>Capital Army, Ameria, Towasanga, taboo>I just wanna Fooj for SU-Cord's sakeWas G-Reco's ending too radical to be accepted?
>>21562904Yeah the "letting go of Gundam and go out and live life" ending is too radical for your average Gundamfag.
the main cast decides to just fuck off and do their own shit except one of them that proceeds to 9/11 his dad
>>21562904So did he fucked his sister or not?
>>21563014No, the last movie has a new scene with him and Noredo in a tent at night.
>>21563039good fucking taste desu.Though all the G-reco girls are really cute. G-reco in general is beautiful, it's a shame the show is ignored by many in the west...
>>21563119For me, it's Manny, she walked so Rikka Gridman could run.G-Reco is just too overtly Tomino for broad appeal, it's even further on that curve than Turn A because how narratively challenging it is on top of his other quirks. But like Turn A, it'll age much better than any other Gundam from these last two decades.
>>21563138Is it true the movies are even better than the show? Usually it's the reverse.I liked the show of course though I do wish it had a few more episodes.I do find it interesting how Tomino directly made G-reco for a younger audience. And it worked really well at giving it it's own identity. Both adult fans and younger ones can love it without any compromise in it's story.
>>21563150For the most part yes, I dislike how they have more outright just telling the viewer the plot, but the changes are all pretty good for the most part.
>>21563150G-Reco did the impossible and made the movies better than the show. Turns out 5 movies from 25 episodes works better than 3 from 50.
>>21563119>>21563138Both are good and so is Mashner.But Aida is just on unbeatable.
Since Tomino and Sunrise told conflicting answers, do you place G-reco after or before Turn A?
>>21563234I place G-Reco my cock inside her so that she will reproduce and we'll have more G-Reco
>>21563252Based MS fucker.Also the Jahannam looks like a copy of 2016 Doomguy, which is weird as G-reco was released before.
>>21563234Before, if I had to give a hard placement, there's no way around that with the close references to the UC. But on a headcanon level, I'm leaning more and more towards Tomino's interpretation as a Turn A sequel because how clearly it's implicitly written as such. Also a big part of Turn A's appeal for me is the loose sense of temporality, externally with the different time collapsing into one and internally with the clash between the early industrial Earth and futuristic Moonrace, so the idea that the CC would progress into another cyclical mash-up that is G-Reco is fascinating to me and enhances both shows.
>>21563234After. It just feels more right considering the state of technology and the ending where Bellri just says "fuck this fighting and giant robots" and fucks off.The only thing that makes me unsure is the military ruins we can see during final battle on earth.
>>21563234It doesn't make sense to put it before because the show tripled down on the G-Lucifer having the MLB, which is classified as a tech from the lost era since it's held in the Rose of Hermes. In the original TV airing it wasn't properly detailed, in the blu ray and movie they explicitly redrew the Lucifer's MLB to make it identical to modern depictions of the MLB. At a bare minimum that puts G-Reco after Black History and in CC, and the chances of G-Reco taking place both in CC and before the events of Turn A are 0 because the Earth's tech is way too developed. Plus Tomino doubled down on by saying Ameria and Gondawan had dug up weapons from the Black History for their war.
>>21563234I think I've grown to prefer after
I find it funny that the movie made this monster as a throwaway scene
>>21563234It doesn't matter and you're an idiot if you care
>>21563404Tomino cares. By placing it after, you make him happy.
>>21563436I don't know who the hell designed the G-reco characters but fuck they are hot
>>21563448Akira "Akiman" Yasuda, who also worked on Turn A and King Gainer
>>21563463I still find the weird genital marks on the spacesuit goofy.
>>21563463I think you mean Kenichi YoshidaAkiman only did the G-Self, Recten, and Recksnow for G-Reco
>>21563485WHY! WHY IS LIFE SO HARD! WHY MUST I FAIL AT EVERY ATTEMPT AT MASKED RIVALRY!
>>21563508>both Bararara and Manny looking at LuinNice.I wish 4 was already ripped.
>>21563495Aww, they're cute. I still need to watch E7.
>>21563234I would prefer to agree with Tomino, but his timeline doesn't even match what was explained in Turn A itself.
Soon will be a year, what's waiting for the movie to get fan subs?
>>21563683The Blurays have official subs
>>21563689So the movies are all available already?
>>21563234I would like to go with Tomino, but considering he won't really be the one speaking for the fiction going forward, it just seems like being in denial if future references continue to place Turn A last, like in Light of Life Chronicle U.C..
>>21563234Honestly I've always viewed it as an alt timeline compared to Turn A. Both are different what ifs of UC
did anyone got a good rip of the soundtrack from all the movie? it had a few new songs
>>21563119>that gapShe was made to squirt out kids, wasn’t she?
>>21563187Nothing like Boolean Collapse Ordinance
>>21563463And here is his first mecha he ever did in ‘86 for Capcom.
>>21564261If she fucked Belri then Tomino must have a good thing to say about her Bajeena.
>>21564266Seeth more Aida
>>21564277Based on that span alone, has to be quatro even quinta at best
>>21563689Im honestly a bit tempted to just bite the bullet and buy them. I was really holding out for the hope we might get an official western non retarded price release but eh.
>>21564278Aida's getting pounded by Kerbes. Also nice pony tail.
>>21564432I just bought the BD of the series, so if it ever shows up I'll let you know what to expect since the quality should be the same.>Confirmation email from Rightstuf went straight into my spam folderAfter looking at it, I would put it in the spam folder too. A 41 year old unmarried white woman runs this site.
>>21564447Oh, I've actually had the TV series BD for some time. It's nice enough. And yeah, I'm not especially fond of RS's little mascot.
>>21562904Did Real Life Tomino voice cameo Tomino?
For me, it's Mick Jack. Klim is one lucky son of a bitch.
>>21564477She's a tall glass
>>21564212They are out on streaming sites nowhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNSDFF8kt_zqejH2qN8LCFUK66NAMdG7k
I swear it didn't take this long for III to get ripped
>>21564810IV is already on private trackers now
>>21563187Fuck 'em for not giving us a Wuxia HG. I still want one.
>>21563187That's a lotta warning shots.
>>21564924>I'M A PACIFIST!>OH NO!
>>21564810Hgn Tobito stop trying to make cute chocolate characters please
Are these still in the movie?https://youtu.be/P3Yo4ryp6bkThe definition of SOUL
>>21565024I watched the first movie and I didn't see them. I do hope they're in the others but would guess they aren't since .. you know. It's not a tv show.
