>https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/a-new-single-player-mechwarrior-game-is-in-development/Are we finally witnessing the mecha vidya renaissance, /m/?
>>21418959It's gonna be clan invasion, isn't it?
PGI should die and never be allowed to make any games again
I would probably buy it. I thought the Mechwarrior Online UI was OK, but I'm not into online arena games. I would love a single player 1st person giant robot game. My dream game is a simulator as good as the old X-Wing series but for robots instead of spaceships.
>mechwarriorThey're trying to kill off the return of mechs before it even had a chance clearly.
>>21419499Well then get a fucking new IP from the West that actually sells and isn't just a watered down clone of a Japanese one which doesn't understand why the original was good.Too bad Earth/Star Siege is long dead and Tribes stole it's corpse
>>21419231that's right, freebirth scum
>>21419231I'm never getting my dark age game.>>21419541>New IP>Actually sellsNot a chance. Easier to use the corpse of MechWarrior than either establish a new IP or use an even dustier corpse like Earth/Starsiege or Heavy Gear.
>>21419669Would've been smarter to make it an expansion pack for 5. That way the passage of time in the game actually matters.>>21419695>All the cool mechs in the later eras we'll never get to see>All the non standard mechs like quads and lams in the eras we do have to play never to be available because PIG says they're "impossible to implement"Suffering
>>21419706That's what mods are for sweetie>>21419499Where did Catalyst touch you?
>>21419499>They're trying to kill off the return of mechs before it even had a chance clearly.God I hope so, /v/ can choke on a bag of dicks
>>21419695What's the point of dark age without the Japanese mech designs?
>>21419770>That's what mods are for>Relying on the community to add to the game what should've been added in the first place by the devsThat just makes PGI look WORSE, I'm afraid.
>>21419706LAMs suck ass anyways. Deal with it
>>21420488It's not me who'll have to deal with it, I got the tabletop and modded hbs bt for that.It's the mechwarrior secondaries that settle for a game series that has sadly stagnated that'll have to deal with it.
>>21419231Probably, HBS Battletech and MechWarrior 5 bent over backwards to tease the Clans, next big budget Battletech game being about the Clan Invasion only makes sense.
is it true that the CGL wasnt involved at all with the HG lawsuit and PGI is solely responsible for getting all of the old unseen mechs out of legal jail?
>Single-playerIt's really sad MechWarrior Online will be the last multiplayer MechWarrior we'll ever see.
Does MW4 run well on modern systems?
>mecha vidya renaissanceDon't do that. Don't give me hope.
>Armored Core>MechwarriorPlease let the Zone of the Enders return and while we're at it Virtual-On as well.>>21421201That custom Robo? I'd love for that to come back
>>21421201if AC6 is a success other dev will very likely make their own cores-likes
>>21418959I WANT MECHASSAULTfuck Mechwarrior dgm4a
>>21421183Compared to MW3 or HG2 it's a walk in the park. MekTek even had versions of MW4Mercs with widesceen and additional mechs.
>>21421230They won't. You need serious autism for mechs. Soulslike devs only have half-baked autism. Plus it's easier to sell fantasy than scifi.
>>21419231Most likely, the MW5 campaign involves them pretty fundamentally, and the next and probably last campaign expansion is gonna be about the creation of the Rasalhague Republic which is right on the edge of of the Clan Invasion timeline wise.
>put out an okay (not amazing, not shit) single-player battletech game with optional co-op>MAKE IT EASILY FUCKING MODDABLE>???>turns into the next major western vidya franchise easilyall they have to do is use two fucking braincellswhich is why it will probably be shit
Far LAM is far
>>21422277There might be a chance that someone makes a janky 40k titan/knight simulator off the back of the success of the new AC and mechwarrior.
>>21418959I can only imagine this will be shit.
>>21419231Obviously they are since they set it up with 5 and some of the most popular content mods for 5 are clan mods.>>214211375 has co-op and the new one will too but if you mean pvp specifically then complain to the boomers that keep giving MWO money.
