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Is Majinga or Mazinger the canon name?
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>>22098479
マジンガー
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>>22098479
>canon name
Are stupid or retarded?
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>>22098479
What does it sound like to you?
https://youtu.be/KK3g-d5BO1M
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>>22098498
but if it's "z" why did they use "ジ" instead of "ゼ"?
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>>22098508
different vowel sound
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>>22098508
>different languages pronounce letters in different ways
Congratulations for your finding, Anon.
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Technically, it's Majinger.

Majin like in Majinbu, but with an -er suffix like Avenge to Avengers.

But most people know it as Mazinger anyway, so whatevs.
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>>22098541
Actually it's mazin becase mashin because machine.
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>>22098617
The name is based on Ma + Jin (demon god) + er (from Energer Z, the prototype name)
The correct name is Majinger.
Mazinger has no meaning behind it
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>>22098675
Yes it does, I just explained it to you.
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It's pronounced Mah Nigga
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Friendly reminder that the original Mazinger Z manga is separate from the tv magazine version and great mazinger (the versions translated to english fucked with it by mixing mutually exclusive versions, but a version translated to spanish and some japanese editions fix it. Also the Mazinger Z ending that is shown in the english translated version of great mazinger isn't in the spanish translated version of it, because it was originally released in shonen jump like the original manga, which other versions in japan fix).
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>>22098675
Where does the G between Majin and er come from?
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>>22098925
from Energer too
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>>22098479
everytime i hear the name in Japanese i think of the Big Bang Theory.
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>>22099111
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>>22098541
>Technically, it's Majinger.
The japanese are weird when romanizing the "j" sound and sometimes they use "z" instead. Happened with Zyuranger and Daizyujin too.
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>>22099341
No, that's how their phonemes work.
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>>22099380
then why do they say "majingah Zetto"?
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The j sound in じ/ジ is more like a mix between j and z. Same thing with r and l or b and v.
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>>22098508
Transliteration is a murky process when sounds don't directly match. The people who do transliteration are generally just random fucks who happen to be there when it's happening. The Japanese don't lose sleep over this shit because they just don't give a fuck what foreigners think in the first place. Their audience is first and always themselves. If you say the name in an English sentence use Mazinger. If you are saying the name in a Japanese sentence use Majinga. Who cares? You? Stop it. It doesn't matter.
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>>22100349
Based.
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>>22098874
I choose to ignore this, otherwise my autism will destroy me.
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>>22098874
The English translated version of the Mazinger Z manga is the de facto canon version of the manga since 1974 and naturally it's the most published version of it. Yes it's a compilation of the SJ and TV serializations but that was Go Nagai and the publisher's decision. The original SJ version has only been completely published once in that time, in 1999.
>but a version translated to spanish
If they just took the already available Mazinger Z manga and rearranged/cut out chapters, then it's not fully realized. Only the 1999 reprinting of Mazinger Z Original version contains all of the original SJ (44 chapters) and TV magazine chapters (13 chapters) in their proper order and without altered art.

The chapter you're labeling as the original SJ ending (地獄王出陣) was actually first published in the Kodansha Great Mazinger manga and was never part of the SJ run. In the original SJ version, the Mazinger Army arc was never concluded.
Also the images you've posted are of the redrawn chapter, not the original (see image).
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>>22098479 (OP)
It's definitely not Majinga. It would be Majinger if anything. A lot of your confusion seems to stem from conflating English with Japanese. Just because 魔神 is transliterated as Majin does not mean じ/ジ is strictly Ji. Mazinger is the accepted English rendering of the name and linguistically it's just as legitimate.

