>>22110779
No one knows what this fuck was saying including Pooky himself

>>22109613
He's not entirely wrong, but I can't believe he's been doing this for nearly three years and hasn't figured out that people don't always take kindly to blunt statements about things they like. Especially when they're reiterating that no one in charge takes the show seriously, which comes across rather clear in how the show is handled.

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Next OP better fix this shit

So, it's generally accepted that Zordon got to most of his laying out backup plans like the the Thunder, Ninja, and Mega V zords after his interment in the time warp, right?
Given that Alpha is generally useless away from the Command Center, how did he go about any of that with no hands?

>>22111010
The Ninja Zords and powers didn't seem to be a plan he had at the ready like the Thunder Zords and the White Ranger were. He seemed to be genuinely taken by surprise in Ninja Quest and only mentioned Ninjor out of "Well, there's not really anything else we can do." And with the Mega Vehicles I assume he had help from NASADA and/or KO-35.

>>22110932
That won't bring JDF back

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THE SIGNAL IS CALLING
OUR PLANET IS FALLING
THE DANGER WILL TEST YOU
BETTER MAKE IT A LIGHT SPEED RESCUE

People overstate just how much "lore" PR has. After Lost Galaxy and up to RPM, the show was pretty much self contained series where the only reference to the past was a crossover episode (sans Dino Thunder). The push for more connection between the series only really picked up again with Samurai (bringing back Bulk) and, more heavily, with Beast Morphers, which REALLY starts integrating past shows into its plot.

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Ryona ugly bastards

>>22111113
A combination of the show retaining 30 years of continuity and it being live action with real people makes the lore so much more important for the show. It's not like a video game where callbacks are easy. Cosmic fury needed to arrange real humans to come back for an expansion to their role. That's 1000 times more exciting.

This man will not shut up lol
https://twitter.com/Pookina1/status/1701570043258302874

So this Simon guy is another example of someone getting involved with something they don't particularly like and trying to change it to suit them?

>>22110779
>GoTG
You don't even need to go that far. Some anons have said, you got Toei making Kamen Rider and Kingohger, heck I even put Shinkenger in there, and they can do both well

It's just the PR production incapable of doing anything good, and ended up with Cosmic Fury suit

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https://x.com/DavidJFielding/status/1701527464177025165?s=20

>Reee why won't you eat the slop!

>>22111010
I think Zordon has drones that do a lot of the heavy lifting, fixing zords and such

Presumably he had a fleet constructing the Mega Vehicles out near Jupiter but they weren't ready yet during MMPR3

>>22111269
>Creator says he laughs at the thing he’s in charge of in meetings then makes comments about moving away from staple aspects of PR
>We live in a world where this is not the first time this has happened and we’ve watched franchise go up in flames because a head writer thinks they’re better than the franchise
>GEE FANS OF THAT PRODUCT, WHY ARE YOU SO NEGATIVE
In a rare twist, I’m with the Twitter mob on this one.

>>22111232

I read the Twitter thread and it was pretty fucking sensible and normal. Not that he even would have seen this but even OUR THREAD was pretty fucking sensible and normal about it, and the Reddit thread. With all 3 having a similar sentiment and normal ass fucking discouse.

It's like anything that isn't praise is a personal attack to him. Which is why he only likes and retweets posts that are praise. It's clearly not just advertising his show.

That and his retarded ego must have snapped when people pointed out (on all 3 sites lol) how stupid it was to say:
>Power Rangers should steo away from its tokusatsu roots
>By keeping all these things from tokusatsu

Instead of explaining himself or talking to people he just throws piss baby bitch fits and tries to cry and play the victim. He's a 50 year old white man does he not realize 1hat won't work on twitter unless you're at least a woman? ALSO why does a 50 year old man sound like such a fucking little pussy. Pathetic. I'm glad Power Rangers is over.

>>22111269
Do these retarded faggots really think a lot of people replying to them is harassment?

Makes me really appreciate all the Power Ranger actors who do con stuff and appreciate the fans and are not brainrotted from twitter

>>22110757

I'd like to point out that unless you really liked certain characters that happened anyway. And woe to anyone that liked the old Zords. If you're favorites were Jason and the Dino Megazord you got screwed because they were dropped anyway. And even Tommy fans probably liked Dragonzord and the Green suit better.

That's the problem with a toy based franchise. Eventually they want kids to like next season's toys and make them more money.

>>22111533
>It's like anything that isn't praise is a personal attack to him.
He’s literally following the footsteps of Kurtzman, Kevin Smith, Teen Titans Go, Thundercats Roar, and the NuWars staff. Any and all criticism is “attacking” them, and fans should be thankful that they’re getting slop because their franchise was never good.
It’s like there’s a show runner play book for it now.

>>22111476
>Presumably he had a fleet constructing the Mega Vehicles out near Jupiter but they weren't ready yet during MMPR3
I remember reading once years ago someone pointing out that the Mega Voyager and Mega Winger were basically replacements for the Ninja Zords where Tommy's Zord wouldn't have been taken out of the fight when the "Ninja MegaFalconzord" was formed.

>>22111519
He said he laughed at the Sentai that became Ninja steel
Have you seen that one

>>22111233
I think he's just stuck in this dead-end job with PR and since he can't possibly name the real reason PR is shit, which is Hasbro not giving a fuck to make a good show, he blames the show itself and the fans for not accepting this Hasbro slop and any future Hasbro slop.
And I'm confident that Cosmic Fury won't be shit, I'm sure he tried with whatever he had, but he had the money and the directive to make low tier slop and it will show.

The related tweets under that Pookina tweet is going to give me high blood pressure. I forgot how awful Twitter is because I only follow mostly non english speaking fanart and toy photo and hentai accounts.
>>22111702
Hints of it were there in the 90's when cartoonists would mock stereotypical nerds like jokes in the Simpsons and the Comic Book guy, jokes in Animaniacs, jokes in Dexter's lab etc. They'd often be about nerds criticizing a show from their fandom like the Xena convention bit. But Twitter happened and made everthing so much worse ih ways I don't even know. It was like a piss baby nuke went off. You should see what happened to Reboot.

>>22111916
Most of those jabs were directly at the extremes that, at the time, had to do a LOT to tell people they sucked. And usually there was actual jokes to it, not just “You suck and a bigot”.

>>22111568
Sure, Jason and the Dino Zords eventually left, but they were gradually written out as part of the story. It wasn't "Here's a brand new show and nothing you saw before matters." And about Green/White, I'm sure there are people who liked Green better, but as far as Tommy and his story goes, becoming the White Ranger feels like such a great reward for him after having suffered with the failing Green Ranger powers for so long. Such payoff isn't possible if they'd just adapted Zyuranger and Dairanger directly.

>>22111824
All fairness, even Japan doesn't like Ninninger.

>>22111519
>>22111824
>Everyone suddenly pretending that Sentai doesn't have moments or elements that are completely laughable
This fandom needs to grow up and stop being defensive babies.

>>22112362
Hi Pooky

>>22112396
Dude was being way too blunt but he wasn't wrong. The only series people really appreciate for leaning into the wacky of the Sentai they're based on is Ninja Storm and Dino Thunder.

>>22112523
Not that anon, but maybe that's because they're the only ones that did it well?

>>22112362
First make your show the better show before mocking, as a public figure, what paid your bills for the last half decade Pooky.
I'll joke about Sentai as long as I want, a reply in a siberian fish filleting hangout doesn't affect the product everyone gets.

>>22112523
>Be in charge of a franchise people like and want to see improve
>lol the rubber suits are stupid
>Shocked that there’s pushback
>”No it’s ok because he’s right”
It’s such a bizarre line of thinking to me to not understand why people wouldn’t be happy with that comment.

>>22112645
Is it not understandable that some people can legitimately agree that sometimes the Sentai they're pulling footage/props from can run counter what Power Rangers is trying to do? It's a lot of why parts of Zeo and almost all of Turbo feel disjointed.

>>22112664
Go ahead and read what he wrote again.
>>22108329
You’re going to tell me that doesn’t sound “This major aspect of what you like is stupid and I laugh at it”?

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>>22112849
Yes because we call it stupid and laugh at it too. It's why no one cares that Zyuohger didn't get adapted when they look almost like parodies of PR. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that a lot of Super Sentai as of late isn't dipping further into the absurd.

>>22112870
>we
How vague of you. I’ve never “laughed at” the costumes because I acknowledge what they are and like them.

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Last thread I posted abour how confused I was by hiw vague he was but I didn't realize he posted trying to clarify it.

But that makes it even worse somehow. I almost agree with 1 thing and that is cheapness because a higher budget would be more fun. But not if you use it to remove spandex, rubber suits, and basically all fun.

But then that's still objectively wrong to say the root of tokusatsu is being, looking or being seen as cheap when we have higher budget tokusatsu and tokusatsu that doesn't look cheap.

And I still dont get what the fuck his second tweet is on about.