>>21565024They show them during the end credits of III
G-reco in general don't feels like it was made in the mid 2010s.I say that in a good way. In an era where things were, and are still going darker and darker, it felt like an alien.The world, the animation, the design...I'll miss Tomino a lot the day he dies...
>>21563353oh SU-Cord oh fuck
So...yesterday there is this weibo post...https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4878519350593171That has the BD rip for part 4Time to watch the part 4 of the compilation I guess..?
Oh yeah....and oneleaf is operational right now
>>21563234I don't care and it doesn't matter
>>21565214Neat. Thanks anon.
How long till part 4 is up on nyaa?
I said it before and I'll keep saying it but I love Tomino cut ins. I'm honestly surprised they're not a more widely used or even addressed "trope."
>>21566533Tomino just does a lot of things, directing and writing-wise, that continue to be at odds with the rest of the industry, much less the mecha genre, decades on from his big break out hit. It's almost literally like the "wow cool robot meme" where the only thing people learned was "cool robot war story" and didn't pay attention to literally anything else he did with the writing or scene composition. Except for Anno, that suck up.I continue to love how almost all his shows frequently have otherwise pointless, little scene of the characters just stumbling over things, bumping into each other, and generally having humbling moments where they're off balance or out of sorts.
>>21566533I'm currently working on a mecha game and it does it fact have a few Tomino cut ins for big scenes
>>21566776>I continue to love how almost all his shows frequently have otherwise pointless, little scene of the characters just stumbling over things, bumping into each other, and generally having humbling moments where they're off balance or out of sorts.I think, more than anyone, he's probably one of the most animated anime directors I can really think of. It just seems like characters very rarely just statically exchange info. They'll be moving around almost constantly, talking over each other, or just generally doing things. You don't see the typical TV talking heads where Character A talks then Character B talks. In a Tomino series, Character A will be arguing with Character B while Character C is trying to interject with something completely different with Character D through F laughing in the background.
>>21566776>>21566976I really like that, makes it feel more immersive.
>>21566781Respect, anon.>>21566776>I continue to love how almost all his shows frequently have otherwise pointless, little scene of the characters just stumbling over things, bumping into each other, and generally having humbling moments where they're off balance or out of sorts.Tomino is incredible at, and puts more emphasis than even most realist directors on, making the world in his animation actually tactile. Stuff like gravity and momentum impacting physical objects, debris, dirt and water factoring into action on the screen, all the little details making the world feel lived-in like "arbitrary" cutaways to animals fleeing or trees swaying in the wake of a mobile suit, character acting like pilots constantly fixing their hair or adjusting their uniforms in the cockpit, you get the idea. F91 is an easy example of that from his older work, but he got even more autistic about all of that over the years and now these details are just packed in G-Reco to an insane degree.I think it probably has to do with Tomino's background, as he originally wanted to do film, rather than animation? Same as him being uninterested in cliche polished genre characters and writing more idiosyncratic flawed ones or his style of non-exposition and dialogue, as the other anon said >>21566976, he's just looking at the animation more in terms of "okay, if I was shooting this in live action, with real actors, going for authenticity, how would it look like?" But he actually thinks things through and takes advantage of the unique perks of animation at the same time, so you don't get the unimaginative stale boards and compositions you get from all the other "cinematic" directors.
>>21567118>I think it probably has to do with Tomino's background, as he originally wanted to do film, rather than animation? despite this, it feels like he cares more about the medium than other directors who just repeat their 'doom and gloom' speech regarding anime.
>>21566776>I continue to love how almost all his shows frequently have otherwise pointless, little scene of the characters just stumbling over things, bumping into each other, and generally having humbling moments where they're off balance or out of sorts.I like that one part where Happa closes a panel, but then it doesn't stay shut, and then he slams it closed.
>>21563119Why is she wearing a giant egg for a hat?
>>21567342She's advertising to Bellri; he's not picking up on the hints though.
IV SUBS ARE OUT
>>21568187Finally. You know I was actually THIS close to just biting the bullet and importing a set myself. I might still, but it can a bit more leisurely now.
WAIT SHIT IT'S TRUE
I will never not love this frame
>>21568239>The Megafauna Community frowns upon your shenanigans
DAMN THE TORPEDOS!
>>21563256Great minds think alike
>>21568992That's a big Gundam
cute nee san
>>21568992G-Self with pupils is adorable
The scenes where they just outright explain the plot are funny
>>21569368Is this something new to the movies? Maybe it's my memory being dusty, but I don't remember the show ever dumping exposition. At least not in the way to explicitly orient the audience, it always was a natural extension of the dialogue.
>>21569402There are a couple of weird moments in the first two episodes at the very least. Bellri taking pains to explain to the audience how the big arms on his recten work, the class lesson on Minovksy particles and Aida explaining how Earth and space are isolated with a weird cut away in the midst of the explanation come to mind.
>They removed itCome on Tomino
>>21569428is it just a different translation or is the line actually changed?
>>21569428>As a human womanI haven't watched G-Reco yet, did she mean to say that she is an earthling?
>>21569428>>21569439The line is the same, it's just a different translation.
>>21569442It makes sense in context with how people have mutated in space into a sort 'inhuman' state where they wouldn't be able to exercise as she is doing here.
Having recently found out that the Overdevil was in the G-Reco ED, I was wondering if there were any other explicit OKG references like this?I haven't noticed anything else apart from the Zansgatt looking kind of similar to the Golem in OKG
I want eat kuntala pussy
So how was Movie 4?
>>21569553Really good. The new animation was jaw dropping. I mean it's not like the show looked close to bad, either but goddamn the Mack Knife fight.
>>21569402That one is new to the movies, there are several scenes added to the movies that are just outright "character explains the plot".
>>21569568okay but what about the biggest issue, the pacing?
>>21569583The movies cannot fix your attention deficit disorder.
>>21569588Cool. So how was the pacing? I remember everything to do with Kia Mbeki being really jumpy, making it awkward to watch. That any better?
>>21569588Imagine gatekeeping for what many would consider bad for simply being incoherent.If you have to lie to yourself then have fun with that. Covet thy bleach like the fine wine you believe it to be.
