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>keep hearing Victory is bad
>go in with low expectations
>ends up being completely kino
>liked it more than Zeta

Was I lied to?
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>>21564604
You just have the usual case of shit taste I'm afraid.
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Victory is quite good and similar to Zeta although it had less memorable characters. Chronicle is cool and shakti had a good voice, reinforce jr ramming scene very great
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>>21564604
>****
Fuck off tourist.
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>>21564611
How do you cure shit taste?
I hope it isn't terminal.
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>>21564645
Step one is to stop posting out of a template and using meaningless buzzwords.
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>>21564604
No retard, you just have a different opinión.
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>>21564604
ok

thanks for the 5th blog thread about V Gundam this week
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>>21564604
based. Victory hate is unjustified.
still prefer Zeta more though.
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>>21564604
/m/ has always had a hate boner for Victory and it was mostly about the shading.

Victory Gundam is pretty damn good, even the derpyness, you have good taste OP.

>>21564642
No You!

God, this board has shit the bed even more than I thought possible.
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>>21564604
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE
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>>21564645
Don't listen to that idiot. V gundam is top tier.
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>>21564604
Yeah the hate for v is VERY overblown. It has issues but its easily among the best the franchise has to offer.
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>>21564623
Why did Chronicle wear panties on his face?
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>>21566692
>/m/ has always had a hate boner for Victory
When did this start? I remember back in 2008 Victory was always considered one of the best entries by /m/en.
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>>21564604
Well Zeta is fucking garbage so no shit you like Victory more.
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>>21566752
The general (i.e. loudest) opinion goes back and forth, same as X.
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>>21564623
i like bikerchad
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>>21566734
only his sister's underwear can purify the contaminated air from Earth
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Why did Katejina resemble Uso's mom? Was it to fuck with him even more?
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>>21564604
go to bed, anno
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>>21567235
Your taste is garbage & zeta is top-tier
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>>21568171
basic bitch taste.
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who is the original retard who started saying "tomino sabotaged victory and wanted it to be bad"? Way too many people repeat this point and refuse to watch it due to it
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>>21571008
Victory is pretty mid it doesn't really matter if people refuse to watch it
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>>21571029
I'll make you eat those words
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>>21564604
Anon, what you have to understand is there are a lot of Gundam "fans" and Anime "fans" in general with a chip of their shoulder against Tomino. He's a pillar of the Japanese animation industry but the way he writes is actual auteur style only for himself. They go in watching his stuff with shit subs from people who can barely parse what Tomino is saying and get upset because they think he's a misogynist or is confusing with no context for how liberal Tomino was even in the 80s and how he's even more liberal now. But he's doesn't play stupid mind games and if asked to give advice will literally say "How can a guy be happy if his wife's pussy is loose." He's very sexually liberated but also liberal which is a fucking non existent breed in the West because to liberal in the West you have to treat Women like Goddesses, meanwhile he treats them like people and is blunt as fuck about his interest in sex.

So you get a bunch of shitty westerners who think they need to take him down a peg and can't understand his writing because they don't understand Japanese and are reading him through a filter of people who barely understand Japanese, when even actual native Japanese speakers admit he fucking writes in a challenging way to comprehend as a native.
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>>21571032
draw your blade faggot
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>>21571038
Interview Tomino and director Tomino sound like two different people. When was the last time a Tomino MC has shown any interest in sex? Certainly not fucking G-Reco.
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>>21571029
>Victory is pretty mid
Fr fr on god sheeesh
Shut up.

>>21571042
Of course, you really think the army of execs at Sunrise and Bandai would let him get away with putting half of the shit he talks about in their prime time toy commercials?
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Katejina got shit on a lot but I think Shakti is a bigger psycho.
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>>21571038
Based motherfucking post. Ann staff would seeth out the anus from reading this.
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>>21576096
It's just funny how upset they get about how Tomino treats women but when you point out the reason Fa is written the way she is in Zeta is because you had two cowriters fighting over her and not because Tomino himself wanted her that way it's stupid. These people have no clue and don't even understand that in his entire breathe of work Tomino was including more female pilots and main characters than anyone else in the 80s or 90s. They look at the Shrike Team and go "Oh how horrible he's killing all these strong women to get a reaction out of the audience" rather than "Oh Tomino is being completely merciless about the state of war with a largely female cast." If the Shrike Team were all guys they'd just be going "not enough female representation." They look at the shit he says in Brain Powered about motherhood and take it as him saying "go back to the kitchen women" rather than "You can't just have a kid and abandon it for your career and not expect it to hurt the kid"

Tomino consistently calls out colonization and evils, and even pointed out how absent and empty of culture America is and how it tries to instead take everyone elses' culture for itself while destroying it. He regrets the fact that he ever stood in the way of his daughter marrying someone foreign if I remember correctly [I may be wrong but I know he regrets something he did with her involving foreign stuff it might have just been her studying abroad].

