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Monarch:Legacy of Monsters teaser Edition:
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Monarch:Legacy of Monsters teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec27RCzb6qI
Godzilla Minus One trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7DqccP1Q_4
Gamera: Rebirth now on Netflix
https://www.netflix.com/title/81087387
Godzilla: Singular Point Season 2 Hinted
https://twitter.com/EnJoeToh/status/1683998068855963651
Cloverfield Sequel Slusho site (hasn't updated since earlier this year but keep an eye on it)
https://slusho.com/
Kaiju No. 8 second trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ljNZsBOxE
Hoshi35 trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9f51_cgXxo
Bullbuster trailer
https://youtu.be/r2lw0KHgAok?si=oFMQ206Pq11UfZkD
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>>22110546
I’m just asking for more fight time generally speaking. Give them more time to smash the area around them to bits when they fight
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>>22110623
Anon, that would require a pretty decent budget just for those changes alone. I know people would've loved to see more of Viras etc, but it'd really hurt the pacing of the show, especially with how long each episode already is. Maybe in a sequel, if it manages to earn one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baMFh69gp98
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>>22110748
This is exactly what I wanted out of 2014. Crazy how some fan channel got it right.
Also it sucks because the Gryphon was such a great unused monster. Way better than the MUTO.
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>>22110557
>First Cloverfield was a hit and set up a lot of possibilities
>Second movie was a bait and switch with no connection
>Third movie was another bait and switch with only the last 5 seconds connecting it to the first one
>15 years later we’re going to totally make a sequel guys we swear
It’s amazing how much wasted potential the whole thing was.
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>>22110782
Tbh I don't think Cloverfield is that good or had that much actual potential. We all just latched onto it back in the day because the genre was in a massive drought. Pacific Rim was way better at being what a western kaiju movie should be. Now we got the monsterverse, Japanese Godzilla projects are coming in steady, Ultraman is steady, Gamera is somehow not dead. I don't weep for the loss of Cloverfield.
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Godzilla should do more with Shin stuff or make things similar to the Shin version.
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>>22110557
>Going to have time travel Godzilla movie soon

Yeah, i know its been done before funny enough.
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>godzilla did 9/11
Based
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>>22110854
I think Cloverfield had plenty of potential. The types of approaches, each film expanding and giving you a bit more about what happened, the Slusho thing, there was definitely something there.
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>>22111524
>>22110854
>>22110782
If they do a real sequel, I'd like them to really try and lean into making Clover "The American Godzilla." I mean, all the elements are there. Esoteric sci-fi, aliens, giant monsters, and so on.
Give Clover a fight that we get to watch clips of over social media, reveal that aliens are behind it via ARG, it'd be an amazing multimedia project
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn5OFpkcxBs
When are we getting him in something?
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>>22110658
I mean, they did it for Berserk 2016. It can't be that hard to just animate 7 to 10 minutes of monster fighting and that be the end of it
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I still prefer Gamera's Heisei origin/behavior the most because it's vague enough that he feels like a genuine deity rather than simply a man-made monster
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What the fuck is with Gamera's new theme music. I swear I've heard it in a commercial for something.
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Season 2 wishlist. Go
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>>22111952
He's a weapon, why not
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I can't read
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>>22112304
It's stats.
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>>22112304
- Right: Gamera Rebirth, 60 meters, 800 tons
- Left: Godzilla Earth, 3000 meters, 15 tons
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>>22112214
>Barugon arrives with a taste for Iphones
>Gamera must defend some monster hatchlings because they're not bad
>Legion is literally just an alien killing machine who makes Viras look like a minor disaster by comparison
>Zanon shows up as a time-manipulating alien who forces events to replay
>Gamera's severed hand regrows a whole body and becomes Trauma Gamera
>Iris is a collection of all of Gamera's failures against him
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>>22112498
I'd just love Garasharp and the Mushroom guy. But I don't know if I should expect much from the monsters. Even though Garasharp was invented in the 90s the storyline sounds like something that would be perfect for the ending of Showa Gamera (ignoring Super Monster) with Gamera actually adopting kaiju babies. I doubt something like that would happen in a hypothetical season 2. The routine was pretty rigid. Would Barugon became something like an enemy turned ally for Gamera? Also doubtful.
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>>22112507
Barugon should be intentionally weird and hard to understand. Like, it doesn't hunger for humans, it wants the phones
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>OMG IS THAT THE NEWEST G-PHONE?! I LOOOVE BEING UP ON THE NEWEST TECH!
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>>22112574
You jest, but Barugon literally projecting it's thoughts through social media would be freakish. Like, Kairo freakish
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>>22112574
Brothers gonna wake up hungry as hell and all the delicious Orylium is now scattered around in all these peoples pockets.
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>>22112574
>>22112557
>Gamera is about to get got by Barugon.
>He's on all fours. His shell lights up. and...flips up?
>Gamera's back...
His shell moves plates around...a screen now pulses with green...
>A flip phone!?
>Banishing...Coverage!
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>>22112610
I'd say that he should be a naturally occurring monster just to muddy the waters a bit
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>>22112611
Kek
>Gamera literally weaponizes cancel culture
>Everyone is supporting Barugon because LE HECKIN' LGBT
The idea of Barugon doing shit with radio signals is cool
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>>22112612
What if he is, orylium is just fuckin real tasty to him, giga Chad caused the downfall of the ancients just being a hungry boy
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>>22112641
Yep
>He ate all our shit so we made monsters to try and kill him
>We think it worked but now we have monster-making tech so fuck it
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>>22111733
You could also really do something with the Slusho concept instead of cryptic websites. Even put one of the movies in the perspective of a low end Slusho worker realizing that they’re actually fucking with forces beyond their control.
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>>22112652
Yeah, that's 100% doable. The question is "Does Clover have any powers?"
The manga implies supernatural reasons.
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If they do a season 2, should they change Gamera's design? Because picrel is my favorite design of his
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>>22112667
I could see it as someone figuring out during an attack that there is a huge coverup from the Slusho company because some sort of expedition or experiment went backwards, but the information unravels over time and the pro tags are avoiding Clover and the parasites. Sort of like a crime mystery thriller film with monsters.
Then a pretty cool twist could’ve been At the end it’s revealed that this Clover attack and the Clover attack in NYC were happening at the same time. There’s multiple Clovers, and the protags realize that the apocalypse is already here. The big conspiracy they unraveled means nothing now because there’s a bunch of rampaging Clovers and nothing is stopping them.
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>>22112706
The manga isn't canon though
And we already know the Monster woke up because they was drilling in the atlantic ocean looking for stuff they use in those drinks
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>>22112807
Here’s a better question: If Clover fights another monster what the hell is it gonna be?
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>>22112807
I didn’t mention the manga, and I don’t care about it or supplemental material. They should’ve not blown their load on stupid websites and kept the mystery for a sequel.
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>>22112848
A deep sea creature that emphasizes the ridiculous size of Clover, like the squids to C-Rex in the animated Godzilla show.
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>>22112507
If Gamera does get an ally, you know what?
There’s only one who can fill that role
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>>22112856
Now here’s a better question:
Should Clover have powers?
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>>22112852
>disregarding the ARG.
You completely miss the entire appeal of the series to begin with dumbo.
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>>22112907
Awesome ARG lore can't save a movie from being mediocre, just look at Brad Bird's Tomorrowland movie.
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>>22112920
>is now calling it mediocre
Why are you even bothering to talk about it then?
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>>22112929
Not that same anon. I'm just agreeing with that "Maybe actually put Slusho stuff in the actual movie instead of just using it as mystery box fluff" sentiment since that's what happened to most of Tomorrowland's "Walt Disney was part of the conspiracy" stuff.
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>>22112907
>Two shit movies
>B-but the website!
Fuck off, JJ
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>>22112942
Slusho is only a small subsidiary of Tagruato
Is anyone going to actually discuss Legacy of Monsters teaser or not?
>>22112950
>rat opinion trying to act like he isn’t a spongebob agent
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>>22112498
>>22112507
The monster hatchlings should be Monga, Garasharp siblings, and Marukobukarappa, who despite coming from different species have a sibling like bond due to all losing their parents.
Unfortunately aliens want to exploit the babies, using an army of biomechanical monsters to try and capture them, and it’s up to Gamera to protect them. So we get small scale battles where the babies fight against ground troops with cunning pluckiness and a bit of monster power while Gamera takes on the big boys in big fights
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>>22112952
>Maybe if I type nonsense he’ll think I have a point
Bravo. Way to defend two dogshit movies over a stupid muh lore website.
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>Monarch teaser released
>literally no one here talking about it
Did Gamera actually BTFO Godzilla and the Monsterverse?
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>>22112968
>he thinks im actually talking about the other movies
Nigga you fucking retarded
If you actually read you would know im talking about the first movie faggot
Go back to watching your vs film heisei godzillaslop if you dont give a shit about the story of the film fag.
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>>22112977
There’s not much to say. It looks good but we’re limited.