>>21562918It’s almost like people don’t watch anime to be preached at by people making millions in merch every year. Same reason the Eva rebuild ending was hilariously unconvincing.
>>21563187>just deletes everything without so much as transferring heatPretty terrifying weapon desu
>>21563234Before. Nothing else makes sense.
[Eclatax] Gundam G no Reconguista Movie 4 - Love That Cries Out in Battle [BDRip 1080p 10-bit Flac x265]
>>21569670We are aware
>>21569604>For what many would consider badMany ANN reviewers who barely pay attention and disliked getting talked down to by actual knowledge anime fans Wait shit am I arguing with Duel?
>>21569770Yeah next he's gonna pretend a MAL rating means anyways.
>>21569626Imagine if G-Lucifer used Moonlight Butterfly properly in series as well
>>21569796Imagine if Light of Life UC didn’t close the book on that
What did he mean by this?
>>21569610The Rebuilds were unconvincing because Anno had nothing to say and was just pushing things to the finish line so he could go back to making things he actually cares about. Rebuilds from their beginning were done for money first and the entirety of Eva 3.0 was a cry for help.Tomino on the other hand actually had a vision for G-Reco and pursued it with determination. You can't blame him for making a show about rejecting existing structures and narratives and encouraging people to be creative and think outside of the existing paradigm and then Bandai continuing to milk UC dry. Old man could be shitting over everything like most of his peers are (as anon pointed out here >>21567173) but he actually cares about the medium and G-Reco is a perfect demonstration.
>>21570034>>21570044Aida likes older men like Cahill and Kerbes fits the bill
>>21569534Both OKG and G-Reco use Photons are their energy sources and the G-Self Perfect Pack has that same ring effect with King Gainer.There could be more that I missed but there are also some vague references to other Tomino shows.
>>21569534Also the Hecate's head is similar to the Under Golem's head
>[Announcement] "G no Reconguista Mechanic & World" will be released on March 23: !!!!! Focusing on the mechanics and worldview of G Reco: !!!! Also, look out for an interview with Yoshiyuki Tomino, the general director, and the rest of the main staff! We really wanted to release it after the TV series, but we finally got our revenge with the movie version.
Was G-reco originally Ring of Gundam or Ring was it's own thing?
>>21570240No, Ring of Gundam is an short based on Tomino's concept of a live action movie
>>21570240Ring of Gundam was Turn A's working title before it became Turn A Gundam. https://twitter.com/feezy_feez/status/1315782372504211456Tomino recycled some of that for a CGI 30th anniversary short. However, some of its concepts, ideas, and even staff made its way to G-Reco (which were also probably carried over from Turn A Space). https://gshelf.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/g-reco-production-timeline/https://akiba-souken.com/article/43211/?page=5You can read here the original story for Ring and its similarities to the Venus Globe arc in G-Reco.https://www.zeonic-republic.net/?p=698
>>21570200Now this is interesting. Is this a book or what?
>>21570200>but we finally got our revenge with the movie version.can't tell if it's mistranslated or not.
>>21570279this geezer is such a troll. love him.
>>21570279>draws a big circle.>writes "A wife's loose pussy would never satisfy her husband's inner masturbatory rhythm."Do you think Tomino went too far on national television? Dude was just trying to ask a simple question.
>>21570260Tomino seems to have changed his philosophy on moving to a different solar system
>>21570091I always thought Kerbes was a pretty cool dude.
>>21570543The best. He’s unconditionally supportive of Bellri’s emotional state. Bell needs him around to center
>>21570279There's something about seeing Tomino working that always facinate me.He might be a bit wacky but you can't say he doesn't put his all in what he does
>>21570469He came to realize that we'll be forever bound to Earth's gravity and space colonization won't solve anything. It's funny to hear him shit on Elon Musk and all the other snake oil salesmen.
>>21570818Tomino is right
>>21570818>>21570821shitting on Musk is always based but I can't help but disagree with him here. Intentionally reducing the population to more manageable levels and maintaining it there long-term is just as unrealistic as colonizing another planet, if not more. The only way forward is to move past Earth. This is not a matter of decades of work, but centuries. Nonetheless it's as inevitable as it's necessary. Obviously it doesn't automatically fix everything (or anything, by itself) but it's an important step no matter what.
>>21570279what the fuck do elephants have to do with anything? Tomino, what are you talking about?
>>21570821This is straight up Thanos shit.
>>21570891>centuriesWhich we don't have. Tomino doesn't see colonization on the necessary scale as realistic, especially in the time we have left until things will turn to shit. It's telling that the setting of G-Reco is basically the principle of degrowth realized to the absolute conclusion with the energy crisis solved (the Capital Tower monopoly being a different can of worms) - but only after the civilization collapsed. Same with Turn A with humanity rebuilding step by step back to early industrial society. The happy endings and positive societal transformations in his Gundam happen only after the worst has already happened. Tomino knows it's already over and the insane malthusian proposal only shows how severe and impossible the solutions are. G-Reco and Turn A also adress how impossible is to try to manage humanity and keep it in some sort of stasis, but the unique opportunity in those settings is that they're not past their breaking point yet, like the UC or our world are.
>>21570821Nuking india, china, all of africa, serbia, and the UK are sacrifices I'm willing to make. Canada and Brazil too
>>21570945Are you willing to nuke yourself, your family, your friends and your country? Unless the answer is yes, no-one advocating that kind of solution should be even entertained.
>>21570950Cool, we'll start with you so. Test subjects, make sure the plan works.
>>21570947Char was right.
>>21568342It's kinda weird how everyone is so shocked about the Photon Torpedoes only for like a second. After Bellri ejects the pack, they're all "Bellri, is something wrong?" or "Bellri, why did you stop fighting?" Not to mention that afterwards, Klim is all like "good work out there Bellri!" despite the torpedoes killing a fuckton of Amerians too.
>>21571131Yeah but Klim is kind of an asshat
>>21571155That's Captain Asshat to you
Playing around with the Rose of Hermes blueprints must be fun
>>21571802It's all fun and games till someone gets completely evaporated
>>21571805>moonlight butterfly? that sounds neat>AIIEEE
>>21570821So he advocated the colony drops afterall
>>21570279What did he mean by this
>>21571815Being there does not mean it’s after Turn A and you’re a smoothbrain troglodyte if you think otherwise.
>>21572707What are you on about? The post you replied to did not even talk about timeline shite.
