect of Gojira and make it a super generic weapon that meant nothing. Furthermore, having some random weapon damage Godzilla really takes away from Ghidorah’s menace. It never really felt like he got the upper hand until the very end of the final fight. Him being beat to the punch by a random “MEMBER THIS THING” weapon was underwhelming.
Mothra shows up yet never really has a fleshed out role. She just pops up, gets exposition and a bizarre sex joke, then dies for an upgrade. She’s barely even on screen with Godzilla, we’re just told what purpose in the movie she serves via exposition. She’s just there to die.
In turn, the power up just feels lame. It’s clearly MEMBER BURNING GODZILLA but again with none of the context and instead an anime level power up. Godzilla gets beaten by the Destroyer, comes back refreshed, then loses again only to be saved by Mothra who he barely interacts with. Then when Ghidorah’s dead he’s back to normal. So does that mean Mothras always give Godzillas upgrades when they die? Dunno, shut up, Burning Godzilla is here so clap.
>given even the Showa and Heisei films handwaved how those things came about
Most of the time they handled multiple monsters or ideas a lot better. There are hiccups, sure, but MEMBER THIS THING typically didn’t overtake the course of the film.
>But given you're the usual retard batching about KOTM in these threads
First time I’m “batching” about KOTM but ok.
>I'm not entirely convinced you're sentient enough to realize that.
I’m sentient enough to spell “bitching” and not fuck it up in every post.
>Assuming you've even watched the Shwoa era films.
Yes, “Shwoa” is my favorite era.
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>>22130961
>The guy needlessly defending KOTM by claiming anything he doesn’t agree with is invalid and is biased to Kong is also the guy that cried “No you should like 2014 because directing big movies is hard he nice to me Gareth please”
Why am I not surprised.
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>>22130977
I'm not the same anon, retard.
Thanks for confirming that you can be safely disregarded as a mentally challenged moron you are.
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>>22130979
Awfully defensive for a totally-not-Garethlover69 from the last thread.
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>>22130971
I read this post in Comic Book Guy's voice.
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>>22130983
>Why make a counterpoint when I can make le epic Simpsons reference
Weird way to concede but ok.
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>>22130985
My point is that all of the stuff you wrote up is just nerd shit. Not even Toho themselves are that up their own ass about Godzilla.
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>>22130986
>My point is that all of the stuff you wrote up is just nerd shit.
You mean like putting too much stuff into your movie to the point where none of it is properly developed? Which is the same complaint non-nerd critics had about the film. I simply broke down the examples because you need to be spoonfed points otherwise you’ll just spell “bitching” wrong again.
Also, you’re saying “nerd shit” on an online board about Godzilla movies. You’re an idiot.
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>>22130961
>>22130979
No i wasn't i just think anyone who likes that movie is a blind and retarded,
Also fuck you faggot for spamming these threads.
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>>22130986
>just nerd shit
NTA but this is the dumbest fucking take I've ever read
Kaiju movies aren't just about monsters bashing each other upside the head for an hour and a half, there is context that is important to establish WHY these things exist and explain HOW the events came to pass. I'm not going to say that KOTM was a shit movie because any Godzilla is good in my book, but they definitely overloaded their plate and tried to do too much at once with barely any explanation about what was happening which caused the overall quality to suffer.
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>Mention that a flaw of KOTM is that nothing felt organic
>Anon says they don’t know what you mean
>Explain point by point why the concepts and execution didn’t work
>NO T-THAT’S NERD SHIT
>Y-YOU MUST HAVE BEEN THE GUYS THAT HURT MY GARETH SENPAI BUT IT’S NOT ME FROM LAST THREAD SAYING THE SAME THINGS I SWEAR
>YOU MUST LIKE KONG BETTER IT’S THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU’RE BATCHING
This is something else.
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>>22131006
KOTM cultists are insane, have very few guesses why besides it being some shill force shit to protect a film that financially flopped and nearly killed the MV
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>>22130533
Gamera has a similar number of losses as Godzilla who's got like three times more movies.
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>>22131069
It underperformed a bit due to overly long campaign and release date ( I don't know if anyone listened to the critics who just hate the genre) and was then a big hit on home media, merch etc and is a far more popular movie among fans than GvK. Definitely less controversial. Which makes sense because GvK is best for those who don't like Godzilla.