>>22111777
We really have no idea when Zordon started the Mega Voyager project, or if/when he gave the Space Ranger powers and Astro Megaship to KO-35

Because presumably he must have right? For the Astro Megaship to be able to combine with a NASADA shuttle, he had to have planned that part?

>>22112904
I feel like acting and the framing of it has become a lost art thanks to CGI and people thinking sincerity is cringe.
People now just stare at the MCU and can't take any superhero action media that isn't at the same standard.
Just fucking put in the effort to sell the spandex and rubber with some degree of sincerity you hacks

>>22112870
>no one cares that Zyuohger didn't get adapted
Speak for yourself, faggot.

Pooki has literally mindbroken the Power Ranger's fandom. He's simultaneously radicalized both the doomers and the shills, it's kinda beautiful.

>>22112930
Even the MCU acts like it's ashamed of itself and is always making jokes as if to see "It's ok guys we're all in the on the joke". Americans just take themselves too fucking seriously these days

>>22112948
His ultimate act of revenge before leaving.

>>22112948
Good. Power Rangers fans deserve to suffer.

>>22112958
There's some bizarre cultural psychology going on I can't ever understand.

>I dont want to feel childish so I will act childish while watching something childish

Why don't people like this watch/read something else then...?

>everyone loves campy ass wrestling though for some reason

>>22112870
>Yes because we call it stupid and laugh at it too
Yes, but there's an important difference you're not recognizing. We, the fans, mock it with love. We laugh with it, not at it. Simon and people like him mock it in a malicious "This shit is fucking stupid and objectively bad and fuck anyone who likes it" sort of way.

>>22112870
>Yes because we call it stupid and laugh at it too.
I think the key difference is the bit where he says he 'couldn't get his head around' the appeal of these core elements

>>22112362
The main contention here isn't that certain elements are laughable, it's the implication that being laughable is a flaw and not a feature. That it's the main impediment to the franchise gaining legitimacy in the eyes of general audiences. That growth automatically equals reinventing itself to be in-line with it's contemporaries rather than carving out a niche for itself in today's market.

I'm guessing Pooky is struggling to find work because being the producer of Power Rangers is probably not a very strong point on the resumé, hence the meltdown

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>>22113497
Yeah imagine seeing japanese footage as a bunch of people who make a children's show and think they won't enjoy it or find it funny in an entertaining way. They're my dads age shouldn't they have had kids that enjoyed power rangers or something campy at least?

I would kill for Jim Henson company tier monsters though. Incidentally this was the only good thing Netflix ever made and everyone sung it praises. It was mostly canceled because of a regime change.

>>22113525
Is PR where careers go die?

>>22113727
Did Pooky even have a career?

>>22113305
>We, the fans, mock it with love. We laugh with it, not at it.
Horseass. Everyone was laughing at the awful CGI rangers when Donbrothers dropped.

>>22113727
It's fucking weird how Disney era actors could have careers yet from Neo-Saban onwards it's a death career. Though then again, Disney era actors already had experience and/or connections.

>>22113887
Even many of the original Saban era got dead careers.
JYB dodged the bullet by becoming a voice actor.

>>22113887
>>22113901
Who's arguably the biggest PR export? In overall career? Not because they killed their housemate and made the news.

>>22113906
Johnny basically put the anime/video game dub industry on his back for a good while. The weirdest one would be Brad Hawkins for spending decades basically doing nothing then coming back to be Doomguy and Goblin Slayer.

>>22113847
If current year Power Rangers was written like Donbrothers, people would shut the fuck up about perceived "production shortcoming" pretty fast like most people who watched that show did.

>>22113915
Donbros was hot ass.

>>22113906
Rose McIver?

>>22113923
Many RPM actors kinda went big for PR standards, right?

>>22113919
>Donbros was hot shit
ftfy

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PINK RANGERRRRRR
Come out to PLAAAAAYYYYY

Hey nerds, anyone seen kimberly?

>>22113919
>hot ass
Don't make me activate my slut postings anon

>>22113919
You fucking wish lol

>>22113919
Yeah, something you can't move your eyes away from

>>22113906
I've seen SPD Red in a bunch of stuff.

>>22113919
yeah the slut's ass is hot

>>22112930
Okay but I refuse to take Geats seriously for a second.

>>22114035
Scott was a regular in Jessica Jones but never seen him in anything afterwards. I assume that him going full antivax/antimask on Twitter during covid means his career is dead, if it wasn't before.

Dillon, Flynn, Ziggy and Dr. K from what I know have gotten roles in minor stuff here and there in Australia/NZ stuff, but nothing too big. K seems to be the most successful from among these, but again, no real breakout. Don't know about Gem and Gemma.

Only Summer and Tenaya have really taken off, though to be fair for a PR series to have not one but TWO actors that move onto real stuff is a huge deal.

>>22113906
JYB. He was one of the biggest names in anime/games and had countless major roles for over 20 years and is still doing it to this day. He's probably the most well known even by people who didn't watch PR.

A couple others got into more mainstream things that he did one or two times but in terms of overall output JYB takes the win

>>22114959
>Summer and Tenaya have really taken off
their clothes.

>>22113542
Dark Crystal AOR being cancelled was when I cancelled my subscription.
But to your point, it does not matter whether or not the reaction makes sense. It’s tone deaf as fuck to express it when there’s a push to go away from the staples of the franchise.

Remember when James Napier showed up at the end of Ninja Storm and then in Dino Thunder they said his character in that series was Conner's twin brother? It was a minor incongruity and most of us didn't even realize that this random guy was Conner's actor, but the staff bothered to resolve that detail.
Meanwhile, these current hacks not only recycled monsters from the past, but also former lead actors into new, also important human characters and ignored whatever similarities there were between the two actor's characters.

>>22115812
I still don't understand the logic of bringing Medina back as Deker. I get that Wild Force wasn't everyone's favorite season, but he's still a Ranger. Monster voices are fine, but you'd think they'd be sort of off-limits as far as bringing them back as new human characters go. Can you imagine having ASJ or JDF appearing on the show and they weren't playing Jason or Tommy?

>>22115854
Sentai does it all the time, you have gotta stop letting fanwank paint your perceptions.

>>22115906
>expecting a previously established actor to be playing their previously established character
>fanwank
It's a stupid outlier that has never happened before or since in the entire thirty year series, anon. Try that in some other franchise and see how well it goes. If William Shatner shows up in Star Trek, he better be playing Captain Kirk.

>>22116027
>>22115906
>Try that in some other franchise and see how well it goes. If William Shatner shows up in Star Trek, he better be playing Captain Kirk.


>Sentai does it all the time,

>>22116027
That's happened plenty of times in other major franchises anon. Star Trek included. Sorry you are too autistic to understand that for the most part everything post Lost Galaxy pretty much ignored continuity outside of crossover episodes until relatively recently.

>>22115906
Sentai straight up had lead characters play different lead characters in the very next show in the earlier seasons.

>>Sentai does it all the time
Sentai does a lot of things Power Rangers doesn't do. So what?

>>22116049
>everything post Lost Galaxy pretty much ignored continuity outside of crossover episodes
Yeah, and even then they didn't do it.

What's with the autism with Medina? He was looking for another role, they knew he was reliable from his previous turn as Cole so they cast him. It's not like people would confuse the two, he was 10 years older and had a drastically different look.

>>22116126
Anon had a panic attack when he saw the same person play a different character at Disneyland once and has sworn against actors being cast in different roles

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it's ok to have the same people in all the programs because it makes me anxious to see new actors.
And that's why this franchise is and always will be shit.

>>22116211
Yeah 1 actor in a drastically different role 10 years apart is not that.

if you could blame one thing for Power Rangers losing popularity, what would it be?

>>22116211
No the franchise will always be shit because of lunatic fans like you losing your shit over the stupidest minor fucking things like a single actor playing another role a decade later.

Pooky is right. This franchise attracts the most autistic nutjobs.

Jesus fucking Christ you pieces of shit, all I said was I thought it was weird that they used such a prominent actor who had previously played one of the series' titular Power Rangers as another human/face character that was completely unrelated to said previous character because it is not something the series has ever done before or since, and so I was curious what made them decide to do it that one time. God-fucking-damn.

>>22116243
You severely underestimated the autism and butthurt the average PR fan is capable of. But like anon said above, probably just that someone of the staff still was in touch with Medina, found out he was looking for a gig and decided to cast him as Deker.

Which honestly is usually exactly how it works in Sentai when those actors come back. It's usually because someone of the current shows staff also worked on their original show and still talks to the cast occasionally and they end up giving them a supporting role.

>>22116132
>>22116211
How bored are you that you still feel the need to make up drama where there is none?

>>22116027
Didn't Adam West pop up in plenty of Batman series while not being Bruce Wayne?

>>22116300
Let's face it, Adam West just played himself in basically everything he did post Batman.

>>22116300
The only time he did that I'm aware of is when he played Gray Ghost in Batman: The Animated Series, which is not A) the same thing as an in-person role and B) not in continuity with '60s Batman, so it's not really comparable to Medina coming back as Deker.

