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Spaceships are /m/ so post your favorite spaceships, all sizes classes and designations
I know /m/ generally has nothing but seething contempt for the OG Trek but I honestly believe yo can't beat the classic and NCC-1701 defines iconic.
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>>21292449
While spaceships are /m/, they are usually warships. Federation starships don't really fit that description, with a few exceptions during the Dominion War.
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> I know /m/ generally has nothing but seething contempt for the OG Trek

Trek doesn't have enough Chris Foss chonkiness.
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>>21292477
>Federation starships don't really fit that description
Their a heavily armed vessel, run like a military that is sent out into the depths of space. It's a warship. They only say it's not because they're a bunch of sanctimonious assholes who think they're better than everyone else in the universe because they don't use money.
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>>21292724
Warships aren't full of science stations, spacious crew quarters, arboretums, and recreational spaces far in excess of what would be in a military vessel.

They have the ability to defend themselves, but exploratory vessels like the Enterprise are absolutely not warships. All those added facilities create a massive impact on combat efficiency.

At any rate. Here's an actual Federation warship.
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>>21292449
Ugly
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For me it's the Viper
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>>21292909
>They have the ability to defend themselves
They can annihilate an entire planet from orbit if they want.
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>>21293021
So can literally every other warp-capable species.

It's like when you're hiking through the woods, do you really fucking think a .22 will protect you from a grizzly bear? Federation exploratory vessels are -adequately- armed, no more no less.
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>>21292716
GOAT
>>21292484
The core design concept of the Enterprise is "Couldn't possibly exist in Earth Gravity".
Which makes the design and the shooting model all the more impressive both in that it communicates that design language while holding up to real world filming without falling to pieces.
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>>21293084
That's just their own ego talking. They deal with pre warp civilizations just as often as they do post warp ones. When "adequate" still means planet scale destruction it's time to take a long hard look at yourselves. There are a lot of ships in Trek that are far less well armed.
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>>21292449
>I know /m/ generally has nothing but seething contempt for the OG Trek
Since when? I really must not have been paying much attention. Here I was thinking /m/ was one of the boards with the least amount of shit taste.
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>>21293121
>Since when?

since /krg/ zoomers determined board policy so now old = bad episodic = bad
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>>21293112
Now that I think about it, the topic of whether Starfleet ships are excessively armed would've made for a good episode of Star Trek.

It's been mentioned several times throughout the series, but never really given its own episode.
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>>21293112
thats what being prepared is about. Better have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Just like how the Louis and Clark Expedition was an armed survey
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>>21293272
Nobody is arguing the importance of being prepared. The point is Starfleets stuck up sanctimony about them "NOT BEING AN ARMY." Go watch the episode were Ryker throws a hissy fit because some higher ups want them to take part in war games. There is nothing WRONG with being a military and having a warship but don't sale a dreadnaught up to my shores and call it a fucking cargo vessel.
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not really a spaceship but I really like the Gran Galan and I wish I could marry Ciela Lapana
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>>21293026
Classics.
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>5 people on the Enterprise
>all of them on the bridge
>lights for all the other rooms on the ship are on
why
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Those silly tiny nacelles that deploy from the saucer during MVAM mode will never not be retarded.
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Good to see Fivers still remain even now.
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>>21294801
I really dislike the nuTrek ship designs. They should stick to stealing designs from STO if they can't be bothered to hire an artist who isn't right out of school, which seems to be the case after canonizing the Enterprise-F.
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"We are going where no man has gone before to unlock the secrets of the universe. It's pretty incredible, think about it."
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>>21294815
Anon, Doug Drexler and John Eaves were part of the staff that worked on DS9, VOY, ENT and the TNG movies.
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>>21294865
Jusus fucking Christ, where'd all their talent go?! Did they just phone it in?