>>22112992
So basically your sperg out is based on your lack of reading comprehension. Because you’re arguing something I wasn’t talking about.
>Go back to watching your vs film heisei godzillaslop if you dont give a shit about the story of the film fag.
You’re so butthurt that you just said a bunch of shit that makes no sense. I never even mentioned Heisei.
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>>22113020
>The Retard who couldnt even tell i was talking about the first movie is saying IM the one who has no reading comprehension
KEK you're the faggot who's argueing about something i'm not talking about get the fuck out last thread went over better because there was no retards like you shitting it up.
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>>22113029
You sperged out over what I said, idiot. You don’t get to cry in response then go “NUH UH I MEANT SOMETHING ELSE”.
Not to mention your posts already border on schizophrenic bringing up SpongeBob and Heisei.
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>>22113034
Not my fault you cant read negro fuck off with the spam >>>/trash/
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>>22112977
Yes? No? Maybeee?
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I honestly hate Rebirth Gamera’s origin story. It does away with a lot of the mysticism and mystery behind him and makes him “Just another monster.”
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>>22113040
>Make schizophrenic tier comments
>Argue about some imaginary point that has nothing to do with anything
>Y-YOU CAN’T READ
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>>22113065
>thinks i was talking about the other two cloverfield movies but was talking about the first
>retard comes in screaching about it
>prove him wrong
>accuses me of backpeddling despite talking about the first movie the entire time
Not my fault you're mother drinked and smoked when she was pregnant fuckhead
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We got the full 2015 Gamera design.
To be honest I like it more than Rebirth’s if only because he doesn’t have that stupid detached plastron
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>>22113118
That isnt the 2015 design thats just an actual model of rebirth gamera the giant arms are a dead giveaway
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>>22113122
No, it’s the 2015 design.
>Smaller yellow eyes
>Giant claws
>Less digitigrade feet
>None of the limb armor
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>>22113129
Did you get the image from somebody japanese or what, where is it from.
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>>22111952
>The last thing Guiron hears before he dies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2kj0zXoLI
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>>22113072
>More babbling with no point
>I WON MY ARGUMENT NO ONE WAS APART OF
Ok anon, enjoy your kingdom of dirt.
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>>22112977
You wish. Although I doubt that even without it Rebirth would be doing much better.
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Another GXK test screening. Maybe there will be more leaks. What I hear is too vague to worry just yet but I always think of the worst case scenario.
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>>22110782
There’s a reason for this. Bad Robot bought some unused scripts with potential and did some edits to make it somewhat connect with the original film.
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>>22113590
Reposting a leak, Not mine just reposting.

>Shimu and Doug are both related to Godzilla.
>Doug being the natural form of a "Godzilla".
>Shimu is the first Titan and first "Godzilla", it's offspring continued the Godzilla line, but Shimu continued to evolve until his current form.

>A meteor containing an unknown element crashed into the Earth millions of years ago, which changed the Hollow Earth and created the Titans, first being Shimu, the Godzilla who ate a star.

>The crystal on Skar King's whip used to command Shimu admits a primordial form of Hollow Earth energy. Shimu can only use this type of energy to survive and willingly takes commands from Skar King in order to get it.

>Godzilla's design changes from each movie are explained as him being mutated but modern nuclear radiation, but once exposed to the primordial Hollow Earth energy in Shimu's lair, he starts to "Evolve" back into a more natural form.

Continued in next post.
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>>22111884
The scene at the beginning of the third film, when a submarine stumbled upon a massive grave of dead Gamera’s is still extremely haunting. Both the idea of an army of Gamera’s and the fact that only one managed to survive just adds to it.
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I thought GxK was supposed to be the return to the previous arrangement of Godzilla and humanity getting closer and coexisting much more peacefully and Godzilla assuming more of his role as the guardian.
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>>22113636
>Godzilla's evolved form is a beefier G14 design with larger hands, resized head(No more pin head) and different spines and spikes on body.

>Skar King is the equivalent to Shimu, but for Kong. He's super old and tactical, no powers other than just his intelligence, speed, reach(Longer arms) and his whip weapon.

>Skar King also commands a group of surviving Kongs including a young adolescent Kong named Suko, whom rejects Skar King for Kong.

>Kong gets a robotic brace for his arm after suffering severe nerve damage and frost bite during his mauling by Shimu.

>Mothra replaced a new generic bird titan, her wings are more bird like and she resembles a phoenix including fire/heat powers.

>Shimu breaks free from Skar King's command and begins to start another Ice Age by blacking out the sky with a black hole caused by a storm.