>>21422438Making a game moddable is actually really difficult, depending on what they choose to expose.Honestly the biggest problem will probably be the story or lack thereof.
all the effort being wasted on these new titles should be redirected into reinvigorating MWO. or instead stop doing new game development and drop this funding into bandai's hands to develop proper mechwarrior model kits instead.
>>21422438>an okay (not amazing, not shit) single-player battletech game with optional co-op>EASILY FUCKING MODDABLEThat's what Mechwarrior 5 was and it didn't become the next major anything.
>>21421230Fuck I love this guy's videos.
>>21418959only good if they ape the aesthetics of the HBS game rather than the buttrock shit they had going on in MW5
>>21423525bleed zoomer
>>21424001>Guy plays and reviews lesser known indie games and small student projects clearly and concisely with a good amount of footage and doesn't have his face plastered all over the screenWhat's there to hate?
>>21418959if it'll be all about randomly generated missions - they can fuck right off.
>>21423098People assume "mods will save everything"They are quite dumb in that aspect.For games to gain modding scene, it needs to be at least somewhat good, or unique enough to particular niche so they'll care since there is nothing else.There is also only so many decent people who can mod something good, and tons of some whatever mods. Good mod can take years to make.Just cause you can quickly shit out mod aka "look, I changed few assets and parameters" ain't going to do much.All you gonna get "I added waifus to this game lmao", "look I fixed this game mechanics cause I'm so smart", etc.And right now game market is so fucking oversaturated in wrong places, developers care about these dumb fucks who worship mods. "Hey guys, you can do ANYTHING (therefore we don't need to do anything ether), and if you dislike our game, mod it, why you are hating so much, hater, how dare you dislike this thing, when we gave you tools to mod it!".
>>21424175>>>/v/
>>21424008He's popular. So obviously it's the worst thing ever.
how's 5?
>MW5 announced, released and re-released on steam with workshop support>nobody gives a shit>AC6 merely announced>everybody is losing their mindWestern mecha is a fucking joke
>>21427346Bait but I'll bite. No one cared for MW5 because of these thingsFirst PGI is notoriously shit with how they handled MWO so people were already skeptical, then they had a rugpull with making MW5 exclusive on the EGS store, finally the game itself was extremely underbaked when it did release and was buggier than MW2 Mercs on its release. Plus MechWarrior is just too much of a boomer franchise to have many younger players interested. Half of AC6 hype also comes from the fact that its a From title from people who probably never touched an AC game before AC6s announcement and only really know From because of Souls. Titanfall 3 would have had more hype and another jap IP like Front Mission 6 would have less (thanks Left Alive). Its not a simple west vs east meme. Theres other factors in play such as reputable developers.
>>21427346Trusted developer with modern clout + Armored Core players who genuinely love their series. Have never give a shit about MechWarrior, even when i was a kid. Fucking cope.
>>21427346Always has been. Western mechs have been comedy of errors from copyright infringement lawsuits to chicken walkers.
>>21427641You do know there's western IPs outside of battletech right?
>>21420654The clans really made Battletech obnoxious. The "you but cooler" when it came to weapons was ridiculous because of course every idiot wanted their max clantech mech. What they SHOULD have done was, "Your shitty Inner Sphere reactors can only handle up to TWO Clantech mods." rather than making it the new meta.
>>21427694I would agree with you but I'm too addicted to ClanTech ERPPCs to say that without being a massive hypocriticThey just feel so goddamn good to use on tabletop my beloved Marauder IIC has fucking three of them. And I managed to cram in a targeting computer into it too.
>>21427346From is a star dev right nowIf Rockstar games announced they were making Wing Commander 5 the internet would shit itself
>>21428516You mean Wing Commander 6, didn't we already have WC5 (Prophecy?)
>>21428558I have zero firsthand knowledge of WC after 2, my bad
>>21427321Pretty good if you play it on PC but boring if you play it on console. Mods saved yet another half baked game, hopefully the new game will take some inspiration from them but it's PGI so it will be another poorly thought out rush job.
