Bought it on a whim. What I am for, /m/?Also G-saviour thread
a gundam game you fucking retard
Do you have a jap PS2?
A great action game, really well designed although obscure, Late UC suits, insane music, god tier atmosphere, more Late UC lore, cool main pilot, a great time indeed.
>>21557337Some Grand Turismo soundtrackI say that in a good way https://youtu.be/vqAPGeBquto
UNF designmuch superior to the original
you can't strafe nor lead shots and automatically switches to melee within a certain range even if you can't actually hit the enemies.
i've seeing concept art of the g-saviour medias in the past. From what are they? the game guidebook? or another one?
>>21557438There's was a Newtype 100 special for G-Saviour, full scans including a load of linearts at the end can be had at: https://e-hentai.org/g/1959897/f478d33518/?p=1
>>215573375/10 game at best.The final boss filtered me so hard I dropped the game without finishing it
>>21557734>got filtered>thinks he has a right to an opinion
>>21557388>automatically switches to melee within a certain range even if you can't actually hit the enemies.that sounds like Zone of the Enders
an alright 3rd person action game that has a soundtrack that wouldn't be out of place in an arcade racer.
>>21557337pretty good, especially if you handicap that it was, I forget, either a launch title or near-launch title for the PS2much less one connected to an IP that has a questionable track recordI recall enjoying messing around with it for a bit on a burnt disc but never felt compelled to really go nuts on itdefinitely worth trying at least
https://youtu.be/Mr9go_st1Sw
ROLLER BLADES
the last UC protagonist
There's this bit in DW Gundam Reborn where you help Diana learn about the "Dark History" and the during the UC era they have you go up to around Victory/F91 and then make a very pointed statement at how what we know about the Universal Century stops there and then. I don't know if that was an intentional dig at savior, but I laughed when I thought about it.
>>21558549Poor G-Saviour. If the plot was a little better, you could forgive the silly acting and still enjoy the surprisingly nice-looking CGI. A nice little B-movie.
>>21557753People can have opinions from watching a game trailer or a gameplay footage.>>21558631I would forgive the movie if it didn't spam interracial kiss scenes very often. That was fucking gross.
>>21558631The plot of the game (post movie) and the audio drama (pre movie) are argually much better. though the novel does add more information. The game itself don't even really need the story and is more it's own thing while around the same time period.>>21558645She was cute in the novel.
Thread needs more Christmas spirit.
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The GM of the IlluminatiI wonder how they find their saving to make those and the G-saviours.
I wonder how the Earth managed to heal post g-saviour considering by the time of the video game it's almost a wasteland.
>>21563469They apparently are all made from re-used parts, even the Saviour suits, which is what made them special and cheap. A genius guy named John Saviour figured out a way to overclock them basically. G-Saviour is probably what would have happened if Amuro actually installed the Tem Ray module
>>21558543such an ominous title, he truly was the last saviour of a dying world
>>21558549Might have been a shot at Gaia Gear, more likely.
>>21558470There’s a manga?Now even if we don’t get the novels translated and my reflexes suck for the game this sounds more interesting desu
>>21557379Dunno why but I'm getting major phoenix gundam vibes from this.
Anyone know if the novels are translated
>>21568686They are.In italian.
>>21568876Mamma mia I pilot the gundam >>21568876
G-Saviour Space Mode is a pretty solid design once you get over the exposed frame on the arms and legs. You get the impression that it's designed for minimum weight and maximum thrust and it has a sort of "we built this with limited resources" look.
>>21569007It's more or less canon that all factions in G-savior have limited ressources and overall knowledge in mobile suit. Testing shit to see if it works. Almost all of them are made out of scrap, especially the Illuminati suits since the Illuminati is a small group that defected CONSENT.And even CONSENT ends up splitting in the PS2 game.
>>21569162>>21569007Honestly I like the free-for-all future of G-Saviour. Seems like it's getting closer to the kind of world X was
>>21569007>high speed low drag
>>21569167With how the earth seems fuck. It looks even more gloomy than X.Honestly I can't see how the world got better in G-reco or even Turn A with how fucked the things look in G-saviour. Unless G-saviour split from the canon into an alternate future. Some part of the earth looks like compelte wasteland.