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Sorry, but this shit is still hype af, I don't give a shit about a couple of reddit jokes or oxygen destroyer or whatever retarded shit you're dilating about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTtMtX2B9ps
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>>22131113
It underpeformed because it sucked ass, fuck off with this five year cope already.
>GvK is best for those who don't like Godzilla.
No its the best for those who actually want to SEE the fights faggot
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>>22131165
You have a lot of unreliable information. Sorry that GvK has the opinion of the controversial one that a lot of people dislike. I think it's fair to blame Wingard not only for having absolute zero interest in Godzilla (despite his claims) but for editing his movie in such a way as to leave the audience confused so the new movie will provide more backstory that was cut before.
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>>22130276
Mind you Kaneko also implied that it was his intention for Iris and his human host to be fucking.
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>>22131166
>You have a lot of unreliable information
And you seethe when people call it rightfully shit KOTMtard, it bombed because it was literalky unwatchable
>Wingard not only for having absolute zero interest in Godzilla
He literally let Godzilla kick Kongs ass you stupid KOTMIGGER spammer
Minus one looks thousands of times better than you're hollywood rushjob CGI
Go back to 2019 and stay there retard
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>>22131175
You did not take the popularite that KotM still has among fans well. Or that GvK is known as the one that people hotly debate and when they have to say something good about it it's some faint praise like "well at least it looks nice"
Also you can tell just from the things said about the movie when it came out how uninterested Wingard was with Godzilla in this movie.
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>>22131179
KOTM is a failure in every way and your abortion you worship will never be a good film. Get. Out.
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>>22131180
The one that fans like the most and which was the backbone of the MV lore? No, not a failure. And I'm glad it exists just in case it's the last time they made a movie that cares about Godzilla.
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>>22131182
>it's the last time they made a movie that cares about Godzilla.
By putting him in the literal background for MUH FAMILY DRAMA
Get the fuck out kotmspammer
Your movie will never be good and minus one will fuck it over even more.
>take the popularite
Of course you are an ESL SEAman
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>>22131190
What a weird new obsession.
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>>22131190
Muh minus one muh minus one take truth about your beloved ape movie fag.
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Minus one takes a lot of inspiration from Monsterverse, judging from the trailer, especially 2014. Some shots are even directly copied, like the one with Godzilla passing under a ship.
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>>22131198
>Everyone who hates Kotm must be a king kong fan
You delusional SEAman i am a fan of both
KOTM is objectively shit from a filmakimg standpoint with the constant cutaways, rain, darkness, jittery jerky camera, heavy film grain and clor filters, its flat out one of the visually ugliest godzilla movies o have ever seen and all of that was done to cover up the cgi rushjob the film truely is,
Also you want to talk about wingard "disrespecting" Godzilla? Two can play at that, Doughhurty made Mothra nothing more than a deus ex plot devoce and rodan a jobber despite lying his ass off in marketing for the films acting like they are important when frankly they both could of been cut from the film.
Now leave retard.
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>>22131203
The deisgn is similar to the Ride version also directed by Yamazaki. And the short film made for the ride is basically MV is abridged version. I don't know what the movie will be like but probably as different as possible to stand out more.
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>>22131207
>>22131200
SHIT that reply was ment for this one, pardon the typos
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So he's the same retard you guys had problems with before? One of the infamous /m/ autists.Jesus Christ at least it's not about Shin Godzilla vs. Monsterverse anymore. It was a bit too obvious that it had nothing to do with the film sthemselves but where they were produced.
>>22131207
Damn what a personal rant. I hope that, as some rumors suggest, GxK will backtrack on some of the mistakes from the previous film. But as it's once again directed by Wingard who brought his hack composer with him again I have my doubts even if it may be less of a Kong wankfest this time.
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>>22131208
Yamazaki is definitely a fan of the Monsterverse even though his version will probably be closer to the 1954 movie. Toho and Japan as a whole embraced those movies which is why I find it funny when some attention whore tries to virtue signal about "questionable" use of nucelar themes in MV.
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I decided to peep in here on a lark after a long absence, and
>the turboautist KOTM hater still posts here
Holy shit lmao. Yeah Imma just gonna keep ignoring these threads. Online kaiju discourse truly is cursed.