>>21427412>Titanfall 3 would have had more hypeI really wonder about that.>>21427657Like what? Like fucking what my dude? Titanfall? Robot Jox? Trans fucking formers lol?
>>21429249>Like what? Like fucking what my dude? Titanfall? Robot Jox? Trans fucking formers lol?Well yeah, plus Heavy Gear, Sym-Bionic Titan, Megas XLR, Pacific Rim, and others. All of which feature original designs not lifted from pre-existing japanese properties nor feature chicken walkers as the dominant mecha type. There's clear inspiration but its in the form of a love letter rather than looking to make a quick buck. Even though I like Battletech myself, it really did damage the outlook on western mecha alongside Robotech with all the legal bullshit and imagery.
>>21421201I mean....https://yellowfallgames.itch.io/battlecore-robots
>>21419231I want to do melee in a tiny handed Stormcrow.
>>21418959Yes we are
>>21418959My issue with this studio is that I got the epic game bullshit launcher, paid for the pre-order, and then was left with a shittier version of the better crafted expansion version that I should have just waited to buy. I know that's petty but it really hurt that I've been waiting for this game for years and get kind of a piss poor experience. I'm just gonna pirate the new version now so oh well
>>21427694Although with melee, cheaper equipment and alternate ammo for IS mechs, you can level the playing field pretty quick on the tabletop.
I wish the MW:LL team could be given a serious budget and allowed to make a full official MW game complete with single player campaign. I imagine it would be incredible.
>>21418959>Are we finally witnessing the mecha vidya renaissance, /m/?Is it going to be another simplified take on it with half of the mechanics of the original game?Mechwarrior was already limited as a turret-with-legs, almost just a FPS with harder controls.I've rarely seen the concept of mecha used in a worthwhile way.At first you could explain it easily by early computer limitation, no physic engine, no real time calculation, turn-by-turn...etcBut nowadays we've got Indy games doing billions of game centered around physics.
So I hear 5 finally implemented melee in a recent expansion module.
>>21437062First punching in Kestrel Lancers then actual melee weapons in Call to Arms.If we're lucky we may get kicking in MW6.
>>21437075Are the melee weapons even worth a damn?
>>21437075I always thought the hurdle was in making it not seem like jank flailing around. It's nice that there's more than just bodychecking and DFA now though.If we make it so far as seeing Marauders doing Glaug windmills then that'll be something to have a giggle at.
>>21437095Not really in my experience. I haven't found a situation yet where even assault melee weapons are more efficient than those LB-X shotguns (I think) at close range. They're also a little difficult to acquire. I mentioned this before but when I got the melee DLC for MW5 I was really excited to load up my atlas with a big battleaxe or something, but then I found out only one variant of the Atlas had a weapon hardpoint and I'd have to grind enough money to buy it or find one.
>>21428714Those fools blame HIM for the loss of the Tiger's Claw. He will never fly a fighter again.
>>21419541>a watered down clone of a Japanese one which doesn't understand why the original was goodwhat did battletech take from japan besides a few designs?
>>21439856Some story lines and plots of mecha anime at the time (pentagon civil war is L-Gaim, SLDF exodus + clan invasion is southern cross, etc.) as well as planets and some characters (Wolf Dragoons Zeta Battalion)
>>21437095I do not know or do not care, I all know is I must chop.
>>21439789I don't get the nobody bit or why it's blank. Wouldn't you just have the picture of the bear without the nobody?
>>21439789
>>21437095The problem is that the tabletop Mechs are supposed to have human-like movements and agility, so melee weapons make sense.Having an axe mounted on a tank like in the games is way less useful.
>>21444038they are definitely cumbersome, but not as chunky slow as in them mechwarrior games
>>21444146Mechwarrior games have been married to this clunky era of gaming for nearly 35 years with barely any improvement to the physics. You could even fall down in MW1. Here's the Japanese port. https://youtu.be/KI8-Oq3G9CI
>>21437095They are excellent head poppers. I have a melee grasshopper with a supercharger, it's pretty fun to run after the enemy mechs like a maniac.