>Kong rematches Skar King, Godzilla and Mothra take on Shimu.
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>>22113664
Oh now there's Mothra thrown into the mix. Now I know this is the current version I wonder what I'll hear next time.
But I honestly would like to see Mothra again and I hope she's bigger and stronger this time. Her presence makes Godzilla a less lonely figure to balance out Kong getting all the attention from everyone. Someone teased that we may see that unmade epilogue showing her hatching.
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>>22113672
It's likely Mothra can change body shape to some degree between incarnations.
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>>22113664
>a new generic bird titan, her wings are more bird like and she resembles a phoenix including fire/heat powers.
>its farking rodan

KINO IS BACK
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>>22113695
It would just sound like Mothra decided to look more bird-like for her next incarnation that's it. Godzilla will have his "you changed your hair" moment.
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>>22113700
>Mothra changes her hair for her next date with Goji
They should marry already.
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It kills me, and I know at least some of you fuckers lurk in these threads, when MV Godzilla gets criticized for I guess not being like Godzilla Earth but also how Gamera "does it better" because apparently he doesn't have to be like Godzilla Earth? A lot of mental gymnastics just to reveal your bias.
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>>22113703
The way they function if they care at all they have been for maybe millions of years. It's all about being cosmic counterparts.
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>>22113721
I could see it being rooted in genuine care and not just about being cosmic partners with the way they interact. It's in his eyes.
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Hopefully mothra don't die again
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>>22113733
It happens and they're used to it. As long as her egg isn't destroyed as well she will return.
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>Godzilla
Not /m/.
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What a bitch lmao
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Apparently the fights were going to be twice as long in Rebirth but they had to edit them down
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>>22113716
It’s actually pretty simple: Gamera doesn’t fight for a “Balance.” He fights to protect the world rather than actively try to influence or change it himself.
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>>22113634
Which was really, really stupid.
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New poster. Sexcellent
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>>22114470
I like Trilogy Gyaos, but I hate that scrawny Gyaos is now the default.
I miss giant vampire bat Gyaos from Showa.
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>>22113641
Like, he goes from a bioweapon to something a lot more esoteric. There’s something almost divine about him in a sense.
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>>22114447
Only Godzilla Earth wants to change the ecosystem around him like he's the master of all creation. Legendary Godzilla wants balance which means the preservation of the conditions that allow life to thrive unthreatened. It's an objective good. And one that although gets namedroped the most in connection with MV Godzilla it's what all good monsters fight for unless they're tied to more specific group of people like King Caesar. Arguably Kong and Showa Mothra before they went more "global".
It's maybe true for Gamera as well but sometimes it's all over the place. But I did notice horrible misjustice and double standards coming from the same people. Legendary Godzilla can't be good because he simultaneously
>doesn't go all out and destroy everything especially le scary billionaires (because media we consume are to scared to name specific countries), turn humans into cavemen, destroy their cities and sources of energy
>doesn't babysit humans or take their kids to the amusment parks
Gamera is excused from "only" defending the world from monsters because spineless hypocrites don't need standards.
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>>22114506
Legendary Godzilla doesn't need to go all out as much since Titans naturally cancel out climate change by just vibing on the surface or something.
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>>22114524
People are just pissy that Godzilla doesn't demolish le scary capitalism or whatever is their juvenile boogeyman of the day. He also tells his monsters what they have to do and as a result nature is literally healing. If they expect Godzilla to be their private army then he would tell them to take care of their own damn mess if they care so much. Earth would survive even after humans erradicate themselves. Godzilla wouldn't even have to do anything against anthropogenic mass extinction but he still does because he cares about having a lot of birds flying around.
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>>22114506
Legendary actively tries to keep order in his world. Gamera is only even awake when there’s a crisis
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>>22114447
MV Godzilla doesn’t actively try to change or influence the ecosystem, he tries to keep it in check. He has only been active against
>His natural enemy that in turn could cause a nuclear fallout
>An invasive species from space
>Titans that we’re awaken by the invasive species (and ended up going back to sleep)
>An energy signal that he believed to be the same space invader
>Another alpha, after he just dealt with one that almost threw the planet out of whack and who he thought returned
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So what’s the difference?
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>rebirth premiered in ninth place in Japan
Is this good or bad? It’s not in the top ten anywhere else
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>>22114506
Gamera fans are massive hypocrites at all times, anon. Godzilla always has super high standards that fans will nitpick the hell out of, but Gamera supposedly “has the better movies” while at the same time any sort of criticism is brushed aside with “you can’t expect too much, he’s Gamera after all”
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>>22114651
This can only be resolved via a literal dick measuring contest.
But if not then Godzilla believes in order and hierarchy. I see Gamera as a more blunt entity that is similar to Battra. With little that we can call a life outside of his mission. Godzilla is like a lizard war veteran.
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>>22114629
Pretty sure GxK is going to reveal that Godzilla attacked Kong because of a member of his species starting the conflict and nearly destroying the world. Still a bit shit because he allowed MUTO, the mortal enemy of his species, to live in peace but maybe the same "flexibility" is what made him spare Kong in the end.
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>>22114764
I honestly consider the 90s Gamera movies to be garbage. The 90s Godzilla movies are better just because
>They have better monster fights
>They have a cooler world
All the cool effects in the world can’t save poor fight choreography
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god i feel bad i had to do this but i did not properly watch gamera rebirth, this is the first time i've ever given in to the degeneracy of speedwatching because the character cg was that physically uncomfortable to sit through when it wasn't the monster fights. i really would have preferred to experience all the actual exposition scenes and whatnot and get closer to the characters but jesus i just could not in this case and i ended up only watching the monster scenes. hell my fourth rewatch of shin godzilla was originally only going to be a recap of shin's scenes but i ended up wanting to see everything again, so it's not like i'm categorically uninterested in the talking parts
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>>22114734
Not bad actually for someone whose known as Godzilla’s competitor
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>>22114792
I prefer the idea that it’s because Kong was an alpha, or that his species were typically alpha, not because of the war they had. It would also work well with the MUTO thing, because it would show that he doesn’t give a shit about anything except everyone staying in line.
The way it was presented in GvK felt to me like
>Greatest enemy who almost doomed the world is “alive”, so Godzilla goes nuts
>Then he senses yet another alpha, probably a familiar sense due to the war thing
>Decides all bets are off before shit hits the fan again
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>>22114916
Doesn't sound that great It's a new release. But it only registered in Japan so they still like monsters there.
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>>22114907
You're kinda missing out because the human characters in Rebirth are pretty well-done for the most part
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>>22114948
Maybe next time they won’t make the animation look so horrendous.
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>>22114980
I mean, the director said he has enough ideas to fill 5 seasons
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>>22114983
But it still has to be a success
>only makes top ten in Japan
>9th place for a brand new show
Yeah
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>>22114973
that just makes it all the more a shame because in virtually all other cases i would absolulely have wanted to see all such scenes, and i tend not to be the sort to kneejerk meltdown at the slightest sight of cg, but this series really managed to do what i never would have expected with how uncomfortable i felt with the humans' cg. this production unfortunately reeks of all the problems of the current production committee system and it's no wonder with kusokawa being at the helm
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>>22112898
Its sheer size probably already qualifies.
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>>22114651
MV Godzilla does it because it's his self-appointed duty to protect the world. He wasn't made or chosen for it - he acts as the world's guardian because he (and Mothra) are the only ones willing and able to do it.

Gamera exists solely to protect the planet and nothing else. He doesn't really have a life or existence beyond that. He doesn't have a Mothra to spend the eons with when the world isn't in crisis. He exists to stop the apocalypse, then go straight back to dormancy until the next one.
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>>22115146
Dammit, what would be a success?
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>>22115181
People act like Godzilla is some tormented victim, and he is, but has anyone ever considered how fucked up Gamera must be?
His most emotionally stable incarnation still went on a berserk rampage upon waking up
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>>22110890
>or make things similar to the Shin version
Did you see Singular Point?
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>>22115182
I don’t know. But singular point was in the Japanese 10 the whole show’s run and fluctuated from like 2nd to 6th place. Not to mention in the top 10 in a bunch of other places and it still doesn’t have a word of a second season years later.

