its really not that bad
>>21575955Everybody left of Judau should have died.
>>21575960His left, my left or your left?
No, it's a great continuation.
>>21575955It really is that bad, there's a reason why it's been forgotten.https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/gundam/ranking/
>>21576035No one has watched it though
>>21575955It’s honestly good
>>21576071Only in the west because it wasn't readily available for a long time. Japan has never had that issue and they don't like it much either.
>>21576071How come Silent Voice song its so popular in japan
>>21575955As someone who actually liked the show as well, I really wish you inbred fucks could just make a normal thread about it instead of loudly declaring what you seem to think is some kind of controversial opinion for the billionth time. Just talk about the show like a non retard.
>>21575955I appreciated the entirety of it after G-Witch S1, not calling it a bad show (it's alright) but I feel like it conditioned me for ZZ's first half which I loved.
>>21576035>0083 at no# 10 despite the abysmal conclusion of flat protagonist getting together with the cucktress among other equally bewilderingly bad narrative choices as ZZ>the legitimately bad gundam series at no# 14 one rank below Turn Aso what is this meant to prove again?
>>21576175I dont remember shit I think I watched it with hongkong subs
Why didn't Ruruka just pilot the main gundam and defeat Zeon?
>>21576215Because Judou was a newtype
>>21576035>IBO over Turn A and 0080wow, this is worthless!
>>21576035Turn A is not even top ten here, this shit is worthless and proves nothing, thanks.
>>21576203ZZ has all the same problems SEED Destiny has with the plot obviously moving the characters like toys in a distracting way, but that happens in ZZ from the start while at least SEED Destiny disguises it for a while.
>>21576203Don't care, the suits were awesome and the concept of bouncing colonies against each other to send one off in direction of the moon and bluffing it back onto earth was cool as shit.It's a fun watch.
You ever have somebody say a character is good because they are 'likeable'? Thats the cast of ZZ.
>>21576035>SEED at 3Based.
>>21575955Bad? it's kino. an better than Zeta in every wayUC grandpas are just tasteless
>>21575955Episode 1~18: 3/10Episode 19~46: 9/10Episode 47: 6.5/10
>>21578052>Episode 19~46: 9/10there were two garbage moon moon-tier episodes among these but I forgot their numbers
>>21575955It could have been much, much, much, much, much worse.
No Char no watchie.
>>21578069I wish Japanese people still preferred serious and dark anime instead of moe gay garbage shit like G-Bitch
>>21578075>serious anime for serious people such as myself
>>21578087>everything must be a funny tranime full of meme face reactions so I can post on reddit and get karma
>>21576035>X is #16 despite 99% of Japan didn't watch itfair enough
Haman and her crew are the most enjoyable part of ZZ.
>>21578127chara and mashymr were pretty cringe clowns.Rakan and second half Glemy were the only good bad guys in ZZ
>>21578127Haman in Z and ZZ might as well be two different characters.
>>21575955This and X need a New Translation movies so bad
>>21578127The ZZ is the most enjoyable part of ZZ
>>21578150That thing looks like a tumor.
>>21578164You sound like a faggot.
>>21578150Best gundam, it's not even a contest.
>>21578150Worst gundam, it's not even a contest.
>>21578213Aerial and Ez8 are worse
>>21578213Exia, Aerial, Seed, Duel, etc.
Hot take. They should have used this as the ZZ Gundam since it looks similar to Zeta more than ZZ itself.
>>21578216>Ez8go away, your shit taste could be contagious
>>21578221too complicated to animate for a low budget tv show prease understand
>>21578224ugly scrap jank>>21578225ZZ is overdesigned and hard to animate too
>>21578221>1980s bayformerHard pass
>>21578234we will never get a Ex-S kit that looks exactly like this
>>215759552nd worst gundam show in the entire franchise>>21575960Judau and Roux were the only likeable characters in the show
>>21575955I enjoyed Endra's crew much more than Argama's at the first section. Also, African shenanigans were the best part of the show.
>>21578150could've been better
>>21578509Watch more anime.
>>21578221According to Koichi Inoue, who was the main decelopment guy at Sunrise when ZZ was being made, they wanted something more recognizable on its own. Since the Z and ZZ shared scenes together during the show, I can understand why they wanted the main Mobile Suit of the show to not look too much like the Zeta and stand out more.Katoki was not allowed to compete in the ZZ design contest, I'm guessing because he was still an unknown at that point, but the Zetaplus was submitted as a design to show up in ZZ but was rejected.
ZZ finally got me to appreciate Zakus
>>21575955Fuck off back to /tv/, this is an anime discussion board.