>>21572728G-Lucifer having some watered down nanite shit is often cited as a SMOKING GUN OMG for Reco coming after Turn A, despite the piles of things in the show pointing otherwise.
>>21572738Before or after does not really matter, mate. You are being flustered for no reason.
>>21572767That ain’t me, I’m just explaining what the issue is
>>21572738Tomino said it's after Turn A. Do you not listen to Tomino?
>>21572738Cope and seethe more
>>21572783even tomino doesn't listen to tomino
>>21572783Tomino didn’t make the show. That’s where the problem lies
>>21572821He literally wrote the entire story and setting, all of the scripts, and most of the storyboards. He made the show
>>21572839Then why was it made to be after UC but before Turn A?
>>21572871It wasn't. If you weren't a fake fan you'd know Turn A already shits all over calendar systems and refers to the entire black history as UC. G-Reco isn't any different, they're just throwing CC in there as well
>>21572881Turn A absolutely does not. Riddle me this diddler, if it’s after Turn A then why is only UC tech, MS or concepts ever named? This ain’t a HURR DURR THEY CALL EVERYTHING UC. We got Minovsky particles, Guncannons Rick Dias and Jamesguns, Newtypes, even part of Jaburo itself. Where’s the FC? Where’s the AC? Where’s the AW?
This is all really funny to be because it feels just like watching the “Prologue was 13 years ago” debate.
>>21572903>Turn A absolutely does notYes it does retard. During the black history reveal they strictly refer to the footage they're shown as Universal Century both during and after viewing the footage. >if it’s after Turn A then why is only UC tech, MS or concepts ever named?Then why does Turn A do the same thing? They all use megaparticle weapons, use I-fields, and even the Turn A's entire body is moved via an I-field beam drive, technologies that ONLY apply to minovsky particle. Meanwhile G-Reco introduces totally new energy systems like photon energy, which co-exists with minovsky particles. >Guncannons Rick Dias and Jamesguns, NewtypesYou mean just like how Turn A references Zakus, psycommu systems, I-fields, megaparticles, and other UC only concepts? Meanwhile all of the "new" MS in G-Reco are built from the Rose of Hermes, technology from the previous eras>even part of Jaburo itselfWrong retard. Jaburo is in the heart of the Amazon basin. The final battle takes place in the Guiana Highlands, HUNDREDS of miles north of the Amazon basin area, let alone Jaburo.
>>21572969Jaburo actually was that big. I remember an anon a while ago charting out and discovering that they overlap. I’m not on either camp but I wanna know how those Zgok survived a Moonlight Butterfly, but we’re still exposed enough to rust.
Hey sorry to interrupt, how does Light of Life UC fit into this whole debate?
>>21572999It's just some promo to sell gundumb
>>21572980No, it's not. Jaburo is small enough that a single nuke in Zeta destroyed the majority of it and made it defunct as far as the shows are concerned. And we see the nuke on screen, it's not even comparable to a colony drop let alone capable of wiping out half of Brazil which is what it would take to reach the Guiana Highlands. The black circle is the Guiana Highlands, the end of the dotted line is Jaburo. The nuke did not have a blast radius of 1/4 of south america
>>21573010But it’s written by Tostitos and has Amuro and Lalah look into every show before Black History Turn A does it’s thing. And Reco is in there.
>>21572969did you manage to somehow forget the multiple references to FC, AC and AW throughout Turn A outside of the dark history reveal sequence?
>>21573016Don't really care about where it's placed tbqh
>>21573016According to Light of Life Moon Gundam, Hathaway's Flash, and a Unicorn 2 teaser are stories that have yet to take place after the rest of UC.
>>21573027Did you forget that the characters still refer to the footage as UC? The people of CC only have the concept of three calendars. AD, UC, and CC. Everything after AD and before CC is rolled into UC as far as they're concerned.
>>21573027>FC, AC and AWName them, because I'm certain you're going to say that MLB is made from DG Cells after which I'll ask you to actually cite the book the claim is from.
>>21573054>Gozzo's serial number and cockpit design match up with After War suits, particularly UNE/NUNE>Mahiroo uses a toned down Mobile Trace System from Future Century>Wadom's serial number matches with FC's Neo Japan machineshttps://pastebin.com/WMNqzDu1educate yourselves you phillistinesalso as a double whammy Master Grade Turn X's manual explicitly lists all major .AUs that existed at the time of it's release (so every before G-Reco) as part of Black History. So not only FC, AC and AW but also CE, AD and AG.
>>21573088>https://pastebin.com/WMNqzDu1-Real ammunition cannot damage its armour-Beam weapons are deflected by its I-field-Can teleport-Can warp its attacks (can warp a beam shot directly INTO a cockpit)-Beam rifle at maximum power is stronger than a colony laser-Regeneration-The Moonlight Butterfly that destroyed Earth's civilization was at 20% power-System Turn A's chest's multipurpose silo can summon weapons (it can only "summon" stuff from Earth, and apparently it can only be done with special devices made specifically for the Turn A.)-The Moonlight Butterfly at 100% output can cover everything from Earth to Jupiter-The teleportation system makes it possible for, as long as there are nanomachines available at all, regenerate everything entirely, including the pilot (Teleportation system apparently "saves" the status of the machine and everything in it and sends it somewhere. The nanomachines can use that data to regenerate everything (it just takes ages, depending on how much needs to be regenerated; Complete regeneration of everything is said to take thousands of years)-The Turn Series uses DG cell technology (not stated if they actually use DG cells, probably just using some know-how from them in the nanomachines).-They're actually meant for newtypes to pilot, as they were created by the newtypes (who left the Earth sphere) for interstellar war.-The Turn A's hands are so sensitive they can be used to pick up a regular human-sized bucket of water.-The Keilas Guilie or however you spell it (the attack satellite and beam cannon from Victory Gundam) can't even scratch the Turn A, and the Turn X Top can take control of it remotely (Turn A probably can too).-Turn A's power source is two "縮退炉" ("degeneracy engines").-The I-field beam drive system creates a film of particles over the surface of the machine and moves the parts (hence the lack of any need for motors and shit inside).Go ahead and cite these you stupid nigger
>>21573094how's that relevant to the topic at hand you crackhead?