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>>22131362
Yeah it's really weird. /m/ threads are always there at least but they're far from the best. I expect more regular talk in a few months when all the stuff starts releasing.
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>>22131362
And it’s was the rebooted /kg/ but apparently all th crazies showed up again, the most peace we had was the dude that did some cool infodrops but then some anons were complaining about it as spam(it’s interesting they didn’t protest any of the typical yelling).
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>>22131470
Very ad hoc I'm afraid lots of unnecessary typos.I have many Godzilla books to use as source for something like that but I think there will be lots of more interesting stuff to talk about by the time I'm done.
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I've been catching up on movies and Godzilla -1.0 just got a new trailer in cinemas this week. Watched movies last week too and the one I saw today was definitely new. There's a few more shots of Godzilla including one of him nearly stepping on people, an extended shot of the little girl put at the beginning, etc. but nothing particularly interesting
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>>22131107
Godzilla
>Lost to Kong
>Lost to Mothra (Twice)
Gamera
>Not once in a VS movie did he end as the losing party
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>>22131575
Godzilla never lost to Kong in his entire career but you might interpret it this way if you want to go against the voice of God.
Gamera as the villain was defeated in 1965 but I recognize this bs rhetoric and I'm still not impressed.
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>>22131579
He canonically lost to Kong in '62.
>Kong was the more popular monster at the time
>Is the face
>Multiple scripts label him as the victor, including Toho putting him in a list of monsters that beat Godzilla
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>>22131603
You can believe it but that wouldn't make it official. You'd have to argue against Tomoyuki Tanaka.
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>>22131362
Anon, all I wrote was
>>22127817
The turboautist is the guy who went apeshit and claimed King bias and when given actual criticism called it “need shit” because he had no argument besides “be nice to my movie”.
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>>22131632
*kong
*nerd shit
That’s what I get for responding so early in the morning.
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>>22131113
>GvK is best for those who don't like Godzilla.
Is that why Godzilla won both fights with Kong?
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>>22131643
Very quickly undermined. Talking about the movie close to a 100% was about Kong. How great he is how he's like Rocky and John McClane. This made me realize this is Kong's second solo film advertised as a "proper" crossover. Most of the story on Godzilla side was cut making him look as bad as possible to make people root for Kong. As a result there have been articles proposing that Kong should be the only main character of the monsterverse. Meanwhile the backstory, that only those who care enough to check it know, presents a more even-handed view and even what we know about GxK seems to indicate that we'll learn more that was cut the first time. Godzilla was pretty much a non-entity in GVK and his position in his own series suffered as a result. If, as it appears the case, next movie will try to fix that I'll be more ok with it.
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>>22127096
Are you gonna watch it?
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>>22131647
>Very quickly undermined.
It wasn’t though. First fight he definitely wasn’t undermined because the scene after was about how close Kong was to being killed. The second big fight Godzilla won but was worn out. Then MechaG shows up and overpowers him, so he and Kong tag team the big ba together. That’s not undermining him, that’s giving a reason for them to team up. Even Wingard said Godzilla probably could’ve taken MechaG if he wasn’t worn out.
>Talking about the movie close to a 100% was about Kong.
That’s just incorrect. King was the focus because he’s the more “human” monster, he’s a bit easier to follow for the central portion of the story. It also lets Godzilla be used as a constant tension throughout the movie, because we as an audience are made aware that Godzilla is a powerhouse who is tired of everyone’s bullshit at the moment. If anything it’s the same formula from “Godzilla vs. Mothra” and some of the Heisei films, where he’s more in the background but the motivation for the plot moving forward. Then when it was time for us to see Godzilla in action he wrecked Kong twice. That means Kong has to be the focus in order to build up the fight since he’s not as powerful and already has a strong human connection that creates built in MCs.
>This made me realize this is Kong's second solo film advertised as a "proper" crossover.
No, it’s a crossover movie. I think you’re just upset that it wasn’t Godzilla tap dancing on screen for 2 hours. Godzilla movies are always about the execution of his sequences, not his screen time, and they did his scenes well.
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Kong became the pampered son of the series I'd like to see him taken down a peg in the next movie. Or the one after that once they hire a different director.
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>>22131696
Godzilla already kicked his ass
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>>22131696
>Got beaten twice by Godzilla
>Almost killed by snake monsters if it weren’t for the protags
>Had to tag team with the guy that beat him up and get shocked back to life in order to beat the big bad
I don’t think you know what “pampered” means.