Seriously, it looks like deviantart-tier fanshit that looks like Mass Effect.
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>>21293189
>Now that I think about it, the topic of whether Starfleet ships are excessively armed would've made for a good episode of Star Trek.
How distrustful some of the other powers can be of the federation makes a lot of sense when you realise that star fleet's reluctance to have dedicated military ships just means that they have lots of ships that are as heavily armed as war ships but that are officially exploration vessels.
Imagine being some secondary power and there's a galaxy class or similar ship poking around the edge of your space, which is armed enough to fight dedicated warships and fought on the front line in the dominion war. So you complain to the feds about this provocative military build up and those assholes dismiss your complaint saying it's actually just studying some amoebas with their dedicated amoeba studying lab.
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>>21292449
A great ship from cheap but kino Bong SF
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>>21294894
>Jusus fucking Christ, where'd all their talent go?!
Never had any to start with.

More seriously- as far as TV and films go, the last Starfleet ship to look properly Trek was either the Nebula or Ambassador class (can't recall what order they appeared in) in the earlier seasons of TNG. The TOS Enterprise was designed by Matt Jefferies, the TOS movie design was co-designed by Jefferies and Andrew Probert. Probert went on to design the Enterprise-D (and by extension Nebula) and Ambassador. The Excelsior and Oberth classes are mostly the work of model makers Bill George and Steve Gawley. These guys all "got it" in managing to blend futuristic shapes with grounded aesthetics.

Drexler, Eaves, and that cadre of artists that came on during later TNG and beyond aren't bad artists by any stretch, but their work on Trek marked a distinct shift away from clean nautical lines and toward boxier shapes covered in noisy detail crust that uglies up the designs to no real benefit. Their work is fine on a technical level, but I think it was a bad direction for Star Trek specifically.
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>>21293886
>You dinnae want to give the game away to the Klingons, do you laddie?
Gotta love the days when science fiction was written prior to the invention of integrated computer control.
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>>21295032
I like that the Liberator's bridge prominently features a 1970s round couch thing that's perfectly positioned to look at the ship's big screen.
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>>21295034
The work Rick Sternbach did when he designed the Enterprise C or the Voyager is not bad; and Drexler is the guy that was given the Akira by the producers and told "this is the NX Enterprise", and managed to age it enough to more or less fit the era. The problem is Eaves. He follows the idea of "rule of cool first, other considerations later", and that's how we get the masses of spikes and greeblies that are the Son'a ships, Shinzon's ship from NEM, and the Breen ship of DS9 (which doesn't make any structural sense).

Now, going back to that Stargazer, I don't mind it. It's blockier than I like and the saucer doesn't mesh well with the back section, but for a 2022 ST ship you could do worse.
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>>21295071
Avon is based, and Servalan is the cutest space dictator I've seen. Incredible ending too.
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>>21295242
I like the Breen ships in particular being bafflingly weird. It underscores that they're working off completely different considerations than the typical aliens we've seen (or want us to think that, at least). The Scimitar and Son'a ships are far less defensible.
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When I watched TPP I hated the naboo ships because I was too young and dumb to understand what Lucas was going for.
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>>21292716
mmmm Enterprise Refit mmmmm
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>>21296940
I remember that part from the Voyager intro: https://youtu.be/Z_OylbFmMJU?t=30

Incidentally, the show has issues, but the intro is amazing; it's full of vistas we had never seen in ST, like the aforementioned nebula or the ship flying over a planet's ring and being reflected in it; and the theme captures perfectly the feeling of mistery, of being in an unknown place where anything could be possible. What a pity.
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does this count
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>>21297456
Sir this is a blue board
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>>21292449
Startrek is art-deco shit
Only acceptable half a century ago because they didn't have much budget and a frigging sliding door counted as post-utopia future but the franchise should have died decade ago to leave room for new stuff.

Let me post the polar opposite of StarTrek, the webcomic Schlock Mercenary,

Instead of being goody explorer from the planet utopia, they are mercenaries from plutocrat mankind.
- no replicator, they fab everything from matter or at least energy for the super civilization.
- what pansy ship need reaction-engine nowadays? You control gravity right? Then use it for propulsion. Even the redshirt can fly on their own.
- Hey captain Kirk! Our ship AI laugh at your limited 3Dimensional thinking, it already predicted all your moves and planned your death in the time it took you to read the first two letter of this post.
- so you want instant teleporter? I give you that tenfold, but now the setting is ruled around who have teraport, anti-teraport device, cage that breach teraport interdiction or worse a END GUN that can shot anywhere, interdiction field or not.
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>>21292484
>Chris Foss chonkiness.
Patrician taste there
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>>21297734
I know I've seen that ship in the bottom left with the blue and red thrusters before, but I can't quite place it.
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Ah, I see we have someone with Atomic Rocket level taste
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>>21297750
and a last one
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>>21297738
Oh really?
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>>21297754
Thanks, old chum.
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>>21297761
>Thanks, old chum.
>old chum.
That's it,
I didn't want to do it but you forced my hand
Now you'll have to live with the result, there's no going back.