>>22098508
>>22099859
Because ゼ is Ze, not Zi.
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>>22100500
The tv magazine manga is still separate from the original, since in both dr hell is killed in different ways.
>The chapter you're labeling as the original SJ ending (地獄王出陣) was actually first published in the Kodansha Great Mazinger manga and was never part of the SJ run. In the original SJ version, the Mazinger Army arc was never concluded.
It was first published in the shonen jump magazine, though it was at a later date after the cancellation of the manga. It was never part of Great Mazinger and just took some time to get it released right in the collected versions.
>Also the images you've posted are of the redrawn chapter, not the original (see image).
I guessed so, i just didn't find the original one. The one i posted was the one from the english translated version of Great Mazinger, proving further my point that it wasn't originally released in great mazinger, since what was included in there was the redrawn version.
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>>22101091
And forgot to add that the first page of great mazinger shows the crashed ship of dr hell from the tv magazine manga ending.
Another thing proving that the shonen jump version is unconnected to great mazinger are boss borot and diana a, which don't exist in that version and the fact that jun uses venus a even though it was destroyed.
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>>22098874
You are right but the picture you've posted is incorrect, the last page of the Shonen Jump run ends abruptly with a message from Nagai as the final battle is about to start. This picture is taken from the first ever complete and published Shonen Jump edition in book format, think the these books are from 2017
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>>22101167
And this is the first page of the TV magazine run which Nagai did not feel like working on, because he had to conform to much to Toei's vision of Mazinger that he felt like he wasn't allowed to draw freely and so Mazinger was neglected. If you wanna be autistic about this like I do then that technically means that neither Great Mazinger nor Grendizer are cannon to the original manga.
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It bugs me when people say "Muh-zinger Zee". I hate when you can tell no one watched a thing because they can't even be arsed to pronounce the name right.
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>>22101091
>It was first published in the shonen jump magazine, though it was at a later date after the cancellation of the manga.
That isn't true at all.
>ゴードンが登場する一連のマジンガーZとドクター=ヘルの決戦は本来の漫画連載時には無く、講談社の『グレート・マジンガー』第1巻[53]の発行に際し、新規に描きおろされた(それまで単行本未収録で未完のままであった「マジンガー軍団編」を収録するにあたり、決着を描き足した)ものであった

>>22101101
See
>そのため以後発行された単行本では、これにならって『グレート・マジンガー』の冒頭に長いプロローグとして収録されるか、あるいはクライマックスとして『マジンガーZ』の最終巻に収録されるか、まとめ方がその度に異なる。
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>>22101167
>>22101172
That's the revised edition of Mazinger Z which heavily redraws many parts of the manga. It was first published in 2013-2014. It does contain the original SJ run as well as the TV serialization, but Go Nagai redrew many parts of the SJ series to make it conform to the later TV version. It's also rearranged.
>2013年から2014年にかけて、新たに『改訂版 マジンガーZ』(全4巻)が講談社から刊行された[59][60][61][62]。これは少年ジャンプ連載版とテレビマガジン連載版を、単行本『グレート・マジンガー』第1巻[53]で描き足されたゴードンとの最終決戦までを含めて全話収録したものであるが、かつてないほど両者の融合を図った加筆修正や整理が施されている。そのためビジュアル面において全編にわたってマジンガーZの顔面がテレビ版準拠に修正・統一されたのを始め、エピソードの大胆な順序入れ替え(ピグマン子爵編を最終話とするなど)や加筆(ボスボロットの開発など)が行われている[注釈 14]。内容は『マジンガーZ』の物語として完結しており、(ゴーゴン大公とは未決着のまま)ミケーネ帝国やグレート・マジンガーの登場は無い。
It's not the first time all 44 SJ chapters were collected. See >>22100500

>technically means that neither Great Mazinger nor Grendizer are cannon to the original manga.
The SJ series was unfinished. So """"technically"""" you're right. But not really. Go Nagai has compiled the SJ and TV version together since the mid '70s and though there are inconsistencies, they are considered to be one story. As I've talked about above, he's even gone and redrawn/rearranged the two versions to create a more unified narrative between them. Obviously his intention is that SJ Mazinger, TV magazine Mazinger, Great Mazinger and Grendizer are all one continuous series.
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>>22101290
Well, there was an official English version of several of the songs from the show recorded for the Toei-produced English dub (made for broadcast in Hawaii), where Isao Sasaki clearly pronounces it as Mah-zing-er Zee
https://youtu.be/KK3g-d5BO1M
https://youtu.be/T83alfFK0fo
Of course, that sounds dumb and Majinga Zed is still the better anglicisation
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>>22101358
That book is published by Fukkan though, how do you know it has altered art?