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>>22131700
He gets all the attention both from the creators and the characters in the movie. And got a happy ending. The next movie will be centred around him too this time without a good excuse. Normies consider him one of the highlights of the previous movie and turned away from Godzilla. It's his time.
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>>22131719
You don't have to do damage control for the movie or its director. Legendary does it on its own in all the tie ins explaning the context of what the fuck happened and why like it's a Disney Star wars movie.
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>>22131706
>He gets all the attention both from the creators and the characters in the movie.
He had the movie’s focus because it makes more sense to follow the underdog who has an immediate connection to human characters. And the characters are going to focus on him because the majority of the plot was keeping him from being mauled to death by Godzilla.
>And got a happy ending.
Oh no, how terrible. Why would the underdog we follow in the plot get a happy ending? For the love of god someone do something.
>The next movie will be centred around him too this time without a good excuse.
Sauce: My uncle works at Nintendo
>Normies consider him one of the highlights of the previous movie and turned away from Godzilla.
No one I’ve talked to has said that. The highlights for a lot of people was Godzilla being a menace.
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>>22131757
People always forget that Legendary's kind of a cunt
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>>22131984
He's grumpy but calling him a cunt for spending his life saving the world at his own risk is the level of ingratitude that's like taken straight out of the movies themeslves.
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>>22131995
Kong immediately got good boy points for doing the same except for like five minutes for the first time in his life. Typical.
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>>22131995
>Actively goes out of his way to harass Kong
>Not a cunt
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>All these people dissing the OG giant monster
Cmon guys
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>>22132016
He's not. He's generally good. That he misread the situation and this time big apes don't want to challenge the world that was an honest mistake. Maybe it was a little bit personal but he saved him twice later.
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>>22132018
I like both monsters, but anons in here apparently can’t comprehend that.
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>>22132018
They ask like his shit doesn't stink because he gets those increasingly sappy scenes of him looking at the distance like he's struggling with his inner gay thoughts.
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>>22132032
*act
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlcETjB6-o
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Kong is instantly less sympathetic because he's not a dinosaur but in other news there will be Troll 2. Another Troll 2.
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>>22132120
I'm waiting for Troll 4: More Troll
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American Godzilla has a nuke in it which means it desecrates the memory of the fallen Japanese and misappropriates the message of the original series
I AM SMART
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>>22132161
I saw someone criticize something I think America as a whole for being unable to cmmit to a really anti-American series. I think that's what it was. Either about nukes or the government or wars or bombing of Bikini Atol or Hiroshima I don't fucking now. Couldn't articulate his argument properly, took his toys and left.
What's with kids trying to make a pseudo-intellectual arguments against I assume their own countries? Their arguments are all over the place. I think I prefer when autists here quite openly hate on the Monsterverse just because it was produced in Japan.
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>>22132018
It's just one faggot samefagging and spamming anon
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>>22131174
See, THAT makes sense
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>>22132424
If there’s only 38 ips here on this thread that makes a whole lot more sense now
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>>22131174
>literal canon hmofa yet no art
wew
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>>22132505
He also said he made it ambiguous by making Iris's gender vague. Or that's how he responded to that question. That for girls gothic monsters are erotic and for boys big monsters are sexier.
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>>22132507
Still where is the interview, wanna know that monster sexo (besides the mpreg) is canon to gamera
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>>22132516
https://vantagepointinterviews.com/2018/06/13/on-directing-godzilla-and-gamera-shusuke-kaneko-on-filmmaking-the-kaiju-way/
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>>22131719
My thing is always that it’s based on the execution of Godzilla/monster scenes, not how much he’s there.
In Monster Zero he’s only there for 5 minutes, but what a wild 5 minutes.he could be there for an hour but that means nothing if the screen time isn’t great.
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>>22132533
Yep
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>>22132505
>Gamera's strongest enemy is a groomer
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>>22132573
Whenever there's a bond between kaiju and a human I see them as going one or two ways. Either like a relationship between a chivalrous knight and whoever he protects (like King Caesar) or based one way or another on sex. Could be implied, could be metaphorical but it's an erotic connection. Let's not be afraid of it. Monsters probably do it all the time anyway.