>>21573088>>Gozzo's serial number and cockpit design match up with After War suits, particularly UNE/NUNEExcept NRS isn't a AW serial code retard. Mass produced units use NR and experimental units use NRX. >>Mahiroo uses a toned down Mobile Trace System from Future Century>>Wadom's serial number matches with FC's Neo Japan machinesExcept Neo Japan doesn't prefix 0s. Both of your examples are just bullshit attempts to match random letters and numbers when they don't actually fit. The mahiroo is the only example that fits except it straight up doesn't have a mobile trace cockpit, so it's just a reused name. So you have a single example of a reference to G Gundam, that's shaky at best, meanwhile you're going to reject the fact that the G-Lucifer has the Moonlight Butterfly>also as a double whammy Master Grade Turn X's manual explicitly lists all major .AUsWrong retard, the manual literally says "hey it's up to interpretation it's only a theory some people have" Literally>"Black History" in Turn A Gundam is the records of wars that were sealed away, but also has another meaning- That of the concept that all Gundam series shows, starting with Mobile Suit Gundam in 1979, exist in a single timeline. In other words,1979's Mobile Suit Gundam's UC marks the beginning of humanity's space age, and 1999's Turn A Gundam's CC is its final stage. The timelines broadcast up to that point, G's FC, Wing's AC, and X's AW, as well as 2002's Seed's CE, 2007's 00's AD, and 2011's Age's AG, and all other Gundam series to come are a part of black history as well (Gundam Build Fighters seems to be an exception). The gimmicks that made this possible are nanotechnology and black history. In real life, history is filled with numerous different perceptions and interpretations, and there are countless cases of fabrications gaining momentum and being treated as fact. In the end, it may be that people only believe what they want to believe.that entire section is meta discussion
>>21573150Cope. You can’t even form a good argument for why it’s after other than A BLOO BLOO MOONBUTT LUCIFER BLOO
>>21573142Because you're full of shit. Half of those claims are bullshit made up by drooling retards like you on this site spewing lies>-Real ammunition cannot damage its armourbullshit>-Can warp its attacks (can warp a beam shot directly INTO a cockpit)Bullshit>-Beam rifle at maximum power is stronger than a colony laserbullshit>-The Moonlight Butterfly that destroyed Earth's civilization was at 20% powerbullshit>-The Moonlight Butterfly at 100% output can cover everything from Earth to Jupiterbullshit>-The Turn Series uses DG cell technology (not stated if they actually use DG cells, probably just using some know-how from them in the nanomachines).bullshit>-The Keilas Guilie or however you spell it (the attack satellite and beam cannon from Victory Gundam) can't even scratch the Turn A, and the Turn X Top can take control of it remotely (Turn A probably can too).bullshit
>>21573159And the fact that the showrunners reanimated it for the bluray just to double down. And the fact Tomino said it takes place after Turn A Gundam and the original concept and written story sunrise adapted was a post Gundam story set after the name Gundam was totally lost to time. And the fact that in his book "Don't Underestimate Making Anime" he revealed setting notes for G-Reco that stated Gondawan and Ameria were digging up MS from Black History to fuel their war. Also the fact that solar energy and solar energy facilities with unstable fuel is a concept from the Turn A setting notes that went unmentioned (but were mentioned in the Turn X MG manual, as a fuel source made possible thanks to the Turn A's MLB)
>>21573195BLOO BLOO BLOO
>>21572903>if it’s after Turn A then why is only UC tech, MS or concepts ever named?Cause Tomino doesn't know or care about other Gundam shows except those he worked on. All the references in Turn A were handled by other members.
>>21573271So the show was made a certain way that conflicts with his vision?
>>21573278Not necessarily. Tomino's vision could've been something that unifies the previous works, despite not knowing the actual details of the works. Or maybe he had wanted to just do his own works but Sunrise asked him to reference all the other Gundam too, and Tomino compromised.The animator in charge of the Fuunsaiki/Nether Gundam reference even said that Tomino's directions just said "Black History MS data" without any specifics so he chose it himself, and that Tomino didn't seem to care when he approved it.
>>21573313So the show is made one way, despite his intentions. So we can very well say Reco was MADE to slot after Savior and the rest of UC but before Turn a and everyone can be happy?
>>21573348>So the show is made one way, despite his intentions.I don't see where you got that from what I said. Because if it wasn't a part of his intentions, he wouldn't have approved it. It also being an anecdote of a single incident that occurred specifically during Turn A, and yet you're also trying to apply it to G-Reco's production.
The hell happened here?
>>21573746There's nothing more hilarious than watching lore fags argue
Ignore the schizo crying about the timelineHe got so mad he tried to make a thread on /a/ for attention about it
>>21573094…so, the Turn A is basically very low grade Culture SC equipment over sized for a giant robot? Meh.
>>21573016Fukui wrote it, not Tomino
>>21573094Reminder that all of this shit was written by Fukui and not Tomino.
>>21569534>big change was the moonlight butterflyNANI
>>21574191The only thing in Fukui's novel is the Turn A doing long distance teleportation from the moon to the earth, possibly powered by newtype magic.
Is Perfect Pack G-Self more powerful than the Turn A?
EXCUSE ME! HE SAID NO PICKLES!
Is Mask the best Char clone?
>>21573036>Unicorn 2 teaserhuh?
No homo but Nick is cute
>>21578191It doesn't exist. Fukui said Unicorn 2 is an overseas live action korean drama aka there is no unicorn 2.
>>21578140Because he gets away with two-timing?
>>21578624Unicorn 2 doesn't exist. The only time it was ever said to exist was when Fukui "leaked" it at a panel and said it was an overseas live action k-drama then told everyone to forget he said that.
>>21579242>overseas live action k-drama.......what?
>>21575197It also does block the Keilas Guile, but the unit is destroyed bar the core fighter in doing so. So it can block something at least roughly comparable to a colony laser, but probably only when using psycommu/psycoframe to power the effort and it's hardly invulnerable when doing so. Beyond that, the G-Gen games do suggest the Turn A can warp weapons around, which may be based on images and text of the DOC base from a Turn A data book but there's a lot of that list that just seems made up.>>21579242While it's entirely possible that Unicorn 2 won't end up being produced, Banrise have at least acknowledged it before since it was part of the UCNext0100 announcement plans and Fukui has also spoken about how the rough direction he wants is for Banagher and Mineva to tackle the existence of psycoframe if I recall. Which NT is basically all set up for, since it reveals that Darcia Bakharov was the power behind Full Frontal and the Sleeves, while also having people talk about how psycoframe is too much for humanity to handle as they are.