I'm posting the new movie version
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>>21297776
Oh, I'll be friendly and courteous all day long and you'll just have to sit there and deal with it. This is the bed you've made for yourself.
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It counts, don't @ me faget
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>>21297777
Did the hire Giger to design it?
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>>21297943
desu Giger worked with enough random productions that I wouldn't be too shocked if it turned out he did concept on that a thousand years ago like that Mead Yamato
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>>21297714
>Old? Bad
>New? Good

Stunning and brave
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>>21297714
>misidentifies art deco
>seems oblivious as to how time actually passes and the concept of the far future changes
>starts shilling some dogshit literally who comic nobody gives a shit about

We've hit the zoomer cringe quota for this thread in a single post
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>>21292449
My favorite will always be the Goa'uld Ha'tak pyramid ships.
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>>21297804
>Oh, I'll be friendly and courteous all day long and you'll just have to sit there and deal with it. This is the bed you've made for yourself.
You damn saint! Does your friendliness know no limit?!
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>>21299068
Schlock Mercenary is genuinely pretty decent though, John Ringo took a lot of the ideas for 'Legacy of the Aldenata' /Posleen War series from it. One of the few good right-wing space opera that actually rebutted the marxist nonsense of TNG-era Trek without just blindly endorsing Bush-era neoconism. Also it's been going since 2000 so its more late Gen-X than anything. Artstyle's a bit iffy IMO but the writing's where its at.
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>>21298221
Startrek as a franchise is still trying to push series, movies and merchandises today.
Maybe you should have a talk with >>21299068

>misidentifies art deco
How would you call that then? Retro Futurism?

>seems oblivious as to how time actually passes and the concept of the far future changes
You are playing stupid, the point is that Startrek can't evolve, even a 20y old webcomic did.
Did you live in a cave for 20 years?
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Why is it impossible to have a single thread on /m/ anymore without at least one screeching faggot like yourself having a breakdown that media pre-2000 exists?
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NTA, but just because Trek was one of the earliest American SF series to really take off in a visual medium, doesn't mean it should be immune from criticism. Especially with how asinine the current STD show is.
I think TOS holds up fairly well, although it is very hammy, and DS9 and roughly half of TNG is also fairly engaging. But Voyager ended up being a TNG remake with better graphics, Enterprise was roughly half a Voyager remake before the (actually fairly decent) Xindi War arc. The Abrams films were re-skinned Star Wars dry runs, STD really is just as bad as everyone here says it is, Picard is one of those SW Prequel Trilogy-type deals that takes out your nostalgic childhood memories of TNG and promptly knees them in the groin, and the cartoon... sweet mother of Christ, the cartoon is appalling. It takes a titanic dump over the idea of Trek with the vague excuse of 'ironic' humour, and the animation looks like the sort of thing you might have been able to get away with on a Saturday morning kids show circa 1995.

I'm not sure I really agree with >>21297714's classifying Trek as 'art deco' (I would say it's more late-atompunk futurism with minimalist aesthetics imposed by the low budget), but as someone who grew up on (early) TNG and TOS reruns I can't actually think of how to rebut anything he says. Trek's 'strange new worlds' are not really any different from Gundam Sneed re-running the One Year War between the alt-Federation and alt-Zeon yet again for the umpteenth time. Trek should either up it's game and give us something new, fresh, innovative, or have the decency to die quietly in the corner.
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>>21299503
It have nothing to with design age, it's about stopping to milk a franchise until the universe heat death without caring about creating something new and self-consistent.
You should know that with the example you've chosen. LoGH was all nice in its era and we will look at it as an OLD take on "real space battle" mixed with Napoleonic ranged battle, but if they didn't try to just reuse the franchise, we could have had those redesign used in much smarter and original way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfmr4dNpTTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhSLiEa_YEw

