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Sp this is Ace (originali forma)?
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>>21578178
if so, this will make him the first rider that had not not been Japanese, at least for his first life.
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>>21578128
MK2 was way cooler in this episode than in the last one. The Ziin fight sucked though.
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What do you think of Ace's outfits this episode?
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>>21578494
Every Sengoku outfit makes them look like different characters
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>>21578128
While I liked this episode, it doesn't make sense how keiwa and neon could pull moves like that. Glad boost mk2 got a better fight today last episodes fight was horrendous
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>>21578178
>Ace wasn't a Roman
>he was actually a Gaul
Disgusting
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>>21578494
Ace looks great with the longer haircut desu.
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I don't get the point of giving the DGP side swords if they're going to just use their drivers after 10 seconds
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>>21578544
Daichi has a habit of making silly faces for screenshots doesn't he
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>>21578579
It's to prepare himself on being the Q3 antagonist or final boss.
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>>21578533
>Ace is invincible because of the Potion
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>>21578601
>Asterix
>Ase trix
>Ace tricks
NANI
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>>21578603
It's really funny how the Desaster plot was kind of pointless. Like obviously that's the point, but everyone's just kind of chill with Neon again.
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>>21578614
Some things you do not want to know about your hero
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>>21578621
Another middling performance by Geats
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>>21578621
God, Boost Mk II and Boost Laser are really his mid season upgrades huh?
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>>21578492
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>>21578573
It's a Sakamoto episode, newfrens.
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>>21578662
Yup
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>>21578616
I wish for the power to make all furfags yiff in Hell
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>>21578703
It feels too early still. Geats is such a weird show.
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>>21578609
>Like obviously that's the point
Not really, that's a cope. They could've given it some impact and real repercussions after wasting so much focus and screentime on it if they really wanted to, but they didn't.

And before someone comes to justify it with the Beroba team subplot, that developed almost independently from the Dezastar plot, save for that one episode where Niram confronts Michinaga and reinstates him into the current DGP only for that to be thrown aside for the JGP which is seemingly lasting only 6 episodes (counting from the episode Beroba gets the Vision Driver) and 2 games.
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>>21578718
Geats is already over halfway done, next week is episode 28.
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>>21578494
Ace is far better with long hair
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>>21578718
Metal Cluster debuted in ep 22 (with the Q2 sword appearing in ep 24), Elemental debuted in 27, Revice (Thunder Gale) debuted in ep 28. MKII and and Laser Boost debuting at this point of Geats isn't really early at all
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>>21578724
That’s what I mean though, the show’s halfway done but it feels like nothing’s happened
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>>21578712
You will never defeat Geats' final furm
Stay mad buffa
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Are the ninja clothes Keiwa is wearing the same clothes from the upcoming movie by Sakamoto Ninja vs Shark?
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>>21578739
Outside of the sleeveless Gi I legit think it's the same costume that's being reused from the movie he just filmed.
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>>21578731
I think it's the DGP format, the whole show kept resetting every few episodes while the characters' goals and the wider stakes have remained constant. All that's really happened is the side characters, like Lopo and PunkJack, have cycled in-and-out, and there's been a dripfeed of details about what the status quo actually is to clarify it while we see it get reset and repeated. The JGP is the first thing to really happen that's disrupted anything to a meaningful degree
I don't think it's a bad thing on the face of it, but I think it's contributing to a feeling of all the core characters being super one-note. That's partly why the Desaster just being thrown to the wayside is frustrating, it was a real opportunity to shake up their dynamics and (for Neon at least) reorient their goals, but now it might as well have not happened
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>>21578750
I think the actual problem is that it didn't commit to the format. We haven't gotten a 2nd wish yet, due to all the resets and interruptions.
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>>21578755
Because Geats can't not-win in his own show, I guess
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>>21578494
Not as /fa/ as Neon's
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>>21578605
As if TakaHACKshi would be familiar with peak fiction
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>>21578731
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>>21578755
It's the eventual consequence of deciding to make the show with this gimmick, but even so they should have found a way to make it more interesting. I noticed people ended up liking Buffa recently because he's got more to do, and it did make me realize that everyone else is just doing the exact same thing they were from the start. Every character besides Beroba's gang and Ziin are static, and this cast is tremendous, so that's a lot of characters not changing or growing at all.
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>>21578609
She didn't choose to be put in that position.
It'd have been very retarded to hate another player just for playing after spending half the show not doing so.