Rebirth premiered at 9th place in just Japan. And going by the global top 10 less than a million people watched it globally.

I don’t know what the metric for success for this particular series is, but it’s considerably below singular point’s viewership which never got a second season.
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>>22115187
Gamera only has his function and time and time again, he is forced into destructive conflicts with no chance to rest. His very nature, across all incarnations, is one of suffering. Rebirth arguably has it the worst, given he was literally made with the expectation he'd eat children and be used as a weapon of mass destruction by a bunch of 1000+ year old psychopaths. But all of them are suffering - they're the world's defense mechanism and can be nothing more.
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>>22110890
No thanks, shit taste-kun
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>>22114476
I retroactively hate Guardian of the Universe for turning Gyaos into Gamera's Mothra/Rodan/Ghidorah/Mechagodzilla equivalent. He's a decent enough foe, but he's not THAT interesting, not when you have creatures like Barugon, Guiron, Viras, Legion, and Iris. Thank god Rebirth gave some of the other guys another chance to shine.
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>that video with Rebirth Zigra with the showa voices and audio got taken down
Sad.
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>>22115200
Oh fuck
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>>22112304
Pretty sure it's parodying a panel from Baki the Grappler.
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>>22115181
Maybe his species did it and he just inherited this role. It's fun to speculate what motivates him and other secrets like what brought him closer to Mothra or to humans. How much free will is there in his actions. I think Godzilla is definitely an individual and could just say "fuck it" if he wanted.
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>>22115241
Either that or he does this shit because if things get too out of whack it'll be too chaotic for him. Beat the crap out of the unruly partygoing neighbors before they can throw an absolute rager that makes the cops come
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>>22115231
Like I said, the expectations are probably lower because this looks way cheaper and is from a much smaller IP. But it is getting a LOT less attention than singular point ever did.

I don’t know what kadakawa expects in terms of viewership so maybe it has surpassed their expectations, but in the end us outside of the company have no clue.
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>>22115248
I'm genuinely scared now
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>>22115248
I was thinking about it and it depends if Kadokawa had realistic expectations. Maybe they said "ok have some pocket change now turn this Gamera series into a hit or that's it for him" or maybe they will be more intelligent and be realistic and satisfied with good reviews.
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>>22115252
Good reviews aren't enough. Looks like it's lights out for Gamera
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>>22113650
It felt like the opposite to me. It made Godzilla seem the most aggressive and assholeish of the Legendary movies.
Which I mean, I'm cool with. But it seems contrary to some of his actions in 2014 and kinda just makes the Japanese guy from KoM seem like a sentimental idiot.
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>>22115260
Yeah he was kind of a dick in that movie
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>>22115260
>>22115269
The entire point of the film is that Godzilla is fucking pissed because it's barely been any time at all since Ghidorah came back, and Apex was ALREADY planning to bring him back by fucking with his remains - as though the entire planet hadn't nearly died just before. The dude was utterly nettled, had barely rested since Ghidorah returned, and was no doubt in a panic at the idea that the enemy of all life would come back and fuck everything up.

His most genuinely dickish behavior is against Kong, and that'd explainable by their species having been rivals.
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>>22113716
I'm not entirely sure what you're saying.
I hated Godzilla Earth, they essentially made him into the antagonist monster that Godzilla would take down in another Godzilla movie (literally infecting the planet), but kept this wispy sentimentality that he's the hand of nature correcting humanity's mistakes or some shit. At least they were honest about what GMK Godzilla was.
Gamera Rebirth doesn't "do it better", so much as it has very little in common with Polygon Godzilla.
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>>22115269
To whom? He kept avoiding any conflict with humans had tons of patience and even perhaps saved Brody. I mean he definitely saved him but he either didn't even see him and just attacked the MUTO while her back was turned or was nice enough to attack her sooner rather than later even if her defeat was his main concern naturally.
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>>22115257
>>22115250
I wouldn’t lose all hope yet, I’ll admit things don’t look good but it’s not horrific.
>>22115257
Well, audience reviews aren’t going to drive people to watch it. Rebirth is barley outdoing singular point’s audience scores on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes, 6.5 to 6.7 and 65 to 66
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>>22115282
I get it. And it makes sense.
But it still feels like a backpedal from the weepy scene with the Japanese dude in KoM and just kind of makes it seem like he was making assumptions about something he didn't understand.
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>>22115282
>>22115269
From the leaks Godzilla isnt attacking any people at all and is trying to save earth again and is on Kong’s side. So I think it’s a return to normal.