>>21299531
>>I'm not sure I really agree with >>21297714's classifying Trek as 'art deco' (I would say it's more late-atompunk futurism with minimalist aesthetics imposed by the low budget)
That's a constructive argument I actually agree with.
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>>21299531
TOS is excellent.
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>>21299511
Beautiful. I miss original Yamato.
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>>21299551
Might as well post more of those redesign
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>>21299531
>It takes a titanic dump over the idea of Trek with the vague excuse of 'ironic' humour,
At the beginning, yeah (first episode is godawful), and it's always exaggerated and cartoonish, but it really isn't an aggressive hate-filled 'deconstruction' like STD or Picard are.
Also Beyond was like halfway between the other Abrams' SW style and actual TOS/TNG movie style but I get the feeling nobody actually watched it and it gets lumped in with the other crap.
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>>21299551
>OLD OLD OLD!!! STOP WATCHING OLD THING!! ONLY WATCH NEW THING!!!

You're not a real human.
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>>21299575
>can't answer
>break down
Well at least you've dropped the mask.
I have more respect for old ORIGINAL design than you.
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>>21299581
I doubt you have enjoyed a single piece of media made before 2000.
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Have a classic
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It's really a fun design.
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>Space zeppelin
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>>21299551
>LoGH was all nice in its era and we will look at it as an OLD take on "real space battle" mixed with Napoleonic ranged battle,

Why is age the first thing that immediately springs to your mind and not the fact that the show was objectively a masterpiece of space opera? Does age trump quality in your world or what?
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>>21299612
I thought the Expanse only used ballistic weapons for the ships, are the purple ones beam weapons or railguns?
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>>21299611
Who say you aren't the one wearing nostalgia google?
LoGH is nice and all, but it's no longer a masterpiece (if it really was) and it aged a lot.
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>>21299626
>nostalgia google

and there it is
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Railgun
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>>21299626
>You can't enjoy any media made before my arbitrary definition of old or else you're a nostalgiafag

You are living parody.
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Zoomers have destroyed this board.
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>samefag brain being destroyed
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>>21299626
That ship is really a great take on a realistic space-police ship.
>grappler instead of oversized weapon in a place where debris are extremely dangerous
>plenty of space marines aboard to subdue civilian ships and terrorists
>engines look like they can be rotated in many direction to take over in case of damage
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>>21299647
A shame there's not a show made around it.
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>OH N-
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Lot of untapped potential in armed ship.
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I wish there was actual non-cover art of the main ship from the Destination: Void novels. Pretty early take on stylized gothic sci-fi ship design in literature, even though the series itself wasn't necessarily horror and more like an exploration of colonization, weird sex shit and religion.
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>>21299651
Speaking of Yamato QUALITY
Suffer JumpLight Odissey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HomEU2yJ8iw
some people might actually like it, but I can't get past the cheap disney animation and reusing most of the plot of Yamato
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>>21299659
>Destination: Void
The plot summary lost me.
You won't get gothic spaceship, but look for stuff made/adapted by Yukinobu Hoshino, you'll find weird mind experiment, AI awakening, and weird fusion of mythology with silver-age SF
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>>21299679
I just need more ships built around dangerous and critical generator
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>>21299667
I would have honestly been on board with this if it weren't a rougelike and that bizarrely out of place Stephen Universe looking mutt princess
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>>21299701
>favorite ship
I see you too is an appreciator of the mighty B-wing
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>>21299707
We need more space-fighter who aren't airfighter in space.
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>>21299659
Not directly gothic, but IIRC the Cygnus from The Black Hole was designed to evokee gothic cathedrals.
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>>21299712
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>>21299716
>organic ship
kinda rare
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>>21299715
>Hey, could you direct me to the nearest gas station?
>Just follow the arrow
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I don't know why but I really like the Lambda Shuttle
When flying it take all the room like it belong everywhere
When landed it's quite compact
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>>21299731
Just look at it, stealing the show to Darth voodoo or something
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>>21299722
>The comm center?
>every ships go to it
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>>21299719
Which book is this from anon? Pretty sure I have the other Star Wars cross-sections books but don't remember this version
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>>21299745
You simply can't understand
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>>21299750
Yeah, your retarded ESL ramblings are incomprehensible.