>>21572738G Lucifier is explicitly stated to use moonlight butterfly regardless of if G Reco is before or after Turn A, the dude seethed for no reason.
>>21572903I don't care what anyone says this thing is based on GN Particles
>>21580599Or it's using psycoframe.
>>21580611It's not, its a Photon battery generator, but it functions exactly like how the GN Flag's beamsaber set up was
>>21580599>>21580611>>21580620It's much more closer to the Photon-Mat from King Gainer, IMO. The Photon ring in OKG does even act like the Photon Torpedo at times.
>>21580629Gainer looks so fucking good, especially for an early 00's anime.
The G-System is actually just Rose of Hermes. MS Saga was supposed to be Turn A 2
>>21570200I wonder if they'll acknowledge the stuff Tomino said here
>>21580555UCnext100 is probably a nothing burger. No way they explores post Victory as it would force them to enter the G-saviour era, unless they retcon G-saviour. (which isn't impossible)
>>21580991It's absolutely not a nothing burger, because it's already produced both NT and the first Hathaway film; which were the first projects announced as part of it. It might fizzle out, but even if it does, it's already produced something. They won't have to tackle post-Victory for a long time as is though, because they're just doing post-CCA and pre-F91 stuff for the foreseeable future. It's also worth pointing out that Sunrise have a pretty simple financial incentive to do UC2 because despite the fact it's not well liked here, UC is the most successful Gundam has been for literal decades financially. And I'm including CE stuff in that, because it made more off fewer disks than either SEED or Destiny and has produced at least as much gunpla. Sunrise would be pretty silly not to at least try that well once more.
>>21580991G-saviour just will get retconned anon. You have to accept it. They did it to Gaia Gear, they WILL do it again.G-saviour is too controversial and unpopular for them to use it again. And UC is too vast for them not to continue.
>>21581070Gaia Gear was just a tomino novel, never part of the UC timeline
>>21581070Inb4 G-saviour is retconned by the new live action movie.laugh very hard if it fails AGAIN
>>21581070G-Savior would have to be remembered to be controversial. It's just kind of bland though really, so even a lot of folks who've actually seen it forget everything about it. If Sunrise are going to retcon it , it'll be because they forgot it and/or no-one cared enough, not because it was controversial.
>>21581084They did do a passive aggresive thing by calling the Jordan Movie the "first PROPER live action adaptation" on the official channel.
>>21581091for non moonrune readers
The JVR movie is never getting made, especially now that Netflix is bleeding money. They have that Snyder not-Star Wars thing filling the niche.
>>21581112Netflix only is distributing it. it's not made by them it's by Legendary. it's just like Hathaway. Saying it can't happen due to Netflix would be like saying Hathaway 2 can't happen due to NetflixIt was confirmed to be in the next 5 years last year.
>>21581070You could've had a post until you went full retard on Gaia Gear, especially with Bandai tying F90 to the Zorin Soul in an official work.Gaia Gear was never a Gundam work until literally 2022.
>>21581539fuck, I didn't catched up F90. Well thanks for the heads up anon i'm going to check it out.
>rewatching the show>totally missed the beat of Bellri's mom's office being moved which is why she has that laughing fitHow the fuck am I still missing things
>>21583147For me it's the "seeing", "lying" and "not understanding" reference in every episode. There's at least a character, even really minor ones, that talks about those in all episodes.
>>21581091>>21581094oh this is going to be shit, isn't it.
Naohiro Ogata, the Gundam producer, said this earlier this year when talking about Gundam. Any idea of what this could be?Short? Movie? I doubt a new show Tomino must be too tired
Jordan won't write the movie, this guy will.Anyone knows if he is good?
>>21583522no, it will be average, but /m/ will hate it regardless
>>21584042It'll be terrible if it's him
>>21584148it's confirmed him already
>>21584159Well then it'll be terrible.
>>21584042>Vaughan also cites Joss Whedon as the reason he wanted to become a writersays it all really.>>21584097No. Some things are objectively bad.
>>21584489>Some things are objectively bad.Some are. But to come to that conclusion, you need to at least watch the movie first. Dont pretend that people wont shit on it just for contrarian sake
>>21584701The only thing worse than Joss Whedon is a Joss Whedon cock sucker. It's going to be garbage
>>21584701>you need to at least watch the movie first.No you don't and this is the exact kind of permissive attitude that allows so much slop to enjoy even a modicum of financial success instead of getting quickly stomped out where it stands. You do not OWE anything a chance. Shows and movies need to compete for your time. You do not owe a multi million dollar disaster a fair shake. It's time we took a stronger sense of personal liability. We can blame the studios, the producers, the marketers and all the people who create this cinematic garbage but the true blame belongs to you, the viewer. It's very simple. If you stop going to bad movies. They'll stop making bad movies. If the movie is based on a tv show, just don't go. After roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's an American adaptation of a Japanese franchise, watch the classic! IF THE MOVIE STINKS JUST DON'T GO!
>>21584893>going to moviesare you stupid?
>>21584004Probably these 3 films that aren't G-Reco?https://twitter.com/Char_Tweet/status/1327910770340978689https://twitter.com/Char_Tweet/status/1322219318088785923I speculate that one of these might be Himiko Yamato but the other 2 I have no idea
>>21585137I hope Tomino's last work will be Gaia Gear
I want to watch tv series, is the one by horriblesubs the best version on nyaa?
>>21587382it's not seeded though.
when will Tomino reference Brain Powerd in his new work (if there's any)
>>21587399I am brainlet, what does that mean?
>>21587415Turn A and Wings of Rean are the closest ones that I can think of with the crotch cockpits
Wait, the pope is Noredo's relative?
>>21588285Pope's full name is Gel Trimedestus Nug, same last name as Noredo. Given he greets her directly several times in the show means they probably have some familial relation, but the show itself and no side material ever explicitly states what it is.Some googling around and apparently, Producer Ogata confirmed that the pope is Noredo's grandfather. This was during a G-Reco Q&A event, but the commenter admitted that it wasn't one of the official questions at the panel, and that he asked Ogata the question directly after the event.
>>21588315Although he's just a political figurehead it just goes to show that kuntala can indeed live in the upper nuts, at the highest position even.
>>21588328Well, we don't technically know whether he's a Kuntala. Noredo could've gotten that blood from the other side of her family. But even that would still imply that there's nothing barring a Kuntala from marrying into such an influential family.