>>22116211
You are right.

>>22116211
I hate how retard is the PR fanbase, imagine defending these hacks.

>>22116224
Probably the downfall of syndicated afternoon kids blocks. Once Fox Kids died out, Power Rangers was regulated to special networks at later hours which many kids either didn't have or didn't feel like watching after dinner.

It's why no matter what anybody does PR will never achieve that kind of viewership and hype ever again because that kind of window to force it out to every kid in America pretty much no longer exists in any medium.

>>22116224
The Neo-Saban Era, full stop. Trying to revive MMPR mania in the worst ways, Tzachor's robotic approach to adaptations, the enforced handicapping of the writing in addition to Nick's mandates. All these things carried on through the Hasbro buyout and the series was never given the chance to properly recover.

>>22116614
I can agree with that initial assessment, but I feel like the latter part is so obvious it shouldn't even be mentioned. The idea of the franchise ever being as big as it was initially was is a fool's errand. Consistent quality and advertising should be a bigger focus than anything else.

>>22116754
Going to agree on the Neo Saban era. It killed any chance of it coming back strong, at that point the franchise was bleeding out.
>RPM was over, but we’ll received
>Saban has PR back, everyone’s hyped
>Promise of going back to its roots to the Zordon/Post Zordon era
>Turns out it’s just a series of lazy, poorly planned, uninteresting half-attempts banking on nostalgia
This kills the interest.

>>22116614
Apparently kids don't want to buy toys as much as when we were kids euther, probably because of cellphones and videogames (probably more of the former)

What was it that made MMPR such a phenomenon back then anyway

>>22117261
It was a Saturdays morning kids sitcom but cool because of the fight scenes

>>22117261

At a guess? It was cool. It was a live action show, but wasn't a sitcom; there was FIGHTING and EXPLOSIONS and COLOURS and GUITAR SOUNDTRACK. As other anons put it, there wasn't anywhere near as much competition, either. It was broadcast in the prime after-school pre-dinner block, where you might have one or two competing viewing options.
It also helped that it had a solid toy-line to accompany it. The Megazords are obvious, but you could get action figures, the weapons, morphers, all sorts of things which allowed all kinds of different play.

>>22116224
There's nothing to blame. PR has run its course. This isn't 1993, 2003, or even 2013 anymore. Times have changed in terms of distribution, what kids will watch, and openness to Asian media.

What >>22116614 mentioned is a natural consequence of the death of kids programming by the late 90's/early 00's on network TV. Not just PR, but other live-action programming that NBC used to have like Saved by the Bell, Hang Time, City Guys, California Dreams were lingering on until the new millennium emerged and then ended. NBC alongside FOX and ABC used to dedicate Saturday mornings to cartoon blocks, but that got phased out as cable TV became more prominent and specialized channels like Nickelodeon, Disney, and especially Cartoon Network captured the kids' market.

>>22116754
>>22116759
Wanking over Saban buying back PR was hilarious in hindsight to see die-hard fans think he would bring the "power back".

>>22117261
I was born 10 years after MMPR, but my older cousin grew up watching it and he explained it to me. At the time, you had Saved by the Bell, a really cheesy early 90's series about high school shenanigans. PR was at the right place at the right time because it emulated some of those elements by having Teenagers with Attitude that transform into colorful outfits with awesome weapons and giant dinosaur robots to battle weird Monsters of the Week.

I watched the 2010 reversion and while I didn't think much of it, I could clearly see why 1993 kids loved the shit out of it. Each Ranger fit a 90s cliche: jock, nerd, cool guy, ethnic token, the chick. And each of them had an episode that centered on them and how they would resolve their personal issue while simultaneously beating the bad guy. Then comes along the mysterious new guy in school. He's just as good in martial arts as the jock leader and he suddenly becomes brainwashed and given the same powers as the heroes, but he's evil. Perfect drama for kiddies.

>>22117261
I was around during the boom. There wasn’t anything else like it around. Everything was cartoons, so having a big action series with the outlandish costumes and special effects to rock music was the coolest thing ever. No one in the US really knew about Tokusatsu so it was like Prometheus showing people fire.

>>22117997
>No one in the US really knew about Tokusatsu so it was like Prometheus showing people fire.

We didnt know about that kind of tokusatsu but everyone knew about kaiju movie tokusatsu because of Godzilla's popularity. Which made Dragonzord even cooler for those who knew.

>>22117261
Jurassic Park's popularity was part of it every kid koved dinosaurs. They probably always did anyways.

>>22118095
That too since Jurassic Park came out in June 1993 and MMPR debuted in August 1993. So they captured lightning in a bottle by having the perfect conditions.

>>22117997
>There wasn’t anything else like it around.

This is really it, it was an entirely new and exciting proposal that had no real competitors in what it was doing. Lots of energy, cool designs, pretty girls, comic relief.

Now there are plenty of live action superhero shows and movies for people to watch, and for whatever reason the Sentai DNA doesn't appeal to a western mass audience.

Also robots. It came out during the lull in Transformers in the US between G1 and Beast Wars where there was nothing on tv except occasional G1 reruns and when Voltron had long gone off the air so anyone loving robots had the Zords to stoke their interest. These days every random shitty robot anime can be watched on Crunchy Roll and stuff like Gundam is pretty well known and has Gunpla popping up in stores.

Come to think of it around the time PR's starting losing steam is right around the time anime started becoming a thing over here.

>>22117293
The fighting and violence was a major thing. The rangers and monsters very clearly were kicking the shit out of each other with clear physical contact and sparks, never mind them smacking around the Putties. Meanwhile this was when Spiderman couldn't throw a punch and Wolverine just pointed his claws threatening at people. So that really was a kind of action violence people hadn't seen before. It didn't last either because the same parental groups that got everything toned down in the first place complained about PR which is why once they ran out of Zyuranger footage and started filming their own costume fight scenes the violence and contact notably took a nosedive.

>>22118143
>PR's starting losing steam is right around the time anime started becoming a thing over here.

When did PR lose steam for you? I remember loving both anime and PR at the same time because of sailor moon and DBZ and then pokemon. Hell before that I somehow saw galaxy Express 999

>>22118125
>and for whatever reason the Sentai DNA doesn't appeal to a western mass audience.
Because it was seen as campy when comparing it to the MCU or even the Nolan Batman movies. I know when I was in grade school, everybody loved Iron Man and Iron Man 2. Nobody I knew watched PR or at least admitted to it. I only watched some of it because it looked weird and intrigued me.

>>22118143
Yeah the anime explosion of the 2000's I think started to herald the decline of PR as a viable franchise. High-speed Internet and Youtube is what I think really nerfed it because casuals realized they were watching an Americanized rendition of a Japanese superhero show and probably felt insulted for not getting the "pure" thing like they were with more faithful anime dubs that we got on Toonami.

>>22118202
Not even insulted, really but in many cases, once Sentai was available weekly subbed, around the Magiranger era people would easily download and binge it or even watch it weekly and once Mystic Force was out, well they'd already seen most of in Magiranger and didn't want to watch it again with different civilian actors and the occasional reshot action scene. They'd rather move onto the next Sentai which was fresh and new. Rinse and repeat, especially once Power Rangers started taking two years for one show and most people that just were in it for the suits and tokusatsu style action scenes had no more need for Power Rangers.

>>22118222
That's my reason for only watching sentai. Why would I spend hours watching a series that reuses some of action sequences? I mean yeah, each PR season that corresponds to its respective sentai has a different storyline and cast, but it's kinda pointless when you've already seen the series that PR has to adapt from.

>>22118093
Yeah, but at the time Godzilla was more its own thing to US audiences. Colored heroes in spandex fighting monsters every week in live action was different from everything around it.

>>22118202
That's probably why it declined, but was more accepted in the early 90s. The early 90s kids still watched the 66 Batman show on reruns and other shitty live action stuff from the 70s like the Shazam show or Incredible Hulk tv show which had just as corny suits and effects and but took it seriously as their only superhero media to compare. There were the two Tim Burton Batman films that had recently come up but that was still not the standard. But by now kids have the MCU and Nolan Batman films to compare where either everything is super realistic looking, or it's cheesy but the actors are playing off it and making self aware jokes to let the audience in on the joke. They're not acting their hearts out at a silly looking rubber monster.

That's probably why PR gradually declined. Kids are used to different media now

>>22118735
>The early 90s kids still watched the 66 Batman show on reruns and other shitty live action stuff from the 70s like the Shazam show or Incredible Hulk tv show which had just as corny suits and effects and but took it seriously as their only superhero media to compare
My cousin gave me tapes of a show that was on FOX in the mid-90's called MANTIS. It was about this paralyzed scientist who developed an exo-skeleton that not only allows him to walk, but boosted his abilities to be able to fight crime. And since the main character was black and his backstory was that he got shot during the LA Riots of 1992, it actually explored the black community and urban problems in an organic manner and not the ham-fisted blame whitey message. It's amazing what people can do if they actually put effort back then.

>>22118826
I’ll always remember MANTIS for him being killed by an invisible T-Rex.