>>21444921Hell a lot of the "Clunky Era" often was shit framerate because you didn't have the arbitrary graphics card which had the compatibility for the most random fucking feature that made it run great. If you didn't then enjoy everything running like ass forever even if you had the "Recommended" specs or better.
Hullo from Wausau, it's Sub Zero Shootout 2!
>>21446857My point is you can point to something like Pac-Man or Super Mario and say, "yeah that gameplay is classic and holds up" but somehow Mechwarrior is wedded to this mid-80s idea of a 3d action game. Even if you wanted to emphasize Battlemechs as vehicles, Mechwarrior 5 can't even manage the deftness of a Twisted Metal game or hell even BattleTanx.
I missed this. fuck
Cancelled Mechassault 3 on the Xbox 360. this was around 2010
>>21453760>wolf snout and earsFucking Clanners, I swear...
>>21453760Looks like some creepy furry BDSM shit.
What are some good Mech games on PC that won't make my PC explode? I'm talking less than 8GB of ram and 1GB of VRAM here
>>21455488Potentially MechWarrior Online but certainly MechWarrior 4. Assault Suits Leynos now has a PC Port through Steam.
>>21455488Considering that most PC mech games on PC are from more than 20 years ago, I'd say all of them.MechWarrior 2, 3, 4, MechCommander 1 and 2, Heavy Gear 1 and 2, Earthsiege, Starsiege
>>21455488Basically what >>21457935 said plus emulation up to 5th gen. You should be able to emulate Front Mission 1-3 and Armored Core Gen 1.
>>21457975It would be worth trying FM4-5. He can also run the 3rd gen AC games via a PSP emu.
>>21421230Core-likes already exist anon. Machineclad, Project Six, Hammer, DxM. Give it time and Core-likes will be #1 genre worldwide
>>21420620LAMs are canonically garbage tho. Beyond the concept being cool gameplay wise they’d be fragile as hell. Beyond the Wasp, Stinger and PH LAMs there’s the Blakeist LAMs but they’re hardly anything
>enjoy playing MW5>think tonnage is retarded>have like 10 slots for weapon but I can only fill 4>add mod to make weapons weightless>time to game
>>21418959Wouldn't mind a remake of MW2 and expansions. They'd probably completely fuck it up though.
>>21423098the developer lying to those that pre ordered that it would be on steam opening, and then going with an epic games exclusive for a year did not help, and piranha sucks
>>21444921I've always wondered: how different is the x68000 version? Would it be possible to transplant the text from the DOS version to the japanese one?
>>21461894I mean most LAMs you'd find post Star League are usually stuck in either mech mode (or hard locked in that mode to avoid getting stuck mid transformation) or are in this weird mixed flight/mech mode.
>>21421201Custom Robo, Can Master Race reporting in.
Anyone tried that Rasalhague DLC that came out the other day?
>>21469667I just started it since the main mods I use finally caught up. If you played Kestrel Lancers then this is just like it. The Crusader is pretty fun but there are other missile boats at that weight range so it's not a must have.
>>21444038The new First Person controls make it a lot easier to dodge AC and PPC shots
>>21469824MW5 has new controls?
>>21444146>>21444038When you read the lore and fiction and see stuff like 'mechs leaping into the air and going into a fucking roll when hitting the ground, nimbly dodging missiles, grabbing enemies with their hands, doing martial arts poses, hand-stands and elbow drops it makes me wonder why even bother with the games if they portray the setting so inaccurate, none of the games don't even mention the neurohelmet.
>>21419695You can play the dark age game right now, go outside and use sticks.
>>21473387There's a new control scheme in the options menu that lets you strafe sideways. It's what the "Try something new with the added first-person, conventional shooter controls-style mode for gamepad, keyboard and mouse" was on the update page.
>>21418959Fuck that, I am still waiting for the sequel to pic related.