And it Godzilla and Mothra weren’t there in the final fight Shimu alone would have torn Kong a new one
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>>22115283
All of the characters acting like Godzilla Earth was benign or simply acting to punish humanity are explicitly retarded and overdosing on copium. He very explicitly killed all life on the planet that wasn't him to make his view of the world with him as the uncontested ruler a reality. This includes non-human life like other kaiju.
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>>22115291
This is genuinely frustrating as hell
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>>22115282
Godzilla Dominion inspires nothing but pure respect for the guy because he's so incredibly selfless throughout the story. My regret is that in the movie none of that is showing making him look as bad as possible. I know GxK will show more of his work but I doubt we will see my favorite scene of Godzilla saving one of his subjects from titan poachers.
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>>22115260
>>22115269
Godzilla's dickishness in GvsK wasn't unwarranted. First, mankind was fucking around with the remains of Ghidorah, Godzilla's mortal enemy who killed Mothra and nearly killed Godzilla and took over the world. I'd be furious if someone tried reviving my worst enemy who killed my wife, too. Second, he was dealing with a Kong, who was his species'... other worst enemy. Godzilla had every reason to be pissed in that movie.
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>>22115304
And the recent short comic is like one damage control for Godzilla to confirm is as the hero. I mean it's just a couple pages showing nothing new except that Godzilla has an actual fandom in the Monsterverse.
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>>22115300
I genuinely don't get what the vibe is supposed to be. The movies end like the earth being this way is some part of it's healing process or something.
But nothing indicates Godzilla Earth's infection is going to go into remission once things are "fixed". It's ruined. It's a bad end. It's probably just going to get worse, and humanity has no stake left in Earth and should find better ways to use their time.
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>>22115321
That's life
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>>22115304
We need more empathetic, emotional reptiles as main characters. Reptiles shouldn’t just be villains. Between this and primal I hope we are going in the right direction
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>>22115325
If accepting that earth (both the planet and the Godzilla) were a lost cause, and that was take-away, I would be fine with it.
But it's not. The story ends like humanity is supposed to live under Godzilla's malevolent foot for some reason. It somehow feels more cynical than giving up humanity's home.
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>>22115291
Well I have
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>>22115248
Most people who gave a shit about Gamera already watched it on Netflix. So the TV broadcast doesn't really reflect the actual number.
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>>22115356
No these ARE the Netflix numbers, 9th place in Japan and no other places
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>>22115363
I really need to know if they thought this would succeed
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>>22115363
That's a shame. I really hope they're able to do more
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>>22115375
With all the cross promotions it seems like they did
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>>22115245
Heroes that do what they do because of objective positive effect of their work > heroes that are motivated by "doing what's right"
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>>22115420
They're morons
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>>22115330
Good repriles emerged in the 60s with Gorgo (or at least with sympathetic and morally right motivation), LeGuin's dragons that have bigger influence on their correct characterization than Tolkien and finally with Godzilla post 1964. I just hope that his character in GxK will be closer to the one in KotM which is when we were meant to root for him and feel scared for his life. I don't want to hear that Kong should be the main focus because "le monke le more sympathetic to humans"
No. I love my fucking dinosaurs. Godzilla transcendents mere reptile/mammal (or avian) distinctions anyway. He's a monster first.
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Welp that's a wrap. No more Gamera forever
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>>22115450
Don’t give up, if the demand is there he’ll be there
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>>22115450
Good
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>>22115454
No demand
>>22115455
It's not even good, just disheartening
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>>22115461
You’re right it’s fantastic. No more Gamera
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>>22115461
You don’t have a lot of faith now do you? Clearly the director is still enthusiastic about it. We could see more
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>>22115468
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic
>>22115469
I really don't. They chose the literal worst time to come back.
If Gamera was going to come back at this time, he needed to do something big, like a fucking movie
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>>22115476
We could still get a movie, and I’m certainly sure rebirth isn’t entirely over
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>>22115469
Literal trailers from Godzilla are mogging the entire series. Both minus one and the monarch show are trending much higher with mere trailers than gamera right after his whole show released according to IMDB
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>>22115482
I mean yeah it’s Godzilla, obviously he’s a far more established pop culture icon
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Goddamn the Godzilla save the earth intro is so good, I wish we had the isolated music from it
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>>22115487
And that spells doom for this series and the franchise as a whole.
He's not coming back
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>>22115489
Not all rival brands have comparable popularity. Gamera is GoBots but there's room for more than one IP in the genre. And Gamera beat Godzilla movie at the box office maybe 2-3 times from 1967 to 1969 (?) because it was released first.
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>>22115506
And this means we won't be seeing anything more from him for the rest of time
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>>22115489
>>22115514
Stop acting like a kid, the turtle will advance
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>>22115522
Cope
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>>22115489
>>22115468
>>22115450
>>22115514
>Literally in the top 10's
>actually taking review sites seriously
>ignoring merch and figure sales
>is now Seething and having a meltdown that the show has fans
You was told to kill yourself two threads ago Kaijurager
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>>22115538
Those are through the floor faggot
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>that behind the scenes VFX of MonsterVerse Mothra walking while her abdomen sways
B-bros
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>>22115543
I haven;t seen it, But if you're into this moth thing you realize her ladybits are fully visible in the movie, right?
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>>22115543
Of course it is
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>>22115542
>provides no sources
You know, maybe we should doxx you to see if you are really a brown shitskin like some of the other board spammers here.
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>>22115538
>top ten in one (uno) country
>9th place on premiere week, lower than month old episodes of other shows
>it’s massive success guys, it has fans!
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>>22115552
You're implying that anything other than reviews and viewership define a show's success
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>>22115552
Do you have a source for the great figure sales?
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It failed didn't it
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>>22115562
We don’t know that, anyone claiming to know either way is a liar
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>>22115563
We do know that based on how interest has completely fallen after a week
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>>22115538
Lol
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>>22115569
Lmao
>scrapes by a show that no one has ever heard of with two month old content
>Big success!
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>>22115569
>>22115577
This is sad
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>>22115569
How many views would it need to be a success?
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>>22115555
You're the literal schizo retard who cant tell the diffrence between the first and second and third cloverfield movies i dont expect you to have any grasp on anything
>>22115569
>>22115577
>>22115579
>replies within seconds of eachother
Totally not samefagging at all
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>>22115606
No, not really. I'm just saying it's sad that this show probably won't prompt anything more
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>>22115606
I don’t even know who kaiju rager is you dumbass, I’m just pointing out a sub par performance when I see it. Post those great merch sales you were touting, at least I have evidence of low viewership.
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>>22115612
God dammit this is sad
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>>22115528
He wouldn't attack Biollante because, as unnatural as she is, she's benign
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I want to be proven wrong about my fears but it seems they've come to pass
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>>22115549
They're crushing on the moth. Whatever I'm not mad. And I have to admit if I were in Godzilla's place honestly I'd too. She's just too good of a companion in this grim sorry ass world not to be on friendly terms with and spend eternity with. There are so few mosnters left in the world there aren't many choices anyway. Beside her Godzilla is surrounded by idiots.