>>21569470Don't forget that in the movie they found the magic solution to the food shortage, so there is hope
>>21569472Yeah but then Kuntala
>>21569470>Some part of the earth looks like compelte wasteland.Earth already, currently is like 36% uninhabitable wastelands, so that really does not mean much
It’s cool that the whole catapult articulates
In term of power, are the G-saviour and G3 savior stronger than most Gundam or actually weaker?
>>21573595If we're being realistic, they would probably be about Z Gundam tier with G1 Saviour being on par with stuff from post OYW cutting edge projects, with the added quirk of some more advanced tech like F91 era shelf thrusters and beam shields that managed to be preserved/rediscovered
anyone had any luck ripping models from this? i wanted to rip the g3 but ninja ripper 1.x is just spitting out random exploded vertexes and i can't find anything that can even read the .nr files that 2.x spits out
>>21573595"Stronger" is always very subjective when it comes to machines, completely depends on what you're measuring. Is F91 stronger than Zeta? It is definitely faster and smaller, but beam weapons are pretty much ohko no matter what their wattage so the weapon power doesn't really matter, and Zeta has more survivability against physical weapons.
>reject the girl>embrace Coffee
UC 0224154 years after the one year war, The remains of Operation British still exist
>>21574200sovl
I wish the consent soldiers had different faces but the game probably had a shoestring budget.
>>21574184there's small variations.But I feels like it's mostly not noticeable due to the characters all having helmet beside the Lightning crew + the characters all having some "pudgy" faces for some reasons???
>>21573919>It is definitely faster and smaller, but beam weapons are pretty much ohko no matter what their wattage so the weapon power doesn't really matter, and Zeta has more survivability against physical weapons.F91 also has beam shields though, which are good for pretty much anything, beam or physical. Except its own VSBR weapons, which can penetrate even those.
does the game play like ass? tried Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam the other day and the gameplay was awful
>>21574480It's clunky since it's a 2000 PS2 game so the console had just released and the dev team likely used PS1 hardware. But it's short and there's worse.I like old clunky things
blue eyed Gundam
>The game ends with "this is only the beginning of G-saviours"They really wanted to do more and instead it failed so bad they will never directly acknowledge it again.
>>21574482I guess it doesn't hurt did you try that Gundam OYW game for the PS2? plays surprisingly well but doesn't take kindly to emulation
>>21574488They learned nothing from F91.
>>21574489I did. It aged very well graphically too>>21574494at least F91 got a shitload of side content.G-saviour will either stay ignored or will gets retconned. there's absolutely no way they explore it again. it became a mark of "shake" with both bamco and fans.
>>21574497shame, not shake, kek
>>21574488it might have done well if it wasnt so low budget. please look forward to the hollywood live action gundam movie
>>21574480Plays surprisingly smooth. Don't know where "clunky" comes from at all. It's a rail shooter like Star Fox, but without pushing you forward... so maybe more like a corridor shooter. There's auto-aim so you only need to position yourself to get a lock on and dodge enemy bullets, but you're rated based on accuracy as well so you shouldn't just go blasting like a shmup
>>21574497G-Saviour was pretty much doomed from the moment they decided the main installment of the whole initiative would be a late 90's, live action, CG-heavy, made-for-tv movie, filmed in Canada, starring Canadians, that would only air in Japan. It was just a bad fucking idea that the budget, tech, and culture weren't there yet to support.
>>21575750Try reading the production history before you start spouting bullshit nonsense.
>>21575768I have and none of that changes what I just said about it being a bad idea from the start, other than it having a theatrical release too, and an English release that came three years later.
>>21575787Clearly you didn't because the film never had a theatrical release.
>>21576681It was released theatrically in Japan on June 18, 1999. Over a full year before the film's first television airing on December 29, 2000. Take your own advice you stupid fuck.
>>21576811That was a CHARITY EVENT SCREENING you fucktard, not a national theatrical release. The same went for the US screening. Christ, do some basic ass research.
>>21577163You still haven't answered what any of this has to do with my point that G-Saviour being a live-action TV film starring Canadians wasan all around bad idea.
Was it ever explained why the game never got a japanese dub?
>>21577166Don't change the subject just because you're wrong. If you read the production background that's been talked about by oh, idk three podcasts now, you'd see it was chosen for a reason and even learn that it was praised.
>>21577186Answer the question you fuckwit. The entire venture was offputting and ended in failure, to the point that now Sunrise will barely acknowledge it beyond a single cameo in Build Fighters almost a decade ago. It was a bad idea.