>>22118231
That's what the magic of old PR was, it took those action scenes and made something new around them, not just retelling the story with and English speaking cast.

>>22119733
This. When PR fired on all cylinders, it really gave a sense of scope or character that Sentai typically doesn’t. I love both, but every so often PR came up with something fantastic like Lord Zedd, Ransik, and a huge majority of In Space and Lost Galaxy.

>>22118735
Don't forget Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future

>>22119857
If there’s ever a show that deserved more praise and seasons, that was the one. It’s slept on so hard.

>>22119773
Like the war in Gokaiger where every team showed up, was done on a smaller scale years earlier in Countdown to Destruction.
And it didn't just have every ranger vs one foe, it had every ranger(available at least) vs every villain they hadn't killed, and THEY BUILT UP TO IT ORGANICALLY.

>>22119857
A show ahead of its time.

>>22119857
>>22119921
Super Force deserves love too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa-oiEuxZi4&list=PLpW49v0AbalVBsQYy-M49poLmHBhFmJMI&index=5

>>22119733
>>22119773
>>22120059
I get it guys, but I was too young to appreciate PR besides watching RPM (which I respect to this day) and bits of the MMPR redux and a little bit of Samurai. It's just that I can watch sentai and not bother with a US filtered rendition of something that racism prevents from being appreciated here. No other modern country takes footage from a pre-existing show and splices it to make another. This is something people used to make fun of Hong Kong, Turkey, and other places for doing back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

>>22115103
Give proof

>>22120448
Super Force was mediocre, but Captain Power was insanely well written and well plotted. “Ahead of its time” really is the best way to describe it.

Captain Power also had Japanese designers for the suits and everything as well as anime guys doing the VHS game footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMCQkS2oY6E

>>22113887
zoe robins got a main role in wheel of time. regardless of its quality that's big enough to also lead to more in the future

>>22113727
we need to check the alternate universe where amy adams stayed as Lightspeed pink.

>>22121248
Then she won't have the career she has now. Her agent made the right call

>>22119773
Yeah I don't really see it. For every cool PR character or villain Sentai has just as good and PR fucked up more good things Sentai had more often than not.

>>22121248
Does that mean she's the most successful out of the Neo-Saban/Hasbro actors? I heard that Camille Hyde got a role in some show back then.

>>22122840
Lord Zedd, Ransik, Mesogog, Trakeena/Deviot/Villamax, Astronema are all characters Sentai doesn’t have in terms of how memorable they are.

>>22122852
I could name some but I feel like we'll just never agree to anything since you seem dead set that all Sentai villains are forgettable

>>22122853
Yeah, the anon pushes way too hard about how PR is better than Sentai. I mean I agree with some points but acting like what PR did is leagues better is just exaggeration. Plus, it's all in the past. Current PR is incapable of doing that and at best they're gonna do nostalgiabait like they're already doing.

>>22122855
It's honestly funny, a long time ago we thought if any franchise will innovate itself, it's PR thanks to RPM but now look at Sentai going insane since Zenkaiger

>>22122855
>nostalgiabait like they're already doing.

The original villians weren't exactly very memorable for the bug nostalgia bait special either. 2 random MotWs but cyborgs. Cyborg Rita was OK I guess but no one gave shit that it was Alpha and Im still kind of bitter.

>>22122855
>Plus, it's all in the past.
Sledge, Scrozzle, and Void Queen were great and they were all recent, non-nostalgic villains.

>>22122984
Void Queen maybe, but Scrozzle and Sledge are far worse than who they replaced

>>22118202
>>22118222
Agreed on both counts. Saban era's my favorite out of the bunch, but it definitely benefited from the internet being in its infancy. If DOCSIS 3.0 and video upload sites were around in the 90s, not just PR but Saban in general would have a bigger challenge in relevancy. I always took the difference in internet quality as the big reason why Saban and their localizations only got a fraction of the hate 4kids got.

>>22122855
>Yeah, the anon pushes way too hard about how PR is better than Sentai.
I literally never said that. All I said was that there are certain pros in PR Sentai does not have. Also you write of examples as “in the past”, but you never stipulated that before.
You’re the one making it a “This good that bad” thing. I love both.

>>22122853
I never, ever said that either. I love villains like Radiguet, Dr. Bias, and Abrella, but Power Rangers has good villains Sentai doesn’t have too.
Tribalism is a hell of a drug.

All sentai villians are forgettable and Power Rangers is superior.

>>22122984
There is absolutely no way on earth that Scrozzle, Roxy and Blaze are better than Enter and Escape.

Sledge is enjoyable but the Deboss Soldiers were better than his crew.

>>22123884

Bandora-Started a crusade against Dinosaurs and humanity because her son was killed by a T-Rex and she called on the power of Satan to get her revenge. Satan corrupts her but she still has vague memories of her kid and hatred because of him which twists into her wanting to genocide all children. Despite this she's a stern but exasperated mom type to her minions.

Rita- Is evil because she just is and comes from a galaxy where everyone is evil. She's a shrieky stereo typically cranky bad guy who's always treating her minions like shit and calling them idiots just like the average Cartoon villain.

Yeah no. For all of Japan's cheesy acting and goofy shenanigans they at least can come up with better backstories to villains beyond they're just evil because they're bad guys. As a good writer once said, a good villain should think they're the hero of their own story because most people won't actively put such effort into something they believe is wrong.

>>22123919
I don't buy that villains should see themselves as the good guy. It is one way to write a villain for sure, but a villains can be just be bad and not care that they're being bad. It's just that they will need to be made compelling by means beyond their motivation, like a charismatic personality or competence. Sentai has plenty of villains that are le bad but are still fan favorites, like Radiguet.

>Bennett caused a massive schism in the fanbase
>PR fanbase is in flames over the least surprising person to be outed as a creep
meh

>>22124018
And that assumes the Hollywood strikes ever finish or Hasbro doesn't change it's tun in the meantime. Remember they lost interest in films and tv media in favor of games when the Dungeon and Dragon's film flopped but Baldur's Gate 3 became a top selling sensation.

They might just scrap the whole thing

>>22124085
>They might just scrap the whole thing

100% they will. Hasbro has no real money makers right now beyond Magic the Gathering, no way they are spending money on a show full of special effects on a property that hasn't performed well in years. MAYBE they would've weren't it for the strike, if only to follow upon Once and Always's momentum, but with the strike? No way. It'll be just the comics until those are silently cancelled too.

>>22123919
Not to defend the pleb you're responding to but let's not pretend there ain't a ton of Sentai and toku villains that aren't just evil. Black Cross, Iron Claw, Egos, Akudos Gill, the list goes on...

>>22124101
The funny thing is it doesn't even really matter how Cosmic Fury does. If it somehow does amazing it will just convince Hasbro to keep trying to milk the old continuity a little more, and if it does meh or bombs (which is more likely) they'll just decide nobody cares about PR anymore and dump it

>>22124003
>PR fanbase is in flames over the least surprising person to be outed as a creep
The fuck does Russell Brand have to do with PR?

>>22124503
He meant within the fandom, it's George Jr/Ranger Reviews

>>22124645
I was trying to be funny, but I had no idea. Usually I get drama forcibly thrown onto my feed. Glad I missed it.

>>22124645
I have never heard of that person and i do actively seek out reviews of power rangers material

>>22112523
Dino Thunder wasn't wacky.

>>22123911
They really fumbled Blaze and Roxy, but I think Scrozzle is great. The concept around them is cool in that they're an evil version of the typical PR setup. Right down to the two teenage rangers listening to an entity trapped in something with a robot sidekick.

>>22124107
akdos is widely reviled as a shit villain and the others are the first three sentai series villains ever from the 70s. that's not really a strong case.

>>22124085
Or if Netflix even still interested. I got a feeling that if the strikers do win, we'll be seeing a lot of projects getting cancelled at a scale that will make Netflix trigger happy seem tame

>>22115812
Almost all of the Samurai audience weren't alive when Wild Force aired. It wouldn't have mattered and ironically confuse them more if Samurai went out of its way to connect something to a season that was a decade old at the time.

>>22124814
They're probably thinking about using Dino Thunder using Abaranger's baseball episode for Lost and Found in Translation.

>>22118169
Not that anon, but I fell out of PR around the time Adult Swim aired FMA, Evangelion, Ghost in the Shell, s-CRY-ed, Eureka Seven.
>>22118202
My grade school did the same thing but with X-Files and Buffy. Everybody thought PR was a show for babies or wouldn't admit to watching it out loud, and we weren't even 9 yet.

>>22123919
And Bandora is played by a human actor, while modern Sentai villains are boring rubbersuits that might as well be the monsters of the week.

>>22125979
There's nothing wrong with the main villains being in rubber suits.
>it's bad that the villain is a monster looking monster because reasons

>>22124837
Radiguet, Basco, Enter and Long are popular Sentai villains that are pretty much fully evil without any sad backstory or greater good delusion.