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>>22115726
And Kong has a hawk. Or used to have. Of course she was a pet companion not a partner on equal terms.
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>>22115269
It was a progression.
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>>22115215
Nah, I love GOTU, and I love the Gyaos in it. They’re one of the few genuinely scary kaiju to me.
That being said, I’d like for them to take a breather, or go back to his more Showa roots. The original Gyaos was big, arguably bigger than Gamera, and much more bat like.
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>>22115758
Super and Hyper Gyaos are both bigger than him statistically
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>>22115758
Gyaos being pushed as Gamera's Ghidorah will never fully work.
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It's so easy for someone to just say "___ is dead, it's over", post it twenty times, and reply to themselves about any of these topics. If Gamera is dead, it's dead. If it lives on, it lives on. This is like the person who keeps posting on /ssg/ about King, or the tons of /krg/ shitposters. If people have genuine questions about stuff, sure, talk it out. But try to at least pretend like you've been on 4chan for a while, try to intuit what's bait and what isn't.
>>22115215
Agreed on giving other kaiju a chance to shine, but I don't mind how different stuff like the origins or designs are. With how different Godzilla gets to be, having more of a range with the kaiju keeps things refreshing. I'm more sad by there not being more new kaiju.
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>>22115772
But it IS dead
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>>22115765
Hyper Gyaos was fodder, and Super Gyaos was the exception to the rule with current Gyaos. Usually they’re just skinny fodders.
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>>22115784
It's terrifying how how Gamera go so strong that enemies superior to the one that 1v1'd him in '95 were nothing but fodder to him by that point
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What do you think of Gamera's new attacks?
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>>22115817
Insanely cool evolution of his moveset that only animation could pull off
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>>22115528
Him dealing with the utter hilarious assshole that is Heisei Goji would be extremely funny.
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>>22115829
Heisei Goji isn't an asshole, just utterly pissed.
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>>22115215
To be fair, Gyaos was the only other kaiju to return in the Showa films
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>>22115832
He's definitely pretty assholish. After a while, many of his attacks on humanity are unprompted - though he admittedly does chill out a bit because of Junior, but ONLY because Junior likes humanity and doesn't want them harmed. He goes from hating us and wanting us dead to more or less apathetic so long as Junior is safe.
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>>22115829
For some reason crossovers were the theme of the day with everyone doodling something. Probably related to the Godzilla design tournament.
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>>22115841
Absolutely was
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So Rebirth is a failure right
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>>22115758
What do you think of that ending Gyaos? I actually liked its weird neck bits, shame it's the only one without a toy
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>>22115865
I'm angry that it didn't use it's lightning-fueled turbo-scalpel against Gamera
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>>22115841
This is extra funny when you realize that Legendary is older than all the non-SP Gojis by virtue of being countless millions of years older than them. He's the kaiju equivalent of an ultra boomer.
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>>22114470
God damn even the posters don't give Jiger a break
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>>22115834
Now that’s a good point, I also like how they effectively demonstrated on more powerful the new monster is, previously gyaos was already quite a dangerous foe but considering how it was easily decimated showed gamera was in for something rough
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>>22115911
Considering Guiron is arguably the most difficult opponent he ever had I'm inclined to agree
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>>22115577
How many hours is that anyways? 25 million is a success.
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Let my boy return
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>GXK knows lanky is boring, so they have to bait viewers with another Goji redesign
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>>22116192
It's probably just toy proportions
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So nobody's going to talk about how Gamera literally turns himself into a Rasengan?
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>>22115215
I like the overall design and evil leaning nature of Gyaos, but feel like always portraying them as just a swarm of monsters usually and less instances of being a larger focused individual threat has limited them from being more interesting and possibly villainous.
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>>22116228
I wonder how you'd reintegrate Gyaos' vampiric aspects into his character
Then again, we'll have to see if this franchise even goes forward.
Also
https://www.tumblr.com/kevynthedevylman/728014434272985088/ive-come-to-make-an-announcement
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>>22114983
What’s the point if the animation is awful?
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>>22116241
I guess, but hey if they get more budget they might be able to use 2D.
Honestly, this show being kinda low-budget makes sense. It means there's a higher chance of there being greater returns.
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>>22116238
I would go back to Showa Gyaos.
>Gyaos is a massive nocturnal creature, coming out at night to mass feed on innocent populations, dark gray/purple in color again
>Like the original, starts learning how to defend itself from sunlight and manages to dodge everything thrown at him
>Played up like a legitimately vicious and cruel creature, even causing destruction that doesn’t do anything for its needs
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>>22116246
>Make a product that looks like ass
>”Well if we make it cheap and ugly then we’ll make more”
Didn’t work.
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>>22116251
It failed, I get it
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>>22116247
Anon, not to put you on the spot, but why do you keep typing posts out as if you were selling a pitch?
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>>22116256
Because it's neat to speculate about the unspeculated?
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>>22116192
>he doesn’t know about shimu
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>>22116210
There is an “evolved” form, but it isn’t that RC thing. He has G2k like spines that glow red and has spikier skin.
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>>22116259
Speculating is cool and all, it's just that you fill up threads with these stories. Just a bit odd, since it's done so often that it's really easy to see what your posts are.
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>>22116286
It's not just me though
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>>22116275
Man this is sad
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>>22116296
What’s sad about it?
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>>22116298
Wrong reply. Just thinking about how Rebirth is failing
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>>22116303
You gotta stop posting the same thing over and over
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I wish Gareth Edwards returned to Monsterverse...
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>>22116338
Agreed
>>22116337
AM I WRONG
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>>22116256
Because it’s fun to come up with ideas. I was responding to a hypothetical.
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>>22116286
>Noooooo don’t have fun!
That anon wasn’t me by the way, I’m the one that posted >>22116247
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>>22116429
That's not what he's saying
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>>22116337
Just report for spam, ignore and hide the spammers post anon.
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>>22116438
Please prove me wrong otherwise
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>22116444
Spammers belong in the >>>/trash/
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>>22115834
That's not Gyaos. That's Space Gyaos. That's a completely different character. I'm kidding. Kind of.
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>>22116459
This is why I want Monga to make his debut as an ally
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There seems to be new test-screening leaks about GxK, something that includes Godzilla having G2K sounds in his new form? Anybody has them?
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>>22115315
what comic?
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>>22116544
>S-Gyaos.
>Ate moon lady and spacefaring Viras.
>Final gambit of the moon folk.
>S(pace)-Gyaos.
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>>22116657
Can either be Super Gyaos or Space Gyaos, I love it.
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>>22116582
I don't like how human that eye looks
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>>22116338
Fuck no. 2014 was a massive letdown. I’ve never seen a film undermine itself so much in my entire life.
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>>22116683
Counterpoint: it had a great atmosphere, visuals and aesthetics, which is primarily why I like it. That, and just how he handled Godzilla on screen, his movement and scale. Honestly, I think if Gareth came back now, he'd have a much easier time. He wouldn't have to play it safe and hold back anymore, there is no pressure of making a new american Godzilla movie after the gigantic previous screw up either.
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>>22116720
It had a great atmosphere, I do agree. But literally everything else was nothing but building up to monumental letdowns and ultimately nothing interesting.