I tried to watch ZZ and dropped it twice. Why am I so weak?
>>21579757Don't you mean /soc/?
>>21579349looks like they were aware of Great Mazinger case where its toys didn't sell good because they were similar to Mazinger Z's
>>21579758watch Ep 1 and 11 then skip to episode 19 till the end.this is what I did and I ended up loving the show
>>21575955Good god, i bet Leina’s legs are so smooth
>>21575955It had 3 enjoyable arc but the rest was pretty badProbably the Gundam with the worst ratio of good to bad episode that I've watched so far.
>>21575955I'm about 32 episodes into the series, and it's bad, but it's fun and entertaining. Within the last 10 or so episodes, the motivations for the characters have finally started being a little deeper than "We'll show the adults! We're all Newtypes!" And they've even stopped with everyone rotating who is captured by the opposing side for 3-4+ episodes since Leina's death. I am eager to finish it though so I can see another Gundam series. One with better writing, hopefully. Judau is growing on me and Elpeo Ple is pretty alright.Mechabros, if I've seen Mobile Suit Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam: Origins, and Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, what Gundam show should I watch next?
>>21575955It really fucking isn't.
>>21580916I can't find that one on Crunchyroll.
>>21580878why did you skip zeta??
>>21580878watch 08th ms team>>21578150the ZZ was butt ugly. what were they thinking.
>>21575955Who says it's bad? Redditors?
>>21580878well there are plenty of options, did you skip Zeta? weirdanyway you got zeta, Char's counterattack, victory, war in the pocket, F91, etc08th MS team fucking sucks but you should watch it either way, it's short
>>21578127>>21578139>Haman in Zeta>playing off two sides in a civil war in a bid to gain an advantage for her own ends, ends up letting the Titans and AEUG eat each other, while making maneuvers that maximize the better outcomes for her while sacrificing the least amount of people to do it, and moving into the power vacuum that forms>Haman in ZZ>leader of a bunch of clowns, even acknowledging and lamenting how her underlings and the Neo Zeon rank and file are retarded, and in the case of Glemy, some relative nobody snuck under her nose and stole nearly half of her military from right under her, and at the end, the Federation and AEUG did exactly what she did at the end of Zeta, let the enemy kill each other and move in to pick up the scrapsIt's funny, because it puts it into a different context as to why she was more content on letting the AEUG and Titans fight it out. In one of episode of Zeta, Jerid, fucking Jerid, was within a second of killing her after he blew through her ship's compliment of mobile suits before the AEUG flew in and ended up saving her ship. It's not that she was some chessmaster that was more intelligent about using her forces conservatively due to logistical and strategic considerations, she didn't let them loose because they were more of a danger to themselves than they were to anyone else. Judau and his comedy crew clutching out victories against Neo Zeon just makes it look even worse.
Never understood why ZZ gets picked out of the original trilogy of shows in the first place. 0079, Zeta and ZZ just make a ton of sense back to back and compliment each other.>0079 is pretty simple: Feds vs Zeon. Obviously, you have more going on within these factions but it's more or less a war with 2 participants>Zeta expands. Main threat comes from Federation in terms of Titans. AEUG resists the Titans, remnants of Zeon crop up again, and Titans eventually split a bit under different leaders. More complex factions and motivations>ZZ follows it to the logical conclusion. Federation is spent. Titans are done. Zeon threat rises because they were the only faction at the end of Zeta that didn't lose a ton. They build back into power, but suffer because different people try to fill in that power gap within the Zeon groupsIt just works>aieeeeeeee but its too lighthearted for a bit!Fun fact: not everyone that participates in a war is fucking Sergeant Steel "Professional" Rambo. It's entirely reasonable, without shitting yourself, to accept that in some backwoods colony you'd have military that is unprofessional and untrained at the start of ZZ (where basically all the "whacky" stuff happens)
>>21581873Old forum and journo bullshit that keeps being parroted by retards that look for an excuse to skip a show.
>>21581869Whenever Haman ran away crying from Judau after she shot Leina I screamed because they ruined her for me. Kitazume cannot write Haman fuck you dude and fuck CDA.
>>21578102Build Fighters Season 1 made the X mobile suit popular. Japan doesn't care about X anime. But they do like the X Gundam itself.
>>21575955I love it, and also appreciare how it gives birth to the Gundam Team trope.
>>21582449I still want an MG Gundam X Maoh
>>21582449Massive cope.The Mech poll doesn't show Maoh, and DX is voted higher than X.
>>21585231None of this has anything to do what I wrote. Zero.
>>21575955i liked it more than zeta