>>21578722
It outright wasn't a subplot. It was just the game they happened to play. You people were just retarded for not paying attention to the multiple plot threads that moved during that time.
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>>21578834
>It outright wasn't a subplot
>except for all the drama sprung from it like Daichi accusing Keiwa and Lopo eliminating herself for Neon's sake

>It was just the game they happened to play
The games they happened to play were shit like the school, ball and fruit bomb games. The DezaStar shit was a subplot, and it carried over to all of those games creating drama that went nowhere.

>for not paying attention to the multiple plot threads that moved during that time.
You're just proving that it was waste of time by pointing out the other plot threads that did end up having an impact.
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>>21578609
>>21578722
Probably would be the most skippable arc in a long time if it didn't have beroba and plotting glasses boy that was introduced so he could join beroba later
Now that I think about it. You could actually skip the entire arc and watch that explosion aftermath "recap" episode and be fine
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>>21578834
>It outright wasn't a subplot. It was just the game they happened to play
What a retarded thing to say. The whole DGP has just been 'games they happened to play', that's been the plot up until very recently, and the Desaster was a sub-plot that gave the characters additional material (both direct actions and character interactions) in addition to that, while not actually having a significant impact on the 'main' plot
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>>21578573
as we saw this ep. the GM uses the Vision Driver to alter reality and set the different games, she could have left the DGP side literally naked and at the Jamato's mercy, but surely the idea is that she wants for the DGP riders to fall into despair after a fight, and certainly she would have gotten to that goal already if it werent for Ace.

>>21578845
the whole point of World 3 and the Dezaster plot was to develop Keiwa and Neon further. in Keiwa's case, for him to understand to be more aggresive in a literal death game, and for Neon to learn to be more honest with people.

>>21578614
its clear that Ziin is supposed to be a commentary on the actual audience of this shows, who want to see how the characters story ends, specially their faves. and how some fanboys can take that to unhealthy extremes. but its gonna be interesting how they are gonna handle the endgame of that commentary next week.
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>>21578865
>the whole point of World 3 and the Dezaster plot was to develop Keiwa and Neon further. in Keiwa's case, for him to understand to be more aggresive in a literal death game, and for Neon to learn to be more honest with people.
None of this happened and both characters feel exactly the same as they were from the start
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>>21578865
>as we saw this ep. the GM uses the Vision Driver to alter reality and set the different games, she could have left the DGP side literally naked and at the Jamato's mercy, but surely the idea is that she wants for the DGP riders to fall into despair after a fight, and certainly she would have gotten to that goal already if it werent for Ace
God, what a way to overthink the use of swords when it's just part of this whimsical Sengoku motif for the game and a way for Sakamoto to do his trademark civilian action.
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>>21578901
Imagine what it would feel like being Ace, wanting to reconnect with your mum and uncover all these mysteries about your life, but knowing there's some creepy possessive otaku from the future looking over your shoulder at every intimate moment, going over it with a fine tooth comb and acting like a human version of Twitch chat. I'm surprised he hasn't really gone off at Ziin yet.
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>>21578914
Ace's a pseudoimmortal, clearly he has extremely large patience. but tbf, he has already called Ziin out on his creepiness twice.
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Does Kamen Rider Geats count as an isekai?
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>>21578845
>except for all the drama sprung from it like Daichi accusing Keiwa and Lopo eliminating herself for Neon's sake
Literally the game.
>The games they happened to play were shit like the school, ball and fruit bomb games.
and dezastar

>You're just proving that it was waste of time by pointing out the other plot threads that did end up having an impact.
That's what you should've been focusing on if you werent retarded, we were saying this before the actual desastar was revealed.

