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So in the New Translation timeline, when Kamille finds out about the Neo Zeon War did he just say fuck all that and hit the bricks?
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>>21451410
Because fuck it. And fuck you.
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>another zeta thread
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>>21451430
It's the best series. I cannot help it, it just is.
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>>21451410
Do you think pic related actually happened and Char was devastated by what happened to Kamille?
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>>21451410
no char! that's not a moomin!
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The First Neo Zeon War doesn't happen in ANT because the Endra forces would've gotten slaughtered by Kamille in the first engagement.
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Neo Zeon gets fucked by Kamille in Triple Zeta which Tomino made as a fuck you to Double Zeta.
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>>21451529
What does the ZZZ Gundam look like
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>>21451543
Shh, he's sleeping.
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>>21451558
Cheeky bastard.
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>>21451410
i thought this pic was char sucking kamille's dick ngl
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>>21451410
>Quattro Blowjobna?
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>>21451430
it's worth talking about
feel free to make a thread about your thread about your favourite middling mecha
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Is the English dub of Zeta worth watching?
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>>21451622
>dub
Why so you can hear Monica Rial voice 6 different women including Kamile?
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>>21451579
It isn't?
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>>21451529
This is the greatest timeline
>>21451543
Ask Mark Simmons, he ran a ZZZ rpg campaign decades ago so I'm sure he's got a sketch of it
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>>21451543
S is effectively triple Z
Sinanju Stein is quadruple Z
Vigna-ZZZZZirah
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>>21451529

Plamo Kyoshiro beat Tomino to the ZZZ Gundam decades.
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>>21451446
I believe that Char is confronted by Amuro in the CCA novel about Kamille's fate and Char says he doesn't care at all
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The war doesn't happen because Haman's heart grew three sizes and she sent Mineva to Earth.

I once had an idea for how a ZZ ANT could happen, where after Haman sents Mineva to Earth, Yazan and a small group of Titans survivors kill her, or actually her double. Kamille is incapacitated in some way, like a broken or maybe even amputated arm or something, that leads him into becoming a teacher for Judau instead of a fellow pilot. But I never developed it beyond this initial set-up
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>>21452267
Is there any source for this? I mean, it sure matches his Origin characterization and how Char only uses people to get what he wants except for those who can be his mommy.
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>>21452267
That's so depressing. I hate thinking about that. I'm glad Tomino never wrote another story for Kamille and he just leaves to be a normal person. He suffers so much.
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>>21451410
Char seems like he can deep throat fyi.
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>>21452267
sounds like a humongous cope from Mr. Comet
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>>21451446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMz7YHPIiI

Do we count games as canon?
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Char useless as always. Luckily for Kamille, Judau exists
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>>21452333
I wish Char was my Daddy.
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>>21452347
Kamille looks retarded in this picture.
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>>21452367
Have you not seen ZZ? He has brain damage.
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>>21452323
Well he did end up trying to drop an asteroid so yeah, sounds like he ran out of copium
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>>21452347
>HAI JOOWIE
>Judau. I'm Judau.
>HAI... ETSUBATSU
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>>21452389
I know he has brain damage, but he doesn't look retarded. He's like a dignified vegetable.
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>>21452303

The novel has never been officially published in English and I don't think there's any complete fan translations or even on-going ones, but some folks here have tracked down digital copies of the book and translated the relevant lines if that's an acceptable source for you. https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/19654219/#19664700

> I found it. And holy fuck, Char is an absolute asshole in High Streamer. It's page 208 of book 1 for anybody else who looks in the future. I'll provide the original text in case anybody else can translate it better.