>>21567076Why do Tominoniggers constantly lie like this? Real life conversations are nothing like Tominoshit and even people here have enough experience to know that
What’s the likelihood of G-Reco Movie 5 having a torrent uploaded this weekend? I wanna do a movie marathon of the two Turn A films + the 5 G-Reco but that’s 7 movies so I’d want to start on Saturday at the latest.
>>21562904How many movies are out and subbed right now? And if they aren't all out yet, how long is the wait for all 5 movies to be out and subbed?
>>215892144/5, 5th movie subs should be in the next month
>>21589214They're all out on bluray in Japan with English subs included. Movie 5 is the only one that hasn't been ripped yet.
>>21589256>>21589214>Gundam Reconguista in G IV: Love That Cries Out in Battle and Gundam Reconguista in G V: Beyond the Peril of Death will release in Japan on Blu-ray and DVD February 24, 2023 and March 24, 2023, respectivelyMovie 5 BD/DVD didn't come out until today
>>21563234I'll play. If we go by that G-Reco is before Turn A, does that mean that the Turn units aren't the first ones to have the Moonlight Butterfly? And if we go by what was said about the G-Lucifer's development which is just based on older designs from the Rose of Hermes blueprints, does that mean that there are other units in future UC that also uses the Moonlight Butterfly?Also, since I want to fit Dunbine in there, is it possible that the Moonlight Butterfly is Byston Well tech? Wings of Rean did have something similar to the MLB.
I can't believe the space pope wasn't evil. In fact he seems downright cordial.
>>21589697> If we go by that G-Reco is before Turn A, does that mean that the Turn units aren't the first ones to have the Moonlight Butterfly?If you assume that G-Reco takes place before Turn A then it means that yes, because the G-Lucifer has the Moonlight Butterfly system. It's possible the G-Lucifer's system is less complex than that of the Turns, since theirs was capable of repair as well as destruction and the range may have been smaller. Or maybe it was capable of more than the Moonlight Butterfly in the Turns for all we know, if you assume that G-Reco predates Turn A.> does that mean that there are other units in future UC that also uses the Moonlight Butterfly?Sure, Gundam in general almost always has prototypes; even for the prototypes. The units built from the Rose of Hermes were generally faithful builds of the exact schematics though, so presumably the UC unit was identical to the G-Lucifer. There may have been other units with it, and the G-Lucifer we see may not have been fully recreated, since the builders didn't actually fully understand the tech.If you go with the whole idea of the Turns constantly awakening and destroying civilization though, it's even possible that the Turn A predates the G-Lucifer but that the G-Lucifer is based on the Turn A because if UC isn't the first calendar then the Turn A may have wiped out one or more civilizations before someone discovered it or recreated the technology to adapt in the G-Lucifer.
>>21589721SU-Cordism in general was handled with far more nuance than one would expect. In every other story, a religious doctrine intended to curtail human progress would be the epitome of evil, but Tomino ends up showing it in relatively positive light, with valid reasoning, even if he understands how unsustainable it would be in the long run and the pitfalls of concentration of power it brings. The pope, the Hermes Foundation people, they're just doing their jobs preventing another catastrophe, trying to keep things in balance as opportunists and warmongers inevitably rock the boat.
>>21589598Yeah but now it's out where is it Japan. I need it now.
>>21570279What exactly did he write on there?
>>21591540A circlehttps://youtu.be/HS8Pyuij9M8He speaks more about it here near the end of the video
>>21591545Thanks for sharing, anon.
Will we ever get an official Western release for the movies?
>>21592587I know, aside from the imports, I meant.
Movie 5 where
Movie 5 when
>>21590145The problem with the before theory is that the Turn X is stated repeatedly to have come from outside the solar system. Even the official website mentions it. The G-Lucifer can't predate the Turn X, it's the original and everything after it is a copy including the Turn A, which was built by the people who discovered the Turn X. That means all 3 were from the same civilization that the Turn A wiped out before going to sleep. That means both Turn A and G-Reco are set after black history. >Turns constantly awakening and destroying civilization thoughThe Turns can't be doing that since the Turn X was buried in a moon cycle and the moon was spared from the MLB. The Turn A's equipment disintegrating od old age at the start of the show also suggests it never woke up after wiping out civilization the first time. Not to mention Venus would almost certainly intervene in a major conflict, which begs the question of why they would allow the Turn A to run rampant around earth when they're stewarding both the moon and earth. According to Yasuda the photon torpedos are near perpetual energy machines because the G-self can reabsorb the energy from the annihilation. Hard to believe even the MLB would be able to stop an army of G-Selfs or G-Lucifers equipped with perfect packs blasting it in perpetuity.
>>21593348>That means both Turn A and G-Reco are set after black history.and how do you reconcile that with Reco beating you over the head with being after UC and only UC? There is not a single other shred of any other AU. Thats the weird part to me
>>21593392>and how do you reconcile that with Reco beating you over the head with being after UC and only UCSee >>21569534>>21570099The photon tech that all the MS rely on is also obviously not from UC. They've been shown to not interact directly with beam based weaponry or penetrate it. It could be related to King Gainer or possibly even 00. The base G-Self also uses an unusual kind of fluid propulsion that looks like water or steam. The only other suits in Gundam that used water propulsion was the Tieren Space types. Of course it could be something else, but it doesn't resemble rocket or energy based propulsion.
>>21593445Not him but ruh thats the largest stretch ever
>>21593348The G-Lucifer's moonlight butterfly clearly isn't the same as the Turn X's, it doesn't wipe out all technology on the planet and it looks different. Isn't it possible the people who found the Turn X just named its nanomachine ability after some unrelated past technology that looks visually similar?There's a lot more evidence pointing to Regild Century directly following UC, and this moonlight butterfly thing is the only "evidence" of it coming after Turn A.