>>21578857
>The whole DGP has just been 'games they happened to play'
Yes, a part of which was the dezastar.

Its just sunk cost at this point. We knew since the begining it wouldn't have large implications.
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>>21578914
If I was Ace I would have gotten over my mommy issues by the third life I spent with a loving mother.
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>>21578980
I hope Ace is actually somewhat supernatural. His reincarnations are not normal, and they are not the result of a wish he made.
It would explain why he wants to ask his mom why he exists.
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>>21578967
>That's what you should've been focusing on if you werent retarded, we were saying this before the actual desastar was revealed
>"You shouldn't be also focusing on the running subplot the show was focusing on the most during the arc"

>Its just sunk cost at this point
Expecting the show to do something interesting and impactful with a subplot it wasted so much time following is stupid now? You sound like a bootlicker now.
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>>21578998
he's a common rider vulvafag coping common rider gayts is good after his unga bunga husbando died in his v cinema. what did you expect
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>>21578998
>Expecting the show to do something interesting and impactful with a subplot it wasted so much time following is stupid now?
Never said this.
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>>21579011
Don't play stupid now, you brought up the sunk-cost fallacy while calling everyone retards.
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>>21578997
Ace's mom is the so called Goddess of genesis, Aka: Mitsume. and Ziin just confirmed that indeed, Ace's first shot at the DGP was around Year 0 AD. so yeah, he is not a full human.

as to why a goddess from 0 AD decided to join a bunch of weirdoes from the future, abandon her son and agree to become a statue (if she even actually agreed to that) for the purpose of making a TV show, is anyone's guess...
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>>21578757
Yeah, it's basically established that Geats always wins, but at same time him winning every round and stacking more and more wishes would get dull so after one win they started coming up with reasons to stall the eventual win.
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>>21578865
>as we saw this ep. the GM uses the Vision Driver to alter reality and set the different games, she could have left the DGP side literally naked and at the Jamato's mercy,

Then they would have just instantly henshined. The Vision Driver can't just completely take away someones ability to be a Rider or otherwise instawin otherwise Glare and Gazer would have just done that when they were fighting Riders early on.
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>>21578997
The episode says Reincarnations are a regular thing people just usually don't remember them. It could be supernatural or it could just be that his desire to see his original mother again is so strong in transcends lifetimes.
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>>21579065
People have tossed around the idea that the "Goddess" is just someone they stick into the statue and Mitsume was original just a navigator but was given the role when the previous Goddess was no longer viable. It's been mentioned that types like Beroba have taken the Goddess before but couldn't do anything with her because they didn't have the drivers.

She does seem to be one of the future people though, so Ace is a hybrid of one of the people from the future having a kid with one of the locals in ancient Rome.
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>>21579019
> you brought up the sunk-cost fallacy while calling everyone retards.
Yes, which is not the same as saying you shouldn't expect a subplot to be interesting.
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>>21579104
If you aren't backpedaling right now, then I don't know what the fuck were you arguing before because the complaint you were firing against was that of the the DezaStar subplot being uninteresting especially because it didn't lead to a significant development despite all the time the show spent on it.
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>>21579169
>was that of the the DezaStar subplot being uninteresting especially because it didn't lead to a significant development despite all the time the show spent on it.
That it wasn't a subplot.
It was a game in the series of games the characters played.
An actual traitor subplot would have the traitor acting on their own volition and the one that instigated it wouldn't tell the people being betrayed about what's happening.
Neon(or whoever would end up being) didn't betray anyone, she was just told to play a different game than the rest.
All of this was known the second the desastar plot was introduced and if you wasted your time thinking it would something else at that point its your problem.