>「……シャア!? やはり、住きていたのか!?」
>"... ... Char?! You're still alive after all?!"
>「フン……ハマーン・カーンごとき女との闘いで、命を全うできるか!?」
>"Hmph... ... Do you think I would give up my life fighting a woman like Haman Karn?!"
>「よく言う!カミーユ・ビダンという少年を狂わしたのを知らないわけがあるまい!」
>"Of course not! But then, you must know that that boy named Kamille Bidan lost his mind!"
>「脆弱なのは美徳ではないよ!アムロ!」
>"Vulnerability is not a virtue! Amuro!"
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>>21451543
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>>21452631
>Vulnerability is not a virtue
>as said by one of the most vulnerable men in UC
I mean... I guess he would know better than anyone
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>>21452389
i mean its hard to ever forget trauma of that magnitude, but he still recovers fairly well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZI7a1Md89E&t=155s
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>>21451410
New Translation probably has him doing his best until Dublin and the Feds vote to recognize the Zabis.
>>21452631
>"Vulnerability is not a virtue! Amuro!"
Char really is running out of copium.
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>>21452303
>>21452267
Not just that, camille was originally going to be the gyunei/grav of the story, being used as an expendable footsoldier by Char who gets killed to show how Char doesn’t care about his own people. Tomino changed it because he figured Camille would not follow Char in those circumstances
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>>21452312
ANT was Tomino’s definitive ending to Camille. He said he wants it to be canon.
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>>21453016
is there any source on that? seeing how between high streamer, CCA and Beltorchika's Children he never went through with it and Gyunei's character isn't anything like Kamille it's kinda doubtful
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>>21453016
Stop with this obvious lie already, goddamn.
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>>21453025
Gyunei’s position, not character. He said he made Grav as a new character because he couldn’t think of Camille acting like that or following Char here.

>>21453030
It’s in a pic of an old interview that’s been reposted on futaba channel before. I’m not sure what the book/magazine is though.
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>>21453034
I read that interview but Tomino didn't exactly say that Kamille was to be Gyunei. If I don't recall wrongly Tomino was asked why Kamille wasn't in CCA and he answered what >>21453034 says.

Anyways, Neo-Zeon Kamille is cool
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>>21453089

Sorry I meant >>21453016
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>>21452333
Char would be a hands off Dad who spoils his kids rotten when he is actually around.
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>>21453724
>Char gets over his insanity and becomes a family man
Please don’t put that kind of image in my head. All I want you a happy endings for so many of these characters, Char included even if he’s an asshole. It’s too depressing.
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>>21451410
>finds out about the Neo Zeon War
Another reason Based Yuu Kajima BTFO that girl named Kamille.
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>>21453089
He's asked why no Kamille and said he was originally there but the character didn't fit in the position because Kamille wouldn't blindly follow Char, so he made the character of Gravs Guss instead.
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Haman and Kamille needed more time together...He could of been a lover to her...
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>>21452631
That's transcripted and translated by someone who doesn't understand Japanese and probably used an image-to-text thing and machine translation. The gist of Char being a dick who didn't care about what happened to Kamille is right but you're a moron if you take direct quotes like "vulnerability is not a virtue" from this at face value.
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>>21451446
>Do you think that the guy who openly supported use of cyber newtypes, and would go on to exploit newtypes in the future, cared when the newtype he routinely beat and sent into life threatening situations got brain damage.
No.
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>>21454559
Two cute autists. It works way too well.
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>>21453018
>>21453089
But what does happen after ANT continuity Zeta when Kamille remains sane, and Haman withdraws from the Earth Sphere? Does Quattro rejoin the AEUG or return to Zeon? Do the AEUG continue their campaign against the Federation? Does Glemmy still revolt against Haman with his loli army? Does Judau still skip school to fool around with fascist space cougars?
Forget UC2 or NeXt100, these are the real questions
>Capcha 0ZRGM
>(he mistypes it...!)
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>>21455409
Char revolts against Haman instead of Glemy, but Glemy works for Char. Judau and Kamille team up to stop Zeon together. Kamille helps Judau build the ZZ.
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>>21453089
Need the fan fic version of CCA where Kamille's brain damage turns him into a yandere zeek
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>>21455423
>Judau and Kamille team up to stop Zeon together
Haman’s Zeon or Char’s Zeon? Because if Char coups Haman before she can invade Earth (which will take longer after Axis’ withdrawal) I could see Char’s Zeon allying with the AEUG and Karaba to finish the Federation once and for all.
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>>21455744