Tomino is honestly a much better role model than Miyazaki in terms of a lot of left leaning philosophy since Tomino actually cared about the next generation vs Miyazaki sucking them dry for his own benefit but because Miyazaki is most of these plebs first exposure to shit they can't be critical of him even though he literally killed the person who was meant to inherit the studio from him from overwork and abandoned his own son. Meanwhile Tomino got his daughter to help him make eyecatches for G-Reco
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>>21576176
Agreed entirely anon.
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>>21566752
I've only heard of positive opinions on Victory on this board
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>>21576176
>and abandoned his own son
Why are people so hung up on this? Stop projecting your father issues onto him, you shouldn't care about how the man treats his own damn son.
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>>21576581
Because it runs contrary to the themes and messages of his films. The fact that his son got into animation later in life entirely to try and have a relationship with his father sucks. He sucks as a person because even the biggest losers can manage to build a relationship with their kid. Miyazaki only ever cared about himself and his animation and that sucks. If you're going to be that type of artist then don't have kids. Anno got that fucking right, and Tomino for all his pussy jokes is heavily invested in the next generation. I don't have have time to idolize or defend men who only care about themselves and watching a bunch of people do so because they think he's some saint is pathetic.
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>>21571038
>>21576176
One of my favorite little fun facts about Turn A's production is that Tomino got into knock-out-drag-out fights with some of the staff over his insistence on Guinn being gay. As far as he was concerned homosexuality is just a natural thing and something that can help make a character interesting, and he refused to budge on it, driving some people to quit.
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>>21576598
He wanted Loran to be Laura and it's literally only the Sunrise executives being too pussy mode to try it. He then literally made Loran dress in drag constantly as a middle finger.

Now you look at G Witch and he's probably going "Gee, I was right wasn't I you idiots"
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>>21576593
What are you crying about, loser? Miyazaki already left his son in charge of Ghibli in case he dies and he has an entire studio he runs on his own as well.
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>>21576602
No he didn't, this is an old rumor that's been debunked multiple times. In fact going back to the earliest concept art Loran was even more masculine.
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>>21576176
Based. Further destroys ann
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>>21576612
>He wanted Loran to be Laura and it's literally only the Sunrise executives being too pussy mode to try it. He then literally made Loran dress in drag constantly as a middle finger.
Not him. There's some truth to that tho, turn a had a strong pro feminist touch throughout its pre-production:

"Loran Cehack—an Earthling in much of the earlier drafts—is a humble and handsome young man sometimes mistaken for a girl (“Laura”) who addresses himself using the “boku” (僕) first-person pronoun. An engineer-in-training, he ends up having to work in the mines. He’s characterized as a “nice guy” and has sharp reflexes that can be applied to mobile suit combat (it’s noted that he is NOT a Newtype). In nearly every revision—including the final version—Loran is smitten by Kihel Heim to some degree. This is intentional, because Tomino wanted Loran to be infatuated with a blonde woman, and that love is later redirected to Dianna Soreil. His devotion to Dianna remains unparalleled even in drafts where she takes on a more antagonistic role. When Loran’s origin is changed from Earthling to Moonrace, the infatuation instead stems from Dianna herself."

https://tsukinomayu.com/2021/07/31/the-history-and-production-of-turn-a-gundam-part-ii-influences-inspiration/

https://tsukinomayu.com/2022/07/17/the-history-and-production-of-turn-a-gundam-part-iii-prelude/
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>>21576593
I find miyazaki full of himself and overrated.
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>says not to buy the DVD of V Gundam.... in the pamphlet that came with the DVD of V Gundam
Will never be not funny to me
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>>21576593
the first movie of his son also involved the protagonist killing his father at the start.
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>>21576699
>He’s characterized as a “nice guy”
God I miss when "nice guy" meant actually nice kek
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>>21578200
what does nice guy mean in your head now schizo-kun?
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>>21576699
Boku is a masculine pronoun. Not sure why you're trying to prove by posting that he uses a masculine pronoun and is obsessed with a woman
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>>21578222
girls can also use boku anon
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>>21578220
weird incel person being nice to have favors only
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>>21578256
you are either projecting or are a woman
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>>21578273
I blame my women friends for saying it too much kek
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>>21578220
Go outside & you realize nice guy is not a compliment anymore
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>>21578222
You're a faggot. You've definitely proven that schizo.
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>>21578356
ywnbaw
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>>21578432
>>21578222
>misses the point of the post
>obsessed only with the pronouns part
Wouldn't want to be one in a million years retard
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only redditers and trannys dislike V Gundam. it's in the top 3 Gundam series. FACTS
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I want to cum in Marbet and Shakti's delicious dark skinned pussies
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>>21578589
Based
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>>21577669
It's because Tomino was going through a tough period when making Victory and looking back he regrets the show turned out the way it did because of it.

But Victoryfags are quite simply unable to comprehend that.
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>>21579268
A director saying he wishes he could've changed some shit doesn't somehow make people stop liking the parts they like
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>>21579268
>But Victoryfags are quite simply unable to comprehend that.
Retard can't you simply comprehend or understand other people can just disagree with tomino's feelings or opinion on something? Tomino disliking a show doesn't stop me from still liking it faggot.



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