>>21593480That's very clearly the overdevil being referenced in a religious mural, more specifically it's a close up of one of the first SU-Cord murals we get a glimpse of in episode 1. >>21593531>it doesn't wipe out all technology on the planet and it looks differentNeither does the one in Turn A. It's used multiple times throughout the last part of the show and it's hard to argue it's even a WMD. The one we see in the black history isn't very big either, it's spread by the Turn A flying around. So we can only surmise that the Turn A was completely unopposed as it manually destroyed the planet like a plane carpeting bombing everything it could spot. It's like saying that nukes can destroy the planet. Yes, they could if we had enough bombs and time, but one won't. That's also the case of the moonlight butterfly. It's more efficient than bombing everything but it's not like Angel Halo, which actually could affect the entire planet in one go and was said to affect entire cities in small tests of its power. >Isn't it possible the people who found the Turn X just named its nanomachine ability after some unrelated past technology that looks visually similar?There's no reason to believe that, especially since it's Tomino and staff that said it's the Moonlight Butterfly. This is information only the viewers are aware of.
>>21593531The Moonlight Butterfly in question. You can more or less see its wingspan. It's certainly not capable of covering the entire Earth. The Turn A also approaches that city without the Moonlight Butterfly activated, providing further evidence that it actually did have to destroy everything manually and consciously. As far as I know it's never stated that the Turn A destroyed Earth's civilization instantly, or even in a day. Based on how it's portrayed in the show it most likely took quite some time. I would compare it to Veda predicting that the QanT could have wiped out the ELS alone given a week, or Veda simulating that the QanT Full Saber actually could have wiped out the ELS without any help based on data from the final battle.
>>21593631It feels like you're deliberately confusing things here. You see the MB in Turn A block incoming fire, disable units and even create cocoon like material. G Lucifer's just seems like a visual effect while it overclocks it's main cannons on it's funnels.
>>21593664That scene actually seems to imply that the MB does a lot of damage by conjuring up giant magnetic storms, which is an effect i rarely here people talk about.
>>21593666>You see the MB in Turn A block incoming fire, disable units and even create cocoon like materialThis only happens when they're in a melee and both Turn units are going berserk, more or less. The G-Lucifer only activates the butterfly once when it's attacking with its beam cannons at a distance, on a ship. You're looking at completely different situations. And again, we know it's the moonlight butterfly from word of God, not from the characters. It's meta information given directly to the audience the same way things like "Turn X stands for the unit that turned at the tenth star (planet)" are. A lot of information about weapons are given this way, including the photon torpedos. It's never explained what they are in the show and it's given to the audience directly by the staff.>>21593669Whether that was relevant in the destruction of Earth's civilization is a big maybe. The moonlight butterfly disassembles objects that it touches so the storm is kind of redundant when there's direct contact. We are shown that the moonlight butterfly does generate hurricane like winds/storms when Merrybell uses it but they don't seem to turn things to dust so it's likely not the storms that destroyed earth's civilization. Plus we see near or residual contact doesn't really do much if any damage. Korin's Kapool was able to run up on both Turns are they were going berserk (indicated by their cockpits flashing the Turn symbols as they spam the moonlight butterfly). It's only direct contact that damaged his kapool.
>>21593710>we know it's the moonlight butterfly from word of God, not from the charactersExactly, they never even call it moonlight butterfly in the show, which is why it's such a flimsy piece of evidence to supposedly "prove" that G-reco must be post-Turn A.Everyone in G-reco knows about the universal century and talks about the mistakes of UC and cleaning up space debris from it and so on, and there are statues of mobiles suits from UC. But NO OTHER timeline is even mentioned in passing. How does it make sense that after the dark history was revealed everyone learned about all these different wars and mobile suits and timelines but ONLY UC is ever mentioned in G-reco?
>>21593884Did you know some people cite Turn A calling all of Black History "Universal Century". So any time UC is mentioned in Reco it means every other timeline?
>>21593891Thats the most retarded take yet
>>21593884Don't forget multiple references to UC only phenomenon like Minovsky Particles. Or the fact the furthest last known events of UC involve a global food crisis and the earliest events from Reco is eating people.
>>21593908>>21593904>replies 1 minute apart
Stop being autistic and just rip movie 5 already so I can leave this shit ass board again.
>>21593947I need it
>>21593939The simplest answer is word of God saying it's after Turn A, not any timeline tomfoolery you have to extrapolate or argue about. To my knowledge no one disagreed with Tomino or contradicted him, the only person to even respond, Ogata, executive producer at sunrise, was surprised and said that could be the case before moving on. We've yet to see any official combined timeline from Sunrise on the matter so they don't seem to care about it, only Tomino does
>>21594410How is that simple when it doesnt make sense?>To my knowledge no one disagreed with Tomino or contradicted himMultiple pieces of production material said otherwise. Ogata specifically in that same interview you're referencing has a bit about how this apparently makes information in booklets and such wrong. Regardless of Tomino's intentions or what he said, thats what we got. The show was made to be before it. Simple as
>>21593884>Exactly, they never even call it moonlight butterfly in the show,Its a literal plot point that these guys don't actually understand the technology they're using, this isn't a strong point for or against anything. You can't even argue that G-Lucifer's wings are weaker or smaller or pretty much anything because there's no reason to assume its pilots understood how to properly use it.
>>21594431>Ogata specifically in that same interview you're referencing has a bit about how this apparently makes information in booklets and such wrong.He says これブックレットとか全部間違えてますよねThe booklet and everything is wrongWhether he meant it or not that's an admission that Tomino is right and the booklets Sunrise produced were wrong. And Ogata admits during the interview that everyone just assumed that Turn A was set at the end of Gundam so didn't verify it. Yoshida knew Greco was set before Turn A the entire time, meaning that it was actually part of the setting notes but Ogata never bothered to look at them before publishing incorrect information. >How is that simple when it doesnt make sense?Yes it does. You think it doesn't because you're trying to arbitrarily define your own timeline. The difference is when Tomino does it he's the authoritative source.
If it's not stated inside of the anime, then it's not canon. Word of god simply doesn't matter.
>>21595206Sounds like some JK shit.
>>21593884>But NO OTHER timeline is even mentioned in passing.There was this. But the truth of the matter is simply that Tomino didn't work on any other timeline, so of course he won't reference stuff he doesn't know about.
>>21595893There was what? It’s mentioning UC
>>21595990"long history including the Universal Century" means that there were other eras aside from UC, can you even read?
>>21596096There was human history before UC you dense fuck. It’s called AD.
>>21594410The simplest answer is that if the show didn't address it then it doesn't matter one way or the other.
>>21596104It doesn't say human history before UC, it says history including UC.
>>21596146Someone add this fucker to the gymnastics meme. >it says all mankind not all humankind so lizardman is included too
Wheres movie 5
>>21596184You're the retard going "noooo, it only includes UC and AD"