>Cast Bryan Cranston as the main for the first portion of the movie
>Character has a perfect motivation, strong actor, and perfect reason to be in each sequence
>Gets replaced by his block of wood son who magically is also a specific expert that lets him go where the action is and his block of wood family

>Serizawa comes off as the secretive man with possibly a lot of knowledge on what’s happening
>Just spouts generic trailer lines the whole time

>We finally see Godzilla and the male MUTO face to face after building up their encounter
>Nevermind it’s on the tv screen in the background

>Female MUTO wakes up near a city
>Cuts back later and the city’s already destroyed

>Let them fight
>Door closes and we don’t see it

>Final battle happens
>Most of it you can’t even see

It completed wasted what could’ve been a great movie and failed at everything it wanted to be. The atmosphere was wasted on it.
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>>22116749
Well, as I've said, at this point yhere is no reason to hold back, we know how Godzilla looks and Monsterverse has had some really whacky stuff in it now. All those issues are a result of circumstances of the time, Gareth Edwards can make better plot/character choices. You're just too hung up on the negatives, as if directors can't improve and avoid past mistakes.
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>>22116762
>Well, as I've said, at this point yhere is no reason to hold back,
There was no reason to hold back in the 2014 movie. That’s the entire point of building something up, anon. You need to actually deliver. You can’t spend an entire movie building up to things we get no payoff for. Even the characters were monumentally boring because they killed off the only guy with an interesting arc in the first half. Nothing was accomplished beyond a few choice scenes, mainly just the airport and the fire breath kill.
>All those issues are a result of circumstances of the time
I’m not taking that excuse. District 9 that came out 5 years earlier managed to make an incredible looking film on $30 million, but Godzilla couldn’t have given us at least one coherent sequence that paid off a build up? If you can’t afford it, don’t promise the audience the payoff. But even then it could’ve been handled much better.
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>>22116770
>There was no reason to hold back in the 2014 movie.
There were plenty of reasons to do so, actually. Especially from a perspective of a newbie filmmaker who is making his very first multi million hollywood blockbuster in a franchise where previous hollywood film was a complete disaster.
Come on now.
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>>22116770
Same anon, but let me add a perspective. Imagine if Gojira was made the same way as 2014.
>Ships get burned
>Footprints are found
>Godzilla is seen over a mountain
>Scientists talk about how massive it is
>Godzilla finally makes it to a major city
>Instead of seeing the horrific attack on Tokyo as the city is engulfed in flames and we see just how awful Godzilla is, we see some of the attack on a TV and when we cut back it’s already over and the city’s destroyed
Now would the movie be as good not seeing the payoff to the build up, or would it have been worse?
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>>22116782
That’s not an excuse, anon. He already had made Monsters, and making the monster attacks the background was his MO. That does not work in a movie where your main characters are crap and you constantly cut away. “He was new” doesn’t hold water for me.
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>>22116783
You get to see the fight in SanFran though, that's your equivalent of a Tkyo attack. There was plenty of footage of scientists talking about how big and scary Godzilla is and shots of destroyed villages before we actually see him attack Tokyo in the original too. Maybe you should rewatch it, it's all there as well.
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>>22116786
Monsters was just an indie movie made on a shoestring budget, anon. And Godzilla was just his second ever film. You guys need to chill, cut the guy some slack.
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>>22116788
>You get to see the fight in SanFran though
Barely through smoke, after being faked out 3 fucking times in build ups to things we don’t get to see and now we’re stuck with a character who is infinitely worse than the guy the movie started with. By then you’re just numb to the whole thing.
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>>22116792
>By then you’re just numb to the whole thing.
Well, all I can say to this is it's a you problem. When I was watching it in the cinema, audience was pumped, me included.
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>>22116795
>Well, all I can say to this is it's a you problem
When in doubt, blame the viewer for the movie’s faults. That and constantly cry about “be nicer to muh director he tried”.
>When I was watching it in the cinema, audience was pumped, me included.
Audiences get pumped in Bayformers and MCU movies, doesn’t mean they’re good.
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>>22116797
>noooo, you can't have a different opinion on a film, only what I say is the eternal Truth!
All I'm seeing here is you having a hateboner for the film/director for some reason.
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>>22116790
>Monsters was just an indie movie made on a shoestring budget, anon.
And Godzilla was not. Not an excuse.
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>>22116808
>Keeps telling me to chill because I’m hurting his director’s feelings
>Tells me it’s my fault the movie had issues
>Tries to pull the “You don’t like different opinions” card
>In the same post says I have a “hateboner” because I didn’t like a movie you like
You can’t be serious.
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>>22116810
Going from an indie production to having $200 mil budget and a ton of responsibility on your ass is a great excuse to play it safe, anon. If you don't understand that, you're just an ureasonable asshole.
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>>22116816
>You can’t say a movie is bad because he’s new to big budgets! A-asshole!
We should give Josh Trank another shot at Fantastic Four too.
Why are you so sensitive over criticism of a film? Are you related to Edwards?
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>>22116815
>Keeps telling me to chill because I’m hurting his director’s feelings
Who keeps telling you that? Voices in your head?
>Tells me it’s my fault the movie had issues
I'm telling you that the ossues the movie has are exclusive to that movie only, and a new movie from the same director can easily just not have them. But you're just too retarded to comprehend that, I guess.
>Tries to pull the “You don’t like different opinions” card
Am I wrong? You clealy can't handle when people think differently from you.
>In the same post says I have a “hateboner” because I didn’t like a movie you like
You have a hateboner for it because you insist on only acknowledging its flaws and insisting that same director with better script and years of experience gained since than can't make a better movie, which is the whole point of my argument. I never even denied that the movie is very flawed, but you are simply to pigheaded to actually read my posts and are arguing with a strawman uou invented in your head.
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>>22116825
>We should give Josh Trank another shot at Fantastic Four too.
Sure, why not. His vision was at least interesting and the footage he did make was cool.
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>>22116838
>Who keeps telling you that? Voices in your head?
>>22116790
>>22116762
>>22116782
You literally keep telling me to cut him slack and chill just because I’m criticizing the film, and talking about how directing is hard so I need to be nice. You even said “You guys need to chill, cut the guy some slack.”. So no, it’s not the voices in my head, it’s you.
You’re literally upset and crying that I am judging the film on its merits and not giving Edwards a super special pass for being an indie filmmaker. The fact is that the movie’s atmosphere didn’t make up for its problems, and I personally wouldn’t want him back because the pros don’t outweigh the cons. The atmosphere doesn’t mean much when nothing else is properly developed.
What you call a “hateboner” is literally basic movie discussion and you’re hurt that someone doesn’t like a movie you like. I can’t magically say I like a movie because muh slack.
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>>22116840
>Making everything shittier looking and way less interesting in design is cool
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>>22116852
I'm telling you to chill because you're just taking about one singular movie like it's his entire career.
At this point I can only conclude that you're just legitinately retarded.
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>>22116856
Shittier than what? Less interesting than what? Use your words, anon.
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>>22116857
>I'm telling you to chill because you're just taking about one singular movie like it's his entire career.
I would absolutely love proof of that. I never said his career is bad. He made a Godzilla movie, I didn’t like it, I don’t want him to make more. I didn’t say “He had a bad career”. You were the one constantly bringing up that he’s a indie filmmaker, and I only mentioned Monsters to retort that him putting the interesting stuff in the background isn’t new so that’s not an excuse. You’re over exaggerating again.
>At this point I can only conclude that you're just legitinately retarded.
The thin skinned pot with no argument calling the kettle black.
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>>22116860
Gee anon, I don’t know. It’s not like it was based on a pre existing property.
There is no way your level of comprehension is this bad.
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>>22116864
>He made a Godzilla movie, I didn’t like it
So, it is a you problem after all, glad we sorted it out. There are plenty of people who did like it, and your opinion is no better than theirs.
I just think the positives outweight the negatives, and I'd like to see what he can do with Godzilla now, 10 years later with more experience and in current Monsterverse. Everything has changed, it's not 2014 anymore.
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>>22116607
Fight or Flight
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Just watched the second episode of Gamera Rebirth, was Jiger this boring in the original movies too? He has horns but doesn't ram anything, just stabs things with the tail.
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>>22116762
2014 is an objectively shit movie and you deepthroating Gareth Edwards will never, ever change this fact. Go play in traffic.
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>>22116867
He's trolling you anon.
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>>22116916
As I said, you just have a hateboner for it.
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>>22116921
And you just have boner for Gareth Edwards
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>>22116935
I just said I like his style of directing and wish he'd come back to the franchise, I don't worship him, anon. You, on the other hand act like he raped your mom or some shit.
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>>22116663
Could also mean seagull or swan based on the story content too.
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>already near bump limit
Soon becoming like srwg
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>One Week
>I am Forgotten
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>>22116890
>I didn’t like the movie because of its problems
>SEE THAT’S YOUR FAULT
Then it’s your fault for liking it.
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>>22116921
That wasn’t me, dummy. This may sound crazy, but what if there isn’t just ONE person who didn’t like your boyfriend’s film?
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>>22117787
Jesus, you are a fucking idiot.
>>22117789
And you as well.
You droooling retards need to learn to read the posts you're replying to.
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>>22117570
No
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>>22117813
>Thinks saying a movie is bad is attack on your super special boyfriend
>Can’t into basic comprehension skills
>Calling anyone else stupid
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>>22117825
Do it or no more Gamera
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I liked the tone 2014 took. It had some good ideas but ultimately should’ve been more Bryan Cranston doing conspiracy shit
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>>22117990
Good
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>>22118136
Why
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>>22118177
Because I hate gamera’s fans and want to see them suffer. Gamera himself is really neat but his fans are the hipsters of the kaiju world
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>>22118235
Rude
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>>22117990
If this is what we get for “more Gamera” then I don’t care. I didn’t watch that anime Godzilla trilogy either.
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>>22118241
We might get more live action stuff if this does well.
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>>22118235
If this gets popular enough he won't be a hipster kaiju anymore
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>>22118237
>Heh, you like Godzilla? Well I like this obscure kaiju you’ve probably never heard of, he’s called Gamera
This is how they act and it’s obnoxious and it’s only gotten worse since rebirth came out.
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>>22118252
But that's factual. Gamera isn't well-known outside of Japan.
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>>22118252
I see more acknowledgement that constant comparisons (even if they're meant to be positive) to Godzilla are shit and unnecessary. Up from the Depths did it not long ago. With one idiot declaring that Gamera is "2 for 2" because I guess Godzilla and Gamera only compete when Gamera "wins". No info about what the first time might've been.
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>>22118277
Honestly, I wonder if a MV Gamera movie is even legally possible.
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>>22118252
Point is, we want to break out of obscurity and enter the mainstream
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>>22118277
Showa era doesn’t exist according to them, in spite of most Gamera media coming from that era
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>>22118297
Gamera is a constantly struggling series. It makes sense the fans would be frustrated
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>>22118302
There’s a difference between frustration and revising history. Gamera literally exists as a Godzilla ripoff, without Godzilla, Gamera would have never existed. Gamera fans have to recognize that instead of pretending the showa era movies don’t exist
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>>22118312
I do. I am also extremely upset about Rebirth failing
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Let's be real, Gamera fans only exist thanks to the Heisei trilogy, it was the only good Gamera media to exist until the Netflix series.
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>>22118439
>What is VS Barugon
>What is The Brave
>What is Manga Boys
>What is Gamera 2000
>What is the 2015 short
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>>22118439
Everybody who made it was disappointed they weren't working on a Godzilla movie. They had a "Godzilla envy" though it passed when the movies were successful. Without it Gamera would be a little more than Guilala or Gappa today.
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>>22118467
It was the big break he needed.
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>>22118467
Honestly, to quote some youtube reviewer
>You can't mine gold from just dirt, there has to be a vein there to begin with
The question is what did they bring to the surface with the Heisei trilogy?
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>>22118235
If he becomes more popular the fans will likely become less aggressive due to not needing to push as hard.
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>>22118242
Source?
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>>22118535
They said that if Rebirth does well enough we can potentially expect a season 2 and a live-action Gamera series
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>>22118439
Nope.
My first Gamera movies were Guiron, Zigra, and the original. Loved that weird turtle ever since.
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>>22118506
>The question is what did they bring to the surface with the Heisei trilogy?
A really unique kaiju, a genuinely heroic monster, and a cool and creepy nemesis.
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>>22118541
>They
Sauce
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>>22118552
The guys who made Rebirth
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>>22118557
Sauce
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Where can I get the Heisei Godzilla films in good quality? I want to watch Biollante but can't find it anywhere. It's either in awful quality, dubbed, or both
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>>22118805
I dunno honestly. I think you really just have to bite the bullet with that one and buy it.
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>>22116429
Now, I'm wondering how to portray any upcoming monsters
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Let’s be honest
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>>22113636
>>22113664
Sounds like we're going full Showa, only thing that's missing are aliens who secretly mind control all the monsters.
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I found Gamera's theme music in the wild.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJD5XVja09k
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>>22119176
Kek
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>>22119127
Yet another thing
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>>22119260
I feel like Barugon could be a perfect antithesis to Gamera.
>Turtle vs. Lizard
>Heat vs. Cold
>Aquatic vs. Anti-Water
>Both have bizarre side powers outside of their fire/ice breath
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Since Gamera’s a hot topic, rank the Showa Gamera movies and the trilogy (separate to be fair, but Brave I guess can go there). Rank Rebirth too I guess if you’ve seen it.