>>22125996
More like they're just written the same and act the same because they're all rubbersuits monsters

>>22125996
Hard disagree. A human actor playing a villain means the villain can facially emote, act with their eyes, and demonstrate screen presence that you just don't get from a suit actor whose voice is ADR'd in later on. Don't get me wrong. I like some of the monster villains, but if you need a scene where the villains actually do something that's supposed to emotionally hit you, a guy who looks like a human committing a heinous act will have more of an impact than a rubber suit guy doing it.

I don't think a single rubber suit villain matches the fun in watching Yutaka HIrose make the smuggest face when beating the shit out of a Jetman or a Dairanger and then giving them a piercing glare.

>>22126022
But that's on the writers, not on the fact of them being rubber suits. Now, it's easier for villains to show a wider range of emotions with face actors, but camera angles and lighting can do a lot of work for rubber suit villains in that front as well.

>>22124645
I'd imagine all PR youtubers or whatever are weird sex pests if Linkara is anything to go by.

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Do you need some 20-30 somethings with skeletons in their closet (and attitude)?

>>22118156
>Meanwhile this was when Spiderman couldn't throw a punch and Wolverine just pointed his claws threatening at people.
But that connects to why PR stopped being as popular with kids, because then we got the Spider-Man and X-Men movies where Green Goblin guts himself with his own glider and Wolverine gets to violently stab enemies all the time. While PR never adapted to that.

>>22126033
Sometimes it's the juxtaposition of the unflinching monster expression with the suit actor's mannerisms and VA work that make it amazing. Gil looking like a man of true nobility only to devolve into pure impotent child rage, Rygog/Gynamo looking like some fierce mutant only to be an absolute pushover, Dolnero's stock gangster look unfolding into a man who's got a fair bit of honor that ends up biting him in the ass, the list goes on.

>>22126271
Yeah, the issue with PR is that most of the dub VAs aren't even trained VAs. Plus the Sentai side has the luxury of the SAs themselves working with the VAs during the recording

You guys think Hasbro and/or Netflix'll ever get desperate enough to have a Cobra Kai crossover besides the toys?

>>22126828
Honestly, I can see Hasbro trying to work out a deal for Cobra Kai's production team or at least their stunt/fight choreographers.

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>>22124003
What's funny is that him and another Power Rangers YouTuber cameo'd in the Hyperforce one-shot comic
I wonder if they're gonna change it for the trade now lol

>>22124645
Literally who

>>22126192
>Latza
That dude ended up being more successful than anyone from TGwtG and he was just their cringey orbiter when he started lol.

>>22124645
Keep that shit to twitter. I'm here because of all the autistic places to talk PR this is the most bearable. There's always /trash/ for twitter cap threads.

>>22126192
Power Rangers Mongo Force

>>22126264
>Why didn't the Saturday morning kids television show adapt to match the violence level of the grown up theatrically released action movies?

>>22127602
Not him but mate, Saturday Morning Cartoons accepted more and more violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FR-2ybEsus

>>22127152
>That dude ended up being more successful
What does he do now?
Latza might have been funny to laugh at, but he just seemed like a nice kid trying to be an internet star.

>>22126264
Power Ranger's violence had long been turned down by then anyway. And that was almost 10 years later.

>>22127602
>grown up
Anon, kids watched the Raimi and Singer movies. Those movies were marketed to kids. I remember commercials for the first 3 X-Men movies airing on Saturday Mornings.

>>22127772
Thing is there's a difference in standards between theatrical films and syndicated broadcast tv. Even if kids watch both tv is stricter because any kid could potentially tune to the channel and see stuff without parental supervision, where as to see a movie their parent has to take them to the movies and watch it with them

>>22127829
>Thing is there's a difference in standards between theatrical films and syndicated broadcast tv.
Barely, since those movies would later air on TV all the time through reruns.

Plus, plenty of kids were watching broadcast TV that was above their intended age rating like X-Files and Buffy. They shouldn't have, that episode of X-Files where Mulder and Scully meet the murder-incest family would've fucked a kid's head up for years, but they were.

>>22128189
>Sometimes some kids watched a more adult show, that means all shows should've been adult!
>The X-Files existed, so why weren't there any government conspiracies and gun fights and gory monster-inflicted deaths in Sesame Street, HMM?
You're an idiot, anon. Just because your parents didn't care what you watched when they plopped you down in front of the TV doesn't mean all families were like that. For fuck's sake, parents actually complained because Lord Zedd was too SCARY. Do you really think they would've been fine with PR doing something akin to Green Goblin getting skewered with his own glider?

>>22128284
I'm sorry you had a sheltered upbringing, but you're retarded if you think most kids weren't watching shit that wasn't meant for them. Simpsons was a show that was hugely popular with kids, and that wasn't meant for them at all. None of the kids at my school would admit to watching PR, let alone say it was scary. Just because some freak parents got mad that Zedd played with a snake once doesn't mean that was the popular consensus. Do you think every single kid listened to their parents and never turned on Fox during primetime? Get a hold of yourself.

How do we know a good amount of parents got mad about Zedd, and it wasn't just a few parents at most? We all know Haim thinks pirates and main characters arguing are too scary for PR's audience. Maybe it was an internal decision, and it snowballed into rumors of "PARENTS SCARED SHITLESS OF LORD ZEDD!" because it gave MMPR more street cred than it had.

>>22128322
It's not like the two are mutually exclusive. They could've gradually toned down Zedd due to all the flack they were already getting from the martial arts scenes, and fans misconstrued the reason.
I don't think that situation's ever been directly addressed by anyone behind the scenes at the time, so who knows.

Some guy said Voltron is the devil. Standards in America are way off.

https://youtu.be/IZlDuiePfFg

>>22128189
Raimi was 00s power rangers was 90s. It was a 90s thing, and it happened in the 80's with TMNT 1 which is why 2 was so bad. Parents let us punch pidgins like Spiderman in the 00s finally

>>22128562
Every popular kids' franchise will inevitably have a few crazy people call it evil or a bad influence on kids. It happened to Pokemon and Teletubbies, and nobody with a brain will seriously argue those are too scary for children. If you don't have at least one soccer mom or pastor calling you the devil, you're not a best-selling toy franchise yet.

>>22128371
>>22128322
American TV execs at the time literally had a fear that anything marketed to kids that shows something they can do will make the kid do the thing.
It's why the martial arts got flak initially and why a lot of shows at the time opted for energy weapons instead of actual guns

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>>22128609
Which is funny since you would figure most of those execs grew up watching Chuck Connors murder at least one guy every week.

Guys, trusted sources tell me that Power Rangers will populate the new Hasbro cinematic universe together with Transformers and G.I. Joe (already confirmed).

>>22129604
Gonna be hard to do that when Hasbro sold off their movie divisions to move into gaming

>>22128309
That doesn't really matter because kids weren't supposed to be watching that so if parents complained stuff on primetime blocks weren't kid appropriate the networks would say "well don't let your kids watch primetime then, it's not supposed to be aimed at them" which is different from an afternoon kids block aimed at kids where they are expected to control that kind of stuff because kids are supposed to be able to to watch that unsupervised.

With movies they have ratings for stuff like that. Spiderman and X-men were rated PG-13 so if some little kid tried to get in without parents the theater is supposed to stop them I know most don't, but that would be the defense if parents complained, to blame the theater for not checking their age before letting them in alone, and if a parent took them knowingly, well they rated it PG-13 so expect stuff like that.

>>22130241
>the theater is supposed to stop them
They only do that for R-rated movies. PG-13 is more a suggestion than a rule among theaters, while R is the one where they ask for an ID.

So we now know that Netflix Rangers will be a whole new canon

So place your bets as to whether
A. Cosmic Fury ends on a triumphant defeat of Zedd, ending the series on a high note
B. Cosmic Fury ending with the entirety of the timeline erased and reset, which would piss off fans

>>22131003
B because this is modern American entertainment and they will give us the fuck you ending where everything you loved is gone now forever and this new reboot stuff is the new true show

>>22131003
C. They don't even kill Zedd and he just got banished to the far corner of the universe, just for this sort of dialogue to happen
>Zedd may return one day, but we'll be ready. Because once a Ranger, always a Ranger

A way for them to open up possibilities for them to return one day, because I doubt Bennet and co don't have that sentiment

>>22131003
It ends with Billy having a happy gay marriage and everyone having a party.

>>22131003
>entirety of the timeline erased
This, because Bennett admitted the plan is to entirely abandon the old canon so they're gonna just erase it to make way for the YA reboot

With every Netflixism imaginable

>>22131003
They love doing B, but 5 years from now when the reboot is cancelled, if it's even made, they'll find a way to continue the old timeline out of sheer not having any other options.

>>22131209
Didn't they try and do that with Star Trek? Try and say the JJ flicks were Star Trek now, and that it's best to forget about Old Kirk, Picard, Sisko, ECT,?