>>21577196In your mind, maybe but overall, hard no. The film was received quite well on both sides. Just because Sunrise doesn't acknowledge it means squat. There's lots of shit they don't acknowledge as years go by. When's the last time a huge game release like Cross Dimension was mentioned again? Super popular Green Divers? Mega popular Gundam the Ride?
Bugu 2 and G3 savior were supposed to get gunplas but they never released
>>21557337>What I am forfuck your shit thread, faggot. just play it and find out. FUCK you faggot
>>21578187Wow, way to totally make shit up, dude. The text says:"Certain stores distributed a first-time bonus with the game, and there are also various other types available, all of which are crafted with exquisite attention to detail."
>>21578508NTA Did those figures EVER released though?
>>21557337People all talk about the BUGUs, but opinion on the Spearheads?
>>21578521nayrt either, but I'll jump in too since I've seen these things posted before. The gist is that they were 1/220 resin kits produced by Atelier Sai, which had a very, very, VERY limited distribution as a pre-order bonus. They do occassionally pop-up on the secondhand market (in fact there's someone selling them on Mercari right now if you've got 70,000 JPY burning a hole in your pocket), but that narrow release was all they were ever meant to get, so they remain very rare
>>21578585Damn, was hoping to take the bugu, but it's way too pricey.I guess my G-saviour space mode HG will do.
I like how the bugu 1 didn't even get a true render so it's just the in-game model.
>>21578543Nice, but G-Saviour has nothing but good designs imo
Opinion on the Raid?Also, anyone knows the font used for the G-saviour logo? the one on the box.
>F-Saviour>G-Saviour -> G2 Saviour -> G3 Saviour>I-Saviour>J-Saviour Where is H-Saviour?
So what was their goals anyway? They just seem to be in constant in-fighting.
One of my favourite games, still plays so smoothly to this day.
>>21557837This scratch build is so impressive.
>>21574488I think that line was written exclusively for Japanese consumers who played the game when it was new; the game was the first commercially released part of G-Saviour, the film, audio drama and novels came out after.
>>21577171Stays in keeping with theme of it being the "North American Gundam" which was in English since the promotional trailer.https://youtu.be/zD0olKfasQQ
I wish the dub was better. Especially Rhysis, dude sounds like a fucking dweeb scientist when he's supposed to be a very talented ace pilot.Reed sounds very laid back but still pretty good at least.and god the audio mixing with the soundtrack is trash.
>>21558470where can I read this manga?
>>21558785who drew these covers again?
>>21594677Suzuki Masahisa
>>21578187They were released as resin kits in very limited numbers, you tard.
Is G- Saviour actually canon
>>21594212It's fine as it is, it's more charming if anything. The quality is what you would expect from something dubbed into English in Japan.>>21594867It's more than canon.
>>21594674Japan. :)
>>21586362The in-fighting only really occurred during the events of the game with hardliners like Bais funding Project Raven in secret and the Gremley Sheep declaring a coup d'etat against the regular Congressional Armed Force.
>>21594867To what? There's no UC stuff set after it, and it doesn't reference any earlier UC stuff as having happened, so there's not anywhere for canon to actually factor in
>>21594867It's in a strange position where the era never was explored or referenced again.So for now, it's defacto canon, but if they ever go post Victory, they might retcon it, either by reusing Gaia Gear (with the Zorin Soul teased in F90 Fastest Formula) or with something else entirely, because I can't see them re-exploring the G-saviour era again.
>>21596482>and it doesn't reference any earlier UC stuff as having happenedThe game has a stage inside the dropped colony on Sydney, a stage at Kilimanjaro where Psyco Gundam was battled in Zeta, and a stage in the crashed Angel Halo (where the crew says they feel a creepy presence)
Does the game deal with the food shortage at all? I wanna see how they get from here to Kuntala
>>21597292No, it's all to do with the Illuminati fighting the hard right of the CONSENT.
>>21597456Do YOU want to see that at least?
>>21598024Fuck yeah I do.
>>21598155Like, this bullshit with engineered starvation seems like the perfect thing to go fuck sideways and lead into cannibalism right?
>>21598263I dunno man, probably, I enjoy both the film story and the game story.
>>21598276Why do you hate me
What kind of fucking weirdo name his freedom fighter group "Illuminati"???