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There's some Mandela effect shit with how these movies went
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>>22132631
There’s not too many films with monster rape surprisingly, Jajo 1984 is one which has a pretty good monster design, despite it not showing up much and being a polish made for TV film which revolves around monster rape
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>>22132653
I can't believe I didn't know about it. Sounds like peak cinema of moral anxiety.
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>>22132665
It’s only 45 minutes and extremely hard to obtain, interesting flick
Nevermind there’s a youtube copy but no subs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlC11H0f1is
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>>22132672
That's ok. But how do you know about things like that?
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>>22132681
There’s a monster rape project on a place I am on, and that was one of the listed films, some other stuff sorta like it is “Curse of Evil” 1982 or “Devil Fetus” 1983, though those are not the main focuses of them, I just know a lot of films
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>>22132653
there was the La Blu Girl live actions
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>>22132309
>*ting ting ting!*
>"AHEM!"
>"Gentlemen, I've an announcement!"
>*lights dim, crowd hushes*
>"I'd like to thank (You), dear samefags."
>"It's not often we get such great posters here..."
>"...And thanks to you, we never will!"
>*rimshot, audience chuckles*
>"But seriously, if your parents are cool with you posting here, then you're ok. Just don't forget to GET A LIFE!"
>*winks at the camera, crowd laughs*
>"But hey, you mouth-breathers may be samefag on every kaiju thread, but at least you're consistent..."
>"...Unlike your grammar! Yowza!"
>*mime-gags; the audience howls*
>"I mean, are you guys running from kaiju while you post? It'd explain why you write like ESLers!"
>*pulls back eye lids*
>"You a-runno wray wong time fwom da beeg rizzard rile typuruuu? Ding Dong! Gozira! Me rikey to stawto sheet onna da 4chan!"
>*a gong rings, the crowd goes wild*
>"And how's our schizo's latest conspiracy going? Still loathing creepy Matt Frank? Newsflash: Nobody cares! HEY-OH!"
>*the whole house is laughing; some whistle*
>"And don't get me started on Mr. 'Discussion Starter'! We all know what you're doing, buddy! Same to you, Mr. Fake Leaks!"
No wonder nobody likes your Fanfiction!"
>*raises champagne glass*
>"And so, a toast to you, samefags! Cheers! May you hopefully feel embarassed at yourselves. We're tired of being embarassed for you."
>*curtains close*
>*audience stands up for a standing ovation*
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>>22132942
>not caring that sex pest and potential predators have influnce in the franchise
Lmao no one even mentioned Matt Frank
you are part of the problem faggot
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>>22132950
You do realize you just proved their point, don't you?
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>>22132976
i don't care, predators have no place in even getting near godzilla
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>>22132983
Your intentions are noble, I'll give you that. Even if you don't do jack shit about it yourself.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox98HtYMqSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQMUjYoQmSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBS_GO86l3o
I can't read or speak Korean. Mind giving me a rundown as to what the fuck this is? Apparently this is Yonggary. No really
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You know what monster I’d want to use for MV? Orga. I’d want to make it partially a body horror film like The Fly, the Stuff, and the Blob remake.
>A flying saucer, initially about the size of a car arrives on earth, feeding on small energy sources then leaving
>As it gets bigger it starts to have a more gooey underneath. A piece of Orga separates, absorbs a Monarch agent, then mimicks his body. He hacks into Mondarch’s main computer systems and gathers knowledge about our race, Godzilla, and our languages.
>Orga talks in broken speak to the protags, telling them he found an earth satellite and learned of earth’s bountiful energy and learned of Godzilla. Orga says “Want feed. Want feed good. Want be king.” And points at Godzilla’s image. The piece goes back to the main saucer, which is now massive.
>The saucer morphs into a bizarre gelatin/squid like mass and feeds on a monster it awakens. It takes in the monster’s life force and mutates more into the Orga we know, but laments “Not king.”
>Monarch tries an operation to take a piece of it, but a piece breaks off and goes on a killing spree. The main Orga eats more monsters, growing in size and power and looks like a mishmash of creatures.
>Finally Organize finds Godzilla and has a big showdown. Orga is still not fully realized and takes a massive bite out of Godzilla and flees. Godzilla is wounded and Orga leaves to developed into a horrific mass that looks almost like a decaying Godzilla with extra limbs.