https://www.fukkan.com/fk/CartSearchDetail?i_no=68326040
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>>22101438
Just read the reviews. The very first one talks about being disappointed that it's not the original version and instead features some later changes.
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>>22101167
>You are right but the picture you've posted is incorrect, the last page of the Shonen Jump run ends abruptly with a message from Nagai as the final battle is about to start. This picture is taken from the first ever complete and published Shonen Jump edition in book format, think the these books are from 2017
I already knew that. What i posted is the ending to that version that go nagai drew later on shonen jump.
>>22101347
>>22101358
Those were fuck-ups that go nagai didn't probably intend at all.
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>>22101408
Yeah, I know there'a that old song. But even that new-ish Infinity dub says it the wrong way.
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>>22101458
I see, that is a shame but they it seems to be minor things? I know there is a older revised edition which completely redraws Mazinger's head to include a nose and other Toei features. I guess it is at least not that severe. It is a shame that the production of the manga has been this chaotic.
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>>22101290
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Everyone but Kouji should be calling it Yourzinger Zee.
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>>22101470
Bro that Gordon chapter was never in Shounen Jump. Ever. I don't know what your problem is but you're lying through your teeth for no reason. Your image in >>22098874 is hilariously wrong.

>>22101474
According to a few of the reviews I've read some of the scenes are altered, so it's not just changed art. You're right in saying that Mazinger Z has a chaotic production history. I've even read that there's an original Lorelai arc and an extended Lorelai arc that appears in different collections of the manga. Without reading all of the different versions that exist, it's hard to know exactly what's what.
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>>22101511
>Bro that Gordon chapter was never in Shounen Jump. Ever. I don't know what your problem is but you're lying through your teeth for no reason. Your image in >>22098874 is hilariously wrong.
My mistake. It was the conclusion i reached with the messy history of Mazinger Z between the manga i found, the wiki and the japanese wikipedia (which google translate possibly messed it for me).
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Japan originally used a Romanization form called Nihon-shiki. In that form, which you can still see in some older places, "ji" was Romanized as di or zi. Some people still use it, and it is occasionally used in stylized designs.
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>>22101531
No problem, it's a tangled web. The preceding chapter with the Mazinger Army's death is the last chapter from the SJ serialization afaik.
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>>22101543
Nowadays ぢ is di and じ is zi. If you have IME you can even write じ by inputting either zi or ji.
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>>22101511
>Without reading all of the different versions that exist, it's hard to know exactly what's what.

Interesting, had no idea about the Lorelei arc being extended.
A quick google search shows some pages of Lorelei that I haven't seen before, I think Mazinger looking like this is a good indicator that it's something that was added later. I've machine translated interviews where Nagai claims he disliked the original look for Mazinger without the nose because it looked like a mask(?)
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>>22101560
>I think Mazinger looking like this is a good indicator that it's something that was added later
Yes and no. Nagai went back and redrew/altered specific panels and pages of the SJ stories at various times. That's not even getting into the added and remixed content. It's crazy how many versions of the same chapters exist.
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Speaking of different looking Mazingers, even the original SJ run had the design changed multiple times, especially as it appears on cover art. This one already differs from the first appearance in the manga that had rounded chest plates. The color choices are often pretty interesting. The lack of nose, red eyeliner and yellow joints add a lot of contrast and personality, makes Toeizinger look dull and toned down, but that's just my opinion.
>>22101567
It's strange how he's done this to basically ALL of his major manga, there are a million revised editions of Devilman and Violence Jack, some of them really mess with the reading experience, especially the one currently licensed in english, which not only has redrawn art but also removed pages and content from Shin Devilman. I wonder if Nagai or someone else at DP is feeling insecure about the original work?
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I understand that burgers got the travesty known as Tranzor but for the rest of the world it has always been Mazinger, stop acting snobby trying to correct others because you use the japanese pronunciation.
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>>22101592
I don't know but from a business perspective having multiple versions allows you to, well, sell multiple versions. Devilman has two major editions: the original and the Shin Devilman-integrated version. I'm too lazy to look up with companies have them, but basically one major manga printing company has the righs to original Devilman and another company has the publishing rights to the Shin Devilman version.
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>>22101592
Nagai has been fucked over by publishers and producers multiple times, the man has an incredible fanbase but can't seem to get a good deal with Japanese studios to make something with the IPs he owns.
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>>22101663
He's one of the few living mangaka that actually owns most of his works and he's clashed with companies like Toei over rights in the past. No to mention the tangled web of rights concerning merchandise. It's little wonder why he's a bit of an outsider in the anime industry, funding a Go Nagai project is a very different endeavor than the usual purely corporate owned IPs.
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>>22101668
>He's one of the few living mangaka that actually owns most of his works and he's clashed with companies like Toei over rights in the past.
Do you happen to know what his ownership of Mazinger is like? I remember reading on a wiki that it was thanks to meddling from Toei that Dai-Mazinger never happened.
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>>22101668
Of course, and I'm all for him owning his stuff and not getting fucked by Toei again.
>>22101673
They probably own part (if not all) of Mazinger's animated rights or something like that.
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>>22101592
For me it's the original white pilder no-nose Mazinger
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>>22101680
Based taste, very underrated Mazinger.
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>>22101673
I actually have no clue as to how Mazinger's rights are split up.