I couldn't for a very simple reason; neither AEUG or Karaba want to destroy the Federation. They want to destroy the Titans sure, but they just want the Federation to become more democratic and finish pushing citizens into space, not destroy the Federation. I'm not even sure Char would want to in that situation, since he implies he wants the Federation to win in 0079 while talking to Sayla, and is actively fighting for them in Zeta.
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Anway something eventually happens between Judau and Kamille to cause Kamille to become resentful towards the AEUG and Char snatches him up to work for him. Then Char and Haman team up to stop Glemy and start CCA. Thats how Kamille ends up in Neo Zeon and secretly fucking Haman on the side. There ya go.
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>>21455788

> I did it guys!
> And all it took was completely ignoring all established character
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>>21455744
>>21455780
It depends on the Federation reaction to Dublin. If they flee Dublin, abandon the citizenry, and recognize the Zabis like canon, Char is going to demand the destruction of the Federation.

If they make every effort to stop it but fail, CHar will let them off.
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>>21455800
Yeah thats how fanfiction works.
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>>21452303
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>>21455809
Yeah, he's definitely fucking salty that Kamille got mindraped. Char really hates humanity.
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>>21455809
>>21455826
So I take ZZ is really not-canon?
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I wish it was real so much.
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>>21456220

ZZ is animated (yes, yes, I know you want to make an "anime ja nai" joke here), the novels aren't; therefore ZZ is canon. I guarantee you I can find more timelines and works that explicitly build off of ZZ than you can either novel for that matter. In fact, I'm not sure anything bar the Hathaway's Flash novel builds off either, and the movie adaptations of the novel explicitly build off Char's Counterattack instead.
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>>21456314
But what continuity High Streamer is following? Because Amuro dies in the 0079 novel so that can't be it.
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>>21456330
Isn't High Streamer just the CCA movie except with a prologue section?
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>>21452333
No so much as devastated but as another rationale for his misanthropy.
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>>21454564
The translation is correct dipshit
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>>21456330

The original show and Zeta; it just doesn't acknowledge at least Kamille's recovery in ZZ. It may actually acknowledge other elements of ZZ for all I know, but it doesn't recognize that Kamille recovered so it's out of step with ZZ in at least that regard.

>>21456395

High Streamer has a couple of other minor differences looking at summaries of it, like the Re-GZ's back weapon system not being destroyed during the battle at Fifth Luna, and thus being usable in further battles. It's mostly the same though.
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>>21456774
You don’t understand Japanese
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>>21456220
Do we have to have this argument every time? Yes it's cannon, as far as the anime timeline is concerned, it happened regardless of the Zeta movies.
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>>21459501
Tomino deliberately ignored it in his novel sequel. I take his word over Sunrise desu
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>>21455409
SRW T but broad strokes. Both Haman and Char survive CCA and open a convenience store in Tallahassee. Sayla dies instead of Amuro during the Axis drop.
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>>21459515

He also chose to include it in ZZ; why does his word in the novels count over his word in the animation? And yes, I'm aware that he didn't serve as a script writer on much of ZZ; but he also didn't serve as the script writer for much of Zeta past episode 16 and he barely wrote most of his other shows (bar G-Reco) so I'm not really sure why that matters. He's the show's director, and has to approve everything regardless. Including showing Kamille recovering. Just because he didn't write it doesn't mean he wasn't the one setting that direction and approving of it happening. It's also ignoring that Tomino basically always makes a lot of changes between his novels and animations.
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>>21459515
Ignored it how?
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>>21459529
Hell yeah dude.



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