>>21299748
Actually fan-made.
https://www.deviantart.com/millenniumfalsehood/art/The-Incredible-Cross-Sections-Moldy-Crow-275526100
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>>21299755
Damn, something good on DA. Really had me fooled there.
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>>21299579
I have those books Animation Cell collection books. with all the CGI taking over (and not very good) you really cant make those books anymore.
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>>21299567
Never before in my life have I seen such a downgrade in terms of aesthetics.
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>>21301460
Meh, I'm disappointed by the shitty pewpewpewpew instead of the lasers but there's things to like in those redesign.
The propulsion look as exotic as it need to be to accomplish what ships do in the series.
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>>21301524
There are in some places, but to me all of the DNT designs do not look like a human being designed them. They'd be cool as an alien antagonist design, but as they are they really do not fit the Empire nor the FPA.
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>>21299781
>. with all the CGI taking over (and not very good) you really cant make those books anymore.
what a retarded statement
if anything, CG models make cutout diagrams far easier to produce
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>>21292477
>While spaceships are /m/, they are usually warships
Says fucking who?
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>>21292909
>but exploratory vessels like the Enterprise are absolutely not warships.
They are literally the ships they send to war. How are they not warships? Every Enterprise is armed to the tooth and is always the vessel the Federation sends to show their military power. The "Federation isn't a military" and the "Federation doesn't have warships" is just some weird Roddenberry cope he insisted on saying despite it not making any sense.
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>>21301561
I'm sick of the idea that human spaceship = ugly square "practical" shape.
The old LOGH design didn't match the level of finesse we would expect from future warship design, they were likely limited by how difficult it would have been to drawn more sophisticated shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2fbaouquis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5guMcZzHgSc

It's still a fucking shame their animators are lazy and couldn't portray the proper scale of space if their life depended on it.
Just look at this, I wish I could defend it but I just can't by association.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1t7TWtsYWg
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>>21301611
>They are literally the ships they send to war. How are they not warships?
They are exploratory ships that are armed for self-defense. The Federation's hope is peace, but if shit goes bad, they are ready.

A warship's sole purpose is battle. The two are completely separate.
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>>21301634
Yup. Plenty of merchant ships in the age of sail were quite well armed and sturdily built - hell, the Royal Navy ended up buying some off the East India Company - but that wasn't the point of them and they weren't built for that. The main effect of Starfleet not being a military, despite its structure, and the ships not being warships, despite their weapons, is to emphasize to the citizens of the Federation, other powers, Starfleet officers themselves, and especially the viewer that combat is not their purpose and they're not there to solve problems by shooting first and asking questions later, if at all.
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>>21301634
Their purpose is both. They are focused on exploration/diplomacy during peace but if war breaks you they are sent and meant for war. They were built for both means. The Ent-D was just as powerful as any other "warship" from the major powers in the Alpha/Beta quadrant. It's just semantics.
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>>21301572
t. mecha android III.
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>>21301628
As an ex-animator these are beautiful and no CGI.
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>>21301839
I meant the first vid. Once it goes CG I lose interest.
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>>21301839
>>21301843
No surprise, the first is when they cared to give it SOUL.
The second is them trying to milk LOGH and cater to ADHD kids who never saw a soul in the first place.
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>>21299781
The greatest modular space truck. Just change the cargo module and the Eagle's ready to go for another job.

>>21301751
As much as they might want to play it down they're in a dangerous galaxy even if it's not from hostile powers. There's enough freaky weird shit out there wandering around that being loaded is important.

Also Star Fleet really likes having their ships being Swiss Army Knives if they can.
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>>21299716

>killing giant insects to turn their dead bodies into spaceships

Who comes up with this horseshit?
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>>21292482
Wait what? The Gwadan's not 1200m it's a bit over 600 and the original Dogosse Giar's only like 420 some odd meters.
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>>21304157
The Nessies apparently.
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>>21299685
>2001 Nights
Mah niggah.
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>>21297041
Glad I picked this up before Eaglemoss went out of business.
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>>21297041
One thing Voyager never lacked was potential.



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