Unrelated: reminder that Mazinger Z is the roboticized version of Demon Lord Dante, with Kouji's pilder integrating in the head of the robot being analogous to Ryo Utsugi melding into Dante's forehead. Demon Lord Dante also goes on a rampage when Ryo first merges with it, much like how Mazinger goes on a rampage the first time Kouji pilders on.
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At least we have Energer Z, which has a more simple history and continuity. It's just a few drawings and a fex texts with explanations.
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>>22101707
Also a strong design, love the stretchy fluidity and energy of Nagai's old art, definitely something he seems to have moved away from over time.
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>>22098479
Mazinga!
*Audience laughs*
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>>22098479
Remember, kids: soft G is okay, hard R will get you rocket punched.
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I had a Cuban neighbor once who named his dog Zeta. I thought this was gang related, as he was very much the type, but then he told me it was this show he loved as a kid called Machinza Zeta.
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>>22102008
>I thought this was gang related
Least racist american.
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>>22102010
No, as in he was previously established to have gang connections.
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>>22098479
Mazinger
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>>22101695
Shame that the first mao dante manga will never have an ending and in nagai's original artstyle.
>>22100500
Where did you get pic. related? I already got all of the original unedited mazinger z from this italian edition "https://hastateam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11800" , but i never found the end of the mazinger army arc with its original drawings.
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>>22103555
>https://hastateam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11800
That is indeed the original SJ and TV chapters in their rightful order. Notice that the Hell King Gordon chapter is completely absent from that collection.
>but i never found the end of the mazinger army arc with its original drawings.
It's from a different edition, but I only have the first volume in English and the second one in Japanese.
https://gofile.io/d/68oFPU
https://gofile.io/d/EMhL2Z
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>>22104979
>It's from a different edition, but I only have the first volume in English and the second one in Japanese.
>https://gofile.io/d/68oFPU
>https://gofile.io/d/EMhL2Z
Thanks. Also, i don't mind if one is in japanese.
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>>22098479
Mazinga
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The whole cast and Aniki say Majinga. It's Majinga.
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>>22098925
it need a G in the name cause the letter G is the most /m/
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>>22108107
That's how they pronounce Mazinger.
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>>22098479
The base design idea of Mazinger is based on Jinns, so Majinger would be more appropriate even in english
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>>22108477
No not really.
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>>22108107
They say Majingaa, not Majinga.
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>>22101707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDj1KTha8go
best narrator
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>>22101505
>forgetting about you and us and all its fans
Ourzinger.
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>>22099341
>>22099380
>>22099859
Pronunciation isn't a fixed point, but a range. Like how ん is pronounced more like N at the end of words and more like M before consonant (which is where you get "sempai"), but most non-linguists regard it as one sound.
This isn't a Japanese thing, there are a dozen different ways to pronounce "a" that English speakers switch between without even thinking about.

So じ sounds like a J if it's spoken harshly, and the Z in "azure" if it's spoken softly.
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>>22101543
>>22101557
IIRC stressed "chi" and stressed "shi" are pronounced identically in the Tokyo Standard dialect, but have distinct sounds in other parts of the country. Not the same sounds either - some places are completely swapped from each other.
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>>22098479
Magic Nigga
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>>22111144
Murzyn-ga Z
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>waiting for someone to bring up "Godzilla"
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>>22111144
based
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>>22112996
yeah, how did Gojira become godzilla?
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>>22114125
Retard.
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>>22114194
I didn't ask for your name, dumbass
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>>22114125
Romanization systems for use by Japanese people need to write じ and ぢ differently so that they map 1:1, and the pronunciation of those characters wasn't always the same