>>22131003
I hope there's an option C where both can exist
Have the reboot TV show, and reboot the comics that follows Billy or Tommy (since you won't need JDF) form a new MMPR team to protect the planet sort of like Dino Thunder

>>22131003
They will defeat/banish Zedd and end the series. The eventual reboot, if it happens, will be its own AU thing without needing to actively erase the previous continuity, just in case they need to push an emergency nostalgia button.

>>22131228
No not as far as I remember. The JJ movies were the result of a timeline split that caused an alternate universe and Leonard Nimoy was there from the OG timeline to sort of give them their blessing. And the 2nd movie had a scene paying homage to him because he died around that time so despite everything there was some level of respect.

>>22131003
It'll be A, they have no idea how the reboot will go over so keeping that as its own separate universe like RPM and the movies is going to be necessary.

I wonder if the tone of Cosmic Fury will be closer to Once and Always. At least let the characters say "kill" and "die."

>>22131003
They're not gonna kill Zedd, it'd detract too much from MMPRwank to have this new team just beat the franchise's biggest villain that not even the iconic team couldn't defeat

Zedd's getting banished or returned to his timeline or something

>>22130241
stop children this is an R-rated film property

https://youtu.be/t800zKpOL_Y

>>22131003
They'll banish Zed in the same trash can Rita was in as a homage

>>22131442
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGsmzEaJFaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeOnNlSlcqI
Plenty of kids have been sneaking into R-rated movies long before Power Rangers was a thing, and it was a big enough open secret that toy companies knew and profited from it. PR fans don't know this because they had sheltered childhoods.

>>22131488
I winced, they can absolutely do this.

Are the boom studio comics any fun?

>>22131520
They are what you would get if the Twitter people who say PR needs to move away from its toku roots got to write the stories

>>22131520
I fell off around the end of Shattered Grid, but they were alright.
GGPR was better than the other book. Set before Tommy joined the team, so naturally less Tommywank.

>>22131520
It largely depends on what you're asking for and what specific comics you're reading
I dropped out of Darkest Hour for now

>>22132002
But yeah early GGPR is the Mighty Morphin formula done near perfectly

>>22131488

I culd totally see them do that, gives them a chance t bring him back in the future if needed.

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Is my memory failing me, or is this the only Turtle Zord?

>>22132954
Not a zord but a Ninja Power Sphere that turns into a mace

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>>22131003
As fun as it is being cynical about Hasbro and Netflix's plans, I can't imagine them completely nuking the canon like that. If it were more standalone like RPM, sure. But an anniversary season with major cameos?

They're going to end it in a way that feels conclusive while still leaving the door open for further adventures.

>>22132954
Samurai Pink's Zord was a turtle, but I can't blame anyone for forgetting that.

>>22132954
There was a zord made from metalhead + the Megazord in the TMNT crossover in the comics and the Gravezord had Tor parts.

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>>22133698
I'm still jonesing for a Gravezord model, and the fact that Hasbro is running the series into the ground and holds the right to the design(I guess), means that Bandai can't make a model kit for it.

Yes I know it's just Omegamon, but Omegamon is fucking awesome.

>>22114959
Ziggy and Dr K are like Tsukasa, they're theater people

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>>22133792
I feel the same way about the Dragon Thunderzord. It makes no sense whatsoever, but damn if the Thunder Megazord doesn't look good in the Dragonzord's color scheme.

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>>22135745
They're perfect for a $40ish model kit, easy to do since they don't need to transform.
Maybe they could go all out and make the Dino-White Tigerzord too.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cwvf_wCgGuU

ASJ seemed pretty calm for someone that's about to go to a hearing

>>22136584
Who's getting autographs from Dora the Explorer's VA? Wouldn't toddlers prefer a Dora doll over an autograph?

>>22136588
Who goes to convention of TV actors? Nostalgiafags

>>22112870
Oh get off it. You may not like the Zyuohger suits but don't pretend they look any less Rangery than Wild Force.

>>22112941
Then why do you care? You can watch Zyuohger right now if you want, and can buy the toys from ebay instead of waiting for Hasbro to make shitty versions. What do you really gain from a Zyuohger adaptation?

>>22136709
>What do you really gain from any Sentai adaptation?
NTA, but back then I used to think Power Rangers could pick up the slack of a bad Sentai season. Like, Ninninger was bad so I was hoping Ninja Steel would be better. It didn't. And tbf even if the Pr adaptation is better on paper, I still prefer watching Sentai despite the Sentai being underwhelming or bad, as in the case of Ryusoulger and Dino Fury.

>>22136709
But those Asian people speak a weird language and eat weird food.

>>22136709
Sic hiyahs, farts and minorities

>>22135828
I wisg we actually goy these in Zyu2, or at least toys. That Tigerzord cannon is my favourite. Also Space Titanus

>>22136798
PR is at it's best when it's going off the rails in which case it honestly doesn't matter what Sentai they pick because in the end the suits are all the same really. If you just want PR to adapt a show so you can see mostly the same thing with the Asian people stripped out then fuck off

>>22137437
That's why Im so disappointed with Hasbro. They have all the insane Reiwa things but they couldn't even do the Kyuranger suits because Hasbro was so cheap and didnt want to make a different mold for toys since it had some different bodytypes.

>>22137437
Nta but I want adaptations for toys of the rangers...but then Hasbro really dropped the ball on Lightning Collection and then the suits themselve in Cosmic Fury. And Go Busters already had figuarts. I was hoping they did good mecha because they have transformers but that didnt really happen as far as I know but I haven't really been following it much.

>another Simon Bennett controversy
We've known for over 3 years that this motherfucker doesn't give a shit about PR so why anyone listens to what he says is beyond me. You're just looking to get mad at this point.

why do people listen to a guy who doesn't work anymore anyway?

>>22136798
your post implies zyuoh is a bad season

>>22137114
They would've been Zyu3.

>>22137843
Because Entwistle hasn't said shit yet, and having a candid PR producer after years of showrunners staying silent outside of cons confuses the fandom.

And most of what he says is more true than PR fans will admit.

>>22137919
>And most of what he says is more true than PR fans will admit.

Honestly I think Bennett was somewhat right when he said the franchise should move beyond Tokusatsu if it wanted to become more succesful. Also, why are people so against the idea of Power Rangers going in a different direction, but praise Super Sentai for doing that?

>>22136709
Why does anyone want any Sentai adapted?

>>22138568
Can you explain what direction the franchise should move? I know Bennet won't entertain so I'll settle with you

>>22138568
What do you even mean by 'moving beyond tokusatsu' though? Because if you don't explain yourself no one even knows what you're really saying and can't talk to you. That's half the reason why people were so angry at the disussion Benett started.

>>22138568
If “moving beyond” means removing the suits and rubber monsters I’m not interested.

>>22138568
Yeah that 2017 movie sure was successful...

>>22138638
Just want Super Sentai then

>>22138646
watch*

>>22138646
Too bad, I also want to watch Power Rangers, Pooki,

How exactly do you move beyond Tokusatsu? Tacticool armor wearers vs bankrobbers or supervillains or something? Then you're not Power Rangers anymore you're just discount Marvel and DC

>>22137846
To be fair I don't personally like Zyuoh but I don't consider it bad. But the thing is, I feel like PR's job is to improve, and possibly improve or at least be on par even if the Sentai is good (closest example being in Space and Megaranger I guess). But they utterly failed, hence the answer of what do we really gain from adapting any Sentai season? Because it's been more than 10 years and there's more harm than good.

>>22138663
>it always wil
Entwistle-verse will be here before we know it

>>22138662
Zyuoh just needs Hasbro to fund a Minecraft collab. You may think I'm retarded but Sentai has a fucking Fortnite map

>>22138663
I hate to side with rebbin of all things, but Samurai’s most blatant issue was having no Japanese people. The entire thing is about samurai clans, yet their progeny turned into not-Asians. It made everything look embarrassing and weird.
The Bulk thing is stupid though.

>>22138671
That's why they're "taking it away from its tokusatsu roots"! :)

>>22138693
There's still someplace that you can do that anon :)
>>22136745

They aren't wrong. PR at it's core is because execs thought the suits and robots would be cool with kids but American audiences wouldn't identify with a bunch of Japanese people. It's hardly the first thing from that time period even the original Godzilla had to cut in an American character because otherwise they figured the post WW2 audiences would just laugh at the Japs getting killed by a giant dinosaur because fuck them they went to war with us. Disney had to cancel a whole fucking ride from the Japan Epcot pavillion because they were afraid it would trigger WW2 vets. Plus there was the whole being afraid Japan would break the US's economy in the 80s. You can't even say that wasn't the right call back then either.

But that was 40 fucking years ago (I know PR is only 30 but they'd been trying to make something like it with Sentai since the 80s). Most people that lived through WW2 are dead or senile and about to be, Japan's bubble burst and is no longer a threat to US agency, anime and Japanese culture is considered cool now and diversity in media is being shoveled down everyone's throats.