>>21597292Well the events of the movie conclude with the technology behind deep sea farming being free to proliferate, so on paper its completely possible that the food crisis has just been solved at this point. If the Kuntala as an ethnic persuasion really is from G-Saviour, it would be so early in their story that you couldn't really contrive much connection to them at this point. I feel like the Kuntala would have formed from various groups of people recently liberated from pockets of the earth sphere that practiced cannibalism and at this point not even a generation has gone by yet to really birth them as a people. It's also entirely possible that the cannibalism atrocities that created the Kuntala in Reconguista is actually from some point after G-Saviour since Reconguista left it very vague. >>21598417My guess would actually be that the Illuminati might be formed from a coalition of previous industry elites formed some time after F91 or during Victory, that managed to preserve a lot of technology and knowledge into the decay of late UC, hence why John Saviour is able to design the Saviour line with F91 grade tech despite using the clearly retrograde RGM-196 as the basis. The preservation of this knowledge could be understood as a source of "illumination" in a dark age.
>>21598446I honestly doubt it's from G-saviour, I remember Tomino really disliking the movie. I don't think G-saviour is EVER talked in general at SunriseEven when the Jordan movie was announced, it was said to be "the first proper gundam movie", putting salt in the injury.
>>21598417Maybe baiting the actual Illuminati to come out of hiding?
>>21598456I once asked Sunrise execs at a convention about G-Saviour, they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about and skipped to the next guySeems really weird to act that way about it, they could just come out and say "we don't like it, forget about it" or something, especially since they no longer have anything to sell related to it so that won't hurt any kind of profits. Avoiding any mention or statement about it is strange.
>>21598618Did you ever stop that not every staff member that works for the company is familiar with every single project that goes on? It could have very well been before their time. But no, you had to be a dumbass member of the English fandom and ask about something because of muh canon BS.
>>21596769>the dropped colony on SydneyIs it all covered with snow?
>>21598698lmao, I'm pretty sure they were well aware of it since it was part of the big anniversary project just a few years before the con.But feel free to try to feel superior to an anon on /m/ of all places. Maybe take a look at your life and why you felt the desire to lash out in this fashion.
>>21598618Probably means they just really forgot about it, everything involving G-Saviour was only for a year while they had Turn-A Gundam about to be launched
>>21598740Turn A Gundam was technically part of the same umbrella project as G-Saviour due to 30 year anniversarybut yeah I bet the execs of today probably forgot about it. Management of modern sunrise generally does not seem to give any regard to the west whatsoever whereas the G-Saviour multimedia project was quite clearly a passion project made at the behest of Kojima tier westaboos.
>>21598754Try researching the production history before you try speaking with any authority. Also, 20 year anniversary, fucktard.
The g-saviour gunpla better be compatible with gunpla scanning and battle, I want to bully kids with my space mode
>>21598779>Also, 20 year anniversary, fucktard.yeah my bad but you don't have to be a knob about itI'm not trying to act like anything I say is definitive, but given the totality of the G-Saviour project it certainly seems like it was made by westaboos
>>21598911Legit read the production material that Zeonic put out and the robot guys talked about in their podcast. You might actually learn something instead of talking our your ass.
>>21599059>and the robot guys talked about in their podcast.you talk like people are supposed to know what this "robot guy podcast" is maybe don't be a fucking retard that expects every niche bit of information to be common knowledge and just name itI've already seen a bit of Zeonic's production material translations but those did not seem to be very extensive and the demo pitch footage was only recently released. If you have anything to add why don't you just say it instead of being angry that another bug fact collector doesn't have all the up to date bug facts you have
>>21599084Entire d detailed process: http://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=8864Not that hard to search history website
>>21598446I was always thinking it was after, and that Bioluminescence failed to take off.
>>21599059I listened to that podcast.The two guys hosting it were actually pretty good, it was nice to hear some informed opinions for once on G-Saviour, but it's probably the only time I'm ever going to listen to their show. Mark Simmons, who they had on as a guest, was insufferable though, absolute blubbering faggot.
>>21599565Which podcast is this? link to episode?I'm sick and tired of Gundam grifters on youtube talking about how awful the movie is with the most baseless cookiecutter takes so something else would be refreshing
>>21599576Podcast is Giant Robot FM, episode is from two weeks ago.
Btw, anybody has Masahisa Suzuki artbook scans? Especially interested in "Tropico" artbook which contains G-Saviour arts.