>Showa
Jiger>Barugon>Gyaos>Guiron>The Giant Monster>Zigra>Viras>Super Monster

>Trilogy/Beyond
Guardian Of The Universe>3>2>The Brave
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>>22119295
Hot topic my ass but
Barugon>Gyaos>Jiger>Guiron>GM>Viras>Zigra>SM
GOTU>2>Rebirth>3
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>>22119283
Barugon is more than a rival, he's a final boss.
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I don't think many people even hate Gamera, figure most kaiju fans are pretty cool with most series. The closest thing I see to shitting on stuff is people making fun of kaijin or not liking some sentai designs. Stuff like the rivalry between it or hating Shin because others like it smells like people entrenched in the social media side of things and being upset at normies.
Actually curious, what is your favorite "obscure" kaiju? Do you have one that's lesser known that you love to see pop up?
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>>22119561
Yonggary. Genuinely want to see if they can SOMEHOW pull a Heisei Trilogy with him
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>>22119561
Dagarah and Desghidorah were pretty awesome.
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>>22119632
Are those Mothra Leo movies worth the watch? The forms are sick as fuck, same for the kaiju, but I only hear people say they'd rather not rewatch it, when movie night rolls around
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>>22119633
They’re kids movies, like for 7 year olds
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>>22119633
They’re way too kiddy for their own good and have the problem that literally all of the Heisei Godzilla VS movies have except it’s slightly more justifiable
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>>22119561
I don’t even hate Gamera. His fans have just been annoying me with their chip on their shoulder. A lot of them are trying to make rebirth (which was decent) into a “take that Godzilla!” thing. I don’t know how simply getting new media can make someone so smug but there you have it.

As for obscure kaiju? I’ve always kinda liked gezora, he’s a goofy fella.
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>>22119702
Or maybe desperation because they’ve confirmed that when this fails there’s nothing
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>>22119633
Sadly only the third one is good. But 1 and 2 are at least worth it for the monsters and some solid action/effects, but everything else is bad.
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>>22119561
I might be alone here, but I like Daigoro vs. Goliath. I thought it was a fun monster romp and I actually liked the shockingly realistic approach to having a monster around.
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>>22119489
I know it was in the manga, but Barugon would’ve fit beautifully in the trilogy universe. It’s a shame we didn’t get him. I kind of wish we got him instead of Legion.
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>>22116249
Um, why would you expect Rebirth to be silly? I mean, with the butt-ugly animation reminiscent of the Netflix Godzilla trilogy (apparently by the same people too), I expect the tone to be similar too, serious and unironic.
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Has monarch or apex's evil doing been exposed yet?? In novels
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>>22120106
I thought Monarch is staying as the pro-Godzilla faction while Apex if it still exists was exposed following the last movie. There may be an intention of returning to a better relwtions between Godzilla and humans but this being directed by Wingard I won't believe till I see it.
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>>22119633
The kid parts almost put me to sleep when I was watching them, I liked the kaiju designs but honestly I am not sure if it's worth to slog through the more boring parts for them.
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>>22120125
how canon is the novel anyway. Ren Serizawa being possessed stuff
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>>22120252
If I like it, it's canon
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>>22119942
They considered him but decided new Kaiju would be cooler
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I liked Gamera's more mystical origins in the Heisei era. Heisei and Rebirth have the same general "Origin" but a bunch of details are done much worse.
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>>22119633
They're fun, but they are fundamentally children's movies.
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How would you make Gamera more popular?
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Tazaki is literally the best holy shit
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>>22119176
I don’t get it
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>>22121357
Sounds like a power tool or truck commercial
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>>22122247
Stop browsing kaiju twt reeeee



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