>The Monarch soldiers realize over feeding Orga creatures too fast with energy causes them to struggle and be in a coma. They try to figure out how to relay this Godzilla.
>Final showdown, Godzilla gets overwhelmed. Orga begins slowly feeding on Godzilla, loudly booming “Me king.” Godzilla can’t move and Orga is transforming.
>Monarch rolls out the Maser Tank, a new weapon, and gets Orga to feed on its overwhelming energy. Godzilla sees Orga slowing down (1/2)
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>>22133119
>(2/2) and joins by blasting a full bore blast inside of Orga. The creature goes into a coma, and Godzilla kills it.
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>>22133068
This feels so alien to me because outside of Korea he’s just another Godzilla(and gamera) clone that had one movie from the 60s and a remake/reimagining in 1999/2000.
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>>22133068
Chicken nuggets commercial Yongary, and likely the most profitable he has and ever will be
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>>22133139
I know. But what's actually happening?
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>>22133258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOoSe2K5DU
FRIED CHICKEN
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>>22133272
Oh, what the hell fired chicken
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>>22133272
I know but like, there's a story to the commercials.
Like I said, I wanted to Heisei trilogy Yonggary
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>>22133258
A bunch of lore stuff, Yongary’s sister/date(both?) one the pink one originated in the 90’s and has a toy or two from then and was in a shoe commercial, the green one may have been inspired from a suit varation used in a currently lost 1969 korean film “Lady Hong” who also has horns and stuff, https://maserpatrol.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/yongary2.jpg?w=444 those two have official names btw
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>>22133282
Look, like I said I wanted to see if it could be done.
Me and my sister (She's weird like that) figured out a possible setup, but I need more details/characters to fill out said plotline. See, we decided "What if I just did Land Before Time/Disney's Dinosaur but with a giant monster instead of a group of dinosaurs?"
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>rebirth fell out of the Japanese top 10
Lmao
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>>22133318
I meanwhile am the guy who is basically an expert in korean cinema and is documenting the chicken nugget version of him, along with korean cinema in general (Also I am friends with the guy who ripped the first two episodes of Kaiju Marin Kong 1960 online as a side note), I am less for writing fanfiction right now and more studying shit like “Wait there are official pig bad guys yongary fights?”
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Yonggary could never be taken seriously after the anal bleeding incident
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>>22133385
Fuck
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>>22133385
It remained there for longer than SP did, give it credit for that
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Alright guys, how would you design a mecha gamera? What weapons would it have? What would it look like?
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>>22133436
>lying this blatantly
SP was there it’s entire run, ranging from 2nd to 5th place. Gamera lasted a WEEK at 9th place.
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>>22133441
Huh, did it? Someone told me that. Guess they were a liar
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>>22133439
I wouldn't. That's gay as shit. If I had to do an "Evil Gamera" I'd go full Army of Darkness and have his severed hand regenerate into an evil Gamera.
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>>22133410
That gives me an idea: Boar monsters
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>>22133441
>Comparing a series that was released one episode at a time to one that was released all at once
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>>22133449
like pig bomb mixed with the legends of early proto-Gamera about rats
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>>22133459
Also how’s that manga scan going
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>>22133465
as good as ever lol
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>>22133458
Ok, one episode of a Godzilla show got more viewtime than the entire series of Gamera
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>>22133484
Jesus Christ this show bombed.
Welp, that’s wraps
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=Ppk9DZoR2nQ
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>>22134200
What is that?
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>>22134243
I dunno. Some thing.
What are they hoping to acomplish?
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>>22133490
>Show that looks like they spent $5 on the animation but promoted based on the action failed
I’m shocked
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>>22134709
It failed because it’s Gamera you fucking retard. Even if it had Ghibli tier animation nobody would’ve watched it because it has no brand recognition.
The idea that things get by via actual merits is a pipe dream in the modern day.
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>>22134775
I didn’t watch it, I love Gamera, but it looked like ass.
>Muh brand recognition
Yes anon, nothing without an established brand has ever been successful.
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>>22134709
They probably spent more on cross promotions than the show itself
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>>22134844
In the modern day? You’re either Godzilla or nothing
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>>22134872
>what is Ultraman
>what is king kong
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>>22134872
Source: Trust me bro
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>why is this 6/10 show being forgotten
Idk
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>>22134940
Those guys got famous while Godzilla was still in infancy or in Kong’s case nonexistent.