The plot you were expecting happened in revice with the chameleon deadman. Neon's isn't that.
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too much foreigner shit in this. im dropping geats. now he's a reincarnated white dude? booooring

i bet he's that stupid white dude from the other episodes too
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>>21579098
>Geats is actually just Kamen Rider Black for the Reiwa period
>next season is Geats RX trying to find his father but his dad is an alcoholic so Geats has Shuten Doji powers instead of Tamamo powers
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>>21579184
>That it wasn't a subplot
Just because you say it isn't, doesn't make it not a subplot. It's fucking subplot, driving the actions of every player during that arc because their goals are on the line.

>An actual traitor subplot would have the traitor acting on their own volition and the one that instigated it wouldn't tell the people being betrayed about what's happening.
The whole thing has everyone doing suspicious shit to keep you guessing who's the one sabotaging, and Neon did do some direct sabotaging by secretly throwing fruit bombs at Ace and Keiwa. On top of that, Neon actually didn't tell anyone she was the DezaStar, the people who eventually knew figured that out through certain events.

>The plot you were expecting happened in revice with the chameleon deadman
No, what I was expecting was an interesting subplot that could've impacted the dynamic of the characters in a significant way and/or could've led to interesting memorable moments. There's hundreds of different ways they could've done that, but they didnt.
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>>21579233
>and Neon did do some direct sabotaging by secretly throwing fruit bombs at Ace and Keiwa
And also trying to turn Keiwa against Ace.
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>>21579218
He's a reincarnated everything apparently. He'd been British, Italian, Chinese, etc
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>Michinaga actually admits that his Jamato friend is nothing but a hollow copy of the original
Damn, and here I thought he really fell for the trick.
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>>21579401
For once in his life, he wasn't a complete retard.
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>>21579357
Monster I get because Nadge had it, but where did Beroba get a second Magnum? I was under the impression that there was only one of each buckle bar Fever. I know it's because in reality they only have one set of every armor's top and bottom, but still.
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>>21579424
she probably can create spare buckles as the GM via the visiondriver, or thats one of the unique functions the Gazer/Glare system has when the user transforms.
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>>21579480
The suit looks perfectly fine from some angles but awful from others. I don't get it.
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>>21578544
Everytime I see Daichii I can't help but think of that stupid chud meme
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I wonder why I'm having issues ith Izusubs videos for some weeks, they work fine with my old notebook, but when I plug the hdmi cable for my tv it lags or lose audio. Is this because of outdated codecs?
It's happening the same thing with the recent Game Center CX subbed episodes, both are .mkv format, any MP4 video works fine with my tv + cable.
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>>21579528
I can already see a fusion between this and Buffa's suit
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>>21578128
Would he still say henshin or ECTO PHASE ACTIVATE?
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>>21579677
COMMON RIDER
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>>21579677
>>21579699
>mfw when Americans call bio shift stimulate ecto phase activate
>mfw when Americans call musket raider common rider
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For me, it's METAMORPHING
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>>21579709
>puts on belt
FURRIMUS MAXIMUS

MAGNUM
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>exposed shoulders
Beroba best girl
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>you get a handie from Beroba
>but she will use her ojisan hand
Are you in, or are you out?
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>>21579751
She's 15 you pedo
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>>21579789
Worse, her ancestors aren't even fetuses yet.
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>>21578967
>Its just sunk cost at this point. We knew since the begining it wouldn't have large implications.
I don't know about 'large', but I hoped it'd have some lasting impact just at all.
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>>21579789
Out of 10
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>>21579751
It is just a advanced fake fingerprint, not like a full on liquid ocelot arm swap.
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>>21578178
>The oldest main Rider
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So...did Ace have sex and maybe kids?
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>>21579878
Yes, Keiwa will be one of his descendants.
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>all those Aces
Imagine if Geats's future movie is just this, maybe with all of Geats forms to differentiate
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>>21579677
HONSHIN!
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>>21579885
I fully expect near the end of the series for all five of Ace's incarnations to fight together once.
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>>21579233
>Just because you say it isn't, doesn't make it not a subplot.
Good thing I explained why then.