Two Ls to stop people pronouncing the i as "eye"
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>that one old shitpost about Japan having made its controllers with R for Reft and L for Light
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>always endearing to see some iconic/recurring kikaiju in the original material
>the two OG guys, giant bull, fan thing, water rabbit
>and this fucking smiling retard stoplight wheel
I'm so excited you have no idea
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>>22114196
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>>22114125
How did Kagari become Cagalli? How did Karen become Kallen? How did Maveric become Mavellic?
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>>22115523
Japanese spell L as R, B as V and vice versa
But do they spell 'DZ' as 'J'?
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>>22115993
Retard.
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>>22115481
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>>22116136
Well, I finally got the context of Koji bullying the wheelchair girl, at least.
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>>22116288
Oh, it's one of those episodes...
You know. For kids!
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>>22098479
Neither. It's マジンガー
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>>22115995
I told you that I'm not asking for your name, dumbass
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>Koji's the only one who can stop Dr Hell and volcano plan
>Yumi and Sayaka both agree that Koji should stop rescuing Sayaka from the rubble
This is technically the correct decision but still feels distressing
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>>22116288
For a goofy mecha anime, Mazinger really loves to punch you in the heart sometimes.
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>>22119997
Shiro is an underrated shota
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>>22119997
70s anime didn't fuck around.
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I watched 2 episodes of Z today and damn I expected to watch some outdated ancient anime but it I was hooked
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>>22120211
Watch more anime.
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>>22120244
i watched hundreds
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>>22120245
Rookie numbers
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>>22120272
Not really a big anime fan.
I just only watch mecha shows that I find interesting
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>>22116288
It's not a proper Japanese kids show unless someone gets crucified.
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>>22120277
Fair enough, I'll let you off with a warning this time. But next time I see you pulling off an "it looks old!!!" I'll take you in.
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>>22120282
but it's old, not in a bad way
I watched 80s and 90s anime that looked MUCH worse (Baldios, Tekkaman Blade, etc..)
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>>22120284
That's it you are going to jail.
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>>22120287
It's over... for you
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>>22116288
Why did Nagai's shows love the cross so much?
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>>22120670
because he's a shock jock
did you never read Mao Dante?
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>>22120685
I read it loooooong time ago and I only remember that it was about Satan being misunderstood and valid and god is le unfair evil guy

as a religious man, I found it retarded and Nagai didn't do research on satan properly
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>>22120688
I agree that Nagai didn't do research but I disagree that he needed to. Pretty obvious that the whole thing was a shitpost
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>>22120701
not sure if it was a shitpost since he he used it to make Devilman (where Satan is also misunderstood and god is an evil guy) but Devilman's story and ending made it worth reading
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>>22120705
I just take all of Nagai's output into consideration. Most of his work seems like an attempt to figure out how much tits and gore he could get published in syndicated manga magazines. That's basically all Violence Jack was, just nonstop gore and rape, and obviously there's similar stuff in works like Devilman and Enma-kun. Nagai is an edgelord, it is what it is
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>>22120670
>>22120685
Hownew.ru?
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>>22098498
Isao's version is so good
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>>22120670
Because it's an easily recognizable and striking image

>>22120705
Wow you did not understand Devilman at all, did you.
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>>22120688
>as a religious man, I found it retarded and Nagai didn't do research on satan properly
Nagai did his research, he just wanted to piss off the religious types trying to get his manga banned. The moral is supposed to be "never assume that people are good just because of their position in society (priests/cops/teachers/etc.), because that can and will be abused; also history was written by the winners".

He also did a proper adaptation of the Divine Comedy.
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>>22120748
Man am I glad that Mazinger is some of his more kid friendly work, if it was as edgy as Violence Jack or Devilman it wouldn't have become the major mecha franchise that it is today.
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>>22120688
>>22120701
Ironically, it’s you who should do your research into religion.
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>>22121778
Maou Dante is a story stating that demons were the original inhabitants of Earth and that God and his minions were ancient aliens that came and wiped out the demons with the exception of Maou Dante who was sealed