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>>22134955
Are you seriously going to blame Godzilla for the fact that Rebirth seems to be flopping?
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>>22134958
I’m not. I’m blaming that Gamera is extremely unpopular. No wonder it failed
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>>22134964
I think your missing the elephant in the room, it’s not because of gamera specifically and the answer is a bit more obvious
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>>22134964
Gamera is like up there but at this point there's Godzilla who's got like near monopoly but there's also place for Ultraman in Kamen Rider. All the Shin triplets. The I suppose it's Super Sentai at distant fouth I don't know what's happening there but at least they can produce cheap tv shows. Gamera has no clear way if there will be live action movies or animation or tv series.
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>>22135180
Do you think Kadokawa will continue with better animation if they do a season 2?
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>>22125126
i am forgotten
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>>22134964
Or, you know, it’s because the series looked bad.
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>>22135293
Animation or just generally?
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Just finisheds Rebirth, what's the deal with Joe? Is his mind trapped inside not-Apple's phone network or something?
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>>22135388
Joe mama
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>>22135388
who fuckin knows, the scene at the very end felt so far out of left field it seemed like something they pulled out of their ass at the last moment just to tease a possible sequel and also completely invalidates the point of Joe's sacrifice. could be his ghost in the oryllium, could be that there was a second escape pod, could be anything really
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>>22135438
Or maybe he survived somehow
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>>22135451
I mean yeah, that was what I was implying with the second escape pod line. Gamera may have zapped the shitheels on the moon but there's still a supply base that was mentioned by the scientist bitch, he could have somehow escaped the explosion and gotten picked up by the guys she had take it over
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>>22135464
I mean it crashed in like, the ocean
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdFGYI-g4WY
Say what you will about the human animation but Natsuake is a fucking awesome song
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>>22135468
>could be anything really
You have really bad reading comprehension, don't you? Point remains we're never gonna know for sure until they make a sequel, IF they make a sequel. I'm just mad because what was the point about making a big deal about Joe sacrificing himself for his friends when they're just gonna immediately handwave it away anyways?
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The script on rebirth needed some more refinement. They couldn't decide if they wanted to be Heisei or Showa in terms of tone, and it leaves the whole thing underwhelming.
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What is he, some kind of Godzilla King of the Monsters
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>>22135475
Honestly, I think it's accurate. Gamera has always been about contrasting the absurd with the ultra-dark
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Season 2 plotlines. Go
>Baby Gamera vs Nezura outbreak.
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The agent should have been the one to sacrifice himself on the shuttle. He didn't do anything of note the entire series, it would have been a nice end to his arc about wanting to go to the moon, and would have fit the theme of not sacrificing children.
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>>22135560
Should've been based Dario
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>>22135388
Someone is imitating him
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>>22135533
>non existent
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>>22135700
>the viewiership samefaggot spammer who thinks anything that's not in the number one spot and 25 million views isn't good enough is back.
I think it's time to retire these threads for a long while, it's full of nothing but retards, schizos, hoaxers, shitposters and spammers.
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>>22135753
Get out of here you literal bot faggot before I unplug your circuit board from the shitskin master of your’s PC.
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>>22135781
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP DISCUSSING A KAIJU SERIES IN THE KAIJU THREAD
Something tells me you’re very upset
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>>22135793
Why are you insisting I’m Indian? I poop in a toilet and redeem the cards thank you very much
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>>22135797
You do spam a garbage catchphrase like a local board shitter known as the oldrinfag, so it wouldn’t surprise me if all the shitflinging gamera flop sayers were as brown as him.
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>>22135801
What catchphrase are you taking about? We should be allowed to talk about Gamera’s low ratings without you sperging and typing paragraphs of insults assuming I’m Indian
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>>22135806
>We should be allowed to talk about Gamera’s low ratings
You're not discussing anything you are spamming the same garbage again and again like a retarded parrot
Tv viewings and box office numbers are not even comparable and 25 million is decent
I literally don't care if it failed or not im sick of the same damn repetitive spam in these threads
God almighty just talk about minus one or monarch show already
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>>22135811
>25 million is decent
Except it’s not even close to that. Multiple people are talking about it and are allowed to because it’s the kaiju general. You having a personal problem with it doesn’t change that. It’s like when someone says “no one cares about x” when a bunch of people are discussing that thing.