>>21599696They've been scanned.
>>21599744Great. Could you tell where can I find it? Google didn't help me.
>>21599758https://e-hentai.org/g/775337/a0282199ae/
>>21599976Thanks.
>F-saviour is named that way, not just because it's named after the Freedom, but also because it's a "fake" Saviour machine.Is there any more screenshot of it?
>>21601080No, there's nothing to screenshot, it only appears in an audio drama and the picture you posted is the only illustration of it.
why was the G-saviour 3D animation so meh when this was aired in 1998? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXDDcce4i0
>>216066455 minutes of animation versus 90 minutes. Put two and two together for that budget, dumbass.
>>21606876Not to mention the models for GS were done by Canadians. I have found that non-/m/en have a VERY hard time understanding what kind of shapes and proportions make a robot look good.The movie covers most of it up with cinematography, but some shots really show how badly the modelers do not understand cool robots and what their silhouette should look like
>>21607160
>>21606645G-Saviour's animation is honestly among the best in the franchise when it comes to making 3D motion look good. This video you posted looks pretty close to G-Saviour but it's clear that G-Saviour had a better grasp on momentum which particularly shines in scenes where the G-Saviour itself is dueling another MS. The Mission to the Rise animation also doesn't have as much dynamicism in the actual range of motion of the mechs themselves; most of the animation is large setpieces and props moving around and the mobile suits making somewhat small adjustments to otherwise static poses. You can see in the scene where the Zaku unloads on that Gundam that's pinned against the wall that the movement is kind of jerky and abrupt but it's subtle enough within the overall context of the video that it still looks good. Meanwhile G-Saviour has sequences like this:https://youtu.be/xZQ9vWgAYJo?t=288You can see at the start of the sequence, the movement of the G-Saviour and the Rai are still a little bit stiff, but immediately after the cut is some of the most natural looking animation I've seen in 3D CG robot movies period. The Mission to the Rise animation is pretty visually impressive for other reasons but for actual mobile suit combat G-Saviour has it beat out by a long shot and even puts more modern 3D CG mecha to shame (looking at you PacRim 2)Like look at this timestamp, this is better than every single tackle counter animation in GBO2: https://youtu.be/xZQ9vWgAYJo?t=436>>21607160>The movie covers most of it up with cinematography,That's an understatement, the cinematography was phenomenal. I think the G-Saviour's proportions honestly weren't too screwed over by the modeling but Freedom definitely lost out. I mean look at this novel page. >>21599597thanks
>>21607185Glad someone else appreciates the animation of G-Saviour, so many retards shit on it because it wasn't zoom zoom Gundam Seed anime ninja robots, but that would look absolutely retarded and break any sense of believable scale in a realistic 3D environment
>>21607185>>21607191I have always loved the animation in G-Saviour, glad to see this board is still not completely pozzed up.
I should make some better quality webms one of these days
>>21607171I can't say for certain, but I get the impression that the CG designers weren't anticipating that these 3D models would appear in static turnarounds in print. They look far better in motion and in dynamic action poses (promo images) than they do simply standing as the movie version is on the left. Sunrise/Bandai could have mandated print publication rights early on, so who knows. Either way, it seems like this was, in earnest, the very first time a western production company of any kind was tasked with producing and animating 3D CG sequences of one of the biggest Japanese mecha franchises, which may have escaped part of the for-hire-crew, so the onus was never on following the line art with 100% accuracy in terms of silhouette and bodily proportions. We therefore got something that was "good enough" to appear in motion but looks a little lacking when displayed in a standing pose. The Atelier Sai/Sunrise Interactive CG model is a lot more impressive, but funnily has its own proportion issues (the side thrusters are huge and I dislike how high the waist is, ironically I think the in-game model is the best the G-Saviour has ever looked).
>>21608333I think the Atelier CGI models are based on the original G-saviour gunpla in term of scale
>>21608333The game might be my favorite Gundam design style period
>>21608488for me it's>Sky of the Setting Sun>In the RawDoes the full version of White Stream (White Stream ~Special) ever plays in the game? Since Dear Mother is the credit song. It's not there.I kinda wish it was the final boss song.
>>21608526No, it's just a bonus for the CD. I actually prefer some of the instruments used on the in-game soundtrack, for example the piano preset for In The Raw.