What religion is it that you're asking me to research here? Scientology? Mormonism? I believe in a real faith, champ, not this aliens crap
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>>22121789
>faith
>real
lel
anyway, weak troll attempt
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>>22121797
>acts like a smart-ass
>bets btfo immediately
>goes to speak like a retard
Lol
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>>22121789
It’s gnosticism you fucking retard
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>>22121817
Ah, well that's a heresy you don't see too much of anymore. I see the parallels. It's actually kinda funny how appropriate it is to portray the protagonists as demons given a cursory glance at the theology
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>>22121835
Shut up and get out you know nothing brainlet, don’t make us suffer any more of your low iq takes
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>>22121843
call me a brainlet all you want, you're the one who wasted time studying a religion only practiced by retards
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>>22121789
Holy fucking brainlets.
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Are any of you guys surprised by how long this mecha franchise has managed to remain afloat? It's been around since the 70s and yet it hasn't faded into irrelevancy yet.
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>>22121852
>studying a religion only practiced by retards
That's every, religion.

*Tips fedora*
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>>22122253
says who
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>>22122418
Is it said by God? Or is it said by the Devil?
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>>22122253
Mazinger is completely Obscure to zoomers, sadly
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>>22122737
I'm a Zoomer and I know about it though, watched some of the 70s episodes and plan to finish the entire thing one day, along with having seeing the Kaiser OVA's and half of Shin.
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>>22121464
Why is he using the transcendent for his shitty seething about the material, then?
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>>22101753
He is in fact called Mazinga here in Italy
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>>22124677
That’s unfortunate
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>>22124677
>watching hurricane polymar
>all the comments are from italians
I was born in the wrong country.
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>>22124726
I hate works that only look at the anime side of things. How in the fuck can you even begin to have a non-retard take without looking into the manga side of things? You can’t.
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>>22124693
The relationship between Italy and anime is quite curious. From the 1970s to the early 2000s every kid grew up watching anime exclusively, to the point that the term anime wasn't even used, they were simply called cartoons because there were no western cartoon to distinguish them from. Then from the late 2000s anime started being faded out from TV and nowadays no one watches them anymore, especially not kids, while in other countries they get more and more popular every year. I was born in 1995, grew up watching all sorts of anime (mostly Dragon Ball but also Gundam, Lupin, Pollon, Knights of the Zodiac). My mom and uncle born in the early 70s also grew up watching anime. I started teaching in high school this year and talking to the students I realized that the younger ones watched absolutely 0 anime, only the 18-19 year olds remember some Dragon Ball stuff, and people who watch anime are treated like weirdo nerds. It's quite sad.
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>>22124737
Porcoddio...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvS1_KudiFE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjz6yYJwGiU
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>>22098784
Machine is pronounced Mashin in Japanese. Not Mazin or Majin.
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>>22124737
That's really curious, the manga market is still quite strong as far as I know. They don't even watch stuff like Bleach or One Piece? Are they still aired on public TV?
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>>22128778
And? Are you too stupid to understand?
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https://twitter.com/0774nanasi/status/1703368152376352815
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>>22129766
>Mazinger with black arms and blue legs
is this what it means to go even further beyond?
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>>22129815
With grey/white hands to boot
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>>22129815
>>22129820
>black arms, blue legs
>red lined eyes
>white horns
>white hands
>bottom of pilder is blue
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>>22129931
Blue neck as well
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>>22129931
prease undastando, purastiku injekushon hardo
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https://twitter.com/fujihiro_i/status/1702974822412955940
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>>22130047
Very nice but I prefer the rounded pyro plates
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>>22129766
Just Fuck My Mazinga Up
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>>22122253
Mazinger keeps getting content in the form of srw games. From 1991 to 2019 it gets like 2-3 new stories every year.
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>>22122253
How was Mazinger's 50th anniversary celebrated last year anyways?
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>>22131039
With our dear friends at /m/, of course
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>>22131039
Dynamic hacks didn't do anything except signing contracts for new toys