>The whole thing has everyone doing suspicious shit to keep you guessing who's the one sabotaging, and Neon did do some direct sabotaging by secretly throwing fruit bombs at Ace and Keiwa.
Yeah, that was Neon's objective, no need to tell me that, I actually do pay attention.

>On top of that, Neon actually didn't tell anyone she was the DezaStar
Because she'd have lost the game, which is the exact opposite of what she was trying to do, yeah.

>No, what I was expecting was an interesting subplot that could've impacted the dynamic of the characters in a significant way and/or could've led to interesting memorable moments.
You have the actual plot of the show for that.
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>>21579972
They will NEVER let a gaijin henshin onscreen, Tom.
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>>21580166
Psyga, KyoryuCyan
Also if you want to look at things politically, which should have no place in toku to be honest, Japan just set up an agreement with the UK to start a new United Nations 2.0 that omits belligerent countries like Russia and China so Tom being British would put him on very good terms with Japan right now
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>>21580166
They already have. Many times.
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I don't care about any of those people.
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what would victorian DGP play like
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>>21580348
Jack the ripper was just a cover story for Jyamato attacks.
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>>21580348
entire rounds of 60 people get disqualified within ten minutes for having too-severe diarrhea problems
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>>21580059
>Good thing I explained why then
You didn't, you just autistically explained the way you think a traitor subplot has to go like. Just to not hurt your poor brain, consider it something else other than traitor subplot, but it's still a subplot.

>You have the actual plot of the show for that
I didn't have that for the heroes' side (which has the most characters including the protagonist himself and constitutes most of the episodes' screentime) during that whole stretch.
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>>21580432
>you just autistically explained the way you think a traitor subplot has to go like
What's the other way? Because any sort of traitor subplot has to have some betrayal at some point, its not autistic to think so.

> Just to not hurt your poor brain, consider it something else other than traitor subplot, but it's still a subplot.
Goes both ways, you can consider that maybe the writer didn't think the exact thing you expected.

>I didn't have that for the heroes' side (which has the most characters including the protagonist himself and constitutes most of the episodes' screentime) during that whole stretch.
Same as previous statement, you're considering plot development only valid if it directly concerns the main cast.
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>We might be able to get a Showa Era Ace in the summer movie
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>>21580489
>What's the other way? Because any sort of traitor subplot has to have some betrayal at some point, its not autistic to think so.
This could've gone a fuckton of different ways. Make the sabotage more prominent, have deceptive plays that actually leave a lasting impact on the relationships between the main trio or at least lead to critical moments, show Neon in more distress by idk having her dad pressure her or Chirami making it so that the player she wins against as DezaStar gets the wish penalty she'd get if they found her out. There's a bunch of ways and they're not necessarily just the ones I just came up with here.

>Goes both ways, you can consider that maybe the writer didn't think the exact thing you expected
The only thing I was expecting was the fucking plot surrounding the main cast to actually leave a lasting impression. The writer failed at that and only the subplot with the villains (which was the part with less focus and screentime) achieved that in some way.

>Same as previous statement, you're considering plot development only valid if it directly concerns the main cast.
It's the fucking main cast, of course someones expects something significant to happen between them during an arc spanning several episodes.
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Hold up hold up I've seen this fucking fetish before, Ziin has the fucking kemohero kemoryona fetish. He fucking faps to the idea of his foxy superhero Ace dying heroically in battle, I've seen this degeneracy amongst Japanese people.