I’m going to talk about it simply because there’s not much to talk about, all we have for monarch and minus one are a trailer and we have even less for GxK.
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>>22131362
Yep. These threads have been fucking terrible for a long while. Not really sure why we still have them other than inertia and autists needing their dead horse.
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>>22135832
I really do think we should have another break from this general, clearly it hasn’t improved and if another thread is made it’s out of spite as an excuse to keep arguing about the same shit and whatnot. Anyone else agree?
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>>22135811
What's there to talk about?
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>>22135815
You know, the only hope I have for LOM is them taking a darker more grounded tone that actually portrays Godzilla as a menacing figure
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>>22135815
>>22135811
I'm still working on making Yonggary good/unique.
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>>22135877
He will be a menacing figure. To monsters that want to wreck shit up on Earth
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>>22135931
>Ignores the casualties
Even Gamera had to own up to that shit
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>>22135744
I don’t know the number stuff, but if it did badly I wouldn’t be surprised. The whole show promoted itself on monster fights but had horrid animation. Who would want to watch that?
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>>22136052
But the monster fights were pretty good
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>>22136132
Fake and gay
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Alright now that the general is at its bump limit please read
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>>22135842
I do think we should let these rest, I know there’s new stuff coming out but for the time being I think not having a general would probably be more beneficial overall
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>>22135962
Gamera killed tens of thousands,Godzilla would have to actually try to match him but protecting human cities is canonically part of his duties but it's evil monsters who choose the battlefields.
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>>22136132
>so blatantly AI it nearly isn’t funny
Sigh
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>>22135877
MV Godzilla is explicitly the hero of the setting. Segueing into trying to portray him as a menace to be feared would be utterly schizophrenic.

>>22135962
Gamera killed countless people because he doesn't care about collateral, but MV Goji explicitly does try to avoid causing needless loss of life.
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>>22136830
Legendary Godzilla avoided conflict in 2014, kinda in KotM, in GVK he was very careless. So was Kong so I don't know I guess maybe it was kind of the point to portray the monsters so into the fight they became oblivious to the suroundings.
In GxK Godzilla will at least respect famous landmarks enough not to completely destroy them but still use them as a comfy place to rest
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>>22136858
Kong is generally labeled as a better person because he doesn’t go out of his way to antagonize anyone
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>>22136880
He also doesn't care about saving the world but Godzilla does and him attacking Kong is a by-product of that. Because Wingard doesn't like going over 2h the rest of that story will be told in the sequel. Turns out the apes started it. Is that surprising or not?
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>>22136912
>Turns out the apes started it.
How do you know?
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>>22136858
>Women vastly underestimate how often Godzilla thinks about the Roman Empire
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>>22137121
The plot was leaked a while ago
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>>22137121
Not him, but if the plot really is that the big bad is Lanky Kong then it makes sense. Plus it seems like Godzilla’s people seem like creatures of nature whereas Kongs seem more independent in terms of actions. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some Kongs were chill and others were huge assholes.
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>>22137530
Ok, first they were supposed to be the bad guysa who didn't tolerate competition to their kingdom and started the war against apes now they're automatons we're getting somewhere. Next we'll discover that Godzilla and Mothra were justified in banishing surviving kongs to Skull Island.
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>>22137678
>Ok, first they were supposed to be the bad guysa who didn't tolerate competition to their kingdom and started the war against apes now they're automatons we're getting somewhere
Based on what?
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Gamera 3 would’ve been the best Kaiju movie of all time if the monster fights were good beyond an effects standpoint. Personally, here’s the changes I would’ve made
>Make Gamera fight/kill some Gyaos in melee combat, and scarily fast at that. Like, have a Gyaos try to swoop in and gouge his shoulder only for him to grab it and slam it into a building before blasting it
>The fight with Iris should’ve also been more choreographed and aggressive, with them throwing each other around and slashing/beating the shit out of one another.
>It also should’ve been more apocalyptic in scale with its use of ranged attacks. Like, have them devastate Kyoto and beyond with their fight in a way that makes Legion look tame
>More of a dogfight between Gamera and Iris
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How is he so FUCKABLE
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>>22138529
We can discuss it in the next thread.



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