Worst 50th celebration of all time
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>>22131068
With Ichiro Mizuki passing away in the final month of 2022 as the ultimate insult to injury
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https://twitter.com/TakatoShimada/status/1698745004280447112
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>>22131068
That fucking blows, it's nearly a century old and they did nothing to celebrate it?
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>>22132285
I don't remember any 50th anniversary celebration for Devilman either
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>>22098479
Its canon name is MACHINER
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>>22132640
マシーン ≠ マジン
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>Ashura shrinks into nothingness out of shame, because they failed to deliver data recordings, as well as actually look at and remember anything about it during this arms race
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>>22133206
Reminding me of the other side of the spectrum where Ashura and Dr Hell enlarged a kid's toy robot as a motw in one episode
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>>22133472
I liked the cannon one where it wasn't kikaiju-centric. The toy one was good insofar as "they're doing things other than kikaiju-centric", which can be a nice change of pace...
>cursing Ashura's incompetence and telling them they'll eventually have to take responsibility
>actually saying he's glad Ashura's ok and safe
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>>22133495
I wish later series kept the Hell gang actually caring for one another.
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>>22132285
>>22132302
Yeah, Dynamic Pro doesn't do shit for anniversaries, at least not in recent memory. The last big anniversary they did any for I know about was Go's 80th Bday
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>>22134471
Dr. Hell only cares about his conquest.
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>>22135067
>Dynamic Pro doesn't do shit for anniversaries
>what is crybaby
>what is infinity
>what is universe
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>>22135077
Yeah, they all came out for Go's 80th bday, the anniversary I mentioned>>22135077
All realised for the same anniversary, that being Go's 50th Anniversary as a creator, which I somehow managed to mix up as his 80th birthday.
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>>22134471
>>22135071
Me too, anon. Dr Hell seemed to legitimately care for them in Shin, even calling them his kawaii lieutenants or something similar. Zero had a moment where he cared about Brocken, before uh
Uh
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https://twitter.com/grendizer_anime/status/1704674571922911281
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https://twitter.com/KyodaiA/status/1703101642621468883
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>>22136221
Kaiser is so cool. Someone should name a sandwich after it.
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>>22136224
With a cool song as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzf8_7z7kMw
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>>22136221
Why does he always get the coolest robots?
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>>22136281
Because he is Kabuto Koji, no other reason needed
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>>22136281
Best bots
Best bros
Best girl
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Alien Mazinger
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>>22098479
Multidimensional
Automaton
Zillion
Infinity
Neural
Generative
Exterminate
Reverter
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>>22138619
What does that spell out?
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>>22139259
Grendizer
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>impostor Yumi feeding fake info about kikaiju episode
>"do NOT use rust hurricane, it will NOT work"
>figure it'll come up as its weakness
>no, it is merely thrown or smashed too many times and melts down
I was expecting something like "Wait Koji listen, did my impostor say anything about attacks that would NOT work against it" "good thinking, professor", but I guess they just forgot? Next ep is Ghostfire though, it's neat to see kikaiju you recognize have their debut episodes.
Also Prof Yumi was willing to kill himself without a moment's hesitation if it was going to hold Mazinger back, he's a good person, just has to make difficult calls...
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>>22139849
Wasted potential is inevitable in a series as long as Toei Mazinger.
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>>22139849
>WTF THEY DIDN'T GO FOR THE PREDICTABLE OUTCOME??? THIS IS FUCKING WASTED POTENTIAL
Shut the up.
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>>22140946
>>22140988
I mean, I thought that's what they were going for... so I guess it's just something cute that was hinted and unseen, of "Ashura tried to hide the rust hurricane weakness and thankfully no one noticed"?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mnpz-D5T_s
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>>22098479
mazinger zeta
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>>22120670
This motif wasn't exclusive to Go Nagai, a lot of Japanese genre films used it too.
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Bazinger
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What went so wrong?
Why did it fail to be successful like Mazinger Z, Getter Robo and Grendizer?
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>>22145284
Does Grendizer have non-crabstick subs yet?
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>>22146877
yes
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>>22146866
Great never beaten his final boss for one.
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>>22146866
>Beloved work runs for 90 episodes
>Ending arrives
>Hero fails
>New guy shows up out of nowhere to save the day
>"I'm better than you fuck off I'm the hero now"
gee I wonder
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>>22147159
He never said that.
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https://hjweb.jp/article/1172399/
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https://twitter.com/Shams_Qamar_JP/status/1705482244587245747
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Mazin Go
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I am vibrating with excitement for Grendizer
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>>22149040
We are so fucking back bros
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>>22151165
inshallah degozaimasu
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>>22100508
Correct. Hepburn vs Nihon-Shiki transliteration fucks people up. じ/ジ is rendered as Zi in Nihon-Shiki, so Mazin would look perfectly fine to the Japanese reading English.
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>>22151346
Hepburn is kind of funny sometimes. I think the real takeaway is that languages will never be 1:1.
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