Ziin ACTUALLY wants Ace to die but only in a way that will satisfy his degeneracy.
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This guy literally reeks of heroyarare and kemoryona fetishism.
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>>21581256
I dislike that I had to look up those terms. I dislike even more that I now know those terms.
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>>21581314
It's common amongst Asians who are really REALLY into superheroes
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>>21581299
>I want to witness Ace's death
>>21581256
>wait no, not like that
Getting some mixed messages here, my guy.
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>>21581319
Because Ace getting killed whilst out cold or not struggling or fighting for his life is not a money shot for Ziin and therefore would be the greatest cockblock.
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When Michinaga eventually gets hold of Beroba's giant cg bull form, I hope he does the little idol twirl she does when using it too
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>>21581256
He doesn't necesarily want Ace to die, but if he does, he wants his death to be emotional. It's like how us Rider fans want our heroes to either have an emotional victory or an impactful death at the end of their stories.
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>>21580687
Honestly when you think about it, all of this is Niram's fault for putting a fucking clown in charge of a game with extremely real consequences. She stole the driver because he wanted to get ratings up and now in trying to fix his fuck-up despite having absolutely no plan or powers he's given her the ability to actually USE it.

And those fucking helmets can go on any rider, if she really wanted to fuck with Ziin she could hijack Geats and make them fight. All because Niram said Giori being salty was bad for metrics.
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2000s years and this fox still hasn't won what a loser. Tendou is the only good op rider
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>>21581551
Some needs to do this for kuga so we can see the difference
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>>21579526
A shame we'll probably never see OG Glare again. It has the best standby music of the three.
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>>21581551
Now do one only counting the time when it's actually a bike.
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>>21581877
Gazers is the best, Glare sounds like menu music
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>>21580348
"I wish for the sun to never set on the British Empire"
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>>21582168
I'd eat Boost Mk II
I mean I'd eat Geats
I mean I'd eat instant Fox
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What was with Keiwa suddenly being 10x as athletic as before in this episode
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>>21582382
He was kinda already before as seen with him and Neon teaming up to get back their driver (that one time Geats was shown getting eliminated).
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>>21582382
Sakamoto Magic
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Is it just me or the haha I'll go retrieve my driver whoops I got captured again and got my fingerprints scanned oh no how can this be was kinda forced?
I seriously hope Chirami is doing this on purpose because c'mon man.
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Isn't it kind of fucked up that Ace only cares about his 2000 years old first mom and doesn't give a single shit about all the other families and parents and mothers or friends and what-not he's had through all his reincarnations?
That's two thousand years of being a hyperfocused super mothercon.
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>>21583841
Amazing.
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>>21583926
In all fairness, the first life presumably made a wish that he would reincarnate in the bid that if he couldn't find his mom, his next life would. Remember that his incarnations would have zero knowledge or memory of anything related to the DGP until he accepts the ID core. It's likely that regaining all of his memories overwrites whatever personality he had before.
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>>21581505
Getting rid of Girori is a good choice, putting a fucking idiot to replace him was the mistake here.
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>>21583990
They kind of make it sound like Reincarnation is something everyone does, Ace just happens to remember his previous lives somehow. He knew about everything before he became a Rider shown with how as a school boy he started beating up Jamato without hesitation, something that people watching the DGP always found odd.
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>>21581505
That's probably the point. Niram got careless after so many years of the game running fine, and put a total idiot in charge who would care more about ratings than fighting the Jamato and protecting their secrets because he didn't take Giori's warnings seriously.
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>>21578128
Great episode
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>>21586058
Incorrect.
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>>21586067
You're right. It's an awesome episode
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>>21584177
>who would care more about ratings than fighting the Jamato
The Jyamato were just an asset of the DGP's game show. It was a fabricated fight, it was always about the ratings.
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>>21583926
What if his mother was the one who granted him basically eternal reincarnation and he wants to know why she put him through 2000+ years of suffering. Maybe we'll even get a fuck you mom.
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>>21578492
This
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>>21586092
nta, but while you are right, the fact remains that Girori did realized that the jamato were evolving and becoming more and more stronger, and that them, and Archimedell, needed to be stopped before the situation gets out of hand... which it did.
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>>21579218
you will never be japanese
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>>21579424
The show never specified there was only one of each buckle to be fair, that's more an Adult Circumstances thing to assume that.



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