They don't butcher anime anymore to make everyone's names American, change Riceballs to donuts or sandwhiches and flip the driving scenes because little Timmy will have a meltdown if he sees something on tv that's not his Cheeseburger White Surburbia US culture, mostly because that culture is pretty much dying out anyway. If they really want to market Sentai's fightscenes but have to change the cast and story to be more American then there's no real way around it beyond saying American's are racist

>>22138568
>why are people so against the idea of Power Rangers going in a different direction
Well, see, it all depends on what people mean by "different direction." If by "going in a different direction" people mean "It should stop taking footage from a previously existing Sentai series and be 100% original," then sure, I agree with that. But if if by "going in a different direction" people mean "It should stop having the tokusatsu/Sentai aesthetic," then that's where I'm gonna have to fight you. The entire reason I fell in love with PR was because it looked like a mini Godzilla movie as an episodic TV show. A successor to Ultraman and Ultraman-type shows. If it looked like some generic Starship Troopers/Star Trek/Doctor Who sci-fi series I would not have given a single shit.

>>22138659
I can't find Benetts tweets anymore but basically it waa something like get rid of cheapness, cheesiness, campiness, rolecalls, spandex etc. Then when asked what PR has over toku he listed a bunch of toku conventions. It was fucking weird. Maybe someone else has screenshots.

I think people could agree on some stuff like making it a family show not just a kid show and increasing budget but I have no idea what he was going on about.

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>>22138697
>their abaranger reunion movie finally released and it's great
>dino thunder will never return
Just fucking kill me already

People don't seem to understand that, for better or for worse, Power Rangers looking exactly like Super Sentai (yes, obviously, because it takes its footage from it), is what Power Rangers IS. You can't take THAT out of Power Rangers and have it still be Power Rangers. Even if you upgraded it, like Batman going from the Adam West show to the Nolan trilogy, or Godzilla from the Showa series to the MonsterVerse, it would still need to have that same basic overall look. Batman and Godzilla may be "cool" and "badass" and "less cheap" looking now, but they're still recognizable as the characters they started out as. If you can't do that for Power Rangers, don't work on it.

>>22138568
As already said, it's the implications tacked onto the statement. 9 times out of 10 when people say they want to go in a different direction, they don't just mean going fully original. They mean forcing it into the MCU/DCEU/Star Wars mold in a desperate bid to compete, and that's the last thing PR needs to do to stay relevant.

It's maddening, because the franchise is perfectly capable of evolving while still keeping the elements that helped cultivate its identity for the past 30 years. Unfortunately there's still an enforced dichotomy between the franchise's Japanese roots and the expectations of the American general audience.

>>22138713
But that's cringe and I want to watch my grown ups in spandex in fighting in jackets woth muted colors and quipping so it's not cringe.

>>22138713
>Power Rangers looking exactly like Super Sentai (yes, obviously, because it takes its footage from it), is what Power Rangers IS. You can't take THAT out of Power Rangers and have it still be Power Rangers

The inherent problem is that Sentai has long stopped caring about their designs/concepts being compatible with the West [especially now that they have the Korean and Chinese markets] which does nothing but overall hurt Power Rangers. Originals are going to be more expensive at first but if they hit a stride, PR can start blooming creatively unless they go full ouroboros like the comics did.

>>22138846
That's what I'm saying, though. I'm all for Power Rangers coming up with new, original designs that don't originate from Super Sentai. But they should still look like something that could potentially come from Super Sentai, because that's what Power Rangers looks like.

>>22138846
>compatible with the West
What does this mean?

>>22138883
I assume that he means that character designs and themes from Sentai are more culturally Japanese than they had been previously and westerners wouldn't "get" those, which is obviously idiotic.

>>22138885
What exactly is culturally Japanese about King-Ohger, or even Zenkaiger?

>>22138883
Part of it was the recent lean into Sentai references that wouldn't work in PR that doesn't have context for most of them like how the villains in Kira were based on the Iron Cross Army from Goranger and all of the anniversary/merch materials in Zenkai/Donbros.

Another is the overall lower tolerance for kitsch in superhero media out west which has actually kept previous series from being adapted such as Toqger and Zyuohger. The Asian market is more willing to give it a chance but the West sees their designs and laughs them out of the room. There's also the less standard designs of Zenkaiger and DonBros, the latter's frankly jank use of CG never having a chance to fly out here.

>>22138893
Nothing particularly. It's just all retarded mewling from fanoids. It's almost like when Super Sentai stopped caring so much about what is or isn't "Super Sentai", the shows got way better. Power Rangers could learn something.

>>22138704
>If it looked like some generic Starship Troopers/Star Trek/Doctor Who sci-fi series I would not have given a single shit.
But they recycled Starship Trooper outfits, and In Space/Lost Galaxy absolutely had Star Trek in mind for the sets and original suits. In Space was my first season, I loved it, and it does look like some generic Star Trek ripoff when you get down to it. PR's always stolen from popular western media, unless you think RPM was all original and Guzelian never watched Mad Max or Terminator.

>>22138762
>It's maddening, because the franchise is perfectly capable of evolving
>evolving
In the last 14 years ever since the Neo-Saban era started, how has PR evolved? I agree with the show evolving throughout the post-Zordon era, but that was over two decades ago. That's ancient history to the target audience.

>>22138893
>What exactly is culturally Japanese about King-Ohger
The setup of the series is a pun on the kanji for king, 王 , having six branches or "legs" and extrapolating out from there. That and there's always been a culture of reverence for insects out in Japan that doesn't exactly have an analog elsewhere.

>>22138893
Everything about Zenkaiger is throwbacks or parodies of either other Japanese media, (Prince of Tennis, Delinquent school shows) or other Sentai stuff but mostly focused on pre PR shows. Zenkaiser himself is a throwback to to the old style Gorenger suits with the capes and big googly eyes to hide the eyeholes the stuntmen could see through his main rival is a throwback to the weird human head style Battle Fever J suits etc.

Most of the footage would need to be thrown out, as stuff like them using the power of Jetman to defeat a monster by creating a parody wedding scene that ends in a stabbing because that was Jetman's ending would not ever work in PR and they do stuff like that alot. They'd also have an issue with Twokaiser's sister being in the background of lots and lots of shots.

And that's ignoring the fact that if Hasbro is too fucking cheap to use the Kyuranger suits because they want to reuse figure mold's there's no way they could work with the drastically different suits of Zenkaiger. In fact that would also be an issue for Donbrothers, KingOhger and probably any other show in the future because Sentai is very specifically trying to move away from all the characters having the same suit in different colors type of design.

And Donbrothers has a whole other set of problems as well

>>22138899
>DonBros, the latter's frankly jank use of CG never having a chance to fly out here.

People put up over a decade of terrible CW superhero shows.

Why are we arguing about this again? Sentai adaptations are done, this is all just academic.

>>22138957
PR is done. Enjoy Cosmic Fury while it lasts

>>22138954
Because Arrow didn't start off by throwing shitty campy CGI characters at you. It gave you 2 seasons of pretending to be the Nolan Batman movies before going crazy. And nobody in those Arrowverse shows looked as shit as the black dog ranger or the pink flamingo ranger.

>>22138959
>this show with over 900 episodes is done. Enjoy it while it lasts
ok

>>22138957
I just think it's silly that Power Rangers fans seem to have such an immalleable view of what Power Rangers is or should be. At the end of the day >>22138959 is right.

at the end of the day, no one would give a shit what power rangers looked like if it was good

>>22138957
Because PR fans have been stuck reliving their childhoods and talking about out of date subjects for decades by this point. It's only natural.

Why do power rangers fans hate power rangers so much? Is it embarrassment about something they used to enjoy?

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>>22138981
Of course. Why else would they always be concerned with how childish it looks to other people or talk about how it used to be so cool and mature?

Why do Power Rangers fans still watch PR even if they don't like any of the recent seasons? You're on the internet. Go google "best martial arts movies" and go through that. Go watch Ip Man. Instead of wasting years of your life hoping PR might be good again, find something else to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGD9OFmxYXM

>>22138999
Did you enjoy the Neo Saban era?

The Sentai aesthetic was never the problem, the problem is that the season everyone gets shoved down their throat is the most "Saved by the Bell" series
If Lightspeed Rescue and Time Force were the standard for writing and focus instead of MMPR the series would have a better image even with the silly suits

>>22139006
You are the minority. Accept that or move on to Sentai.

>>22139008
>watch preschool show or watch other preschool show
Why can't I just watch a martial arts series aimed for adults instead? John Wick 4 was fun.

>>22138704
How do Starship Troopers and Doctor Who have similar aesthetics?

>>22138916
>>22139038

Sometimes I'm amazed at how bad people can misunderstand what people say over the internet.

>>22138923
We had an entire team of america Samurai with kanji on their face and Spidermanis one of the most popular in the world. Kings are European. What the fuck is this cope?

>>22139151
We misunderstand because you're bad at explaining this.

>>22138965
>47 years of being virtuallythe same in Japan
>30 years of beingvirtually the same in America until now meanwhile every other thing everyone loves got changed for the worse

That's why

>>22139184
I'm not him

>>22139151
>Sometimes I'm amazed when a guy asks a question

>>22139206
You're doing it again and I continue to be amazed.

>>22139209
Seek help, anon. You're not well.

>>22139213
Just because I have reading comprehension doesn't mean I need help.

>>22139222
>I have reading comprehension
Lying isn't good, anon.

>>22139222
Thread's already maxxed out, anon. You came here too late to ruin it with your stupid shit.

>>22139038
Anon, you don't seem too bright, so here's some help: the other poster wasn't saying that Starship Troopers and Doctor Who looked like each other, but that they had in common the fact of looking different from Super Sentai (and toku in general). Those shows were listed, alongside Trek, as examples of different aesthetics for sci-fi series, that the poster in question didn't want PR to attempt to imitate in an effort at being "serious."

Your question missed the point being discussed and exhibited even a serious reading comprehension difficulty from you because absolutely no normal person can read that post and conclude that it's being stated or implied that Starship Troopers and Doctor Who look like each other.

>>22139231
>didn't want PR to attempt to imitate in an effort at being "serious."
You've never watched PR if you think it doesn't try to imitate other shows, and noticeably appear to have forgotten or ignored Lost Galaxy, a series that takes props, imagery, and plot beats from Starship Troopers. The truth is that Power Rangers has already previously tried to stray away from looking different from Sentai and emulate other established sci-fi franchises, and you are assuming this hasn't happened before.

>>22139038
He’s not saying they look the same, he’s citing very different approaches to sci-fi that would’ve cause PR to be a different animal if it mimicked them.

>>22139239
>Plot beats
That’s just outright incorrect.
In terms of props yes, it uses some stuff like the military uniforms. But the spandex, monsters, and robots are Sentai or PR exclusive. Having some background details doesn’t mean it’s the same thing.

>>22139318
>That’s just outright incorrect.
It's about young adults, several of whom join the military, going out into space to fight villains who theme themselves around giant bugs. It was absolutely Starship Troopesr.

>>22138999
Because they're just like Robotech fans. Instead of moving onto other things like you're reasonably suggesting, they still have this fixation like a crack addict looking for their next hit.

I don't even hate on Power Rangers even though I only watched RPM in its entirety (fucking loved it despite the goofy-looking Zords). I view it as an interesting relic of Americanizing a Japanese concept. But at this point, I think it should be mercifully axed. There's no point to it anymore. Little kids aren't its main focus so much as ass-blasted manchildren who argue over what truly is or isn't PR.

I've been on a retro martial arts movie binge. Go watch Wheels on Meals; it's a great Jackie Chan & Sammo Hung flick set in Spain. The fight between Jackie and kickboxing champ Benny Urquidez in the castle is stellar as fuck.
Ninja in the Dragon's Den is also a good watch for Hiroyuki Sanada and the whole Japanese/Chinese cultural clash and collaboration.

>>22139000
From what I've gleamed online, a lot of PR fans were divided over the Neo Saban stuff. They were originally excited that Saban bought back the franchise and that he'd rework the same magic that MMPR did. The fact that Samurai was blatantly rehashing the same lines and plot elements from Shinkenger and the whole "Caucasian Only" casting for the Red Ranger is what really marred it. I saw parts of Samurai and it was such a letdown compared to RPM.

>>22139006
>If Lightspeed Rescue and Time Force were the standard for writing and focus instead of MMPR the series would have a better image even with the silly suits
Yes it would've. But then PR wouldn't be recycling the sentai spandex suits or Zords. They'd look something like A-Squad from SPD or much closer to US aesthetics of what power armor is like the afore-mentioned Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future. If they built a series from scratch without anything from sentai, I could respect it for its own merits, but of course, the whole argument about "It's all about saving money to produce it by splicing sentai" is what PR pundits like to screech.

>>22121238
I noticed that a LOT when looking back at my favorite cartoons that were made in the 80's and 90's. I never understood the stereotype that Japanese aren't inventive of creative. The US has taken to heart a lot of Japanese concepts and designs despite most people not realizing Japan was responsible for it.

Power Rangers is a prime example of this because if you took away the sentai costumes, the Monster designs, the vehicles and mecha; you take away the definitive elements that attracted viewers to PR seasons. Heroes in colorful costumes with flashy weapons and martial arts sequences battling grunts and MOTW with finishing moves (a staple of Japanese fiction) with a giant gestalt robot.

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>>22139541
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In something out of a nightmare, Tommy comes face to face with pure evil and watches in horror as the unthinkable happens to his friends…
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>>22139544
THEY'RE BEING ASSAULTED BY BFTG PALETE SWAPS

>>22139544
BOOM PLEASE STOP EVERYTIME YOU MAKE AN OC DONUT STEAL MY LIFEFORCE FALLS OUT

YOU TOOK AWAY THEIR LIPS

>>22139345
>It's about young adults, several of whom join the military, going out into space to fight villains who theme themselves around giant bugs
They didn’t leave earth to “fight bugs”. They left earth to seek out a new colony and Scorpius’ army actively followed them. The on-base military was specifically a defensive measure to ensure safe passage to the target world.
Also, the inly “bugs” were Scorpius, Trakeena, and the Stingwingers that Scorpio’s confirms are their race. Every other monster and general is amassed from every corner of a distant galaxy. There’s no other bugs in the show.
Also, Starship Troopers was about a propagandist society pushing a war against bugs in a satire of politics and science fiction, with the protags all being military people. Lost Galaxy was about 5 people from different backgrounds (only 1 actually in their military, then 2 out of 6) finding an ancient power that they use to ensure the safety of a ship full of people while fighting off an army that wants the power themselves. There’s nothing outside of the costume and bugs existing that would imply watching Lost Galaxy is a similar experience to watching Starship Troopers.

>>22139544
>More bad Rangers
Ugh. Boom sucks.

>>22138916
>they recycled Starship Trooper outfits
As generic space soldiers, not as the Rangers themselves.

>>22138916
>In Space/Lost Galaxy absolutely had Star Trek in mind for the sets and original suits. In Space was my first season, I loved it, and it does look like some generic Star Trek ripoff when you get down to it. PR's always stolen from popular western media, unless you think RPM was all original and Guzelian never watched Mad Max or Terminator.
>>22139239
>You've never watched PR if you think it doesn't try to imitate other shows, and noticeably appear to have forgotten or ignored Lost Galaxy, a series that takes props, imagery, and plot beats from Starship Troopers.
Of course Power Rangers has taken inspiration from and tried to imitate other franchises, but in the meanwhile, they've also been Power Rangers. They've had Super Sentai-style Ranger suits, Zords, rubber suit monsters, etc. What I'm saying is imagine all the Starship Troopers/Star Trek/Mad Max/etc "inspiration" WITHOUT all the Super Sentai-style stuff. Imagine the Starship Troopers soldier outfits as THE RANGERS, because it's more "badass" or "realistic" or whatever than spandex and helmets. THAT is what I don't want to see.

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>>22139991
Here's Tommy's Master Morpher

>>22140002
I wonder if they fixed the Coins because that gold actually looks half decent compared to the mud yellow Coins we saw before, or if that's just for the front of the box.

>>22140002
>unless you have a master morpher, you're nothing but a cheap copy

Now you too can be the real deal!

Why are you guys the least horny out of the other toku generals?

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>>22140089
Oh, I'm sorry. Here.

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>>22140175
>>22140178

>>22139006
This.

>>22138920
Yeah, maybe that was poor phrasing. I meant that there's no reason Power Rangers can't grow while maintaining a tone closer to what was cultivated up until RPM. But again, we're stuck in the aforementioned dichotomy, with everything being blamed except the actual issue.

>>22138999
We move onto Super Sentai. But that doesn't mean we can't hope PR will be good again.

>>22139008
He's not wrong. Which is obvious because the show got popular in the first place. So what the fuck are you on about?

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>>22140175
>>22140178
>>22140180
based

>>22139991
What sucks, is the show design is so fucking good.

>>22140018
It was at Pulsecon and they look the same, they just altered the promo pictures to trick people lol

>>22139874
How many is that now? It's worse than evil Superman at this point.

>Kiramager have crystal cars
>but will never be adapted into a fusion of Zeo and Turbo

>Donbrothers was inspired by VR googles
>It will never be adapted as VR Trooper sequel but as Power Rangers

>KingOhger is king bugs
>but will never be adapted as a Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog/Big Bad Beetleborgs sequel with Masked Rider and Lost Galaxy shit showing up with the alien bugs at the halfway point

I know I'm the only one who wants this but still.

>>22140977
If you can count on Boom for anything it’s
>Rangers but bad on repeat
>Tommywank
>Ritawank
>Treating Zedd like garbage
>Giving backstory to things that no one asked or cared for

>>22141053
>Jason, Zack, and Trini-wank
>Lazy and nonsensical Zord combinations
>Keeping Scorpina in the Coinless dimension
>Apocalypse-level threat after apocalypse-level threat
>Comic-original characters, both good and evil, that take focus away from the TV show characters that are the entire reason you're reading the comic